The SRK Movie Fanatic Thread (REVIEWS, QUESTIONS, RANTS, STARS...ETC.) EVERYTHING!!!

[Roxie]

Imitation of Life.

[Taito]

american movies made before 1960
Somebody Up There Likes Me
The Bad Seed
Dial M for Murder

.. And some other movies I liked but don't know the name of

[angryliberal]

i watched ikiru today. i have not been moved by a movie ike i was by that in a long time. simply beautiful. seven smurai is next on my netflix list. me and my fiance get 5 movies at a time from netflix, usually 2 for her, 2 for me and one we both want to see. i can see one of my two slots being take up by kurasowa for the next month or two. amazing film, and i look forward to seeing his other masterpieces.

[angryliberal]

doing some research into criterion collection films - some fo the oop ones are fucking expensive! spinal tap, the killer, sid and nancy...

[P. Gorath]

told you...

[angryliberal]

honestly, i am starting to respect your opinion much more pg. i think my ego got in the way of me enjoying some amazing pieces of artwork. going through the criterion collection list, i see sooo many films i have never even heard of that i want to see...

fry's has a criterion section, everytime some employee asks me if i want a fry's card, it becomes harder and harder to say no...

i know you like th gorefest movies, how are 'flesh for frankestien' and 'blood for dracula'?

[angryliberal]

i am in awe. i have just witnessed seven samurai for the first time. my only regret is that i sealed the netflix envelope before watching the audio commentary...i am speechless at how amazing this film is. 3 1/2 hours never flew by so quickly. a true piece of cinematic artwork, a masterpiece of film.

[P. Gorath]

you should always listen to the commentaries after you watch the kurosawa movies, it will double your enjoyment of the film

[angryliberal]

i will be picking up the criterion 4 disk kurosawa collection VERY soon, so i can listen to it then...

[Taichi]

What exactly does "Criterion Collection" Mean?

[P. Gorath]

i will be picking up the criterion 4 disk kurosawa collection VERY soon, so i can listen to it then...
i might hold off on that one actually. Hidden Fortress, Yojimbo and Sanjuro are all old school criterion dvds that are just ports of the laserdisc, are not anamorphic, and dont have any commentary tracks (the only 3 kurosawa dvds besides bad sleep well to not have commentaries.) I heard a rumor that they would be re-releasing these 3 dvds in better versions at a later time. I would still watch them from netflix though. Ikiru, Red Beard, Lower Depths are all good to go and Rashomon and Stray Dog have commentaries that add probably the most to their respective movies (red beard too, although that is a classic even without knowing all the background)

taichi - criterion is just a dvd distributor that focuses on foreign films, auteur directors and other classics. They put a number on the spine of each of their releases which spurs a collector mentality among dvd buyers. Most of their stuff is known for their superior image transfers and bountiful extras. Their dvd liscenses also go out of print which raises prices considerably for several dvds (Playtime, Salo, Spinal Tap, etc).

[angryliberal]

i might hold off on that one actually. Hidden Fortress, Yojimbo and Sanjuro are all old school criterion dvds that are just ports of the laserdisc, are not anamorphic, and dont have any commentary tracks (the only 3 kurosawa dvds besides bad sleep well to not have commentaries.) I heard a rumor that they would be re-releasing these 3 dvds in better versions at a later time. I would still watch them from netflix though. Ikiru, Red Beard, Lower Depths are all good to go and Rashomon and Stray Dog have commentaries that add probably the most to their respective movies (red beard too, although that is a classic even without knowing all the background)

taichi - criterion is just a dvd distributor that focuses on foreign films, auteur directors and other classics. They put a number on the spine of each of their releases which spurs a collector mentality among dvd buyers. Most of their stuff is known for their superior image transfers and bountiful extras. Their dvd liscenses also go out of print which raises prices considerably for several dvds (Playtime, Salo, Spinal Tap, etc).

hmmm...i'm thinking i may just pick up the seven samurai dvd this weekend then. i really want a copy of it, and i have just enough extra spending money this weekend to pick up one criterion dvd...BUT i may pick up notorious off amazon instead before the price goes too high on it.

have you seen 'i am curious'? i'm wondering how good that is...

[monbaby]

Two great movies i've seen recently...

Inside Job and World's Fastest Indian...

[Dan?]

Just watched Prince of Space last night, one of my all-time favorite MST3K's, as well as a film I would easily rank in my top five films EVAR, Sleuth from 1972 starring Lawrence Olivier and Michael Caine. I absolutely adore that film, and it was refreshing to see it again.

Tonight we watch Werewolves on Wheels which I am sure will be an instant classic in our minds.

[angryliberal]

my fave mst3k eps in order would be:

1.) manos
2.) mitchell
3.) deathstalker 3
4.) angel's revenge
5.) zombie nightmare

[Dan?]

my fave mst3k eps in order would be:

1.) manos
2.) mitchell
3.) deathstalker 3
4.) angel's revenge
5.) zombie nightmare

Manos actually physically pains me to watch. It feels like an eternity watching that 90-minute heap.

But I must admit, Torgo is a gangsta.

[HeaT]

i justed watched Oldboy couple of weeks ago and since then seen it like 5 times...

this movie is the ownage...suprisingly good for a korean film, now i want to see sympathy for mr. vengence, the directors other movie...

im outi

Roberth

[SNAAAAKE]

is it just me or "stay alive" is one of THE worse movie ever ?? so retarded I wasnt sure if it was supposed to be funny or scary...:mad:

[Taichi]

Thanks Gorath.....I'm quite the fanatic, and have seen 'criterion collection' dvds, just didn't know what the deal is.....

pretty interesting about the whole collector mentality tho, I'm just stoked to have my fave films in my collection, I don't care about an outside opinion, especially that of the distributor.....

granted, I like the best I can get, but I'll settle for whatever I can get when I just want the movie in my collection.....

[Demon Dash]

Squirters 2 is excelent, Seymoure Butts at his finest.

[ChairHome]

Anyone ever watch "Remo Williams: The Adventure begins"? I loved this movie when I was younger, still do. Apparently, it was based on a book called "The Destroyer" that was a little more intense than the movie. They're making a movie based on The Destroyer now...
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=22938

I'm excited to see how this pans out.

[angryliberal]

thats funny, i just saw remo williams on tv the other day...

[SunocO]

Saw Recently:
Luck Number Slevin = not bad. good (not great) movie
Nobody Knows = sad ass movie i liked it a lot
Munich = good was really long though
16 Blocks = eh
Inside Man = eh
Revolver = i'm still confused lol
History of Violence = wish there was more to it

What I want to see:
High Score

Also does anyone know this move called Yamikaze or something? I can't remember the exact title but it was french movie with guys who like climb and jump (think the old nike commercial where that dude goes up the stairs with like a couple of jumps running from the duck?)

Please help me out with the title of this movie. I saw and like 3 years ago and i want to see it again.

[Higher-Jin]

I'm going to watch rounders again, it's a pretty cool movie.

[angryliberal]

i just wanted to say, if you have never seen dog day afternoon, go rent it asap. this is hands down al pacinos finest performance. better even than the godfather movies. i respect his acting greatly in those, but they don't compare to the realism of his character in dog day. that movie just fucking rocks.

[Geese Pants]

Your Movie Database (www.ymdb.com)
You can discuss and post your favorite movies.............and I think put your own review on other people's favorite movies.

I stumbled upon this site............anyone in this site?

[P. Gorath]

this weekend watched memoirs of a geisha and bourne identity (im a bit late, i know).

i thought geisha was pretty meh...them speaking english bugged me

[angryliberal]

Your Movie Database (www.ymdb.com)
You can discuss and post your favorite movies.............and I think put your own review on other people's favorite movies.

I stumbled upon this site............anyone in this site?
just signed up, checking it out now...

edit: http://www.ymdb.com/muffin/l34949_ukuk.html

[P. Gorath]

i also watched "just friends" which actually wasnt too bad. somehow i think ive developed a soft spot for ryan reynolds...

[Roxie]

i thought geisha was pretty meh...them speaking english bugged me
Why? :confused: The book was written in English by a guy from Tennessee.

[angryliberal]

i also watched "just friends" which actually wasnt too bad. somehow i think ive developed a soft spot for ryan reynolds...
lemme ask you something, was this of your own choice or your gf's? i find that i watch tons of movies i'd never even consider cuz of my gf...

[P. Gorath]

yes i have to watch all sorts of crappy (the wedding date, bridget jones), boring (pride and prejudice), and occasionally good (love actually) romantic comedies these days.

but i took her to a cannibal holocaust screening so its all good

[angryliberal]

yes i have to watch all sorts of crappy (the wedding date, bridget jones), boring (pride and prejudice), and occasionally good (love actually) romantic comedies these days.

but i took her to a cannibal holocaust screening so its all good
i saw holocaust recently. i didn't get it. i mean, it just didn't do anything for me. i skipped pride and prejudice. she knows there certain movies i'm just not gonna enjoy, she watches those either on friday mornings when i'm at work or sunday afternoons when i'm playing poker or something.

[MAGUS1234]

seen Lonsome Jim and Cache recently, and Tsoti.
Tsotsi-really cool, kinda like city of god(thats what reviewrers are saying)
Cache-cant decide how I feel, the movie was strange, you have to know about Frances history to fully understand it.
Lonsome jim- liked it alot
love song for bobby long- For some reason I really liked this movie?
P & P- Im in love with Kiera so I liked it.
Domino- better than I expected, tanintino esque


then I watchd some movie about a guy who travels to France during the 60's? and ends up living with this incestual brother and sister pair and the movie gets really akward and uncofortable, I forget the title though. It sucked.

thats about all Ive seen lately. Oh and Wjhere the Truth lies, that movie is awsome.

