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L.one H.iryu S.aga
07-26-2007, 03:42 PM
LOL.
Sharingan wins. I'm really looking forward to the return of Kabuchimaru now. The stage is set for him to either berserk rage throughout in the inevitable three on one Madara battle or become the next villain.
Mario Lemieux!
07-26-2007, 04:06 PM
tobi=obito and that it, here's what happen:
Obito was about to die when madara found him, madara being already old and with not much time to live suggest that tobi and him fused. The whole fusion process was only possible because they both shared the Uchiha bloodline. Tobi acepted. Then madara use his last powers to heal obito and proceed to fused toghether with him.
Now fused with madara obito seeks to complete the revenge madara had in mind but was to debilitated to do on his own.
was it through fusion dance or namekian fusion?
Chaotic Blue
07-26-2007, 04:09 PM
why does everyone assume that itachi is grooming his brother to kill uchiha madara?
ShinAkumax
07-26-2007, 04:10 PM
It's not an assumption, it's a reason to get up in the morning. Only plot twist that allow for the Sharinga to be pushed even further than before are allowed. Sasuke for life.
scentless
07-26-2007, 04:25 PM
was it through fusion dance or namekian fusion?
namekian fusion, obito was too injuried to dance and madara.. well, madara is just a old man who can't dance anymore...:looney:
Asura
07-26-2007, 04:45 PM
Wait wait wait. Sasuke can travel to different dimensions now? WHAT THE HELL HAS HAPPENED? I miss a few chapters and this guy is pulling some Pink Floyd shit.
ReggieHadoken
07-26-2007, 05:12 PM
Times like these that I wish Naruto was given more than 1 chapter per week. And after this chapter we gotta wait 2 weeks for the next one? Man, this is torture.
Ha! I love how Tobi turned out to be Madara. If that dude is indeed more sinister than Kyuubi then the stuff is really gonna hit the fan. Had a feeling something was going on with Tobi but I never expected him to be Madara. Bet even Itachi can't take that dude. Just once, I'd like to see an expression of fear on Itachi's face.
So when Naruto does become Hokage who's gonna be his advisors? I think Neji would be a good choice. Shikamaru would be good too, but I doubt he'd want the job. Too much work and all.
Havoc
07-26-2007, 05:16 PM
Umm... Shika is over the laziness.
That's what the whole Asuma dying thing was supposed to symbolize.
Mickey D'
07-26-2007, 05:56 PM
It's not an assumption, it's a reason to get up in the morning. Only plot twist that allow for the Sharinga to be pushed even further than before are allowed. Sasuke for life.
I like how everyone here has said "plot twist" this and that...yet how is this a plot twist if WE as SPECTATORS call it out? A plot twist is what just happened. WHO called Tobi being Madara? Instead everyone shouted Obito.
I'm so sick of hearing people say "It'd be really twisted if...___________(insert cliche ass remark)
Wouldn't it be really easy to put 4th as the leader? Or to have Pain just be Naruto's brother? It makes to much sense. Things that make sense....are NOT plot twists. These are things that we've all thought up of already.
Your cliche idealisms are NOT plot twists. They are mere CLICHE IDEALISMS. If your gonna make a guess towards a speculation, put a little more thought into it.
Kira Yamato
07-26-2007, 05:57 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^
Hee hee.
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Oops, I didnt go back enough pages to see it was already posted :D
ShinAkumax
07-26-2007, 08:16 PM
I like how everyone here has said "plot twist" this and that...yet how is this a plot twist if WE as SPECTATORS call it out? A plot twist is what just happened. WHO called Tobi being Madara? Instead everyone shouted Obito.
I'm so sick of hearing people say "It'd be really twisted if...___________(insert cliche ass remark)
Wouldn't it be really easy to put 4th as the leader? Or to have Pain just be Naruto's brother? It makes to much sense. Things that make sense....are NOT plot twists. These are things that we've all thought up of already.
Your cliche idealisms are NOT plot twists. They are mere CLICHE IDEALISMS. If your gonna make a guess towards a speculation, put a little more thought into it.
Are you for real?
sonicspear64
07-26-2007, 09:32 PM
Just got done watching ep 21. It's still boring as usual but just a little more exciting. The music near the end of the ep is kinda good though.
SaiST
07-27-2007, 12:58 AM
Times like these that I wish Naruto was given more than 1 chapter per week. And after this chapter we gotta wait 2 weeks for the next one? Man, this is torture.
We're getting a chapter next week.
No chapter the week after next, then it's back on track.
Since it's about 50 posts back, I'm just gonna go on and post this again... New spoiler pics added:
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ナルト
Naruto
雨の中佇むイタチと鬼鮫。
Itachi and Kisame are standing in the rain
鬼鮫「弟さんのことなら残念でしたね・・・」
Kisame- It's a pity about your brother.
イタチ「あいつは死んでない・・・」
Itachi- He's not dead.
民宿に泊まってるサスケ一行
Sasuke's group has stopped at an inn
暁の情報は集まったがイタチの情報は手に入らなかったと報告する水月
While he was able to get information on Akatsuki, Suigetsu informs them that there's none to be had on Itachi
暁の面々には特別なチャクラがあって動物が反応するとの事。
Apparently each Akatsuki has a special chakra which animals respond to.
あとはカリンと水月の喧嘩、ジュウゴの暴走を止めるみたいな感じがあって場面終了
Karin and Suigetsu get in a quarrel afterwards. The scene ends with Juugo's berserk rage being quelled.
デイダラが自爆したところに集まったナルト達
Naruto and co. are gathered where Deidara blew himself up
ニオイで先ほどまでサスケがいた形跡を掴むが、ここでニオイが消えてしまっている、とカカシ。
Kakashi says that traceable signs of Sasuke are present by scent, but that the trail goes cold there.
しかしキバの凄い嗅覚がサスケの匂いを見つける。カカシ「忍犬以上の鼻とは・・・さすがは犬塚 家だ」
But with Kiba's amazing sense of smell, he's able to discover Sasuke's scent.
Kakashi- "For his nose to surpass that of the nin-ken (ninja dogs)...he truly is one of the Inuzuka family."
暁アジト。
Akatsuki hideout
ペインと女にいろいろ説明する黒幕。
The mastermind explains various things to Pain and the woman
黒幕「われ等が目的を達成するのもあと僅か・・・ そうなれば全てが本来の形に戻るのだ」
Mastermind- "There's little left in order to achieve our aims...in that case everything shall go to it's rightful place."
雷バックで黒幕がトビの姿だとわかる。トビ「写輪眼の本当の力が・・・このうちはマダラの力が 」
We know that the mastermind is Tobi when the back is (lit up?) by thunder/lightning.
Tobi- "The Sharingan's true power...that of my power, Uchiha Madara."
仮面の目の穴から写輪眼が見える。
From the opening of his mask, the Sharingan is visible.
Dj-DarK
07-27-2007, 07:06 AM
Can't trust guys with face masks. I must admit though for being so "sinister" he did a good job acting like a moron. :rofl:
Itachi fanboys make room for Tobi.
TheDarkPhoenix
07-27-2007, 07:11 AM
Can't trust guys with face masks. I must admit though for being so "sinister" he did a good job acting like a moron. :rofl:
Itachi fanboys make room for Tobi.
Yeah i liked tobi cuz he seemed like he was going to be the goofy powerful type. Ah well now, looks like he's going to be the most powerful character in the naurto Verse now... As strong or stronger than Kyubi lol!
Its all about him or his clone running around with Dei all this time.... I wonder what tobi even did to make it into the "black coat gang" I'd like to know before they move on to much further.
Pained Auron
07-27-2007, 07:21 AM
great. another uchiha. how exciting :bluu::bluu::bluu::bluu::bluu::bluu::bluu::bluu:
Havoc
07-27-2007, 07:32 AM
It is great.
Uchihas drive the story. Everyone else is just there.
gemdoom
07-27-2007, 07:47 AM
wonder if they're ever going to go to the city where pein and everyone else is.
MagnusMadness
07-27-2007, 08:16 AM
Ah well now, looks like he's going to be the most powerful character in the naurto Verse now... As strong or stronger than Kyubi lol!
demon chakra isn't even the same as human chakra. So unless this guy is the OG uchiha and his dad is a tengu there shouldn't be any comparison between his finite chakra and the "ultimate" kyuubi chakra. The only thing that levels the playing field is that naruto can't FULLY utilize the fox's power.
Sacr3D
07-27-2007, 09:01 AM
I mean okay Sharingan is broken. But why should it be even stronger than Kyubi's chakra .... Atleast let Kyubi be the most broken thing in the world, and we all know Naruto needs it cause hes VERY useless.
noodleman
07-27-2007, 09:04 AM
should've just called this thing Uchiha or Sharingan instead. For a village that suppose to be wiped out, there seems to be alot of them around....I suppose that's also true for kypton and saiyans...
well there's only 3...
sasuke was the sole survivor, itachi was the one who killed the whole village. we already figured that the madara thing with the tengu background story thingie would probably come into play if you read the theories floating around. obito's body was never recovered, so that equals 3. we knew that madara existed but he was locked away in a temple if you buy the theories floating around. thats 4. madara and obito were not in the village around the time itachi slaughtered his clan so again, thats 2.
i mean the theories for the most part have been accurate. the whole thing with deidara and his art was accurate, right? the birds, the mouths on his hands, etc. all have been tied to a japanese artist...somebody figured that out. the same ppl made a theory on the whole uchiha thing being tied to mythology or something like that.
basically what im saying is that this shouldn't be a surprise. the only thing that is lame to me is tobi supposedly being madara. i figured that madara was going to come into play but i thought it would be itachi, sasuke and tobi (who i thought was obito, the third sharingan user) bringing him back somehow for some reason.
BUT
itachi being driven to kill his village because he knows something that nobody else does about his clan, sparing his brother sasuke in hopes that he'd be able to kill or take on madara to rid their clan of evil and madara wanting to get the kyuubi makes better sense. IMO.
noodleman
07-27-2007, 09:57 AM
well, madara and tobi could still be two different entities (and still fit the Tobi = Obito theory). It's possible in obito's dying moments, madara as a spirit "took over" obito's body, similar to what orochimaru does.
