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The Epidemic
06-22-2007, 01:17 PM
Good guys don't die, at least young ones.
maybe in naruto...
snip.
your av is too good
SaiST
06-22-2007, 02:38 PM
So, I take back what I said earlier about Deidara. He wasn't punished for it, but he was stupid. After nearly blowing himself apart against Itachi in the flashback, you would think he'd know to avoid the Sharingan's Genjutsu. But this cat deliberately centered in on Sasuke's Sharingan twice in this fight.
It would be funny if Sasuke catches him with a Sharingan Genjutsu next week, and makes him use his C4 on himself.
The Epidemic
06-22-2007, 02:42 PM
^Saist, has sasuke ever used genjutsu as a form of attacking? idk it just seems he would've been using more genjutsu based attaks bc of his sharingan by now.
SaiST
06-22-2007, 02:51 PM
Tsukuyomi is the only Genjutsu we've seen thus far that can really hurt(kill) folks. Everything else is used to confuse, immobilize, or manipulate the actions of the opponent. Sasuke has shown us examples of the first two. Itachi gave us an example of the third on that woman to distract Jiraiya.
ViciousSLASH
06-22-2007, 02:55 PM
oh. i just realized that dei's finished. he took off his coat. he showed all three tongues. he had a flash back.
*sigh*
...why are these uchiha's so good? at least dei's going out like a g.
Sharigan is Japanese for Plot Hole.
That is why.
Doesn't anyone else think it's totally retarded that no one has shown up yet?
They all have Ninja Dogs with them, ninja dogs whose purpose was to hear loud things...
*sigh*
No Akatsuki member has yet to match Sasori's G'd out levels, that flashback confirms it.
And yeah, Coat taking off + flashback = bye bye Deidara. He is going to try to chousu nappa, I mean sasuke.
I just want Kishi to just run with the sharigan plothole thing. Let's just have characters randomly explode and then flash to a picture of sasuke, kakashi, or itachi sitting there with their eyes spinning.
Niksurugi
06-22-2007, 03:00 PM
I've been a Deidara fan ever since he owned Gaara...then faced multiple leaf ninja and lived to tell about it....with no arms. Alas, he has taken off the cloak...and had a flashback. All signs are pointing towards death.
...yeah
In other news...Itachi is a beast. Sasuke doesn't stand a chance right now.
BananaWeed
06-22-2007, 03:17 PM
Coat's off. gg.
gemdoom
06-22-2007, 03:38 PM
so when the raw come out do you guys read the chapter and go to the translation page. or read both of it at the same time?
4neqs
06-22-2007, 04:03 PM
scan online
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/
I'm gonna miss the Clay guy. *sniff*
SIMPLY_HUGO
06-22-2007, 04:42 PM
look into a mirror if you want to know the answer.
-Starhammer-
so they fight clones of themselves o.0
Chaotic Blue
06-22-2007, 07:42 PM
scan online
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/
I'm gonna miss the Clay guy. *sniff*
nice. but itachi is so broken. how do you beat that guy without knowing about sharingan. seriously?
Starhammer
06-22-2007, 08:16 PM
so they fight clones of themselves o.0
YUO IS A WINNAR!!!!!!!!!!!! :party:
well, just read ch359. yep, I think we're soon to be one akatsuki less. no jacket, frankenstien arms, and the infamous,"this is bad!" Phrase from tobi. That's three strikes already, but can Deidara dodge the bullet? Part of me says yes because if he created this jutsu, obviously he survived THAT time. the other 96% of me says he's gonna get ate up like his partner did. it's just meant to happen. how many of the legion of doom will be left if he goes? the boss, tobi, kisame, zetsu, and who else? They'll be holding group meetings in a skyline if this keeps up. Speaking of which, with all these s-rank criminals getting whacked, isn't SOMEONE getting rich off the bounties? if I was on the team that took out one of them, you best believe I'd be banging on Tsunade's door looking for my cash. :rofl: @ the Itachi beasting. too damn much for Dei.........
Kisame: you. Deidara. you're going to join the Akatsuki.
Dei: Hell naw!! I've got a real job!!
Sasori: Aw damn K-Dog!! You got served!
Kisame: Why this little...........!
Itachi: Stand back bitches. I'll handle this shit.
Kisame and Sasori: *break out the beer and peanuts and watch.*
Dei: What? You gonna take ME by yourself?
Itachi: yes. *stares at Deidara.................Hord.*
Dei: OW! .............My Brain!!!!
Itachi: Now. Come to the darkside.
Dei:..............Yes. Master.
Kisame: Pwnt. Now who got served BEEYOTCH!?
Sasori: *Finishes off the last beer Wolverine style.*
Itachi is just broken. Everybody knows this and it just keeps getting worse. Will little brother ever catch up to the beast that is Itachi? I kinda doubt it.
-Starhammer-
ReggieHadoken
06-22-2007, 08:24 PM
Good chapter this week. Anyone else under the impression that whenever Itachi or Saskue is around, nearly anyone else, no matter how good they are will end up looking like a scrub in their presents?
4neqs
06-22-2007, 08:57 PM
I hope next week's anime delivers (the clone fights). Hopefully they can kickstart Forehead and Grandma vs. Reverse-Pinocchio* as well.
I'm also following the Toonami dub, because I :lovin: the GILF and her backstory. :looney:
---
*I realize this is the proper terminology, as he was a real boy that became a puppet.
Wellman
06-22-2007, 09:25 PM
I honestly think they are just building up Sasuke, so that he falls hard when someone, either Itachi or AL beats him and calls him a bitch.
His entire squad is living o borrowed time except maybe the water boy.
so...zetsu, tobi, the AL, the blue haired girl(?), itachi and kisame are left. the question is, are we going to see new ppl be recruited or is akatsuki gonna get phased out one by one?
will tobi ever actually FIGHT? his partner is gone after the next chapter. then what? zetsu looks like a loner. the AL and the blue haired girl haven't been shown. obviously kisame and itachi will show up soon. i'unno just some random thoughts in my head. i feel sorry for deidara. shit just isn't right. =/
how many tailed beasts are left? how the fk are they going to extract naruto's bijuu without all 9 members of akatsuki? not that i ever thought that they would, but yeah. how powerful is the AL to not feel threatened by any member of akatsuki?
D'Nyc3
06-22-2007, 11:31 PM
Lol @ Av ^
SaiST
06-23-2007, 12:39 AM
I really don't think there's much of a gap between Sasuke and Itachi right now. He can counter all of Itachi's Genjutsu with the Sharingan(possibly Tsukuyomi as well, as it's been implied that a normal Sharingan can dispell it), and I doubt he's lacking in jutsu speed either. Once they move past the inevitable staring contest, I'm expecting to see a nice exchange of Ninjutsu and Taijutsu.
Once stuff like Amaterasu comes out though...
how many tailed beasts are left?
Only two, including Naruto's, if I remember correctly. Won't be much longer before Akatsuki's efforts are all centered on Naruto.
The Akatsuki leader seems to always have some membership candidates on hold in case one of 'em dies off. Tobi replaced Sasori's spot instantly, Hidan joined not too long before, and I gather that Deidara was recruited not too long after Itachi scared off Orochimaru.
If that's not the case, then I still don't think the ritual will be held off, it'll just take longer.
TheDarkPhoenix
06-23-2007, 05:39 AM
I really don't think there's much of a gap between Sasuke and Itachi right now. He can counter all of Itachi's Genjutsu with the Sharingan(possibly Tsukuyomi as well, as it's been implied that a normal Sharingan can dispell it), and I doubt he's lacking in jutsu speed either. Once they move past the inevitable staring contest, I'm expecting to see a nice exchange of Ninjutsu and Taijutsu.
Once stuff like Amaterasu comes out though...
Only two, including Naruto's, if I remember correctly. Won't be much longer before Akatsuki's efforts are all centered on Naruto.
The Akatsuki leader seems to always have some membership candidates on hold in case one of 'em dies off. Tobi replaced Sasori's spot instantly, Hidan joined not too long before, and I gather that Deidara was recruited not too long after Itachi scared off Orochimaru.
If that's not the case, then I still don't think the ritual will be held off, it'll just take longer.
good point, I wonder if there is like a randomly beastly recruit in the back ground just waiting...
catchafire
06-23-2007, 06:02 AM
AL has his resume list on file. Boss don't play.
Dj-DarK
06-23-2007, 07:45 AM
He can counter all of Itachi's Genjutsu with the Sharingan(possibly Tsukuyomi as well, as it's been implied that a normal Sharingan can dispell it)
I thought itachi said with the normal sharingan you can resist it a little but nothing about being able to dispell it.
catchafire
06-23-2007, 09:07 AM
The series should have been called "Sharingan."
AlphaDragoon02
06-23-2007, 09:32 AM
The series should have been called "Itachi uses hax."
Fixed. Sasuke's been doing some beastly stuff recently but now we see YET AGAIN that Itachi is THE baddest mofo in Naruto, at least out of anybody they've ever shown fight.
catchafire
06-23-2007, 09:58 AM
How can someone get into Akatsuki (dei dei) w/out even knowing about the sharingan? Damn, getting into Akatsuki is easier than getting into Anbu.
Rodimus
06-23-2007, 10:45 AM
Jees, now that i've read the translation Itachi=unstoppable.
If it aint 30% clones its a genjutsu kagebunshin--i dont even know. Its like the manga is really called "Itachi" and sasuke and Naruto only star in a few episodes.
Itachi is like sting in wcw in 97. dont really talk, chill in the shadows--shows up to son a group of peeps, then takes the title home.
Its crazy, now it looks like Deidara is gonna pull a vegeta vs Buu--but we know that outcome and this one.
On the real other nins should be there by now. It'll prolly be some non-sense like--oh shit what was that explosion?!!--
Not knowing it was Deidara's wake starting. "Ashes to Ashes" but i thought Deidara was wrapped up b4 when my dog Kakashi had to X-zone c4 outta there b4.
I was very pleased with this chapter.
Oh b4 i post..how is it that every flashback with itachi shows Itachi completely owning that person's flashback...lol. Its like in his contract...
Um Itachi we need you to job to Orochimaru in this flashback..
Itachi: Not happening-- i have a *not getting sonned clause*
Ok--how about You completely own Orochimaru in his Flashback?
ItachI: Now u'r talking!!
be'z
donaldducktm
06-23-2007, 11:09 AM
Damn Naruto anime needs to step it up a notch.
catchafire
06-23-2007, 11:16 AM
Aint that the truth. I just watched the latest episode and think that they are delaying the progression on purpose. They wasted a lot of time when having Gai moan and grunt.
