The SRK Movie Fanatic Thread (REVIEWS, QUESTIONS, RANTS, STARS...ETC.) EVERYTHING!!!

[P. Gorath]

I thought Violent City was really bad...it has a good chase at the beginning but then it slows to a crawl and is like charles bronson and jill ireland take an italian vacation.

My friend was raving about the cottage the other night at a party so i added it

[Dirt Mc Girt]

i ended upw atching the cottage, little short but its pretty good mix between humor/horror

uk been killing it with the horror lately

[P. Gorath]

watched a lot this weekend...best of which was INSIDE...I had my doubts, but it was awesome. Reminded me a lot of an updated take on old school Argento (esp. tenebrae). It was all kinds of crazy with some good gore and really good cinematography. Frontiere(s) was good but Inside blew it away.

[HeaT]

i saw indiana 4, i dont think it was a good movie, but it was pretty entertaining...what was weird is it felt more comic like, as opposed to the other movies which felt real but unlikely...

i also saw prince caspian, which was pretty tight, good shit, lots of fight, some of the acting was pretty pretty bad but meh whatever...

im outi

Roberth

[ChairHome]

Watched "The Orphange". I liked it a lot. It was very suspenseful (yes, there were parts that I was scared to look at the screen cause I was freaked out) and it has a really good story, too.

[NG1313]

Saw Transformers. First half was enjoyable, though the yellow Chevrolet had some Herbie-personality going on. The main actor was great. I wish my car was like this... it's getting a bit old, and I wouldn't mind it transforming to a 2009 BMW M6, and then do it again every year. When they transformed into robots and talked about their problems I lost interest. The Optimus Prime trailer was awesome, though.

Saw Hot Fuzz also. Didn't follow the story too well, but it was a refreshing change of style. Timothy Dalton was great.

Oh yeah, I got a good laugh at the part where the two partners are having a serious, intimate talk with each other, and the main actor says something positive about his ex, and his partner says she sounds nice, then the main actor says something negative about her, and the partner says how she sounds like a cunt, both replies with the same exact face and tone. It's hilarious because he's in "soft, intimate listening-mode" and just replies with whatever the other guy wants to hear.

Also saw The Sixth Sense, finally, and thought it was really mediocre until the end where it turned out Bruce Willis was dead all along. Had that Silent Hill effect going on. I was gonna watch it a second time and see if there were clues and if things made any sense, but I didn't get a chance to... Anyway. I'm not sure if I'd call it a good movie or a bad movie with a good ending.

[Arsenal]

Also saw The Sixth Sense, finally, and thought it was really mediocre until the end where it turned out Bruce Willis was dead all along. Had that Silent Hill effect going on. I was gonna watch it a second time and see if there were clues and if things made any sense, but I didn't get a chance to... Anyway. I'm not sure if I'd call it a good movie or a bad movie with a good ending.

You have to put it in the context of what the late 90's horror/thriller/suspense genre looked like. In that context, it was refreshing (in comparison to it's genre competition) and brought back some almost Hitchcock-esque levels of storytelling. Nowadays, it's just another oh-look-never-saw-that-coming thriller.

[BunnyHead]

Chronicles Of Narnia

I will be seeing it for 2 reasons

1. Liked the first one
2. Ben Barnes is F.U.C.K.I.N.G. on fire
that man is too fine (see avatar)


Poor Sydney Pollack, I saw that on the news and it made me so sad
may he rest in peace:crybaby::crybaby::crybaby:

[SuicidalGrandpa]

I saw Forgetting Sarah Marshall over the weekend and.. I haven't laughed that hard since I saw Superbad for the first time. Hilarious stuff. :tup:

[EvilSamurai]

Sydney Pollack passes away (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obit_sydney_pollack)

RIP even though Out of Africa sucked. Brazil should have won Best Picture/Director/etc. that year.

[Satomiblood]

Is Leaving Las Vegas Nick Cage's best performance?

[Sheng-Long]

"Made of Honor" killed him.

[EvilSamurai]

Is Leaving Las Vegas Nick Cage's best performance?

His most Nick Cage like performance or his actual best acting? His best "Nicholas Cage" roles are The Wickerman, The Rock, Face/Off, and Con-Air. As for his best acting, I have no idea as I have never seen Leaving Las Vegas.

[Arsenal]

Leaving Las Vegas also featured the ever-adorable Elisabeth Shue, in perhaps her last performance before the age bug bit her.

[Satomiblood]

Shue is still hot.

[Arsenal]

Oh, she'd still get it with the quickness, but there's no denying that Father Time has had his way with her...

[Satomiblood]

I also love Kristy Swanson.

[Arsenal]

She needs to trim about 10-15 lbs (especially in the face), then she'd be up to her Buffy level status. Although, admittedly, her face/body fat could've been due to her pregnancy; I haven't seen any ultra-recent photos of her.

[P. Gorath]

cage is good in adaptation too...but valley girl is his best performance

[Dirt Mc Girt]

watched a lot this weekend...best of which was INSIDE...I had my doubts, but it was awesome. Reminded me a lot of an updated take on old school Argento (esp. tenebrae). It was all kinds of crazy with some good gore and really good cinematography. Frontiere(s) was good but Inside blew it away.

yea good movie, too bad its getting banned from a lot of stores

walmart and a couple smaller retailers pulled it for content

and now they're pulling teeth and supposedly walmart is just going to ban all of dimension extreme titles

pretty lame, especially since walmart carried both for only $9.99

[angryliberal]

this is why you NEVER shop at walmart. ever. EVER.

same goes for nic cage movies.

[Dirt Mc Girt]

I thought Violent City was really bad...it has a good chase at the beginning but then it slows to a crawl and is like charles bronson and jill ireland take an italian vacation.

My friend was raving about the cottage the other night at a party so i added it

dead on about violent city

the final scene was pretty good too in addition to the chase, but most of the movie dragged and was boring

there's an interview with the director on the blue underground release that is pretty interesting, but thats about it

i wonder if BU is in financial trouble, they're not releasing many first run movies anymore and mostly just re releases of their better selling titles



i usually don't shop at walmart, but its right next to home depot and i've been going there a lot so i drop in and pick up the cheap dvd's

90% of my dvd/blu-ray buying is through amazon or direct from the distributor if they have a website

[MiLky]

cage is good in adaptation too...but valley girl is his best performance

Don't forget Vampire's Kiss, another Cage classic.

[Dirt Mc Girt]

i prefer national treasure nicholas cage

epic movies right there

[Satomiblood]

I did like him in The Family Man.

[Dirt Mc Girt]

oh wait i forgot raising arizona

awesome movie

[EvilSamurai]

i prefer national treasure nicholas cage

epic movies right there
The only good thing about National Treasure is Diane Kruger.
oh wait i forgot raising arizona

awesome movie
That movie was awesome.

[angryliberal]

oh wait i forgot raising arizona

awesome movie

that's the only nic cage movie where he doesn't annoy me. i thought adptation was a great flick, but mr cage just ruins it for me...

[BunnyHead]

I saw Narnia last night so I'ma give my review
...but there are minor spoilers so if u don't wanna know then do not and I repeat DO NOT read the following

It was very cute, a major upgrade from the first I must say and the kings and queens grew up to be very handsome and beautiful. I actually liked this story better and it was a lil more action packed and more of my taste. Ben Barnes as Prince Caspian, I doubt anyone could have pulled this off better than him, he pulled off the spanish accent so well and he was quite the charmer lol, he played such a good warrior I couldnt believe what I was seeing, he was kicking ass and not looking foolish. Peter, he was being quite the asshole at times but it was only for the best and he kicked ass at the end. The lil romance between Caspian and Susan kinda annoyed me because she didnt seem convincing to me.
The humor was too much lol, the lil mice and the dwarfs were too cute for words. It was funny because the White Witch even had a cameo lol. There are also some tearjerker moments because of the sacrfices that were made. Overall I loved it, liked it better than the first, it showed so much maturity in the characters I give it a 4.5 out of 5.

and one more thing, Ben Barnes is probably one of the most fucking incredibly handsome men walking this earth right now! I warn the males, he might turn u gay for 3 seconds because he is that type hotness.

I'm wondering what movie I should see next..I'm going to see Speed Racer one more time tonight cuz I'm tryna break a record

[P. Gorath]

http://www.blue-underground.com/blu-ray.php

[Dirt Mc Girt]

yea i saw that yesterday and got pretty excited

they look pretty good in the trailer. i remember my high school teacher showing us the final countdown in class and never remembered what it was called, so can't wait to grab that.

sadly i don't think BU has the rights to susperia now, weinstein does

of the 6 on the bottom i'll prolly pick up all except fire and ice, didn't really like that

[P. Gorath]

weinstein has remake rights...dunno about home distrib

vigilante is a classic


I'm watching An American Haunting right now...it blows. Sutherland is always good for cheese though.

[Dirt Mc Girt]

an american haunting was pretty bad

i imported the hd dvd, looks good but the story man

fangoria was hyping it pretty good too for a while

the bloody panty scene was pretty funny, have no idea why

overacted

[yah yaahh b*tch!]

Dude . .the strangers was dumb.

And not dumb because of dialogue, plot or anything like that . .dumb because the fucking MINUTE instinct tells you to get outta there, they STEREOTYPICALLY stay until its far too late to get away.

