X-BOX 360 THREAD (rants, bitching, jocking, reviews, fights, locations) all here!

[tsoteddy]

I guess since the 360 is coming out soon and the next-gen of games is about to be born i was just wondering who will have part of the first shipment of the xbox 360 since i wil be a lucky one and who will stay overnight in stores for the system. If there is another thread already created like this please ley me know because i want to check out who will have it. Anywho post if u want to and what bundle you will get. Once you get it let us know how is the system what is good and bad about it, damage or perfect? Well hopefully 360 to be owners post. Post-out

[DropOff]

To be honest, I am not buying a x-box three-six-ohhh until its proven the other systems are going to suck and theres a major price drop. I just dont relate with the direction mircosoft is going in. By trying to relate to the "casual gamer" I think they alienated alot of the hardcores, and the budget version is pure garbage, there probably going to stop selling those after a while. But even more disturbing is the fact that there letting people "Pimp" there 360's.

[ClouDC]

il wait until all the 3 systems are out to choose one...

[HeaT]

To be honest, I am not buying a x-box three-six-ohhh until its proven the other systems are going to suck and theres a major price drop. I just dont relate with the direction mircosoft is going in. By trying to relate to the "casual gamer" I think they alienated alot of the hardcores, and the budget version is pure garbage, there probably going to stop selling those after a while. But even more disturbing is the fact that there letting people "Pimp" there 360's.

the budget version 2 point pricing strategy is not garbage its a good idea they will try to capture more of the market by doing that...

im outi

Roberth

[apokalipze2]

I'm going try to get one if they don't sell out . I'll get the 400 dollar package since it makes sense

[tragik]

My buddy preordered it and is paying for it little by little. He's got almost all of it covered already.

So im definitely going to be chilling at his place that day.

[Sdouble]

if you don't buy oblivion your'e gay, why buy another racing, sports game, when you can buy a game with over 500 hours of game play if not more.

www.elderscrolls.com
go son!!!^

[orka]

I got it reserved, but haven't dropped money for any games yet. I'm reeeallly close to paying for DOA4, but I dunno if this is the appropriate place to make it public. :confused:

[Cap_Lethal_PW]

I wait till' I see the PS3 has to offer first and then I'll make my decision. it's too bad that the 360 didn't come with the HD DVD drive.

[orka]

Well, we don't really know how the final PS3 is going to look like as of now since Sony's been busy downgrading the system.

[Etcetera]

if you don't buy oblivion your'e gay, why buy another racing, sports game, when you can buy a game with over 500 hours of game play if not more.

www.elderscrolls.com
go son!!!^
I believe that is the only game worth getting a 360 for, that is unless someone has a pc that will be good enough to run oblivion when it is released.

This generation of games is going to be lame. I take it as a mixed blessing, just gives me more of a reason to go back to current gen stuff I missed and dreamcast, snes, or whatever.

[tsoteddy]

My buddy preordered it and is paying for it little by little. He's got almost all of it covered already.

So im definitely going to be chilling at his place that day.


Yeah im doing the same thing, its because it dosen't hurt much paying little by alittle and paying 400 big ones it really hurts and probably ill by DOA 4 and see whats up

A question to everyone, What will be the first game u will buy for the 360?

[snakedizzle209]

to me the 360 just feels like an Xbox 1.5. But I am interested in perfect dark zero, because I loved the original.

[Captain Ryu]

I will have one at launch... Probably with call of duty 2 and ghost recon 3. Cod2 looks fucking awesome. I cant believe people arent talking about it.

[FrazCTF4LIFE]

I will join you true hardcore gaming brother. I got my premium paid off including games that consist of DOA 4, Call of Duty 2, Project Gotham 3, Perfect Dark limited, Elder Scrolls, Kameo, and NBA 2K6. Im sure that i will get something else like Madden if its available. System bias sucks stop favoring one over the others it just seperates the community that way, ill be getting all three. Once again fanboys are not l33t.

[Captain Ryu]

Yeah I might be picking up doa4 also. Doau was ok i guess. It was kinda fun with the whole virtual arcade thing.

[Yasashiyama]

Don't early versions of systems go "bad" after a while? I remember when the PS2 first came out and some of their systems had to be returned over some trivial thing... In that case I'd rather wait until the price goes down or when all the bugs are fixed.

[Captain Ryu]

Yeah it happend with ps1, ps2, xbox and dreamcasts are always randomly breaking.

I had to play my ps1 upside down before it finally burnt out a few months later.

My ps2 was returned because the drive went bad. Good thing I had a warranty.

I went through 4 dreamcasts... Thanks god for the warranty. Fucking shit just didnt want to read disc's.

My xbox got a bad thompson drive and microsoft repaired it for free. It went bad again a few years later and they fixed it free again!

[Yasashiyama]

Yeah it happend with ps1, ps2, xbox and dreamcasts are always randomly breaking.

I had to play my ps1 upside down before it finally burnt out a few months later.

My ps2 was returned because the drive went bad. Good thing I had a warranty.

I went through 4 dreamcasts... Thanks god for the warranty. Fucking shit just didnt want to read disc's.

My xbox got a bad thompson drive and microsoft repaired it for free. It went bad again a few years later and they fixed it free again!
Now that I think about it my older brother's X-Box turned to crap a few months ago. I'm not sure if it's one of the early models but it sure doesn't help now...

A gaming PC is sounding more secure to me by the second now...

[orka]

Now that I think about it my older brother's X-Box turned to crap a few months ago. I'm not sure if it's one of the early models but it sure doesn't help now...

A gaming PC is sounding more secure to me by the second now...

We wouldn't be playing fighting games if all there was a PC, though (at least not in a home setting unless you like emulators)... I've always been a console gamer anyway myself.

[Yasashiyama]

We wouldn't be playing fighting games if all there was a PC, though (at least not in a home setting unless you like emulators)... I've always been a console gamer anyway myself.
That's where Mugen saves the day! (except for the fact that most of the sites are French...). Unless Street Fighter 4 comes out for either console I REALLY can't find a reason to buy them. And even then I'd probably would have more fun finding all the good fighting games for Dreamcast (which I still love from the bottom of my heart).

[tsoteddy]

I will have one at launch... Probably with call of duty 2 and ghost recon 3. Cod2 looks fucking awesome. I cant believe people arent talking about it.

I'm not into the first person shooter much but when i saw the trailer for ghost recon 3 i was hooked right away even berfore playing it, I was watching the trailer and i crap my pant because of the AWESOME look it had, but people are not talking about this game much neither its calle Dead Rising it look F*cking awesome check this trailer out it will suprise u http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=6087&type=mov i was thinking imagine this game with online multiplayer and headset in it it will be a perfect horror movie come into gameplay and i alway think in being in this situation, i think this would be the closet ill ever incounter but check it out it look really good

[SeñorTapatio]

Ive already per-ordered mine but Im not going to stay over night for it I got work. Ill just pick it up in the afternoon when all the everyone is gone.

[_MJ_#R]

Yes ill be picking one up. PS3 is too far away (2007 I heard?). And Nintendo doesnt stand a chance (sorry its the truth).

Don't early versions of systems go "bad" after a while? I remember when the PS2 first came out and some of their systems had to be returned over some trivial thing... In that case I'd rather wait until the price goes down or when all the bugs are fixed.

Hell na my first gen ps2 is freaking tough! The tray always jams up on me and I havta physically ram the tray real hard to shut it and it closes and opens like normal. I use the knife trick w/ swap trick for a long while and the laser is still good and stuff.

[PopTardO]

won my from pepsi so looking forward to it =)

[AL the great]

if you don't buy oblivion your'e gay, why buy another racing, sports game, when you can buy a game with over 500 hours of game play if not more.

www.elderscrolls.com
go son!!!^


oh i'll buy it alright. for pc.

[MeelJ]

If Xbox 360 is going to be $400. I can only imagine what the PS3 will be priced as.
But If I decide to get one, I'll be in line at midnight.

[Infested Jester]

Two guys at my job asked me if I was getting one at launch and I said no. They looked shocked as shit cause they know I buy so many games, systems, etc. They asked how come so I replied with:

"What game/s are you most looking foward to at launch?"

Neither gave me an answer. :rolleyes:

Serioulsy though, if Gears of War had been a launch game I would have gotten one for sure, until then I'm gonna wait.

[Steel Dragon]

Yea gears of war looks pimp, but im still in it for PDZ if its not available on launch day i wont even bother to pick mine up.

[Rioting Soul]

Is Quake IV going to be a launch title?

[{PFH}-Lake]

I would get xbox 360 but it lacks in rpgs, platformers. I know xbox had some platformers but none of them were as good as Jak and Daxter or Rachet and Clank. I also know 360 will not have as many greatest hits as ps3 like Devil may cry 4, MGS4. Xbox to be would have been better if capcom, konnmi and squarenix made more games for 360.


If a megaman game comes out its going to be for ps3, if a FF comes out or dragon quest it will come out for ps3, and any rockstar game comes out for PS3 then youll have to wait a month for it to come out for xbox. Sure 360 will have Halo but I dont play Halo games or Fable, and they have to many sports and racing games, sure people like those games but not everyone likes sports games. Mircosoft needs more Rpgs and good platformers then I might buy 360.