It also could explain the opposite moods of tobi (cheerful vs evil), the buu, ubu name flip, as well as why Tobi is scared to fight (he not even aware that madara has taken over).
Markudea
07-27-2007, 10:24 AM
I hate to say this, but the end maybe near for Naruto's life when he challenges Madara Uchiha.
I hate to say this, but the end may by near for Naruto's life when he challenges Madara Uchiha.
lol no. what will happen is naruto will face him with a bunch of other ppl...for some reason naruto will go 9 tails and it'll be a huge fiasco.
naruto will end up winning for one reason or another. it'll probably look like naruto/itachi/sasuke/kakashi vs. uchiha madara and end up being naruto 9 tails vs. uchiha madara. he's going to end up using the full power he was given. i wouldn't be surprised if pein or BH ended up in the fight somehow. naruto's not dying for a min. if ever. madara will probably try to kill or successfully kill one of naruto's friends, causing him to go 9 tails or ask the fox to lend him his power, etc. etc.
catchafire
07-27-2007, 11:03 AM
When are they going to end the series? I mean, I can't take new bad guys popping out of nowhere. Soon, Madara is going to be some weakling and another uber bad guy is going to pop out of nowhere.
I can't stand series like this. It's kind of like Bleach, where there is an endless stream of bad guys. I need closure.
the series isn't going to close out yet...orochimaru will come back into play, kabuto will come back into play, the leader of the root will come back into play, sai will come into play as some sort of spy, naruto's parents have to be explained, akatsuki's true motives need to be revealed, naruto has to become the hokage, hinata and naruto have to get together, the same with shika and the sand girl, etc. the fourth has to be explained, too.
there's still too much story to tell for this to end after this arc. they don't have to necessarily make another stronger guy and so on...they could make it like everything is connected some kind of way. you defeat one evil but the other evil is connected to that...or a string of unfortunate events. the good nin in the leaf village are all gone looking for ONE PERSON. now's the time for root to attack, for example. civil war. get it? the akatsuki arc will be over then they could transition to that. etc. etc.
I can't stand series like this. It's kind of like Bleach, where there is an endless stream of bad guys. I need closure.
welcome to every shonen action anime ever.
series like naruto and bleach (dbz, one piece, etc.) are made for the long run. if you don't think there's going to be an endless stream of bad guys for the good guys to triumph over, you're watching the wrong show.
enjoy naruto (and its genre) for what it is, and this kind of thing won't bug you so much.
MagnusMadness
07-27-2007, 11:37 AM
Hmm...9 tailed naruto won't happen....4 tailed naruto drastically shortens his lifespan and the persona of the demon fox begins to take over. 9 tails would break the seal and the fox will be released....this I see happening. But in some weird twist of fate, the fox will side with naruto as his summon, him being the fox's only possible master.
Naruto doesn't have to become hokage in the series....that would mean tsunade's death IMO.....naruto still has a long way to go before becoming hokage....in age and experience. You might try and reference Gaara becoming the kazekage but this was largely an attempt to keep him under control, as they feared him, which is not the case with naruto.
When are they going to end the series? I mean, I can't take new bad guys popping out of nowhere. Soon, Madara is going to be some weakling and another uber bad guy is going to pop out of nowhere.
I can't stand series like this. It's kind of like Bleach, where there is an endless stream of bad guys. I need closure.
Bleach is by all accounts a shorter, more to the point series. I don't get it? It's nothing like naruto in that respect. Bleach is shinigami vs. hollows...fighting to save the world. Naruto is convoluted as hell. Nobody even knows why their fighting except sasuke. I'm pretty sure most of ataksuki don't even know who's calling the shots (wtf haha)
ShinAkumax
07-27-2007, 11:42 AM
I think a great deal of you lack in the intellect department.
who is stronger than naruto in the leaf village?
who has the will to protect other ppl and the qualities of a hokage?
naruto will eventually be the hokage. nobody else is qualified. kakashi will eventually be outclassed. rock, neji, etc. are side kicks so to speak of the main character. they are outclassed as well.
and you're crazy if you don't think we'll see naruto go 9 tails. its like saying we won't see rock lee break all the gates. it will eventually happen...its a matter of time. i agree that the fox will probably become naruto's summon or something equivalent to that. he will probably end up being released at some point. maybe. he could always use naruto as a host until he really needs to be summoned...then when the battle's finished he goes back inside of naruto.
i disagree with tsunade dying in order for naruto to be the hokage. the fourth died and who became the hokage? not somebody new, but an OLD hokage. tsunade already has a successor anyway (sakura) so if she passes then it'll benefit the series.
the age of the hokage doesn't matter, see the fourth, gaara, the third, etc.
Markudea
07-27-2007, 11:48 AM
The chapter 364 raw is out now:
- http://www.sendspace.com/file/mbpold
ShinAkumax
07-27-2007, 12:03 PM
who is stronger than naruto in the leaf village?
It's not about strenght.
he will probably end up being released at some point. maybe. he could always use naruto as a host until he really needs to be summoned...then when the battle's finished he goes back inside of naruto.
.
Like Ultraman? lol
An simpler explanation would also be, the 3rd got to serve under the 4th, it can be done by succesion.
It's not about strenght.
right, its about multiple qualities. don't just single out one part of my post.
if you've been reading naruto since the start, you'd know the guy has every quality needed to be hokage. he has the strength, the chakra, the love of ppl, the trust of ppl...he converts enemies to friends, etc.
i'm not saying that he's going to be hokage in chapter 365 but he will eventually become the hokage. ppl compared him to the fourth for a reason. there's way too much foreshadowing throughout the series for him not to become hokage one day.
and yeah, like ultra man, lol.
ShinAkumax
07-27-2007, 12:09 PM
Orochimaru is a Hokage, Garaa's dad was a Hokage. You can be a dick and still be Hokage. I bet you Sasuke becomes Hokage of the Leaf.
do you know what hokage means?
ShinAkumax
07-27-2007, 12:12 PM
You know what I meant.
and you know what i meant. you can't compare the leader of other villages to the leader of the leaf village. we don't know what sorts of requirements or whatever that those villages may have. obviously orochimaru founded and created the sound village. the kazekage could be choosen for any number of reasons.
we do know some of the qualities that a hokage needs to have though, from reading the manga and watching the anime.
ShinAkumax
07-27-2007, 12:19 PM
I'm just fucking with you man, Ultraman for the win! lol
Chapter 364: The goal...!
Itachi and Kisame stand somewhere, in the rain.
Kisame: Relentless, isn't it, this rain. Although it's quite odd, really, that we see such rain here, at this time of the year...
Itachi takes one step forward and looks up at the sky.
Kisame: Now now, you'll catch a cold like that.
Itachi continues to ignore him.
Kisame: Can't imagine what a cold-blood fellow such as yourself could be thinking at this time, but...if I didn't know better I'd say your shedding tears as if to say "it begins..."* I'm terribly sorry about your brother. The Uchiha clan is now down to you, I'm afraid.
*I might be wrong here. I'd need to see the actual manga. So take it with a pinch of salt.
Itachi: It isn't...
Kisame: ?
The downpour of rain becomes a trickle.
Itachi: He's not dead yet... and besides...
Kisame: Whatever do you mean?
We see Itachi's face reflected on a puddle of water.
Itachi: Seems the rain's stopped.
The scene switches to Team Hebi. They're at an Inn.
Sasuke: So, you guys manage to get useful info on Itachi?
Karin: Try sounding like our boss when you’re not all beat up, will ya!
Suigetsu: Well, there was lots to be found on "Akatsuki" itself, but nothing concrete on Uchiha Itachi.
Karin shrugs.
Suigetsu: But it seems they're looking for certain people...people with a special kind of chakra.
Sasuke: A special kind of chakra?
Juugo: I spoke to some animals, and learned the location of several of Akatsuki's hideouts*. In the area sorrounding the hideouts, a huge, unsettling chakra can always be felt. That's what the animals said.
*Yes, Juugo can speak to animals.
Suigetsu: Woah, ya don't say! Base creatures like animals can pick up chakra too...wait, no... they can pick it up because they're base - Just like Karin!
Karin: Come again!?
Suigetsu: Whoa!
Karin kicks Suigetsu in the face.
Suigetsu's face mutates into water.
Water spills over to Sasuke's face.
A bird escapes from Juugo's shoulder.
Juugo's body begins to tremble.
Karin: Suigetsu, you son of a bitch! This is the last straw!
Karin goes all out punching Suigetsu
Suigetsu: Hey! C'mon! Hold on!
Suigetsu's upper body mutates into water.
Juugo: Kill...need to kill...must kill...
Karin and Suigetsu: !
Sasuke: !
Juugo: Uoooooo!!!!
Suigetsu and Karin holod Juugo down.
Suigetsu: Holy s***! Juugo's impulse to kill's -
Karin: Sasuke, quickly!
Sasuke: Settle down, Juugo.
Sasuke activates his Sharigan.
Juugo begins to settle down (good boy!)
Juugo: I...sorry...
Karin, Suigetsu and Juugo: !
Sasuke's fallen asleep while sitting.
The scene changes to the site of the explosion.
Sakura: Naruto!
Yamato: Guess it caught everyone's attention*.
(*lit. looks like everyone's attention was caught so you we all came running).
Naruto: What happened!? (dattebayo! No, seriously.)
Sakura: Traces indicate Sasuke was here just a moment ago!
Naruto: !
Kiba: His scent is very faint, but it’s here. A lot of other scents linger as well.
Naruto: Whaddaya mean?
Shino: From the looks of it, it’s safe to assume we have a battleground here…
Ninken: I knew it! Save for one of the scents, the others are mingled with Sasuke’s…
Sakura: What?
Ninken: It seems there are people operating closely along side Sasuke. A posse, if you will.
Sakura: So back there...!
Sakura recalls the moment when she walked by Karin.
Kakashi: Most likely Sasuke's formed his own team. Of the other six scents, two belong to Akatsuki members, but the rest...
Naruto: Then what are we waiting for! We go after Sasuke's scent! (ttebayo!)
Ninken: Hold yer horses, Naruto We can't.
Naruto: What the? Why not!?
Kiba closes his eyes.
Kakashi: Their scents vanish here.
Naruto: Whaddaya mean?