SIMPLY_HUGO
06-23-2007, 11:34 AM
Naruto will kill itachi ^_^ just to piss everyone off
they also wasted a bunch of time by having the characters look at each other and shit. wtf is going on...do they need to slow it down THAT much? at this rate the anime won't really be worth watching because everything will be way too stretched out. you'd have to watch about 5 episodes for every one chapter in the manga.
*truth*
and you're absolutely right about the other members of hebi. where are they? i mean...are they just watching dei job to sasuke? is tobi sitting with them eating some crumpets with sake? where is team 7 + 8? kisame and itachi?
SIMPLY_HUGO
06-23-2007, 07:34 PM
Its not that the episode was that bad guys. Its the fact we had to wait 14 days for it -.-. I thought it was gonna be an hour special episode..but hell no...22minutes of HMMM!!! hmmm!!! And im a guy fan!
Anyways who does the subtitles
Zachman
06-23-2007, 07:36 PM
Naruto will kill itachi ^_^ just to piss everyone off
I've already said this a number of times. :cool::cool:
The Epidemic
06-23-2007, 07:44 PM
Anyways who does the subtitles
DB...
and you're absolutely right about the other members of hebi. where are they? i mean...are they just watching dei job to sasuke? is tobi sitting with them eating some crumpets with sake? where is team 7 + 8? kisame and itachi?
I wouldn't be suprised if they changed focus to the other people now. It's the climax of the battle, with Dei using probably his strongest attack. Perfect time to piss people off and switch to something else to leave us in suspense.
4neqs
06-23-2007, 10:12 PM
Just thought I'd share. Since YouTube's on a crackdown, here's a spot that I found that has all the Shippuden episodes thus far.
http://www.broadcaster.com/video/search.php?userid=519&start=0
Bunch of other stuff too, search around at that account.
Azrael
06-24-2007, 03:53 AM
they also wasted a bunch of time by having the characters look at each other and shit. wtf is going on...do they need to slow it down THAT much? at this rate the anime won't really be worth watching because everything will be way too stretched out. you'd have to watch about 5 episodes for every one chapter in the manga.
I think they're trying to avoid another "One Year Filler War" thing. Which is a good thing IMHO, despite the episodes moving at a snail's pace.
I feel like I'm only watching/reading out of deference at this point.
TheDarkPhoenix
06-24-2007, 11:54 AM
I prefer it this way, instead of completely fake and made up filler...
i just think its dragging too slow...its not enjoyable. like even if you were to download all the episodes in batches (like 1-20) its still not as enjoyable as the OG naruto episodes...i dunno how to explain it but i just think its too diluted. its ok to drag it out a lil bit but don't OD. who wants to see 5 episodes of ppl standing around grunting and staring at each other...with 10 min flashbacks?
ruthless_nash
06-24-2007, 12:33 PM
i wouldnt mind if they didnt slow it down and then we had a 6 months of filler. i actually quite enjoyed it as at least you got to see other characters, like hinata, choji etc etc on a regular basis.
Markudea
06-24-2007, 02:15 PM
Recently, the Shippuden episodes has been very interesting to me. I didn't mind the Matsuri girl from the filler in Shippuden at all since it was relavant and I'm glad that the comical side of the anime is creeping back in a little (i.e. episode 18). The manga's getting very interesting (I can't wait until this week's chapter)... something bad is going to happen to either Deidara or Sasuke...
TheRedCyclone
06-27-2007, 07:37 PM
interesting insight into the origin of Dei Dei's character.
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=86631
the new spoiler pic has interesting possiblilites...
AlphaDragoon02
06-27-2007, 09:28 PM
Spoiler pics courtesy of Conan=Edogawa on the NF forums:
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=236356
- Sasuke gets attacked by a bigass C4 creation. (Maybe a giant Deidara, from one of the pics?)
- Sasuke appears to be getting owned (read: disintegrated) but it's all a Genjutsu.
- CS2 Sasuke (with regrown wing) gets on top of the C4 creature, and shanks Deidara with a Chidori.
- ...Turns out it's a bunshin. Real Deidara busts up underneath the C4 monster and grabs Sasuke.
AlphaDragoon02
06-28-2007, 02:23 PM
Damn, Deidara's got nano-machine sized fucking bombs. You BREATHE and get blown up. Dude's actually making Sasuke work for the win, which instantly puts him in top tier of Akatsuki shown thus far.
ViciousSLASH
06-28-2007, 03:06 PM
Damn, Deidara's got nano-machine sized fucking bombs. You BREATHE and get blown up. Dude's actually making Sasuke work for the win, which instantly puts him in top tier of Akatsuki shown thus far.
Sasuke makes it seem like he's getting blown up through genjutsu, then he kills the giant deidara, stabs the "real" deidara who is actually a bushin, and is caught. Then a giant bomb goes off and Water Shark Teeth Face has to save him. Deidara allegedly is far away when that happens as he has exhausted all of his chakra.
If this is the real spoiler, that is fucking great. Adding to the greatness, Dei PUTS HIS COAT BACK ON. He is officially the coolest character in Naruto if this is real.
catchafire
06-28-2007, 03:58 PM
THAT would be bad ass if he puts the coat BACK ON!!! Holy shit! lol.
4neqs
06-28-2007, 05:08 PM
No anime this week (I just got back from www.leafninja.com) but man the manga spoilers sound so kickass.
catchafire
06-28-2007, 06:28 PM
Man, they are REALLY dragging their foot with the anime. One episode in three weeks?!?!
THAT would be bad ass if he puts the coat BACK ON!!! Holy shit! lol.
hallelujah jesus if its true.
Tone!
06-28-2007, 09:24 PM
Here's hoping he puts the coat back on and gets the fuck out of there.. I was really thinking he'd get offed by Sasuke, but if he makes it through this, fuck yeah.
Somethings telling me Kishi is really reluctant to kill such a fan favorite off..
Starhammer
06-29-2007, 01:00 AM
No anime this week (I just got back from www.leafninja.com) but man the manga spoilers sound so kickass.
y'know, this is starting to make me think of what it would be like to be a guest on Jerry Springer. you're waiting in the back and you KNOW you're in for a fucked up situation, but you've gotta wait for God knows how long. We all know Sasori is gonna get screwed over so let's just get it over with already!!!!! I don't care if the anime catches up and overruns the manga anymore, let the damn manga play catch up!! just please get past this ineveitable train wreck with bomb assist so that we can get to the better stuff. hopefully that chapter will be ready to go when I get home as I'm in need of something worth reading.
-Starhammer-
SaiST
06-29-2007, 01:29 AM
I thought itachi said with the normal sharingan you can resist it a little but nothing about being able to dispell it.
But then he says before the Tsukuyomi that only another Sharingan user with the same blood flowing in him could possibly get the job done. Tsukuyomi's Databook entry also states that Sharingan can dispell it, not Mangekyou Sharingan specifically.
UnCauzi
06-29-2007, 02:16 AM
What would be b a badass is if Deidara put his coat back on then got shanked right after.
Rick Fn Stalvey
06-29-2007, 04:47 AM
What would be b a badass is if Deidara put his coat back on then got shanked right after.
Gansta!!!
catchafire
06-29-2007, 05:38 AM
Damn, I wonder how this loss will affect Sasuke. If he can't beat DeiDei, then i'm sure he's going to reconsider his immediate fight with Itachi. I'm wondering if he'll be in a hurry to kill his best friend now in order to get Mango. I'm also wondering how exactly will the plot progress from now.
I'm still hoping that DeiDei gets offed by Gaara. :party:
well i was hoping that sasuke wouldn't be able to handle two (cuz lets face it, tobi hasn't played much of a part in this fight. he's been on the sidelines) akatsuki members at one time...he has a team for a reason. if kakashi, naruto, etc. couldn't handle one akatsuki member (one on one) then i don't think sasuke should be able to either.
i see dei either fleeing, fighting some more and then team snake gets into it, or almost killing sasuke and itachi getting into it. i dunno, though. where's naruto? where's itachi and kisame? is tobi going to chill forever??
catchafire
06-29-2007, 08:42 AM
http://rapidshare.com/files/40059767/Naruto_360_RAW.zip
hell yeah. deidara is a g. that epic fight i've been asking for since the hokage fight...it finally happened, hehe. hell yeah.
Tone!
06-29-2007, 09:39 AM
I love how Sasuke went into this thinking it was gonna be simple, and then ends up getting pushed to his limits. Great stuff.
I still hope Dei gets out of there alive.. where the hell is Tobi, though?
catchafire
06-29-2007, 09:47 AM
Translation from Unapimper, over @ NF:
Translated from Chinese:
P.1
Sasuke: !
Tobi: Gotta hurry!!
Deidara: (Oh well, this jutsu was meant to kill Itachi after all.... hm!)
Sasuke: (Even this is a bomb? If so...)
P.2
Side text: A GIANT DEIDARA APPEARED... THIS IS C4!!
Sasuke: That's huuuge... if this thing explodes.....
P.3
Deidara: Oh come on, don't just run like that!
Deidara: You really think you can run away from Garuda like that!?
P.4
*POOOF*
P.5
Sasuke: !?
Sasuke: (...no explosion...?)
P.6
Deidara: Victory is mine!!
Deidara: Art is explosion!! (Art is a bang!!)
Deidara: KAAATSU
P.7
Deidara: VANISH! (literal translation: "Elation!"?)
P.8
Sasuke: Damn...
Sasuke: How is this happening...could it be...??
P.9
shhhhooooo~~~
P.10
Deidara: Hmm!!
Deidara: Hmm! Hmm! Hmm! This, is a MASTERPIECE!!
Tobi: Tiny bombs on the microscopic level... C4 Garuda...
Tobi: These invisible bombs scatter into the air as the giant Deidara explodes...
Tobi: All lifeforms that breathes in these bombs will have them through-out their bodies.
P.11
Tobi: ...and when they explode, they destroy their bodies from the inside-out.
Tob: What a terrifying jutsu...
Deidara: I guess I must thank Itachi for this, kukuku...
Deidara: Kukuku.... I win! I win! My art wins!!
P.12
Deidara: !!
----sharingan'd----
P.13
----skewered----
P.14
Sasuke: Looks like you used up all your chakra... even your movements are now slow.
Deidara: These eyes.... ku....
Sasuke: Bombs invisible to the naked eye... but my sharingan can see the color of chakra..
Sasuke: The tiny bombs that are filled with your chakra, I can clearly see them in the air in the shape of a big cloud of colored smoke.