[maxx]

i'm hearing rediculous prices on ps3..like i hear shit like 600 bucks...yo if this is true..360 is my boy.

[Superking]

Yes ill be picking one up. PS3 is too far away (2007 I heard?). And Nintendo doesnt stand a chance (sorry its the truth).


PS3 is Spring 2006, there hasn't been any news saying other wise, :confused:

On topic, no, but I have entered in a Doritos-Pepsi contest that lets you win one and get it before it comes out in stores.

Yes the chances are uber slim, but meh, the Doritos were good and in the end that's all that matters. :tup:

[orka]

If Xbox 360 is going to be $400. I can only imagine what the PS3 will be priced as.
But If I decide to get one, I'll be in line at midnight.

Sony originally planned to release the PS3 at somewhere around $700~$900. But since the Xbox 360 is $400, that is apparently not good for the competition. It costs Sony about $400 to currently produce each unit of PS3. So currently Sony is scrambling to downgrade their system and try to save as much cost as possible.

The problem with the PS3 is that many of its components are proprietary, much like the PSP... which keeps the production cost high for them.

Even with the changes that is going to be made to the PS3, it is estimated that Sony's computer entertainment department will be forced to tackle a $1billion loss for a year.

[snakedizzle209]

Sony originally planned to release the PS3 at somewhere around $700~$900. But since the Xbox 360 is $400, that is apparently not good for the competition. It costs Sony about $400 to currently produce each unit of PS3. So currently Sony is scrambling to downgrade their system and try to save as much cost as possible.

The problem with the PS3 is that many of its components are proprietary, much like the PSP... which keeps the production cost high for them.

Even with the changes that is going to be made to the PS3, it is estimated that Sony's computer entertainment department will be forced to tackle a $1billion loss for a year.

I dont think PS3 was ever gonna be anything over 500$. It costs 500 to make one and it's most likely gonna be 400. But who buys a Playstation with out an extra controller or 2 (or 6 in this case) a memory card and all that stuff. And after time it's gonna get way cheaper to produce them, hell it may get cheaper before the console is even out. Sony's just fine.

[Black Chanler]

I dunno, I think alot of decisions will depend on how perfect dark zero turns out, I know mines will.

[orka]

I don't really plan on buying American games... I might buy the new Project Gotham, but that's about it.

It'll be DOA4, then all Japanese RPGs.

[elhandro]

(A little off track)

I just read this on Gamespot and had to quote it bc it was so profound.............

"With a system launch, there's no breathing room to delay a game simply because it doesn't "feel ready." To counter this, console launch strategy merely dictates that focus and resources be spent on ensuring that each genre is adequately filled with at least one strong game, rather than rushing out games that overlap genres. The goal is to make sure that there's something for everyone who's thinking of buying a system at launch. "

I totally understand why some of the games won't be up to par when the system is released. MS is trying to capitalise on the BEST time of year to release a new system, so of course there has to be a good amount of games to compliment the purchase. I really dont believe that first batch of games is a good representation of what the 360 is capable of....Would be buyers should be thinkin long term instead of instant Gratification, Just like with every other launch.

I am really looking forward as to what the 360 can do as opposed to the sony smoke and mirror hype. After sony gets done downgrading the PS3, I really feel a lot of people will be dissappointed and if you believe that the US will get a PS3 in the spring, thats just plain ridiculous. Look forward to a Fall release at the earliest and a $400 minus the hardrive.

Im on the edge whether to buy one at launch or wait till after christmas. I really dont need to have one right away, the games look good but i have a back log of xbox & PS2 games to finish that look really good. Im waiting to here how PDZ scores and plays.

General Insight
-I expect two US shipments. 1 for launch and another right b4 Christmas.
-Sony will drop an ish full of images, videos and price right b4 launch of the 360......I think eveyone expects that.
-Dont over look Kameo !! That game looks fantastic.
-People will bitch......Inevitable

El ( Has anyone mentioned what kind of file type the 360 will support through its media player, will it be just like Windows Media Center.)

[N-Ken]

I want to play Oblivion, but aside from that I dont have a reason to be an early adopter, I'll wait until the games look good(shit might never buy one)

I know this though, It would take a fucking HELL of a lot to get me interested in PS3 at all, the entire design is a huge turnoff.:bluu:

[cancerBoy]

Holy Fuck Oblivion Has Picard On The Voice Cast Too Broken!!!!!1111111$!@#($!o*@#&$!o*@# Picard For The Win!!@($!@*#$!

[tragik]

You know, right now the PS3 hype is minimal. It would be in M$ and Nintendo's best interest to focus in Quality much more than Quantity, but as of right now, i dont think either is going to be able to significantly cut into Sony's market...

[elhandro]

i dont think either is going to be able to significantly cut into Sony's market...

I do not agree....
I think sony is having all kinds of issues at the present momment internally with its business model and its resources are being spread very thin. This isnt going to be like last gen with sony dominating the market. The PSP is still trying to find itself in the market, people have been waiting since launch for a system selling game. Apple is pushin up on sony in the portable video market, MS has a head start and a easy to develope for system and NIN is trying to innovate, plus the DS is putting out quality. Not to mention on the public reaction to blue-ray, no work on a online strategy, a shitty controller, and still no playable games. Call me crazy but sony has there work cut out for them, especially if launch games arent up to that KillZone 2 level of quality that they flauntered around at E3.

El ( Sony must be thinkin that the PSP is a nightmare with all the hackin, thats been done)

[fubarduck]

I don't really plan on buying American games... I might buy the new Project Gotham, but that's about it.

It'll be DOA4, then all Japanese RPGs.
You will have to buy a Japanese 360 then. Already confirmed to be region locked, and I would expect a pretty long wait for a mod of any kind.

I am in the same boat as you, I have no interest in any of the American games whatsoever but I wouldn't mind picking up DOA4 and trying out Enchant Arm. If I buy a 360, it will definitely be Japanese.

[The Chief]

Fubar - Do you play or have you heard of Phantom Dust?

It was a Japanese Xbox title that came to America recently.

[fubarduck]

Fubar - Do you play or have you heard of Phantom Dust?

It was a Japanese Xbox title that came to America recently.
Heard of it, have no idea what it is. The only console I have here in Japan is a PS2. Still undecided on the 360, probably wait for the Famitsu game reviews of the launch titles before I make my decision.

[KneelB4Me]

Scoot I always see you playing FPS's. Which one are you playing atm? Brothers in eachothers arms? That shit sounds gay:rofl:

I'll be picking the 360 big pack up on launch. Havent pre-ordered, but Im not worried on missing out. I think I should find one on launch. Have done so far with every other console Ive bought. I'm hoping to get Oblivion and Project Gotham 3. Might get a few other bits and pieces if I have the money and interest.

[The Chief]

Heard of it, have no idea what it is. The only console I have here in Japan is a PS2. Still undecided on the 360, probably wait for the Famitsu game reviews of the launch titles before I make my decision.

Okay, I was just curious. I was gonna ask about the games fan base because those who play it here are very receptive of it and are dedicated players.

I also am uncertain about purchasing the 360. I didn't reserve it because of the amount of speculation behind it. If I do buy it it will be for FPS purposes, mainly Quake 4, UC and Halo.

Scoot I always see you playing FPS's. Which one are you playing atm? Brothers in eachothers arms? That shit sounds gay:rofl:


lmao! :rofl:

[Captain Ryu]

Scoot I always see you playing FPS's. Which one are you playing atm? Brothers in eachothers arms? That shit sounds gay:rofl:

I'll be picking the 360 big pack up on launch. Havent pre-ordered, but Im not worried on missing out. I think I should find one on launch. Have done so far with every other console Ive bought. I'm hoping to get Oblivion and Project Gotham 3. Might get a few other bits and pieces if I have the money and interest.

Lol it's brothers in arms... Shit is hot.

[snakedizzle209]

Fubar - Do you play or have you heard of Phantom Dust?

It was a Japanese Xbox title that came to America recently.

My friend just got that game on his Xbox yesterday. I havent played it yet though.

[Mycah Leonhart]

I just pray that Perfect Dark Zero will be good, I've been waiting on this game for too long and it's my "System Getter" - If I don't grab one within the 1st shipment, I'll get one from the 2nd shipment.

My list of reasons to get a 360.......

PDZ
Tokyo XTreme Racer ONLINE
SNK Fighting Games
Guilty Gear
Shenmue III
Forza 2
Halo 3

[tsoteddy]

wow im suprised of what people think of the system i though everyone would want to get it

[akumatrunigga]

I wait till' I see the PS3 has to offer first and then I'll make my decision. it's too bad that the 360 didn't come with the HD DVD drive.
Man just say that you are getting the PS3! you know you are!


I think sony is having all kinds of issues at the present momment internally with its business model and its resources are being spread very thin. This isnt going to be like last gen with sony dominating the market. The PSP is still trying to find itself in the market, people have been waiting since launch for a system selling game.