[P. Gorath]

then I watchd some movie about a guy who travels to France during the 60's? and ends up living with this incestual brother and sister pair and the movie gets really akward and uncofortable, I forget the title though. It sucked.


the dreamers?

liberal - define didnt do anything for me

[MAGUS1234]

ya Dreamers, not a fan. Eaten Alive is another good Cannibal movie. Typical spagetti gore

[angryliberal]

the dreamers?

liberal - define didnt do anything for me
didn't really disturb me or entertain me. at least last house affected a part of me i didn't really want affected. last house made me genuinely uncomfortable like i shouldn't be watching it. cannibal holocaust just felt cheesey...

[P. Gorath]

details...i dont think we're talking about the same movie here

[angryliberal]

the one with the famous 'turtle scene' right?

edit: i think it was more the themes of last house that disturbed me more...the whole innocent teen girl getting carved into...i dunno...

edit2: lemme put it bluntly, last house almost made me vomit, holocaust didn't...

[MAGUS1234]

Last house was corny, couldn't get into it. I like the SFX, a movie malevolence used similar style.....was kinda cool.

[angryliberal]

ok, some new directors i've been told to check out - bresson, cassavettes, and trakovsky. i've got sooo many foriegn films on my neflix list now, and my gf can't get into foriegns really, so i get about one day a week to watch em...its gonna take me soooo long to get through all these...

edit:

directors i'm checking out:

igmar bergman
akira kurosawa
loius malle
andrei tarkovsky
robert bresson
john cassavetes
david cronenberg
federico fellini
fritz lang
jean-pierre melville
yasujiro ozu
jean renoir
volker schlondorf(i LOVED the tin drum)
vilgot sjolman
seijun suzuki
jacques tati
francios truffaut
jim jarmusch
terrence mallick

[angryliberal]

ok, i have a question for pg(along with any other violent/exploitative movie freaks) - have any of you seen chaos? its essentially a rip off of virgin spring/last house, but its supposed to be over the top violence and torture. i was wondering how it compared to films like cannibal holocaust or last house...

[P. Gorath]

never heard of it. what year did it come out

watched wolf creek last night. what a fucking stupid movie. I was able to watch it on fast forward and not miss out on a thing

[Dan?]

Much for the same reasons ("Come on honey! It looks really funny!") I've seen Just Friends.

Okay, it's a farce, he's just 2 hawtz.

But it was actually very enjoyable. The physical comedy was spot on for enticing laughter and getting a sense of pain. Most contemporary physical comedy is far too slow and not a surprise in the least, so it was a breath of fresh air to see some gags that actually made you cringe a little. My particular favorite was the snow ramp after the ice hockey game.

Hopefully I will be seeing Escape From New York and The Warriors soon with a friend.

[Darkstalker]

Also does anyone know this move called Yamikaze or something? I can't remember the exact title but it was french movie with guys who like climb and jump (think the old nike commercial where that dude goes up the stairs with like a couple of jumps running from the duck?)

Please help me out with the title of this movie. I saw and like 3 years ago and i want to see it again.

Yamakasi.

It was a piece of shit from what I remember of it. Horrible. The easiest way to have made it good shit was make it a piece of trash that glorified each and every stunt but it was some sort of moral story in the end.

Okay, it might've been good, I dunno. But I hated it.

EDIT: Props to them for being fucking good at what they do though. Too bad it made a horrible movie.

[angryliberal]

never heard of it. what year did it come out

watched wolf creek last night. what a fucking stupid movie. I was able to watch it on fast forward and not miss out on a thing
2005 - here's the imdb page: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405977/

[voodazz]

Life as a House= Whitest movie EVER.

[Dan?]

Birth of a Nation= Whitest movie EVER.

Fixed.

[Draeger]

It is also probably the most innovative movie of all time in terms of cinematography.

I just find it funny how D.W. Griffith made roughly 400 films and only two of them were big; "Birth of a Nation" and "Intolerance".

angryliberal
Nice list of directors you got on there; have you ever heard of Henri-Georges Clouzot? He was Hitchcock's rival back in his heyday.

[angryliberal]

never heard of him, i'll check him out. any paticular movie suggestion to start with?

[donaldducktm]

Lucky Number Slevin is a damn good movie

[Draeger]

Diabolique and Wages of Fear were probably his two greatest movies.

[angryliberal]

i think i have diabolique on my netflix list. if not, it will be in five minutes...

[2D is Forever]

I saw Cannibal Holocaust a while back, my friends in college desperately tired to find that movie when they found out it was banned in America plus numerous other countries.....They heard it was bloody as hell and weird, which it was.....

Other then that, I really couldn't take the movie seriously maybe because of the atmosphere, even started to fall asleep during part of it that weren't screwed up, but what do most people take the movie for??

[angryliberal]

watched 'the virgin spring' a few days ago. amazing film. i'm going to watch it with the commentary track this weekend.

[Infested Jester]

I saw Cannibal Holocaust a while back, my friends in college desperately tired to find that movie when they found out it was banned in America plus numerous other countries.....They heard it was bloody as hell and weird, which it was.....

Other then that, I really couldn't take the movie seriously maybe because of the atmosphere, even started to fall asleep during part of it that weren't screwed up, but what do most people take the movie for??

Thats a weak ass cannibal movie, go with "Make Them Die Slowly" aka Cannibal Ferox.......girl gets hooked through the titties and hung, guys gets his schween hacked off then they eat it......I won't ruin anymore.

Just picked up on DVD some 80s classic comedies:

Just One of the Guys
Amazon Women on the Moon
Hangin with the Homeboys.......very underrated comedy IMO

[Kid Wonder]

Just watched Just Friends. Somebody on here recommended it, despite the chick flick vibe. Know what, it was actually really entertaining. Like, take your/a girl to go see the movie, you wont be disappointed. It was funny, but more like a "I'll watch it on cable" funny. Made my lousy, lack of sleep morning.

Skimmed through Sahara. yup. garbage. I was right all along, but I'm trying my best to give things a shot. awful, awful movie.

The Warriors: YES!! Loved the way this one was done. greatness.

Requim for a Dream: really good. Done very nicely. But the ending was just out there, seeing as how drug users don't get arrested for just being drug users. ESPECIALLY IN A HOSPITAL!! wtf?? A doctor just broke doctor confidentiality. that's the real crime. The mom going legally insane from those diet pills? like uh...?? not very common.

[Geese Pants]

What movies should I recommend to a friend who just became a fan of Christopher Walken?

I mentioned:

Kings of New York
Batman 2
The Prophecy

But damn............there are so many I forgot.

[MAGUS1234]

watcheed

Kidalthood = teens in london, "kids" style movie, drugs sex,vilence.....blah blah blah.
The Island = I was watching Scaletts tits the whole movie.
Fanaa = ughh

[kcxj]

I screen all my movies before I watch them with anybody else, so I just watched "Hostel" all the way through for the first time...








Talk about a movie you should absolutely NOT watch with a girl or your mom... How can anybody tolerate the amount of violence towards women this movie shows? It's the most horrifying thing I've ever seen and I actually felt physically ill. I honestly considered turning off the TV during the sadistic torture scene with the first Asian girl. Good thing the camera cuts away to a metaphor of the violent act happening instead of showing the actual gore.

Anyway, I bought the DVD, but I have no intention on watching it again.

The women are stunningly beautiful during the first half of the movie, and the part where the camera pans down to the front desk girl's ass was the best idea ever, but ... ughh... how are you going to film so much violence, abuse, and the disturbing screams of pain from Asian women like that?

Ikana is handcuffed to a chair and gets a blow torch to the face by a sexually sadistic White man if anybody is wondering what scene I'm talking about that ruined the movie for me. Her screams are disturbingly realistic and I don't want to listen to them anymore.

I do admit that the DVD is pretty cool and has a really awesome "making of" featurette, but the movie itself was too much for me to handle. It's a shame because the first torture scene with the electric drill and scapel guy was absolutely genius. I haven't felt so uncomfortable from watching a horror scene in a long time, but in a good way.

But yeah, what the fuck... watching torture happen to the women made me want to turn my TV off and throw this DVD away.

Not recommended. :tdown: :tdown:

ABSOLUTELY not recommended to be watched with one of your female friends. Even the girls that like scary horror movies (like Saw or Texas Chainsaw Massacre) will be turned off so bad, it's counter productive to you inviting them over your house to watch a movie in the first place. If God forbid that they get the impression that you actually LIKE movies like this, good job... you're a psychotic weirdo and you're never going to hear from her again.

[angryliberal]

it was campy and completely lacking in a good story, it didn't bother me one bit...you wanna see disturbing violence toward women, watch last house on the left or irreversible. i'll never watch last house again, but i will admit that irreversible is intriguing enough to give another viewing, at least from an artistic point of view.

[Infested Jester]

it was campy and completely lacking in a good story, it didn't bother me one bit...you wanna see disturbing violence toward women, watch last house on the left or irreversible. i'll never watch last house again, but i will admit that irreversible is intriguing enough to give another viewing, at least from an artistic point of view.


QFT

Last House on the Left is uncomfortable to watch......I Spit on Your Grave is pretty disturbing as well.....especially the "bath tub scene" :sweat: :wasted:

[angryliberal]

spit lost any sense of horror when you realise how stupid those guys were, especially the one who gets hgeld at gunpoint by the woman he raped, then goes home to take a bath with her...

[versus addict]

Just picked up IZO. WTF? I had high hopes for it....but had to turn it off after 20 minutes or so. Reminds me of some artsy film school BS. Zebraman was better.....should I give IZO another chance?