Sasuke: Where you are staying in the air is just outside of the range of where that smoke can reach... and from that I could already tell what kind of attack would hit me, so avoiding it would be easy as well.
P.15
Deidara: Ugh....
Deidara: You.... so what I saw back then of you dying from C4 was....
Sasuke: yes, ...my genjutsu!
Deidara: Ugh.... kuku... I see... so that's how it is....
Sasuke: I didn't hit your vital point on purpose, now tell me Itachi's whereabouts!
Deidara: Like I said before... I must thank Itachi for this...
Sasuke: ?
P.16
Sasuke: !?
Sasuke: A clay... bunshin!?
Deidara: Your genjutsu... I've already experienced it before... long long time ago. It's just like Itachi's! I won't fall for the same trick twice! Hm!
P.17
Deidara: (Ever since that day I fought Itachi, I have trained my left eye to counter the sharingan!)
Deidara: (I've trained hard on how to slowly dissipate its genjutsu!)
Deidara: Now this is finally it!! Eat my C4 now!!
Sasuke: Kuu...
catchafire
06-29-2007, 09:54 AM
How the hell do you train your eye to counter the sharingan?
Tekno Virus
06-29-2007, 10:10 AM
sooooo what's Tobi doing again?
playing uno with suigetsu and the rest of team snake...teams 7 and 8 are taking a nap.
noodleman
06-29-2007, 10:33 AM
dei is fucking badass...this chapter is all kinds of awesome.
Thongboy Bebop
06-29-2007, 10:37 AM
Deidara is slowly, begrudgingly shaping up to be on par with my unabashed favourite, Sasori. Artsy team for the win!
N
Chaotic Blue
06-29-2007, 11:11 AM
wow, great chapter. how unexpected.
Tone!
06-29-2007, 11:15 AM
dear god
Deidara is top tier fucking awesome level infinite
Being able to counter the sharingan... wow.
Havoc
06-29-2007, 12:18 PM
Deidara is beasting.
I never understood why Sasori got so much love though. What did he ever do? He beat Kankouro... in a bad match-up? Wow.
BananaWeed
06-29-2007, 12:43 PM
I thought deidara just used a clay clone so that Sasuke would use the M-Sharingan on that (kinda like how kakashi used a bunshin on itachi), but deidara said that he trained one eye to resist the sharingan. =\
catchafire
06-29-2007, 12:55 PM
He trained his LEFT eye, to counter the sharingan!!! Not both eyes, ONE DAMN EYE!
AlphaDragoon02
06-29-2007, 01:05 PM
Deidara is a badass motherfucker...Sasuke's actually gonna have to work for this win.
Sasuke's gonna make a comeback, by the way they didn't show him get owned right then. But still it actually makes the fight look fair and gimps Sasuke's former Kira Yamato status.
catchafire
06-29-2007, 01:10 PM
I honestly think that Naruto would have done better than Sasuke in a 1v1 versus Deidara...
Pimp Willy
06-29-2007, 01:13 PM
Why on earth would he train one eye to counter the sharingan... unless he planned on taking down Itachi at some point?
SIMPLY_HUGO
06-29-2007, 01:17 PM
yay i have to wait 14 days for a not so great episode again!!
AlphaDragoon02
06-29-2007, 01:18 PM
yay i have to wait 14 days for a not so great episode again!!
Or read the manga and have instant gratification now. :bgrin:
EDIT: Regarding Naruto vs. Deidara, he'd have different strengths and weaknesses against Dei. For example, he wouldn't have been able to see the C4 coming and would get disintegrated if in the same situation Sasuke was in (who was saved thanks to Sharingan). However, Naruto probably would have had a clone up there in the first place, meaning a poof and more combat experience to find a way around it.
Or alternatively he could've figured out Dei's basic attack plan at the onset of the fight (before he had a chance to unleash the dragon OR the C4) and went for the FRS which would've ended the fight right then.
ViciousSLASH
06-29-2007, 01:31 PM
God I hope Deidara gets away somehow.
Next week is probably going to be massively disappointing.
Sasuke's OH SHIT face is pretty top tier though.
Artsy Team FTW.
Adam Warlock
06-29-2007, 01:47 PM
lol@ niggas getting happy. My nigga Sasuke is still coming with the rape.
Tone!
06-29-2007, 01:51 PM
Why on earth would he train one eye to counter the sharingan... unless he planned on taking down Itachi at some point?
Deidara: (Oh well, this jutsu was meant to kill Itachi after all.... hm!)
yep.. pretty much revenge for the past.
TheRedCyclone
06-29-2007, 04:15 PM
Holy Crap @ sharingan counter. i guess it's no AS broken as we once thought.
UnCauzi
06-29-2007, 06:01 PM
Don't worry Sasuke will win. (If he doesn't hats off to Kishi)
On why people like Sasori, it's just like how people like any other character.
Now if you are the type of person who always plays like Sentinel/Storm/Magneto/Cable in
MvC2 I guess you can't understand.
Sasoris design and attitude is what I liked, sure what he did was all neat backstory, but
the tude I dug a lot. Not going to get into the what ifs blah blah blah, how come
omg he lost to granny nonsense. Sasori is my dog. Right up there with the Zabza.
Anubis
06-29-2007, 06:10 PM
I just started watching "Naruto" a few months ago on CN. I have to admit that its top tier!
catchafire
06-29-2007, 07:03 PM
Anubis, just be careful of the filler!!! There is plenty of it.
ReggieHadoken
06-29-2007, 07:38 PM
Anubis, just be careful of the filler!!! There is plenty of it.
That's something I've been wondering about. After Tsunade goes back to Konoha, I hear there are some filler eps. I also know there's a lot of filler after Naruto fails to bring back Sasuke. I don't mind filler as long as its good filler. However, from what I've heard, a lot of Naruto filler is just plain bad. I don't know if I can put up with 80+ eps of Naruto filler!! Though I am looking forward to the Naruto/Hinata moments.
AlphaDragoon02
06-29-2007, 09:00 PM
That's something I've been wondering about. After Tsunade goes back to Konoha, I hear there are some filler eps. I also know there's a lot of filler after Naruto fails to bring back Sasuke. I don't mind filler as long as its good filler. However, from what I've heard, a lot of Naruto filler is just plain bad. I don't know if I can put up with 80+ eps of Naruto filler!! Though I am looking forward to the Naruto/Hinata moments.
Or...skip that fake-ass shit and read the manga. K? K. :rofl:
ReggieHadoken
06-29-2007, 09:35 PM
Or...skip that fake-ass shit and read the manga. K? K. :rofl:
Heh, been doing that since 2003. :cool:
ChibiT89
06-30-2007, 08:45 AM
is the new manga out yet?
4neqs
06-30-2007, 08:56 AM
It is.
www.onemanga.com
ReggieHadoken
06-30-2007, 09:31 AM
Good chapter. Nice to see Ded trained one of his eyes to counter the Sharingan. As broken as that thing is, I've always had a feeling there had to be some way around it. Of course we all know Saskue isn't gonna get offed by Ded. Saskue will probably give that "My eyes own all speech" and then peace out Ded. Or something like that.
4neqs
06-30-2007, 09:37 AM
Nanobot bombs are awesome
catchafire
06-30-2007, 10:01 AM
Is it just me, but Deidara seems more masculine than when he was introduced? I don't see him as being a female compared to his earlier chapters.
Also, when you compare Sasuke to Naruto, Kishi tends to draw Sasuke with more masculine features compared to Naruto's boyish looks. Sasuke has a firm jaw line, that hints that he's at least in his late teens. When you look at Naruto, he still has a lot of baby fat in his face. Poor Naruto.
ChibiT89
06-30-2007, 10:14 AM
It is.
www.onemanga.com
thank you, rep if i could
also, how can one train an eye to defeat sharingan? i'm curious for the explanation. also, i like how the chars in Naruto explain their attack while attacking, i mean, being a ninja you always gotta reveal your secrets.
Green
06-30-2007, 10:23 AM
Training an eye to counter Sharingan is just a stupid plot device. Kishimoto had better come up with a good explanation.
PsychoSquall
06-30-2007, 10:28 AM
Yeah, it always cracked me up how everything during a fight is explained out loud or internally in Shounen anime. Very unrealistic, but it's part of it's charm. To make the fights more intellectually interesting. Kenshin especially.
MechZZ
06-30-2007, 10:31 AM
Why wasn't Sasuke's sharingan able to see that it was a bunshin?
Markudea
06-30-2007, 10:40 AM
Training an eye to counter Sharingan is just a stupid plot device. Kishimoto had better come up with a good explanation.
Tell me about it... I just got through reading the chapter. How can a normal eye just see through the Sharingan's Genjutsu by simply training it? To make it worst, Deidara squared off against Itachi once and retained all that information on the Sharingan's Genjutsu properties (that's nonsense). Despite this surprise, I'm sure that Sasuke can still deal with Deidara.
I really don't get the surprise, I thought there was pretty much an agreement that all previously established naruto canon is not so well established after the Kakashi Mango came into play.
AlphaDragoon02
06-30-2007, 10:54 AM
Methinks Naruto needs to learn whatever method Dei used to see through Genjutsu with a normal eye. That would help him out a lot.
Tekno Virus
06-30-2007, 11:08 AM
Why wasn't Sasuke's sharingan able to see that it was a bunshin?Not even the byakugan ability cannot distinguish between a kage-bunshin and a illusionary bunshin. It must be the same with a clay-bunshin.
TheDarkPhoenix
06-30-2007, 11:28 AM
Training an eye to counter Sharingan is just a stupid plot device. Kishimoto had better come up with a good explanation.
Its not really that stupid, there has been a counter to everything else just about. And just like people train to counter other things i don't see why its such a big deal that the shiringan can be countered. At 1st i thought it was random but that only because unlike everything else in naruto there seemed to be no countering the shiringan up until this point.
But it really isn't that stupid, all your fave villain ninja have all countered something that you would think they shouldn't be able too.
MAGUS1234
06-30-2007, 11:41 AM
^^srsly. When death can be counterd(garaa + old puppet lady)I think anything is fair game...:/
The Epidemic
06-30-2007, 11:47 AM
^^srsly. When death can be counterd(garaa + old puppet lady)I think anything is fair game...:/
couldnt have said it better....and besides its not like he countered the mango
Rodimus
06-30-2007, 12:02 PM
Another solid chapter!!
I just love Deidara's attitude, like yep i saved this move for itachi but here ya go Sasuke, that ass is mine.