Good points, Sony has been in trouble for minute anyway. The majority of sales is from there PS brand and Samsung (Samsung has been rising in televisions), Toshiba are kicking there asses right now. So they really need this console to do very well. Apple is kicking there is asses in portable video (stated earlier) let's not even state any further with the Ipod, nokia is kicking ass in the cell market, there is no chance for them against Dell, No matter how much you put it Sony is in deep shit inspite of their sales of Playstation. As for the system selling, it may be that Liberty stories game but who knows.

Remember that "gaming ghetto" bullshit the Sony games head guy said :lol:, in reference to PSP?! I haven't seen anything from sony, I guess we are still in the ghetto!

[cancerBoy]

The majority of sales is from there PS brand and Samsung (Samsung has been rising in televisions).
:wtf: how does sony benefit from samsung's sales? they are totally seperate companies.

[orka]

Samsung tried to buy Sony at one point, actually.

Sounds ridiculous, but it's true.

Majority of Samsung's profit come from their single-transistor sales, which they have a very solid stronghold on.

[Johnny]

Well I already got mine pre-order and the games I'm getting is Perfect Dark Zero and DOA 4.

[akumatrunigga]

:wtf: how does sony benefit from samsung's sales? they are totally seperate companies.
That was a typo I was stating that Sony isnt doing to well, other companies such as Samsung are on the rise and catching up in other markets.

[tsoteddy]

Ghost recon has been pushed till 2k6 sorry for the bad news

[caliagent#3]

Tokyo XTreme Racer ONLINE



My life will cease to exist, if TXR online ever comes state side

Edit: HOLY SHIT! i just saw the trailer on gamespot...this shit better come to the US

[Pimp Willy]

The XBox 360 is not shipping with anything other than a standard DVD rom, like the XBox has now. With all this push for the "HD Era," Microsoft isn't giving developers the necessary data space for the increase in graphics. What is their option, an install disc like a PC? Nope, because the HD is not standard on all 360's, not allowed either. Because of this single reason, I am not getting a 360 at launch, nor possibly ever. Even though I am dying to play Elder Scrolls more than anything I've seen for PS3, I'd shell out $400 in PC upgrades before $400 for a slight x-box upgrade.

As for the PS3, shit is too far away to guess how its going to turn out. However, look at it this way, if it costs them $500 to make each unit now, in 8 months its going to cost <$400. Jackpot. PS3 is not scheduled to hit american shores until Fall 2006, a year from now. Thats a long way away, and a long way to gauge reaction to the 360 and adjust accordingly. Its not like the current gen, where Sony had the market for years, and then Microsoft comes along and says "Hey, check out our product!" 1 year won't mean much 4 years from now.

Microsoft may be first to the market, but the only thing they're doing is pushing out their own current top of the market (in terms of power) system, to make way for a slightly better one, when the real big boy looms around the horizon ready to strike.

However, I will be there at launch all night to get a 360 to sell on E-Bay the next day.

[tsoteddy]

cool thnx for the comments so far

[orka]

Has anybody played the demos at Wal-Mart?

I don't think I will have the financial luxury of buying one on launch anymore, though. It would've been possible if I saved money and didn't spend so much on food, anime, other games and crap on a constant basis... but noooo. I'm just a dumb college student. T_T

Now I'm gonna have $120+ useless EB store credits...

[lseelba]

The XBox 360 is not shipping with anything other than a standard DVD rom, like the XBox has now. With all this push for the "HD Era," Microsoft isn't giving developers the necessary data space for the increase in graphics. What is their option, an install disc like a PC? Nope, because the HD is not standard on all 360's, not allowed either. Because of this single reason, I am not getting a 360 at launch, nor possibly ever. Even though I am dying to play Elder Scrolls more than anything I've seen for PS3, I'd shell out $400 in PC upgrades before $400 for a slight x-box upgrade.

(snip)

However, I will be there at launch all night to get a 360 to sell on E-Bay the next day.
Yeah...I don't really want an Xbox 1.5 (360 my ass). Especially since my modded Xbox is so pimp.

BTW, how much money do you think you can make reselling the system on Ebay???

[Etcetera]

Microsoft may be first to the market, but the only thing they're doing is pushing out their own current top of the market (in terms of power) system, to make way for a slightly better one, when the real big boy looms around the horizon ready to strike.
One would think they would have learned from the dreamcast.

[orka]

Well, I personally think Dreamcast belongs in the PS1/N64 generation in terms of specs.

The Xbox 360 is in the similar position PS2 was in opening the current generation back in 2001, IMO.

[IceBeast]

360 is gonna beat the PS3 by 7 months? FIRST SMART MOVE BY MICROSOFT IN A LOONG TIME.

I am not interested in next gen consoles........... I have my PS2 and pretty much all the fighting games I will ever need. I just need a friend who is foolish enough to buy one and leach the hell out of him! :encore: :encore:

[blood_sin]

There is nothing, so far, that looks groundbreaking for 360. Most of them are just Xbox games with slightly improved graphics. If you have a ps2, there are still plenty of games to tide you over until ps3. Okami, Subsistence, KH2, FFXII, Black all look good.

[Septimus Prime]

There is nothing, so far, that looks groundbreaking for 360. Most of them are just Xbox games with slightly improved graphics. If you have a ps2, there are still plenty of games to tide you over until ps3. Okami, Subsistence, KH2, FFXII, Black all look good.
Co-sign. I looked at a Call of Duty 2 kiosk today, and it just looked like a slightly better version of an Xbox game.

It'll be PS3 and Rev for me this time (like it was PS2 and Cube last time).

[apokalipze2]

um most of them look like xbox games because they're still 1st gen titles. I would wait till next year to see what the 360 could really do.

[Darkside3024]

il wait until all the 3 systems are out to choose one...
Co-sign.

[Chaos]

I have one ready to be picked up on launch date for the exclusive reason of selling it on Ebay. Viva capitalism!!

[platinum_pinoy]

I'd probably invest in the PS3 and Revolution. PS3 first though; Revolution still has yet to show any games...period.

[Captain Ryu]

Co-sign. I looked at a Call of Duty 2 kiosk today, and it just looked like a slightly better version of an Xbox game.

It'll be PS3 and Rev for me this time (like it was PS2 and Cube last time).

Check out cod on xbox... Then check out cod 2. I played the pc version of cod 2 and it looks a hell of a lot better than any xbox game.

[DJ NGGR]

^^ same thing, I bought CoD2 for PC and its amazing, but I was never interested in dropping $50 for an Xbox version anyways.

But I read a review on another forum of Perfect Dark Zero, they gave is 9.7. The AI is on point, its a very challenging game, in the way that you cant always just run in there and beast with 2 guns.

It's got fully working online CO-OP mode, and theres no checkpoints for Co-Op since each partner has a revive kit

if your partner dies, it takes 5 seconds of you using the revive kit to bring him back

seems like a short time but when you're in a firefight that shit is ALL DAY

I'll be picking up that for now

[tsoteddy]

1 WEEK FROM TODAY , well 1 week and a day but the ebgames that i work at will be opening at 12

[Dios <-X->]

I won tickets to that Xbox Zero hour launch party in palmdale and me and a friend are rolling up there and playing game for the next 2 days and picking up a 360 premium package most likely nice to be able to play 32 player perfect dark and gears of war along with other games that were not playable as of yet. itll really suck me in and ill truely see if im with the hype to buy a 360.

Im really thinking about it due to all the money you will save on the premium package, the remote contorller is a limited time offer. the HD is 100 alone, free headset, and free upgrade from wired controller to wireless. Plus the free launch day faceplates for the 360 will fetch a pretty penny on ebay.

the E3 ones were a limited of 5000 made and go for 250 on ebay, i think only 3000 people are going to this event , meaning it will be more rare in time.

[AcEtUrNeDjOkEr]

Circuit City has on their website that they will sell 360 package friday at 2PM est.....I feel a cold coming on....

[Chachi]

Picking it up next Monday at midnight, along with CoD2, Madden, and either Quake 4 or PGR3. They should make up for the fact that I won't be able to play fighters online for awhile.

GR3 and Oblivion will be the shit as well.

[ChairHome]

Circuit City has on their website that they will sell 360 package friday at 2PM est.....I feel a cold coming on....

http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000177067878/

Circuit City made a mistake.

[PopTardO]

got my x box 360....awesome machine, next gen graphic is amazing and i dont even have hd tv

http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13030199qc.jpg

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8738/13030212hn.jpg

[Dios <-X->]

i can see the * ring of light * is 75% empty...wonder why....

[YellowS4]

goddamn pepsi challenge lol. fuck! good stuff adrian

[PopTardO]

because each controller u link up turn on 25% more of the ring of light

[Dios <-X->]

=o!!!

[1]

got my x box 360....awesome machine, next gen graphic is amazing and i dont even have hd tv

http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13030199qc.jpg

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8738/13030212hn.jpg


fucking-a. nice man. I can't wait to pick mine up and play PGR3 'till my eyes bleed.

Have fun :tup:

[Etcetera]

because each controller u link up turn on 25% more of the ring of light
So it is just going to look goofy unless you are playing a four person game. That is fucking retarded.

[Shazay]

got my x box 360....awesome machine, next gen graphic is amazing and i dont even have hd tv

http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13030199qc.jpg

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8738/13030212hn.jpg


I would've Ebayed that so fast, would've gotten at least a free game out of profits (as in buy it back after it comes out, lol) but thats just me :bgrin:

Looks pretty sweet though.