Yamato: Typically, it would mean that either Sasuke was flung away without a trace by the explosion*, or he used space-time ninjutsu to teleport to another location.
*I had a lot of trouble with this line, so take it with a pinch of salt.
Kiba: From what I can tell... yeah, it's the latter.
Naruto: ?
Kiba: My nose right now's better than a Ninken's*! I'm on to ya, Sasuke!
*Ninken = ninja dog.
Kakashi: Better than a Ninken's, ey? ... You've come a long way in a short time, Kiba. That's the Inuzuka clan for ya!
Naruto: Lead the way, Kiba!
The scene switches to Akatsuki.
Puppet master: Uzumaki Naruto... he can no longer be dismissed as a mere brat. Not only is he equiped with powerful jutsu, but his comrades are numerous, as well. It won't be easy. He took out two of Kakuzu's hearts in a single blow, if you can believe that.
Girl: Your words of caution are unwarranted. Pain's yet to lose a single battle.
Puppet master: Heheh...well...there's no denying that. That'll be all. Have the other members pick up the pace in their hunt for the remaining Jinchuuriki.
Pain: No need to tell me that.
The Puppet master takes the Akatsuki coat that hung on the wall puts it on.
Puppet master: The time is finally at hand…and it won’t be long before our objective is achieved.
The cloudy sky grows ominous.
Puppet master: And then, all will return to it's rightful state.* (*Lit. it's original form, for those who wish to look deeply into the line).
It starts to rain, and lighting falls.
We see Tobi's face under the light.
Tobi: And Sharingan's true power... the power of I, Uchiha Madara will -!
Through the hole in his mask we see Sharingan.
Tobi disappears.
Girl: The heavens cry again... Pain... you...
Sidebar: A shocking truth is revealed by the light of the storm! (no pun intended). The one pulling Akatsuki's strings is Tobi...and his eye is a Sharingan! The third surviving Uchiha calls forth lighting!
Next issue: The strongest man in Akatsuki pursues Naruto! Next time (color pages), In pursuit of Itachi!
catchafire
07-27-2007, 01:17 PM
Yeah, the chase Sasuke theme WILL.NEVER.END!!!
Stabby
07-27-2007, 01:54 PM
I thought they caught all the fucking Jinchuruki?!
And dude doesn't seem to realize Naruto is still a fuckup. Yeah, he took out two of Kazuku's hearts-- after he tripped the first time.
catchafire
07-27-2007, 02:12 PM
Seriously, we've been trying to catch Sasuke for TWO.YEARS.NOW!!! Shit man, what the hell. Akatsuki is lame. They don't need to send their top gun to get Naruto. Shit, Itachi or Kisame isn't good enough?
Dj-DarK
07-27-2007, 02:27 PM
Scanlations are up at narutofan.
Pein needs to stomp some people out and make up for Hidan, Kakuzu, Sasori, and Deidara.
MAGUS1234
07-27-2007, 02:39 PM
why cant the all just teleport in a ring together and battle royal it?
Bowza
07-27-2007, 02:39 PM
I thought they caught all the fucking Jinchuruki?!
No cuz they tell you they haven't caught the 8th one and they haven't got naruto of course.
sonicspear64
07-27-2007, 02:59 PM
Dude they only captured like 4 out of 9 Jinchūriki....
Markudea
07-27-2007, 03:07 PM
The chapter 364 scan is out:
- http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/364/
Seriously, we've been trying to catch Sasuke for TWO.YEARS.NOW!!! Shit man, what the hell. Akatsuki is lame. They don't need to send their top gun to get Naruto. Shit, Itachi or Kisame isn't good enough?
Well if they sent Itachi/Kisame, that'd probably bring him, team hebi's, and team naruto's confrontation to a head, and I think Kishi wants to drag that out as much as possible.
gemdoom
07-27-2007, 05:37 PM
i hope theres a fight that drags out to the city.
Bowza
07-27-2007, 05:46 PM
Dude they only captured like 4 out of 9 Jinchūriki....
Nah they got 6
they still need naruto (the 9 tails), the four tails and..? i can't think of the other one.
gemdoom
07-27-2007, 06:11 PM
they have seven i think.
ReggieHadoken
07-27-2007, 06:37 PM
Naruto screwing up makes him that much more of a believable character. He isn't perfect but how many Chunin and Jonin's in Konoha can do the stuff Naruto can do?
Here are my thoughts on an ending to the series: I actually thought Naruto could get captured, have Kyuubi extracted from hin, get revived, Kyuubi goes on a rampage and Naruto pulls out all the stops to put him down. No sealing him inside an infant, none of that stuff. Naruto flat out ends his existence. After everything Naruto's been through, I think finally be free of that demon and being the one to kill it would be a pretty just reward.
Oh and I finally saw the anime of Zabuza's death. Man, that ep was so sad. :sad:
sonicspear64
07-27-2007, 06:41 PM
they still need naruto (the 9 tails), the four tails and..? i can't think of the other one.
the old man Kisame captured was the four tails. Keep in mind that they have to extract the biju out in order or whatever they're doing won't work. I'm only saying that they've captured and extracted 4 because there's Shukaku, the two-tailed cat, the weird three-tailed turtle thing, and the old man's biju. If you guys can think of the other ones if you think I'm wrong then that's fine.
Panicked
07-27-2007, 06:45 PM
snip
Naruto and the Kyuubi will become friends. Once Naruto takes down Madara, the man with the cursed Chakra, the Kyuubi will gain a new found respect for Naruto. Believe it.
Bowza
07-27-2007, 07:43 PM
the old man Kisame captured was the four tails. Keep in mind that they have to extract the biju out in order or whatever they're doing won't work. I'm only saying that they've captured and extracted 4 because there's Shukaku, the two-tailed cat, the weird three-tailed turtle thing, and the old man's biju. If you guys can think of the other ones if you think I'm wrong then that's fine.
They got like 2 before they captured gaara, thats what deidara said anyway(And thats proly why the king of hell whatever thing had 2 eyes open before it took the one tail)
sonicspear64
07-27-2007, 07:47 PM
^ah my fault:sweat:. They do have 7 but only 4 of them are known.
Bowza
07-27-2007, 07:49 PM
^ah my fault:sweat:. They do have 7 but only 4 of them are known.
but wouldn't those 2 plus the 4 that are known = 6?
sonicspear64
07-27-2007, 07:50 PM
nope there's 7... I forgot that there were 3 others but the I didn't know which ones so I didn't pay much attention to them.
Sacr3D
07-27-2007, 09:31 PM
Seriously, we've been trying to catch Sasuke for TWO.YEARS.NOW!!! Shit man, what the hell. Akatsuki is lame. They don't need to send their top gun to get Naruto. Shit, Itachi or Kisame isn't good enough?
I still don't get it why no one caught anyone in the timespan for almost 3 years. Oh umm we'll just leave Naruto alone for some years. DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH.
Ferdinandz
07-27-2007, 09:41 PM
The chapter 364 scan is out:
- http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/364/
wooo
looks like this series won't be ending for a while..can't wait to see obito fighting and that pain guy.
The anime is taking long as shit though..I don't even think they're done fighting sasori yet.
capcomANDsnk
07-27-2007, 09:48 PM
hmm check out the last frame. foreshadowing pain's power?
Power Man Fox
07-27-2007, 10:39 PM
I still don't get it why no one caught anyone in the timespan for almost 3 years. Oh umm we'll just leave Naruto alone for some years. DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH.
Jiraiya hype? Or, akatsuki mentioned they had a certain order in which they needed to seal the biju(sp) in the statue. There's only two left(?), 8 and 9 tails. I could see how they would take this long to get the locations of all their target's.
.o2
Edit~
hmm check out the last frame. foreshadowing pain's power?
Blue hair: "pein's never lost a match"
Can't wait to see the fighting! :)
Sacr3D
07-27-2007, 10:47 PM
I checked the latest ep of the anime and I found it funny how Naruto was furiously pursuing Deidara. Now , what would have happened if they actually fought ? Naruto would have died VERY fast. Unless if he transformed into Kyubi I guess... :rolleyes:
Panicked
07-27-2007, 10:53 PM
Blue hair: "pein's never lost a match"
Can't wait to see the fighting! :)
I think he means the reference to the "sky crying."
Gasaraki
07-27-2007, 10:57 PM
Wow, Tobi is Madara. Lame.
Edit: well, that or he's just Obito and saying that he's going to get Madara's power. If that's the case, I'm actaully slightly surprised just because it was SO obvious that Tobi would be Obito that I thought it wouldn't be.
bbq sauce
07-27-2007, 11:17 PM
the series isn't going to close out yet...orochimaru will come back into play, kabuto will come back into play, the leader of the root will come back into play, sai will come into play as some sort of spy, naruto's parents have to be explained, akatsuki's true motives need to be revealed, naruto has to become the hokage, hinata and naruto have to get together, the same with shika and the sand girl, etc. the fourth has to be explained, too.
there's still too much story to tell for this to end after this arc. they don't have to necessarily make another stronger guy and so on...they could make it like everything is connected some kind of way. you defeat one evil but the other evil is connected to that...or a string of unfortunate events. the good nin in the leaf village are all gone looking for ONE PERSON. now's the time for root to attack, for example. civil war. get it? the akatsuki arc will be over then they could transition to that. etc. etc.
->Giant Naruto/Kakashi/Sasuke/Itach/Madara brawl
-> loss of kyuubi, in one form or another
-> Possible end of Uchiha/Sharingan dominance
->End Akatsuki
-> Kabochimaru + danzo + sai + root vs Konoha
-> Konoha allies with Sand, maybe another village, vs Root + other former Konoha enemies who we've only seen/heard of in flash backs.. ie Cloud/Rock/Grass in what starts the next great ninja war
-> The 4th and his role in the last ninja war are explained.
-> Mad konoha heads die,
-> Naruto is to the current war (or more), as the 4th was to the last
-> more Naruto/Yondaime comparison/surpassing comments
-> Add some Jiraiya/Orochimaru/Tsunade closure
-> Tsunade either dies or steps down
-> Naruto becomes 6th Hokage.
-> End.
That's how I see it, I mean all of the above has either been referenced or foreshadowed, or just plain left open, and all fits together in my eyes.
