Naruto 7.0

[maxx]

Talking good about sakura IS blasphemy its about the same as burning the holy gaible.

gaible? wtf?

[gemdoom]

damn it was ok but kind of expected lol

[Kisame]

http://www.animetower.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1136

[maxx]

http://www.animetower.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1136

lol@ all the disses towards you haha. :rofl:

[Kisame]

thats not me thats an imposter Kisame.


way too young and his jokes sucked.

[EVARGNUG]

Naruto isnt some holy series to be put on a pedastool.

Did you know that most podiatrists don't like feet?

EDIT: That's going in my sig lol. Pure infamy.

[rukawa_kaede]

jiraiya will escape from death

[MagnusMadness]

Shit. I'm wrong. That stupid theory is just so well constructed that I thought it was true. :P Then again, all those theories about the Fourth being Naruto's father were based on hairstyles, and that shot in the dark somehow managed to be right. :P

Fucking Japs and their mind games.

I actually thought the 4th was naruto's father from the very beginning of the anime. You get a glimpse of a picture of the 4th and he looks just like an older version of naruto.

4th died sealing kyuubi inside naruto.....naruto has no parents

Then throughout the series they hint at it.

Then come to find out, it's the leading theory...

I wasn't suprised at all.

[MagnusMadness]

http://www.animetower.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1136

that's just the chuck norris fact list with gai's name instead. I recognized a bunch of em.

[Robust]

kisame is still a genin on srk

[Kisame]

kisame is still a genin on srk


Its cool since Jiraiya, Kabuto, and Sasuke are still genins as well.

[maxx]

Its cool since Jiraiya, Kabuto, and Sasuke are still genins as well.

yes please compare yourself to fictional characters.

[Rodimus]

I cant wait for this up coming chapter and anime episode.

Jees there was a lot of hate for episode 24 i didn't think it was that bad with the re-looping of fight scenes.lol.

Now 25 and 26=perfection the music the delivery, Kakashi using his kagebunshin to escape Deidara's spiders.

When all those pupets came out i was just like damn this part is done extremely well.

Next ep i think we are gonna hear Kakashi say Mangekyou Sharingan.

Where's starhammer? Star you gotta admit you are feeling Sakura in these episodes :)

be'z

[The Mullah]

I thought naruto was awesome last week, grannys puppets were really well animated and kicked the sht. The fight was awesome.

[Starhammer]

i want sakura to just start knocking niggas out. inner sakura has been channeled into she-hulk rage.

if inner sakura would just take over, the sakura character could become %100 better.

-Starhammer-

[Starhammer]

I cant wait for this up coming chapter and anime episode.

Jees there was a lot of hate for episode 24 i didn't think it was that bad with the re-looping of fight scenes.lol.

Now 25 and 26=perfection the music the delivery, Kakashi using his kagebunshin to escape Deidara's spiders.

When all those pupets came out i was just like damn this part is done extremely well.

Next ep i think we are gonna hear Kakashi say Mangekyou Sharingan.

Where's starhammer? Star you gotta admit you are feeling Sakura in these episodes :)

be'z

she killed Sasori. the only thing I'm feeling is the handle of an unneccesarily large and ridiculously powerful weapon. That bitch better watch out for low-flying powered armor suits. I won't be alone and I WILL be bringing hell with me.

-Starhammer-

[ReggieHadoken]

Starhammer you're Sakura hate always great to read. You are the Sith lord of Sakura hate. :rofl:

Well I saw Naruto ep 101. Even though most of it was filler, I still thought it was funny. LOL at Saskue being tempted to see what was under Kakashi's mask when Naruto mentioned he might have "lips like a blimp." Then shey show an image of Kakashi with huge freaking lips! :rofl: That scene at the ramen shop was priceless. :rofl: Kishi better show us what is under Kakashi's mask before Naruto ends.

Looks like everyone is still hyped up with last week's chapter. Can't blame 'em. Kishi finally admitting that The Fourth was Naruto's daddy made my weekend. Kishi better follow up on this and pronto! When does Naruto get the knowledge of who his parents were? When do we get more info on his mom? Dang! Naruto has me more stoked than ever!

[Kisame]

I doubt it was because of the Namikaze part. I think everyone is like me and stocked we will finally see 2 top tier Narutoverse people go at it in a real battle.


Unless jiraiya dies offpanel.

Which would be horribly horribly horribly horribly horribly bad writing.

[SaiST]

not stronger than the nine tails, just with a more "evil" chakra.
In the eyes, specifically.

Then again, all those theories about the Fourth being Naruto's father were based on hairstyles
And eye color, parallels with Gaara(another Jinchuuriki who's father happened to be the the fourth Kage of his village), reminding Jiraiya of him("in a funny way", was it?), and having the Rasengan and Toad Kuchiyose passed on to him.

Kishimoto made it pretty obvious that Naruto was related to him somehow.

Pein is the fourth. Gets revealed during the fight with Jiraiya. Jiraiya dies shortly after. Leaves naruto with the dilemma of his real father having killed his "new" father.
Foreshadowed by Jiraiya talking about naruto as a son.

Explains Pien's/fourths obsession with the tailed demons.

Bet it.
No.

Why are some of you guys so obsessed with the AL being the 4th. Even when they show his damn face or wtv people still go ITS THE 4TH I KNOW IT. They might as well show a damn dog as the AL and I'll still hear shit about the dog being the 4th. Cmon !!!
Seriously.

[Wellman]

I honestly wished Naruto wasn't the Fourth's kid. It was obvious as hell and that is why I hate that it revealed to be true.

I mean damn, you could have easily been Naruto was the 4th's nephew or something, heck I'd would have taken anything from instant reincarnation, pure coincedence or just hinting at that shit until the end of the manga but never out right saying it. Sort of like talking about why you broke up with a girl but since you are on good terms, never outright saying the dirty details.

[Starhammer]

I honestly wished Naruto wasn't the Fourth's kid. It was obvious as hell and that is why I hate that it revealed to be true.

I mean damn, you could have easily been Naruto was the 4th's nephew or something, heck I'd would have taken anything from instant reincarnation, pure coincedence or just hinting at that shit until the end of the manga but never out right saying it. Sort of like talking about why you broke up with a girl but since you are on good terms, never outright saying the dirty details.

heh. the ONE time you hope and pray it's just some plot hole that won't go anywhere and damn if this one time it comes true. :rofl:

-Starhammer-

[UnCauzi]

Sakura did NOT kill Sasori.

[strakka]

And eye color, parallels with Gaara(another Jinchuuriki who's father happened to be the the fourth Kage of his village), reminding Jiraiya of him("in a funny way", was it?), and having the Rasengan and Toad Kuchiyose passed on to him.

Kishimoto made it pretty obvious that Naruto was related to him somehow.
It's a pretty far stretch of the imagination to compare a bunch of completely unrelated factors and use that as the basis for being related. Sasuke uses Chidori and could summon Manda. Is Kishi implying that he's the love child of Kakeshi and Orochimaru? You can't do the Gaara comparison either, since the reason they sealed Shukaku into him for the purpose of turning him into the ultimate weapon of the sand. On the other hand, the reason Konoha sealed the Kyuubi into Naruto was to protect the village from the Kyuubi.

[Kisame]

On the other hand, the reason Konoha sealed the Kyuubi into Naruto was to protect the village from the Kyuubi.

wrong if they wanted to save the village he could have easily sealed it in anything else and kill them since it seems to insinuate if Naruto dies, kyuubi does as well.

[Wil]

Pein is the fourth. Gets revealed during the fight with Jiraiya. Jiraiya dies shortly after. Leaves naruto with the dilemma of his real father having killed his "new" father.
Foreshadowed by Jiraiya talking about naruto as a son.

Explains Pien's/fourths obsession with the tailed demons.

Bet it.

I ain't no Michael Vick and I sure ain't no NBA ref. I don't bet like that.

[SIMPLY_HUGO]

so the 4th is narutos dad...and yet hes still no good.And if your gonna kill a sanin(one of the legendary 3 ninjas) Who the fuck is gonna beat them? Kakashi nope,guy...maybe XD. Im gonna bet naruto will grow balls and man up and beat him

[Wellman]

Starhammer: So damn true, man, so Kami damn true.

Naruto can never actually grow balls, because he is the idiot hero of story. He might come proper in a fight here and there, but he can never really be serious and cool outside of battle (or inspirational speeches talking about virtues, friendship and bullshit) until the very end of series.

[SaiST]

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兄弟対決はちょっと先延ばしにされる気配…。
There's signs that the brother confrontation is being delayed...

タイトル「情報収集」
Title: "Intelligence Gathering"

表紙は自来也。
Front cover is Jiraiya

イタチが消え、一人残ったサスケの元に蛇メンバーがやってきて、
Itachi disappears, leaving Sasuke with Hebi who reach him.

サスケは「オレについて来い」「行くぞ」っとどこかへ行く。
Sasuke- "Follow me." Then "let's go". They go off somewhere after that.

本編は自来也の雨隠れの里潜入話です。
This volume deals with Jiraiya sneaking into Amegakure

白の指輪の人の名前が判明しました。「小南」と書いて「コナン」と読みます。
The "White" ring-holding person's name is confirmed. It's written as "小南" ("Shouna" or "Shounan", each kanji respectively meaning "little" and "south"), and it's read as "Konan".

来週は自来也VSペインな雰囲気…。
Next week has a build-up of Jiraiya versus Pain...
"Next week" refers to 368, I believe.

[Adam Warlock]

This may have been said before, but is pein's companion Jiraiya's spy?

EDIT: I mean bluehair or whatever her name is.

[Kisame]

wth is Bluehair doing.

