STREET FIGHTER II #1 thoughts!

[udoneko]

The book is out! Let me know what you think!!!

[Gojira]

I had two WTF moments during the Cammy scene:
First, as it's been mentioned before, you have to be careful not to stereotype Dee Jay. He's a kickboxer, so handstands and such aren't exactly his style. And second... Ginzu's face in that last panel was extremely WTF. Is "indubitably" some kind of British slang for "I'm going to stab you in the neck and drink all the blood from your corpse"? Because that's what his expression looked like.

Otherwise everything else was great. Gouken's death was appropriately brutal, Rose's history was decent, Chun Li's kung fu was nuts, Ken's still a funny guy, and Ryu's interaction with Dhalsim and Sagat makes me look forward to the next issue. And extra points for fighting on Dhalsim's SF2 stage.

BTW I never knew that Nishimura-sensei only uses Photoshop for all her stuff. I often hear a lot of artists bashing PS for art composition.

[The Switcher]

I had two WTF moments during the Cammy scene:
First, as it's been mentioned before, you have to be careful not to stereotype Dee Jay. He's a kickboxer, so handstands and such aren't exactly his style. And second... Ginzu's face in that last panel was extremely WTF. Is "indubitably" some kind of British slang for "I'm going to stab you in the neck and drink all the blood from your corpse"? Because that's what his expression looked like.

Otherwise everything else was great. Gouken's death was appropriately brutal, Rose's history was decent, Chun Li's kung fu was nuts, Ken's still a funny guy, and Ryu's interaction with Dhalsim and Sagat makes me look forward to the next issue. And extra points for fighting on Dhalsim's SF2 stage.

BTW I never knew that Nishimura-sensei only uses Photoshop for all her stuff. I often hear a lot of artists bashing PS for art composition.

Me too, Painter is always being pimped out more. I like PS more, personally.

Yeah, I would have much rather had more story, then the Rival Schools preview. I like Rey a lot...but I haven't liked either preview of it so far. I won't be buying it.

I LOVED Alvin's style change in the flashback, I would love certain special issues/back ups to be all drawn like that. I also loved the interaction between Sagat/Ryu/Dhalsim.

But I'm getting pretty tired of the Cammy arc...I just wish at least ONE issue focused completely on one thing every once in a while. I'm also really happy that Delta Red will stay out of a few issues, I know you guys don't have a lot to work with when it comes to them, but I find them a waste of a panels. Loved the Ken/Eliza bit, the Chun-Li/Gen bit, and I'm thankfull you guys finally acknowledged what the hell happened with that lame Dee Jay cameo a few issues back. I hope he shows up once more. :p

Overall, a good issue, but I wish there was less setup to where the story was, I really thought that was the point of #0.

[Tokoyama2000]

chun's ''street'' outfit is whack.
other than that, alvin and arnold's work kick ass

[SFMC]

I thought this issue was good. I liked it. Can't wait till next issue.

[Skyler]

the issue was good, but i still think cammy needs to hold off for awhile cause im tire of hearing her cry about her darn past.

[Sano]

Wow, I really liked seeing Vega's(Cape) master, and a female too! Much better than his male master that shows up in those Hong Kong comics that looks like Vega but only has a green outfit and long blonde hair too. Also wondering what happened, did Rose get Vega's good side after he dumped it out and/or did she just get her master's powers? And what's the master's name? Arg... but that's the best way to handle mysterious characters like Vega, create even more mysteries even when you reveal his origin. The rest of the book, the art, Gouken's death, the legnth, all of the characters shown, great stuff! I was literally blown away! If you can keep this pace up the book should be great!

About Nishimura and photoshop, yeah, there's an issue of the English version of Newtype magazine that came out about 2 years ago that shows you how she works and it takes you step by step while she creates an image for Overking Gainer.

[The V]

Art wise my favourite parts were the prologue and the "cracked tile" effects you put in the elephant god pictures-nice attention to detail. Hip hop Chun was kinda interesting. The only thing I didn't like art wise was Ginzu's new face...looked like a mad scientist assistant to me.