MagnusMadness
07-28-2007, 06:52 AM
I'm just saying naruto doesn't HAVE to become hokage in the series!! You guys know as well as I do that the series could easily end with....
"he'll be a great hokage"
/end series.
We've seen stuff in series like this.
Just like two characters fall in love over the course of a series doesn't mean we'll see them get married and have kids.
Markudea
07-28-2007, 07:00 AM
The anime is taking long as shit though..I don't even think they're done fighting sasori yet.
Nope, the real fight has just started this week.
nameingway
07-28-2007, 07:16 AM
Naruto doesn't have to become hokage in the series....that would mean tsunade's death IMO.....naruto still has a long way to go before becoming hokage....in age and experience. You might try and reference Gaara becoming the kazekage but this was largely an attempt to keep him under control, as they feared him, which is not the case with naruto.
no, it doesn't; because the 3rd was alive while the 4th was hokage.
MagnusMadness
07-28-2007, 09:10 AM
just watched shippuuden 21 and I have to say...
Chakra strings are broken as fuck.
Chiyo moves another person around with chakra strings, then stops the attack of the other puppet with chakra strings at the same time.
What is the limit to what you can control with chakra strings? I think I could whip anybody's ass if I could control what they could do.
Asura
07-28-2007, 11:35 AM
Pain and Zetsu are grass ninjas correct? Have there been any other non filler grass ninjas? I'm kinda curious to see what they can do.
sonicspear64
07-28-2007, 11:58 AM
No... Pain is a rain village ninja. Rain looks like this: "l l l l". Grass is more like this: "/\/\/\/\". I don't know about Zetsu since he doesn't wear a headband but I think that he may be a grass ninja. Also, there were a couple grass ninja in the Chunin exams that Oro's team impersonated, but no important ninjas have been revealed.
catchafire
07-28-2007, 03:00 PM
Captain planet, daah, daa, daa ,daaah.... gonna... hmmm, hmmmm, daa , daaa, daaa daaa...
Monarc G.
07-28-2007, 06:00 PM
The akatsuki leader is Yondaime being control by someone!!
* Seriously*
He looks a lot like Yondaime and wtf, is toby uchiha madara or what?
Interesting, just interesting.
sainthuey
07-29-2007, 10:47 PM
The akatsuki leader is Yondaime being control by someone!!
* Seriously*
He looks a lot like Yondaime and wtf, is toby uchiha madara or what?
Interesting, just interesting.
Tobi is either Uchia Madara, or it's Uchia Obito. Both make sense, but in my opinion if it's Madara why would he walk around with a one eyed mask, plus compare Tobi's hair and Obito's hair, and during the fight with Deidara Tobi was being really goofy, something Obito did.
I'm hoping it's obito, that way when he fights kakashi it will be a really bad ass fight.
Edit: I doubt it's yondaime, Tobi is the leader, who the hell has the power to control the leader of akatsuki?? just seems impossible seeing how powerful a person has to be in order to be a member of AK.
4neqs
07-29-2007, 10:57 PM
Pain and Zetsu are grass ninjas correct? Have there been any other non filler grass ninjas? I'm kinda curious to see what they can do.
Pain is from the Rain (lol)
Non-filler? There were grass-nin in the Chuunin Exams but they were jobbers. I do believe Orochimaru killed one and masqueraded as him/her.
MagnusMadness
07-30-2007, 04:34 AM
Edit: I doubt it's yondaime, Tobi is the leader, who the hell has the power to control the leader of akatsuki?? just seems impossible seeing how powerful a person has to be in order to be a member of AK.
You do realize that the fourth was a fucking badass right? During the ninja wars if you encountered him it was auto retreat.
If he was around, he would own all of akatsuki at the same time.
I read a fan theory one time, (you probably all read the same one) that yondaime was calling the shots from inside the belly of death, and that he needed the tailed beasts to escape.
sainthuey
07-30-2007, 09:52 AM
You do realize that the fourth was a fucking badass right? During the ninja wars if you encountered him it was auto retreat.
If he was around, he would own all of akatsuki at the same time.
I read a fan theory one time, (you probably all read the same one) that yondaime was calling the shots from inside the belly of death, and that he needed the tailed beasts to escape.
:rofl: I still feel my obito theory makes the most sense, who else would logically wear a one eyed mask.
Anyway, we'll see when Tobi reveals himself if it's madara, obito or yondaime.
TheDarkPhoenix
07-30-2007, 10:08 AM
its tobi gone crazy thinking he's madara
bbq sauce
07-30-2007, 02:06 PM
Tobi is either Uchia Madara, or it's Uchia Obito. Both make sense, but in my opinion if it's Madara why would he walk around with a one eyed mask, plus compare Tobi's hair and Obito's hair, and during the fight with Deidara Tobi was being really goofy, something Obito did.
I'm hoping it's obito, that way when he fights kakashi it will be a really bad ass fight.
Edit: I doubt it's yondaime, Tobi is the leader, who the hell has the power to control the leader of akatsuki?? just seems impossible seeing how powerful a person has to be in order to be a member of AK.
Obito never really acted goofy in battle, he was mostly either being scared and crying, for fighting seriously.. So I really don't think it's obito.. I mean, what would be the reason to become evil?
And I doubt it's Madara, because the way Kyuubi spoke of him, makes me think he'd be really old.. As well as what he said at the end of 364, was "my power, Uchiha Madara's power" ..Why would he speak of himself like that? My guess is it's Uchiha Shisui, who may have faked his death.
sonicspear64
07-30-2007, 02:49 PM
Obito never really acted goofy in battle, he was mostly either being scared and crying, for fighting seriously.. So I really don't think it's obito.. I mean, what would be the reason to become evil?
And I doubt it's Madara, because the way Kyuubi spoke of him, makes me think he'd be really old.. As well as what he said at the end of 364, was "my power, Uchiha Madara's power" ..Why would he speak of himself like that? My guess is it's Uchiha Shisui, who may have faked his death.
That leaves so many plot-holes then. If Tobi was Shisui, then Itachi would never have the Mangekyou Sharingan in the first place.
This has me thinking though.... What if Tobi somehow got a hold of the Shisui's body after he was killed used his Sharingan eyes for transplantation? Scary shit :confused:...
bbq sauce
07-30-2007, 02:59 PM
That leaves so many plot-holes then. If Tobi was Shisui, then Itachi would never have the Mangekyou Sharingan in the first place.
This has me thinking though.... What if Tobi somehow got a hold of the Shisui's body after he was killed used his Sharingan eyes for transplantation? Scary shit :confused:...
Well maybe not faked his death.. but was killed and brought back? If you take note to the amount of years Itachi was in Akatsuki, it puts him at age 11 when he joined.
So he was still a Konoha nin when he joined. And has already been in for a while when Shisui was 'killed', and by then he'd have met Orochimaru. Maybe Shisui ran things all along? He had Itachi kill him, and Oro resurrect him, in order for Itachi to gain his MS.. and maybe then vic versa?
Who knows.. maybe Itachi gained his another way, I doubt Kakashi killed a friend for his MS..
Havoc
07-30-2007, 03:25 PM
Ummmm..... Kakashi has MS, and he didn't kill any friends.
It's already been established that you don't need to kill any friends to get MS, so all these bird-brain theories about Shishui can really just stop.
ShinAkumax
07-30-2007, 03:25 PM
:rofl: I still feel my obito theory makes the most sense, who else would logically wear a one eyed mask.
Anyway, we'll see when Tobi reveals himself if it's madara, obito or yondaime.
You think a guy that got half his body crushed under a big rock and had his good eye taken out makes the most sense uh?
Pimp Willy
07-30-2007, 03:36 PM
Tobi can phase. He was just playing dead because he was sick and tired of Kakashi ragging on him all the time about sucking, so he bailed on the leaf village and started Akatsuki.
About a plausable as a lot of the stuff going on these days ; )
sonicspear64
07-30-2007, 03:41 PM
Ummmm..... Kakashi has MS, and he didn't kill any friends.
It's already been established that you don't need to kill any friends to get MS, so all these bird-brain theories about Shishui can really just stop.
Been established you say? I understand where you're coming from, but Kakashi's MS is different and he can't do true MS techniques. Kakashi may have developed his, but I think you still need to kill a friend to get a true MS. So I guess you can train your Sharingan eye like Kakashi for a couple years or kill a best friend.. the choice is yours!!!:tup:
ShinAkumax
07-30-2007, 03:42 PM
You guys do know that they call him the copy ninja right?
Rodimus
07-30-2007, 04:02 PM
Damn man, ive been just checking out Naruto forums all over the net and the world of naruto is in an uproar..lol
364=One of the best chapters ever.
Im just taking everything new at face value until its explained fully.
Tobi is Madara=awesome. In a way i wanted him to be Obito but I like it like this.
So what if he's old, im sure being the Aizen Uchiha that he's figured out how to maintain his physical fitness.
My only ?uestions now is Naruto and company better brainwash Kabuto to figure out a edo tensei for the 4th. Cause other than him who is touching Madara. 9 tails is crazy shook just off his name.
We are about to see more konoha deaths real talk. Kiba=done shoot kakashi and Yamato aint safe. It's like the slums of shaolin about to jump off teams better protect they necks!
Im scared for Naruto right now. Is he just gonna run at Pein?! or stop in his tracks asking why that dude looks like his older brother?
Sasuke's hurt up too--damn. Plus on top of all this chaos--that beast named itachi is silent.
damn do i really wanna see Pein fight now?
Might as well find that dude from the filler Raiga cause there's gonna be a funeral party!!
ShinAkumax
07-30-2007, 04:08 PM
I strongly disagree with everything you just said.
Rodimus
07-30-2007, 04:39 PM
I strongly disagree with everything you just said.
Care to discuss why? I saw your post about kakashi being the copy ninja. He's my favorite character but He can't compete with Itachi or Madara.
I think even with K's version of Mangekyou Sharingan he could prolly put up a decent fight but only for a limited time, Since he's not an Uchiha his stamina will deplete leading to his demise.
He's my boy but i couldn't take reading him getting owned by Itachi let alone watching him get owned by Itachi.
Shin tell me what you think is gonna go down when Pein shows up? Or how Kakashi can compete with the other Uchihas.
Ferdinandz
07-30-2007, 04:47 PM
364=One of the best chapters ever.