[elhandro]

because each controller u link up turn on 25% more of the ring of light


Why havent you started a thread at least reviewing the game.......

Yah Im jealous.

El

[WasFemto]

So does the full version of Kameo look better than the demo version in Wal-Mart?

[PopTardO]

we dont have demo units of x box 360 here so i cant compare if the retail looks better than the demo. Im currently playing it on a flat screen tv (not HD) and the graphics are just amazing, everything is very detail and the whole game just feel Next-Gen

i cant review the game becuz i only played like 1 hr

[mr. newbie]

ridge racer 6. i'm buying one at launch. i love nothing more than new hardware. oh and i have modded xbox for everythign taht doesn't work.

[roninwarrior24]

I'm not sure if it's worth it. I mostly play fighters, action adventures (i.e. DMC), and RPGs, so until some good Square Enix games come out (which they should because of Microsoft boasting about how they got their support), It ain't gonna be at my home. Don't really like sports, FPSs, or racers, and that makes up around 90% of the launch lineup.

Microsoft BETTER have some quality Japanese titles this time. They cannot boast that much for nothing. I'm really hoping for some GOOD Square Enix games. They better not dissapoint me. If they get ANY kind of "traditional" FF (meaning no 11), than I'm getting the 360.

[Superking]

I'm not sure if it's worth it. I mostly play fighters, action adventures (i.e. DMC), and RPGs, so until some good Square Enix games come out (which they should because of Microsoft boasting about how they got their support), It ain't gonna be at my home. Don't really like sports, FPSs, or racers, and that makes up around 90% of the launch lineup.

Microsoft BETTER have some quality Japanese titles this time. They cannot boast that much for nothing. I'm really hoping for some GOOD Square Enix games. They better not dissapoint me. If they get ANY kind of "traditional" FF (meaning no 11), than I'm getting the 360.

The first Squeenix game thus far is...a port of Final Fantasy 11.

[1]

I'm not sure if it's worth it. I mostly play fighters, action adventures (i.e. DMC), and RPGs, so until some good Square Enix games come out (which they should because of Microsoft boasting about how they got their support), It ain't gonna be at my home. Don't really like sports, FPSs, or racers, and that makes up around 90% of the launch lineup.

Microsoft BETTER have some quality Japanese titles this time. They cannot boast that much for nothing. I'm really hoping for some GOOD Square Enix games. They better not dissapoint me. If they get ANY kind of "traditional" FF (meaning no 11), than I'm getting the 360.


Yea I agree. I'll get the 360 Jap dev support or not. (that's why I'm getting the PS3)
The 360 has better Japanese support than the 360 already. I know that's not saying much but it's something.

Resident Evil 5
99 Nights
[eM] -eNCHANT arM

[caliagent#3]

http://video.gprime.net/media/video/stolenxbox360.wmv

[lseelba]

http://video.gprime.net/media/video/stolenxbox360.wmv

That kid shouldn't have shown his face in the video. He's getting arrested for sure now. :sad:

[aa_overmind]

EVERYTHING XBOX 360 SHALL BE POSTED HERE!! THANKS - MODERATORS



I work at Best Buy


and I just found out how many XBOX 360's we are going to get.

only 60

and thats including both packages

I found out how many XBOX 360's other stores that are not BB or Wal-Mart are going to get

Less than 10

And they told me at work that we might not get anymore 360s until January 2006.

When the PSP came out, we got more than 250 units.


Its going to be one hell-of-a holiday.

[Hunter D]

Let the bodies hit the floor!

[1]

I work at Best Buy


and I just found out how many XBOX 360's we are going to get.

only 60

and thats including both packages

I found out how many XBOX 360's other stores that are not BB or Wal-Mart are going to get

Less than 10

And they told me at work that we might not get anymore 360s until January 2006.

When the PSP came out, we got more than 250 units.


Its going to be one hell-of-a holiday.


The manager at my local Gamestop says theyre getting 25 including both Core and premium. He also said that the next shipments will be coming once a week after Nov. 22.

[aa_overmind]

I'll be working on release day

Im going to see all systems sell out

And worse, deal with all the lazy customers who think we still have some left in the afternoon, and this trend will continue even after Christmas.

FUCK!!!

[Manx]

You're going to need that PSP to chuck like a ninja star at someone trying to jack your 360. These are desparate times indeed. :tup:

[Dan?]

I'll be working on release day

Im going to see all systems sell out

And worse, deal with all the lazy customers who think we still have some left in the afternoon, and this trend will continue even after Christmas.

FUCK!!!

Soccer Moms vs. You = Sol Badguy vs. Sickly kitten with brick taped to its back

[Demon Dash]

Gutter.

[Darkside3024]

I already know people gonna murk each other over 360s. This shit is gonna be hilairious.

[Storming Flower]

microsoft is making shortages purposely to create hype

[Galactic]

Shit man... I feel you. I worked at a local video game store when PS2 first came out and we only got like.... 12.

'Tis the season... to get trampled.

Be safe bro, don't let it stress you out too much...

^_-;

[Striderhyru05]

i work at circuit city, they told us last month we were gettin 100, split between core and premium, we found out today we are only getting 10

(theres about 50 people that are gonna camp outside and they dont know we're only getting 10, i dont plan on telling them either they can eat a dick)

[Dios <-X->]

Good thing i won tickets to zero launch where there will be enough 360's to go around for everyone! everyone that goes is gaurenteed one if they have the money roffle yay for me.

too bad after i buy the console ill be broke ;-;

[SNkNuT]

Its not an exactly must have system for me but still its next gen and people will fight over it.

[Steel Dragon]

I rest assured that mine is paid off and will be handed over at midnight Nov.22

[TigerGenocide]

It's the same thing they did with Furby.

[mr. newbie]

http://www.gamersreports.com/news/64/ allocation sheets.

[cancerBoy]

yeah it's a intentional shortage. it's hard not to sell out when my store gets 20. i tactfully called the xbox rep on the shanannigans and he went into a prepared damage control speech. i'm doing the launch in the morning and checking the door as people line up making a list of who came first... too bad, i wanted to see some fist-fights.

one interesting tid-bit i can give out is that of the games i have received so far, "Gun", which has also been out for regular xbox for a few weeks, is also available on the 360 for $10 more (it's the EXACT same game). and madden 06 at -$23- more. hopefully these prices will be fine-tuned before launch but if not it's pretty scary.

[S.a.g.a]

GET THIS SHIT ON TAPE, DAMNIT!!!!!

I figure I'd tell you bastards early this time in hopes of one of you actually doing and uploading it.

[Nemesis00]

I don't understand why people are so crazy to get the newest console as soon as possible.

[1]

does best buy take reserves, if so is it still possible to reserve?

[caliagent#3]

I don't understand why people are so crazy to get the newest console as soon as possible.


First gen, is the easiest to mod

[Nemesis00]

Most of these people don't even get the thing to mod it. They buy the system to play one of the seven games out for it. Is it so hard to wait a year for an inevitable price drop, wider game selection, and higher dependibility in the system?

[phae]

:lol:

This reminds me of the opening chapters of Jennifer Government.. with the nike shoes. They only sold 200 pairs and had a worldwide shortage.. and they unleashed the other pairs. But they killed like 10 people who bought the shoes (these shoes were like $1000), to give themselves even more hype..

Good book, too.

[ShotoKlownIori]

^That shit sounds good. I'm looking it up!

-I say you all should have fun with this. If you work at a retail store that will be carrying these, get there early and tell the people waiting 'oh shit, i think we're only getting 10!" And watch (and hopefully videotape) the hilarity ensue.
Later on in the day, once you're all out, tell people that ask that you'll go look to see if there's one left and leave them hanging for a few minutes, and then tell them to check back tomorrow. :rofl:

To the rest, if you have the time, get in that line and start some shit. bring a bat and say 'damn, i heard there fucks are only going to be getting 10, and i reserved mine, so i'm gonna fuck someone's day up if i dont get one.'

Edit: My buddy just told me he wont get his on day 1 even though he preordered it and already paid for it. He's #108 in their list. :rofl:
We're gonna go start some shit that morning....:devil:

[Mr.Q]

and people wonder why i hate microsoft.

[phae]

^That shit sounds good. I'm looking it up!

-I say you all should have fun with this. If you work at a retail store that will be carrying these, get there early and tell the people waiting 'oh shit, i think we're only getting 10!" And watch (and hopefully videotape) the hilarity ensue.
Later on in the day, once you're all out, tell people that ask that you'll go look to see if there's one left and leave them hanging for a few minutes, and then tell them to check back tomorrow. :rofl:

To the rest, if you have the time, get in that line and start some shit. bring a bat and say 'damn, i heard there fucks are only going to be getting 10, and i reserved mine, so i'm gonna fuck someone's day up if i dont get one.'

Edit: My buddy just told me he wont get his on day 1 even though he preordered it and already paid for it. He's #108 in their list. :rofl:
We're gonna go start some shit that morning....:devil:

You can read chapter one of the book on nationstates.net, and do a wikipedia search on Jennifer Government to pull up more info.