Story looks more focused, everyones goals are clear right at the onset. Interesting Bison master bit. Sano, I think she transferred her abilities into Rose. The whole lightning bolt tattoo thing and Rose seems to know a lot about Bison, but in the recap she is a little kid who appears to never have seen him before.

Overall, good stuff.

[Sammuraiblade]

This issue was chunk full of story it was great.

The prologue was sick. it was like a nightmare and kung-fu movie.
The beef of the actual comic had so many unexpected plot points: Like the rose origin. :wgrin:

The art : awesome as always

Rey's art on the Rivals Schools preview was more sharp this time around, can't wait to pick it up in Jan.

[Tokoyama2000]

quick question
what happened to the one tcg card per issue deal?

[udoneko]

quick question
what happened to the one tcg card per issue deal?

that was issue 0. not issue 1....

[Gain]

i enjoyed the issue, particularly the begining,,, as i've said in another thread, i love the art...

i do have to agree with Switcher on getting tired of the Cammy stories and too much set up, BUT i am NOT the only reader of the books, so i shouldn't really complain... hopefully characters like Makoto will also be shown moderate attention, and if so, i'm sure someone will complain about it...

good job guys!...

PS will the raw edition be put up on the ClubUdon site?

[Gimpy]

Cammy cries about her past because she needs sex :rofl: ........well that was a couple of seconds that was wasted. I need to pick up it up. Do anyone knows if the second graphic novel out for "Street Fighter"?

[Sano]

The second graphic novel's been out for a few months now.

[Tokoyama2000]

that was issue 0. not issue 1....

i see. i thought it was an on going thing though
oh well

[udoneko]

i enjoyed the issue, particularly the begining,,, as i've said in another thread, i love the art...

i do have to agree with Switcher on getting tired of the Cammy stories and too much set up, BUT i am NOT the only reader of the books, so i shouldn't really complain... hopefully characters like Makoto will also be shown moderate attention, and if so, i'm sure someone will complain about it...

good job guys!...

PS will the raw edition be put up on the ClubUdon site?

The Cammy, Ken, and Guile scenes in issue 1 are more like recaps. To very quickly introduce the characters to people who just picked up the book. Kinda needed for a relaunch since we were away for a few months. Otherwise, you will see some new progression of Cammy in the next few issues that will show the fighter side of her instead the puzzle side.

We agree that the puzzle and lost Cammy should be done with. Now lets FIGHT!

[Artayes]

Great issue! I love the various art used throughout the series. i felt issue 1 of the relaunch helped capture the essense of the characters like Ryu reaching into his 'darkside' to defeat sagat.Great stuff.
One question to you Udoneko, will we be seeing more of Sakura in future issues of street fighter?

[rab_uk]

right, i've got the issue next to me so i can remind myself of all the awesome bits - coz this comic rocked!! I would say this is probably the best street fighter comic you have produced yet Udon, well done, i bloody loved it ( pucka ! ;) covers - sue perb! prologue - totally amaaaaazing artwork, i love seeing more of ryus master, and the way akuma paints that Shun Goku Satsu - just brilliant. Loved it. Then the main story kicks in - ok the first page or two is a recap, but i loved the way the first page was dun, and dhalsims temple looked cool....then - well, i have never really liked Rose, but that may have now just changed - that origin story was hella sweet, Bison looked awesome, really showed off his powers brilliantly...i liked the drawing of blanka alot fighting dee jay, he looked feral and not too hum, cool eyes....composition for cammy flashback page was cool, felt really like a movie flash back, but i slightly agree that she has been in the comic waaay more than enuff :)....and then....Sagat appears at the end! Rock my Kasbah, i cant wait for issue 2!!

thanks Udon!

[JeKKyl]

great issue. alvin's artwork right now is amazing. his work now after darkstalker's has been infinitely better than anything anyone did in the old issues. storywise, the book's off to a great start too. i'd like it if the book stayed focused on ryu and stayed away from others like cammy, but still, things look really interesting right now.

great work!

[mbthomas]

Great issue.