I agree with this.Only thing missing? Sai.
Rodimus
07-30-2007, 05:58 PM
I agree with this.Only thing missing? Sai.
I strongly agree with everything you said.
ShinAkumax
07-30-2007, 06:03 PM
I'll be back!
MagnusMadness
07-30-2007, 06:18 PM
where is the best place to get the manga....and what chapter is the fight between sasori and chiyo/sakura start? I'm tired of the anime but if I picked up the manga now I think I'm missing alot. I also don't want to download it, as I usually get on the computer at my parents or at work, so somewhere where I can just view would be great...
nameingway
07-30-2007, 07:58 PM
here's hoping for gai to come out of nowhere (with rock lee assist) with DYNAMIC ENTRY! this, of course, should be followed by them both opening the gates and going beast mode on some fools.
Dj-DarK
07-30-2007, 08:03 PM
where is the best place to get the manga....and what chapter is the fight between sasori and chiyo/sakura start? I'm tired of the anime but if I picked up the manga now I think I'm missing alot. I also don't want to download it, as I usually get on the computer at my parents or at work, so somewhere where I can just view would be great...
264 for the start of the battle.
KillerKai
07-30-2007, 11:49 PM
They say Pein has never lost a battle. That could mean a lot of things. He could have won 800 fights with midgets. Or they could establish him as a badass by listing some of the other strong ninja he has beaten or offed. I'm going to go out on a limb and say Itachi might have been one of the guys he beat before Itachi joined AK. If they end up doing something like that, that would give Pein some serious badass street cred.
sainthuey
07-31-2007, 12:11 AM
Damn man, ive been just checking out Naruto forums all over the net and the world of naruto is in an uproar..lol
364=One of the best chapters ever.
Im just taking everything new at face value until its explained fully.
Tobi is Madara=awesome. In a way i wanted him to be Obito but I like it like this.
So what if he's old, im sure being the Aizen Uchiha that he's figured out how to maintain his physical fitness.
My only ?uestions now is Naruto and company better brainwash Kabuto to figure out a edo tensei for the 4th. Cause other than him who is touching Madara. 9 tails is crazy shook just off his name.
We are about to see more konoha deaths real talk. Kiba=done shoot kakashi and Yamato aint safe. It's like the slums of shaolin about to jump off teams better protect they necks!
Im scared for Naruto right now. Is he just gonna run at Pein?! or stop in his tracks asking why that dude looks like his older brother?
Sasuke's hurt up too--damn. Plus on top of all this chaos--that beast named itachi is silent.
damn do i really wanna see Pein fight now?
Might as well find that dude from the filler Raiga cause there's gonna be a funeral party!!
Actually it's not Madara, I'm really doubting it's Madara, a lot of internet bullshit has surfaced about it being Madara, madara isn't even a character really if it was tobi he would at least have a face in the story(no pun intended:rofl:).
Obito was developed, and is the only person that we know has sharringan and can be alive(beside sasuke, kaka, and itachi), even though we know he was killed we've seen some wild stuff, it's possible obito is alive, it's defintley possible. I mean look at his hand on the last page of 364 you can see it looks deformed, plus there is some metal rods hanging from his body in the picture too...hmm?
MAGUS1234
07-31-2007, 12:13 AM
maybe he was made by dead uciha ppl?
Azrael
07-31-2007, 12:27 AM
I hope that Tobi being an Uchiha starts to explain the whole mystery of the Uchiha clan, which is one of the only plot points Naruto has going for it right now.
Zachman
07-31-2007, 03:36 AM
Obito is dead.
EVARGNUG
07-31-2007, 05:05 AM
Obito is dead.
Nah, he's still alive...just like Elvis.
Nah, he's still alive...just like Elvis.
*coughTupaccough*
MagnusMadness
07-31-2007, 05:32 AM
um why is everybody like "it ain't madara, can't be blah blah" when in the manga, it said he was. Did I miss something?
Markudea
07-31-2007, 06:11 AM
I hope that Tobi being an Uchiha starts to explain the whole mystery of the Uchiha clan, which is one of the only plot points Naruto has going for it right now.
You're right... I realized that some people weren't pleased about there being another Uchiha in the picture, but the Uchihas are what's making this anime good imo.
um why is everybody like "it ain't madara, can't be blah blah" when in the manga, it said he was. Did I miss something?
No. You didn't miss anything... Tobi is indeed Madara Uchiha.
JustBeenIced
07-31-2007, 08:02 AM
They say Pein has never lost a battle. That could mean a lot of things. He could have won 800 fights with midgets. Or they could establish him as a badass by listing some of the other strong ninja he has beaten or offed. I'm going to go out on a limb and say Itachi might have been one of the guys he beat before Itachi joined AK. If they end up doing something like that, that would give Pein some serious badass street cred.
Whow Whoa, buddy, yes it would give him great street credit but after all the hype that has been built around Itachi, i doubt very much they would just say Pain defeated Itachi.
A draw perhaps, or maybe Itachi just digs the real plot of akasuki or he was just promised more power. But to defeat Itachi is carrying it a bit too far
KillerKai
07-31-2007, 08:56 AM
True true. But I always wondered why Itachi would take orders from Pein if he could fuck Pein's ass up. Right now, they probably will try to establish Pein as probably the first character who is clearly stronger than Itachi.
ShinAkumax
07-31-2007, 09:23 AM
Garaa's never been hurt. You guys are idiots.
Kira Yamato
07-31-2007, 11:20 AM
um why is everybody like "it ain't madara, can't be blah blah" when in the manga, it said he was. Did I miss something?
Tobi said the power of uchiha madara, not I'm uchiha madara... so I figure he's referring to the power of the sharingan. Makes more sense that tobi is obito cuz why else would he be wearing a mask with one eye which coincidentally is covering the eye that kakashi has the sharingan eye on.
bbq sauce
07-31-2007, 01:47 PM
Well, I guess my ideas about shisui are wrong.
Tobi =Uchiha Madara.
Proof (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16010)
At the bottom
*UPDATED AND VERY IMPORTANT NOTE. If anyone decides to use this translation for scanlating, I suggest the group retain the following explanatory note. Originally, I'd stated the line above was terminated in mid sentence, Nihongaeri's take on it (see his post below) made infinitely more sense than my own (God bless him!). Anyhow, basically what the character is saying is that once Akatsuki achieves its objective, Sharingan shall regain its original, ostensibly more powerful form, and thus, so will he, Uchiha Madara. In other words, among the things which will regain their original form are the Sharingan's true power and his own. 全てが本来の形に戻るのだ。, where 全て=写輪眼の本当の力やうちはマダラの力など。As for whether or not the character speaking is Uchiha Madara, as to this, there is no doubt. This part, このうちはマダラの力, has been construed by some to mean "this power, the power of Uchiha Madara." They're reading it like this: この うちはマダラの力。The way they should be reading it is like this: このうちはマダラの 力。When この precedes the name of a person (in this case, Uchiha Madara), the person referenced is the speaker himself. It's a way for the speaker to indicate that he or she is a real big deal (in his or her mind, anyway). And no, it's not a "vague" sentence, or one which could be read both ways: the way we're indicating here is the only way to interpret the sentence, at least as far as whether the speaker is Uchiha Madara or not. Whether Madara is possessing someone else's body or if Tobi's just a robot through which his voice comes out,is another matter altogether.
Rodimus
07-31-2007, 01:48 PM
Actually it's not Madara, I'm really doubting it's Madara, a lot of internet bullshit has surfaced about it being Madara, madara isn't even a character really if it was tobi he would at least have a face in the story(no pun intended:rofl:).
Obito was developed, and is the only person that we know has sharringan and can be alive(beside sasuke, kaka, and itachi), even though we know he was killed we've seen some wild stuff, it's possible obito is alive, it's defintley possible. I mean look at his hand on the last page of 364 you can see it looks deformed, plus there is some metal rods hanging from his body in the picture too...hmm?
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How can u say Madara isn't a character? He was Introduced by the 9-tails. The 9tails told Sasuke that his sharingan was just like Madara. We think he might be the other statue facing Shodai. Then the only plot hole would be age, but im thinking Uchihas basically run the manga so the God Uchiha should be able to stay young.
I like obito too, but until Kakashi says "Obito what happend to you? i thought you died after giving me your eye."
then the character tobi is done. Its Uchiha Madara, who wanted to see Sasuke's potential up close.
Aiight now we all have our own theories about the manga. but im taking it face value. Until somebody clearly states different.
Im going by this= "The sharingan's true power, Mypower.. Uchiha Madara's power"
Tobi=Madara, until its confirmed he's somebody else. Im not going by the internet nerds or rumors. If somebody speaks Japanese and translated those lines meaning that? then that's what imma go by.
I do like all the discussions but tobi=Madara/ obito=dead. until i get a disclaimer from kishimoto..lol.
My questions are, somebody as loyal and as commited to trying to live up to his clan why would he go evil? Itachi ok, but Obito no way. thats like Naruto being evil, even when he's tailed up he's trying to merc somebody evil.
This is why 364=one of the best chapters!
Also ShinAkumax
Bro i respect everybody's thoughts and views on any topic. but to say Gaara's never been hurt. that is a false statement. Naruto hurt him, Rock Lee hurt him--i almost forget Akatsuki merc'd him.
being dead is a higher tier of hurt man.
and Kira
the chapter i have tobi is saying
"The sharingan's true power, Mypower.. Uchiha Madara's power"
let's discuss more ppl!!
Rodimus
07-31-2007, 01:58 PM
Reps bbq++ I was just about to post the translated chapter i have and this updated piece.
I have no problems with tobi=Madara. I need nins to be like 2 tiers stronger than itachi. to be giving him orders.
okay so nins stronger than Itachi= jiraiya..lol, Pein, 4th, Madara
KillerKai:
Hopefully we get a sick flashback of pein handling itachi..lol. or will Itachi continue to run other peeps flashbacks..lol.
be'z
noodleman
07-31-2007, 01:58 PM
i think the japanese text was vague on purpose...Tobi could be referring to somehow attaining Madara's power (which imo makes more sense). Translators had said that that's how evil guys generally talk (in the third person), but the line can be taken either way if you do a direct translation (he actually says "THIS" power).
scoping on the sasuke makes alot of sense..it would explain why Tobi basically did nothing for that whole battle (other then laying mines).