Ugh. This genre is really beginning to get a little dry.

[SuicidalGrandpa]

Wait were people saying they actually like Nicholas Cage? What a trash actor...

[RagingStormX]

Check out Oldboy or Sympathy for Lady Vengeance, those are pimp foriegn flicks.

[goodm0urning]

His other good movies that have been mentioned aside, Nic Cage is also good in Bringing Out the Dead. The rest of his stuff I could take or leave... mostly leave.

[Satomiblood]

Wait were people saying they actually like Nicholas Cage? What a trash actor...

I don't really like him much, but he has delivered in some movies.

[P. Gorath]

there was a preview for Hellboy 2 in front of the strangers. I liked (didnt love) the first one (didnt feel the need to see it more than once) and I dont follow the comics and so havent given a crap about the sequel up to this point but man, that trailer kicked some fucking ass. It looked like what a D&D movie should be, like a sequel to Legend or something. Def looking forward to it now.

[EvilSamurai]

^
Hellboy 2 looks awesome. Hopefully it does not get released in competition with The Dark Knight which would make it fail.

I just watched Charlie Wilson's War and Rambo 4. Charlie Wilson's War was good but I didn't like Julia Roberts at all in it. Rambo 4 had its moments but the woman was annoying.

[Dirt Mc Girt]

i saw The Incredible Hulk randomly today

I was in NYC and walking past a theater and they were like ANYONE WANT TO SEE INCREDIBLE HULK. The guy said Edward Norton was going to be there to answer questions after but he never showed up so instead the 2nd (he was actually the third unit but they don't use that term for some reason) unit director talked to us for a little. Plus they made us fill out a survey that took forever at the end and they wanted complete sentences not just rate this on a scale from 1 to 5.

The movie was kind of blah, but I'm not a big comic book movie guy (I do like comic books, but not marvel/dc superhero super popular stuff they've been coming out with for the past couple of years, i like comic book movies like Darkman - tho i think this came out the same time as the movie, Road to Perdition, Howard the Duck, Timecop, etc.). The action scenes were pretty cool, but I actually preferred the first one because it had an actual story. The Hulk looked pretty neat though, but I think I'm at a point in my life where I'm not amazed by good CGI anymore if its not backed by a good story and this one didn't have a good story.

Think I'm becoming a film "snob" because I've completely given up on most USA mainstream movies and now I'm just straight to DVD and foreign films.

[Dirt Mc Girt]

oh yea also, has tobe hooper ever directed a good movie since salem's lot (in 1979)??

i watched the toolbox murderers remake recently and i was thinking about it and i don't think he has

poltergeist shouldn't count since apparently speilberg directed most of it

guy has made a career off of one good movie

[HyperGear]

I just watched this French movie called Inside
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ajq9VwfU_Ss - trailer

This movie is fucked up with tons of gore, almost as worse as Hostel and Saw series.

[P. Gorath]

toolbox murders was pretty horrible...but the original is basically a piece of shit too (although at least in a grimey grindhouse way). I always liked Invaders From Mars when I was a kid...

I watched The Cottage last night...very enjoyable, better than Shaun of the Dead in some respects. Wish they would have had a little more budget for the gore stuff and monster makeup, and the ending left a little to be desired but otherwise very solid.

Hypergear - read the last 3 pages of this thread...we have been talking about INSIDE forever...and how can you say ALMOST as worse as Hostel? Hostel 1 and 2 had almost no gore, hell put all 6 of those movies together and you probably still dont reach the splatter quotient of Inside.

[HeaT]

there was a preview for Hellboy 2 in front of the strangers. I liked (didnt love) the first one (didnt feel the need to see it more than once) and I dont follow the comics and so havent given a crap about the sequel up to this point but man, that trailer kicked some fucking ass. It looked like what a D&D movie should be, like a sequel to Legend or something. Def looking forward to it now.

ya i feel the same, the first trailer i did not really care for, but the 2nd trailer made me go aight, ill see this and i didnt even particularly care for the 1st movie...

im outi

Roberth

[Dirt Mc Girt]

lost boys 2 coming to blu ray!!!!

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Warner/Disc_Announcements/Lost_Boys:_The_Tribe_to_Bite_Into_Blu-ray_this_Summer/1785

[BunnyHead]

lost boys 2 coming to blu ray!!!!

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Warner/Disc_Announcements/Lost_Boys:_The_Tribe_to_Bite_Into_Blu-ray_this_Summer/1785

Oh Lawd!
Lost Boys is one of my favorite movies of all time so I hope this is good, Billy Wirth was the fucking hottest guy in that movie

speaking of vampires, anyone interested in that Twilight movie?
I never read the books...but it looks cool

[angryliberal]

oh yea also, has tobe hooper ever directed a good movie since salem's lot (in 1979)??

guy has made a career off of one good movie

the way this reads, it's like you are sayign salem's lot is the only good movie tobe hooper made...which i know you can't eblieve...now since salem's lot? i dunno...i agree you can't count poltergesit since it is opbviously a speilberg film...

[Dirt Mc Girt]

the way this reads, it's like you are sayign salem's lot is the only good movie tobe hooper made...which i know you can't eblieve...now since salem's lot? i dunno...i agree you can't count poltergesit since it is opbviously a speilberg film...

oh wasn't TCSM before Salem's Lot?

i thought those were his only two good movies, but yea i meant since he made salem's lot he hasn't made anything good not that salems lot was his only good thing

though i did like his segment in Body Bags,his episode of "Taken", his episode of Tales from the Crypt, and his episode of Freddy's nightmare


maybe he's better as a TV director where he probably has less freedom

[angryliberal]

yeah, his body of work outside of tcm is pretty unknown to me...i mean, i love poltergeist, but we all know who really made that...plus, as i've stated before, i am not the best person to judge the horror genre...i'm not a huge fan of it...

[HyperGear]

Hypergear - read the last 3 pages of this thread...we have been talking about INSIDE forever...and how can you say ALMOST as worse as Hostel? Hostel 1 and 2 had almost no gore, hell put all 6 of those movies together and you probably still dont reach the splatter quotient of Inside.

Yea I meant to say how much gore that movie had beyond belief. Not sure why I said "almost". Well gonna go checkout Frontier(s), heard is not as bloody as INSIDE but still worth the watch.

[Dirt Mc Girt]

frontier(s) wasn't that great IMO. i ended up seeing it after everyone in the hitman special features praised it


awesome they're bringing lost boys 1 too

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=67910

Warner Home Video have announced the US Blu-ray Disc release of The Lost Boys on 29th July 2008 priced at $28.99 SRP. Joel Schumacher's vampire cult classic starring Kiefer Sutherland, Jason Patric, Corey Haim and Corey Feldman comes to Blu-ray alongside the new film Lost Boys: The Tribe.

Extras are presented in standard definition. Features include:

* 1080P 2.40:1 Widescreen
* English DD5.1 and Dolby True HD 5.1
* French 2.0, Spanish (Both Castilian 2.0 and Latin 1.0), German 2.0 and Italian 2.0
* English, French, Spanish, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, German, Italian, Japanese, Norwegian, Portuguese and Swedish subtitles (Movie and select Bonus Material)
* Commentary by director Joel Schumacher
* The Lost Boys: A Retrospective with Joel Schumacher, Richard Donner, Keifer Sutherland, Jami Gertz, Corey Feldman, Corey Haim, Jamison Newlander, Greg Cannom, Edward Herrmann and Michael Chapman
* Inside the Vampire’s Cave 4 Featurettes
* Vamping Out: The Undead Creations of Greg Cannom, Oscar® winning make-up artist
* The Vampire’s Photo Gallery
* The Return of Sam and the Frog Brothers: The 2 Coreys and Jamison Newlander – Multiangle Video Commentary
* The Lost Scenes - Deleted scenes
* A World of Vampires - Interactive ancient map of the world and the vampires that inhabit it
* Lost In the Shadows by Lou Gramm, Music Video
* Theatrical trailer

[Arsenal]

This may be against the grain, but do any of you prefer not to have 1,001 behind-the-scenes / making-of featurettes of movies? Like, it sorta takes some of the "magic" away from the illusion of this fictional world, etc... Sorta like how once you learn how a magic trick is performed, it just isn't as exciting anymore...

[Dirt Mc Girt]

This may be against the grain, but do any of you prefer not to have 1,001 behind-the-scenes / making-of featurettes of movies? Like, it sorta takes some of the "magic" away from the illusion of this fictional world, etc... Sorta like how once you learn how a magic trick is performed, it just isn't as exciting anymore...

dunno you don't have to watch them, though its funny to watch the deleted scenes where they're walking in front of a green screen because they never did the cgi for it

i'm against boring special features like oh this (director/actor/producer) is so great to work with like everyone is

i wish there was more technical ones, most of the time you have to listen to the directors commentary to get that

like if you ever seen sunshine, i always thought they made pinbacker blurry in post production, but they did it right there with 2 cameras and a mirror - that was pretty cool cause now i can recreate it

[Geese Pants]

This may be against the grain, but do any of you prefer not to have 1,001 behind-the-scenes / making-of featurettes of movies? Like, it sorta takes some of the "magic" away from the illusion of this fictional world, etc... Sorta like how once you learn how a magic trick is performed, it just isn't as exciting anymore...