It's a really great book.

[graffiti_sex]

lmao

Launch Xbox360 games are gonna be so Xbox 1.1

[NYPhrost]

ok so i'm watching CSI:NY and the news brief came on, and they said that they are lineing up already in midtown to buy it.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!! IT DOESN'T COME OUT TILL THE 22ND.

I'm in no rush. I'll wait.

[1]

ok so i'm watching CSI:NY and the news brief came on, and they said that they are lineing up already in midtown to buy it.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!! IT DOESN'T COME OUT TILL THE 22ND.

I'm in no rush. I'll wait.
Haha I thought I was bad planning to wait all day Monday.

Yes, I need to have the console the very second it releases and I want to make sure I get it.

[Nemesis00]

Haha I thought I was bad planning to wait all day Monday.

Yes, I need to have the console the very second it releases and I want to make sure I get it.
Because...

[Darkside3024]

lmao

Launch Xbox360 games are gonna be so Xbox 1.1
lol. Say that shit on launch day in front of Gamestop. Record it too.

[Return of Shiki]

Fuck microsoft...

My store was going to have about 50...now it's been cut to less than 20.

And if any of you dumbass X-Box fanboys come to my store and give ME shit about it, I will rip open your stomachs and choke you all with your own intestines.

[1]

Because...


Because it's what I want to do.

To each his own right?

[Colt Steele]

LOL @ all the Microsoft hate. Like they're the first ones to do this right on the cusp of the holiday season. I'll get mine whenver I get around to it, and never know the difference from getting it later in the system's life cycle, except maybe not have the memories of playing real life Dynasty Warriors in the stores trying to get one at launch. The people that truly wanted theirs first paid it off weeks/months ago, and the ones that aren't stressing over it will get theirs when they get around to it. It's all the rest in between that are causing the unnecessary headache.

[aa_overmind]

ok so i'm watching CSI:NY and the news brief came on, and they said that they are lineing up already in midtown to buy it.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!! IT DOESN'T COME OUT TILL THE 22ND.

I'm in no rush. I'll wait.

I actually had customers tell me if they should camp out on Sunday before its release.

Whats worse, is that employees are forbidden to buy a XBOX360 until next year
WTF!!!!

And everyone says employees get first dibs on new release systems.


We are going to get molested by customers who came in late to buy it, especially Soccer Moms..

Whats funny, is that we are going to put out a large sign sayin "We Ran Out of XBOX 360's and we don't know when to expect more" and yet they are still going come in and say something stupid like "Do you have any 360s"
IDIOTS!!!!!

I say buy one, sell it for 4x the amount, you'll guarantee a sale.

[Pimp Willy]

You know whats going to be the worst?

For all the Gamestop and EB Games customers that have had it reserved for months, who paid off the entire thing in advance, and who STILL won't get one at launch. I remember we were reserving them like 6 months ago, and only took GUARANTEED pre-orders for about 2 weeks. But even then, at our gamestop, we reserved 20+. If the company hasn't even got that first order covered, I'd say there is going to be some seriously pissed customers. Plus, all Gamestop Store Managers are douchebags.

[AL the great]

www.smashmyxbox.com


that is all.

[cancerBoy]

hmm. these things seem pretty popular. my store asked me to work the launch but i may decide to decline and purchase on myself - to sell of course to someone without the patience to line-up. it can't be that bad, mine is a grocery store so i'm sure most of the people in the morning line-up are there to buy the expiring meat.

[blood_sin]

I think I can get one because my sis is a manager of a Target. I don't intend to keep it though, it's going on ebay!

[akumatrunigga]

Why all of the microsoft hate, they do the same thing on just about every console around holiday season! They did the same shit with PS2 when it first came out! With the limited order bullshit that Xbox 360 is doing now. Any electronic product such as this is going to do this hands down!!! Just wait like the rest of us.

[Fadedsun303]

I thought of a good idea to make some money. Preorder a couple 360's and post them up on ebay for $1000+ around christmas time. And when they sell out some rich people will buy them for their kids because they won't be able to get them in stores. You'll be able to double the money you spent on them. :tup:

[holler mcdollar]

I thought of a good idea to make some money. Preorder a couple 360's and post them up on ebay for $1000+ around christmas time. And when they sell out some rich people will buy them for their kids because they won't be able to get them in stores. You'll be able to double the money you spent on them. :tup:

NO WAY DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD WORK??

/sarcasm

[caliagent#3]

Some people just get everything day 1. I remember when dvd players first came out. My bought his the first day they were available, same with ipods, and Laserdisc:rofl:. I'm getting first gen xbox becuase i want to mod it as soon as it's cracked and for the fact i like buying new shit. I'm not at all concerned with the disc drive dying, or the motherboard blowing up, because all you have to do is take that shit to walmart and they'll take it.

[DropOff]

I have yet to buy a console first day. Does that make me any less of a man? Probably but when it comes right down to it the launch games are always pretty weak. Except for dreamcast... :sad: now that was a launch.

[io]

www.smashmyxbox.com


that is all.

haha

[DC_StaTic]

i work at bestbuy in glendale and we were told that we are getting like 40% of 360's coming to the u.s for release shipment, were opening 5 a.m that day and we are expected to be sold out before 3 p.m now thats fucking sick but atleast we dont have to put up with pre orders like EB and others ... does your store open at 4 a.m also?

[Chachi]

Manager: OK, our database shows that you pre-ordered in June...

Customer: Yea.

Manager:... and you paid it off in July..

Customer: Yeah....

Manager: Well since our shipment was reduced from 100 to 2, we can get you in on January 14th.

Customer:....

Manager: Oh wait, you wanted the premium. You'll have to wait until March.

Customer:... are you OK?

Manager: Sure, I still get paid the sa-

Customer: BULLSHIT WOLF!!!! *blows up store, steals demo 360 from the wreckage*

[aa_overmind]

i work at bestbuy in glendale and we were told that we are getting like 40% of 360's coming to the u.s for release shipment, were opening 5 a.m that day and we are expected to be sold out before 3 p.m now thats fucking sick but atleast we dont have to put up with pre orders like EB and others ... does your store open at 4 a.m also?

We are going to open at 8 a.m.
Our store doesn't receive that much traffic so a we open later than yours.

But I had my 2:30 a.m. shifts myself.


With 360 launch date and Day after Thanksgiving, we are fucked!!!

[Manx]

Man, I'm glad I got out of retail before the next generation crap started up. There's no way I'd be able to stand a Xbox 360 Black Friday at Fry's.

[Mr.Q]

Why all of the microsoft hate, they do the same thing on just about every console around holiday season! They did the same shit with PS2 when it first came out! With the limited order bullshit that Xbox 360 is doing now. Any electronic product such as this is going to do this hands down!!! Just wait like the rest of us. I hate microsoft not just cause of wat there doing with 360. Microsoft have always been a company who likes to act like we can do watever we want and push around who ever we want and we dont care.

[DrumlinerJoe]

I think the funniest thing about the holiday season rush for 360's will be the uninformed parents who buy their kids the cheaper package and find out that's not what they wanted. I just get this wierd feeling there's gonna be a lot of returns to that effect and annoyed parents to go with it.

[El Maniatico]

So i guess camping bestbuy will be our best bet.

[snakedizzle209]

I heard that trying Toys R us is a good strategy because they dont do a midnight launch.

[PozerWolf]

Manager: OK, our database shows that you pre-ordered in June...

Customer: Yea.

Manager:... and you paid it off in July..

Customer: Yeah....

Manager: Well since our shipment was reduced from 100 to 2, we can get you in on January 14th.

Customer:....

Manager: Oh wait, you wanted the premium. You'll have to wait until March.

Customer:... are you OK?

Manager: Sure, I still get paid the sa-

Customer: BULLSHIT WOLF!!!! *blows up store, steals demo 360 from the wreckage*
Blah haahahahahhaha, did that shit really happen?

[SeñorTapatio]

Thankfully the EB around my house opened up in August this year I think. Only getting 12 shipments that include core and premium.

I thought of a good idea to make some money. Preorder a couple 360's and post them up on ebay for $1000+ around christmas time. And when they sell out some rich people will buy them for their kids because they won't be able to get them in stores. You'll be able to double the money you spent on them. :tup:

Thats what I thought about doing but I only have one. Going to wait till christmas so that all the procrastinating parents will pay shit loads of cash for my xbox on ebay.

At first I was happy knowing that "hey Im going to be one of the first people to have the xbbx 360" but the more and more I thought about it fuck that shit I can always wait till next year get my cash back and buy another 360 later and make some decent profit.

[aa_overmind]

Man, I'm glad I got out of retail before the next generation crap started up. There's no way I'd be able to stand a Xbox 360 Black Friday at Fry's.

Black Friday is reffered in all stores as Day after Thanksgiving.

Plus, there won't be any 360's left for Black Friday, unless they saved some in a store for that day.

[AL the great]

I thought of a good idea to make some money. Preorder a couple 360's and post them up on ebay for $1000+ around christmas time. And when they sell out some rich people will buy them for their kids because they won't be able to get them in stores. You'll be able to double the money you spent on them. :tup:

with average prices right now, premiums wont even go close to that at all.

i have a gut feeling the xbox will sell this christmas season but alot slower than people think. as for profit, i think you'll be royally fucked.
====

as for all you sexy kids camping for this thing i hope you camped where they do the smashmyxbox right in front of u guys:tup:

edit:
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4196274

just saved you fools like 10 hours in line.