And thats a much better name than Shouna <.<

[Power Man Fox]

I wonder if she say's "scatter" like byakuya. What is that? A flower clone?

[BananaWeed]

That flower jutsu must be top tier, since she's like 3rd strongest in akatsuki (after Madara & Pein).

[debs]

she looks dope.

[MagnusMadness]

The butterfly shit is so old news....

Basilisk

Bleach...

And prolly a thousand other anime/manga by now. In a world that's not governed strictly by any apparent laws of physics, you'd think he could come up with something fresh for such a pivotal character.



On a somewhat related note...who's dojutsu is more broken? The uchiha's? or Gennosuke's of Basilisk? His dojutsu does leave him vulnerable but it's an auto win....


Discuss.

[Kisame]

That flower jutsu must be top tier, since she's like 3rd strongest in akatsuki (after Madara & Pein).

Itachi is definitely stronger than her. I know everyone wants to rank her higher cuz she hangs around pein but Itachi is definitely one of the final villains and is either 2nd strongest or at the worst 3rd strongest villain.

[SIMPLY_HUGO]

has pein actually killed anyone yet O.O

And does guy have some ninjutsu? cause he did summon a frog XD

[MagnusMadness]

has pein actually killed anyone yet O.O

And does guy have some ninjutsu? cause he did summon a frog XD

correction...turtle.


making gai and lee....ninja turtles...hmm....you think this was intended?

[Adam Warlock]

has pein actually killed anyone yet O.O

And does guy have some ninjutsu? cause he did summon a frog XD

Gai has to know jutsu other than Taijutsu. He's teaching the others in the team. If he doesn't know any jutsu, that's kind of difficult.

[SIMPLY_HUGO]

ye it was a turtle -.-idk why i said frog...prolly cause naruto..Alrighty has guy displayed any other ninjutsu or genjutsu other then the summon?

[Kira Yamato]

Is it me or does bluehair jutus look like paper origami?

[Adam Warlock]

Full translation:The last two spoilers are true, going by the pics.

Here's a translation of a complete transcription / summary I found on 2ch.

368：情報収集

368: reconnaissance

The cover is Jiraiya.

その名を知らぬ者は無し。男・自来也様なれど、今回の任務はちとキツいのォ。

"His name is known o all! Yet even the gallant Jiraiya may find today's mission a challenge, see."

”うちはのアジトへ来い”　兄は弟を決着の地へと誘う…
バサバサとカラスが羽を散らし消えてゆく
サスケの元にいつもの３人がやってきた

As the crows disappear, Sasuke's three stooges (my pet name for them) approach.

:「命令があるまで動くなと言ったはずだぞ」

Sasuke: I thought I told you guys not to come move until I gave the order!

「カリンが他のチャクラを感じたって言ったから気になってね」

???? (probably Suigetsu, going from the speech pattern): "Well, we got worried when Karin said she felt some else's chakra in here."

「…羽？（カリン」

??? (Karin?): Feathers? (the crows' obviously)

:「オレについて来い」

Sasuke: Follow me.

:「行くぞ」　ザーと雨の降る雨隠れの里
（建物とかがすごくスラム街っぽい）
崖のようなところに立つペイン　別に濡れてもいい男とは思わｎ（

Cut Amegakure and the rain.

Pain's stands attop a cliff-like location.

「小南（コナン/バーロー！！）…　オレが雨を上げたらお前の術で侵入者を探せ」
Pain: Konan*... As soon as I stop the rain, use your jutsu to locate the intruder.

Konan = "small south." Let the deluge of dirty jokes begin!

「任せて」

Konan: Leave it to me.

「行くぞ」

Pain: Here goes...

「ああ」

Konan(?): Right.

Scene changes. Two men are walking in rain in the slums of Amegakure (this isn't written in the spoiler, but you can deduce it from the context and the pictures).

:「雨がひどいな」

Guy A: Some rain, eh?

「一杯やるついでに雨宿りでもするか？」

Guy B: How 'bout we have ourselves a drink while we wait for it to abate?

:「この辺りは最下地層で店なんかありゃしねーよ」

Guy A: Like we're gonna find a bar in these slums!

:「上に行くしかねーな」

Guy A: Yeah, gonna hafta go up to one of the higher levels.

「じゃ雨宿りしに上へ行くか
　…雨に濡れながらな」

Guy B: So, guess we're going up...and putting up with the rain all the while.

「！」

Lo and behold, they suddenly find themselves before a bar.

本日開店　バーカウンター有り飲み放題５００両　クラブフロッグ

"BAR FROG: Grand Opening! Drink 'til you drop for 500 ryous!"

:「ツイてるなオレたち」

Guy A: Looks like today's our lucky day!

『いらっしゃいませ！』

Bartender: Welcome!

:「二人だ」

Guy A: Two, please.

「酒と適当なツマミをくれ」

Guy B: We'll have our sake and some appetizers.

「今日は日曜じゃないよな？」

Guy B: It's not Sunday today, I think.

:「ペイン様に何かあったってことだ」

Guy A: 'means Pain-Sama's preoccupied with something.

:「ここから他国へ出かけるのかもしれないな」

Guy A: He might be going off abroad soon...

「でも他の曜日に降ったことなんて
　今まで無かったぜ」

Guy B: 'thing is, until now it's never rained on any other day of the week, buddy.

:「それだけ力を使うご用時なのかもしれん」

Guy A: Maybe keeping it up that long's taking it's toll on him.

「でもこう降られちゃあ…」

Guy B: Still, this much rain, you know...

:「オイ…！
　ペイン様はこの街の者達のために身を削っておられる」

Guy A: Oi! Pain-sama's breakin' his back for us in this city!

:「少しは我慢しろ！」

Guy A: Just put up with it for a little, will ya!

「そりゃそうだけど」

Guy B: Yeah, I guess.

『お待たせしました』

Bartender: Here you go!

:「！」
:「おい…？」

Guy A: Hey - !

「何も用意できてねーじゃねーか？！」

Guy B: Where the hell's our order!

『本日は当店の開店記念サービスがありまして…』

Bartender: Well, today's our grand opening special commemorative service so...*

*I may retranslate this line for my official translation.

「なに！ホントか？」

Guy B: What? Really!?

『お客様方ものスゴくツイてらっしゃいますよ』

Bartender: You Sirs are in for real treat!

マスター、自来也に戻るよ★ﾐ

Bartender changes into... Jiraiya-Sama!

:「お前…！いったい何者だ？！」

Guy A: Wha - hey! Who the hell are you?

『…質問するのはこちらだ
　色々聞かせてもらうぞ』

Jiraiya: I'll be the one making the questions here, and lots of them...

店が蝦蟇になる

The bar becomes a toad.

ペインが雨をやませた　「やれ…小南」　「ああ」

Pain stops the rain.

Pain: Do it... Konan!

Konan: Right!

小南がはがれる(・・・・)（申し訳ありませんがここは読んでからのお楽しみで！）
蝶に囲まれるペイン

Konan "peels" up (see pics). Pain is surrounded by butterflies.

自来也が客２人を蛙の腹の中で尋問しようとして次号に続きます

Jiraiya begins interrogating his two "customers."

侵入者を追う”暁”…しかしあっけなく情報源を飲み込んだ自来也の尋問は始まる。ペインを探れ ！！
暁のリーダー・ペインとは！？次号、『雨隠れの秘密』へ…！！

"Akatsuki pursues the intruder...meanwhile, Jiraiya begins interrogating his "sources." Time to learn about Pain! Just who is this leader of Akatsuki's? Next time: The secret of Amegakure!

From the pictures, I can make out the following line as the last one:

Jiraiya: About your leader, Pain...

So what this means is that Jiraiya at least knows his name already.

[noodleman]

chapter spoilers look dope!

[Thongboy Bebop]

Sakura did NOT kill Sasori.

Word. Sasori offed himself with Chiyo assist.

N

[Muff Daddy]

On a somewhat related note...who's dojutsu is more broken? The uchiha's? or Gennosuke's of Basilisk? His dojutsu does leave him vulnerable but it's an auto win....


Discuss.

oh man, this isn't even a contest imo. Gennosuke-sama's shit is beyond broken. not only can he make your fucking head explode like he did to that guy with the razor wind attack, but dude just looks at other cats and they kill themselves and each other. if it's just one attacker he'll cut his own damn head off. if it's two or more attackers they'll slice each other's heads off. wtf... that would be like Itachi or Sasuke looking at Naruto and having Naruto attack his whole damn team - pulling Rasengans on Sakura and Kakashi and shit. Uchihas are broken, but not THAT broken.

[MuD]

Gai has to know jutsu other than Taijutsu. He's teaching the others in the team. If he doesn't know any jutsu, that's kind of difficult.


I dont know...

What exactly could he teach Neji? Unless he's getting him to open gates... (which might be AWESOME, but i doubt), their styles are prett much opposite, and other than a decent sparring partner, he hasnt shown any ability to manipulate chakra (for spins and such), so what could he teach him?

As far as Tenten... what's there to teach? SHE THROWS SHIT! I mean... what else is there to say? Not only have most weapons in the Naruto world been useless (sides a handful of swords, and a trench knife or 2), very rarely does anyone ever get hit by a thrown anything. And she seems content to sit back and miss. Maybe if she were to learn chakra strings to attach to them... to direct them better (which Guy wouldnt be able to teach... could anyone in Konoha?), but for now, she just throws a million knives, and misses.

The only one he teaches is Lee. And he's making him Guy Jr. Not a bad thing, but really, if Neji didnt have Hyuga shit to learn on his own or with his clan, he'd be lacking. And as we see, Tenten IS lacking.