Actually.........it's one of the few things I prefer in a DVD.

I like to know how the movie was brought to life as told by the people who were involved. For me..........it makes me appreciate the movie more.

[P. Gorath]

my favorite dvd extra is retrospectives/short docs that gather the cast/director together from the older movies. The perspective of time is interesting...thats why I dont like special features on new dvds that much. Sig do you have The Fly dvd? The documentary on there is like 3 hours long

[Dirt Mc Girt]

Yea I saw that one, did you? I thought it was a little too long, maybe they could of cut 30 minutes off, plus more Cronenberg would of been nice. His interviews are part of the other special features, nothing new for the documentary. I was pretty sad Eastern Promises had no documentary on it. His episode of Friday the 13th was on TV today too, best one of the series IMO.

The blade runner 3 hour documentary is still the best though, time flew by with that one and I wanted to know more after it.

Patton has a 4 hour documentary, but I think thats different since its really a historical documentary, not a making of

After Blade Runner, the best documentary making of I've seen was on A History of Violence or The Matrix really long one. Or maybe some of the View Askew titles, Smith puts a lot of effort into those - though they never did one for Dogma or Chasing Amy I think

[goodm0urning]

This may be against the grain, but do any of you prefer not to have 1,001 behind-the-scenes / making-of featurettes of movies? Like, it sorta takes some of the "magic" away from the illusion of this fictional world, etc... Sorta like how once you learn how a magic trick is performed, it just isn't as exciting anymore...On magic tricks:

You know it's not real. I find there's much more to appreciate in observing the craft it takes to pull off a visually convincing illusion than in the cheap thrill of pretending to be fooled. See Penn & Teller for further reference.

On featurettes:

Being a dropout film student and a lover of movies in general, I enjoy this stuff. I don't feel it cheapens the experience, and in some ways, the appreciation of the craft enhances the film. You can enjoy it on several more levels.

[HeaT]

i tried to watch the making of the movies and the extras the dvds have but they are so horrible the ones that ive seen that i have given up hope and just havent watch any for like years now...

im outi

Roberth

[P. Gorath]

speaking of jeff goldblum...why is Mr. Frost not on dvd??

[Satomiblood]

I bought the Alien Quadrilogy set 4 years ago and while the only movies that actually matter are the original two, I also got it for the extensive bonus features.

[Dirt Mc Girt]

the company who owns the video rights for Mr. Frost in the US (and most of the world) went out of business. they only had the rights to about 10 movies and no one purchased them. i'd buy it if i could get it for cheap/knew who to contact

i heard there's an australian dvd release, but i can't find it anywhere to replace my vhs

[Shaft Agent]

I bought the Alien Quadrilogy set 4 years ago and while the only movies that actually matter are the original two, I also got it for the extensive bonus features.i bought the AQ also. both versions of Alien: Ressurection and some of the bonus feature DVDs don't play in any DVD player. i thought it was just bad luck, but i found out that lots of people got screwed over, and Fox new about it. they didn't take the boxset off the shelves, they just marked them down. :bluu: if you haven't before, check your discs.

[Dirt Mc Girt]

Here's the list of BU first 9 blu-ray titles, no release dates/pricing yet

The nine titles confirmed to be part of Blue Underground's initial Blu-ray wave include: 'The Final Countdown,' 'The Bird With The Crystal Plumage,' 'The Stendhal Syndrome,' 'Maniac (1980),' 'Vigilante (1983),' 'Fire & Ice,' 'Dead & Buried,' 'Two Evil Eyes,' and 'Uncle Sam: I Want You... Dead!'

lot of dario and the guy who wrote aliens wrote dead&buried

[SuicidalGrandpa]

This may be against the grain, but do any of you prefer not to have 1,001 behind-the-scenes / making-of featurettes of movies? Like, it sorta takes some of the "magic" away from the illusion of this fictional world, etc... Sorta like how once you learn how a magic trick is performed, it just isn't as exciting anymore...

Actually, that's my favorite part. I'd love to be in the movie bizz in the future, so the "Making of" documentaries and such are really interesting for me.

[Arsenal]

Hmm, I guess I'm an anamoly then, because I try to avoid the special features at all costs. The only special features I'll watch is interwoven deleted scenes, alternate endings, and gag reels. But making-of features and technical commentary I leave alone.

[Dirt Mc Girt]

gag reels? i can't stand those

its always people laughing and i have no idea why haha

damn today has gotten me very erect, back to the future blu ray now

'Back to the Future' fans got a sneak peek this past weekend at an apparently in-the-works Blu-ray release of the '80s favorite.

As first reported by the fansite BTTF.com, 'Future' producer Bob Gale surprised fans at a special screening near Orlando with a new digital remaster of the flick, which he said had been produced for an eventual release on Blu-ray.

"What you're going to be seeing today is the digital master for the upcoming high-definition Blu-ray version of 'Back to the Future,'" Gale told the crowd. "I don't know when it's coming out yet, but I was involved in the mastering of this tape, so I can tell you that it looks absolutely beautiful!"

Gale also spoke to potential supplemental features on a Blu-ray version of the trilogy, saying only that never-before-seen bonus materials may appear, though he stopped short of offering any specifics

At press time Universal had not confirmed nor denied plans for a 'Future' release on Blu-ray, but as always we'll keep you updated as any official news comes in.

my favorite cheesy movie trilogy + BU + lost boys 1/2

time to rub one out over it

oh yea if no one has it by now, the nightmare on elm st collection (all 7 movies + bonus disk) is 27.99 at amazon today

[Satomiblood]

i bought the AQ also. both versions of Alien: Ressurection and some of the bonus feature DVDs don't play in any DVD player. i thought it was just bad luck, but i found out that lots of people got screwed over, and Fox new about it. they didn't take the boxset off the shelves, they just marked them down. :bluu: if you haven't before, check your discs.

I think all the discs on mine work.

[angryliberal]

i have the aq, but i've never put in my A:r disk...just 1 and 2...

[Arsenal]

i have the aq, but i've never put in my A:r disk...just 1 and 2...

Don't want to taint your DVD player with such trash? I feel you...

[P. Gorath]

I liked A:R...

[Satomiblood]

Resurrection was at least better than 3.

[Arsenal]

Alien 3 and Resurrection were such major steps back from their predecessors that it was difficult for me to accept both films as canon.

[angryliberal]

hey, i enjoy 3...not because it's good compared to the rest of the series, because i'm a david fincher fan. i also enjoy the makers of 4, i just didn't like the direction it went in...

[Satomiblood]

But I did enjoy that Terminator 3.

[Ghostal]

Just watched He Was A Quiet Man.
Wow, that was actually a really enjoyable flick.
Now time for more of dat Rambo.

[Arsenal]

I always thought chestbursters were organic foreign objects that occupied the host's chest cavity.

[Dirt Mc Girt]

i know this is blasphemy, but i never seen any alien movie :(

maybe someday

[HeaT]

Resurrection was at least better than 3.

i disagree...

3 was tight...i actually thought it was good, just not nearly as good as 1 or 2...it had a really good concept just wasnt pulled off well...

im outi

Roberth

[angryliberal]

i know this is blasphemy, but i never seen any alien movie :(

maybe someday

you should watch 1 and 2. 1 because it is simply the best mixture of sci-fi and horror ever, and 2 because it's so much win.

[P. Gorath]

in terms of canon i prefer ignoring 3 and 4 and going with the comic books that take place after part 2

[Arsenal]

in terms of canon i prefer ignoring 3 and 4 and going with the comic books that take place after part 2

This is the route I take as well.

[angryliberal]

i don't read comics...i just basically look at films 3 and 4 as different takes on the central storyline...but the whole canon vs non-canon thing has never bugged me...

[Satomiblood]

i don't read comics...i just basically look at films 3 and 4 as different takes on the central storyline...but the whole canon vs non-canon thing has never bugged me...

Same here.

[Geese Pants]

Just saw 1/2 of Walk Hard.............so ridiculous.
I want my Hour back......:sad:

[angryliberal]

walk hard was enjoyable compared to strange wilderness. strange wilderness may actually be even worse than freddie got fingered...

[BunnyHead]

Not sure if this was posted
but we are getting a U.S. version of Death Note live action

[Dirt Mc Girt]

walk hard was enjoyable compared to strange wilderness. strange wilderness may actually be even worse than freddie got fingered...

oh damn i forgot about that movie strange wilderness

i wanted to see it but i thought it would make me hate Steve Zahn again after he did so much to get me to like him in Rescue Dawn

now i have to see it, Freddy Got Fingered is one of those movies that is so stupid I can't help myself from not liking it

[MiLky]

walk hard was enjoyable compared to strange wilderness. strange wilderness may actually be even worse than freddie got fingered...

The kid in freddie got fingered that kept getting fucked up was funnier than all of strange wilderness. So yeah, freddie got fingered wins that war.

[angryliberal]

to me, there is nothing redeemable about freddy got fingered...i think i would rather watch a nicholas cage marathon than watch that movie again. someone needs to go back in time and stop tom green before he is born and push his mom down a long flight of stairs......

[Sheng-Long]

^^The restaurant scene was hilarious. Plus Rip Torn (either the greatest name or the gayest porn name for an actor ever) was fantastic as the father.