[SeñorTapatio]

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4196274



Am I seeing this right when I check out the XBOX $300.00 for shipping. So a system that goes for $300 is going to go for $600.

Did I do something wrong fuck trying to buy another one.

[m121akuma]

I hate microsoft not just cause of wat there doing with 360. Microsoft have always been a company who likes to act like we can do watever we want and push around who ever we want and we dont care.
And Sony doesn't? LOL.

Yeah, I'm glad I'm not even bothering to get mine on launch. Not worth the stress. I am afraid if I go to Gamestop this weekend I'll get stabbed even if I just want to get Mario Kart or DBZ: Supersonic Warriors 2.

Speaking of Gamestop, I actually found intelligent Gamestop workers today. They weren't trying to overhype the 360 (then again, they were probably counting on the demo unit to speak for itself), they actually gave a rather clueless father a good analysis of the pros and cons of both portables (with a slight *gasp* Nintendo bias), and seemed to be fighting game fans. I was pleasantly shocked.

[Mr.Q]

And Sony doesn't? LOL.

Yeah, I'm glad I'm not even bothering to get mine on launch. Not worth the stress. I am afraid if I go to Gamestop this weekend I'll get stabbed even if I just want to get Mario Kart or DBZ: Supersonic Warriors 2.

Speaking of Gamestop, I actually found intelligent Gamestop workers today. They weren't trying to overhype the 360 (then again, they were probably counting on the demo unit to speak for itself), they actually gave a rather clueless father a good analysis of the pros and cons of both portables (with a slight *gasp* Nintendo bias), and seemed to be fighting game fans. I was pleasantly shocked. Sony doesnt push around companys for years. Sony doesnt goto court and get sued as many times as micro soft does. Bill Gates should be in jail for stealing peoples ideas and forcing people to use micro soft.

[Hunter D]

I think Mr. Q is a couple of cards short of a full deck.:looney:

[io]

Am I seeing this right when I check out the XBOX $300.00 for shipping. So a system that goes for $300 is going to go for $600.

Did I do something wrong fuck trying to buy another one.

haha, i saw that too. i just clicked to see for the hell of it. weird :xeye:

[Chachi]

Blah haahahahahhaha, did that shit really happen?I don't think it'll go that far, but a smart manager will lock shit up once they sell out. It's kind of hard selling DS game preorders when soccer moms are still questioning the fact that you sold out of your 360 allotment ("But you have the cases right in front of the window!").

[lseelba]

2 day shipping at walmart for the core system is $400. For the shipping alone.

My head asplode....

Seriously...I don't think it is legal for Walmart to charge that much in shipping for a $300 system.

[TheSix]

Call me when 360 gets a game that I can't play on my PC, and thats worth $460+.

Just came back from testing it out for a hour. Thank god I saved myself a night of sitting out in the cold.

[Manx]

Black Friday is reffered in all stores as Day after Thanksgiving.

Plus, there won't be any 360's left for Black Friday, unless they saved some in a store for that day.

I can see them bastards saying somehting like "We got 25 in for today only!" and then proceeding to crack whips at the pissed off customers. They wouldn't miss it for the world, Frys, and they have an uncanny ability to get ahold of stuff whenever they want.

[abacabb]

im not getting one until july8 2006. i can wait

[Captain Ryu]

http://www.gamersreports.com/news/64/ allocation sheets.

Good shit! I'm helping my friend get one at launch so this is good shit. I have lioke 4 best buys by me with over 200 systems spread out between them. I think we will get him one.

Shit I have nothing to worry about though... Reserved back in may.

[majeh]

KOOPS NOTE: This is the thread for everything x-box. EVERYTHING!!!! Have fun:tup: :tup:


it has "better" graphics, a new shape, and a "new" memory card design. so what am i missing that is so different than xbox now?

[VG Emblem]

Unless you're an HD whore, not much really...

[6pt7]

PS3 and Revolution emulation FTFW :badboy:

[Manx]

A bunch of friends and pen & paper and some beer FTW! :tup:

[AzN_Skater]

Sitting in front of the idiot box FTW!

[grave450]

it would appear to make money....maybe

[ShotoKlownIori]

A bunch of friends and pen & paper and some beer FTW! :tup:
I'm honestly not trying to be a dick. But i'm not sure you belong in this FIGHTING VIDEOGAME COMMUNITY.

On Topic: More, better games for you. More and More cash for VG companies. THAT is the only answer to your question. And it was the only answer to those who asked 'why SNES, Saturn, PS2, etc?"

[Serpent]

it has "better" graphics, a new shape, and a "new" memory card design. so what am i missing that is so different than xbox now?

Uh...I guess you didn't buy a Genesis or SNES, because they only had better graphics, a new shape, and hell, not even a memory card. Actually, you probably didn't get past the Commodore 64. Why buy something new if only the graphics and capabilities are improved? It makes no sense! /sarcasm

[snakedizzle209]

To get your hands on whatever you can.

360 to me is just something to fuck around with until the real next generation consoles come out.

[Super Warrior]

it has "better" graphics, a new shape, and a "new" memory card design. so what am i missing that is so different than xbox now?

"better"? Seems like the graphics are alot better. Played call of duty 2(i think) at a wal-mart display today and the visuals were pretty good and nearly lifelike. Since launch titles rarely ever come close to full use of a systems power,that is pretty good.

I'd imagine future games will look even better.

Won't be bothering with 360 though unless it shows some better stuff x-box 1 lacked.

[Mr.Q]

360-blows it only has like Racing and Sports games

[ClouDC]

well... I woundt buy a xbox 360...

just seems like it doesnt have too many ''xbox 360'' only games... all the games coming off at lauch seems like stuff that will be on every console anyway...

[hubcapsignstop]

Uh...I guess you didn't buy a Genesis or SNES, because they only had better graphics, a new shape, and hell, not even a memory card. Actually, you probably didn't get past the Commodore 64. Why buy something new if only the graphics and capabilities are improved? It makes no sense! /sarcasm
i think what hes asking is: How much improved is it? Is this new XBox improved enough to warrant shelling out the dough?
Using the example you brought up: How does the jump from NES to Gen/SNES compare to the jump from XBox/PS3 to XBox360?
* I myself dont know because I could give a shit about any of the video games coming out on the next gen things

[sixtymhz]

360-blows it only has like Racing and Sports games

"<[SA]HatfulOfHollow> i'm going to become rich and famous after i invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet"

[Mechanica]

It's basically Xbox 1.5, which you can't really deny, but people will try, certainly in this thread, as well. I'm not saying that's bad, it's just not a huge step up, it's a half-step.

[Mashf3st]

You dont like. you dont buy.

[Kid Wonder]

Because I never bought an X-Box?

[white shadow]

A really pretty paperweight.

[Hwoarvang]

So I can impress the kids on the block and than crawl back to my hole.

[Enki]

Everyone who wonders what next-gen graphics looks like only has to look at the PCs. Quake 4 engine, HL2 w/HDR lighting and UT2k7 are what's cutting edge out there, nothing Japan can do right now tops that. US has always been the leader in engine/graphics development, so I wouldn't expect anything to look better than those titles right now. And those games look pretty damn good.

[lseelba]

The MAJOR difference is that you can't mod a 360...yet.

I'll stick with my modded xboxes thank you very much.

[m121akuma]

Uh...I guess you didn't buy a Genesis or SNES, because they only had better graphics, a new shape, and hell, not even a memory card. Actually, you probably didn't get past the Commodore 64. Why buy something new if only the graphics and capabilities are improved? It makes no sense! /sarcasm
Quoted for truth.

And for those who don't think the graphics are improved enough, allow me to point you toward the first gen PS2 games. kthxbye.

[snakedizzle209]

Everyone who wonders what next-gen graphics looks like only has to look at the PCs. Quake 4 engine, HL2 w/HDR lighting and UT2k7 are what's cutting edge out there, nothing Japan can do right now tops that. US has always been the leader in engine/graphics development, so I wouldn't expect anything to look better than those titles right now. And those games look pretty damn good.

Yeah, but the US mainly tries to focus on FPS. IMO graphics dont matter.

Counter-strike 1.6 ftw.

[ParryAll]

US has always been the leader in engine/graphics development, so I wouldn't expect anything to look better than those titles right now. And those games look pretty damn good.

No, not always.

Find the PC game from 1996 that comes remotely close to Virtua Fighter 3 (also from 1996). Find the 97' PC game that looks as good as Scud Race (Super GT).

Back in the day Arcade hardware >>>> PC >>>> Home Console

But times have changed. Now it's more like PC>Home Console > or = to Arcade...

Maybe Sega's next arcade system (Lindbergh) will change things...

[ramza]

Quoted for truth.

And for those who don't think the graphics are improved enough, allow me to point you toward the first gen PS2 games. kthxbye.