[MAGUS1234]

oh man, this isn't even a contest imo. Gennosuke-sama's shit is beyond broken. not only can he make your fucking head explode like he did to that guy with the razor wind attack, but dude just looks at other cats and they kill themselves and each other. if it's just one attacker he'll cut his own damn head off. if it's two or more attackers they'll slice each other's heads off. wtf... that would be like Itachi or Sasuke looking at Naruto and having Naruto attack his whole damn team - pulling Rasengans on Sakura and Kakashi and shit. Uchihas are broken, but not THAT broken.

but if its three ppl. two will be killing eachother, he 3rd can attacj dude...jus sayin

[Muff Daddy]

but if its three ppl. two will be killing eachother, he 3rd can attacj dude...jus sayin

nope, he'd still own them. in the Farewell episode, 5 guys attacked him. four of them died by killing each other. the last dude ended up chopping his own head off. G-sama > odd numbers. and honestly, if the third guy just saw two of his homies kill each other he'd be too shook to attack.</off-topic>

[ViciousSLASH]

lol at everyone being related.

Naruto, Karin, and Pein are all Siblings, and the fourth is their Dad.

The Uchihas are all fighting.

It's a god damned family feud.

And Jiraya is going to be there to sort it allout.

If Jiraya dies like a punk, I will be sad. The leader at least acknowledged what I've been pushing all along, Frog Masta is the shit. I wonder if he will take on both of them at the same time. Confirming what Itachi said long long ago.

[ReggieHadoken]

This has been bugging me for a while now, but does anyone else find it odd that Sasuke (despite Naruto and Sakura being unwilling to accept this), who is a traitor is being treated with kid gloves? Itachi is a traitor and when he set foot in Konoha, they treated him as such: arrest him or kill him on the spot. Same with Orochimaru. But Sasuke? As much as I like Naruto (the character), his whole "Sasuke is my friend" crap is really starting to make my blood boil. Dude turned traitor and some memebers of of the five man squad that was supposed to bring his sorry kiester back nearly got killed. Oh and on top of that, he tried to off both Naruto and Sakura when they met up in part II. Let's say he does kill Itachi. Is he going to be able to stroll back into Leaf Village like everything is normal and face no penalies for what he's done? Will be some bull crap if that's what happens.

Oh and I know I'm super late in saying this, but much thanks for the rep I got in this thread for my X2 av. :lovin:

[Korin Zynn]

I agree with you Reggie. I mean what does happen when Sasuke kills Itachi? If he does at all. That story is over. Does he go the Orochimaru route and try to set up his own "sound" village? I also find it kind of odd that Kakashi didn't form a stronger bond with Sasuke when they had thier training and he taught him chidori. Jiraiya and Naruto are very close, almost like a true father and son. I am getting very curious as to what Pein can do. Correct me if I am wrong but in one of the previous comics didn't someone say that Pein has an unbeatable kekkai genkai? If this is true and he is some relative of Naruto, maybe Naruto has the same ability that hasn't matured yet. Should be very interesting to say the least.

[Green]

To be honest here, I think Sasuke would accept punishment after his mission for revenge was accomplished.

[Pinion]

Honestly, after Sasuke kills Itachi I'm really hoping that Sasuke will commit suicide. I mean think about it: it's widely believed that Itachi did everything solely so Sasuke would be motivated to become more powerful, but for what?

In the end I see it going either one of two ways:

1.) Sasuke goes crazy/dies/whatever. (wishful thinking)

2.) Sasuke comes to understand all of this after the fact and starts a new mission with the intentions to wipe out the Akatsuki.

Obviously #2 is the most likely route, whether or not he does this side by side with Naruto in gang however is a different story.

[capcomANDsnk]

i forgot who said this but itachi's probly preppin sasuke to fight madara-->who'll probly kill itachi. it's clear that sasuke is still a good person, i'm sure he and naruto will team up soon. naruto finding out about his family brings him closer to sasuke, now he can relate to losing his clan.

[Havoc]

Umm.... you guys realize Sasuke hasn't actually done anything against the Leaf right?

All he did was leave the village, and fight Naruto a couple times.

[ReggieHadoken]

I agree with you Reggie. I mean what does happen when Sasuke kills Itachi? If he does at all. That story is over. Does he go the Orochimaru route and try to set up his own "sound" village? I also find it kind of odd that Kakashi didn't form a stronger bond with Sasuke when they had thier training and he taught him chidori. Jiraiya and Naruto are very close, almost like a true father and son. I am getting very curious as to what Pein can do. Correct me if I am wrong but in one of the previous comics didn't someone say that Pein has an unbeatable kekkai genkai? If this is true and he is some relative of Naruto, maybe Naruto has the same ability that hasn't matured yet. Should be very interesting to say the least.

Good post and not just for agreeing. :wgrin:

Naruto and Jiraiya do indeed have a bond, something that Sasuke never got with his training from Kaksahi. Who knows, maybe Kakashi did wish to get closer to Sasuke. He did try to deter him from seeking revenge before those Sound clowns showed up and make Sasuke look like a scrub. I've always felt that Sasuke's yearning for revenge is something that worked against him. He just didn't have the patience to wait to get stronger in Konoha.

I mean sure he's really strong now, but look what he did to obtain that strength: turned traitor, tried to kill his best friend to gain more power for revenge, and then tried to kill his former teamates when meeting up with them again. Despite the fact that he's travling with a crew now, I still can't help but feel that he really is alone in the world because he's so focused on revenge. He felt having bonds with friends made him weak, but it's bonds of friendship that give Naruto his strength. Didn't Sasuke's father warn him not to turn out like his brother, not to follow in his footsteps because he knew he was going down the wrong track? I find it ironic that Sasuke wants to avenge the death of his clan so badly, yet he's ignorning his father's sage advice. When he walked away from an KOed Naruto at the Vally of The End, he said he wouldn't be Itachi's puppet. Sasuke is so focused on revenge that he can't look up to see that his older brother is dangling the strings above his head. He told Sasuke to get stronger by filling his heart with hate for him and Sasuke has been going along with it like a lemming.

Whew! Guess I just had to get that off my chest. :sweat:

[colguile]

Where did this karin = naruto's sister stuff come from?

[4neqs]

Ever since Tsunade and Jiraiya talked about his mom/the Fourth's wife being redhaired (last chapter)

[Mickey D']

Ever since Tsunade and Jiraiya talked about his mom/the Fourth's wife being redhaired (last chapter)

Goes a little deeper then that buddy.

the "tomboyish" attitude, as well as the fact that she's very quick to jump the gun, etc.

[4neqs]

Aaaaand "brother and sister" (in quotes since we're not sure yet) are both after Saskay's nuts.

[UnCauzi]

Wait a second, didn't Sasori and Gaara have red hair? RELATED. Shit wait Temari and Ino both had blonde hair and barely shown, what are they doing eh? INCEST! Oh snap only one without a relative is Kakashi. Wait Tsunade....or is that gray vs silver?

I kid plausible considering how obvious Naruto as a whole is. It's like waiting around
to know the ending of a story you already know.

[4neqs]

The "Ino related to Deidara because of the OMG! HAIR!" gags were funny for a while

[debs]

i forgot who said this but itachi's probly preppin sasuke to fight madara-->who'll probly kill itachi. it's clear that sasuke is still a good person, i'm sure he and naruto will team up soon. naruto finding out about his family brings him closer to sasuke, now he can relate to losing his clan.
i said that...i'm sure that other's have speculated too, though.

Umm.... you guys realize Sasuke hasn't actually done anything against the Leaf right?

All he did was leave the village, and fight Naruto a couple times.
i hope everybody that ranted in the past few posts reads this post. sasuke hasn't done anything more than what jiraiya did.

[Adam Warlock]

i hope everybody that ranted in the past few posts reads this post. sasuke hasn't done anything more than what jiraiya did.

Not quite. Jiraiya never cut ties with the leaf. Sasuke renounced the leaf.And he attempted to kill Naruto and co when they caught up to him.

[Havoc]

Renounced? He left in the middle of the night without saying shit.

All he did was J. Holiday Sakura, then he peaced. Then he just fought hard enough to get away from Naruto. He didn't "attempt to kill" Naruto. If he did, Naruto'd be dead. He had the drop.

[noodleman]

Not quite. Jiraiya never cut ties with the leaf. Sasuke renounced the leaf.And he attempted to kill Naruto and co when they caught up to him.
when did Sasuke tried to kill anyone else from the leaf other than Naruto?

[kane_warhead]

He went with Orochimaru.

The guy who killed the 3rd Hokage.

That counts as something

[Havoc]

...and when he got there, he did no wrong.

Plus everyone knows his ambition is to kill the man who is believed to have wiped out an entire Konoha clan. I suppose that counts as something.

[Korin Zynn]

I just hope we find out in the next few chapters why Itachi did what he did. It is obviously something to do with Madara. Itachi is cold blooded but he would have a reason for killing off his family. He killed his best friend to achieve the Mangekyou. He does these things for a reason. I think it may end up that Madara kills Itachi and Itachi's last words are....Which then fuels Sasuke to take out Madara.

[Adam Warlock]

Renounced? He left in the middle of the night without saying shit.

Where's his head protector?


All he did was J. Holiday Sakura, then he peaced. Then he just fought hard enough to get away from Naruto. He didn't "attempt to kill" Naruto. If he did, Naruto'd be dead. He had the drop.

When Naruto/Sai/Sakura/Yamato caught up to him, he tried to kill them. Sai and Yamato had to jump in to save naruto, and Yamato even said he's seriously trying to kill them. Sasuke said he would kill them. I'm pretty sure that threatening the leaf and attacking them counts as "doing something to them."