Strange Wilderness was just a vulgar display of how much mileage being friends with Sandler gives you in terms of getting movies made.

Walk Hard was awesome! It was pretty accurate in capturing the spirit of the past century of musical history on one character while poking fun at music/musicians and the biopics that showcase them. Some critics say that the flashbacks are "uneven" (lol. Most reviews use this word to describe this movie. Move over "pacing", there's a new buzzword in the film critic lexicon.) Despite this and the wackiness of his life story, which could be attributed to the side-effects of taking all those drugs, Dewey's life story comes across sincere and his pondering of why is he even being honored in the final scene somewhat profound when he punctuates it with an appropriate song.

[Satomiblood]

Anyone here ever see that horror movie Pin?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095871/

[R | C]

I just saw The Strangers last night. :tdown:
I thought it was really boring - sucks 'cause I went in thinking it was gonna be at least partially interesting.

Maybe I should've just stayed in and rented The Eye (or is that a waste too?) ?

[Arsenal]

Original Asian version > Jessica Alba trash. Try to get the original version if possible.

[goodm0urning]

Some critics say that the flashbacks are "uneven" (lol. Most reviews use this word to describe this movie. Move over "pacing", there's a new buzzword in the film critic lexicon.)Neither "pacing" nor "uneven" are buzzwords. There are plenty of reasons to lament the current state of film criticism, but the proper contextual usage of basic storytelling terms is not one of them.

[Arsenal]

Saw "The Good Shepard". I thought it was pretty good, even though it was, according to actual CIA officials, grossly inaccurate.

[P. Gorath]

you are the first one i know who didnt fall asleep during Good Shepard

[Arsenal]

Yeah, it was hella long (almost 3hrs), but I found it pretty interesting; WWII -> Cold War era is pertty interesting in terms of US policy and intel.

[HeaT]

you are the first one i know who didnt fall asleep during Good Shepard

what??? hahaha i didnt fall asleep neither did anyone i know who saw it...i thought that movie was amazing...really well done imo...

im outi

Roberth

[Sheng-Long]

Neither "pacing" nor "uneven" are buzzwords. There are plenty of reasons to lament the current state of film criticism, but the proper contextual usage of basic storytelling terms is not one of them.

They are when its thrown around in place of actual critical analysis. Whenever "critics" find a movie that is slowpaced they say it has "pacing problems" never mind the fact that the movie could be building up into something (but this fact never gets brought up). Google "No Country for Old Men" + "pacing problems" and see how many people do that.

I'd love to read a review that uses both "pacing" and "uneven" accurately and fairly to describe a movie, instead of buzzwords thrown around to sound like they really broke the movie down. Even among the rottentomatoes Top Critics, some are either too lazy to write or too self-obsessed that they can't place the movie in context outside of their prejudice for 2 hours while they write a summary *cough* Salon.com's Andrew O'Hehir *cough*

EDIT:
My nominee for WORST ACTOR EVER and contender to Michael Rappaport's throne for "Worst Actor underserving of high profile work he gets" aka "Actor with the greatest agent in history" category:

http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0935921/

[goodm0urning]

Google "No Country for Old Men" + "pacing problems" and see how many people do that. Thus proving that there are several critics who wrote that No Country for Old Men has pacing problems. Bravo.

I'd love to read a review that uses both "pacing" and "uneven" accurately and fairly to describe a movie, instead of buzzwords thrown around to sound like they really broke the movie down. Even among the rottentomatoes Top Critics, some are either too lazy to write or too self-obsessed that they can't place the movie in context outside of their prejudice for 2 hours while they write a summary *cough* Salon.com's Andrew O'Hehir *cough*Why complain about film reviewers who aren't even real critics in the first place? David Denby is a film critic. Roger Ebert is a film critic. Paul Schrader is (was) a film critic. People like Andrew O'Hehir get put on film reviews after the editors are impressed with their writing in the astrology and celebrity birthday columns.

This, of course, does not invalidate their opinions on the pacing of NCfOM. You know, just sayin'.

[Kusanagi02]

So yeah is anybody else gonna see Kung Fu Panda this Friday?

Looks like another good one from Dreamworks.

[P. Gorath]

sweet lordy I can't stand David Denby

[goodm0urning]

sweet lordy I can't stand David DenbyIs it because he bores you or because you disagree with him too often for your liking?

[P. Gorath]

because I disagree with his opinion and reasoning too often, because I don't like his face, because he is a moron (as illustrated in American Sucker), and because whatever talent he does have pales greatly in comparison to Anthony Lane

[goodm0urning]

because I disagree with his opinion and reasoning too often, because I don't like his face, because he is a moron (as illustrated in American Sucker), and because whatever talent he does have pales greatly in comparison to Anthony LaneAnthony Lane is a bit of a douchebag. However, agreed re. Denby's face, which is an exquisite example of the horrors that the human genome is capable of.

[BisonSFIV]

There is a NEW MOVIE called Fahrooze listed on Stephen Chow's wikipedia page. No info after a google search. Any ideas what this is movie is?

EDIT: Someone negative repped me for this post...

[Dirt Mc Girt]

man i didn't know there was such a big 2nd hand market for laserdisc's

i was looking to get rid of some of mine since i'm running out of room in my theater so i offered them for free on a msg board and got like 200 pm's calling me an idiot cause i have some rare ones. armageddon, int he name of the father w/ddl, plesantville, hellraiser signed by barker, robinson caroso on mars, scream unrated, and a bunch of criterions. i still got dawn of the dead laserdisc sealed too

now i probably won't sell them and instead just let them collect dust

[VangardB]

Just watched Be Kind Rewind....it was excellent!

[Dirt Mc Girt]

oh doesn't it not come out until the 10th of june

today is only the 5th

[angryliberal]

how could you possibly not know those were worth money? what i mean is you seem to have a good knowledge of movie collectables...

[Rhio2k]

So yeah is anybody else gonna see Kung Fu Panda this Friday?

Looks like another good one from Dreamworks.

Yo. I've even got clips on my youtube account (http://youtube.com/user/Rhio2k). This movie is gonna be good.

[goodm0urning]

This is pretty interesting: the evolution of movie credits. (http://filmonic.com/coolness-evolution-movie-credits)

[Dirt Mc Girt]

is that really fair to compare the two?

LOTR had tons of CGI artists working on the movie

[Dirt Mc Girt]

how could you possibly not know those were worth money? what i mean is you seem to have a good knowledge of movie collectables...

i didn't know people still collected laser discs

i usually just buy i never sell [dont think i ever sold any DVD, VHS, or Blu Ray/HD DVD i owned] so i don't pay attention to the value of things. plus i don't really care about my collection like other people. most of them end up in the basement stacked up after i watch them

and when i buy i just buy on release day 90% of the time

[goodm0urning]

is that really fair to compare the two?

LOTR had tons of CGI artists working on the movieNear as I can figure, fairness isn't an issue when the image is being presented purely for what it is, rather than being used as evidence in an argument.

[Dirt Mc Girt]

i mean fairness in the sense, why did they pick the movie that probably has the most people ever working on it when they just picked movies from the other times that had standard amount of people working on it

did casablanca use the biggest crew in 1942 or was there a movie that had a bigger crew?

should of looked at a more generic studio movie instead of one of the most expensive movies ever


oh btw, how did machine girl survive the drill bra?????

[P. Gorath]

watched a heath ledger/abbie cornish movie called Candy last night. Cornish has really nice tits. This was probably the bazillionth movie I've seen about heroin addicts and it didnt do anything new but the acting made it very compelling and I ended up liking it a lot more than I probably should have.

[goodm0urning]

i mean fairness in the sense, why did they pick the movie that probably has the most people ever working on it when they just picked movies from the other times that had standard amount of people working on it

did casablanca use the biggest crew in 1942 or was there a movie that had a bigger crew?

should of looked at a more generic studio movie instead of one of the most expensive movies everFrom the look of it, they're selecting prominent big-budget movies that are fairly representative of their respective eras. Perhaps they're not the biggest budget movies or the most prominent, but since this picture is using heuristics to make its point (which isn't necessarily invalid for doing so), there's not much use in arguing for the inclusion of more choices for better representation.

[Kusanagi02]

Yo. I've even got clips on my youtube account (http://youtube.com/user/Rhio2k). This movie is gonna be good.

Saw the it last night and man this movie was all sorts of awesome and it was funny. I think why this movie is so good is because it doesn't beat you over the head with the pop culture references like Dreamworks other movies. This movie is self contained in its world.

Got one word for everyone here:

SKIDOOSH!!!

[P. Gorath]

I could go the rest of my life without watching another jack black movie, personally.

[angryliberal]

oh btw, how did machine girl survive the drill bra?????

as soon as you find out, please let me know...

[ckrazy]

So yeah is anybody else gonna see Kung Fu Panda this Friday?

Looks like another good one from Dreamworks.

it been leaked out already before the release :rofl:

I really liked it though one of the better movies from Dreamworks.

[Dirt Mc Girt]

it came out on fri

how did zohan make 40 million??

why does adam sandler just print money with movies that sound so stupid

[goodm0urning]

I could go the rest of my life without watching another jack black movie, personally.Ditto. Same goes for Sandler.

[P. Gorath]

except tropic thunder...i will be seeing that

[MiLky]

except tropic thunder...i will be seeing that

I consider Tropic Thunder the next Robert Downey Jr. movie.

[HeaT]

i saw "the fall" the other night...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6j-vg8uNcE

pretty tight movie, took 4 years to film, filmed in 28 countries, no GC...worth seeing just for the imagery itself imo...

im outi

Roberth

[angryliberal]

i saw "the fall" the other night...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6j-vg8uNcE

pretty tight movie, took 4 years to film, filmed in 28 countries, no GC...worth seeing just for the imagery itself imo...

im outi

Roberth

i've seena few ads for this...looks like something to enjoy while on hallucinagens(sp?)...

[Satomiblood]

it came out on fri

how did zohan make 40 million??

why does adam sandler just print money with movies that sound so stupid

Because people are dumb.

Anyway, I watched Into the Wild over the weekend. I thoroughly enjoyed it. What are everyone's thoughts? I really like Emile Hirsch btw.

[Dirt Mc Girt]

well i did cry during now pronounce you chuck and larry because it was a very moving movie

but yea, i guess college kids still love sandler for some reason

[Dirt Mc Girt]

oh yea and how did it have a 90 million dollar budget???

wonder how much he must get paid for these movies now

how does a comedy cost 90 million??

[Satomiblood]

He's a funny guy, don't get me wrong, but it's gotten old. My personal favorite of his is Punk-Drunk Love.

[P. Gorath]

taped some james van der beek horror movie called The Plague off of showtime, havent watched it yet.

everyone go see Bigger Stronger Faster

[P. Gorath]

john carpenter in-person festival at the aero this weekend. tonight its the thing/the fog with Q&A between the two, tomorrow night its escape from NY/LA, sunday its halloween/christine, and wednesday its big trouble/precinct 13

i was hoping for prince of darkness/ghosts of mars

[VangardB]

If you ever get a chance pleas watch "In Bruges". Me and my brother watched it and we were very pleased!

[Dirt Mc Girt]

i bet the twist in the new m night movie is

THERE IS NO TWIST

!!!!!!!!

[angryliberal]

the twist is that it suck donkey balls...the funny part is, he's now coming out and claiming he meant it to be shitty. ok, he said "fun b-movie" but still...

but i'm biased, i didn't like a single one of his films...

[Dirt Mc Girt]

i thought unbreakable was alright

never seen sixth sense, hated signs, village, and lady in the water

going on a date tonight though and its a choice between the hulk which i already seen and hated or m night's movie so i guess i'm going with m night.

so much crap out right now

[goodm0urning]

Yeah, Unbreakable is the one M. Night Shyamalamadingdong movie that doesn't suck, even though the twist portion of the film feels shoehorned in.

[P. Gorath]

Dirt - take her to Mother of Tears

[angryliberal]

unbreakable, really?! god, i almost walked out half way through...i really hate m nights movies...and unbreakable is probably tops that list of most hated...

[Dirt Mc Girt]

i don't think a dario movie ever opened within 100 miles of where i live so doubt it with mother of tears.

these are the only movies playing at the theaters within 50 mile radius of my house. i'd invite her over but my cat is limping around cause he got beat up when he went outside and i don't want her to think i beat my cat. plus i've had problems getting girls i met on myspace to leave my house and not touch my stuff and ask me questions about where i got this and where i got that, when i want them to. they just seem to want to sit here all night even if we're not having sex. if we had sex i don't mind them staying an extra hour, but i don't want them to sit here until 4am with no sex on a first date talking about nothing. if she's interesting yea i'll take her home, but i gave up on bringing girls i don't know over my house.

plus i live in the woods kind of, really rural area and 3 times they're like i'm scared to drive with no lights, can i stay over, and like try to move in or something before i have to be like ok well i have to go, want to follow me out. i seem to find the really clingy girls who don't put out instead of the whores who just want to fuck and move on.

The Happening
Incredible Hulk (seen it)
Indiana Jones (don't carE)
Iron Man (don't care)
Kung Fu Panda (hate cartoon movies)
Sarkar Raj (who knows)
Sex and the City (no thanks)
The Strangers (will wait for DVD, she doesn't like scary movies)
Zohan (DVD or HBO)
Summer (Indian, never heard of it)
Mere Baap Pahle Aap (???)

[SRKev]

unbreakable, really?! god, i almost walked out half way through...i really hate m nights movies...and unbreakable is probably tops that list of most hated...

Unbreakable was actually supposed to be a trilogy, that's why the first movie felt a bit "lacking." I enjoyed it because I knew it had 2 more movies on the horizon, but since nothing has appeared so far, I hate M. Night Slamadong's guts. Oh, and the twist for his new movie is the weakest of them all.

[Dirt Mc Girt]

damn who knows what happens in the happening

bitch kept talking through the movie so after about 20 mins i said i was going to go get some popcorn and just left her there

good thing she drove herself or who knows how'd she get home

the first 20 mins were good though :tup:

[Luciano Leone]

Man..

I love Night's movies.

[P. Gorath]

M. Night lovers unite!

[maelstrom218]

Alright, this is a random question, but I've been wondering this for a while. . .why the heck is there so much hate for the Bryan Singer version of Superman? I've never seen the Donner original, but I actually liked the Singer's Superman as it was.

I mean, yes, the kid didn't need to be in there, and the kryptonite in Superman's face as he lifted the island into space was a huge plot hole, but in general the movie was pretty good. Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor was decent, the action was decent, seeing Superman as the unflappable pillar of strength and integrity was decent since it's true to the comics.

So why all the hate?

[goodm0urning]

Alright, this is a random question, but I've been wondering this for a while. . .why the heck is there so much hate for the Bryan Singer version of Superman? I've never seen the Donner original, but I actually liked the Singer's Superman as it was.

I mean, yes, the kid didn't need to be in there, and the kryptonite in Superman's face as he lifted the island into space was a huge plot hole, but in general the movie was pretty good. Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor was decent, the action was decent, seeing Superman as the unflappable pillar of strength and integrity was decent since it's true to the comics.

So why all the hate?He doesn't punch anybody. People who go to see superhero movies don't actually want classic heroism, psychology, and romance. They want to see punching. That's pretty much what it boils down to.

[P. Gorath]

that and a shitty script, horrible casting, bad special fx, pompous hack director, etc

[AdverseSolutions]

folks i need a movie to watch with an intelligent woman that i can dl DVD quality on torrent

any help?

[P. Gorath]

Irreversible...it's french

[AdverseSolutions]

preferably romantic homey...thanks for the suggestion though

edit: yeah man i'm not trying to see a movie with a rape scene on the second date thx

[SuicidalGrandpa]

He doesn't punch anybody. People who go to see superhero movies don't actually want classic heroism, psychology, and romance. They want to see punching. That's pretty much what it boils down to.

He's Superman. Of course he punches things. If he didn't, his comics wouldn't still be around. It made for a pretty boring film, in any case.

[SNAAAAKE]

watching blackhawkdown again..now on BLURAY :pray: this has to be the best/epicest "war movie" ever..


hulk was pretty average..think ironman set the bar too high for superhero movies

[goodm0urning]

He's Superman. Of course he punches things. If he didn't, his comics wouldn't still be around. It made for a pretty boring film, in any case."He's Superman. Of course he punches things." Bullshit. The best of Superman's stuff almost invariably tends to be low on physical violence and heavy on the more fantastical stuff.

Incidentally, his comics are currently on life support because DC's people have no idea how to write him. But at least he punches stuff in them, right?

[SuicidalGrandpa]

"He's Superman. Of course he punches things." Bullshit. The best of Superman's stuff almost invariably tends to be low on physical violence and heavy on the more fantastical stuff.

Incidentally, his comics are currently on life support because DC's people have no idea how to write him. But at least he punches stuff in them, right?

No. As an avid comic reader, I find the Superman comics incredibly boring, even with the punching. The movie was exactly the same, except without the punching and oh boy was it boring. I agree that I enjoy the fantastical elements to Superman, and also enjoy his roles in various super teams, but we're talking about a movie here, not a 5, 6 or 7 part story arc with lots of background lore and history.

I was a huge fan of Jarhead because it took a look at the other side (mental) of warfare instead of combat, but Superman doesn't have this same "personal" depth in the film, so it comes off as stale rather than interesting.

[scum gale 88]

I was wondering, why doesnt Disney do anything new with Mickey Mouse or any of its established characters?

was House of Mouse it?
instead of focusing on direct to video sequels of films that shouldnt have sequels they should focus on their mascot characters. Donald Duck ftw.
this wasnt really movie related but it might as well be.

[goodm0urning]

I don't think that the superhero genre, much less Superman, must necessarily include punching. The genre is fertile ground for many kinds of storytelling and action is only one of them.

I think the fact that so many people insist on boxing superheroes in like that are why we have so many bad superhero movies, not to mention why superhero comics have been so awful for a while now.

[Dirt Mc Girt]

ah 2 mins until weeds s4 starts and my satellite isn't picking up showtime for some reason :(

friggin storm

[P. Gorath]

i just started watching californication...so far it's awesome

[Geese Pants]

Regarding Superman Returns...........the kid, and the whole growing rock thing bothered me.

The only person what was great in the movie for me was Kevin Spacey........kick ass Luthor.

[angryliberal]

ah 2 mins until weeds s4 starts and my satellite isn't picking up showtime for some reason :(

friggin storm

s3 finally came out on dvd, we watched disk one last night. i was a little worried about this season, but the first five were good...

i have john from cincinnatti to watch this weekend, it came highly recommended...

oh, and i have to give pg a nod for all his "how i met ur mother" love - nph is effing GENIUS on that show...

[P. Gorath]

slap bet


john from cincinatti is horrible...be prepared

[angryliberal]

really? man...it came pretty well recommended by someone at my work who has very comaprable tastes to mine...californication was another one on my "i have to check it out" list...

i'm honestly surprised you never got into arrested development after seeing HIMYM, very similar styles...but yeah, slep bet KILLED me...when barney throws out the three quick smacks...i lost it...

[angryliberal]

http://www.fangoria.com/fearful_feature.php?id=6750

info on descent 2

[Kusanagi02]

I don't think that the superhero genre, much less Superman, must necessarily include punching. The genre is fertile ground for many kinds of storytelling and action is only one of them.

I think the fact that so many people insist on boxing superheroes in like that are why we have so many bad superhero movies, not to mention why superhero comics have been so awful for a while now.

But when i hear of a Superman movie, i think back to Superman 2 when he fought those 3 kryptonian prisoners. Thats something that Superman Returns should have went for. Put some action in it where Superman fighting someone of equal strength. Hell I would've been satisfied if it was Luthor in a giant robot.

At least Batman Begins had equal parts action and drama.

[P. Gorath]

http://www.fangoria.com/fearful_feature.php?id=6750

info on descent 2

the script is horrible, shits on everything that was good in the first one...I'm still trying to burn it out of my memory. For me, the international ending is the final word on the descent.

[angryliberal]

i couldn't agree more. while i'm not the fan of descent that some are, i still feel the movie was fine just how the uk version ended...

[angryliberal]

ok, i have recently become obsessed with QUALITY sci-fi. any recommendations?

also, are there any really good documentaries on black holes?

[P. Gorath]

westworld

[R.T.P.]

the mist was a great movie

[HeaT]

ok, i have recently become obsessed with QUALITY sci-fi. any recommendations?

also, are there any really good documentaries on black holes?

sunshine...

im outi

Roberth

[Shadowcuz]

the mist was a great movie
with a fucked up ending :(

[angryliberal]

sunshine...

im outi

Roberth

i heard this was pretty good, but had a lot of glaring scientific inaccuracies...

btw, did anyone catch the afi ten top ten last night? i know most those lists are complete bs, but i enjoy watching them anyways. in case anyone is interested, here are the lists:
http://www.afi.com/10top10/default.html

some thoughts by catagory:

animation - i pretty much agree with their choices.

romantic comedies - ok, first off, if the apartment isn't going to be number one, then it better be annie hall. also, how the FUCK does sleepless in seattle make the list, but the apartment does not?! also, harold and maude should be MUCH higher.

westerns - i would rearrange the whole list and drop cat ballou for magnificent seven, put high noon up to number one, drop the searchers down a spot or two.

sports - not a huge fan of sports movies, so i don't have much input. i think rudy should replace jerry maguire, and chariots of fire should replace breaking away, but otherwise, good choices.

mystery - again, mostly agree with their choices. i figured hitchcock would be all over the list, and he was.

fantasy - some very interesting choices here...i really don't know what to say about this list except that it was the least interesting to me.

sci-fi - 2001 at number one? ok, this list is just fine. i like some of their choices, but felt they could rearrange some of the films in the list. also, on a perosnal note, empire is better than a new hope, but they always give the credit to the first film. t2 over the first film was interesting.

gangster - ok, the top three of this list was sooooo effing predictable. i agree with it, cept i could switch number 2 and 3 without batting an eye, but it was a pretty good cross section of gangster films.

courtroom dramas - interesting choice of catagory. i predicted number one and two pretty easily. overall, not an interesting catagory.

epic - again, very predictable choices. i'm not saying i disagree with them, but i could have predicted those films in my sleep - cept maybe the placement of ten commandments, that was strange.

[goodm0urning]

ok, i have recently become obsessed with QUALITY sci-fi. any recommendations?Aside from 2001, which goes without saying, I'll vouch for Contact and Solaris. There really aren't many GOOD science fiction movies.

[E_VAYD]

My biggest gripe about AFI's recent list is it's consideration of animation as a genre. It isn't.

[angryliberal]

Aside from 2001, which goes without saying, I'll vouch for Contact and Solaris. There really aren't many GOOD science fiction movies.

contact - no, i hated it.

i own 2001, and solaris is at home right now from netflix.

[goodm0urning]

contact - no, i hated it.Did Matthew McConaughey touch you when you were little?

[EvilSamurai]

My comments on the most recent AFI lists of shit.

Fantasy: I fucking hated the Fantasy list. They had stupid sentimental shit like Miracle on 34th Street, Field of Dreams, It's a Wonderful Life, and Harvey. I would rather Conan the Barbarian than most of the movies on the list. Also, when I think of Fantasy, I think of like elves, dragons, magic swords,etc. They should have had a top 10 swords and sorcery list.

Epics: Fuck this too. Ben-Hur sucks outside of the chariot race, Titanic is a piece of shit, Gone With the Wind is overrated tripe, Lord of the Rings is practically unwatchable, and The Ten Commandments is just horrible. Grow some fucking balls list makers.

Westerns: Why in the name of the motherfucking mother of god are shit like Cat Ballou, Stage Coach, McCabe and Miller on this list? Where is the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly? Fuck I would rather watch Tombstone than some of these movies.

Sports: Ignorant listmakers need to learn that Rocky III and IV are the best Rockies as they get rid of all the unnecessary filler.

Mystery: A good list. My only complaint is Blue Velvet which sucks except for Dennis Hopper.

Gangster: The best of the lists. Predictable but is free from bad movies.

Sci-Fi: Get rid of the 50's shit and Star Wars. Put in Brazil, RoboCop, and The Empire Strikes Back.

[P. Gorath]

the original solaris, not the stupid clooney version

[angryliberal]

the original solaris, not the stupid clooney version

the russian one? yeah, that's what i have at home, the criterion cut.

edit: did you actually read the list, es? where, under epics, is lotr listed?! and isn't the good, the bad and the guly a spagetti western? you know...italian made...not part of the AMERICAN film institute? the top 3 westerns should have been high noon, shane and unforgiven, imo...

[HeaT]

i heard this was pretty good, but had a lot of glaring scientific inaccuracies...


i mean its sci-fi hahaha come on now...and regardless should still be watched no doubt, it was like one of the tightest movies of 2007 imo...so does this mean you are not going to watch it??? because i still think you should...

also gorath you is tripping solaris was fucking amazing imo...

i would recommend it as a sci-fi flick...

im outi

Roberth

[goodm0urning]

the original solaris, not the stupid clooney versionEither one. Soderbergh/Clooney Solaris is more of a psychodrama than a sci-fi. Either way, it's a better example of sci-fi than Star Wars, Back to the Future, or other resoundingly stupid answers people usually give to this question.

[angryliberal]

i mean its sci-fi hahaha come on now...and regardless should still be watched no doubt, it was like one of the tightest movies of 2007 imo...so does this mean you are not going to watch it??? because i still think you should...

also gorath you is tripping solaris was fucking amazing imo...

i would recommend it as a sci-fi flick...

im outi

Roberth

oh no, i'll watch it...i mean, if i watched event horizon (i have a serious obsession with black holes), i'm gonna watch this. i hated event horizon, btw.

also, people please remember that it is much more than just the quality of the film that weighs in on people's opinions. star wars is an epic film in the history of movie making. plain and simple, and to deny this influence on modern cinema would be quite ignorant.

[goodm0urning]

also, people please remember that it is much more than just the quality of the film that weighs in on people's opinions. star wars is an epic film in the history of movie making. plain and simple, and to deny this influence on modern cinema would be quite ignorant.As a science fiction film, Star Wars fails and fails hard. As a fantasy film, it can't be fucked with.

[angryliberal]

yes, but to the masses - space = science fiction and thusly, it has always been classified as so. i mean, techically you could call any science fiction, fantasy...

[goodm0urning]

yes, but to the masses - space = science fiction and thusly, it has always been classified as so. i mean, techically you could call any science fiction, fantasy...The masses also think Ride of the Valkyries, the Requiem Mass, and Toccata and Fugue in D Minor are all in the same genre.

If you're specifically asking for QUALITY sci-fi, I'm going to assume you're asking for the kind of stuff that didn't just wind up in the genre because of heuristics. I would not call Star Wars quality sci-fi at all.

[kane_warhead]

He doesn't punch anybody. People who go to see superhero movies don't actually want classic heroism, psychology, and romance. They want to see punching. That's pretty much what it boils down to.

People don't want to see another Hulk film.

Superman is meant to be superman. We don't want to see something a normal human can do when it comes to Superman... Let Superman be Superman.

Like in the first film, when Superman rewinds time so he could save Lois Lane because he loves her. That is what we want to see.

And also, aside from Kevin Spacey, the whole cast was weak.

[angryliberal]

well, i think the point is that sci-fi is such a broad sweeping catagory, that an accurate list would siply depend on the perception of the genre by the reader. compare how broad the scope of "sci fi" is to something like "courtroom drama" - it specifically defines the sub genre of drama, leading to a much more focussed result. in the case of defining a list of sci-fi, you have to take into account the broad scope of the genre and try to accurately represent the whole scope of the genre. star wars is clearly science fiction/fantasy - the definitions of both genres can easily be applied to the movie.

anyways, i'm not defending the afi's choice, just the fact that star wars is sci-fi.

[goodm0urning]

Like in the first film, when Superman rewinds time so he could save Lois Lane because he loves her. That is what we want to see.Not that it ultimately matters to me, but you thought that the whole bit where he caught a falling airplane or lifted an entire island (made of shit that hurts him, no less) in order to save the world was just Superman doing the stuff any old Joe can do?

anyways, i'm not defending the afi's choice, just the fact that star wars is sci-fi.I'm not necessarily saying that Star Wars can't be sci-fi, but I am saying that insisting on viewing it through that lens is not the best way to watch it. It's like attempting to classify A Fish Called Wanda as a crime drama.

[angryliberal]

I'm not necessarily saying that Star Wars can't be sci-fi, but I am saying that insisting on viewing it through that lens is not the best way to watch it. It's like attempting to classify A Fish Called Wanda as a crime drama.

both me and the definition of science fiction disagree with your comparison.

[goodm0urning]

both me and the definition of science fiction disagree with your comparison."The definition of science fiction?"

Okay, I'll bite: let's hear it.

[angryliberal]

Science fiction (abbreviated SF or sci-fi with varying punctuation and capitalization) is a broad genre of fiction that often involves speculations based on current or future science or technology.

sounds a whole lot like star wars (space ships, hyper drives, light sabers, lasers, interplanetary travel)...maybe it's just me...

[Zigmover21]

Science fiction (abbreviated SF or sci-fi with varying punctuation and capitalization) is a broad genre of fiction that often involves speculations based on current or future science or technology.

sounds a whole lot like star wars (space ships, hyper drives, light sabers, lasers, interplanetary travel)...maybe it's just me...

Spaceships in Star Wars fly like they're in WW2 dogfights. There is no attempt to explain any technology or fictional powers (except in the Prequals, and it sucked). The humans aren't called humans, and Earth doesn't exist. The story begins "Long, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away".

You're just looking at the superficial. Break it down, and you'll see that Star Wars is MUCH closer to fantasy than sci-fi.

[goodm0urning]

Science fiction (abbreviated SF or sci-fi with varying punctuation and capitalization) is a broad genre of fiction that often involves speculations based on current or future science or technology.

sounds a whole lot like star wars (space ships, hyper drives, light sabers, lasers, interplanetary travel)...maybe it's just me...Star Wars is a little too science-deficient to fit well within that definition. I don't consider fictional technology speculative if there's no plausible physical mechanism behind how it works, or if there's little in the way of extrapolation from existing technologies. I also don't think a film that ultimately predicates its message on religious literalism or magical powers fits the scientific side of the equation.

Again, I'm not denying that it's sci-fi. Star Wars can be classified as science fiction, but it's not GOOD science fiction. It's not a very representative example of the genre and it poorly fits the genre's conventions. As you yourself said, the masses (in other words, people who have not looked into the genre to see what it's really all about) think of Star Wars as sci-fi because it has space and lasers and shit like that. Perhaps, on that most superficial of levels, it does seem very sci-fi. But if you want GOOD sci-fi--something that uses scientific concepts as storytelling devices, extrapolates futuristic technologies, or what have you--Star Wars isn't the first place I'd recommend looking.

Spaceships in Star Wars fly like they're in WW2 dogfights.^^ A very important point. The scenes with ships flying around in space are the most overtly sci-fi thing about Star Wars, so they're a pretty crucial litmus test as far as how much "sci" goes into the "fi." Aerodynamic ships executing complex maneuvers and making all kinds of sounds give evidence that the filmmakers didn't even bother to consider that the scenes are supposed to be taking place in a vacuum.

[HeaT]

oh Dark City is a tight sci fi joint if you havent seen it angryliberal...like one of my favorite movies...

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Roberth

[goodm0urning]

Dark City is a good pick. It's like the Matrix, but less actioney and more... darkery.

I also like Blade Runner, Pi, The Fly (Cronenberg's version), Planet of the Apes (has anybody not seen this?), Gattaca, and Minority Report. I like Star Trek: the Original Series, but I prefer the show over the movies. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence is okay, if you can deal with the clusterfuck that happens when Spielberg's and Kubrick's respective world views collide. And though it's kind of an atypical choice, I'd say Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is an example of good sci-fi.

And don't forget classics like Destination: Moon (which I have not seen, but have read the very good short story), Frankenstein, Metropolis, and the Twilight Zone (show, not movie).

[angryliberal]

once again, i'm NOT arguing that it's GOOD sience fiction, just that it is, in fact science fiction. that's it. i don't need three paragraphs that i'm never going to read to try and convince me otherwise...

edit: yeah, i have dark city also.

[goodm0urning]

once again, i'm NOT arguing that it's GOOD sience fiction, just that it is, in fact science fiction. that's it. i don't need three paragraphs that i'm never going to read to try and convince me otherwise...Good, because you won't find three paragraphs like that anywhere in this thread.

HOW NOW, MALVOLIO?!?!


Also, Robocop.

[angryliberal]

i definately agree that eternal sunshine is science fiction. same with being john malkovich.

edit: not a robocop fan. it's the same with terminator and for the most part, predator. i understand why people like them, but i just don't. i'm more the 2001 science fiction type...

[goodm0urning]

i definately agree that eternal sunshine is science fiction. same with being john malkovich.Yeah, Being John Malkovich is good. Not to be a pretentious ass (as I usually am), but I think Charlie Kaufman is a damn brilliant writer.

edit: not a robocop fan. it's the same with terminator and for the most part, predator. i understand why people like them, but i just don't. i'm more the 2001 science fiction type...I know what you're saying, but I think Robocop works on a deeper level than most action-oriented sci-fi. There's a dense layer of satire that I don't think many people think to use in science fiction. Maybe Terry Gilliam and a few others.

[P. Gorath]

David Lynch's Dune
Primer
Planet of the Apes series
Night of the Comet
Outland
The Last Starfighter

[angryliberal]

Yeah, Being John Malkovich is good. Not to be a pretentious ass (as I usually am), but I think Charlie Kaufman is a damn brilliant writer.

i couldn't agree more. i LOVE charlie kaufman.

I know what you're saying, but I think Robocop works on a deeper level than most action-oriented sci-fi. There's a dense layer of satire that I don't think many people think to use in science fiction. Maybe Terry Gilliam and a few others.

terry gilliam is a director i didn't fully "get" until i got older...

[Zigmover21]

David Lynch's Dune

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! It's HORRIBLE!!!

[EvilSamurai]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! It's HORRIBLE!!!

P. Gorath is probably the type of dude that liked Waterworld :sad:. The only good thing about Waterworld was Dennis Hopper's fake eye.

[HeaT]

oh shit i forgot about primer, that movie was fucking tight...

anyway new cohen brothers movie looks tight!!! hahaha...cant wait...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tEDPZNWG4o

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Roberth

[imasloen]

Man, these are some nice sci-fi recommendations. I need to get with the program.

Speaking of the AFI 10 Top 10 though, I thought their choices of genres were a little strange. I kind of wanted to see a horror top 10...

[goodm0urning]

anyway new cohen brothers movie looks tight!!! hahaha...cant wait...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tEDPZNWG4o

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RoberthI love these guys.

[Chozen1]

wonder if you guys have seen the last run. I'd recommend it. it's with fred savage?! O_O! crazyness

[kane_warhead]

Not that it ultimately matters to me, but you thought that the whole bit where he caught a falling airplane or lifted an entire island (made of shit that hurts him, no less) in order to save the world was just Superman doing the stuff any old Joe can do?



More like it was already expected. No one batted an eye when he did those shit, because for years we've already known he could do that.

When I meant about what a normal joe can do, I meant was we don't need to see emotional drama that every normal joe fucking feels.

We want more epic showing of his powers. He's Superman and that film was weak.

Defend the film all you want, but Superman returns was shitty.

[EvilSamurai]

This is like the stupidest idea ever but I have an idea for Bad Dudes: The Movie. Put Keanu Reeves and Nicholas Cage in it as members of top commando squad and make the top agency guy who gives them their mission a conspirator (Have like a "villain" actor play him like Gary Oldman, Alan Rickman, or Christopher Walken). Have him be the closet head of a Batman Begins style ninja cult that kidnaps the president and just add tons of explosions, senseless violence, and pointless nudity for an awesome movie. Imagine how unintentionally hilarious the scene where they realize they got set up and their entire mission is a trap would be.

[P. Gorath]

watched the proposition again last night...movie is sooo good

[goodm0urning]

More like it was already expected. No one batted an eye when he did those shit, because for years we've already known he could do that. So? We also know he can kick butt. Know what we haven't seen him do yet? Go fly fishing. Maybe they can make a movie about that.

When I meant about what a normal joe can do, I meant was we don't need to see emotional drama that every normal joe fucking feels.

We want more epic showing of his powers. He's Superman and that film was weak.You don't care about the emotional content and you want to see super-brawls? Go see the Incredible Hulk. You are the ideal viewer for that movie.

Defend the film all you want, but Superman returns was shitty.Bash the film all you want, but Superman Returns is pretty good.

Ha, see what I did there?

[Dirt Mc Girt]

i went on a saw marathon last night

i only saw the first one and really liked it, but it really fell off the cliff after that

third had to be the worst by far

the ending of 4 was confusing too, maybe just bc i was bored and given up on the film, but i didn't realize they were switching back and forth between the saw 3 ending and the saw 4 ending, i thought both were happening at the same time whoops

and i guess the autopsy in the beginning was after the events of the film and not before??

i really think if they sat down after the 2nd one and just wrote all three at once and maybe filmed them all at once it would of been better. i mean its not like they have huge budgets anyway so if 2 or 3 bombed, the others could go straight to DVD and recoup the budget most likely. plus it would be cheaper

i remember seeing on a matrix documentary that they saved almost 50 million dollars by filming 2 and 3 at the same time, mostly because they were reusing the same sets and if they filmed them separately they would of knocked down the sets and rebuilt them

[HeaT]

watched the proposition again last night...movie is sooo good

fuck ya it is...i posted about that a while ago in this thread i think...fucking epic movie...

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Roberth

[SuicidalGrandpa]

Rize was an awesome documentary :tup: I'd recommend it to anybody.

[kane_warhead]

So? We also know he can kick butt. Know what we haven't seen him do yet? Go fly fishing. Maybe they can make a movie about that.

You don't care about the emotional content and you want to see super-brawls? Go see the Incredible Hulk. You are the ideal viewer for that movie.

Bash the film all you want, but Superman Returns is pretty good.

Ha, see what I did there?

WRONG! [/Lex Luthor]

Did you managed to read what I said? I did not even said anything about brawls... All I said that the movie needed Superman doing something epic(Like Superman 1 and Superman 2(except those random powers))

The film was lackluster. Kevin Spacey was the only thing good in that movie...

Superman was emo in Superman returns.

[P. Gorath]

i went on a saw marathon last night

i only saw the first one and really liked it, but it really fell off the cliff after that

third had to be the worst by far

the ending of 4 was confusing too, maybe just bc i was bored and given up on the film, but i didn't realize they were switching back and forth between the saw 3 ending and the saw 4 ending, i thought both were happening at the same time whoops

and i guess the autopsy in the beginning was after the events of the film and not before??

i really think if they sat down after the 2nd one and just wrote all three at once and maybe filmed them all at once it would of been better. i mean its not like they have huge budgets anyway so if 2 or 3 bombed, the others could go straight to DVD and recoup the budget most likely. plus it would be cheaper

i remember seeing on a matrix documentary that they saved almost 50 million dollars by filming 2 and 3 at the same time, mostly because they were reusing the same sets and if they filmed them separately they would of knocked down the sets and rebuilt them

Yeah there is a chasm between Saw and its sequels bigger than any horror franchise I can think of. Saw 2 was garbage, Saw 3 I turned off halfway through and havent felt the need to revisit even though they play it all the time on Showtime and Saw 4 I didnt bother with. However for some reason my dad loves these movies.

[Remy Saotome]

I'm prolly behind the times, but I just saw "A Scanner Darkly" and "Momento". A Scanner Darkly was amazing, I really want to find it on DVD now. Momento was also interesting, though I kinda felt a little cheated by the way the ending just spells everything out for you in a run-on of dialog.

[Dirt Mc Girt]

saw 3 was hilarious at the end it was like 20 twists all at once

everyone was playing the game and being tested

the one corny thing i hate about saw too is where at the end they're always like, didn't you know you were playing??? then the character has a weird look on his face as they show a slow mo montage of the clues throughout the movie as that song plays

the one thing i did like about 4 though was they gave a lot of backstory on jigsaw and why he does it, besides the whole he has cancer thing

and in 3 he got on amanda because she was giving unwinnable games to the people and she was a murderer, but the games in 4 were unwinnable too. jigsaw gotta get his accomplises in check

i can't believe they're making a 5th one of these

[goodm0urning]

Did you managed to read what I said? I did not even said anything about brawls... All I said that the movie needed Superman doing something epic(Like Superman 1 and Superman 2(except those random powers)) Then I guess we're stuck wondering what it is that you mean by this, since lifting an entire island out of an ocean and hurling it into space as it's killing you doesn't qualify.

That's really my only quibble with what you're saying here. "Epic" is a poor descriptor, because for one thing, it's a word that conjures up very different images depending on who you're talking to. For another, who's to say that the island thing is less or more epic than battling Kryptonian villains? I wasn't aware that there is a gradual scale of epic-ness that different superfeats can be measured by.

As for Superman being emo... no, he wasn't. Dealing with a crisis of emotion does not make one "emo." Being a whiny little turd who cuts himself while listening to AFI makes one emo. If you didn't like the movie, that's fine with me, but getting upset because the character has problems to deal with besides the latest supervillain in town seems kind of ridiculous to me.

[angryliberal]

what's "the proposition"?

[EvilSamurai]

I just saw Mongol. IT WAS EPIC.

[P. Gorath]

what's "the proposition"?

It's an australian western that came out 2-3 years ago starring Guy Pearce. Nick Cave (the singer) wrote the screenplay. Netflix that shit asap

[HeaT]

It's an australian western that came out 2-3 years ago starring Guy Pearce. Nick Cave (the singer) wrote the screenplay. Netflix that shit asap

ya the basic plot is guy is given a proposition, and its to track down and kill his older brother (cause his older brother is some crazy ass dude who kills people and has a bounty on his head) in order to save his younger brother...and shit gets intense...this movie is like amazing...some poetic shit...

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Roberth

[YellowS4]

I just saw Mongol. IT WAS EPIC.

Lol. Hopefully they go through with the trilogy.

[angryliberal]

Netflix that shit asap

done and moved to the top.

[Gord]

Yeah there is a chasm between Saw and its sequels bigger than any horror franchise I can think of.

Even bigger than Friday the 13th and its "sequels"?

[HeaT]

done and moved to the top.

let us know what you think...

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Roberth

[P. Gorath]

Even bigger than Friday the 13th and its "sequels"?

Infinitely. Unlike Nightmare on Elm Street, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, or Halloween, Friday the 13th the original isnt even the best of the series, least of all leagues better than anything that followed (as is the case for Halloween). Hell, F13 Part 2 is better than the original, not to mention parts 4 and 6

[BIG BAD MOG]

Why do film analysts say that "Lost in Translation" and "Citizen Kane" were great movies?

[Stanman]

Why do film analysts say that "Lost in Translation" and "Citizen Kane" were great movies?

I wasn't a fan of lost in translation, but even I admit that Citizen Kane is probably the greatest movie ever made.

To put it simply, if you were to look as a movie as a visual story then Citizen Kane is nearly the textbook example.

[BIG BAD MOG]

I understood the visual elements and the psychological aspects that those techniques bring, but other than that, it's a movie about a dude...

[angryliberal]

I understood the visual elements and the psychological aspects that those techniques bring, but other than that, it's a movie about a dude...

yeah, and godfather is a movie about a family and seven samurai is a movie about fuedal japan - i mean, you can break any movie down to some trivial element...

[Dirt Mc Girt]

man Wanted has 100% at rotten tomatoes

only 7 reviews, but some good places like Variety and LA weekly are there

[Remy Saotome]

What the heck is that movie about anyway? The trailers don't tell you anything.

[Dirt Mc Girt]

something about they're super assassins, kids father gets killed and they teach him how to use his hidden powers and i guess they want him to join their group

so morgan freeman and jolie want to train him to use his abilities and i guess he learns a life lesson and then there's a big climax

[Stanman]

something about they're super assassins, kids father gets killed and they teach him how to use his hidden powers and i guess they want him to join their group

so morgan freeman and jolie want to train him to use his abilities and i guess he learns a life lesson and then there's a big climax

I've read the comic, to me it just seemed like something Frank Miller would write if he was given the duty of reimagining Watchmen.

It was an alright story. I suppose I can see the movie working well as a blockbuster.

[P. Gorath]

yeah i was surprised when I opened up variety this morning and read the Wanted review. I guess Timor came through

[Dirt Mc Girt]

i did like night watch by the director

i guess it shows how much a trailer can influence you

wanted has like 12 trailers out there and they all look stupid

i just saw so i married an axe murderer on blu ray

underrated flick IMO, pq was alright for hi def, no special features is lame especially when its called special edition

[Sheng-Long]

No "Intolerance" on the AFI Top 10 epic huh?

ok, i have recently become obsessed with QUALITY sci-fi. any recommendations?


Metropolis ! Metropolis! Metropolis! (original running time is 205 minutes :angry: I would kill my first born to see that)

Seconds (1966)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060955/

Things to Come (1966)
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0028358/

[Gord]

About to watch Nausicaa for the first time tonight. :tup:

[Remy Saotome]

It's too bad that some of the scenes in Metropolis have become lost due to improper film storing methods. That movie really is visually amazing, especially for the time it was made.

[Stanman]

About to watch Nausicaa for the first time tonight. :tup:

I really like this movie. In fact, this movie and mononoke have a different tone from all the rest of this mov