[Kid Wonder]

Traffic
Freddy Got Fingered
Four Brothers

[The Damned]

I've watched three movies as of late. None of them were horror movies though, and I haven't watched any of these "really disturbing" movies. Ergo, I can't comment on the current discussion.

As for the movies I watched, they were Saved! (2004), After Life (1998 film from Japan), and.... I guess that I only watched two since I haven't finished watching Last Life in the Universe yet. Weird. It still feels as if I'm missing something else, but maybe because I've been thinking about all the data a lost in the Foreign Film thread's destruction. ...That and generally beuing more down than usual...stupid addictive Tori Amos cover of Depeche Mode.

...Anyway, After Life was rather weird. It was far less depressing than I thought it was going to be, though I still made it depressing like I thought it would. ...I'm totally like Mr. Yamamoto...the shame, the infinite shame. Aside from that, the whole tangibility aspect it was annoying me.... I just don't understand where the Hell, no possible pun intended, this facility was, especially if they could apparently venture back to the world of living so easily to "scout" locations.

Still, the concept was interesting, and I wasn't as disappointed in its execution as with Denied.

As for Saved!, I quite like it. Odd to see Mandy Moore play the "bitchy bad guy", but she acted well. The ending seemed a bit rushed, at least in terms of reconcilation. Then again, I'm still not sure where I stand when it comes to "happy endings", though Saved!'s ending wasn't as really as "happy" as it was conclusive. Or, I suppose I should say, that the ending was something more realistic than a "happy" without resorting to the grim realism that I'm accustomed---unless, of course, you think she shouldn't have the baby.

...Yeah, I have no idea where I was going with this...and I still feel like I'm missing something.

Dammit.

The Producers EDIT: I finally remembered what I had forgotten: I watched The Producers remake. I (surprisingly) liked it for most part--the word "surprisingly" is in parantheses because the more I think about it, the more I'm unsure how I feel about remakes recently, at least with all the decent ones coming out. Hell, I know that I've said that American remake of The Ring is superior to the Japanese version of Ringu, and I know of at least one remake that's better than the original (that I might have mentioned on here, though it would have been quite a while ago, at least two years).

Anyway, it's difficult to compare this newer version to the older version since the newer one is more a "remake" of the (new?) play that came out around the same time, which is why it had all those musical numbers in there. Meanwhile, the older version was more "bare bones" (obviously); I'm not aware how much of a negative connotation "bare bones" holds with you though.

I quite liked the older, Gene Wilder version--the amount of songs made me realize that maybe it was the lack of songs that made the "Springtime for Hitler" song in the older version all the funnier. Well, that and the fact that the audience was repulsed all the way through that song in the original. (I do have to commend the productions values for that song in the newer version though, especially with the lead Stormtrooper looking so sharply blue-eyed and blonde. I quite enjoyed all the other songs, so that made up for it.)

Other than that, I felt that it at times, at least when it came to the "Leo Bloom is fucking crazy" aspect of Leo Bloom, Matthew Broderick seemed like he was trying too hard to be Gene Wilder. Either that or Gene Wilder did that part better (or I remember Gene doing it first even). Still, I liked Broderick was able to make him look even wimper, but maybe that's because Broderick looks so damned innocuous and cute for his own damned good--I finally realized that my college roommate looks a lot like him...it's sort of creepy, actually.

[Infested Jester]

Need help finding a movie title, a friend of mine asked me and I have no clue what movies shes talking about. Ok, takes place in the 1800's. Circus owners steal a mermaid/siren from this castle for their show. When theres a full moon it turns into a monster and kills people by bringing them to this island. Only other info I have is that this creature spares a pregnant girl. Any help on this would be appreciated.

[Geese Pants]

Need help finding a movie title, a friend of mine asked me and I have no clue what movies shes talking about. Ok, takes place in the 1800's. Circus owners steal a mermaid/siren from this castle for their show. When theres a full moon it turns into a monster and kills people by bringing them to this island. Only other info I have is that this creature spares a pregnant girl. Any help on this would be appreciated.

OMG I know this movie................I think it's "She Creature"
It was part of a horror movie series on Showtime.

Edit: Yep...........it's She Creature (http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005YUNQ/701-4499041-4885904)

[Kool-Aid Ryu]

Need help finding a movie title, a friend of mine asked me and I have no clue what movies shes talking about. Ok, takes place in the 1800's. Circus owners steal a mermaid/siren from this castle for their show. When theres a full moon it turns into a monster and kills people by bringing them to this island. Only other info I have is that this creature spares a pregnant girl. Any help on this would be appreciated.


I think that "she monster" or something


Edit: *smack forehead* Already got the awnser I see...nevermind then

[Infested Jester]

OMG I know this movie................I think it's "She Creature"
It was part of a horror movie series on Showtime.

Edit: Yep...........it's She Creature (http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005YUNQ/701-4499041-4885904)

Ah thanks man, this gonna get me laid if I can find a copy by Saturday. :tup:

[2D is Forever]

Steam Boy - Kind of simple compared to G.I.'s other stories, but great animation and enteraining throughout.
Last Samuari - Despite Tom Cruise now, it was reallllly good, but the ending could have been better in my opinion.

[angryliberal]

strangers with candy is supposed to be out today in limited release...but none of the san diego theaters are playing it right now...

[Taito]

Collateral was wack, who agrees with me?!

[angryliberal]

didn't see it...i'm not a fan of micheal mann or tom cruise...or really jamie foxx for that matter...

[Taito]

It was shorter and less epic than the other modern Mann movies (Heat, Ali, Insider).. nothing happened in the movie, the character development was weak and the dialogue wasn't engaging.. the typical Mann style was there but that's all the 'typical Mann' that you can expect from the movie.. and it really bothered me that Foxx was a lowly cab driver but he had the PERFECT Ceasar cut..

Not being completely negative, it was one of Cruise's better performances.. he didn't 'act' the way he always acts in every movie (for instance I'd say that Cruise 'acted' in MI3 the same way he did in Jerry Maguire or Vanilla Sky.. he was fairly different in Collateral but nothing groundbreaking)..

Also the digital camera work was interesting.. I guess Mann was trying to capture the look of LA being illuminated by flickering fluorescent light, and while it's not perfect, a digicam captures that look better than film.. we'll see more of that in Miami Vice, but in smaller amounts..

Anyway for a Mann movie it was VERY disappointing.. that's pretty much my favorite director right now and the movie didn't have the character development that I like from his films..

[HeaT]

It was shorter and less epic than the other modern Mann movies (Heat, Ali, Insider).. nothing happened in the movie, the character development was weak and the dialogue wasn't engaging.. the typical Mann style was there but that's all the 'typical Mann' that you can expect from the movie.. and it really bothered me that Foxx was a lowly cab driver but he had the PERFECT Ceasar cut..

Not being completely negative, it was one of Cruise's better performances.. he didn't 'act' the way he always acts in every movie (for instance I'd say that Cruise 'acted' in MI3 the same way he did in Jerry Maguire or Vanilla Sky.. he was fairly different in Collateral but nothing groundbreaking)..

Also the digital camera work was interesting.. I guess Mann was trying to capture the look of LA being illuminated by flickering fluorescent light, and while it's not perfect, a digicam captures that look better than film.. we'll see more of that in Miami Vice, but in smaller amounts..

Anyway for a Mann movie it was VERY disappointing.. that's pretty much my favorite director right now and the movie didn't have the character development that I like from his films..

i thought the movie was really good...

why do you think the character development was weak???

im outi

Roberth

[Yasashiyama]

strangers with candy is supposed to be out today in limited release...but none of the san diego theaters are playing it right now...
I'm trying to find a theater that shows that movie too. That show was funny.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lN5ihtlSqEQ&search=Strangers%20With%20Candy

[angryliberal]

the complete series is on dvd for 39.99 on amazon, i think i'm gonna pick it up...

[Taito]

i thought the movie was really good...

why do you think the character development was weak???

im outi

Roberth
I know the movie only takes place overnight, but I guess that's the problem.. Cruise's character either has no depth or we never get to see it.. compare with Heat where we see all sides of Deniro's character-- he has thug values and kills without hesitation but he respects family values and can dine a decent girl chick out. Cruise's character basically kills for money, but we never find out why he does that or what else is going on in his life.. the whole movie just felt shallow compare to other Mann movies..

[angryliberal]

ok, i got a rant. i am in the midst of bravo's top 100 comedies, and it is BY FAR, the worst list i have ever seen in my LIFE. its so bad it makes me want to commit homocide. they placed meet the parents above spinal tap, young frankenstien and dr strangelove!!! what the fuck?!? i know lists are bs anyways, but how they could justify these choices is beyond me. they had to ask the most retarded people in the world what they thought were the funniest films and took their advice...omg, its fucking horrible.
/rant

[The Damned]

Angryliberal: Do you have a link to this list? I want to see how much it "fails".

Besides that, I finally watched Last Life in the Universe a little bit after whenever I mentioned it last--was that two weeks ago? I quite liked it, even if it was a bit weird, at least in the way it ended; I should really expect this (from foreign films), but a lot of (American) movies have made thing that's going to be some egregiously happy ending...especially if I want it.

*looks mournfully at Dancer in the Dark* :sad:

My only other thoughts on Last Life in the Universe, since I'm even sure if P. Gorath has seen it (and if he has, he's likely the only one), is that Noi smoked a lot. I mean, ye gods...that's girl is ironically committing suicide more effectively than Kenji; this reminds me that I felt bad for his "boss".

I am also reminded that there was quite a lot of smoking in Saved!, which I found odd since PG-13 and I thought they were trying to cut down on that; maybe that was only in comic books, which is why Wolverine isn't smoking anymore--yet is he in X3.