...and when he got there, he did no wrong.

Plus everyone knows his ambition is to kill the man who is believed to have wiped out an entire Konoha clan. I suppose that counts as something.

Konoha's Ninja are the equivalent of military. What he's essentially done is go awol.

[The Epidemic]

fuck sasuke....

[Havoc]

Konoha's Ninja are the equivalent of military. What he's essentially done is go awol.

He's not the first nin to lose the forehead protector.

I agree about what he's done though. He's gone AWOL... but that's it.

People wondering why he's not being treated in the same vein as Orochimaru/Itachi, etc. it's because he hasn't done anything nearly as bad.

[Adam Warlock]

He's not the first nin to lose the forehead protector.

I agree about what he's done though. He's gone AWOL... but that's it.

People wondering why he's not being treated in the same vein as Orochimaru/Itachi, etc. it's because he hasn't done anything nearly as bad.

But it's not the same as the Jiraiya situation was my point. Sasuke has done dirt 9from the leaf's perspective). How bad is all relative.

[maxx]

i thought people who renounced their village put the line through their headprotector..or is that just itatchi and his gang.

[The Epidemic]

^during the sasuke/naruto fight...sasuke's headband was scratched by naruto. Symbolic for Sasuke leaving the village.

[maxx]

^during the sasuke/naruto fight...sasuke's headband was scratched by naruto. Symbolic for Sasuke leaving the village.

first or second fight..also was it intentional

[ShinAkumax]

i thought people who renounced their village put the line through their headprotector..or is that just itatchi and his gang.

Although political you may not agree with your country, you can still represent with pride. That's my interpretation of it.

Sasuke had his family killed in front of his eyes and Oro tempted him with a promise of power.Oro had killed the 3rd, that right there proved his power to Sasuke, what had Kakashi done? He was an out of shape nin at the time.

All that training was NOTHING to Garaa, he owned Sasuke for free. Naruto has exceeded Sasuke at that point, no small feat.


So of course he left the the village, it's hard to hate on a guy like that, even if he betrayed the village.

[Stabby]

Everything Sasuke did was in self defense. Naruto jumped on Sasuke first. Sai tried to kill him while he was taking a nap. He tried to leave, but everyone keeps trying to drag him back.

[DarkCat]

Didn't Sasuke say his goals were to "Kill a certain someone" AND "the ressurection of his clan".

After Itachi's done, he's gonna go do some humpin'! Perfect way to relieve the stress he's been going through all these years.

[kane_warhead]

He went with Orochi... That counts big.

It's like a certain US soldier who sided with Bin Laden after Sept 11. Even if he didn't commit any fucking wrong, he sided with a very wanted man.

Sasuke is in the same boat.

[ShinAkumax]

That's VERY subjective.

[kane_warhead]

Don't ride on Sasuke's nuts

[ShinAkumax]

That's VERY subjective.

[DarkCat]

If he wasn't in with Konoha, Tsunade would tell Naruto not to bother bringing him back. Even if Naruto wouldn't listen, SOMEBODY would say "Hey, Sasuke isn't welcome here."

Having the Sharingan in your village > Anything Sasuke has done thus far

[Adam Warlock]

Everything Sasuke did was in self defense. Naruto jumped on Sasuke first. Sai tried to kill him while he was taking a nap. He tried to leave, but everyone keeps trying to drag him back.

Self-defense? Bullshit. Naruto and co were just looking at him and talking to him when he tried to murk them. And when did Sai try to kill him?

[Rooks4]

^^ Exactly - Sai didn't try to kill him.. From what I remember, he told Sasuke he was 'sent there to kill him', but instead wanted to bring him back beacuse he was a special person to Naruto.

And then sasuke raped them.


I think Sasuke will be allowed back into Konoha, without any kind of 'punishment' per say.. but it will likely be when Naruto is Hokage, all this Akatsuki crap is resolved, and he comes to terms with his need to be an 'avenger' and realizes that his friends are whats really important. (i.e., the end of the series.)

[MagnusMadness]

naruto is going to kill sasuke

There will be no returning to the village blah blah. There will be a showdown between rivals at the end of the series.

[kane_warhead]

I think Naruto is the worst person to become Hokage.

As long as you're his friend, even if you did the most heinous of crimes, he'll still accept you to his fold.

I wish Shikimaru would be Hokage.

[ShinAkumax]

Don't ride on Shikimaru's nuts

[Robust]

kakashi would be so gdlk as hokage.

he would piss in many mouthes

[kane_warhead]

Don't ride on Shikimaru's nuts

It's cool and all... I don't even like Shikimaru that much

[Stabby]

Self-defense? Bullshit. Naruto and co were just looking at him and talking to him when he tried to murk them. And when did Sai try to kill him?


Sai sent some snakes or something at Sasuke while he was laying in his bed. Naruto and co showed up after that. And its not like he was back in Konoha, or called them out to his place. They are the ones that busted into his house.

[Bowza]

Renounced? He didn't "attempt to kill" Naruto. If he did, Naruto'd be dead. He had the drop.

At the Valley of the End, he STUCK HIS HAND THROUGH NARUTO'S CHEST. If he didnt have that kyuubi healing factor he was good as dead, so Sasuke was definitely trying to off his ass

[maxx]

At the Valley of the End, he STUCK HIS HAND THROUGH NARUTO'S CHEST. If he didnt have that kyuubi healing factor he was good as dead, so Sasuke was definitely trying to off his ass

yup, sauske thought he killed him. Kakashi thought he killed him, but everyone forgot he has wolverine level healing factor.

[Weeks]

Sasuke did his best to kill Naruto. failed.

[Kisame]

so im guessing whenever Naruto Attacks sasuke with Rasengan he is only trying to tickle him?

[maxx]

so im guessing whenever Naruto Attacks sasuke with Rasengan he is only trying to tickle him?

the original fight naruto had no intention of killing him. he wanted to test his best strength against someone he believed was his brother and equal. He wasn't holding back out of respect. Naruto had 100% no intention of killing sauske..if he thought he was that weak he wouldn't use rasengen. I believe at the time it was the same for sauske til he realized how much naruto uber powered up.

when naruto realizes sasuke leveled up..he's proud and envious and wants to train harder for his respect

when sauske see's the same..he goes into emo bitch mode and cries he's not strong enough and his desire to kill naruto grows.

[Havoc]

Sasuke didn't try to kill Naruto. That was a major point Kishi made during the fight. Yeah, he went through his chest... but that's happened plenty of times in Naruto without murderous intent.

"Oh... I missed the vital point on purpose... blah, blah, blah"

Regardless, I think the point that Sasuke is just chilling, and these fucks won't leave him alone is a good one.

He's not going out looking for Konoha nin to attack. He's doing his own thing, and they keep bugging him. Sometimes you gotta LA xx LS a nigga before they get the point.

[Kisame]

the original fight naruto had no intention of killing him. he wanted to test his best strength against someone he believed was his brother and equal. He wasn't holding back out of respect. Naruto had 100% no intention of killing sauske..if he thought he was that weak he wouldn't use rasengen. I believe at the time it was the same for sauske til he realized how much naruto uber powered up.

when naruto realizes sasuke leveled up..he's proud and envious and wants to train harder for his respect

when sauske see's the same..he goes into emo bitch mode and cries he's not strong enough and his desire to kill naruto grows.


So going all out with the intent to kill !=going all out with the intent to kill.

gotcha


Yeah Pretty sure that rasengan that was aimed at sasuke's head wouldnt have harmed him at all.

[GC!?]

Sasuke tried to kill Naruto on both the rooftop AND at the waterfall. Sasuke knew what the Chidori could do to Naruto; he used the Chidori before Naruto brought his Rasengan, and was going to strike at him before Kakashi interrupted. At the waterfall, Sasuke only missed Naruto's vital organs because Naruto moved at the last second. That was the explanation we were given. I wouldn't COMPLETELY rule out that Sasuke probably hesitated at the last second and purposely missed Naruto's vitals.

We were definitely led to believe that Sasuke MEANT to kill Naruto because of the end of the flashback with Itachi. "You must kill your best friend." I'm sure that had something to do with Sasuke's motives at that point, because otherwise, what was the point of the flashback or even that sentence? Sasuke wanted the power to kill Itachi, after all, and he knew he couldn't get that power by being with Naruto and co. - that's why he sided with Orochimaru and got the cursed seal powerup.

Naruto was never trying to kill Sasuke. What would that gain? All that effort to bring Sasuke back and OOPS you kill him? That'd make all of Naruto's efforts completely pointless. Naruto did say that he'd take Sasuke back "with full force" and that he'd break his limbs if he had to. But kill him? What?

Naruto and Sasuke's final Rasengan Vs. Chidori clashed against each other at first. What happens afterwards is entirely up to speculation, whether the attacks bounced off or both users purposely pushed their attacks elsewhere. Naruto likely struck at Sasuke's headband because that's what he said he'd do when they first fought at the rooftop. Remember Sasuke saying "You couldn't even land a scratch on my forehead" (I think that was what he said)? Naruto said he could do it, and he most definitely did, as Sasuke's headband was scratched.

[Adam Warlock]

Yeah Pretty sure that rasengan that was aimed at sasuke's head wouldnt have harmed him at all.

That's pretty dumb. The rasengan has yet to kill anyone in the series, even when hit point blank. Chidori on the other hand...

