Fighting with Honor?

[FSgamer]

http://www.gamefaqs.com/coinop/arcade/game/575310.html

Akuma guide by JChristopher, Fighting with Honor Section.
No offense to anyone but that's probably the stupidest thing I've ever read.

[Just_D_it]

ha-ha-ha, yeah, this man just don't know a thing about how to win with Gouki..."DO NOT! USE A ZANKUU HADOUKEN (AIR FIREBALL) NOT EVEN IF YOUR 50c DEPENDED ON IT!" - these are the words of total scrub! I would like to see what game he plays w/o all the things he tells us not to do! Total lame!

[l337v1n337]

actually i think that guy is dead. so you wont see him play anymore.. but if i remember correctly, he is an st oldschooler or something. someone told me a long time ago but i forgot

[Gaijinblaze]

^ You sure you're not thinking of Kao Megura? His name was Chris so maybe you're mixing them up. Kao died I think about a year or two ago.

Every fighting game faq JChristopher has ever written is a joke. I thought everyone knew this.

[coreografo]

6) Do not throw. Akuma doesn't really rely on throwing, anyway. But still
don't be tempted to use it. It's a bad way to win.


this guy is a stupid scrub
if he can write a faq
I can be a president ....XD
excuse mi bad english

i am cheap all time becuase a throw to much ...XD

[andr3w]

1) Do not throw a fireball.
2) Do not throw an Shakunetsu Hadouken.
3) Use only the Messatsu Gou Rasen super.
4) Do not teleport.
5) Do not taunt.
6) Do not throw.
7) When crouching, use only either the HP or the MK and follow it up
with a combo.
8) Never be a defensive player.


All of these tactics can be punished if they are abused. But then again the same goes for any character. I think the author just doesn't understand how Akuma is supposed to be used in high-level play. No fireballs, throws = no mixup game. Messatsu Gou Rasen is garbage. Taunting after a roundhouse hurricaine increases damage for the next hit/combo by 43.8% and stun damage for the next hit/combo by 28.1%. Beginners who spam fireballs/hurricaines are liable to get punished not because the moves in of themselves are ineffective, but because using them in a pattern is predictable. I think he really should have made this clear.

[nanitaberu]

......You guys have no clue.

That FAQ is the bible of Akuma.

[cam347]

there is no fighting with honor when ur Akuma

[Murt!]

LMAO what a scrub

[thedude.com]

......You guys have no clue.

That FAQ is the bible of Akuma.


ditto.......

[FSgamer]

......You guys have no clue.

That FAQ is the bible of Akuma.
I wasn't critizing the guide as whole. That guide may have some good things but that "Fighting with Honor" section is simply ridiculous.

[Demon Dash]

That's almost as good as a quote from an A3 FAQ. Wait.....What was it? Oh, Sagat-c.hp: "Throws out a hard looking punch." :rolleyes:

[FSgamer]

That's almost as good as a quote from an A3 FAQ. Wait.....What was it? Oh, Sagat-c.hp: "Throws out a hard looking punch." :rolleyes:
Indeed.
Even worse is when people write something like "I don't know what this move is for" or "I don't know any combos, please e-mail me some" and I'm like: "well, if you don't know anything about the character why did you write a FAQ then?"

[HuGoLiZarD]

The guide was written 6 yrs ago. Plus a lot of ppl actually care more about just having fun rather than to play cheap/safe to win.

[inthesto]

After I read that guide, I played several honorable matches.

I didn't win any of them, but I did fix myself a nice sandwich after I unplugged my controller.

[l337v1n337]

oh yeah and is that the same guide where the author says he has never seen akuma's air throw and thinks it might not exist? If so, man i remember thinking i was an akuma god after reading that and be like HA i can do it. good times

[cureOne]

oh yeah and is that the same guide where the author says he has never seen akuma's air throw and thinks it might not exist? If so, man i remember thinking i was an akuma god after reading that and be like HA i can do it. good times

Okay I guess I'm a nub but how do you do akuma's air throw? I didn't know he had one (you aren't talking about the demon flip-throw right?)

[LakeEarth]

Just the :dp: :k:, then throw in the air. I think I read that faqs too.

[l337v1n337]

Okay I guess I'm a nub but how do you do akuma's air throw? I didn't know he had one (you aren't talking about the demon flip-throw right?)

yup, demon flip throw. not the chun-esque throw.

[HarmoNaz]

Here's irony for you - His Ryu and Akuma guides were the first things I ever read when I decided to learn 3s. He worded them so well, I really thought the guy was a pro, and had dreams of one day going and challenging him.

But yeah, I honestly did think the things he said were actually the holy verses of how to play shotos. Took me thousands upon thousands of matches to finally realise that the guy chats bollox. 6 EX donkey kicks with Ryu?? Two different versions of flip grab? Don't use such and such poke because [some more bullshit].

I'm doing my own faq. At the moment its specifically anti-Ken. I'll post it up here if any of you wanna read it.

[HarmoNaz]

Here's irony for you - His Ryu and Akuma guides were the first things I ever read when I decided to learn 3s. He worded them so well, I really thought the guy was a pro, and had dreams of one day going and challenging him.

But yeah, I honestly did think the things he said were actually the holy verses of how to play shotos. Took me thousands upon thousands of matches to finally realise that the guy chats bollox. 6 EX donkey kicks with Ryu?? Two different versions of flip grab? Don't use such and such poke because [some more bullshit].

I'm doing my own faq. At the moment its specifically anti-Ken. I'll post it up here if any of you wanna read it.

[Just_D_it]

I want to read this! Post it up!

[l337v1n337]

make an anti-yun one! or perhaps also one for akuma's worst non-top tier matchups

[HarmoNaz]

No worries. I'll post a draft when I have one ready, then just add to it as I go along.

Anti-Yun one will be the first after that since I think about that matchup a lot.

Other ones like Ibuki, Yang etc will have to wait.

Glad to see interest :tup:

[Lil' Josh]

ha-ha-ha, yeah, this man just don't know a thing about how to win with Gouki..."DO NOT! USE A ZANKUU HADOUKEN (AIR FIREBALL) NOT EVEN IF YOUR 50c DEPENDED ON IT!" - these are the words of total scrub! I would like to see what game he plays w/o all the things he tells us not to do! Total lame!

shit FAQ, I used to play akuma.. i got bored.. that's not the point...

WTF is this!! zankuu hadoken isnt that good unless used properly and a player barely finds the time to do it and a scrub is someon who abuses a cheap way to win/ glitches

EX: Shoto-scrub, Ky-Scrub.

[mio]

ha-ha-ha, yeah, this man just don't know a thing about how to win with Gouki..."DO NOT! USE A ZANKUU HADOUKEN (AIR FIREBALL) NOT EVEN IF YOUR 50c DEPENDED ON IT!" - these are the words of total scrub! I would like to see what game he plays w/o all the things he tells us not to do! Total lame!


It's funny that you say that because I was just about to write the same thing. I use that move almost every match.... and I'd say my hit percentage is about 90% with it.

You're most likely to hit using this when you jump at your opponent.... and near the time you hit the floor, they expect to srk/anti-air/parry, and then you hit em with the hadouken followed by this super.... it works for me almost every time.

[Four Clonez]

I don't really believe in the whole "fighting with honor" bit. To me, the air fireballs (and pretty much every other move that guy said not to use) are too important to my game with Akuma.

[JackTenrac!]

Agreed and welcome, Four Clonez. Why ruin a good thing?

It's there for a reason and every move in a fighting game is there for a reason (Paul Pheonix's broken Miracle Punch included), whether it be good or bad. Gouki's Tenma Hadou is a good arial and also makes a good kara move. So it would be hard to ignore applying it. Not applying it in your fight as Gouki could leave you at a disadvantage and a loss of an oppertunity. Mastering Gouki without the use of it should be considered a waste in itself.

arguably...this went well.

[HarmoNaz]

Its IMPOSSIBLE to win certain matchups without the air fireball e.g. Hugo

[XEN MASTER MARK]

I think the guy that wrote the FAQ has confused himself with the second Demon Flip throw that Akuma has in CvS2, but not in 3S.

It's painfully obvious the FAQ sucks when you reach the combo section and everything starts with jumping HK. Haha :)

[FSgamer]

It's painfully obvious the FAQ sucks when you reach the combo section and everything starts with jumping HK. Haha :)
Indeed.
Obviously, any decent player will know that j.HK is an optional extra attack and it probably won't work against a skilled opponent, but beginners will most likely have to learn that the hard way.

BTW, the other day I was playing a friend of mine who just started playing 3S. He used Akuma the whole time and interesting enough, he never used air fireballs, never used throws, never used teleports, etc. I told him about SRK, that there is a lot of info on 3S in here, etc, and he told me that he had read some guides from GameFaqs. I was like "hmm, I think I know exactly which guide you read."

[l337v1n337]

Its IMPOSSIBLE to win certain matchups without the air fireball e.g. Hugo

buuut for hugo.. technically cant you just get the first hit and then teleport the rest of the round?

[Tizoc]

there is no fighting with honor when ur Akuma
Yes there is- play Akuma with SA III.
Oh and BTW, anyone else noticed he didn't mention the word 'reset' in his FAQ?
.....but seriously can't this guy just re-do his FAQ again?

[HarmoNaz]

buuut for hugo.. technically cant you just get the first hit and then teleport the rest of the round?
:rofl: Yeah in theory you can. I doubt I have the skill to pull that off though. I might give it a try sometime to really annoy my opponent :rofl:

[DH020]

:rofl: Yeah in theory you can. I doubt I have the skill to pull that off though. I might give it a try sometime to really annoy my opponent :rofl:

but wot about if its a sa3 Hugo? if you try teleport past him, when he activates it, it will knock you out teleport and RAPE alot energy? (if im not mistaken)

[HarmoNaz]

whiff lk sa1 is just as easy. Trick is to annoy him to the max when he has no bar. When he has, you have to make teleports co-incide with moves or jumps from Hugo so that by the time he can do a super, you're far away.

[l337v1n337]

but either ways, ive been playing very little 3s recently so i think im moving to chun li as my main. sell out i know i know.. but if im not at the top of my game with akuma, i lose with akuma =(