I think the Obito = Tobi = Madara theory could still work together. Considering Kishi likes to introduce new stuff and reuse them (elemental chakra anyone?). He just showed Kabuto/Oro merge...it's very possible he used this again to make Tobi (Obito + Madara).
ShinAkumax
07-31-2007, 02:01 PM
You didn't get my meaning. That's what was said of him when he was introduced to the series. People always get built up. I know Garaa's been hurt.
Kira Yamato
07-31-2007, 02:02 PM
could be that tobi obito and thinks he's uchiha madara since he gots brain damage and possible split personalities
Dj-DarK
07-31-2007, 02:09 PM
Why can't people get over the fact that Obito is dead? People wanted to know how Kakashi got his eye and Kishimoto gave em Obito.
All these theories about Obito being Tobi are just plain ridiculous.
bbq sauce
07-31-2007, 02:15 PM
i think the japanese text was vague on purpose...Tobi could be referring to somehow attaining Madara's power (which imo makes more sense). Translators had said that that's how evil guys generally talk (in the third person), but the line can be taken either way if you do a direct translation (he actually says "THIS" power).
scoping on the sasuke makes alot of sense..it would explain why Tobi basically did nothing for that whole battle (other then laying mines).
I think the Obito = Tobi = Madara theory could still work together. Considering Kishi likes to introduce new stuff and reuse them (elemental chakra anyone?). He just showed Kabuto/Oro merge...it's very possible he used this again to make Tobi (Obito + Madara).
Translator directly says, though, in that case, the name spoken is the speakers name. So -
Tobi = Madara
Madara is Speaking thru the body of an unknown Uchiha. Obito possibly.
Some unknown Uchiha is highly confused and convinced they are Madara.
Or MAYBE, and it's a stretch, some unknown, living, Uchiha has adopted the name Madara.
sainthuey
07-31-2007, 02:26 PM
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How can u say Madara isn't a character? He was Introduced by the 9-tails. The 9tails told Sasuke that his sharingan was just like Madara. We think he might be the other statue facing Shodai. Then the only plot hole would be age, but im thinking Uchihas basically run the manga so the God Uchiha should be able to stay young.
:rofl::rofl: Madara isn't even a character, his name has been mentioned twice, he doesn't even have a physical face in the story(no punt intended). As far as the 2 statues that naruto and sasuke fought on, that was un confirmed if it was a statue of madara, I remember kakashi saying no one knows who the two statues where.
Just because obito was crushed by rocks doesn't mean he is dead, we've seen some crazy shit, anything is possible really. If it really is Madara they are going to have to introduce him. Tobi especially wearing that mask with the eye hole on the right hand side makes it seem even more like obito. Doesn't make sense for madara to even walk around with a mask on.
DarkCat
07-31-2007, 02:34 PM
Kyuubi saying something about Madara and then him showing up can't be coincidence. There's also the thing about Obito not being in the anime at all yet, so unless they plan on doing the Kakashi Gaiden thing, anime only people wouldn't even know who Obito was/is.
noodleman
07-31-2007, 02:55 PM
Translator directly says, though, in that case, the name spoken is the speakers name. So -
Tobi = Madara
Madara is Speaking thru the body of an unknown Uchiha. Obito possibly.
Some unknown Uchiha is highly confused and convinced they are Madara.
Or MAYBE, and it's a stretch, some unknown, living, Uchiha has adopted the name Madara.
yea, i just read your post before about the translation. While I have a great deal of trust on the translators, i'm still not sold. They probably have more experience than me in Japanese (i can understand a decent amount). If you did a direct translation, it could be read as both ways.
But even the translator mentioned that even in the context that he's speaking as Madara, Tobi (a revived Obito) could just be a vassal for Madara.
Either way, Kishi is ultimately the writer, so the thing can go either way.
pimp2303
07-31-2007, 02:59 PM
Because of this last chapter i dont even think itachi killed the uchihas. He could have just took credit for it just cause he realized sasuke was better. Maybe madara did it. It would make more sense.
bbq sauce
07-31-2007, 03:16 PM
@ noodleman.. that's what I think is the most likely case.
Madara channeling himself through some other Uchiha character. I don't think it's Obito, because as said above, if they wanted to bring Obito into the current arc, they'd most likely have animated the Kakashi Gaiden.. And if Madara is capable of inhabiting a corpse, you'd think he'd choose a stronger Uchiha body.
EVARGNUG
07-31-2007, 04:52 PM
All you niggas talkin' bout how Tobi can't be Obito and is Uchiha Madara instead are illogical.
Just because he said his own name aloud doesn't necessarily mean he is that nigga of which he spoke, which would happen to be himself.
Madara? Nigga plz.
Mickey D'
07-31-2007, 05:10 PM
This thread = A bunch of dogs barking
RUFF RUFF RUFF!!!!
Monarc G.
07-31-2007, 05:12 PM
Whoa!...Guys heres something missing, are the leader and pain the only ones knowing that toby is a fake? I wanna know if itachi and the others are getting fool by this or what?
Azrael
07-31-2007, 05:16 PM
As a Japanese speaker, I wouldn't say 100% that Tobi = Madara. While that's the likely outcome, I don't think it's as clear cut, without a doubt as the other translator seems to think. Which is why, for the moment, the only conclusions I'll draw about Tobi is that he's an Uchiha at least.
I think people want Tobi to be Obito because it makes more sense - a character with established backstory whose presence would deeply affect at least one of the other characters (Kakashi), and who has reason to bear a grudge especially against Konoha. Uchiha Madara at this point is just a random name pulled out of the air - it could be Uchiha Shisui or Uchiha Billy Bob or Uchiha Ramalamadingdong, we really don't know jack shit about the character other than its an Uchiha who, instead of being dead, is alive and really evil.
catchafire
07-31-2007, 05:55 PM
Azrael, why don't you fansub?
Azrael
07-31-2007, 06:11 PM
Lots of additional work in my precious and fleeting spare time with no pay and little gratitude? I'll pass, thanks.
Thongboy Bebop
07-31-2007, 06:19 PM
Hey Az, a couple of days ago at work I was talking about something random you did, and this girl that just started there goes "OH SHIT YOU KNOW THAT GUY? OMGWTF WHAT'S HE LIKE CAN I HAVE YOUR BABIES?!?"
It's official, you're famous.
N
EVARGNUG
07-31-2007, 06:25 PM
[bluesy piano riff]
Put on my Blue Ninja Shoes
And I started to train
Touched down in the land of the greenish hues
in the middle of the pouring rain
Arashi Kazama
Won't you look down over me
Yeah I got a first class headband
But as I'm blue as a boy can be
Saw the ghost of Obito...
4neqs
07-31-2007, 06:47 PM
LOL.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/53889290/
Just in time for the reunion tour too.
Azrael
07-31-2007, 07:13 PM
Hey Az, a couple of days ago at work I was talking about something random you did, and this girl that just started there goes "OH SHIT YOU KNOW THAT GUY? OMGWTF WHAT'S HE LIKE CAN I HAVE YOUR BABIES?!?"
It's official, you're famous.
N
I'm not famous until the groupies actually start coming to *me*. It's not fair that you're getting babies for all my hard work.
I'm gonna be back in America in September, and I want at least one woman to brazenly offer herself to me. ...And for her not to be 400 pounds.
The Epidemic
07-31-2007, 07:16 PM
LOL.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/53889290/
Just in time for the reunion tour too.
cute...
bbq sauce
07-31-2007, 07:17 PM
As a Japanese speaker, I wouldn't say 100% that Tobi = Madara. While that's the likely outcome, I don't think it's as clear cut, without a doubt as the other translator seems to think. Which is why, for the moment, the only conclusions I'll draw about Tobi is that he's an Uchiha at least.
I think people want Tobi to be Obito because it makes more sense - a character with established backstory whose presence would deeply affect at least one of the other characters (Kakashi), and who has reason to bear a grudge especially against Konoha. Uchiha Madara at this point is just a random name pulled out of the air - it could be Uchiha Shisui or Uchiha Billy Bob or Uchiha Ramalamadingdong, we really don't know jack shit about the character other than its an Uchiha who, instead of being dead, is alive and really evil.
1) Konoha isn't the main focus of the Akatsuki, the entire world is.
2) Obito doesn't have a reason to bear any grudge against Konoha. He died fighting for his friends. If he was the kind of person who'd hold a grudge over that, he wouldn't have gone after Rin, when Kakashi wouldn't, and he wouldn't have given Kakashi his eye.
Obito was a character created for the sole purpose of shedding light on Kakashi's past.
Just because he said his own name aloud doesn't necessarily mean he is that nigga of which he spoke, which would happen to be himself.
Madara? Nigga plz.
So you're trying to say, he might not be himself?
The illogicality is that people think a character created just to die, in an extended flashback, is more likely to be the main villain in what is probably the climax of this series.. JUST because they happen to have similar hair, and a one eyed mask..
Rather than believe a character who we know nothing of, other than his name, and that he was foreshadowed as being evil and more accursed than the kyuubi could be Tobi, after he called himself that.
Why would Kishi foreshadow such a person, to simply not use him?
Thongboy Bebop
07-31-2007, 07:23 PM
I'm not famous until the groupies actually start coming to *me*. It's not fair that you're getting babies for all my hard work.
I'm gonna be back in America in September, and I want at least one woman to brazenly offer herself to me. ...And for her not to be 400 pounds.
You gonna be anywhere near LA? I swear on my eyes, I can hook you up.
N
ViciousSLASH
07-31-2007, 07:26 PM
Sharigan = Saiyens?
Discuss.
I thought of this before getting hamburgers today.
dereklearnslow
07-31-2007, 07:43 PM
I'm rooting for Uchiha Ramalamadingdong
ShinAkumax
07-31-2007, 07:46 PM
Sharigan = Saiyens?
Discuss.
I thought of this before getting hamburgers today.
Magneto and Wolverine vs Sharinga
If not the same as
Saiyen vs Magneto and Wolverine.
So not in power levels.
ViciousSLASH
07-31-2007, 07:56 PM
Magneto and Wolverine vs Sharinga
If not the same as
Saiyen vs Magneto and Wolverine.