Did anyone else get like a radioactiveman vibe out of the whole rose power origin story.....atomic explosion "argh an atomic explosion! ...body filling within radioactive power. From this day forward I am radioactive man!"

[BBCampbell]

(The post that was previously here sucked. This is my second, more thoughtful attempt at an issue critique.)

Critique of issue 1:

THE GOOD

- Finally, a new issue of SF!!! It's about time... ;-)

- The art was great, as it always is. (A few guest artists whose style I'm just not a fan of aside...)

- Some insight as to how Bison (and Rose) got their powers.

THE BAD

- Dee Jay and Blanka's stories just plain getting glossed over. Dee Jay and Blanka should be back by issue 3 or 4, not in issue 1 as if deprogramming them was easy. "Hey, we were brainwashed and now we're not! Isn't that great?" (Side note: I don't mind Dee Jay busting out with some Capoeira. He's a musician, so it makes sense. Just don't forget to have him do his specials. :tup: )

- A whole bunch of characters were thrown in the issue who didn't really do anything. Chun Li, Gen, Yun, Yang, Guile, & Ken didn't really do anything. The issue should have been about Ryu's visit to Dhalsim, Cammy leaving Delta Red, and Bison's resurrection/flashback only, leaving more pages for each.

THE UGLY

- That little guy in Delta Red's face when he said "Indubitably". WTF? Is he fighting the Satsui no Hadou too?

- Naked Bison. There are just some sides of SF I don't want to see... Ewwww...

[ShotoKlownIori]

SHIT! I did end up forgetting....i'll be getting it asap if it's sill available...:shake:

[wakasashe]

This was a very impressive first issue. Great variety of story and artwork. I was exceptionally please with Dhalsim and his stage being present.
The intro to Bison's origens/Rose's mentor was AWESOME. Great work in character design and storytelling. Thanks Udon!

[Udon_Alvin_Lee]

Hey all,

I must apologize for Ginzu's "indubitably" face, If you picked up the raw edition i made a comment about it, but i dunno if it got edited out or anything. I dunno what i was thinking when i was drawing it, but i think that at the time i had just picked up the new Gorillaz album, and felt the urge to draw a Hewlitt inspired face. Im sorry if it was kinda out of no where....No more selfish endeavours! :sweat:

but overall im glad you enjoyed the book, through the good the bad and the ugly, and i sincerely hope you will stay along for the ride!

Alvin

[truth0ne SGC]

Hey all,

I must apologize for Ginzu's "indubitably" face, If you picked up the raw edition i made a comment about it, but i dunno if it got edited out or anything. I dunno what i was thinking when i was drawing it, but i think that at the time i had just picked up the new Gorillaz album, and felt the urge to draw a Hewlitt inspired face. Im sorry if it was kinda out of no where....No more selfish endeavours! :sweat:

but overall im glad you enjoyed the book, through the good the bad and the ugly, and i sincerely hope you will stay along for the ride!

Alvin


"Dirty Harry" is my shit off that album...
Stay on your grind, chief...

[DA GAME]

(The post that was previously here sucked. This is my second, more thoughtful attempt at an issue critique.)

Critique of issue 1:

THE GOOD

- Finally, a new issue of SF!!! It's about time... ;-)

- The art was great, as it always is. (A few guest artists whose style I'm just not a fan of aside...)

- Some insight as to how Bison (and Rose) got their powers.

THE BAD

- Dee Jay and Blanka's stories just plain getting glossed over. Dee Jay and Blanka should be back by issue 3 or 4, not in issue 1 as if deprogramming them was easy. "Hey, we were brainwashed and now we're not! Isn't that great?" (Side note: I don't mind Dee Jay busting out with some Capoeira. He's a musician, so it makes sense. Just don't forget to have him do his specials. :tup: )

- A whole bunch of characters were thrown in the issue who didn't really do anything. Chun Li, Gen, Yun, Yang, Guile, & Ken didn't really do anything. The issue should have been about Ryu's visit to Dhalsim, Cammy leaving Delta Red, and Bison's resurrection/flashback only, leaving more pages for each.