The other major movie that I saw was Monster, which was quite tragic. I was surprised, initially, about the sapphic element, since I don't even remember that being hinted at in the trailers (on TV). Of course, considering America's homophobia, that Charlize is playing an "ugly" woman, and that Christina Ricci looks younger than usual in this movie, I can see why.

Speaking of Charlize, I'm beginning to be convinced that she looks at least slightly attractive no matter what. The fact that she did the woman "justice"--so not a pun since they executed her--makes that all the more apparent to me.

As I alluded to earlier, I've seen a bunch of (minor) Sci-Fi movies on weekends, like I usually do, though I don't know how many I'll waste my time with now that I have a job. Anyway, as per usual, they all ranged from"horrendous" to "simply lacking".

Except Jeepers Creepers 2. That was fairly decent. And debatably better than the prequel...until the Creeper started doing KOF hyper hops because it was missing limbs....

:rofl:

[angryliberal]

Angryliberal: Do you have a link to this list? I want to see how much it "fails".
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=1006052926854

just to give you a small example - the following films got rated WORSE than 'meet the fockers':
dr strangelove
big lebowski
spinal tap
young frankenstein
blues brothers
tootsie
office space
princess bride
raising arizona
monty python/holy grail
clerks
annie hall

and some like it hot didn't even make the list...easily the most horrible list i've ever read...

[Dan?]

Dellamorte Dellamore is one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life. Do not, under any circumstances, view this film! It's atrocious. The characters are flat, as they all attempt to be crazy/funny/emotional/morbid/wicked awesome all at once and fail on all accounts. There's no plot, there's no message, and zero resolution. It's not even comedic in how bad it is, it just hurts the brain.

[Taito]

Anyone remember Fresh? 'Ghetto' drama from the 90s about a chess-playing kid caught up in dirty street business. Recommended.

[marcusg]

Anyone remember Fresh? 'Ghetto' drama from the 90s about a chess-playing kid caught up in dirty street business. Recommended.

I remember that movie. I got to get that on DVD.

[P. Gorath]

big weekend for movies. im going to see clerks 2, lady in the water, and monster house. I will try to find monster house in 3D. I dont care all the bad reviews lady has been getting - m. night has so far done no wrong in my book. Clerks 2 doesnt look great but Im still hoping dante and randall bring the good and jay n silent bob will not be in it much

[Taito]

What do you guys think of this movie?

http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/childrenofmen/

I like how the movie takes place about 20 years from now, but it's not all implausibly futuristic..

[P. Gorath]

goddam netflix. sent me daredevil but i want the directors cut and now it looks like they dont even carry it. useless fuckers

[P. Gorath]

watched two for the money on hbo, thought it was pretty crappy. was going to go see half nelson this weekend but will probably wait until next

[Hokuto no Jeffro]

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=1006052926854

just to give you a small example - the following films got rated WORSE than 'meet the fockers':
dr strangelove
big lebowski
spinal tap
young frankenstein
blues brothers
tootsie
office space
princess bride
raising arizona
monty python/holy grail
clerks
annie hall

and some like it hot didn't even make the list...easily the most horrible list i've ever read...
I'm actually suprised. I thought Talladega Nights and Accepted would be at the top. I guess that's one thing to be grateful for. Btw, Naked Gun and pre-murder O.J. FTW.

[P. Gorath]

watched wallace and gromit curse of the were rabbit and was surprised at how much i enjoyed it. fun stuff, some good horror film homages too.

[box]

I just watched Little Miss Sunshine... and I have to admit it was very good.

Very funny stuff. I didn't know Steve Carell was in it... but it was very entertaining. Definitely a thumbs up from me.

[P. Gorath]

come on people, let's get this thread back on track.

Saturday Night i went to an all-night horrorthon at the aero theater in santa monica where they screened night of the living dead, re-animator, house by the cemetary, castle of blood, pumpkinhead, and burial ground. House by the cemetary basically re-affirmed my distaste for fulci but it had a few cool moments.

Back at home I watched Near Dark and Slither from netflix. both were alright but nothing special. I thought Slither picked up in the second half but it mostly missed the mark, maybe because Im pretty zombie-d out by this point. Near Dark was cool but ended up being just too convential to really get into.

My mom sent me the Halloween 4 and Halloween 5 divimax edition dvds and I started watching 4 last night. I think I like it more each time (I hated it the first time I saw it). The mask takes some getting used to but the plot is much better than what follows. I still have bad feelings about part 5 but Im looking forward to the extras. I always had a fondness for part 6, especially considering the two that came after.

[angryliberal]

living in san diego, do you know how few chances we ever get to watch old movies on the big screen? there is like 1 good theater in all of san diego and not surprisingly, its in the heart of the gay community. its an old theater, but the audiences are always awesome and the movie choices are always good. it one of the only non-campus places you can watch documentaries.

onto october movies - i watched all of my faves this month. the only ones i haven't watched are the haunting(og), the omen and psycho. watched carrie for the first time in probably 15 years, i was very impressed by it. normally i am very, VERY annoyed by de palma's directing, but i liked some of the sequences in this one. my fiance had never seen the devil's rejects, so we watched that. i think i enjoyed it much more the second time. i went on a zombie fest back in august with all of night, dawn and day of the dead, along with dead alive and fulci's zombi 2. zombi 2 was all in all boring. shark vs zombie was funny, but mostly i found myself wanting to fast forward.

i watched the 100 scariest moments on bravo also. i don't know why i watch those shows. i am always overly annoyed by their choices and placement. the follow-up 30 was even worse, but i really hate most of the modern horrors. they did put dead alive and old boy on their list, but if anything, they belonged on the first...

[Sheng-Long]

If you want a horror movie, watch Amy Berg's "Deliver Us from Evil" and see true to life horror.

[P. Gorath]

living in san diego, do you know how few chances we ever get to watch old movies on the big screen? there is like 1 good theater in all of san diego and not surprisingly, its in the heart of the gay community. its an old theater, but the audiences are always awesome and the movie choices are always good. it one of the only non-campus places you can watch documentaries.

L.A. is revival heaven. We have the American Cinematheque which encompasses both the Egyptian Theatre on hollywood blvd and the Aero in santa monica; then there is the New Beverly which has 2 screenings of a revival double feature every night (3 different double features a week) as well as 1 grindhouse double feature a month, and holiday screenings (tonight and tomorrow night they are showing Fright Night and Friday the 13th).

Then there is the Nuart which does revivals occasionally along with indie stuff and foreign genre (from bubba ho tep when it originally screened to azumi, etc). And the Laemmle theaters have midnight revival shows on the weekends.

Then there is a foreign revival theatre in west l.a. that shows a lot of kurosawa stuff as well as a silent movie theater which is supposedly the last one in the country.

Man, and I'm forgetting that the El Capitan (Disney's big theater on the blvd) does weeks worth of old disney movies all the time (usually coinciding with dvd releases or anniversaries), and across the street the Graumann's chinese usually screens revivals every once in a while (lots of Amblin titles) and even the Arclight has some occasionally.

To top it all off, since this is L.A., most of the screenings mentioned above are attended by the directors, cast, cinematographers, etc who do Q&A's.

[Cyrus]

I gotta say, Spike Lee is a great director. I can say he is up there as my top 5 fav directors/producers.

I recently watched 'Do the Right Thing' and 'Clockers', both of which are amazing films. I also watched '25th Hour' and was pleased with it. Right now I have 'Girl #6' and 'Malcom X' in queue. Further down I have 'Jungle Fever' and 'He got game.'

After watching 'The Departed', I'm on a huge Scorsese high, and just finished watching 'Casino.' Sharon Stone played a superb role as Ginger. I can say comfortably Casino > Goodfellas.

I also finished watching Gangs of New York. Overall the movie was excellent, I was a little disappointed with the music composition though. It didn't feel like a Scorsese movie, especially when they started playing 'U2' during the credits of the movie.

I also have 'A Better Luck Tomorrow' in my next queue. Gonna see how that pans out.

[Cyrus]

Netflix is pure god.

Just finished watching 'Boogie Nights' and realized the homosexual guy who was infatuated with Dirk Diggler was Philip Seymour Hoffman! Good stuff. Great movie. I just added 'Capote' in my queue. Wondering how good that one is.

Recently watched 'Lock Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels.' I was watching it with the 'Snatch' mentality throughout the movie. I guess I was comparing it too much to Snatch, but Guy Richie did a good job. Overall it was a good movie, but lacked the one liners that Snatch had, as well as some of the 'coolness' factor. I did like the ending a bit more though.

Also has anyone watched 'A Scanner Darkly', w/ Keanu Reeves? It's been on my netflix queue forever and it has no indication of coming out on video.

[angryliberal]

theater info

i can say in a way i never meant it before - i hate you pg...i've got to get up to la more often...is there any place i get get listings online of whats showing at these theaters or is it more like go to them and see whats playing. what are the crowds like? how early would you suggest showing up for a movie?

[AkumaTX]

pg: So you stayed the entire time for the horrorthon? Wow if you did thats some props man.

[P. Gorath]

Netflix is pure god.

Just finished watching 'Boogie Nights' and realized the homosexual guy who was infatuated with Dirk Diggler was Philip Seymour Hoffman! Good stuff. Great movie. I just added 'Capote' in my queue. Wondering how good that one is.

Did you also notice Thomas Jane as the friend/instigator in the drug dealer scene?

i can say in a way i never meant it before - i hate you pg...i've got to get up to la more often...is there any place i get get listings online of whats showing at these theaters or is it more like go to them and see whats playing. what are the crowds like? how early would you suggest showing up for a movie?
I actually havent bought the criterion Dazed and Confused because the Bev shows it generally twice a year and I always go see it. Same with Fast Times...every time it screens, I go.

click here for New Beverly website w/ show times (http://www.michaelwilliams.com/beverlycinema/) - they also have a myspace page

Egyptian and Aero listings are at www.americancinematheque.com

other listings are on yahoo movies or the like if you browse by area code

crowds are not an issue; it is a regular thing so even the most popular screening is fine. I've been to screenings with david cronenberg, quentin tarantino, stuart gordon, etc and crowds were never a problem and you dont have to get there too early.