So not in power levels.
In terms of story power levels, yeah, Magneto would be peeing himself in a crib before the fight even started because they are absolutely broken.
There's 4 Sharigans users and four main saiyens in the DBZ story line, they are the main races that drive each series, the comparison kinda writes itself.
EVARGNUG
07-31-2007, 08:08 PM
So you're trying to say, he might not be himself?
The illogicality is that people think a character created just to die, in an extended flashback, is more likely to be the main villain in what is probably the climax of this series.. JUST because they happen to have similar hair, and a one eyed mask..
Rather than believe a character who we know nothing of, other than his name, and that he was foreshadowed as being evil and more accursed than the kyuubi could be Tobi, after he called himself that.
Why would Kishi foreshadow such a person, to simply not use him?
My post you've referenced is just one big satire...in fact, it bleeds of it. Everything you've said above is pretty much what I really think, though.
Azrael
07-31-2007, 08:15 PM
You gonna be anywhere near LA? I swear on my eyes, I can hook you up.
N
SF. But if that's the case, then perhaps a road trip to LA is in order.
Sharigan = Saiyens?
Discuss.
I thought of this before getting hamburgers today.
I'd thought of that a few days ago. Sasuke = Vegeta. Itachi = Freeza, if Freeza were a Saiyajin.
Thongboy Bebop
07-31-2007, 10:05 PM
Moving this to the Lounge before it gets too racy for the Naruto demographic, haha.
N
Rodimus
07-31-2007, 10:37 PM
:rofl::rofl: Madara isn't even a character, his name has been mentioned twice, he doesn't even have a physical face in the story(no punt intended). As far as the 2 statues that naruto and sasuke fought on, that was un confirmed if it was a statue of madara, I remember kakashi saying no one knows who the two statues where.
Just because obito was crushed by rocks doesn't mean he is dead, we've seen some crazy shit, anything is possible really. If it really is Madara they are going to have to introduce him. Tobi especially wearing that mask with the eye hole on the right hand side makes it seem even more like obito. Doesn't make sense for madara to even walk around with a mask on.
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Kakashi doesnt mention the statue that Sasuke is standing on but,
we know the other statue is the 1st hokage. Saying Madara isnt a character is like saying Shunsui isnt a character. Once a character mentions another *new* person that new *person or name* is a character. The 9tails said Madara's name bro. Madara's face is hidden he's a ninja for christ sake..lol.
They have already introduced Madara. In the manga 9tails says his name Sasuke confirms not knowing who that uchiha is. Then Madara re-introduces hisself to us. what more do you need Madara wit a mic over a just blaze track..saying allow me to reintroduce mself my name is Madara..lol.
Just explain to me why Obito would be evil?
Now what's easier is Madara. Lets say he's the other statue okay he's the nicest Uchiha but Shodai the first hokage folded him up something serious. Then created Konoha--leaving a defeated Madara to loathe the fact that his clan has to police the village that he and his clan could have founded. Now that's hate!! Its like Madara was Starscream and Shodai was Megatron.
You look at your peeps, write secret documents about how to regain your position as the top nins in the world and you leak the info to Uchihas you think can surpass you. You then bounce..to start another clan of nins akatsuki.
Itachi was just stating how Madara prolly felt. dissappointed at the clan for just being cops in the village that the 1st hokage founded.
Is it cool for tobi to be obito yes. but maybe if it was shown to me in the manga but it wasnt. I saw Obito as nothing but good--, he's loyal to his friends why hate konoha? why go evil? he gave his life for not one but 2 of them.
damn, one chapter did all this damage..lol.
be'z
hamstar
07-31-2007, 11:02 PM
アズラエルめ以外と不甲斐ない。
ya as a japanese speaker I also cant say 100% that tobi = madara. I think tobi is referencing the sharingan as something that madara uchiha has. It maybe the case that tobi is referencing himself or a uchiha that lived long ago.
But when I went on the net 90% of Japanese posters have already accepted tobi=madara.
I just dont get it though because madara is someone really old that even the kyuubi knew. Also why does tobi have a hole for his right eye? There has to be a reasoning for this. The only way all of us to be really sure is ya....for tobi to say "im madara YOU N00BS! "
sainthuey
07-31-2007, 11:18 PM
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Kakashi doesnt mention the statue that Sasuke is standing on but,
we know the other statue is the 1st hokage. Saying Madara isnt a character is like saying Shunsui isnt a character. Once a character mentions another *new* person that new *person or name* is a character. The 9tails said Madara's name bro. Madara's face is hidden he's a ninja for christ sake..lol.
They have already introduced Madara. In the manga 9tails says his name Sasuke confirms not knowing who that uchiha is. Then Madara re-introduces hisself to us. what more do you need Madara wit a mic over a just blaze track..saying allow me to reintroduce mself my name is Madara..lol.
Just explain to me why Obito would be evil?
Now what's easier is Madara. Lets say he's the other statue okay he's the nicest Uchiha but Shodai the first hokage folded him up something serious. Then created Konoha--leaving a defeated Madara to loathe the fact that his clan has to police the village that he and his clan could have founded. Now that's hate!! Its like Madara was Starscream and Shodai was Megatron.
You look at your peeps, write secret documents about how to regain your position as the top nins in the world and you leak the info to Uchihas you think can surpass you. You then bounce..to start another clan of nins akatsuki.
Itachi was just stating how Madara prolly felt. dissappointed at the clan for just being cops in the village that the 1st hokage founded.
Is it cool for tobi to be obito yes. but maybe if it was shown to me in the manga but it wasnt. I saw Obito as nothing but good--, he's loyal to his friends why hate konoha? why go evil? he gave his life for not one but 2 of them.
damn, one chapter did all this damage..lol.
be'z
Madara = Tobi is just speculation, same with obito. Obito just makes more sense:rofl:. We don't even know who Madara is, I don't recall him being mentioned as the founder of Uchiha clan? What chapter is that in?. I rememeber sasuke meeting the 9tails yes and madara was mentioned, but other then that and last chapter I don't recall ever reading about him.
I think another possibility is maybe someone ressurected obito from his death or from the grave, but in return he had to sell his soul(figuratively) to someone or something?....Just another possibility I thought of.
Peace
Mickey D'
07-31-2007, 11:44 PM
Sharigan = Saiyens?
Discuss.
I thought of this before getting hamburgers today.
STop thinking of Naruto dude. Seriously
ViciousSLASH
08-01-2007, 12:15 AM
STop thinking of Naruto dude. Seriously
Do you want to fist fight over the internet?
Because we can.
Azrael
08-01-2007, 01:21 AM
Having Tobi be Madara actually doesn't make a whole lot of sense. All Uchiha's are supposed to be dead save for Itachi and Sasuke, but - oops! Missed one. Even if Itachi didn't cut him down, dude's, what, really, really old? And then he decides to join his own group and fumble around for a bit...because he really liked Deidara? And when you get right down to it, all we know about "Madara" is that Kyuubi gave him props.
We're all hoping it does make sense because maybe it will start to explain the Uchiha clan, which is really the only decent plot point left in the series. Was it Madara who coerced Itachi to go from the prodigal son to clan killer and Akatsuki? Is this what Sasuke found out that made him even more emo? Why do they want tailed beasts anyway?
As I said, with that wording, Tobi probably is Madara...but I wouldn't drop 100% on it.
And why would Obito become evil? That wouldn't be very hard. He survives the cave in, and is captured by rock ninjas. They keep him captive and torture him for information over the years. They warp his mind with genjitsu, making him think that Kakashi and Rin took his eye and left him behind, abandoned him. Obito becomes twisted over the years and blames Konoha and Kakashi for his predicament. It's been done thousands of times. 24 fans can think back to Stephen Saunders from S3.
Wut_da_Heck
08-01-2007, 02:51 AM
Hypotheotically speaking,
Obito is the leader of Akatsuki, but with Madara's power, because Madara also knows how to perform the soul transfer technique that Orochimaru knows of. In fact, Madara was the one who taught Orochi how to do that when he was part of Akatsuki.
With his body dying, he finds Obitos corpse and transfers his powers to him because of his young age and his connections with Yondaime........
Adam Warlock
08-01-2007, 03:31 AM
Can we stop posting shit just to post it now? Seriously. The last few pages have been like reading kindergarten fan fiction. It would be cool if you were building on something, but most of you aren't. You're posting fabricated theories just to say "look, I could still be right!" or pray for a pre-emptive "I told you so!" when there really isn't any evidence to support it. If you're making the facts fit your theory rather than forming a theory to fit your facts its probably not true.
Ferdinandz
08-01-2007, 04:09 AM
Hehe amen to that.
Robust
08-01-2007, 04:41 AM
Can we stop posting shit just to post it now? Seriously. The last few pages have been like reading kindergarten fan fiction. It would be cool if you were building on something, but most of you aren't. You're posting fabricated theories just to say "look, I could still be right!" or pray for a pre-emptive "I told you so!" when there really isn't any evidence to support it. If you're making the facts fit your theory rather than forming a theory to fit your facts its probably not true.
more truth has never been spoken.
Chaotic Blue
08-01-2007, 06:15 AM
it seems like its hard for everyone to accept that tobi is uchiha madara. (Itchi said in the begining that there were 3 mangekyo sharingan users from the start. Madara is that last one. And I'm sure Itachi knew about tobi from the start. Since he's the third user and he menchened him in the flashback. Tobi = Uchiha Madara. Besides, I can't see Itachi gettin beat by anyone who doesn't have mangekyo sharingan.
MagnusMadness
08-01-2007, 06:29 AM
I really hope that akatsuki's purpose isn't just to get a more powerful sharingan. I would quit naruto if that's really it. That doesn't even make sense, because tobi and itachi would be the only ones to benefit from that.
catchafire
08-01-2007, 08:58 AM
I originally thought the purpose of Akatsuki is strengthen all members by giving them an animal's power. However, members are dying to fast that I don't really see a point to this. There really isn't a clear objective.
noodleman
08-01-2007, 09:05 AM
i don't think that's been the case the whole time...it wouldn't have made sense, since they have already captured a few bijuu's and they don't seem to be doing a whole lot with them.
Itachi also mentioned that they had to capture them in order...so doesn't sound like they're going to give each of them a bijuu.