[TheDarkPhoenix]

sasuke thought he killed naurto once. then naruto spirt rez'd and got owned again, at that point in the fight either one could have killed the other by mistake in the heat of battle....

but if sasuke really wanted to he could have killed naruto at the end instead he let him live and said he'd find he own method to achieve power....


hence sasuke really hasn't done anything to warrant death by leaf village. left alone sure...but death nah. even when they came to get him and it seemed he actually was trying to kill them, that was there bad.


they broke all up into his place. plus he know you can't peace out naurto with just any old wound.


if sasuke ever came back he'd have to be powered way down or the villians would have to be on that dbz type ish

[Havoc]

We were definitely led to believe that Sasuke MEANT to kill Naruto because of the end of the flashback with Itachi. "You must kill your best friend." I'm sure that had something to do with Sasuke's motives at that point, because otherwise, what was the point of the flashback or even that sentence? Sasuke wanted the power to kill Itachi, after all, and he knew he couldn't get that power by being with Naruto and co. - that's why he sided with Orochimaru and got the cursed seal powerup.

Good job completely missing the point of the flashback.

The reason they showed that was to give us the impression that Sasuke was going to try to kill Naruto. It was later shown that Sasuke had no intention of killing Naruto, and giving in to Itachi's manipulation. THAT's why he went to Orochimaru. To get power in a way that wasn't preordained by Itachi. THAT's why the flashback was shown.

He wasn't trying to kill Naruto.

[Kisame]

That's pretty dumb. The rasengan has yet to kill anyone in the series, even when hit point blank. Chidori on the other hand...

yuura? and kabuto would have been did had he not been capable of healing. Thats like saying raikiri isn't deadly if the only person Kakashi used it on was Kakuzu.

[ReggieHadoken]

Wow, I had no idea I'd opened up a can of worms this big when I brought up Sasuke's leaving few pages back. :sweat:

Despite the fact that I hate Sasuke with a passion (said it before, I'll say it again: I've never liked him. Ever. Even before I knew about hsi tragic past), I guess there is a shred of me that feels sorry for him. It sucks that he lost his family but he did gain new people that were important to him (Sakura, Naruto) but he felt his bonds with them made him weak so he abandoned them. The only bonds his has now are bonds forged of hate, as he stated. He really is living a sad, lonely existence.

Another thing I don't get is why did Sasuke have no problem with trying to off Naruto & Sakura but he won't kill strangers?

[Chaotic Blue]

Sasuke tried to kill Naruto on both the rooftop AND at the waterfall. Sasuke knew what the Chidori could do to Naruto; he used the Chidori before Naruto brought his Rasengan, and was going to strike at him before Kakashi interrupted. At the waterfall, Sasuke only missed Naruto's vital organs because Naruto moved at the last second. That was the explanation we were given. I wouldn't COMPLETELY rule out that Sasuke probably hesitated at the last second and purposely missed Naruto's vitals.

We were definitely led to believe that Sasuke MEANT to kill Naruto because of the end of the flashback with Itachi. "You must kill your best friend." I'm sure that had something to do with Sasuke's motives at that point, because otherwise, what was the point of the flashback or even that sentence? Sasuke wanted the power to kill Itachi, after all, and he knew he couldn't get that power by being with Naruto and co. - that's why he sided with Orochimaru and got the cursed seal powerup.

Naruto was never trying to kill Sasuke. What would that gain? All that effort to bring Sasuke back and OOPS you kill him? That'd make all of Naruto's efforts completely pointless. Naruto did say that he'd take Sasuke back "with full force" and that he'd break his limbs if he had to. But kill him? What?

Naruto and Sasuke's final Rasengan Vs. Chidori clashed against each other at first. What happens afterwards is entirely up to speculation, whether the attacks bounced off or both users purposely pushed their attacks elsewhere. Naruto likely struck at Sasuke's headband because that's what he said he'd do when they first fought at the rooftop. Remember Sasuke saying "You couldn't even land a scratch on my forehead" (I think that was what he said)? Naruto said he could do it, and he most definitely did, as Sasuke's headband was scratched.

wrong. Naruto bought out the rasengan to counter sasuke's katon on the rooftop. Sasuke then bought out chidori to counter the unknown jutsu naruto was doing at the time. And in both anime and manga sasuke flinches before he about to deliver the death blow to naruto at the valley of the end. Instead of stabbing naruto with his hand he balls it into a fist and punches him. Even then, naruto was KO after that, he coulda just offed him there. There has also been several references as to the fact that sasuke purposly kept naruto alive as in when they meet up again and naruto asks, "Why did you not kill me then?" Maybe sasuke wanted to kill naruto in the beginning of the valley of end fight but when it came down to it, he couldn't do it.

And that last part, I'm sure kyuubi naruto wasn't thinking that hard about proving a minor point, he probably just struck at anything he could reach but thats just my speculation.

[Stabby]

Even if Sasuke meant to kill Naruto, that was still just self defense. Naruto said something fucked up like "I'm going to take you back to konoha even if I have to break your arms and legs." Its not like you can hit that dude lightly, either.

[debs]

i don't think they were going to kill each other either to be honest. i don't buy sasuke trying to kill naruto. sasuke wouldn't kill anybody, really...he didn't even want to kill dei dei. dei dei killed himself.

only kill sasuke has is orochimaru and he's not even really dead...i don't think.

[sonicspear64]

yuura? and kabuto would have been did had he not been capable of healing. Thats like saying raikiri isn't deadly if the only person Kakashi used it on was Kakuzu.

Odama rasengan and rasen-shuriken are god-tier broken. We need to see if sasuke's improved chidori techniques can stand up against the rasen-shuriken.

[Havoc]

Another thing I don't get is why did Sasuke have no problem with trying to off Naruto & Sakura but he won't kill strangers?

Oh!! Now I understand the Sasuke hate... you're stupid. Gotcha.

He has no problem with trying to kill Sakura/Naruto (which is debatable, but I'll bite anyway) because he feels like destroying the bonds he has with the Leaf will make him stronger. He believes that the kinds of emotions he has with those people get in the way of him gaining power. Killing Sakura/Naruto/Kakashi/whoever would be symbolic to him, and would be a physical manifestation of his mental growth.

Killing strangers does none of that.

Sasuke isn't "evil". He has never had any motive to harm anyone without a reason.

[maxx]

Odama rasengan and rasen-shuriken are god-tier broken. We need to see if sasuke's improved chidori techniques can stand up against the rasen-shuriken.

rasengen shuriken is wack for the mere fact u can't throw it. if you could throw it..it'd be broken. but its most defintly not a broken technique.

[Keits]

sasuke thought he killed naurto once. then naruto spirt rez'd and got owned again, at that point in the fight either one could have killed the other by mistake in the heat of battle....

but if sasuke really wanted to he could have killed naruto at the end instead he let him live and said he'd find he own method to achieve power....


hence sasuke really hasn't done anything to warrant death by leaf village. left alone sure...but death nah. even when they came to get him and it seemed he actually was trying to kill them, that was there bad.


they broke all up into his place. plus he know you can't peace out naurto with just any old wound.


if sasuke ever came back he'd have to be powered way down or the villians would have to be on that dbz type ish


Sasuke left the leaf to go hang out with one of its worst enemies. That is MORE than enough to warrant death by the leaf.

[4neqs]

Raw (anime) is out

http://www.mininova.org/tor/862985

[GC!?]

Good job completely missing the point of the flashback.

The reason they showed that was to give us the impression that Sasuke was going to try to kill Naruto. It was later shown that Sasuke had no intention of killing Naruto, and giving in to Itachi's manipulation. THAT's why he went to Orochimaru. To get power in a way that wasn't preordained by Itachi. THAT's why the flashback was shown.

He wasn't trying to kill Naruto.

Yes, we were given the impression that Sasuke was going to kill Naruto, just like I said. And it was LATER shown that Sasuke realized that killing Naruto would only have been following in Itachi's footsteps AFTER the fight. He wasn't branching off of what Itachi told him to do until afterwards; not before or during.

Sasuke could've killed the unconscious Naruto after the fight, though. That was when he realized that he'd only be following what Itachi was telling him to do, and it was THEN he told himself he would get strong in his own way. His thoughts on the whole matter changed.

Also, you do realize that Sasuke never knew of the nine-tails power until this point? Even if Sasuke missed the vitals, Naruto would've probably died - I believe Sasuke even predicted that. So when Naruto regenerated after the near-killing blow, it was quite a shock to him - that his potential death blow had no effect.

As for Orochimaru, as I said, Sasuke never thought about branching off of what Itachi said until after the waterfall fight. Feeling inferior to Naruto after witnessing the power of the Rasengan, feeling inferior of his own power to that of Itachi's - that was why he agreed to the Sound Four, as they promised him power. However, when walking in the woods towards Orochimaru's hideout, that was when he decided he wouldn't go after his best friend for the Mangekyo Sharingan (what Itachi said was the only way Sasuke could fight him), and that he'd get stronger in his own way.

[Havoc]

Not true.

You're just guessing as to what Sasuke's mindset was during the fight.

We were shown what his mindset was directly after the fight. That, to me, is a pretty fair indicator of what his mindset was for the five minutes prior to that (you know... the fight).

You choose to think that he had some random epiphany regarding somebody that wasn't even there, for no reason at the end of the fight. Yeah. OK.

[Demon_Hyo]

I finally gave into the manga and I'm very glad I did. Anime is SOOOOOOOO far behind it's SAD.

[sonicspear64]

^well the manga does have about a 3 year jump on the anime :wonder:

[Hunter D]

Naruto and Sasuke will fight to the death if Sasuke kills Sakura or Kakashi. Sasuke killing either of those two would be a point of no return type deal.

At the end of the first half of the series Sasuke didn't kill Naruto because Naruto was like family to him. He probably feels that he is at the point where he can kill the ones that he loves.

[Wellman]

Did they forbid Naruto from doing rasengen shuriken because he was fucking up his own arm?