Another good thing about the egyptian is that they show the 70mm prints of some movies like Lawrence of Arabia, Patton, Playtime, and Baraka which you really cant see anywhere else and dvd does not do justice.

[angryliberal]

omg...the new beverly has sooooo many films i want to see...

[Cyrus]

Did you also notice Thomas Jane as the friend/instigator in the drug dealer scene?


Holy shit, I did not realize that! Good stuff.

[angryliberal]

ok, so we are coming up on the "oscar season" of films. which films do you think will be worth seeing. the only one i'm excited to see is mel gidsons new film, i think it will be an amazing piece. i want to see volver, i hear its another very good film, and i still need to see the departed. i don't know if i will have a chance to see the departed though, maybe it will get a re-release at oscar time...

[Taito]

I'm pretty sure Scorcese will get snubbed again for The Departed.. I don't see a movie of that subject matter (as well as an adapted story) getting a lot of praise.. I see it getting nominated for Best Screenplay (would this be an Original or Adapted Screenplay? Don't know) and Supporting Actor for Mark Wahlberg or Jack Nicholson, and other technical awards.. but like I said, I'm counting on a total snub.

I hope there isn't another Eastwood jerkfest at the Oscars, regardless of how good Flags/Letters is supposed to be..

[angryliberal]

i was watching goodfellas last night and literally laughing out loud at the fact that kevin costner and dances with wolves took the oscars that year. if nothing else, that proves how much of a farce the oscars are...

[Geese Pants]

Anyone seen Master of the Flying Guillotine.................my friends have told me that it is "the" classic old school martial arts movie.

[angryliberal]

i've heard of it, but i've never seen it. you could count the number of martial arts films i've seen on 2 hands...

[NG1313]

Swordmaster 2 looked pretty cool from a trailer I saw. Anyone seen it?

Watched Legend Of A Fighter.. great film. It has a funny sequence where the son is so angered that his father won't teach him kung-fu, that he runs off to the forest to cry. Apart from that, it's a cool film with great characters, and alot of focus on actual fighting and martial arts.

A picture says more than a thousand words:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/CrazyDevil/vlcsnap-332196.png

[matrix9280]

Ok movie experts, rank these three movies in order from best to worst and tell me why.

Nine Months
Mystic Pizza
She's the One

[angryliberal]

honestly, i would shoot myself in the balls before watching any of those...so they all rank right below self castration with a shotgun...

[Dem-Dem]

Anyone seen Master of the Flying Guillotine.................my friends have told me that it is "the" classic old school martial arts movie.

fuckin a man that movie is what inspired SFII. Only problem is everyother nationality was played by a chinese person.

The skillet scene was by far the best martial arts fight scene i've seen. Thai food anyone? hahahahaha

[Dem-Dem]

Ok movie experts, rank these three movies in order from best to worst and tell me why.

Nine Months
Mystic Pizza
She's the One

DUDE are you pussy whipped are something. I think you would have got a better response trying to discuss animated family movies. Or those Campy comming of age teen movies.

[matrix9280]

I've never seen them and through certain circumstances those three movies came into my possesion. So before viewing them I was just wondering what to expect.

Just because a movie is a "chick flick" so to speak doesn't mean that it's bad. Titanic is one of the greatest movies ever. .The funniest movie ever There's Something About Mary is a chick flick too.

[angryliberal]

Titanic is one of the greatest movies ever.

really, i just wanted to quote this. i don't think i should say much else...

[Demon Dash]

So I'm a fanatic of TV MILF..... Yeahhh...

[P. Gorath]

mini rant:

Rocky V > you. Rocky V > every movie you love or hate. Rocky "Go for it" V is a worthy edition to the Rocky canon and stands well on its own right. You are not a Rocky fan if you don't like Rocky V. Most of the people on here are my age or younger, so I know for 98% of you, Rocky V was the first Rocky that you could actually go see in the theater. It was also the first Rocky that didnt stick exactly to formula (beyond the recap of the fight from the previous film) which is one of the main reasons fans give it grief (god help someone tries something different). I mean really, if you compare rocky IV with V, IV is much more laughable (paulie's robot anyone?).

Rocky V is the most quotable of the sequels, it's got the return of sage stallone from Over the Top...and it's the most quotable of the sequels!

Plus theres no song track by survivor on the score

[angryliberal]

i've decided every single movie "geek" has a weakness of some sort that other "geeks" would consider bad movies. with me, its comedies, stupid comedies. i like trash that some people would mock me for like zoolander or grandma's boy, hell i would mock others for that kind of trash. my ex always had a soft spot for cheesey romantic comedies. i couldn't stand em, but she loved em. with pg, i've noticed he enjoys alot of horros and 80's cinema that i find rather counter-intuitive to his usual movie fare. i think this points to a major aspect of cinema, entertainemnt factor. people always classify "movie geeks" as people who only watch art house films and must break every film down to its smallest elements. we all still have the ability to seperate what we consider fine art of cinema from the entertainment of cinema. these two aspects are not mutually exclusive, many times they cross path.

i think because of this prejudice, you get alot of people who automatically assume things about some one who does have a knowledge of cinema. it also lends itself to forcing cinema geek newbies into thinking they have to like only artistic films. i dunno, maybe i'm overthinking it, but its something i've noticed lately...

[HeaT]

The Fountain was the shiznittle pure and simple...probably deserves its own thread for a crazy ass discussion...but whatever...

im outi

Roberth

[Geese Pants]

It's the end of the year..............so let's get your top 3 movies of 2006 posted. Since I've only seen two in theatres........ I'll have to add on later.

2. Pirates of the Carribean: Deadman's Chest - Davy Jones is the shiznit. I am impressed with all the visual effects..............even though the overall story didn't feel like a complete story.

1. The Prestige: Hugh Jackman + Christian Bale = Gold.

[P. Gorath]

im still working on my top ten best and worst list but there are still alot of movies from december to get in there.

And I keep hearing from everyone irl that the fountain is great

[angryliberal]

i've heard mixed reviews of it, but mostly they have said its visually stunning, which is always a bonus for me. unfortunately for me, my ability to go see movies is hindered by my complete lack of cash this month...

[angryliberal]

k, i know jester and pg could answer this, how disturbing or realistic are the guinea pig series?

[Satomiblood]

I know this is dated, but here's a review I wrote for my college paper on Memoirs of a Geisha when I first saw it in January.

~

The Sad Truth About Memoirs of a Geisha

When it was announced that Ziyi Zhang would be starring as Sayuri in the film adaptation of Arthur Golden's Memoirs of a Geisha, many in Japan expressed their displeasure over a Chinese actress selected to play the lead role, accusing the film's producers of overlooking superior Japanese talent.

Memoirs of a Geisha begins on a dark, rainy night in 1929 when 9-year-old Chiyo (Suzuka Ohgo) is forcibly removed from her village home and sold to an "okiya" (a geisha house) located in Kyoto's Gion district. The proprietor, affectionately referred to as "Auntie Oima" (Tsai Chin), dismisses Chiyo as a country girl upon seeing her muddied feet. Chin briefly steals the scene as Oima: a hardnosed woman with a pipe-smoking bravado.

Another female character making life in the okiya difficult for Chiyo is Hatsumomo: a conniving geisha made jealous by Chiyo's blossoming potential. Conventional film tells us to cheer for the heroine while jeering the rogue, but viewers may find themselves rooting in favor of Hatsumomo. Yeah, she might be a big-time sadist. And she does have a tendency to bring down the okiya's reputation-up late night, sleeping around, hair and kimono disheveled with a hangover to boot. Li Gong plays the hell out of Hatsumomo, reminding us just how interesting villains can be.

Ziyi Zhang's first appearance in Memoirs does not come until halfway, but she is effective nonetheless. Zhang is without question an adorable presence on screen. Her face is capable of making a camera blush and their expressions will make you believe the moon is made of lemon meringue.

Memoirs of a Geisha is not without its rough edges. Let's face it: this movie lacks a higher level of authenticity. Despite being set in Japan, the dialogue is predominantly English. Pre-release articles suggested Zhang was required to learn intensive Japanese, which gave the impression that Memoirs would be categorized as a foreign release. This was a gross overstatement. Ziyi and other non-Japanese actors only spoke a few lines of the language.

Another issue lies in Chiyo becoming a proper geisha. When girls as young as 5 move to an okiya, they are trained in various disciplines (e.g. tea ceremony and conceptual dance). Think of it as a glorified sorority. It takes upwards of 10 years before they are allowed a formal debut. In Memoirs, this process was cut down to only a few months, giving Chiyo's transformation into Sayuri a rushed feel.

Most people think of geishas as high-class prostitutes, and the okiya nothing more than a high-end brothel, but this is a common misconception. They specialize in fine etiquette and performance arts. If a geisha were found promiscuous, the okiya would under most circumstances disown her. Late in Memoirs, Sayuri, torn by unrequited love, auctions her virginity to the highest bidder. This only fuels the notion that a geisha is limited to sexual compromise.

The fourth major flaw is its reliance on visual flair. It's superficial: nothing more than 2 hours of elaborate kimonos and a not so bizarre love triangle. Memoirs fails to wean itself of the tripe often associated with modern American cinema.