361 wont be a let down, what will happen is another oh shit sasuke is broken moment. The oh shit face can only lead to the end of deidara. Unless Deidara is not there and both are bunshins.
Anyway very very entertaining.
dn3000
06-30-2007, 12:13 PM
one thing that gets me is that how and when did dei have the chances to learn the eye block jutsu?? its not he had itachis co-operation or anything... maybe he stalked him ...
TheDarkPhoenix
06-30-2007, 12:15 PM
^^ maybe he practiced with tobi
ahhhh!
Bowza
06-30-2007, 12:17 PM
I don't see the point in trying to LOGICALLY explain how a man with mouths on his hands stopped a magical eye from using illusions on him. He just did.
Pimp Willy
06-30-2007, 05:46 PM
Im going with the "practice with tobi/obito" theory
catchafire
06-30-2007, 05:48 PM
I don't see the point in trying to LOGICALLY explain how a man with mouths on his hands stopped a magical eye from using illusions on him. He just did.
Man, I totally agree with you on this one. We need to learn to just enjoy it as is, w/out trying to logically prove anything...
MAGUS1234
06-30-2007, 06:04 PM
^^^im with you guys, unless its a shikimaru battle im not [I]too[I] concderned about the details of powers, hell we dont even know if he actually countered it yet...?
Rhio2k
06-30-2007, 06:32 PM
What does Tsunade really look like? Has that ever been shown? Still got teh boobs?
AlphaDragoon02
06-30-2007, 06:43 PM
What does Tsunade really look like? Has that ever been shown? Still got teh boobs?
Nope, they've never shown her at her actual age (except for a really brief mouth-to-nose view when she was nearly depleted of chakra, IIRC). Basically, she has to be REALLY close to death and out of chakra in order for the anti-aging thing to deactivate.
Pimp Willy
06-30-2007, 07:07 PM
Didnt her large boobs protect her from Kabuto? If so, they gotta be real.
AlphaDragoon02
06-30-2007, 07:12 PM
Didnt her large boobs protect her from Kabuto? If so, they gotta be real.
Yeah, they did. He couldn't pierce her heart because her breasts were so large they took a good brunt of the chakra scalpel, like a bullet-proof vest. :rofl:
I don't think Tsunade's rack is fake, it would fit the humor of Jiraiya dissing her for being "flat" when they were kids if she filled out spectacularly.
Starhammer
06-30-2007, 07:35 PM
sooooo what's Tobi doing again?
Oh yes!! she's back!! :party: The queen is swinging again!!! :party:
-Starhammer-
AlphaDragoon02
06-30-2007, 10:11 PM
Oh yes!! she's back!! :party: The queen is swinging again!!! :party:
-Starhammer-
...Whatchu talkin' bout, Willis?
Starhammer
06-30-2007, 10:25 PM
...Whatchu talkin' bout, Willis?
Look at Tekno virus' av. the queen is back with "that" jutsu intact. :china:
I just read the last chapter. Damn!! is Dei dei gonna pull off an upset on debo? Next chapter is gonna win no matter what. I'm like the rest of you though. what's this buisness about training your eye to see past the sharingan? :wtf: not that I wouldn't like to see SOME weakness in the sharingan, but this sounds a bit far-fetched. maybe next week will shed some light on what he meant by that. and hopefully, the other teams will get their asses back on the pages too.
-Starhammer-
UnCauzi
06-30-2007, 10:32 PM
Hehe yah folks don't put to much thought into it. I remember when I used to glance at Narutofan and people tried to explain how Sasori's chest plug works. As if Kishi actually knows how to make himself into a chest plug.
There's gotta be a logical explanation!
Power Man Fox
07-01-2007, 01:52 AM
Dee's attack reminds me of
http://youtube.com/watch?v=l55IDmQtBKc
Tootall
07-01-2007, 01:55 AM
this may of been asked but i'm not feelin' looking back right now..
can't the sharingan tell which is a bunshin, and which is the real? if so, why couldn't sasuke tell that dei's clone was there and not him. plot hole, or am i just reading way too much into it, and should just stay tuned, same bat time, same bat channel?
TheIlluminati
07-01-2007, 02:22 AM
Where are you guys picking up your Naruto wallpapers?
Thanks.
4neqs
07-01-2007, 04:36 AM
Yeah, they did. He couldn't pierce her heart because her breasts were so large they took a good brunt of the chakra scalpel, like a bullet-proof vest. :rofl:
Ah, memories. I think I posted about that all the way back in the 3.0 thread, when I started reading the manga. Good times. Speaking of young Tsunade, I stumbled upon this cute oekaki.
http://pics.livejournal.com/photon_shermie/pic/0001qt1h/
@Rhio
Yes.
Toonami/CN Tsunade
http://pics.livejournal.com/photon_shermie/pic/0001hsa3/g39
http://pics.livejournal.com/photon_shermie/pic/0001k87g/g39
Current anime (Shippuden) Tsunade
http://pics.livejournal.com/photon_shermie/pic/00018dga/g31
Man they're huge. :party:
Tekno Virus
07-01-2007, 06:26 AM
can't the sharingan tell which is a bunshin, and which is the real? if so, why couldn't sasuke tell that dei's clone was there and not him. plot holeNope, remember when Naruto fought Neji? Neji couldn't tell, with his byakugan, Naruto from his clones. Same thing with the sharingan and clay-bunshins.
Rhio2k
07-01-2007, 06:38 AM
Ah, memories. I think I posted about that all the way back in the 3.0 thread, when I started reading the manga. Good times. Speaking of young Tsunade, I stumbled upon this cute oekaki.
http://pics.livejournal.com/photon_shermie/pic/0001qt1h/
@Rhio
Yes.
Toonami/CN Tsunade
http://pics.livejournal.com/photon_shermie/pic/0001hsa3/g39
http://pics.livejournal.com/photon_shermie/pic/0001k87g/g39
Current anime (Shippuden) Tsunade
http://pics.livejournal.com/photon_shermie/pic/00018dga/g31
Man they're huge. :party:
*sigh* Teh booooOOooooobies...*drool* I wonder if Konohamaru realizes how lucky he was...
SaiST
07-01-2007, 06:41 AM
Neither the Sharingan or Byakugan can tell the difference between physical Bunshin(Kage Bunshin, Mizu Bunshin, Moku Bunshin, Clay Bunshin, etc) and the real thing, unless there is a difference in chakra amount, or activity.
And I'm not sure if I mentioned it earlier in this thread, but I believe all the physical Bunshin above produce the exact same results. The only conflicting evidence is what Haku said about Zabuza's Mizu Bunshin in the Water Country arc(the Bunshin having 1/8 the strength of the original), but it's possible that this was only due to the amount of chakra Zabuza used for the technique, and not a general thing(don't believe it was mentioned in the technique's Databook entry). And I believe Mizu Bunshin has a lower difficulty rating than Kage Bunshin due to the fact that it uses water as a medium, while Kage Bunshin are made from pure chakra; the cost of chakra is likely higher.
Concerning Deidara's anti-Sharingan plan: I took it as a development on the C-Rank "Kai", made especially to counter the Sharingan's Genjutsu, which is apparently not at all easy to dispell. Genjutsu is carried out by manipulating the opponent's flow of chakra through attacking one or more of their senses. As all Sharingan Genjutsu is carried out through eye contact, I'm assuming this was made to be particularly effective against the Sharingan's Genjutsu.
UnCauzi
07-01-2007, 08:52 AM
^^^
Duh.
Starhammer
07-01-2007, 09:32 AM
Snipped from above
Actually, he just had a bionic eye installed.
-Starhammer-
AlphaDragoon02
07-01-2007, 09:36 AM
Actually, he just had a bionic eye installed.
-Starhammer-
Actually, it wasn't installed, it's like a scouter *ducks rotting fruit for the DBZ reference* and can be taken off. If you look at Deidara when he counters Sasuke's Genjutsu he has both eyes.
Pimp Willy
07-01-2007, 11:32 AM
Maybe he took Obitos other eye ; P
Monarc G.
07-01-2007, 02:36 PM
What are toby's ability?...he seems to be a total idiot.
Starhammer
07-01-2007, 02:39 PM
Actually, it wasn't installed, it's like a scouter *ducks rotting fruit for the DBZ reference* and can be taken off. If you look at Deidara when he counters Sasuke's Genjutsu he has both eyes. LOL. I was mostly making a joke because the bionic eye counter is often used to get over on any type of illusion or hypnotism attack. It's a good thing he didn't have the scouter on though. It probably would've blown up at 9000. *hides behind AlphaDragoon to avoid the fruit.*
..........Must they always use rotten fruit? I gots to eat!!
-Starhammer-
PsychoSquall
07-01-2007, 04:32 PM
Zabuza sword cannot be beat! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZFoCjM57wxs)
TheRock-BoS
07-01-2007, 04:37 PM
Zabuza sword cannot be beat! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZFoCjM57wxs)
lol, accidents waiting to happen.
4neqs
07-01-2007, 04:47 PM
Zabuza sword cannot be beat! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZFoCjM57wxs)
Obviously, they felt the sword wasn't selling enough.
http://www.lurkmore.com/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Zabuzasword.jpg
Suigetsu = clever marketing tactic
ReggieHadoken
07-01-2007, 05:41 PM
Obviously, they felt the sword wasn't selling enough.
http://www.lurkmore.com/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Zabuzasword.jpg
Suigetsu = clever marketing tactic
HA HA HA HA HA!!!! Oh man! I always felt the commercial for those toys were so gay. That fixed scan was priceless. :rofl::rofl::rofl:
R.P.D rookie
07-01-2007, 09:53 PM
Yeah, it always cracked me up how everything during a fight is explained out loud or internally in Shounen anime. Very unrealistic, but it's part of it's charm. To make the fights more intellectually interesting. Kenshin especially.
With Kenshin because he never killed his opponents, after the fight he would explain to them why they lost. Yeah, I know during the fights there was still constant internal discussion about moves.
AlphaDragoon02
07-01-2007, 10:01 PM
With Kenshin because he never killed his opponents, after the fight he would explain to them why they lost. Yeah, I know during the fights there was still constant internal discussion about moves.
See, that's why OAV Kenshin is superior; he DOES kill and DOESN'T tell them why OR how. :rofl:
And he had Tomoe, who was so superior and far above Kaoru she had to commute from the moon.
Robust
07-02-2007, 02:25 AM
What are toby's ability?...he seems to be a total idiot.
he sucks the enemies dick, then when they have their guard down, his partner kills them.
Hunter D
07-02-2007, 02:57 AM
What are toby's ability?...he seems to be a total idiot.