THE UGLY

- That little guy in Delta Red's face when he said "Indubitably". WTF? Is he fighting the Satsui no Hadou too?

- Naked Bison. There are just some sides of SF I don't want to see... Ewwww...
DA GAME agrees with everything you said.Yeah naked Bison was ugly.DG would rather have naked Rose

[Leo Sal]

After a week of reading spoilers and such, I finally went out a got an issue. I'm certainly glad I did! It's worth every penny. Can't wait to get the RAWs!

Thoughts:
The art style used for the Akuma/Gouken battle worked really well. It did a good job of showing of the intensity of Akuma. I know some people complained aobut him saying "Shun Goku Satsu" the way he did, but I think he did say it like that when he blew up M. Bison in his Alpha 3 ending.

I love the way Akuma wipes Goukens blood on the walls so ritualisticly. It was beautiful.

Anyone else notice how Sakura shows up in the Character Select and has no lines or appearances thoughout the issue? That look on her face when Ryu first faces Adon is pretty comical, though.

I loved the Bison/Rose thing. All I will say is that it was told perfectly. Answer question by creating more questions, Perfect!

Did anyone else notice how big Bison was walking down that corridor with Vega? I know he's big, but he's not Zangief!

I know everyone notices Ginzu's freakish expression, but how come nobody notices his blob-thing crying when Cammy told them she was leaving.

I love where the Ken/Guile thing is headed. There personalities are so different, you can get a lot of cool and funny stories out of them and the ladies.

Sagat emerges! I love how Sagat always seems to show up dramatically.

Ryu has hands down the best moment in the entire run of the comic. Instead of being his usual self, he aggressively challenges Sagat. He dosen't hesitate or anything. Quite impressive.

"Things Change. I want to fight you here and now. If you want your rematch, now's the time Sagat."

It's way better than his usual "If you want a fight, you've got one." thing he usually does. Character development at its finest!

Finally, I think Rival Schools was pretty cool. It's probably mean no more Cheap Shots, which I liked. At least Rey now has his own 22- page monthly extravaganza.

I guess thats it for now, one question though: When's Fei-Long coming back?

[LostPhrack]

Finally, I think Rival Schools was pretty cool. It's probably mean no more Cheap Shots, which I liked. At least Rey now has his own 22- page monthly extravaganza.

40 pages!

Anywho. I enjoyed this issue. Ginzu's face was a bit odd, as everyone's pointed out, but otherwise I really liked it. It was nice to see some of the characters in new clothing too, didn't really expect that for some reason.

Bison's origin was pretty intriguing, definately curious about his master and how what happened affected Rose.

Good stuff.

[rey]

glad you guys are digging Rival Schools... just wait 'til the next backup!!!! you'll be amazed what I managed to fit into 4 pages >:]

and then of course, 40-page solid fighting comics in 2006 when #1 drops!!!!

[CHAiNwhore]

Arn's job on the prologue was siiiick. So awesome stylistically, and very fitting for that sequence. Loved the Rose/Bison origin story part too. Very satisfying to see a backstory for how they are linked. Great job guys!

[Sano]

Hey all,

I must apologize for Ginzu's "indubitably" face, If you picked up the raw edition i made a comment about it, but i dunno if it got edited out or anything. I dunno what i was thinking when i was drawing it, but i think that at the time i had just picked up the new Gorillaz album, and felt the urge to draw a Hewlitt inspired face. Im sorry if it was kinda out of no where....No more selfish endeavours! :sweat:

but overall im glad you enjoyed the book, through the good the bad and the ugly, and i sincerely hope you will stay along for the ride!

Alvin

Great to see you posting here at SRK! :tup:

[martinitolove]

Hi
after a long abstence from this board, here is my opinion on #1:

I liked it!

By the way, have someone noticed in the player select pages, under Eliza's name it was written "Ken's fiancee" not "Ken's wife" as it should be now.

And does it just seems so, but in the 20 year flashback of Bison, he is much thinner as in the now-version? (Yet i am missing the thin Bison)

I hope in one of the future issues there will be an other flashback to the first SF-Tournament, where we can see all the fighters from SF1...

greets

[JackTenrac!]