Is that implying the first gen PS2 games weren't impressive? I don't know, all I bought was SSX, and that simply blew me away at that time. Madden 2001 was also fucking mind boggling when I first saw that game on PS2 hardware, as well.

[AHVB]

Is this true? or is this just a sony fanboy talking point?

When it comes to specs, how similar or different are they? And why are people calling it an xbox 1.5?

[Feyz]

The launch titles look rushed IMO...

[_MJ_#R]

pdz is damn good but not enough for me to buy a 360 yet.

[Mystic_bash]

It seems, That xbox 360 is more along the lines of a current computer in terms of graphics and how it handles shit. More or less, I guess its a xbox 1.5.....Cept without memory :)

[Akutabi Gamma]

it has "better" graphics, a new shape, and a "new" memory card design. so what am i missing that is so different than xbox now?
It'll support 2D fighters & X-Box 360 Arcade Live!

[Superking]

Maybe Sega's next arcade system (Lindbergh) will change things...

Lindbergh's Nvidia GPU will probably be similar to Nvidia's PS3 RSX GPU and next-gen PC GPU.

[Hunter D]

It seems, That xbox 360 is more along the lines of a current computer in terms of graphics and how it handles shit. More or less, I guess its a xbox 1.5.....Cept without memory :)
What are you talking about. The graphic card in the 360 is more powerful than any card on the market.

[Enki]

No, not always.

Find the PC game from 1996 that comes remotely close to Virtua Fighter 3 (also from 1996). Find the 97' PC game that looks as good as Scud Race (Super GT).

Back in the day Arcade hardware >>>> PC >>>> Home Console

But times have changed. Now it's more like PC>Home Console > or = to Arcade...

Maybe Sega's next arcade system (Lindbergh) will change things...

Good point, that was before the PC industry got into 3d cards. But the engine dev was pretty good for doing that much with so little. A lot of advancement in engines came from those constraints. Now there's no reason to go to arcades except for gimmicky games.

I am a graphics whore, I'll admit it. Games have to be immersive nowadays, can't just rely on good gameplay. Only hardcore people will play 1990s looking games, that's why 2d is dead. That's also why system specs do matter and get compared.

[Mystic_bash]

What are you talking about. The graphic card in the 360 is more powerful than any card on the market.
I said it seems, I didnt state it was gonna be right. But I didnt know that, Thank you :)
What kinda card is it btw?

[Hunter D]

360 is using an ati card. Revolution will also use an ati card.

[AL the great]

What are you talking about. The graphic card in the 360 is more powerful than any card on the market.

not true, the Radeon X1800XT 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 specs are higher.

[AzN_Skater]

Xbox 360 = the new dreamcast, but with money behind them.

PS. I'm a nintendo fanboy.

[snakedizzle209]

Nvidia 7800 GTX ftw.

[AL the great]

Nvidia 7800 GTX ftw.

the core clock speed of the 7800 gtx is actually lower than the xbox2, but very very close. because the ati card is a "custom card" i wouldn't doubt that the 7800 gtx can bench higher.

[Chachi]

Because it feels good to drop $400 on a gaudy electronic component you don't really need.

I bought one, and for some reason don't feel the urge to justify doing so. Sometimes desire overcomes logic.

[Darkside3024]

I played the 360 and it's above 1.5. For some reason it looks a lot better than what you see on TV. I was playing PDZ.

[maxx]

You dont like. you dont buy.

listen to the korean storeclerk with the most broken stuffed animal in history as his avatar.

[TheProfessional]

I can see why they call it 1.5 but wait until they can tweak out the system in the later stages of Xb360's life. Even 1 year down the road they will come up with some awesome shit. I have a few 'favorite' developers that I know are already under Microsoft that I can't wait for to release some great games. Also couple with the fact that Microsoft will undoubtely own the online market (unless Sony does something drastic about their online plans) so I'm 100% sure that online games are going to be fun on 360.

Theres also a few other things that i'm excited for in the 360. I've always liked the media center bit on the original XB, but sadly it wasnt an official program, but now, it is and I can hook up my Ipod to it and copy music, video or whatever and play it on my 360. Since it has a video standard of 720P, I can watch those videos in HD w/o ever having to have a computer and buy some ridiculous expensive videocard to do it.

[blood_sin]

It's because most of the games are just rehashes and ports with slightly improved graphics. It's like when you upgrade the graphics card in your computer, so there's really nothing exciting about it.

[Sahao]

The point of xbox 2 is....... more money for BIll Gate :encore:

[Return of Shiki]

I am a graphics whore, I'll admit it. Games have to be immersive nowadays, can't just rely on good gameplay. Only hardcore people will play 1990s looking games, that's why 2d is dead. That's also why system specs do matter and get compared.

You don't need a 20-million dollar graphics budget in order to create an "immersive" game.

[TheSix]

Good thing I never planned on buying a 360(*looks at PS3 pre-order). But being the nice brother that I am, I stood in line to get my lil bro a 360 for X-mas. I get like the 12th one, come home and give it to him. Worked for 5 mins....screen turns black, red light flashes on console. Customer Support? Funny. What a waste of my time. I missed the end of Raw for some shit that doesn't even work.

[AL the great]

Good thing I never planned on buying a 360(*looks at PS3 pre-order). But being the nice brother that I am, I stood in line to get my lil bro a 360 for X-mas. I get like the 12th one, come home and give it to him. Worked for 5 mins....screen turns black, red light flashes on console. Customer Support? Funny. What a waste of my time. I missed the end of Raw for some shit that doesn't even work.

hahaahaaah lol too good

[JAMMAR]

aHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA XBOX SUCKS ANYWAYS

[Chachi]

systemwars.com ftw.

[Luckychrono777]

the same thing happened to my system, you have to like turn on some switch that on the back of one of the wires to get it working...

I didn't do it myself so I'm not much help....

[Nishiko]

A defective right out of the box. Why does this not surprise me in the least?

[Airthrow]

I heard from a friend who has good reason to know:

Don't turn the 360 on it's side, or it will scratch up the discs to unreadability if there are any vibrations at all (like if the table moves at all).

[Major]

Alot of the games are ports. Gun for christ sakes looks terrible. But I still think the 360 is good system. Another problem is that game code is not written to take advantage of all 3 cores effectively. Some bullshit about devolpers having learn to write multithreaded code. Don't give me your fucking excuses, write the damn code or get your obsolete ass out of the game.

[Sahao]

It's because most of the games are just rehashes and ports with slightly improved graphics. It's like when you upgrade the graphics card in your computer, so there's really nothing exciting about it.

you are the winnar!
this is the truth ppl

[Sahao]

You don't need a 20-million dollar graphics budget in order to create an "immersive" game.

cosign
just take Tetris or games like Zelda, FF3, Megaman, Metroid...ext
those are classic but still better than some of the so call games of today

[AL the great]

cosign
just take Tetris or games like Zelda, FF3, Megaman, Metroid...ext
those are classic but still better than some of the so call games of today

oh man those games right there are better than 80% of games today. i swear my friends and i ONLY use our xboxs' for playing old school games.

for right now xbox>xbox2

[Mycah Leonhart]

If you have one AND Perfect Dark Zero, fuck you - fuck you sideways with a long rusty flat head screwdriver.

But seriously, how is it - I couldn't get one sadly I'll have to wait for another shipment, guess I gotta wait till my homeboy brings it by in a couple of days, I'll have one before Christmas damn it! :sad:

Also how is PDZ?!, I saw it on X Play and, I almost cried cause it looked kinda BAD but then again the 1P storyline in PD1 was kinda......................bad, is the gameplay on point at least?! - how is it online?!

[Luckychrono777]

I got an Xbox360 with PDZ but I haven't spent much time with it (I only played one game of multiplayer) so I'm sure someone else could make better impressions than I could right now...

[Lumbro1]

xbox>xbox2
modded xbox is definately better than xbox360 for now.
I think its going to be really hard for anything to top the modded xbox for a long time to come.
We'll have to wait and see what people can do with the 360.

[LimeGreenPatato]

What's ps3 doing other than updating their graphics?

[Enki]

You don't need a 20-million dollar graphics budget in order to create an "immersive" game.

I also don't have lots of time. I only play for 30 minutes at a time per day, and if it doesn't impress me within 5 minutes I turn it off. I can't stand RPGs anymore that takes hours to do anything.

Yeah, I used to be a hardcore gamer but those days are gone. And I think the majority of people with things to do in the real world are in the same boat. That's why I like FPSs and racing games, it's easy to pop in for a 20 min break and then jump off. I don't want to sit through a cutscene that takes up that time, or have to read a story when I can be reading a book instead.

First impressions matter a lot, if the game looks like ass, I won't play it period.

[timekillr]

I got one, with PGR3. I really don't like FPSes, so..

[AzN_Skater]

lol serious? That's wack for sure.

[Eminent]

not true, the Radeon X1800XT 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 specs are higher.

^ except for the stacked memory, that statement is false.

Source:Tomshardware.com

"The first thing to note is that the graphics chip in the Xbox 360 bears no resemblance to what currently exists in the PC world, even if the architecture is superficially similar in some ways to the new 3D chip for PCs, the Radeon X1800 XT. Even so, ATI admits that the chipset in the Xbox 360 has several times the processing power of the latest generation of PC chips! That makes sense when you realize that a game console is dedicated mostly to video games, and as such 3D optimization is a priority.