Tobi is sandbagging. When characters act the way he is acting it usually means that character is holding back and is probably really vicious. I doubt he really cares if dei dies. Tobi won't get serious in the manga until he feels threatened.
Starhammer
07-02-2007, 04:39 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CrNp7qFehg0&mode=related&search= I didn't do it, but I completely like it!!! :tup:
-Starhammer-
Monarc G.
07-02-2007, 07:33 PM
Wtf is wrong with the naruto series, they're totally forgetting about Shino and Kiba. Thats what happens when you involve too much characters in a anime.
Btw i say this because Shino is one of my favorites. I think they somehow need to show them atleast eating some hamburguers or something.
Starhammer
07-02-2007, 07:43 PM
Wtf is wrong with the naruto series, they're totally forgetting about Shino and Kiba. Thats what happens when you involve too much characters in a anime.
Btw i say this because Shino is one of my favorites. I think they somehow need to show them atleast eating some hamburguers or something.
true. there's lots of characters getting slept on. Remember Anko? people who jumped on after the itachi arc may not even know she exists. while there isn't much that she does in the series, she's got a history that I'm sure we would all like to know more about. That's worth some meaningful filler if nothing else. with luck, shino, kiba, and the queen will all be getting a chance to shine soon in the manga. Keep your fingers crossed.
-Starhammer-
The Epidemic
07-02-2007, 07:44 PM
^i miss anko....
AlphaDragoon02
07-02-2007, 09:26 PM
true. there's lots of characters getting slept on. Remember Anko? people who jumped on after the itachi arc may not even know she exists. while there isn't much that she does in the series, she's got a history that I'm sure we would all like to know more about. That's worth some meaningful filler if nothing else. with luck, shino, kiba, and the queen will all be getting a chance to shine soon in the manga. Keep your fingers crossed.
-Starhammer-
This is called, "Kishi would rather develop brand new characters than the ones he made already, unless you're Team 7."
Tootall
07-02-2007, 11:37 PM
snip
aaahhh i see.. cool, thanks for clearing that up. wasn't really sure, considering that if the sharingan can see 5 steps ahead of anyones movements, and all the other crazy stuff it does, than i would think it should be able to tell the diff. between real and bunshin.
but i am liking the fact they're showing another way around the sharingan, besides Guy's watching feet and body technique. Dei's definitely become a new fav. character within the last few segments.
MAGUS1234
07-02-2007, 11:45 PM
^^^I know, but don't get too attatched :(
SaiST
07-04-2007, 04:48 AM
Spoilers haven't been entirely confirmed, but it all seems legit...
PIC 1 (http://our.3320.net/land/uploads/2007/07/04/post-2-1183546712.jpg)|PIC 2 (http://our.3320.net/land/uploads/2007/07/04/post-2-1183546724.jpg)
Deidara has either exposed Sasuke to his C4, or detonates the clay around Sasuke, and defeated him. This turns out to be another Genjutsu, and the tables are turned yet again.
That's all we got right now. Not too thrilled with the chapter based on these spoilers. Not because of any Sharingan-related complaints... It just sounds redundant... Panel with Sasuke bustin' out the fierce is nice though. Somebody should make an avy of that. :smile:
Lookin' foward to the complaints about Sharingan-hax at NF though. That'll be fun.
AlphaDragoon02
07-04-2007, 07:07 AM
Me personally, I wanna see how the fuckers spin it so that Sasuke and Deidara both look cool when Sasuke caught him with the same trick twice....what other Akatsuki got caught with the same trick twice and by whom...?
Oh yeah....that was Kakuzu, fighting Naruto.
SaiST
07-04-2007, 07:25 AM
We still need to be clear on the details. We don't know if Sasuke cast another Sharingan Genjutsu, or if Sasuke's just been messin' with his head ever since C4 came into the picture.
But if it's the former, I agree, it'll be fun to see how folks spin it.
Personally, I thought it was understandable how Kakuzu was taken out, I just didn't like the fact that this broken training method, acquiring this mastery of Fuuton Ninjutsu, and Kage Bunshin, only lead to a more destructive result of the same stuff we've been getting since Part 1. Maybe if the fight was fleshed out lot more, kind like Sasuke's fight is now, people wouldn't have had as much of a problem with Kakuzu being done in that way.
UnCauzi
07-04-2007, 12:02 PM
There's no way you can spin it, Neiji put up a better fight than Kakuzu. The Kakuzu fight was pure bonafied ASS, and will remain that way for eternity.
Bowza
07-04-2007, 01:16 PM
There's no way you can spin it, Neiji put up a better fight than Kakuzu. The Kakuzu fight was pure bonafied ASS, and will remain that way for eternity.
Especially after he was hyped up so much all with "I fought the first hokage." What a waste of a kickass character design
TheRedCyclone
07-04-2007, 01:29 PM
if the new spoiler is true i reeeaaallly hope that Tobi gets involved. i mean being able to tell if something is a bunshin seems to be pretty special.
Power Man Fox
07-04-2007, 01:33 PM
Kakashi could "see" zabuza's bunshin(sp).
Bowza
07-04-2007, 01:38 PM
Kakashi could "see" zabuza's bunshin(sp).
When did he do that? I just remember him copying the technique real quick.
Havoc
07-04-2007, 02:16 PM
He would have had to realize they were Mizu Bunshins to copy them, wouldn't he?
TheRedCyclone
07-04-2007, 02:27 PM
He would have had to realize they were Mizu Bunshins to copy them, wouldn't he?
well if there is suddenly 2 of someone, one of em has to be a bunshin... just sayin.
SaiST
07-04-2007, 02:41 PM
Kakashi never saw through any of Zabuza's Mizu Bunshin. He saw it being made during the beginning of the fight, that's how he copied it.
kane_warhead
07-04-2007, 02:41 PM
Especially after he was hyped up so much all with "I fought the first hokage." What a waste of a kickass character design
Maybe he got knocked the fuck out by the first hokage. And just left him there thinking he isn't much of a threat.
Havoc
07-04-2007, 02:53 PM
Kakashi never saw through any of Zabuza's Mizu Bunshin. He saw it being made during the beginning of the fight, that's how he copied it.
But doesn't the fact that he can copy the jutsu suggest that he can see it?
Isn't the basis of Sharingan-based copying that the user can see how the jutsu works, therefore, he can figure out how to do it on his own.
If Kakashi were to just see it being done just like anyone else that was watching, there'd be no way he could just copy it.
He's able to see the nature of the jutsu, thus he can copy it.
Bowza
07-04-2007, 03:04 PM
The two times Kakashi and Itachi fought, Kakashi used bunshins both times without Itachi realizing it.
Maybe he got knocked the fuck out by the first hokage. And just left him there thinking he isn't much of a threat.
Maybe he did, but I think they mentioned how the first hokage died in battle protecting konoha or something. I thought they were gonna tie in kakuzu into that somehow but instead he ended up dying a few chapters later.[/B]
strakka
07-04-2007, 03:42 PM
Personally, I thought it was understandable how Kakuzu was taken out, I just didn't like the fact that this broken training method, acquiring this mastery of Fuuton Ninjutsu, and Kage Bunshin, only lead to a more destructive result of the same stuff we've been getting since Part 1. Maybe if the fight was fleshed out lot more, kind like Sasuke's fight is now, people wouldn't have had as much of a problem with Kakuzu being done in that way.
Yeah, but there's that thing where Naruto says the equivalent of "Wind makes fire dance." I forget the exact line, but it looks like Kishi already had something planned way back then, and we're just waiting to see how it unfolds. I'm getting the feeling that Naruto & Sasuke are going to pull some insane wind+fire jutsu to beat someone- most likely Itachi, since it doesn't make sense for Sasuke to care if Naruto helps him take down anyone else.
Adam Warlock
07-05-2007, 11:11 AM
Sasuke is using a Bunshin and Tobi saw through it apparently. Deidara is about to do a suicide attack to kill Sasuke when Tobi tells him not to waste it on a bunshin.
bbq sauce
07-05-2007, 02:31 PM
Didn't Sasuke tell Naruto he could tell the difference between him and bunshin?
AlphaDragoon02
07-05-2007, 02:33 PM
Sasuke is using a Bunshin and Tobi saw through it apparently. Deidara is about to do a suicide attack to kill Sasuke when Tobi tells him not to waste it on a bunshin.
Not confirmed yet. It could be the real spoiler, but just letting you know it might not be.
Bowza
07-05-2007, 02:56 PM
Didn't Sasuke tell Naruto he could tell the difference between him and bunshin?
I think he said that durin their fight in the anime(it was a filler part of the fight) but I'm sure he never said that in the manga.
Adam Warlock
07-05-2007, 03:17 PM
Not confirmed yet. It could be the real spoiler, but just letting you know it might not be.
No, it's confirmed. I called kishi myself. He also said that in Naruto and Sasuke's final battle, Sasuke gets owned by Naruto's ultimate fusion of Wind and Earth elements which he uses to tblow dirt in Sasuke's eyes. "MANGE--NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
SaiST
07-05-2007, 06:41 PM
So, nothing's been confirmed yet(well, it would be better to say that it hasn't been 100% determined whether or not this is really from the usual source, as folks have been impersonating him for a lil' while now), but I'm thinkin' what we got now is real, because of the talk of elemental vulnerabilities again.
PIC 1 (http://our.3320.net/land/uploads/2007/07/04/post-2-1183546712.jpg)|PIC 2 (http://our.3320.net/land/uploads/2007/07/04/post-2-1183546724.jpg)
From the comment apparently from Himajin, most of the chapter is devoted to Sasuke explaining his victory to Deidara. In other words, it might be interesting but it's certainly not exciting or dramatic.
Anyway, my interpretation so far:
Sasuke breaks free from Deidara with the chidori.
Sasuke appears to break up C4 style (maybe only his snake wing?)
Deidara is convinced he won.
It turns out Sasuke breaking up was a genjutsu and Deidara is punched in the face.
Sasuke explains to Deidara something. I don't really understand, but I think he neutralized the C4 bombs by internally using chidori current.
He apparently continues explaining how he got out to just about the end of the chapter.
But doesn't the fact that he can copy the jutsu suggest that he can see it?
Yes. See how the chakra is kneaded, how the seals are formed, all that is necessary to create a Mizu Bunshin. If Kisame sent a Mizu Bunshin from Kakashi's blindside during his Hidden Mist technique, and he and the Bunshin attacked at the same time, Kakashi wouldn't be able to tell which one is the real deal unless there were of the abnormalities I mentioned before.
Sharingan can see, and copy the process of using the technique. But, assuming my theory is accurate, it cannot "see through" it in the same manner as a regular Bunshin, or Genjutsu.
SIMPLY_HUGO
07-05-2007, 09:19 PM
These episodes are starting to depress me...they talked so much.Not to mention when you fight clones of yourself what usually happens? You let someone else fight your clone! Im pretty sure thats wat will happen...i need more action!! Im tired of waiting 14days for this junk
fei long
07-05-2007, 10:30 PM
i thought sasori and dei was gonna throw down....nope i get to watch bruce lee and bruce lee jr fight their clones ....come on man! lets get it on
Chidori
07-05-2007, 11:06 PM
new ending credits.. hmm i guess it's as if they were possibly in the real world..
Power Man Fox
07-05-2007, 11:08 PM
If Kisame sent a Mizu Bunshin from Kakashi's blindside during his Hidden Mist technique, and he and the Bunshin attacked at the same time, Kakashi wouldn't be able to tell which one is the real deal unless there were of the abnormalities I mentioned before.
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That's what i kinda meant. Kakashi knew the first zabuza he attacked was a clone. It wasn't a 1oo% clone of the original that's how I think he knew. That was my point in reguard's to tobi "seeing" sasuke's bunshin. If the spoiler is correct and tobi (lol has sharingan) does in fact see through sasuke's bunshin it isn't that big a deal. It could just mean sasuke doesn't have that jutsu perfected. Or It could be certain types of bunshin have flaws.(?)
Didn't oro see through sai's bunshin? I dunno maybe shadow clone's are the only one's that can't be "noticed".:sweat:
4neqs
07-05-2007, 11:18 PM
New ED is great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBxl9GqKJ54
dn3000
07-06-2007, 02:18 AM
New ED is great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBxl9GqKJ54
a possible spin off: the naruto chronicles - set in high school:lovin::rofl:
SaiST
07-06-2007, 06:40 AM
More spoiler pics: PIC 1 (http://photo6.hexun.com/p/2007/0706/110300/b_57938065C1F3644B4A5565B39C6E83B1.jpg)|PIC 2 (http://photo6.hexun.com/p/2007/0706/110300/b_42B1874BF617D5EDEEF3FFA79DD42066.jpg)|PIC 3 (http://photo6.hexun.com/p/2007/0706/110300/b_A135C2C58DE1EB2AE71E4934DFF21881.jpg)|PIC 4 (http://photo6.hexun.com/p/2007/0706/110300/b_E702BEB40E7B0399D7886BC18635A3A1.jpg)|PIC 5 (http://photo6.hexun.com/p/2007/0706/110300/b_DEB9DB5F6F35F7F72C40CE8013838DAA.jpg)
That last panel... :smile:
catchafire
07-06-2007, 08:24 AM
Sasuke: In front of these eyes... blah, blah, blah...
AlphaDragoon02
07-06-2007, 09:00 AM
Translation of the new spoiler pics
First Page
C4 again...
It swallows Sasuke!!!
Second Page
Deidara:"(First part I can't read cause of the red letterings)-Your long range attacks won't hit me!
Deidara:"This is the end."
Third Page
Deidara:"Haha...Why?"
Fourth Page
Deidara:"Guaaaaah!!"
Deidara:"Wha..Whats..Going on?"*Thinking*(If this isn't Genjutsu, this must be)
Deidara:"How did you...The C4 Explosion"
Fifth Page
Sasuke:"If its an automatic explosion it has nothing to do with your will."
Sasuke:"With my electric based jutsu against a ground based explosive, it can be checked if the explosives don't go off."
Deidara:"A...A..."
Sasuke:"Thats right...When I put the katana into the land mine.
Sasuke:"That wasn't to see whether the land mine was there or not."
Sasuke:"Just to make sure."
Sasuke:"With a Chidori soaked katana I inserted into the land mine."
Deidara:"But...How did you..."
Deidara:"How did you pinpoint the landmines exact location!?"
Sasuke:"My eyes can see the colors of chakra..."
Sasuke:"Ya...Didn't I tell you that already?"
Thongboy Bebop
07-06-2007, 09:01 AM
Ha, sick. He looks like Ryuuk in that last pic.
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AlphaDragoon02
07-06-2007, 09:07 AM
And BTW, I'm glad it wasn't a bunshin, and Sasuke HAS actually had to put in work to win. Both guys are fucked up and the fight's about to be decided on skill. Which of course Sasuke will come out on top of, but thank you to Deidara for redeeming Akatsuki a little bit and making at least a couple of their members not look like scrubs.
catchafire
07-06-2007, 09:15 AM
1v1, w/out innocent bystanders, Gaara would rock Deidara's ass...
Adam Warlock
07-06-2007, 09:59 AM
Ha, sick. He looks like Ryuuk in that last pic.
N
I'm not sure who RyuuK is, but damn if he doesn't look like he's ready to beast on heihachi and kazuya. Devil jin for the win.
Thongboy Bebop
07-06-2007, 10:05 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=63OXcTQYMcM
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EVARGNUG
07-06-2007, 10:40 AM
the new ep was...a drag
SaiST
07-06-2007, 10:45 AM
Chinese scanslation by Ikunkun:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/yv6waa
AlphaDragoon02
07-06-2007, 10:53 AM
Again, great fight. No "lolz I would've pwned you from teh getgo" business. Two high-level shinobi slugging it out, that's what I wanted to see.
Ready for it to end though, I want to see the other characters do some stuff. In particular I'm interested to see a 1 on 1 Naruto fight after getting a good look at what Sasuke is capable of.
strakka
07-06-2007, 01:18 PM
I'm not sure who RyuuK is, but damn if he doesn't look like he's ready to beast on heihachi and kazuya. Devil jin for the win.
Ryuuk's the Shinigami from Death Note.
http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/dn4/dn4-20.jpg
Thongboy Bebop
07-06-2007, 01:32 PM
1v1, w/out innocent bystanders, Gaara would rock Deidara's ass...
That's like getting into a bar-fight and then complaining when you get knocked out with a bottle, though.
Deidara isn't stupid enough to just go head-up with arguably one of the strongest shinobi in the entire manga. He went about it like a ninja, using the environment to his advantage. Naruto's the only moron that can get away with that nonsense, and that's only because his name is on the marquee.
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gemdoom
07-06-2007, 04:56 PM
nice chapter overall. i doubt deidara is gonna die liek this tobi is gonna get involved just how kakuzu stepped in to help hidan in the first encounter.
MagnusMadness
07-06-2007, 06:14 PM
Shippuuden anime is sucking so much ass I can't stand it right now. I watch it because it's only 30 minutes of my life that's being wasted.
the fights pre shippuuden ( I'm talkin anime, NOT manga) were fucking EPIC. Shippuuden is now about to air episode 20 (almost 6 months worth of weekly episodes) and NOTHING has really happened.
Gaara vs. Rock Lee, chuunin exams almost made me piss my pants...
Gai vs. Kisame, shippuuden....he opens what, 6 gates? animation was slow and shitty leading up to an anticlimactic ending. (he got kicked hard and died.) Rest of the new and improved team proved totally useless. TenTen should die....god please just fucking DIE bitch!!!! You are more useless than baby sakura!!
See what I mean? I couldn't stop watching pre filler naruto....new shit is boooooring.
Is the manga better?
AlphaDragoon02
07-06-2007, 06:22 PM
Gai vs. Kisame, shippuuden....he opens what, 6 gates? animation was slow and shitty leading up to an anticlimactic ending. (he got kicked hard and died.) Rest of the new and improved team proved totally useless. TenTen should die....god please just fucking DIE bitch!!!! You are more useless than baby sakura!!
See what I mean? I couldn't stop watching pre filler naruto....new shit is boooooring.
Is the manga better?
Eh, I think Tenten held her own there. Certainly more useful than Ino is in her team's arc (you'll see). And Neji saved their asses from drowning in Kisame's water prison.
You want useless...try Hinata in the manga's current arc. Or Ino in the one before it.
The Epidemic
07-06-2007, 06:34 PM
the anime sucks right now because they barely cover even a chapter from the manga each episode.
ReggieHadoken
07-06-2007, 06:34 PM
Looks like the next chapters is going to wrap up the Sasuke vs. Ded, fight, which is fine by me because I really want to know what the other characters are up to.
AlphaDragoon02
07-06-2007, 06:40 PM
Looks like the next chapters is going to wrap up the Sasuke vs. Ded, fight, which is fine by me because I really want to know what the other characters are up to.
Yep. Frankly I'm kinda tired of this fight anyway, so I hope we can move on to some other business soon.
Like I said, I really want to see Naruto take on somebody. After seeing how good Sasuke is in a real, non-fodder fight I want to see how Naruto stacks up.
SaiST
07-06-2007, 06:46 PM
the anime sucks right now because they barely cover even a chapter from the manga each episode.
That wouldn't be too much of a problem if they did it right. It's good that they have things moving at this pace, so we don't end up in filler-land again(which'll be many times worse!). I just wish they did a better job with material they stretch the episodes out with.
I swear the majority of the first two seasons' budget went straight to Sasuke's re-introduction. I'm starting to doubt we'll see anything up there with 133 until that episode airs.
Chidori Nagashi should look nice though. :smile:
i have two things to say:
can we fucking see wtf tobi is going to do already?
and
why the fuck is the anime taking 30 min to cover like 5 panels from the manga?
It's good that they have things moving at this pace, so we don't end up in filler-land :no disrespect at all, SaiST but...
stop lying to yourself. its not good. it'd be good if they went a lil faster...i didn't say naruto pre time skip fast, but just a lil faster than the current speed they're at.
whats going on right now is unacceptable. its boring, its dragging on and...its not worth a d/l or even wasting my time watching it.
lets say you have 25 pages in a comic. one episode of naruto shippuden is like covering 3 pages of a 25 page comic. so instead of fillers after catching up with the fillers, we're getting fillers within episodes to drag it out. thats not going to work.
somebody explain it better. please.
AlphaDragoon02
07-06-2007, 06:53 PM
ANYTHING is better than a YEAR'S WORTH OF FILLER BULLSHIT. Of fucking retards going "lolz is dat sum tiger Mizuki?". Of Tea Ninja who shoot ninja beads from their tea. Of "Ballerina Hinata" who surpasses Neji all of a sudden. Or Sakura with Tsunade strength THREE YEARS EARLY.
I repeat, ANYTHING.
Havoc
07-06-2007, 06:59 PM
Yep. Frankly I'm kinda tired of this fight anyway, so I hope we can move on to some other business soon.