I honestly felt like that was like the creator saying 'my bad' for creating such a shitty move.

[SaiST]

Apologies if I'm being redundant here; I don't hawk this thread like I used to, and I tend to jump into these discussions kind of late these days.

He went with Orochimaru.
...and when he got there, he did no wrong.
Going there was enough. He abandonded Konoha with no intent to return as a Leaf Shinobi. As Adam said earlier, he basically went AWOL.

In addition, he went over there well aware of Orochimaru's strength, and what he wanted from him. If Orochimaru had not been forced to take Genyuumaru's body a short while before Sasuke arrived, the lil' Uchiha's body would have belonged to Orochimaru the moment he stepped into the hideout. He risked handing over the kekkei genkai of Konoha's strongest clan to their greatest enemy.

And I don't believe he arrived there with the plan of killing Orochimaru and setting off with a 4-man cell in mind. Considering his level at the time, that would've been pretty much impossible. I suspect he formulated all of that after he arrived, became aware of Orochimaru's condition, and realized the time he had to grow stronger and get things done without Orochimaru snatching his body.

So going all out with the intent to kill !=going all out with the intent to kill.
Didn't bother to observe how the guy you were replying to worded it, but Naruto didn't intend to kill Sasuke. Using the Rasengan, there's a chance things would have worked out that way; that's basically what Kakashi implied on the hospital rooftop. But Naruto didn't intend to kill Sasuke on either occasion. S'not why he agreed to fight with Sasuke on the hospital rooftop, and wasn't the reason he chased Sasuke all the way to the Valley of the End in Part 1. He came there to save him; you could argue whether or not any of those thoughts were on his mind as the fight intensified with them using their biggest attacks at the end.

On the other hand, it was pretty clear what Sasuke had on his mind during that fight. He did attempt to kill Naruto, he was set on acquiring Mangekyou Sharingan throughout most of that fight.

Yeah Pretty sure that rasengan that was aimed at sasuke's head wouldnt have harmed him at all.
Wasn't really a Rasengan left in his hand at that point, and the same goes for Sasuke's Habataku Chidori. Power of their respective attacks had mostly dispersed from the previous impact, what struck them was nothing more than excess globs of chakra. Hence, why a scratch is all that Naruto's attack left on Sasuke's forehead protector, and Sasuke's didn't leave the kind of damage you would expect from even his regular Chidori.

He wasn't trying to kill Naruto.
Sasuke plowed his arm through Naruto's chest, and started strangling the kid with Itachi's words ringing through his mind, and a smile. (http://sai.voiea.net/stuff/naruto_ch228_p13.JPG)

It certainly wasn't his intention before Naruto initiated the fight after Sasuke turned his back on him, and it's pretty safe to assume that he had his doubts when looking down on Naruto's unconscious body at the end of the fight... But Sasuke definitely attempted to acquire Mangkeyou Sharingan that day(once, for sure. Two other instances that are debatable).

Odama rasengan and rasen-shuriken are god-tier broken. We need to see if sasuke's improved chidori techniques can stand up against the rasen-shuriken.
They can't. The whole circle of elemental advantages, and the fact that Naruto is using his wind-natured chakra with the highest level of form manipulation pretty much guarantees that. Nevermind Fuuton: Rasenshuriken, I doubt any of Sasuke's Chidori could stand against even Fuuton: Rasengan.

Sasuke's weapon against Naruto's Fuuton is his Katon. Even if the acquisition rank and overall power isn't quite as destructive as any of Naruto's Fuuton, there's a chance even a large, higher ranked Katon could overwhelm Naruto's Fuuton due to the fact that wind-natured chakra fuels Katon.

[Pained Auron]

any spoilers for the new chapter?

[Kisame]

apparently jiraiya is yondaimes father

[OmNiExiZt]

I know it's a little late. But I would just like to say that I am somewhat impressed by the new anime episodes that they have been showing lately. I do however hate the fact that they are starting to really drag them out DBZ style. So any of you still hate Sakura? Now that she is all shiny and new, I have a new found respect for her that I didn't have before.

*ONEZ*

[Kisame]

yes i hate her even more

[TheDarkPhoenix]

I never really hated her, she had nothing to offer but i never was one of the haters....

Tsunade was always one of my fave's and now that sakura is taking on that roll i like her more.

[Panicked]

Sasuke didn't try to kill Naruto. That was a major point Kishi made during the fight. Yeah, he went through his chest... but that's happened plenty of times in Naruto without murderous intent.

"Oh... I missed the vital point on purpose... blah, blah, blah"

Regardless, I think the point that Sasuke is just chilling, and these fucks won't leave him alone is a good one.

He's not going out looking for Konoha nin to attack. He's doing his own thing, and they keep bugging him. Sometimes you gotta LA xx LS a nigga before they get the point.

I'm pretty sure Naruto was the one who deflected Sasuke's Chidori before he got stabbed through the shoulder.

[thurst]

saying sasuke is just chillin and konoha should let him be is silly. a ninja's sole purpose is to serve the village and the village has a huge investment in them since birth. letting ninjas go AWOL and do their own thing is not an option. especially ninja with uchiha type potential.

[OmNiExiZt]

Anybody here know when is Naruto taking place? I'm kind of confused. I've seen VCR's, headsets, computers, cameras, electronic medical equpiment and cell phones. Did I miss anything? It seems like they are on some "The Village" shit in Konoha.

*ONEZ*

[thurst]

it's in it's own universe/timeline, kinda like DBZ where they had capsule cars and spaceships, but couldn't get goku some fucking bayer for his heart condition.

[Green]

Sasuke's weapon against Naruto's Fuuton is his Katon. Even if the acquisition rank and overall power isn't quite as destructive as any of Naruto's Fuuton, there's a chance even a large, higher ranked Katon could overwhelm Naruto's Fuuton due to the fact that wind-natured chakra fuels Katon.
I wonder if Kishimoto ever played with fire...

[Markudea]

Here's episode 27 (SUBBED):

- http://www.myanimeplanet.com/vid/2304.html (Part 1)

- http://www.myanimeplanet.com/vid/2305.html (Part 2)

Bad News: The next episode which is entitled "Revival of the Beasts" won't be out until "September 13th". Once again, Naruto fans get jobbed by Kishi & co.

[ShinAkumax]

Thank you Markudea, thank you very much.

Note: I don't understand why the movies are so badly written. I would go as far to say that peeps here could do better, if just because the bar is set so low from the get go.

Note: I wonder what Sasori wanted to acomplish, he had already done so much. Maybe he didn't have a goal.

[Adam Warlock]

Even if Sasuke meant to kill Naruto, that was still just self defense. Naruto said something fucked up like "I'm going to take you back to konoha even if I have to break your arms and legs." Its not like you can hit that dude lightly, either.

Because he went AWOL. The part you don't seem to understand is that leaving is not an option for him. he gave up his free will a long time ago. You're arguing like he had a right to leave in the first place.

[Rick Fn Stalvey]

Sasuke's weapon against Naruto's Fuuton is his Katon. Even if the acquisition rank and overall power isn't quite as destructive as any of Naruto's Fuuton, there's a chance even a large, higher ranked Katon could overwhelm Naruto's Fuuton due to the fact that wind-natured chakra fuels Katon.

Good shit Saist, thats one of the most thought out posts I have seen in a long time here.





Bad News: The next episode which is entitled "Revival of the Beasts" won't be out until "September 13th". Once again, Naruto fans get jobbed by Kishi & co.


Thats Bullshit man!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[EVARGNUG]

Note: I wonder what Sasori wanted to acomplish, he had already done so much. Maybe he didn't have a goal.

This is kind of redundant but regarding a "short-term" goal of his, here's what Wiki says:

Once joining Akatsuki he was paired with Orochimaru and after Orochimaru's betrayal, Sasori took it upon himself to track his movements and plot his destruction.

Orochimaru's "betrayal" is an inference to when he tried to possess Itachi's body but failed. After OM defects, Akatsuki becomes diligent in trying to dispatch him because of his knowledge of their plans.

On behalf of Sasori's long term goals, obviously and like all other Akatsuki members, he'd ceased all immediate personal endeavors and fully aligned himself with the goals of Akatsuki, with the utmost goal being world domination.

[thurst]

am i the only one that thinks akatsuki's "master plan" is the dumbest shit ever?

[EVARGNUG]

am i the only one that thinks akatsuki's "master plan" is the dumbest shit ever?

how so?

[Robust]

am i the only one that thinks akatsuki's "master plan" is the dumbest shit ever?

yeah. Its a d ubm excuse to get a bunch of badasses to group up.

[thurst]

well not "dumb" as much as lame. you got 9 powerful ass ninjas so i assumed they had some super devious evil plan. and then you find out that they just want world domination and riches...i was expecting more of an apocalypse style agenda. if they were plunging the world into neverending war bcuz of some twisted ideology would be awesome...doing it just so you can have a wealthy syndicate comes off as lame and pretty cookie cutter.

[Adam Warlock]

how so?

I think it's dumb because if it's that easy to capture Jinchuriki, why does everyone fear them? BEHOLD! THE POWER OF HE WHO DIES IN 2 OFF SCREEN PANELS!

[thurst]

lol that too. what are you guys reading that's giving you the basis for all this speculation about pein's origin and what not? like i've read the manga up to 367, but i dont' remember readin any of the shit you guys were talking about a few pages back.

[Adam Warlock]

lol that too. what are you guys reading that's giving you the basis for all this speculation about pein's origin and what not? like i've read the manga up to 367, but i dont' remember readin any of the shit you guys were talking about a few pages back.

Just piecing puzzles together. The fact that Pein and Naruto look so much alike and they went out of their way to make sure you knew his mother had red hair and was from the rain village, etc.

Current fan theory is that Pein is strong becuase of his eyes and Naruto will inherit that as a bloodline limit. Supposedly, he has some doujutsu that owns all others, Sharingan included. All fan spec at this point though.

[Weeks]

well not "dumb" as much as lame. you got 9 powerful ass ninjas so i assumed they had some super devious evil plan. and then you find out that they just want world domination and riches...i was expecting more of an apocalypse style agenda. if they were plunging the world into neverending war bcuz of some twisted ideology would be awesome...doing it just so you can have a wealthy syndicate comes off as lame and pretty cookie cutter.

it's lame, but you've got to admit that it's more realistic

[ShinAkumax]

I think it's dumb because if it's that easy to capture Jinchuriki, why does everyone fear them? BEHOLD! THE POWER OF HE WHO DIES IN 2 OFF SCREEN PANELS!

lmao

[EVARGNUG]

well not "dumb" as much as lame. you got 9 powerful ass ninjas so i assumed they had some super devious evil plan. and then you find out that they just want world domination and riches...i was expecting more of an apocalypse style agenda. if they were plunging the world into neverending war bcuz of some twisted ideology would be awesome...doing it just so you can have a wealthy syndicate comes off as lame and pretty cookie cutter.

Well, Naruto is Shonen, and I'm gonna go ahead and be an asshole in saying that Shonen is inclined towards the ineptitude of young, dumb, males from Japan; a country where they have unscientific explanations for everything and let their imaginations run wild with shit that's whack.

Also, judging from these dumbass escapades the characters go through in the world of Naruto, I'm gonna say that Kishi is a bad writer who doesn't know shit about good writing, despite saying, in an interview, that "good writing" is something he aspires. Nigga is witless by my standards. I can't say what good wit is in Japan, but reading Kishi's stuff makes me say aloud, "wtf?" and "gay shit," a lot.

However, IMO, you can't really say ATM, whether or not Akatsuki's main-main goal is to be all about money. The good stuff is just getting started. And knowing Kishi's all-around randomness, new shit might be introduced later on.

[kane_warhead]

Anybody here know when is Naruto taking place? I'm kind of confused. I've seen VCR's, headsets, computers, cameras, electronic medical equpiment and cell phones. Did I miss anything? It seems like they are on some "The Village" shit in Konoha.

*ONEZ*

you forgot that no one invented a gun.

[MagnusMadness]

Because he went AWOL. The part you don't seem to understand is that leaving is not an option for him. he gave up his free will a long time ago. You're arguing like he had a right to leave in the first place.

I think you misunderstand. Naruto was trying to protect sasuke from orochimaru by keeping him from going. Leaving the village isn't that big of a deal, just not something that most shinobi do. Tsunade and Jiraiya left the village. Jiraiya doesn't wear a konoha forehead protector.

[TheDarkPhoenix]

Every evil persons goal is to rule the world or get rich. That why magneto and Apocalypse ownz as far as villians go. :looney:

I wonder if itachi and Apocalypse or on that same bad guy tip.

[Adam Warlock]

I think you misunderstand. Naruto was trying to protect sasuke from orochimaru by keeping him from going. Leaving the village isn't that big of a deal, just not something that most shinobi do. Tsunade and Jiraiya left the village. Jiraiya doesn't wear a konoha forehead protector.

No, I think you misunderstand. Jiraiya was only left the village to bring Orochimaru back. He did exactly what Naruto is doing for Sasuke. When he realized Orochi was too far gone, Jiraiya tracked him to keep tabs on him. When you have a blood line, leaving the village IS a big deal. I think you need to reread the manga in its entirety.

[thurst]

apocalypse and magneto have ideals that they want to accomplish which makes them interesting and allows for plot twists and shit, according to [akatsuki guy whose name i forget atm] they don't stand for anything, they're just strong ninjas that wanna rule the world and be rich....pretty lame. if they should at least had some ancient juurikki god that they were trying resurrect or something, imo at least.

[Rodimus]

I have a big favor to ask!!! Can somebody turn this into a zip file for me? thank you. I'm at one of those stupid community computers and i cant download winrar!!

But I give you guys a gift b4 i can even see it!!

Naruto 368 Raw:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/tnlng9

Now hook a brotha up and make this a zip format for me..lol.

[SaiST]

I have a big favor to ask!!! Can somebody turn this into a zip file for me? thank you.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/5t5wq9

[MagnusMadness]

No, I think you misunderstand. Jiraiya was only left the village to bring Orochimaru back. He did exactly what Naruto is doing for Sasuke. When he realized Orochi was too far gone, Jiraiya tracked him to keep tabs on him. When you have a blood line, leaving the village IS a big deal. I think you need to reread the manga in its entirety.

what about tsunade?

[Adam Warlock]

what about tsunade?

Did you finish your homework yet? There are an awful lot of chapters.

[MagnusMadness]

Did you finish your homework yet? There are an awful lot of chapters.

I don't read the manga. Except for what's been posted here of late. Maybe I'm missing something, but I've never gotten this militant vibe from naruto, more just a caring friend. I don't think he cares about blood lines and what not.

Remember that originally the sasuke retrieval ark was about rescuing him from the sound five, who attacked and subdued him.

[Rodimus]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/5t5wq9


Thanks Saist!!

Im glad ya'll got the raw :)

I'll be back to discuss.

[Rodimus]

Ok Ok I'm Back:

Dont really need a translation to know what's up here..lol.

This is what i wanna see Kishimoto. Jiraiya doing cool shit. Not just hittin up the strip club looking for those *Drunk and Hot girls*..lol.

Anyway that toad jutsu was crazy, so basically the whole structure just gets absorbed by Jiraiya's Toad?. wtf, that might be kinda broken.

The fight between him and Pein--I cant wait for it.

?uestion. did Itachi's clone have any clue that Hebi was there?
I thought Sasuke was solo but i guess he wasnt. I think that was/ is a smart play.

Another ?uestion.

Why does Rain Village look so advance. You would think with all the Rain they couldn't get too much construction done. I guess it's like a silcon Valley thing..lol.

Mostly a info chapter but Im still glued to my seat. we'll get some action soon enough.

[SIMPLY_HUGO]

sasori died finally...Yet he let himself die 0.0. And yay gonna see kakashis broken eye soon! MS

[noodleman]

it's a Mango-ing time!

edit: and need 368 translations!

[Adam Warlock]

^read the thread you lazy fucka.

[noodleman]

haha, couldn't find it before, found it now.

[Power Man Fox]

Anyway that toad jutsu was crazy, so basically the whole structure just gets absorbed by Jiraiya's Toad?. wtf, that might be kinda broken.

?uestion. did Itachi's clone have any clue that Hebi was there?
I thought Sasuke was solo but i guess he wasnt. I think that was/ is a smart play.



I thought it was just a transformation jutsu.

Itachi prolly did know team snake was there. That's why he let his clone die so fast and utter the " come to the other location alone"


I wonder how many chapters till J vs pein? 2-3? Can't wait!

[ReggieHadoken]

Jiraiya's disguise was :rofl: I gotta give the pervy sage credit for having the balls to go intro extremly dangerous territory. If he dies, Kishi, you'd better give him a soldier's death.

[Bowza]

I don't read the manga. Except for what's been posted here of late. Maybe I'm missing something, but I've never gotten this militant vibe from naruto, more just a caring friend. I don't think he cares about blood lines and what not.

Remember that originally the sasuke retrieval ark was about rescuing him from the sound five, who attacked and subdued him.

The thing with Sasuke leaving Konoha was more about him going out to chill with OROCHIMARU of all people, the guy who finished off the 3rd Hokage, and tried to destroy Konoha. Him allying with orochimaru or even worse giving him the sharingan would be one of the worst possible situations

[sainthuey]

man i'm kind of dissapponted in sasuke for brining hebi with him, itachi states "your still weak" and what does he do, shows up a posse to take him down, I would think sasuke's training with Oro would prepare him for 1v1, BY NOW. wouldn't mind itachi OCV'ing his bitch ass:arazz::arazz:

The jiraiya trans. was his frog, like the building was the frog but i guess just changed in apperance it didn't actually eat a building(probably possible though since it's giant). I knew something was up when I saw the bartender, he looked mad sketchy.

Good to see Jiraiya making progress and not jacking around and what not.

[SaiST]

Sasuke intends to have a 1-on-1. Hebi is only tagging close by to prevent any distractions. Even though it was just Itachi's Kage Bunshin, they went against Sasuke's orders by coming in there in 368.

[Azrael]

what about tsunade?
Although it's never been explicitly said (?), I believe the Tsunade left the village after Dan died, having been disillusioned with the life of a ninja.

Besides, if you've earned the title of "Legendary Sannin", I figure you can do whatever the fuck you want and not too many people are going to try and step to you.

Also, if I remember correctly, the whole reason Tsunade sent the 5 after Sasuke was not to retrieve a comrade, but she knew he was going straight to Orochimaru's camp, and there was the very real chance that Orochi could get the Sharingan for himself. Your #1 enemy with the most broken hax in the Naruto world.

[sainthuey]

Sasuke intends to have a 1-on-1. Hebi is only tagging close by to prevent any distractions. Even though it was just Itachi's Kage Bunshin, they went against Sasuke's orders by coming in there in 368.

ehhh doubt that dude, sasuke wouldn't bring 3 VERY powerful motha fuckas to 'play guard', if itachi sees them(probably already has) he likely will attack them also. And judging by how they went against orders they didn't rush out to perform a cheer dance for sasuke, they looked like they were ready to rush somebody.

[SaiST]

ehhh doubt that dude, sasuke wouldn't bring 3 VERY powerful motha fuckas to 'play guard'
Chapter 365: "If we find him, then the worst case scenario is the three of you having to fight the Leaf Ninja."

"You three stay here..."

Chapter 368: "I thought I told you not to come..."

[i]And judging by how they went against orders they didn't rush out to perform a cheer dance for sasuke, they looked like they were ready to rush somebody.
And that's not what Sasuke wanted. It was against his orders, as you just acknowledged. Nothing to suggest Sasuke wants to do anything but solo Itachi. The rest of Hebi's only there to help Sasuke get to Itachi, and "play guard" as you put it.

It's safe to assume that, before Team Konoha became involved, Sasuke intended for the rest of Hebi to deal with any other Akatsuki that may get involved. Suigetsu is tagging along just so he can get his shot at Kisame.

[Tito Mel]

is Suigetsu strong enough to take on kisame...?

[Black Deniro]

Is it really worth it watching the naruto episodes after the fight between sauske and naruto? Could I just go skip down on to naruto shippuden?

[Robust]

Ughhhhh

Jiraya Don't Hurt Em!!!

[Dhalsimowns]

As powerful as Pein is, if he respects Jirayai as a warrior and Orochimaru was as powerful as Jirayai(?) why is it the rest of akatsuki seem to have had really little concern about Orochi as a threat?
Itatchi said he and kisame would at best tie Jirayai in a fight, and Orochi had no fear of Jirayai whatsoever so wouldnt the rest of akatsuki, including Itachi, respect his power more than they gave on. Being a sannin, I doubt orochi had any fear of anyone in akatsuki except pein, maybe more for political reasons even.
Of course, I am sure we will see in the future why pein has the reputation he does.
There is little to no material in the manga or anime that I know of concerning the others akatsuki member's ackowledgment of Orochi's power. This is a little unsatisfying considering how powerful Orochi was.
So how is Madara (Tobi) so powerful, when supossedly Madara>Pein>Sanin?
I dont know it just seems like the title of sannin is becoming less and less meaningful.

^ Where was this mentioned about Pein's blood line ability? And if he is so powerful why does he follow Madara's orders. Even then, what could make Madara so strong

[Dhalsimowns]

^^

Save 2,000 minutes of your life by skipping to Shippuden.

They save some villages nobody cares about, meet some people that are not important and will never appear again. A flute playing ninja with amnesia dies and naruto is sad. Sakura punches naruto a few times for being stupid, and there are a few comical moments of everyones personality. Tsunade slacks off and theres about an 60 episode strecth without kakashi.

read the mangas if you must because its quicker. I feel sorry with anyone facing this dilema. The whole 100 filler episode thing to me is either the biggest mystery in published anime or teh biggest mistake. 100 episodes of filler...
Thats like half the series.

[Power Man Fox]

Sasuke intends to have a 1-on-1. Hebi is only tagging close by to prevent any distractions. Even though it was just Itachi's Kage Bunshin, they went against Sasuke's orders by coming in there in 368.


Maybe :sweat:

In the 2 translations i've seen for the recent chapter sasuke say's "I told you not to come in here untill i gave the signal".

That gives off the impression that he at some point intended to call the 3 in. By use of signal.
It makes no sense if he called them in after the fight.
Then after the little encounter itachi tell's sasuke to come to another hideout alone. Sasuke then heads out with hebi in tow.

*Edit*

[UnCauzi]

Hmm even in the anime they make it a point to mention that Sasori frigign poisoned granny yet
she's chillin, and how come people keep saying sakura killed sasori when in fact sasori would have killed sakura if not for granny AND sakura didn't even land the killing blow.

Peoples reading comprehension sucks.

/end fanboyism rant

[MagnusMadness]

Hmm even in the anime they make it a point to mention that Sasori frigign poisoned granny yet
she's chillin, and how come people keep saying sakura killed sasori when in fact sasori would have killed sakura if not for granny AND sakura didn't even land the killing blow.

Peoples reading comprehension sucks.

/end fanboyism rant

I just saw the episode and you're exactly right. I don't see how anyone could possibly interpret it any other way.

[ReggieHadoken]

So that fight between grandma, Sakura and Sasori is done already? Wow that was quicker than I thought.

If Naruto's mom is alive and he meets her, his first question is gonna be "WHERE THE EFF HAVE YOU BEEN WHILE I WAS BEING TREATED LIKE CRAP IN KONOHA?!" Seriously, if she is alive, where has shee been all this time?

I wouldn't mind seeing Kisame and that other shark faced freaking having a showdown. Sounds freaking cool.

[SaiST]

Maybe :sweat:

In the 2 translations i've seen for the recent chapter sasuke say's "I told you not to come in here untill i gave the signal".
"Sasuke: I thought I told you to stay back until I said otherwise.", says Hisshou.

That gives off the impression that he at some point intended to call the 3 in.
Doesn't necessarily mean he'd be calling them in for Itachi. What if there were any other Akatsuki groups there to deal with?

Then after the little encounter itachi tell's sasuke to come to another hideout alone. Sasuke then heads out with hebi in tow.
And that doesn't mean they'd be following him all the way to the Uchiha hideout. They've still got Konoha patrols sniffin' them out, and they're about to head directly to the village.

If Sasuke intended to have the rest of Hebi fight alongside him against Itachi, there'd be no point in ordering them stay back in the first place. He's obviously looking for a solo fight.

[Markudea]

is Suigetsu strong enough to take on kisame...?
Well, of course, we don't know how strong Suigetsu really is, and since a person can have somewhat of an idea of how strong Kisame may possibly be, I'll say that Suigetsu may have a chance of defeating him. When Suigetsu enlarged his arm to get through that door, I realized that he may have some powers that are perhaps new to the anime which would aid him in his success against Kisame. Despite that statement, me picturing Kisame at full power is still a little scary.

As powerful as Pein is, if he respects Jirayai as a warrior and Orochimaru was as powerful as Jirayai(?) why is it the rest of akatsuki seem to have had really little concern about Orochi as a threat?
Itatchi said he and kisame would at best tie Jirayai in a fight, and Orochi had no fear of Jirayai whatsoever so wouldnt the rest of akatsuki, including Itachi, respect his power more than they gave on. Being a sannin, I doubt orochi had any fear of anyone in akatsuki except pein, maybe more for political reasons even.
Of course, I am sure we will see in the future why pein has the reputation he does.
There is little to no material in the manga or anime that I know of concerning the others akatsuki member's ackowledgment of Orochi's power. This is a little unsatisfying considering how powerful Orochi was.
So how is Madara (Tobi) so powerful, when supossedly Madara>Pein>Sanin?
I dont know it just seems like the title of sannin is becoming less and less meaningful.

^ Where was this mentioned about Pein's blood line ability? And if he is so powerful why does he follow Madara's orders. Even then, what could make Madara so strong
Well, Orochimaru and Jiraiya are two different people as the Akatsuki are familiar with Orochimaru and thus know his abilities. The organization (expect for Orochimaru) have no complete idea on what abilities Jiraiya has which gives him the edge for being somewhat either overlooked or highly respected. Imo, Madara/Tobi is so powerful is because of his full knowledge of the Sharingan. It's obvious that his Sharingan's power (or the true power of the Sharingan in general) has something to do with the bijuus and if he already had the MS, then I don't even see Pein defeating him. After Madara/Tobi stated how well the Sharingan was demonstrated by Sasuke and how he'll show the true power of it, I realized that his eye has to be on a higher plateau than Itachi's and Sasuke's (perhaps a level that Pein can't hang with).

[ShinAkumax]

I think they fear Jinraiya simply because he has the Death God. Which is why Itachi said, at best, we draw. Numbers don't make the difference.

I don't see why Oro wouldn't give any info he had on Jiraiya to Akatsuki when he was part of it.

I think Madara is just the new Sharinga user whose nuts people want to ride. It wasn't that long ago that Itachi > God, believe it.

I know Jinraiya is not confirmed to have the Death God but it's pretty freaking logical.

[Power Man Fox]

"Sasuke: I thought I told you to stay back until I said otherwise.", says Hisshou.

Doesn't necessarily mean he'd be calling them in for Itachi. What if there were any other Akatsuki groups there to deal with?


See "until" it still sound's like he's planning to use them for the fight. More akatsuki group's? Who? Pein and conan? Zetsu and tobi? If anything tobi would prolly aid sasuke.
Kisame? In that one hallway kisame was content with letting sasuke and itachi fight solo. He said "its a matter between brother's" iirc
Plus with suigetsu (sp) around i think kisame would have his hands full.

When sasuke was about to use that jutsu on team kakashi he said that if he and oro fought itachi, they'd lose.
What has he gained since then that makes him think he can now fight itachi on an equal level? My guess hebi.

[UnCauzi]

I just saw the episode and you're exactly right. I don't see how anyone could possibly interpret it any other way.

Eh, it's just more PNJ that's all, and fans making up shit.
But eh guess it's better than:

Sasuke summon, sharingan teleportation no jutsu

[Dhalsimowns]

Is'nt Pein suppossed to have some kind of unbeatable blood limit though?
So, maybe then Madara's knowledge of the sharingan is wayyyy more than Pein's knowledge of his own and thats why madara is boss.

Or it could be just that madara is the one with the whole gameplan with the bijuu's.

Eh, I think the sharingan is just too godly. Orochi was a once in a decade genius who knows thousands of jutsu's and can use the 1st, 2nd, and 4th hockages(!!!!) as weapons in battle and yet Itachi can supossedly beat him because of the ms.

I mean wtf, who can beat the 4th?? Much less, the 4th+1st+2nd+