I originally thought the purpose of Akatsuki is strengthen all members by giving them an animal's power. However, members are dying to fast that I don't really see a point to this. There really isn't a clear objective.
anyone know if it was mentioned anywhere in previous chapters whether or not it was possible to seal more than 1 tailed demon in a single person?
spoilers maybe?:
i'm kinda glad to find out that there is a person higher up on the akatsuki totem than that blond, pierced naruto looking kid... hopefully HIS objective isn't to rule the world :rolleyes:...
MagnusMadness
08-01-2007, 10:59 AM
I originally thought the purpose of Akatsuki is strengthen all members by giving them an animal's power. However, members are dying to fast that I don't really see a point to this. There really isn't a clear objective.
Can you seal a bijuu in an adult? In every case I've seen so far it was done at birth or with an infant...
I think it takes a lot of time for the characteristics of the tailed beast to manifest in a person and even longer to learn how to tap into it's powers.
(on that note...I wonder, did gaara predicate all his own jutsu? Did someone teach him techniques that really only he could use?)
maybe gaara's jutsu can be learned by everyone, or atleast sand village ninja shrug, but the jutsu require so much chakra that only he was capable of performing them so easily when he had the 1 tail in him...
The Epidemic
08-01-2007, 01:34 PM
^i think gaara's jutsu is original...seeing how Kakashi and others were surprised by his technique in the chunnin exams
but he is coming from the sand village, and ninja like to be secretive about stuff... there is a chance that kakashi & co. jonins haven't been able to encounter a shinobi who can use gaara's advanced techniques...
i'm looking forward to seeing Pain in action... she looks like she'll be badass... her hotness is a bonus... i'm usually hesitant when i call out the hotness of anime girls out of fear of them pulling a Poison, Bridget or Deidra on me, but what are the chances of two he/shes in akatsuki... anyone?...:shake:
Niksurugi
08-01-2007, 02:27 PM
but he is coming from the sand village, and ninja like to be secretive about stuff... there is a chance that kakashi & co. jonins haven't been able to encounter a shinobi who can use gaara's advanced techniques...
i'm looking forward to seeing Pain in action... she looks like she'll be badass... her hotness is a bonus... i'm usually hesitant when i call out the hotness of anime girls out of fear of them pulling a Poison, Bridget or Deidra on me, but what are the chances of two he/shes in akatsuki... anyone?...:shake:
I thought Pain was the guy with all the piercings...the woman is still being called "Blue Hair"
niksurugi:
yeah, you're right:sweat:
you know who i mean though, that goth girl with the flower in her hair... blah
PsychoSquall
08-01-2007, 04:50 PM
I thought the purpose of Akatsuki was to create a monopoly for hired ninja by controlling war.
Mickey D'
08-01-2007, 05:09 PM
Do you want to fist fight over the internet?
Because we can.
LOL
I have to give you mad props for being so awesome over the compliment.
You know what I'm saying dude....
If your thinking bout Naruto THAT much, shoot man Naruto has become to big of apart of your life.
Rodimus
08-01-2007, 05:09 PM
I thought the purpose of Akatsuki was to create a monopoly for hired ninja by controlling war.
Yep, that's right Psycho--
i think ppl are just trying to figure out how Madara fits that goal. Them controlling the nin world through war was what Pein said their objective was earlier. We all thought he was calling the shots but we see he's number 2.
i read some spoilers for 365 and it looks like we might have another monster chapter on our hands.
Naruto manga is on point right now.
Mickey D'
08-01-2007, 05:13 PM
Can we stop posting shit just to post it now? Seriously. The last few pages have been like reading kindergarten fan fiction. It would be cool if you were building on something, but most of you aren't. You're posting fabricated theories just to say "look, I could still be right!" or pray for a pre-emptive "I told you so!" when there really isn't any evidence to support it. If you're making the facts fit your theory rather than forming a theory to fit your facts its probably not true.
LOL....it's exactly what I had tried to say about 1 or 2 pages back
This thread has become a bunch of dogs barking
But hell, you articulated it so much better. I just hoped that someone would have caught on to my Innuendo.
Monarc G.
08-01-2007, 05:29 PM
So Pein, Toby and the girl are fooling the others akatsuki members...
Rodimus
08-01-2007, 05:36 PM
So Pein, Toby and the girl are fooling the others akatsuki members...
I think so Monarc, Itachi is prolly the only other member that knows the real story. He gotta know that tobi/Madara is running shit. thats why he aint saying nothing.
catchafire
08-01-2007, 05:41 PM
I think so Monarc, Itachi is prolly the only other member that knows the real story. He gotta know that tobi/Madara is running shit. thats why he aint saying nothing.
Maybe Orochimaru also knew...
DarkDragon
08-01-2007, 06:47 PM
So Pein, Toby and the girl are fooling the others akatsuki members...
Ive been wondering about that too. I think the whole world domination thing was just a plot to get members to boost up the Akatsuki's power so they can get their hands on the bijuu.
It really looks like the "real" akatsuki is just Pain, blue-hair, tobi and the leader. I have a feeling Kisame and Itatchi are just drones like the others that died only they have a real reason for being an akatsuki other than power/money obsessions. Plus theyre actually vital to the overall plot.
The Epidemic
08-01-2007, 07:07 PM
^i love that irene av...
im kinda late but episode 21 wasnt that bad animation wise.
catchafire
08-01-2007, 07:11 PM
no chap this week?
ViciousSLASH
08-01-2007, 07:37 PM
LOL
I have to give you mad props for being so awesome over the compliment.
You know what I'm saying dude....
If your thinking bout Naruto THAT much, shoot man Naruto has become to big of apart of your life.
lol I was just in the car driving to burger town and was thinking of the comparison.
It was mainly spurred on by the fact that I was playing the latest DBZ game beforehand so that sent the cogs a spinnin.
After I got to the burger place I just was thinking about burgers, not jutsus.
:looney:
4neqs
08-01-2007, 08:03 PM
Happy Tsunade day everybody. (08-02)
Zachman
08-01-2007, 08:25 PM
This thread is turning into shit.
catchafire
08-01-2007, 08:26 PM
But it turned into shit way after the manga and anime did...
ViciousSLASH
08-01-2007, 08:30 PM
This thread is turning into shit.
How is it turning to shit?
There is nothing to talk about because there is no new chapter.
When a new chapter comes out and we are all like "omg that was great!"
Will the thread not be shit again?
What made you even take the time to type "the thread is turning to shit"?
Did you feel that typing that out and posting it would make the thread better?
I think they need to rename Naruto "Have a fight, take a break" because that is always what happens.
Fight then everyone gets together and talks about what just happened in the fight.
Then they pan out to a meeting between the "bad guys" and they go "This is what we are going to do now".
Then they do it, and the process restarts.
At least Naruto is constant.
PS - THIS THREAD IS GOING TO SHIT.
4neqs
08-01-2007, 09:26 PM
Needs more UnCauzi for the shits and giggles.
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In this week's edition of the Sharingan manga, possible spoilers:
http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15964
Possible names for the Akatsuki female too. And Pein = Storm? If so I'm hoping there's a :lk:+:hp: xx qcf+ :2p: somewhere down the road.
Stabby
08-01-2007, 09:32 PM
That'd be random as fuck.
The only thing we've seen dude pull is the doppleganger technique he used to make the Itachi/Kisame clones that N and co fought. Weather powers is kinda out of left field.
But, w/e Kishimoto.
Sacr3D
08-01-2007, 10:23 PM
Needs more UnCauzi for the shits and giggles.
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In this week's edition of the Sharingan manga, possible spoilers:
http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15964
Possible names for the Akatsuki female too. And Pein = Storm? If so I'm hoping there's a :lk:+:hp: xx qcf+ :2p: somewhere down the road.
Run away storm.
Adam Warlock
08-02-2007, 05:24 AM
There is nothing to talk about because there is no new chapter.
What the fuck are you talking about?
pic1 (http://www.sunderpicture.com/image/6fc647996b45345bfccdc11394aeb9ff/) pic2 (http://www.sunderpicture.com/image/c83bb206b2378553241797adfe5f8057/)
catchafire
08-02-2007, 08:30 AM
Damn, this is what I expect from an Akatsuki member...
Still though, you gotta love how Sasuke just manhandled an Akatsuki member while Naruto get's punked in a single page...
lol...
(If these spoilers are true)
sasuke didn't take on the leader though...
deidara was at a disadvantage because sasuke is a long range fighter (he can fly...). had sasuke taken on hidan/kakuzu it might be a different outcome (ok it wouldn't because fucking sasuke is broken).
Adam Warlock
08-02-2007, 09:09 AM
deidara was at a disadvantage because sasuke is a long range fighter (he can fly...).
Sasuke isn't a long range fighter. If he were, he wouldn't have needed to get up in Deidara's face. Deidara is a long range fighter, and Deidara flies as well. How is any of that a disadvatage for Deidara? Plus, Deidara trained to specifically counter Sasuke's best move. Sasuke was the one with the disadvantage in that fight. Deidara only lost because he got careless and underestimated Sasuke early on.
yeah i know, i just hate how sasuke is God in this manga/anime.
fucking sharingan.
ShinAkumax
08-02-2007, 09:21 AM
?????????????????????????????????????????
Adam Warlock
08-02-2007, 09:21 AM
yeah i know, i just hate how sasuke is God in this manga/anime.
fucking sharingan.
I warned y'all back in 2.0 or 3.0. Sasuke is that nigga X2!!!!!!!!!
MagnusMadness
08-02-2007, 10:23 AM
what do the spoiler pics indicate?
from what i read on NF, they indicate that naruto ran into itachi and itachi says come here or something like that...
i honestly don't think itachi is going to attack naruto...i still feel like they're going to end up teaming up...kisame as well, when all is said and done.
Power Man Fox
08-02-2007, 12:21 PM
what do the spoiler pics indicate?
Itachi meet's up with a shadow clone of naruto.
(speculation)
From the look's of it Itachi doesn't look like he came to fight. :looney:
ViciousSLASH
08-02-2007, 12:50 PM
What the fuck are you talking about?
You know what I meant you educated moon cricket.
At the time there was no new chapter, now there is and the thread is "jumpin' jumpin'" again as you negros would