Like I said, I really want to see Naruto take on somebody. After seeing how good Sasuke is in a real, non-fodder fight I want to see how Naruto stacks up.
Maaaaaaaaaan, FUCK Naruto!
We've BEEN watching that fool fight. He's already squared up against Akatsuki 3-4 times in part 2 already. Plus Orochimaru.
Let's see Shino.
thats true too...but maybe they'll (if they do have filler) focus on whatever the pics were in the ending? a high school spinoff would be kinda dope.
AlphaDragoon02
07-06-2007, 07:02 PM
Maaaaaaaaaan, FUCK Naruto!
We've BEEN watching that fool fight. He's already squared up against Akatsuki 3-4 times in part 2 already. Plus Orochimaru.
Let's see Shino.
See Shino suck ass like Ino and Chouji? Uh...sure.
I put cash Team 8 has little to do with the events of this arc. My brother says Kishi just put them there so people wouldn't lynch him. :rofl:
I want a fight with Naruto post KB training that isn't retarded and made to end quick/showcase the FRS like the Kakuzu fight was.
The Epidemic
07-06-2007, 07:09 PM
That wouldn't be too much of a problem if they did it right. It's good that they have things moving at this pace, so we don't end up in filler-land again(which'll be many times worse!). I just wish they did a better job with material they stretch the episodes out with.
I swear the majority of the first two seasons' budget went straight to Sasuke's re-introduction. I'm starting to doubt we'll see anything up there with 133 until that episode airs.
Chidori Nagashi should look nice though. :smile:
True...but think about how many episodes the sasori/ chiyo fight is gonna be if they keep at the pace they're goin now. Until they speed it up to atleast 3 chapters a episode, this shit is gonna be boring and slooooow.
I do agree that they finished the budget on episode 1 of shippu too...:sweat:
gemdoom
07-06-2007, 07:19 PM
son havoc hit it on the spot. it's good to see naruto fight but whenever he fought he came and saved the day/ in my opinion his solo fights are where it's at his group fights besides the deidara one are kinda wack.
strakka
07-06-2007, 10:16 PM
Seriously, they're dragging Shippuden out way too long. It's been 20 episodes, we have yet to finish one arc, and we've been dealt a shitload of jobbed fights. Early Naruto was done intro fillers + Zabuza arc at this point.
It's not worth following shonen anime at ALL as far as I'm concerned. I'd only watch specific fights or events that were good in the manga, since its nice to see it animated. Other then that, I don't see the point. You're already keeping up with the manga, why do you need to repeat the storyline to yourself by watching the anime? By no means is it necessary.
Then again, it could just be me, since I can't afford to download the 3 shonen anime episodes I like (Naruto/Bleach/One Piece) each week due to shitty internet. I USED to follow the anime though, but really, there's other animes I could watch as opposed to watching an hour of shonen anime weekly.
Besides that, people bitch endlessly about all sorts of shit that happens in the anime. Bad animation quality, bad music, bad changes that make it different from the manga, the pace, and most of all, the filters. If you don't like it, then just don't watch it :\
bbq sauce
07-07-2007, 10:15 AM
Based on the title of next weeks chapter, I think Dei might go the way of Vegeta and suicide bomb it.. Hopefully it at least damages Sasuke...
MagnusMadness
07-07-2007, 10:36 AM
It's not worth following shonen anime at ALL as far as I'm concerned. I'd only watch specific fights or events that were good in the manga, since its nice to see it animated. Other then that, I don't see the point. You're already keeping up with the manga, why do you need to repeat the storyline to yourself by watching the anime? By no means is it necessary.
Then again, it could just be me, since I can't afford to download the 3 shonen anime episodes I like (Naruto/Bleach/One Piece) each week due to shitty internet. I USED to follow the anime though, but really, there's other animes I could watch as opposed to watching an hour of shonen anime weekly.
Besides that, people bitch endlessly about all sorts of shit that happens in the anime. Bad animation quality, bad music, bad changes that make it different from the manga, the pace, and most of all, the filters. If you don't like it, then just don't watch it :\
I typically don't bitch about an anime not being good. I've seen bad anime. But I guess it's that they are RUINING naruto. It was so great before. (I didn't follow the anime)
I typically don't bitch about an anime not being good. I've seen bad anime. But I guess it's that they are RUINING naruto. It was so great before. (I didn't follow the anime)
My post is mainly targeted to those who continously watch the anime even though it only gets worse and worse. Basically, those who force themselves to watch it no matter how bad it gets, all the while continously bitching about it.
I followed the Naruto anime up until the Sasuke retrieval arc and then I stopped cold turkey JUST as the fillers started. I sincerely hope people who don't like fillers would NOT WATCH THE FILLERS, but not everyone does that.
I watched the first eps of Shippuuden, they were good, but once again, it occured to me that I was basically watching the manga in animation with music and voices. That's what it is, pretty much.
In any case, I've watched the anime and it WAS good while I watched it. But, if you feel they're butchering it, then hey, no harm done if you decide not to watch it, right?
I can understand why people want to watch the anime, perhaps because they're just big fans and want to collect it, or they like seeing it animated as opposed to drawings on a page (I myself watch specific parts that were good in the manga like I said), or what else. But if you don't like how it's going, then save yourself the hard drive space/DVD to burn on, and don't bother.
edit: Ok, as for Naruto stuff. I hope that Tobi steps in (finally) to save Deidara from his near demise.
I thought the fight was okay, yes, kind of uncreative, but alright. I do find it funny that Dei and Sasuke were just sitting there talking how they went about the fight. Sure it's informative to the reader, but its kind of silly.
AlphaDragoon02
07-07-2007, 10:59 AM
Moral of the story: READ THE MANGA.
MagnusMadness
07-07-2007, 12:39 PM
Wow!! So the anime used to cover roughly 3 manga chapters and now it barely covers 1!!! That is so gay.
SIMPLY_HUGO
07-07-2007, 12:53 PM
Tenten is such garbage...i can shoot things out of paper!!
AlphaDragoon02
07-07-2007, 01:29 PM
Based on the title of next weeks chapter, I think Dei might go the way of Vegeta and suicide bomb it.. Hopefully it at least damages Sasuke...
Sasuke's plenty damaged right now, I think if he gets caught in a suicide blast it might kill him ATM.
catchafire
07-07-2007, 01:32 PM
Whatever happens, Sasuke has his team protecting him as well as his fans (Naruto and co.) to protect him.
dn3000
07-07-2007, 04:52 PM
People please stop bashing the episodes and their length.... the team gai fight was not covered in the manga so showing it now is a plus. ANYTHING IS better than fillers...
Rhio2k
07-07-2007, 06:04 PM
Oh shit...I just saw the youngest toad (Gatatsu or whatever, I was laughing too hard) summoned in the dub. This nigga sounds JUST like Mr. Hanky!! Oh my god...:rofl:
ReggieHadoken
07-07-2007, 06:09 PM
I was watching Naruto on CN's Toonami. They just showed the ep where Tsunade and Kabuto were fighting. Naruto was confused to why they fighting and Kabuto started dissing Naruto, saying how he was weak and nothing like Saskue. If I were Naruto, I'd been like "I'm surprised you were able to get Orochimaru's nuts out of your mouth long enough to form those insults."
Oh and the scene with Gamakichi and Gamaketsu was freaking hilarious!! I LOLed hord!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
EDIT: Rhio2k beat me to it!! And he's right, he sooo sounds like Mr. Hanky!! Oh its too good!! That frog won that ep!!!
SIMPLY_HUGO
07-07-2007, 06:15 PM
i saw that episode too^^^
Kabuto rocks it.
ReggieHadoken
07-07-2007, 06:41 PM
Gotta admit, Kabuto does have skills. Even so, he was talking a big game but he still got messed up by Naruto's Rasengan.
Oh snap!! Whenever Gama yellow toad opens his mouth, its comedy. COMEDY!! when he speaks, laughter is gauranteed!! :rofl:
Hunter D
07-07-2007, 06:53 PM
Anyone know why people still pay narutofan?
DeafNYCPlayer72
07-07-2007, 07:36 PM
Many readers might be clueless that they paid fee to read past chapters. I think that Tazmo collect profits.
They should know that every fantranslated manga is free.
catchafire
07-07-2007, 08:54 PM
Yeah, Tazmo is getting his, lol. He has it set up that you have to pay to dl past manga chapters? Man, that's pushing the line!
b-but with Narutofan PLUS, you can, like..download anime episodes direct download, and..and..download volumes at a time! and...oh yeah, you can possibly win a free Wii!1
Lols @ Tazmo and gullible buyers. People paying money for something easily accessible elsewhere on the interwebs for free. Not only that, but every single subber for anime and manga usually state somewhere "This is a FREE fansub, if you paid for this you got ripped off!"or something like that. Siiigh.
4neqs
07-07-2007, 09:55 PM
Tenten is such garbage...i can shoot things out of paper!!
It was like watching a Guile vs. Guile match, nothing much other than neutralizing each others' projectiles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHyoFNJTTKE
Gai's was awesome though, a vertical fight on a cliff.
Now I know why GaiLee wear their protectors on their belts. They look so goofy wearing it on their foreheads.
----
re: manga
LOL @ "Electric beats Ground", that is so reverse Pokemon.
strakka
07-08-2007, 10:24 AM
Ok. Let's start making bets. How many episodes will it take for them to get through Naruto's FRS training?
I'm saying 18 episodes.
oh Lord...they'll probably drag out his FRS training for 18 more episodes, too. i dunno...i'll say 21.
bbq sauce
07-08-2007, 12:15 PM
I'm gonna have to say they stretch out the frs trainging ofr like a whole season.. then when they finally show the move, it will be totally anticlimatic and shitty looking.
LOL @ "Electric beats Ground", that is so reverse Pokemon
Lol, I was think Pokemon as soon as they brought the whole elemental thing into play.
Green
07-08-2007, 12:30 PM
The whole elemental thing is bullshit anyway. For something so basic, so... integral to battle tactics, it should have been present from damn near the beginning of the manga/anime.
Markudea
07-08-2007, 02:43 PM
The whole elemental thing is bullshit anyway. For something so basic, so... integral to battle tactics, it should have been present from damn near the beginning of the manga/anime.
I agree... It seems that Naruto had just recently learned what his nature affinity was while a few others knew theirs years ago (some still might not know theirs now). Kishi could've stated that earlier as it would've made more sense to me on why Sasuke's Chidori just pierced straight through Gaara's sand defense at the Chuunin Exam (Lightning > Earth).
Green
07-08-2007, 02:46 PM
What doesn't make sense is how lightning can stop lightning.
Markudea
07-08-2007, 02:55 PM
What doesn't make sense is how lightning can stop lightning.
Well, I believe it depends on the level and strength of the nature-manipulated jutsu and that's how that works.
Green
07-08-2007, 02:57 PM
Well, I believe it depends on the level and strength of the nature-manipulated jutsu and that's how that works.
o so liek teh lighting cancelz eh lolz
4neqs
07-08-2007, 04:49 PM
I was watching Naruto on CN's Toonami. They just showed the ep where Tsunade and Kabuto were fighting. Naruto was confused to why they fighting and Kabuto started dissing Naruto, saying how he was weak and nothing like Saskue. If I were Naruto, I'd been like "I'm surprised you were able to get Orochimaru's nuts out of your mouth long enough to form those insults."
Watched it as well. I didn't care much for Kabuto before, but man he was awesome in this episode (blood censoring aside). Stomping little kids, and medical jutsu slapping women in the chest, big and flat alike.
And to think, he's even better now now in the manga.
Interesting speech by Orochimaru as well.
"Blah blah blah Sasuke, blah blah blah blah sharingan blah blah genius blah many jutsus blah blah."
And to think that, three or four years later in the manga, that's still the major talking point of the series. He's just stopping short of naming the series "Sharingan". :looney::looney:
The Epidemic
07-08-2007, 05:17 PM
I told you guys Kabuto was a beast...
DeafNYCPlayer72
07-08-2007, 06:07 PM
I think that Tobi might be Road Runner wanna be.
Tobi: Beep!!! Beep!!! Beep!!!
Sasuke: *summons* Snake!!! Go!!!
Tobi: *stuck tongue* *runs away*
The End... >.>
4neqs
07-08-2007, 06:15 PM
If he forces Sasuke E. Coyote to fall down huge canyons in a cloud of dust, I'm cool with that.
Starhammer
07-09-2007, 06:34 PM
If he forces Sasuke E. Coyote to fall down huge canyons in a cloud of dust, I'm cool with that.
don't get your hopes up. unlike wille, this coyote is packing wings, a sword, and lightning and fire power along with one of the most broken bio-weapons since tekkaman blade. sharingan is almost an instant win button. to be honest though, I'm pulling for tobi to beast and for dei dei to just survive for the moment. I guess what I DON'T want really is that sasuke's evolution is just too much IMO. I mean, he goes from being beasted in his first meeting with oro, then another beasting at the hands of the sound five, to just owning everything from here to the brooklyn bridge. right now, I wonder what other akatsuki member could he take on an even level? could he have handled kukuzu or sasori? kukuzu didn't really show and prove, but sasori ate up kankuro like he had a free lunch sign glued to his chest. I'm sure that sasori would make for a decent fight if they didn't SCREW HIM FOR SAKURA TO GET SOME STREET CRED!!! :annoy: unless she gets tsunade's body and hinata's manners and characterisms, she can sho nuff kiss my converse. Okay. I'll chill for now because i'm just getting the haterade out again.
-Starhammer-
Havoc
07-09-2007, 07:03 PM
Somebody better die. Fights in Naruto that don't lead to death are colossal wastes of time.
And Sasuke needs to beast. I hope you don't really think Kankouro is some standard now... Fuck that. Sasuke needs to be the strongest of his generation for this shit to work at all.
Power Man Fox
07-09-2007, 10:45 PM
I'm sure that sasori would make for a decent fight
-Starhammer-
Maybe :sweat: Latest chapter emphasised sharingan "give's chakra color" (iirc)
Sasuke would see the chakra strings and be at an advantage right off the bat.
Also according to last chapter does sharingan have microscopic vision? Or was that panel just for the readers?
MagnusMadness
07-10-2007, 04:47 AM
4 tailed naruto vs. sasuke.....place ur bets.....who do u think would win?
ShinjiGohan
07-10-2007, 05:00 AM
at this moment, sasuke.
catchafire
07-10-2007, 06:13 AM
At this point, Naruto is NO WHERE near the level of Sasuke- Kyubified or not. Sasuke can beast on Deidara w/out the Mangekyou sharingan- just imagine if he did! Lights out from the get-go.
Naruto's intellect has been stagnant since the beginning of part two. The series needs to focus heavily on Sasuke so that Naruto can re-emerge 'smart'. Sasuke has NO weakness. After every fight, he looks calm as can be. Naruto on the other hand is always in stitches and being told not to do this/that or else he's dead. Come on now.
AlphaDragoon02
07-10-2007, 06:56 AM
4 tailed naruto vs. sasuke.....place ur bets.....who do u think would win?
4-tailed...I dunno. Dude was pretty much unstoppable and the only reason Yamato was able to get in close enough to use his bijuu suppressing ability (that only he can do) was because he got the opening from Sakura's tear-filled "OMG NO" thing.
Let's check off the list of attacks that did damage to four-tailed Kyuubi Naruto:
Kusanagi which is harder than diamond....oh wait, that didn't work. Snake summons....that didn't do anything either. Wait, did Oro do anything that hurt him in that state? No...? Oh.
The only chance Sasuke has at stopping that thing is outlasting it, since it MAY have a weakness in that Naruto's body wouldn't be able to handle the crazy damage/healing having the four-tailed shroud was doing.
EDIT: You people are still on the "Sasuke is Jesus" thing? Deidara fight CLEARLY shows him having to work for the win, and being heavily damaged in the process. He's calm right now, but that's only because that's how he acts...he's jacked up physically. Sasuke IS a badass motherfucker, but they've shown a great fight that dispels his supposed "godliness" and that makes me happy.
The Epidemic
07-10-2007, 07:09 AM
^yea...honestly has sasuke ever had a fight that he didnt get his ass kicked in is the question? Zabuza kicked his ass, Haku did, Rock was going too...ummm Gaara made him pass out, Big Bro put him to sleep...Sakon slapped him up real quick. I mean the only fight hes ever truly won so far that i count is Naruto (and he was getting fucked in that fight.) Sure he got Oro while he was weak but so what...And now Deidara is given him a run for his money.
-Sasuke isnt that nice imo. (and he has the sharingan!)
Havoc
07-10-2007, 07:18 AM
Sasuke FUCKED up Zaku and had Dosu (easily the bad-ass of the crew) beggng for his life.
Sasuke beat that random guy in the Chuunin exams too.
Since then, Sasuke hasn't been in a fight where he wasn't the clear underdog.
So he lost to a monster (Gaara... who was getting fucked up before he went Bloody Roar on the kid), he lost in a 4 on 1 fight to guys with powers he's never seen before... and that's about it.
He's clearly above Naruto right now, and as for how he'd beat 4-Tail, just Sharingan that shit.
EDIT- Honestly, Naruto STILL hasn't had a peformance as impressive as Sasuke's againt Zaku...
The Epidemic
07-10-2007, 07:24 AM
^you cant have the sharingan and be a underdog...doesnt make sense imo.
-edit - i forgot about that random chuunin exam nin, but that dude was choking sasuke out for a lil while..
AlphaDragoon02
07-10-2007, 07:29 AM
He's clearly above Naruto right now, and as for how he'd beat 4-Tail, just Sharingan that shit.
Honestly, I don't even think that genjutsu shit would work on four-tailed KN. He's gonna plant an illusion in the head of a fucking maniac who probably doesn't give much of a fuck what it destroys ANYWAY. Yeah, that'll help.
Three-tomoe was still getting owned by the chakra paws that split every which way, nothing Sasuke's shown looks like it could even HURT him in that state...yeah.
I think Sasuke could avoid getting himself fucked up by it for awhile, but I dunno about beating it. That's what Yamato's for, to suppress the bijuu when it goes overboard (which Sasuke didn't actually do, he sent the Kyuubi's presence away in Naruto's mind).
Havoc
07-10-2007, 07:30 AM
Sasuke's Sharingan was VERY weak up until the very end of Part 1.
Plus there was a long-ass period when he really couldn't use the Sharingan much at all due to the curse seal.
Sasuke hate is so lame. Especially when it goes against the actual facts of what happened in the story.
The Epidemic
07-10-2007, 07:39 AM
Sasuke's Sharingan was VERY weak up until the very end of Part 1.
Plus there was a long-ass period when he really couldn't use the Sharingan much at all due to the curse seal.
Sasuke hate is so lame. Especially when it goes against the actual facts of what happened in the story.
you know it just hit me on who Zaku and Dosu were...I was tryin to think of who you was talkin about for a while, then it hit me. Those weak ass low-level pawns Oro sent out during the Chuunin exams!? :rofl: you gotta be kidding if you count that as a accomplishment. Didnt Shino rape that guy too? Like I said b4 Sasuke won only One fight and thats Naruto no one else. Sasuke is like..what 1-4
Havoc
07-10-2007, 07:59 AM
Shino was clearly in the top 5 of young Konoha nin at that point in the series (Neji, Lee, Sasuke, Shino/Shika), so losing to him isn't that bad.
Plus you have to account for everyone's level at that point.
At that point in the story, Dosu and Zaku were fucking shit up. Completely killing that shit off at that point in the story was a hug deal.
You want to look at just numbers.... Naruto has fought more than Sasuke so you can't really do that, and again... Sasuke fought 4 on 1 and got beat. He fought Itachi... and got beat... OK.
He then beat Naruto, and since has been beasting.
MagnusMadness
07-10-2007, 08:23 AM
So far...looks like 4 tailed naruto hasn't shown any invulnerability except to yamato's ability to suppress tailed beasts (how fucking convenient....FUCKING LAME)
So if the four tailed state does this much damage to his body....what are the chances of him being able to tap into more of the nine-tails chakra?
Does anyone think that naruto will end up losing the nine tails to akatsuki later in the series? (It kinda is the only way to advance the plot right?)
catchafire
07-10-2007, 09:11 AM
So far...looks like 4 tailed naruto hasn't shown any invulnerability except to yamato's ability to suppress tailed beasts (how fucking convenient....FUCKING LAME)
So if the four tailed state does this much damage to his body....what are the chances of him being able to tap into more of the nine-tails chakra?
Does anyone think that naruto will end up losing the nine tails to akatsuki later in the series? (It kinda is the only way to advance the plot right?)
Yes, and maybe for once we can have Sasuke chase Naruto around. But can you imagine the hardon Naruto will get if he were saved by Sasuke? :rolleyes:
Starhammer
07-10-2007, 12:53 PM
Maybe :sweat: La