ATI has devoted a lot of its time to developing a graphics chipset worthy of the name. Their Radeon X1000 family is based on the DirectX specifications, particularly version 9.0c (Shader Model 3.0). The Xenos (the codename for the Xbox 360's chipset) is based largely on the same specifications, but goes far beyond them. In fact, the specifications for the Xenos exceed those called for in Microsoft's Windows Graphics Foundation 2.0, aka DirectX 10."
http://www.twitchguru.com/2005/11/18/xbox_360/page3.html

[Infested Jester]

I work at Wal Mart and when I left Monday morning the line to start waiting had already begun inside around 7:30 AM. When I returned to work last night they were still there. Wal Mart set up chairs for them with numbers under each chair to keep place in line. You were only allowed to go to the bathroom as a break, anything else and your spot was fair game to the next available person. They had 32 systems, and only 4 of those were the HD bundle, so most of these guys waited 17+ hours in a chair at Wal Mart for the shittier bundle with no HD. Why these people chose to do this instead of just putting $50.00 down at Gamestop a month ago is a mystery to me. Then around 12:30 they were gone and we had about 50 people waiting outside asking how we could have sold out that quick. :rolleyes: I have to say it was quite sad to see these guys, I do say guys as there was not one female present, nodding out and in obvious discomfort over a fucking video game system. :lame: I know there have been worse lines and waits for other things, but actually seeing it right in front of you was just...damn. I do feel better knowing that my 3 hour wait for a N64 years back is nothing compared to what goes on now.

[ShotoKlownIori]

Microsoft appears to have done an amazing job hyping up its machine, but didn't do so well flaunting the greatness and leetness of the specs.

XBox 1.5? i dont think so. I'm dying to play PDZ when my buddy gets his.

Dreamcast 2.0?Sadly, it could be. Same marketing guy IIRC...:rolleyes:

[Eminent]

Worked for 5 mins....screen turns black, red light flashes on console. Customer Support?
With Microsoft there will always be a BSOD, this one just happens to be the 360 edition

[snakedizzle209]

I heard Quake 4 doesnt look as sharp on 360. AND the games framerates took a major hit compared to the PC. If this is true then thats just sad that a PC version of a current gen game is that superior to it's "next-gen" port.

And quake 4 on PC supports 16 players. I heard 360 version only supports 8.:shake:

[Koop]

Have fun...personally im waiting on PS3



holla and keep it clean...

[ShotoKlownIori]

No shit, a launch day system with problems? You are lying aren't you?!
That shit doesn't happen anymore!:rolleyes:

[Septimus Prime]

Have fun...personally im waiting on PS3
Co-sign. I'm also waiting on the Rev.

[AL the great]

^ except for the stacked memory, that statement is false.

Source:Tomshardware.com

http://www.twitchguru.com/2005/11/18/xbox_360/page3.html

i'm not surprised it's gonna run a little better or worse cuz like it says it's dedicated so that right there is a plus for anything.

but after reading that they're not even sure how to bench it.
and like snake said, lots of shit flying around it wont run Q4 as good as pc

all in all, the card in the xbox2 is still really buff that's without a doubt.

i will also be waiting for the ps3 and revolution.

[TheDarkPhoenix]

Every cd gaming system in history has had problems with launch system's. Even tho dreamcast prob had the best launch as far as performance. But if you buy a system on launch you should be ready to purchase a warrenty along with it.


The price you pay along with the system for being 1st on the block or in the hood with the newest system.

[Enki]

And quake 4 on PC supports 16 players. I heard 360 version only supports 8.:shake:

That's actually a good thing, 16 player quake is dumb. Keep it to 1v1 or at most 4v4 TDM.

[PimpC]

quick question for all the people that call this the xbox 1.5.....aren't all the launch titles are single threaded? Which means the launch titles aren't near the possibilities what the future titles will be??

[caliagent#3]

360!!!

All i know is that while waiting for my 360 i played CoD on the kiosk at best buy, and it looks wayyy better than the pc version

[rsigley]

it's to play video games on you fucking idiot

[Enki]

Check out ebay btw, it's fucking insane. People are paying upwards of $1500+.

[KneelB4Me]

Lol somebody just payed $4000+ for one on there :rofl:

[Super Warrior]

I also don't have lots of time. I only play for 30 minutes at a time per day, and if it doesn't impress me within 5 minutes I turn it off. I can't stand RPGs anymore that takes hours to do anything.

Yeah, I used to be a hardcore gamer but those days are gone. And I think the majority of people with things to do in the real world are in the same boat. That's why I like FPSs and racing games, it's easy to pop in for a 20 min break and then jump off. I don't want to sit through a cutscene that takes up that time, or have to read a story when I can be reading a book instead.

First impressions matter a lot, if the game looks like ass, I won't play it period.

Glad you admit your a graphics whore, cause you certainly are. And a pretty shallow one at that.

Good Graphics are always nice but it takes way more than that to make a GAME.However,you don't seem to care much if the rest of the actual game sucks donkey nutz, just as long as it look pretty on the outside.

I'd hate to see what you think of great,classic titles like SNK's Metal Slug. Would you be able to get over your graphic-whoreness to appreciate it for being a great,FUN 2D shooter? Or would you just condemme it outright because of its 2D graphics, cause 2D is "so 1990s"?

[DarkZero]

Lol somebody just payed $4000+ for one on there :rofl:

Thats fuckin stupid! WTH are these people thinking.?

[OmNiExiZt]

"The first thing to note is that the graphics chip in the Xbox 360 bears no resemblance to what currently exists in the PC world, even if the architecture is superficially similar in some ways to the new 3D chip for PCs, the Radeon X1800 XT. Even so, ATI admits that the chipset in the Xbox 360 has several times the processing power of the latest generation of PC chips! That makes sense when you realize that a game console is dedicated mostly to video games, and as such 3D optimization is a priority.

ATI has devoted a lot of its time to developing a graphics chipset worthy of the name. Their Radeon X1000 family is based on the DirectX specifications, particularly version 9.0c (Shader Model 3.0). The Xenos (the codename for the Xbox 360's chipset) is based largely on the same specifications, but goes far beyond them. In fact, the specifications for the Xenos exceed those called for in Microsoft's Windows Graphics Foundation 2.0, aka DirectX 10


So the video card in the 360 is supposed to have several times the processing power of current video cards in the industry right now huh? Doesn't several mean 2-3 times? If that's the statement they made, then that isn't saying much as seeing how new videocards come out about every 3-6 months. They should stop using the "It's as powerful as a PC" niche to sell units since that'll never be the case. But here is the big thing, all the graphics in the world won't help a game if the gameplay sucks. Look at Tao Feng for the Xbox. That game is graphically stunning. But the gameplay is so terrible, you can't love it base on grahpical superiority alone. It's like, if they came out with a killer 2D fighting game with graphics that much better than Streetfighter 3. Then they come out with a 3D fighter that looks as real as life it self. If the gameplay for the 3D games sucks, no one will care how good it looks.

*ONEZ*

[ibow2no1]

yeah i though i'd be all clever and buy one from the circuit city website early. At 7: 29 the website said "web only bundle!!! check back tuesday" i f5 that shit down and at 7:30 they were sold out.
Kmart was sold out before the store even openned.

the small village that had formed in front of the circuit city was upset when they heard they only had 20 or so systmes

toyrus had a massive 8 systems despite their circular stating they were having a huge xbox extravanganza

and poor old sears had 4 system. that sears it tries so hard.

So yeah if you didn't pre order don't try to buy this thing it will be a headache, even if your willing to go crazy it won't be crazy enough.

[Storming Flower]

Glad you admit your a graphics whore, cause you certainly are. And a pretty shallow one at that.

Good Graphics are always nice but it takes way more than that to make a GAME.However,you don't seem to care much if the rest of the actual game sucks donkey nutz, just as long as it look pretty on the outside.

I'd hate to see what you think of great,classic titles like SNK's Metal Slug. Would you be able to get over your graphic-whoreness to appreciate it for being a great,FUN 2D shooter? Or would you just condemme it outright because of its 2D graphics, cause 2D is "so 1990s"?

go back to gamefaqs scrub.

the guy genuinely admitted that he used to be hardcore, and had time for games like rpgs, but now he's too busy.

even though i bash the 360, i can understand and it makes a lot of sense if you don't have time and just want a quick game to play like fps or a racing game.

i'm more or less on the same boat as him, if a game doesn't impress me in some way whether it be graphics or sound in the first 5 mins, i turn it off. Couldn't stand chrono cross.

[PimpC]

wtf....i got negged for my question....wtf, where is my premium.....whatever can uhh someone verify that for me though...i heard that it was a rumor that they all launch games were singled threaded, someone has to know if there is some truth to that.....and whoever negged me, you could've signed it at least, man up.

[KneelB4Me]

Lol, is anybody else tempted to sell an xbox360 on ebay then? Or is it just me? I dont have one, but I'll happily sell one on there and pack it out to them a few months later. Im an arsehole like that. If you see mekesN82 selling an XB360, please dont bid haha.