No one has a greater problem with Memoirs of a Geisha than Mineko Iwasaki, the basis of both the film and novel. During the 1990s, Arthur Golden befriended Iwasaki and referred to her during the book's production stages. The relationship between Golden and Iwasaki later soured following its publication in 1998. Iwasaki accused Golden of breaching a confidentiality agreement that protected her name from being mentioned as a source. She also accused Golden of taking instances from her life and greatly exaggerating them to the point of near defamation. Both parties settled out of court in 2003.

If you would like more information on Mineko Iwasaki, please refer to her 2003 autobiography entitled Geisha, A Life (U.S.) or its U.K. equivalent Geisha of Gion.

Grade: C

[P. Gorath]

I also did not enjoy Geisha. For a more honest look at a similar circumstance I would suggest Moll Flanders

and oh god angrylib - THEY ARE DOING IT TO US AGAIN!

from criterion coming in january - new editions of Yojimbo and Sanjuro
Yojimbo:All-new, restored high-definition digital transfer

Optional Dolby Digital 3.0 soundtrack, preserving the original Perspecta simulated-stereo effects

Audio commentary by film historian and Kurosawa scholar Stephen Prince

A 45-minute documentary on the making of Yojimbo, created as part of the Toho Masterworks series Akira Kurosawa: It Is Wonderful to Create

Theatrical trailer and teaser

Stills gallery of behind-the-scenes photos

New and improved English subtitle translation

PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by critic Alexander Sesonske and notes from Kurosawa and his cast and crew


Sanjuro:
All-new, restored high-definition digital transfer

Optional Dolby Digital 3.0 soundtrack, preserving the original Perspecta simulated-stereo effects

Audio commentary by film historian and Kurosawa scholar Stephen Prince

A 35-minute documentary on the making of Sanjuro, created as part of the Toho Masterworks series Akira Kurosawa: It Is Wonderful to Create

Theatrical trailer and teaser

Stills gallery of behind-the-scenes photos

New and improved English subtitle translation

PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by critic Michael Sragow and notes and statements from Kurosawa and his cast and crew


Note that the current criterion dvds of these films had non-anomorphic transfers and no extras, not even the commentaries.

Criterion is also releasing them packaged together

http://www.criterionco.com/asp/release.asp?id=52
http://www.criterionco.com/asp/release.asp?id=53
http://www.criterionco.com/asp/connections.asp?id=63

time to put the old ones on ebay...

[angryliberal]

lucky for me, i hadn't picked those up. i almost purchased that four disk set, but you saved my ass on that one and i ended up only getting seven samurai. i'll be picking these up when i have some cash next year...

[angryliberal]

awards season has officially kicked off with the golden globes noms.

www.hfpa.org

some interesting notes -

leo gets 2 noms in the same catagory: actor in a leading role - drama
2 of the foriegn language movies are directed by american directors - letters and apocalypto

i'd also like to make a case for borat being a true contendor for at least lead actor oscar nom - though the academy doesn't honor comedy as much as they should, sacha cohen deserves the actor nom simply because of the challenge of the role he played. while most actors get take after take to perfect the scene, most his work was done with only one shot at keeping character and convince real people of his character.

[P. Gorath]

but at the same time he has had multiple seasons and many episodes to perfect the shtick

[angryliberal]

yeah, thats what my fiance said too...

[MvC2fanatic]

jus saw Harsh times. for some reason I found that movie fuckikng hilarious.

Not as violent as i thought it would be but i can relate to it well.

peeps should check it out if theyre looking for something unblockbuster

[Taichi]

My Top Three:

POTC: DMC- Despite the fact that it wasn't as good as the first, it's still a decent flick....

Clerks II- I fuckin' liked it

Superman Returns- Okay, so I like train wreck films, but I got what I wanted out of the film....and that was to see how modern special effects would handle Superman......

[P. Gorath]

My Top Three:

POTC: DMC- Despite the fact that it wasn't as good as the first, it's still a decent flick....

Clerks II- I fuckin' liked it

Superman Returns- Okay, so I like train wreck films, but I got what I wanted out of the film....and that was to see how modern special effects would handle Superman......

agree on clerks 2, Superman was a big disappointment though...

For everyone with Netflix - let's get an srk friends list going. Mine is gfowlkes at gmail dot com for those who want to add

[3b1r4h]

just saw a korean film called sympathy for lady vengence,

BAD ASS

[angryliberal]

just saw a korean film called sympathy for lady vengence,

BAD ASS

my friend recomended that movie to me.

anglib420 @ yahoo dot com for my netflix account...add me...

top 3 what? films of 2006? man, of the ones i've seen it would be like borat, little miss sunshine and thats about it...i still need to see the departed and such...

[3b1r4h]

I'd go with The Departed as number 1.
I'd also say best editing for Departed and best supporting actor (wahlberg.)

Borat, while it probably won't see any awards, is DEFINITELY my 2nd.

I didn't see a lot of other movies that I liked this year. I tend to not really watch most mainstream cinema, but I watch a lot of asian cinema.

[P. Gorath]

is murdoch you lib? film school queue right there...
doesnt your fiance get any picks?

[angryliberal]

yeah, we actually have a split off, i have a five at a time account, i get 3, she has 2 of them, they don't show up in my account...i really don't know how she shares her list with anyone...and its murdock, not that it matters...

her list pretty much covers the "fluff" of our watching. i'm not saying its crap, its just stuff you can usually watch with friends while drinking. also, ALOT of romantic comedies - one of the only types of movies i cannot stand...

[angryliberal]

well, i rated some more films...up to 914...still bout 100 short of you there pg...i was kinda surprised by some of your ratings...overall, it looked about as i expected, but some of the films you gave 4 stars surprised me alot...i'm pretty fucking strict when it comes to 4-5 stars...they have to be movies that blow me away...

[Akutabi Gamma]

Quick opinion on Eragon-
IMO the movie's events seemed to have rushed from the very start of it, and the movie focused a lot on the main character and the final battle.
I really wished they might've focused a bit more on the world of the book, plus I don't like how Safeera looks like a lizard with bird wings and HAIR, though I belive all the dragons are supposed to be like that :P.

I haven't read the book yet, but might in the future, but from my first watch I'd give this movie....hmmm 3/5.
Also is it me or did that Shade look like Falcoon after getting a lypo suction or something?

[P. Gorath]

yeah, we actually have a split off, i have a five at a time account, i get 3, she has 2 of them, they don't show up in my account...i really don't know how she shares her list with anyone...and its murdock, not that it matters...
5 at a time? damn, baller :rofl: We get 3, my girl getting 1 of them because she is always slow in watching them. Do you friends call you howlin' mad murdock?

well, i rated some more films...up to 914...still bout 100 short of you there pg...i was kinda surprised by some of your ratings...overall, it looked about as i expected, but some of the films you gave 4 stars surprised me alot...i'm pretty fucking strict when it comes to 4-5 stars...they have to be movies that blow me away...
Yeah I'm not too strict on netfilx ratings, an 8 point (4 stars with half points) or 10 point (5 stars w/ half points) would be more accurate than just the 5 point scale they have. This means some of my 4 stars may really be 3.5 stars, while others could be 4.5 stars, etc. What ones were surprising though? Like Ebert I dont rate across all genres or even series' so a 4 star Friday the 13th doesnt necessarily equal a 4 star Kurosawa. There are a ton of movies from like 1982-1990 that I have seen but don't feel I can really remember the whole films well enough to rate honestly (neverending story and the last unicorn come to mind)

[angryliberal]

i agree that they need to go to a more accurate rating system. alot of my five stars and four stars would not rate equal in an 8-10 star system. like "the burbs" is one of my favorite movies of all time, but on a 10 star scale, it would be an 8, while clockwork orange would be a nine, tens would be very hard to attain...maybe psycho or casablanca...

we definately get through dee's movies much faster than mine because alot of times, i have to watch mine alone cuz they aren't her cup of tea...

in second grade, i started attending public school after being in christian school for a couple of years and every single kid wanted to play a-team with me just so i could be murdock...

[P. Gorath]

The Evil Dead
Evil Dead 2: Dead by Dawn
The Exorcist: Restored Version
Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Ferris Bueller's Day Off

come on now, I come across all 5 of these classics in a row under your 3 stars ratings??? You got at least three 5 star movies here

[angryliberal]

come on now, I come across all 5 of these classics in a row under your 3 stars ratings??? You got at least three 5 star movies here

i didn't like the restored version of exorcist that much and the other ones all appeal to me, but don't break that 3 scale except maybe evil dead, which i need to see more than 1 time before i give it a much more accurate rating...thats teh thing, alot of the 3 star movies fall under the catagory of needing followup viewings...and i like the 80's standards, but they aren't films i would just watch...maybe i've seen em so much that i don't need to see them again. i dunno, ferris is good, but i don't think it cracks more than 3 and fast times COULD go up by one, i just need to see it a few more times to ensure it...sean penn is epic in it...

[P. Gorath]

yeah you need to watch r-rated fast times again...

and you really dont like romantic comedies

[angryliberal]

omg, i hate them and dee loves em...now, there are movies that break that mold like something about mary, but most of em make me sick. i don't even have a thing against love in a movie, but it has to be just right...like eternal sunshine blows me out of the water...its one of the best "love" movies i've ever seen...same with casablanca...

[P. Gorath]

aw come on, but doesnt ryan reynolds just melt your heart in Just Friends?

[angryliberal]

ok, you caught me...i <3 that ryan reynolds. he's actually pretty funny, but he's the same in everything, he has like one character. i did like waiting, but i like that kind of comedy...its one of my weaknesses...i mean, look at my queue and know that i also love movies like zoolander...

[HeaT]

ok, you caught me...i <3 that ryan reynolds. he's actually pretty funny, but he's the same in everything, he has like one character. i did like waiting, but i like that kind of comedy...its one of my weaknesses...i mean, look at my queue and know that i also love movies like zoolander...

he didnt play the same in amittyville (sp) horror...he was actually pretty decent in that movie, even though the movie sucked...

im outi

Roberth

[Satomiblood]

I'm thinking about picking up Francis Ford Coppola's The Outsiders after work. What do you guys think?

[P. Gorath]

the uncut version adds a lot, all the extras are good except for the no-show of two or so cast members

[E_VAYD]

If it comes to romantic comedies to like, just go with some older stuff like The Palm Beach Story, The Philadelphia Story, or Billy Wilder movies. They're not the namsy-pamsy Nancy Meyers dreck and are actually funny. But then again, I'm a fan of golden age screwball comedies.

[angryliberal]

so i saw talledega nights this weekend. now, as mentioned before, i'm a sucker for low brow humor, so i did find the movie funny. it does, however, have what i have labelled as the "zoolander effect". this is where something is mildly humorous on first viewing but becomes increasingly funny with each subsequent viewings. this can be a large deterent for people who normally don't watch comedies, as they don't want to have to watch a movie several times to find out if they really thinks it's funny.

[P. Gorath]

inconvenient truth = the truth

[Satomiblood]

Little Miss Sunshine comes out on DVD tomorrow for those that are interested.

[angryliberal]

i have lms on my xmas dvd list, so i'm pretty sure my mom is getting it for me...if not, it'll be a trip to best buy right after xmas...

[P. Gorath]

oh yeah, I also watched the uncut Miami Vice dvd. I enjoyed the movie a lot. It was no Collateral, but still did its thing. I think calling it "Miami Vice" wasn't really the best decision, and the script had some problems, but the direction, score, and overall style made up for it. The big shoot-out at the end was great and it was nice seeing Herc in a movie. Not enough nudity though.

[TheMaidenMasha]

Top 3 Movies of the year?

Apocalypto
The Departed
Borat


Honourable Mention - The Prestige

[SFFanatic]

so i saw talledega nights this weekend. now, as mentioned before, i'm a sucker for low brow humor, so i did find the movie funny. it does, however, have what i have labelled as the "zoolander effect". this is where something is mildly humorous on first viewing but becomes increasingly funny with each subsequent viewings. this can be a large deterent for people who normally don't watch comedies, as they don't want to have to watch a movie several times to find out if they really thinks it's funny.


QFT

LMAO @ Zoolander effect. Add Anchorman to that list. I thought it was pretty funny at first, now I think one of the best movies ever.

[angryliberal]

Not enough nudity though.

is there ever enough?

[P. Gorath]

so I was going to pm this but then I thought it might seem a little cowardly so then I was going to start a new thread but then I thought that would just be attention whoring so I'm just going to slip this in here: I should have done this a while a go but I apologize to angryliberal for comments I made about his significant other. I knew it was the wrong thing to do at the time but I felt like sensitive aspects my personal life were being intruded upon in a manner not straight with the truth. Regardless, my words were not warranted and I am doubly sorry because in actuality I do not feel that way or hold that opinion about that person but rather latched onto it due to laziness/lack of wit/whatever

[angryliberal]

pg, obviously i appreciate this greatly. i had gotten over the comments a while ago, accepting the context in which they came, but i still greatly appreciate it. overall, i think you and i are people who have very similar views and would otherwise be friendly with each other. anyways, thak you very much. i also apologize for what i said about you, the setting was volatile and i also attacked what i thought would be the most sensitive. i apologize for that.

[NG1313]

Been listening to marvelous tunes by Ennio Morricone for the past month. I'm really liking the sound of his western themes. Makes me want to check out the movies. The spaghetti-western genre. Anyone seen films like Death Rides A Horse and For A Few Dollars More/ Fistful Of Dollars?

[Satomiblood]

Just got Haven on DVD the other day. From the makers of Crash.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386504/

[celcius]

I'm watching the LOTR trilogy this week.
Rating = 5 stars

[angryliberal]

i hope it's the extended versions...

[P. Gorath]

watched a scanner darkly last night

can someone tell me wtf was going on in that movie?

[angryliberal]

we have it at the house right now...i'll watch it this weekend

[HeaT]

watched a scanner darkly last night

can someone tell me wtf was going on in that movie?

i will try to explain, this is going to be a HUGE SPOILER!!! HUGE SPOILER!!! SPOILER!!! if you havent seen the movie...

basically keanue was being set up from the get go by whinona rider's (sp) character. he was sent in undercover to bust some people doing substance D ( i think this is what they called it i dont remember exactly) and who was distributing it. this is what he was led to believe.

but since he was being set up the real reason he was assigned to that undercover joint was so he would actually get addicted to the drug. the reason they wanted him addicted to the drug was because the people behind the whole operation knew that the company manufacturing the drug had a 'rehabilitating facility' for people hardcore addicted to it. this rehabiliting center was actually where they took the brain dead (which Keanue became at the end) people from overuse of the drug to farm fields of that flower that was used to make the drug.

they wanted a man on the inside so he can give them the location of the drug companys production center, which is where keanue ended up at the end.

the thing is there was no real guarantee that keanue would actually be able to tell them where this plantation was, and they knew this, because of how damaging the drug is to your brain. they were just hoping that he would remember something after he was assigned to that plantation place...so basically they sacraficed his ass...pretty messed up...

im outi

Roberth

[P. Gorath]

ok, thats basically what I thought.

and you know we have spoiler tags now, right?

[SFFanatic]

watched a scanner darkly last night

can someone tell me wtf was going on in that movie?


LMAO I felt the exact same way after watching Akria. That movie was suppose to be SO good, but I didn't know WTF was going on half the time.

[P. Gorath]

LMAO I felt the exact same way after watching Akria. That movie was suppose to be SO good, but I didn't know WTF was going on half the time.

yeah that's what happens when you have to make a movie out of a story that spans six huge graphic novels. And Akira was the only anime we had back in the day, not like you spoiled kids nowadays

[HeaT]

ok, thats basically what I thought.

and you know we have spoiler tags now, right?

oh right on, didnt really know...

so did you like the movie??? i thought it was pretty tight...

im outi

Roberth

[SFFanatic]

yeah that's what happens when you have to make a movie out of a story that spans six huge graphic novels. And Akira was the only anime we had back in the day, not like you spoiled kids nowadays

Yeah well that doesn't give the movie an excuse. Also, this young whippersnapper did real those novels later on.

Rocky Balboa was a great ass movie. Sly wrote/directed/acted in a great, great film. If I had it my way, he'd be a Best Actor nod, but it'll properly go to Leo :arazz: (Its not that I don't like Leo, its just that I can't get over that baby face of his. Trying to act and hard and grow a beard didn't help. Neither did having that phonyass accent in Blood Diamond either.

[ChairHome]

Did anyone see the movie "One Missed Call"? Its another Japanese horror movie along the lines of "The Ring". I thought it was pretty good, but could someone explain the ending to me? It seemed like a joke.

[AkumaTX]

so i watched eragon. Ok movie like a 2/5. Ive never read the book or anything but on a sole movie critic, movie felt like it was rushed. Like they tried to cram and move the story along way too fast.

[matrix9280]

What's the longest American movie ever made? A couple that came to mind were:

Once Upon a Time in America: 229 minutes
Godfather 2: 200 minutes
Lawrence of Arabia: 216 minutes
The Ten Commandments: 220 minutes
Lord of the Rings Return of the King: 201 minutes (252 minutes extended edition)
Dances with Wolves Director's Cut: 236 minutes
Ben Hur: 212 minutes

Kill Bill would have been up there (both volumes together are 247 minutes long) but the movie was split up. Are there any other movies that are up in the 200+minute range that I may have missed? If so please let me know. I'm still trying to figure out what's the longest movie ever made.

P.S. I already checked Wikipedia and all they had were a bunch of experimental or foreign films. I wouldn't even count those as movies.

[P. Gorath]

I'm guessing the answer would be von Stroheim's Greed, an American film whose final print ran 10 hours long. Unfortunately MGM later had it re-cut and destroyed most of the negative so now we only have a 239 minute restored cut available.

[YellowS4]

I enjoyed A Scanner Darkly, the ending threw me for a loop trying to remember what the fuck he was doing haha.

Sat through the Riddick trilogy again over the weekend; still good, nothing great but plenty of potential in the char / universe still imo.

Gonna go through Half Nelson & Good Sheppard later.

HK movies still suck.

[Chozen1]

HK movies still suck.

what? either the ones you have seem are either stupid or you have a lousy choice in selecting the channel 5 action cinema specials. (im assuming you're referring to hong kong films) if so, try blade of fury for starters

[P. Gorath]

I enjoyed A Scanner Darkly, the ending threw me for a loop trying to remember what the fuck he was doing haha.

Sat through the Riddick trilogy again over the weekend; still good, nothing great but plenty of potential in the char / universe still imo.

Gonna go through Half Nelson & Good Sheppard later.

HK movies still suck.

they made a third riddick? or do you mean some cartoon or other?

[YellowS4]

Dark Fury is considered canon apparently.

I think they put Escape from Butcher Bay a part of canon as well lol. Quadrilogy!

[Weeks]

wtf. Hong Kong movies rock. A Better Tomorrow, The Killer, Hard Boiled...these movies kick ass!

[AkumaTX]

what are some good kung fu flicks with lots of action.

[NG1313]

what are some good kung fu flicks with lots of action.

Shaolin & Wu Tang. Buy it tomorrow.

[Chozen1]

re: above

you obviously need a lot to learn about the genre

[AkumaTX]

re: above

you obviously need a lot to learn about the genre
yet you dont attempt to help.

[SFFanatic]

yet you dont attempt to help.

Great, now we're gonna get this huge rant about how awesome Kung-Fu movies are, how much of a fakeass bitch Bruce Lee was, and a laundry list of subbed and dubbed flicks.

Just joking ya know('cept for the Bruce Lee part) >_>

Anyway, watched A Scanner Darkly today. I liked it, in that "WTF is this shit" kinda thing.

[Debaser]

what are some good kung fu flicks with lots of action.

There's a kung fu movie thread a few pages back if you want to search for it.

[angryliberal]

has anyone seen "pan's labyrinth'? it's getting some pretty good reviews...

[Geese Pants]

Something I received in my email today.................

Black Author wins The Matrix Copyright Infringement Case

This little known story has met a just conclusion, as Sophia Stewart,
African American author of The Matrix will finally receive her just due
from the copyright infringement of her original work!!!

A six-year dispute has ended involving Sophia Stewart, the Wachowski Brothers, Joel Silver and Warner Brothers. Stewart's allegations, involving copyright infringement and racketeering, were received and acknowledged by the Central District of California, Judge Margaret Morrow
residing. Stewart, a New Yorker who has resided in Salt Lake City for the past
five years, will recover damages from the films, The Matrix I, II and III, as
well as The Terminator and its sequels. She will soon receive one of the
biggest payoffs in the history of Hollywood, as the gross receipts of both
films and their sequels total over 2.5 billion dollars.

Stewart filed her case in 1999, after viewing the Matrix, which she felt
had been based on her manuscript, "The Third Eye," copyrighted in 1981.
In the mid-eighties Stewart had submitted her manuscript to an ad placed by
the Wachowski Brothers, requesting new sci-fi works.

According to court documentation, an FBI investigation discovered that more
than thirty minutes had been edited from the original film, in an attempt
to avoid penalties for copyright infringement. The investigation also
stated that "credible witnesses employed at Warner Brothers came forward,
claiming that the executives and lawyers had full knowledge that the work
in question did not belong to the Wachowski Brothers." These witnesses
claimed to have seen Stewart's original work and that it had been "often
used during preparation of the motion pictures." The defendants tried, on
several occasions, to have Stewart's case dismissed, without success.

Stewart has confronted skepticism on all sides, much of which comes from
Matrix fans, who are strangely loyal to the Wachowski Brothers.
One on-line forum, entitled Matrix Explained has an entire section devoted to Stewart. Some who have researched her history and writings are open to her story.

Others are suspicious and mocking. "It doesn't bother me," said Stewart in a phone
interview last week, "I always knew what was true."

Some fans, are unaware of the case or they question its legitimacy, due to
the fact that it has received little to no media coverage. Though the case
was not made public until October of 2003, Stewart has her own explanation,
as quoted at aghettotymz.com:

"The reason you have not seen any of this in the media is because Warner
Brothers parent company is AOL-Time Warner... this GIANT owns 95 percent of
the media... let me give you a clue as to what they own in the media
business... New York Times papers/magazines, LA Times papers/magazines,
People Magazine, CNN news, Extra, Celebrity Justice, Entertainment Tonight,
HBO, New Line Cinema, Dreamworks, Newsweek, Village Roadshow... many,
many more!... They are not going to report on themselves. They have been
surpressing my case for years..."

Fans who have taken Stewart's allegations seriously, have found eerie
mythological parallels, which seem significant in a case that revolves
around the highly metaphorical and symbolic Matrix series. Sophia, the Greek
goddess of wisdom has been referenced many times in speculation about Stewart. In
one book about the Goddess Sophia, it reads, "The black goddess is the
mistress of web creation spun in her divine matrix"

Although there have been outside implications as to racial injustice
(Stewart is African American), she does not feel that this is the case.
"This is all about the Benjamins," said Stewart. "It's not about money with
me. It's about justice."

Stewart's future plans involve a record label, entitled Popsilk Records, and
a motion picture production company, All Eyez On Me, in reference to God.
"I wrote The Third Eye to wake people up, to remind them why God put them here.
There's more to life than money," said Stewart. "My whole to the world is
about God and good and about choice, about spirituality over 'technocracy'."

If Stewart represents spirituality, then she truly has prevailed over the
"technocracy" represented in both the Terminator and the Matrix, and now,
ironically, by their supposed creators.

Stewart is currently having discussions with CBS about a possible exclusive
story and has several media engagements in the near future to nationally
publicize her victory.
June 13th 2004. Sophia Stewart's press release read: "The Matrix & Terminator
movie franchises have made world history and have ultimately changed the
way people view movies and how Hollywood does business, yet the real truth
about the creator and creation of these films continue to elude the
masses because the hidden secret of the matter is that these films were created
and written by a Black woman... a Black woman named Sophia Stewart. But
Hollywood does not want you to know this fact simply because it would change history. Also it would encourage our Black children to realize a dream and that is...
nothing is impossible for them to achieve!"

[P. Gorath]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/matrix.asp

[Geese Pants]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/matrix.asp

Hmmmm..........I was skeptical for a minute. Conspiracy? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_Stewart)

[angryliberal]

i <3 snopes

[NG1313]

re: above

you obviously need a lot to learn about the genre

I dunno what you're talking about here.. regardless, it's one of the best films ever made. I dunno what the fuck your point is.

[bigpoppa]

I'm a HUGE fan of horror movies, especially early 80's slashers.

One of my all time favorite slashers is The Burning. It has a typical plot - A group of kids at camp play a prank on the caretaker. The prank involves fire, and the caretaker ends up getting burned VERY badly, and then takes his revenge. A typical horror movie plot. It's a bloody slasher, so if you're a fan of gore, you'd love it.

P. Gorath would probably know about this movie. The raft scene is one of the best death sequences ever

[Sano]

has anyone seen "pan's labyrinth'? it's getting some pretty good reviews...

I saw it last night. It's really good and hyper bloody and violent. It takes place in Spain during war time and the movie doesn't flinch showing you the horrors of war despite it's fairy tale setting. The villain in the movie, the Captain of the military is one evil sadistic bastard. There's fairies, a faun, a mandragora AKA mandrake and things of that nature only not exactly kid friendly in it's depiction so to speak. It's like the reviewers say - a fairy tale story for adults. The pacing is bit slow for my tastles but still I give it 5 out of 5 stars. It's in spanish and is subtitled. Go see it! :tup:

[angryliberal]

yeah, i really want to see it, i just have to find a theater playing it here in san diego...

[DaDesiCanadian]

Ok, so I haven't watched any good movies in a while(well.. a few)..i'm thinking of catching up on older movies that I haven't seen yet. Any recommendations? (obviously you don't know what movies i've seen, but throw out em suggestions anyway.)

So far i've got on the list:

1.) Little Miss Sunshine
2.) Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Things i've already seen:

1.) Scoop
2.) The Departed
3.) The Prestige
4.) Borat.

And you guys can go way back.. i'm a fan of the old school b&w movies too.

[angryliberal]

ummm...go to the official dvd thread and check the dvd haves and wants of me and pg on our dvdaf pages(link on the first page)...thats a good place to start...

[Deus]

i highly recommend "spring, summer, winter, fall and spring"

[Lebowsk1]

Ok I saw Rushmore for the second time and was even more impressed this time around. I also like the Coen Bros stuff, natch. Will check out this thread some more.

But yeah, Rushmore... Bill Murray's first "indie-flick rebirth" film? Definitely the best I've seen (I definitely DO NOT like Lost in Translation, although it was kind of the motivation for me to plan a trip to Japan. to be like the complete opposite of how Bill Murray and Scarlet were in that film)

[angryliberal]

watch the tennenbaums if you like murray...

[Deus]

watch the tennenbaums if you like murray...

watch the life aquatic first, then tenenbaums

[Lebowsk1]

Tenenbaums is good, another one I'd like to see again. I mostly just remember that Gene Hackman rofl scene. "I'm dying"

[Lebowsk1]

Ok, anybody fancy tiering the Coen Bros films?

God: The Big Lebowski
Top: Miller's Crossing, Fargo
Upper-Middle: O Brother Where Art Thou?, The Man Who Wasnt There, Barton Fink
Lower-Middle: Intolerable Cruelty, The Ladykillers, Raising Arizona
Bottom: Blood Simple

Not that Blood Simple is bad, but you can tell it's like their first film. Don't think I've forgotten any there... and no, I havent seen Hudsucker Proxy yet, need to check that out.

[angryliberal]

ok, how is raising arizona in the same tier as intolerable cruelty?!? i mean, ask anyone here, i fucking HATE nicky cage, but arizona is fucking brilliant. and blood simple at the bottom? i dunno man...your tiers need some work...

also, they didn't write bad santa, they produced it.

[Lebowsk1]

ok, how is raising arizona in the same tier as intolerable cruelty?!? i mean, ask anyone here, i fucking HATE nicky cage, but arizona is fucking brilliant. and blood simple at the bottom? i dunno man...your tiers need some work...

also, they didn't write bad santa, they produced it.

Intolerable Cruelty wasnt that great, but it had one of the most incredible slapstick gags in it that I have ever seen.

Wheezy Joe's death

All I remember about Raising Arizona was that showdown with the biker dude. I prolly need to see it again, one of the films I'm least familiar with.

I've removed Bad Santa, my bad. Blood Simple stays where it is because to me it's like a rough-draft of Fargo. Although hey, there is that bit that inspired the Radiohead music video... it's still a great film.

Still... you don't have any complains about the God/Top tiers now that Bad Santa is gone? You can't really go wrong with Leb, Millers and Fargo.

[angryliberal]

i agree, although i wouldn't differentiate them on the coen brothers scale. all three are very different and very close to perfect examples of the coen brother's genius.