Great work, Ko, Sui-Chong, Lee, and everybody else.

So...Eliza > Gouki on Ken, eh?

[Gojira]

Hey all,

I must apologize for Ginzu's "indubitably" face, If you picked up the raw edition i made a comment about it, but i dunno if it got edited out or anything. I dunno what i was thinking when i was drawing it, but i think that at the time i had just picked up the new Gorillaz album, and felt the urge to draw a Hewlitt inspired face. Im sorry if it was kinda out of no where....No more selfish endeavours! :sweat:


LOL, Gorillaz, I totally see that now. It's still weird but at least now I know it didn't come out of nowhere.

Nice of you to clear it up personally. Keep up the 99% selfless work! :rofl:

[CptMunta]

Finally Us kiwis get our SF 2 Lovin' I got my comic today.

I must say that this issue was pants creamingly awesome!

Dhalsim is AWESOME! Avlin Lee is kicking ass!

Congrats Erik Ko and co. Keep up the good work!

[DanielLarusso]

My thoughts:

Great, great issue. The best yet. Why? Because it felt like a full issue, rather than half an issue as it was when we were getting the backstories. I really kept turning the page expecting for the main story to end with half the comic pages still left, but this one never ended. It was great, a full story throughout with a great Rival Schools at the end.

I know the reasons for the original backstories, and I know we've ran up and down that road in the past, but believe me - this is the way to go. I'm sure it kills poor Alvin though to have to draw a lot more to make an issue now however.

Which brings me to my next point: Alvin Lee is not an artist, he's a magician. The man was born to draw SF, and his knowledge of the source material never fails to shine through in his artwork. There's so many little things in the artwork that you'd only catch if you have knowledge of the game - Chun's hcb + k move during that street fight comes to mind in this issue. Great stuff.

I'd also put my two cents in for the book to focus more on the core Ryu/Ken/Chun Li/Guile arc, but that's hardly a complaint, because I love what I'm reading, only a suggestion. New characters should be brought in only when they're seen from Ryu/Ken/Chun Li/Guile's perspective, or ties in with their arc. And to a lesser extent Akuma/Bison/Vega (claw)/Sagat's perspective.

One thing I have to disagree with the previous posters though is I LOVE the slower pace. When this book first came out I was worried that it was moving too fast, but I love this pace now. It makes the fights that much more meaningful and anticipated with such build up. Who want be at the comic shop to pick up next issue to see that Ryu/Sagat tussle?

Oh and one more thing - loved the anime-ish "tear drop" over Ken's head when he was talking to Eliza.

-The Kid

[Bass X0]

the slower pace is good but i found that this issue was just a transitional story, setting up future issues. it seemed like the issue was split up into several chapters...

chapter 1: akuma kills gouken
chapter 2: ryu travels to india
chapter 3: bison kills his master
chapter 4: bison is reborn
chapter 5: delta red
chapter 6: chun-li meets gen
chapter 7: eliza and julia set up a dinner date
chapter 8: ryu meets sagat

only one 'chapter' follows on from a previous one in the same issue (Ryu's). i guess people can say past and present bison stories can be related too seeing as how they are back to back.

it just seems like eight short stories fitted together - 5, 6 and 7 can be pretty much in any order.

as i said - a transitional piece but I did like the character development. i am glad that dee jay and blanka have had their de-brainwashing glossed over. one page is all it needed. any more and other pages in this comic would have to be sacrificed as delta red aren't likely to retun for a good while. some times, a section of a story is so obvious and that it doesn't need to be included to show what happens - the reader can accurately guess what went on behind the scenes themselves.

so now that you said goodbye to Delta Red, what is Ginzu's ghost thing called? more selfish endeavors by creating it?

EDIT and did anyone notice that the non-game characters in the rival schools part are actually custom characters from the U.S. game?

[arcticninja]

Picked it up yesterday and it's great!

The lack of Street Fighter comics in recent months is single-handedly responsible for me not showing up at my local comic store in forever.

and naturally, I had a pile of Green Lantern books waiting for me when I did go yesterday :razzy: