Who the hell watches soccer?

[io]

first off, i played for a good 8 years. but if i'm not playing, that is the most boring sport i have ever watched :looney:

[catchafire]

You sound like a true American yankee. For your information, more people watch soccer than they watch American football. I have to admit that since i've moved from the caribbean it hasn't been as exciting, but when your emerged in the soccer culture, then it definately is! I mean, every country has it's own soccer league, tournaments, cups, the World Cup. There will be more people watching the world cup this summer than all the people who watched american sports this year comined. So stop asking stupid questions.

[The_Cheat]

Soccer is the most watched sport worldwide. Maybe it's just not your thing.

[tsumi]

hes just stupid

[io]

maybe if it had cheerleaders or somethin'

[Black Chanler]

Soccer sucks, fuck what the rest of the world thinks

[Silentness!]

Goooooooooooooooooooal

[SiLLiEMutAfuKA]

Watching soccer's boring? Damn you're missing out.

[WasFemto]

Watching soccer on the Spanish channel with my Uncle was a life changing experience. I remember trying to tell my friends what happens when the score and the just looked at me like I was crazy. Shit becoma a fad 6 years later but it's still all good.

[Million]

Well, the only cool thing related to this sport....besides the occasional riots that break out....is Mario Strikers. I'll have to get that, as it appears to be the first Soccer game I'd be interested in.

Soccer beats the hell out of baseball though, imo. Baseball is almost on the same level of dullsville as GOLF...now that's bad.

[io]

i guess it's a social thing. don't get me wrong, it's fun as hell to play...but watching...i don't get it

[maxx]

*flamebait alert* *flamebait alert*

soccer/football owns all sports worldwide..ya'll betta recognize.

[Khiempossible]

Soccer matches are intense. Are you sure you're watching the right game?

[FreddyL0c0]

what is so hard to understand....either ure entertained by it or not. U dont have to watch it.

Im not gonna go ahead and make a "I hate watcing baseball" thread, cause I know people enjoy it regardless of what i'll say.


heres a good site for watching recent goals throughout the world.

http://www.latestgoals.net/index.php

[catchafire]

Well, there are differest styles of soccer played around the world. If you only have access to American style football then you will think it boring because they play in a sort of text book fashion. If you watch Brazilian style soccer, then it's definately more exciting to watch. Just think of the NBA in the 1950s compared to what it is today. I mean, you can cross someone in soccer JUST like you can in the NBA. That's fun isn't it?

[FatalFuryD]

Soccer, any variations of Tennis, anything in Track and Field, Gymnastics and Golf are more boring to watch than other sports. That doesn't mean there won't be quality games though. I'm mad looking forward to world cup this year.

[H_Magnus]

Futebol > All other sports combined.

[Einlanzer]

altho i never play the sport anymore, my mexican instincts want me to play it alot more frequently, too bad there's no one around here thats willing to kick the soccerball around with me :sad:

soccer's alot more intense if you watch it with a group of fanatics. very entertaining.

especially true with my mexican/latino/spanish brethren.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL LLLLLLLLLLLLL

[FreddyL0c0]

Soccer, any variations of Tennis, anything in Track and Field, Gymnastics and Golf are more boring to watch than other sports. That doesn't mean there won't be quality games though. I'm mad looking forward to world cup this year.


to fall asleep?

[Serp's Attorney]

How come when anyone criticizes soccer, some idiot always babbles that it's "the most watched" sport in the world? Who cares what the rest of the world does or thinks? What's the age of consent for most of the world, like 12? Should we start fucking and marrying 12 year old girls now? Doesn't most of the world also refuse to bathe? Would not bathing be a good idea? And what religion does most of the world speak? Maybe we should abandon all other languages, and just go for the majority! So dumb.

I have yet to actually see any hard data for that anyway. The entire world watches the Super Bowl. Either the rest of the world listens to World Cup games on the radio, or theres no way more people actually pay attention to the world cup games. The Super Bowl is the single most watched EVENT IN THE WORLD! That means that theres no way more people can "watch" a World Cup game on television, or else the world cup game would be the most watched!

Can't we ban mexicans and other inferior cultures off this site? The only people that like soccer are those with an IQ below 100. And yeah, most non-civilized people will probably fit into that category. I don't know why you idiots can't just stage gladiatoral combat in your inferior countries. Then atleast the rest of us could be entertained as well.

[WasFemto]

How come when anyone criticizes soccer, some idiot always babbles that it's "the most watched" sport in the world? Who cares what the rest of the world does or thinks? What's the age of consent for most of the world, like 12? Should we start fucking and marrying 12 year old girls now? Doesn't most of the world also refuse to bathe? Would not bathing be a good idea? And what religion does most of the world speak? Maybe we should abandon all other languages, and just go for the majority! So dumb.

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Yes, yes we should. :tup:

[crimzonflame]

soccer is for pussies

[FatalFuryD]

lol.. serpent's bored I guess

[zxcv_87]

Soccer is the best sport in the world. Lot sof people play it , it got s simple conecpt that everyone can relate too. You don't need sticks or equipment to play. It shows off the true power of ones body. Can it be boring too watch? Ya it is slow paced, but damm its intense. If you guys ever played it before you should be able to enjoy watching it. Man i go insane when my team scores a goal. I celebrate for the whole game! Drink some beer and watch with your friends to increase your enjoyment of the game. :)

[Hanzo_Hattori]

Doesn't most of the world also refuse to bathe?

wtf? And what religion does most of the world speak?
i understand you're just ranting at this point but i'd like to point out that you speak a language, not a religion.

[dceptak0n]

Fuck whiny bitches. Soccer/Futbol is about control and team work. A lot of mini-battles to gain that precious goal against a worthy opponent.

Every sport has its strategy deeper than those who aren't willing to accept it think it goes. I can't look down on any sport because of the common understanding that there's too much fundamental shit that will never be understood unless countless hours are spent learning it firsthand. Table Tennis? Raquetball? Boxing? Jai Alai? Street Fighter? etc…

Like any other taste in entertainment, it has to spark something in your own interest and exposure, so if you dig pigskin football, MMA, or whatever, that's what you'll be attracted too. Stop being elite cock suckers. Be and let be, bitches.

[Kalypso]

Soccer sucks, fuck what the rest of the world thinks
I'm glad you think your opinion is in favor of 8 billion other peoples, you must be enlightened. Dumbfuck.

[Waggs313]

soccer is for pussies
Youve obviously never played it. Soccer takes the most physical endurance over any fuckin sport. Fuck NFL shit, Watch EPL!

[Ryu & Ken]

Football is the best sport there is, man the World cup 2006 will be great

[phontain]

It's pretty much like this: how many people watch soccer is irrelevent. Soccer just rules. It's not a matter of opinion.

[JackTenrac!]

How come when anyone criticizes soccer, some idiot always babbles that it's "the most watched" sport in the world? Who cares what the rest of the world does or thinks? What's the age of consent for most of the world, like 12? Should we start fucking and marrying 12 year old girls now? Doesn't most of the world also refuse to bathe? Would not bathing be a good idea? And what religion does most of the world speak? Maybe we should abandon all other languages, and just go for the majority! So dumb.

I have yet to actually see any hard data for that anyway. The entire world watches the Super Bowl. Either the rest of the world listens to World Cup games on the radio, or theres no way more people actually pay attention to the world cup games. The Super Bowl is the single most watched EVENT IN THE WORLD! That means that theres no way more people can "watch" a World Cup game on television, or else the world cup game would be the most watched!

Can't we ban mexicans and other inferior cultures off this site? The only people that like soccer are those with an IQ below 100. And yeah, most non-civilized people will probably fit into that category. I don't know why you idiots can't just stage gladiatoral combat in your inferior countries. Then atleast the rest of us could be entertained as well.

Serpent is back...

...that went well.

[WasFemto]

Who else would be stupid enough to say "the entire world watches the Super Bowl"?

[aktham]

Soccer/football and basketball are the best sports

soccer comes first because that's what i started playing. Topic creator i understand your pain if you watched MLS soccer. I watched this one game (was VERY bored) and i could swear i was watching a rugby game. Americans tend to be physical to make up for the skill and talent. That's why US can beat central american teams and african teams, because they can just overpower those guys. When it come to playing big teams (germany, england and brasil) that phyical stuff won't work and they will lose due to lacking skill and talent.

Try watching world cup this year, if that doesn't catch your interest nothing will.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

The Super Bowl is the single most watched EVENT IN THE WORLD!



No it isn't.



Most of you probably think football is boring because of the crappy ass league and level of play over here in America. MLS is the worst thing i've ever seen on TV

[marcusg]

In some countries you will get killed for saying soccor is stupid.

[hubcapsignstop]

Soccer, any variations of Tennis, anything in Track and Field, Gymnastics and Golf are more boring to watch than other sports. That doesn't mean there won't be quality games though. I'm mad looking forward to world cup this year.
personally i find (any variation of) tennis, some track and field, and gymnastics to be the most entertaining sports to watch. And i am primarily a gridiron fan.

[xDarKnighTx]

Soccer is the best sport in the world. Lot sof people play it , it got s simple conecpt that everyone can relate too. You don't need sticks or equipment to play. It shows off the true power of ones body. Can it be boring too watch? Ya it is slow paced, but damm its intense. If you guys ever played it before you should be able to enjoy watching it. Man i go insane when my team scores a goal. I celebrate for the whole game! Drink some beer and watch with your friends to increase your enjoyment of the game. :)you can say the same thing for basketball, except it isn't slow paced most of the time.

In some countries you will get killed for saying soccor is stupid.
wasn't there a player a few years back that got killed when he went back to his country, just because he missed a foul shot which costed them the game?

[hubcapsignstop]

people dont mess around in foreign countries when it comes to soccer
heads scoring owngoals get shot, bad refs get shot

when i lived in Scotland and played soccer in an under 12 youth league, we had writeups of all our games in the local paper, and sometimes our pictures would showup next to the articles. It was crazy. And for the supercup (championship) we played in the local highland games stadium (other age levels had their championships in the stadium at different times in the same day). It was a small stadium but the place was full of drunk people chanting our teams names in those songs they sing and cussing and stomping and shit.
and we were just 11-12 year olds.

Soccer is like some kind of religion or something in other countries.

*eidt: but i dont watch it on TV or anything. I personally find sports are kind of boring to watch in general, except ,of course, tennis and gymnastics and shit.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

wasn't there a player a few years back that got killed when he went back to his country, just because he missed a foul shot which costed them the game?

Yeah a player from Columbia, Andre Escobar, scored in his own teams goal by accident and that goal got Columbia knocked out of the World Cup in USA '94. Ten days later, back home in Medellin, Columbia he was shot 12 times in the chest, execution-style, by an angry fan.

[CrotchMonkey]

Go Iran, got to win it baby.

[gbursine]

baseball is boring as shit. hell, you goto a game, and they have all this side shit happening during the game, because they KNOW that their game is boring as shit.


soccer>hockey>lax>curling>the rest

[solidfox]

Soccer is the world's most played sport. To even make a thread like this truly means you're bored. If you don't like soccer thats your problem.

[Hyuga]

While i don't love soccer,it is certaily more entertaining than baseball. I mean seriously,wtf happens in baseball?

[FreddyL0c0]

guys guys, obviously serpent's right. Hes just stating is own opinion about a sport he cant comprehend.....or doesnt want to care for...so its okay if he bashes hispanics and the rest of the world in a spit of fury just to stir shit up in a thread that never should have been conceived anyways.

[Chozen1]

baseball = 7th inning stretch= WTF, football = halftime= 1st and 10 + more = bitches for breaks soccer = 45 (sometimes 48 minutes) break for 5 minutes, play another 45 minutes non stop no breaks. either win, lose or tie. if the latter occurs, then even more time. done

[VG Emblem]

I'm Brazilian. It's in my genes that I have to love soccer. I mean like, in Brazil saying soccer sucks will nearly get you killed, it's scary how much my country is obsessed with that sport. Yet I don't really like soccer. It's alright to play, but watching it has to be the most boring shit I've ever seen. I do not understand how almost every singly Brazilian person loves to watch it so much. Back in 2004 during the Fifa World Cup, no joke, families that my family knew would seriously wake up at 4 AM to watch a game happening in the afternoon in Tokyo. There were kids, 4 year olds, and they would happily get up and glue themselves to the screen to watch the game. It's scary.

I must say though, I do have respect for the soccer players. Soccer has to be the most tiring and exhausting sport in existence. A good player has to run around the entire field all through the entire game, staying on the field for almost the entire duration of the game. Yeah, I'm kinda happy I really don't partake in sports...

[EveryFlowerFlow]

I must say though, I do have respect for the soccer players. Soccer has to be the most tiring and exhausting sport in existence. A good player has to run around the entire field all through the entire game, staying on the field for almost the entire duration of the game.

for real, a player called Roy Keane once covered about 14 miles during a game. crazy stuff

[Chozen1]

i rest my case o_O

[WasFemto]

To defend baseball(sort of...). I went to Mariners game(the third game against the White Sox) and had a ton of fun. It probably helped I was sitting next to some Ichiro fans that were into the game and the chick I was sitting next to was cute, but for once I had fun and contemplated buying season tickets next year if I move up to Seattle. The first time I had fun at a game so it's not TOTALLY worthless.

[Gumbercules]

Soccer is the best, but I only watch the world cup because other tournaments are too much shit to keep track of

[VG Emblem]

for real, a player called Roy Keane once covered about 14 miles during a game. crazy stuff
14 miles? Holy shit. I've heard of some impressive stuff, but this just tramples everything else. I bet for most people that could've resulted in a heart attack due to exhaustion, must've been a tough guy...

[mvsc2demon]

To defend baseball(sort of...). I went to Mariners game(the third game against the White Sox) and had a ton of fun. It probably helped I was sitting next to some Ichiro fans that were into the game and the chick I was sitting next to was cute, but for once I had fun and contemplated buying season tickets next year if I move up to Seattle. The first time I had fun at a game so it's not TOTALLY worthless.
Agree. My first time going to an Baseball game was last year. Astros vs Mets. In person the experience is worthwhile. Everyone was booing Beltran like crazy, having fun, drinking beer!

[Troyboy's Back!]

Soccer is just as Gay as Hockey.......so it must be Bad!

[Million]

What's up with the crazy soccer hooligans? That's another odd thing there....why do people get that crazed/stupid over a damn sport? If a riot broke out with tons of people getting trampled to death, fires everywhere, all kinds of destruction of property, etc.....there's a 96% the game in question that incited all this was a soccer game. Look at the typical football fanatics--an example of an overboard crazy football fan is simply one of those fat guys that paints his body in the teams colors, and the most he will do is probably get removed from the stadium because he go drunk and yelled too much or something. Basketball fanatics--they'll wear the jerseys/whatever as everyday clothing, and get all excited for March Madness...but not excited enough to burn down cities. Baseball? eh, they might throw a few things out on the field....I guess. Not much to get fanatical about there(ohhh snap! another cheapshot! I luv it.).

But the soccer fans....what's wrong with these people? They seem genuinely obsessed about the game to the point where it's actually dangerous to be around them. Is it even possible for them to realize this is just a sport? It's just...live entertainment. If you're not actually on the field trying to win that trophy, it shouldn't be that damn serious that you're ready to murder the refs.

[Lantis]

Whoever said soccer is only appealing to third-world countries need to stop soiling their American underwear and stop thinking that "American-made" sports are the "be-all/end-all" of sports (and correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't the US been schooled BAD at the latest basketball and baseball world competitions?).

Soccer is watched everywhere, from poor-ass countries like Togo to first-class countries like England or France. The game has a long-standing tradition of AT LEAST 250 years (or probably even more if you consider the common origins among soccer, football, and rugby). When on the streets, you can see anyone play soccer by using all sorts of stuff for the goalies (like 2 buckets or 2 rocks) and use all sorts of shit as a ball (I've seen rolled paper, soda cans, and even trash can lids used). In some countries, soccer has transcended a sport and has become more into a lifestyle for some people. And not all of them live in huts or gutters.

Sure, you have some hardcore basketball fans or extreme football fanboys, but who else has a GOD? Well, believe it or not....for some strange reason, down in Argentina, there's a religion based on the worship of star player Diego A. Maradona, using his own autobiography as their bible (which is kinda logical considering that Argentina is place to the craziest soccer fans in the whole world, bar none. Riots, killings, and lots of crazy shit).

Maybe some of you know A-Rod or T.O. or even Kobe, but the whole world knows players like Ronaldinho, Zidane, Beckham, etc.

As it is, I don't have a problem with people who don't like soccer. I can see if it's not their cup of tea, but if you're gonna diss it because it's a sport only underprivileged people play, you're waaaaaaay off your mark.

[bill_rizer]

Cricket, Rugby world cups? no sorry,

like I say theirs only ONE world cup.

Football makes the world go round, the world cup final is the most watched sporting event ever, screw ya super balls not half as much care for that.

Not bad for a sport that sucks, I bet if you americans were good at it, you wouldnt say it sucked so much.

[snakedizzle209]

I find soccer to be really boring, but then again I think american football and baseball are just as boring. Now basketball is a sport though, but even then I choose not to watch the games unless it's a big game and my teams are involved.

Soccer wouldnt be half bad if they always did those flashy backflip kicks and scored a lot more often, but then again there wouldnt be those long screams of.....

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLL L !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[VG Emblem]

What's up with the crazy soccer hooligans? That's another odd thing there....why do people get that crazed/stupid over a damn sport? If a riot broke out with tons of people getting trampled to death, fires everywhere, all kinds of destruction of property, etc.....there's a 96% the game in question that incited all this was a soccer game. Look at the typical football fanatics--an example of an overboard crazy football fan is simply one of those fat guys that paints his body in the teams colors, and the most he will do is probably get removed from the stadium because he go drunk and yelled too much or something. Basketball fanatics--they'll wear the jerseys/whatever as everyday clothing, and get all excited for March Madness...but not excited enough to burn down cities. Baseball? eh, they might throw a few things out on the field....I guess. Not much to get fanatical about there(ohhh snap! another cheapshot! I luv it.).

But the soccer fans....what's wrong with these people? They seem genuinely obsessed about the game to the point where it's actually dangerous to be around them. Is it even possible for them to realize this is just a sport? It's just...live entertainment. If you're not actually on the field trying to win that trophy, it shouldn't be that damn serious that you're ready to murder the refs.
Sadly, very sadly, I know exactly what you mean. Like I said, I am Brazilian, and they are the most soccer crazy people around. Along with the Greeks, who alot of the times become family friends somehow. So basically I know very very well enough how bad and uncivilized these people can get.
However, there is a reason somewhat of why people get so crazy over soccer compared to other sports. Other sports are generally state VS state, while soccer is usually country VS country. So people naturally get carried away, because they think all of their country's pride rests in a GAME. Which is crazy, stupid, uncivilized, and barbaric in my opinion. So yeah, maybe that explains it a bit more and just remember that even though my people are usually the culprits, I take no part in this and think that it is rather stupid.

[Hokuto no Jeffro]

With baseball and soccer, it's all about being at the game. What makes baseball so great is the catcalls of the crowd, the vendors screaming out peanuts and icees, and the mellow baritone of Vin Scully. I'd imagine soccer is the same way.

[Kyoujin]

(and correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't the US been schooled BAD at the latest basketball and baseball world competitions?).


:rofl: The USA lost to Canada in baseball! Canada, for fuck sakes.

Soccer is really the only sport I get excited about; Every time the World Cup rolls around is the only time I show interest in sports.

[Airthrow]

I guess DOA is a better game than Streetfighter because more dumbfucks play it.

Dumbfucks.

[Lantis]

I guess DOA is a better game than Streetfighter because more dumbfucks play it.

Dumbfucks.

That comparison isn't really accurate in this thread. It would be more like saying "Final Fantasy is better than Street Fighter because more people play it".

[Airthrow]

That comparison isn't really accurate in this thread. It would be more like saying "Final Fantasy is better than Street Fighter because more people play it".

You have a lot of people specifically saying Soccer/futbol is better than ____ (American sport A, B or C) because more people watch them worldwide. Considering the only sport I care enough about to watch is MMA (which could be considered Greek, Brazillian or Japanese in Origin depending on how you look at it) I really am not very biased even though I'm an American.

Popularity can suck my dick, the game is boring as fuck.

[Lantis]

You have a lot of people specifically saying Soccer/futbol is better than ____ (American sport A, B or C) because more people watch them worldwide. Considering the only sport I care enough about to watch is MMA (which could be considered Greek, Brazillian or Japanese in Origin depending on how you look at it) I really am not very biased even though I'm an American.

That's the point I wanted to reach.

Some people say that soccer is better than, say, football, when they are 2 totally different sports based on popularity alone.

That's where I put in my analogy of Final Fantasy being better than SF even though they are 2 totally different genres (again, with popularity being a huge factor).

[Mystic_bash]

Watching soccer's boring? Damn you're missing out.
I dont really think its boring...Its just that I'd rather play it then watch people play it.

[mvsc2demon]

If a riot broke out with tons of people getting trampled to death, fires everywhere, all kinds of destruction of property, LOOTING etc.....there's a 96% the game in question that incited all this was a soccer game.

True, the other 4% can only be caused by a big hurricane in New Orleans, *cough*Katrina*cough*

[jreinert13]

Soccer is beyond sport. You can't compare soccer to football, basketball, baseball etc. because it's not even fair.Soccer captures more passion, intensity, excitement, importance and dedication than any other sport by a loooong shot.
Just look at the goals. The act of scoring usually involves such a massive build-up of teamwork, excecution and tactics that it's occurance is very rare and is celebrated to a much greater scale than any other sport.

I've played many sports competively and soccer is the only one where a player with higher game intelligence excels over one with higher physical capabilities (much unlike basketball, hockey, baseball and football where physicality dominates for the most part).

[lonewolf6465]

World Cup has made me love this sport.

[hubcapsignstop]

game intelligence?
is that anything like skill?
hahaa

[jreinert13]

game intelligence?
is that anything like skill?
hahaa

without a technical name in front of it: skill is a very general term. It's an aggregate of all the techniques involved in the game.
So game-intelligence would be a component of skill.

[FragMasterGen]

i dont mind watching if there are world class atheletes on the field, which means no MLS. but i am enjoying the world cup a whole lot... good stuff

[L1qu1d]

i'm american and i watch soccer(well only the world cup)

[hubcapsignstop]

game intelligence?
i think that is the "aggregate term"
soccer dont got plays to remember, hahaa
its all peice-meal instinct
fuckers with skill represent, those without dead to world
just because you love soccer dont try and tell me soccer players are smarter than other atheletes. True, other sports you may have to be bigger to be a force to be reckoned with but that doesnt preclude any role of intellegence. Even in these other sports the biggest arent the best. You thinnk pro soccer players know their own game better than other pros know their own game? i dont buy it

[Einlanzer]

this one time i wore a "chivas" hat at a local mexican store, then yelled "CHIVAS!!!"

and the mexican hooligans started yelling profanities at me :sad:

....go chivas??:confused:

[Soundbwoy]

My fav sport is college football, but I started paying more attention to soccer during World Cup 2002. Its definitely an exciting game when played by the right people. What I like most about it is the set ups to score. I love the strategy in that.

What I can't stand at times is the U.S. sports media. They'll be happy to talk about hockey, poker championships, and race cars, but they'll shit all over soccer. Then they have the nerve to talk golf. GOLF!!!. Talking about a bunch of middle aged dudes swinging clubs, c'mon.

[ROCKMAN]

Football>>>>>>>American toss ball *NFL* thing.. at least we use the freaking legs along with the objective of the sport which is the damn ball.American football is just a imitation of rugby with shoulder pads and stuff. I like both sports but soccer is above all in the whole world. IF u don't know jack about it STFU!

[The Mullah]

football is great to watch when it comes to the world cup and euro cup, apart from that i dont find it interesting enough to watch.

also there's no way football requires a higher level of fitness than boxing etc. no way.

[Septimus Prime]

Yo <3 futbol, bitches.

[Juggy]

I've never actually met someone who has watched a soccer game or ever mentioned soccer. Weird, as popular as it is.

[P. Gorath]

Soccer is beyond sport. You can't compare soccer to football, basketball, baseball etc. because it's not even fair.Soccer captures more passion, intensity, excitement, importance and dedication than any other sport by a loooong shot.

yeah, love all the intensity and excitement of those 0-0 final scores

[EveryFlowerFlow]

yeah, love all the intensity and excitement of those 0-0 final scores


yeah, because all games end 0-0 :rolleyes:

[P. Gorath]

yeah, because all games end 0-0 :rolleyes:
the fact that they can is proof enough

[Million]

Since this seems to be the more popular/established thread...copy/paste time:

I think it's the other way around with americans sucking at the game. Americans suck at that game most likely because we, generally speaking of course, simply don't care about it in the first place. For example...I'm mostly like the worst poker player in the world...because I couldn't possibly care less about any card game, as they bore me to tears. I don't think it's even hate....we just don't care about it at all. I certainly don't. The most entertaining thing about it to me are the occasional violence(because soccer fans...generally speaking...are fuckin NUTS. They will start a war over that shit.)...and the funny moments where the announcer will scream "goallllllllllll!".(*and those moments seem to be few and far between, btw...since it's such a pathetically low scoring game....one of the many reasons already mentioned for why we don't care. Oooh...a final score of...3 to 2. Oh gee, how exciting is that? I'm RIVETED at the display of the ball being kicked/headbutted around a giant ass field forever with NO scoring going on. No score. None. Nan. Nathaniel.)

[EveryFlowerFlow]

the fact that they can is proof enough


proof of what? it depends on the competition.

[ckrazy]

Football>>>>>>>American toss ball *NFL* thing.. at least we use the freaking legs along with the objective of the sport which is the damn ball.American football is just a imitation of rugby with shoulder pads and stuff. I like both sports but soccer is above all in the whole world. IF u don't know jack about it STFU!

... you blame american football for having pads? i wanna see a LB charge ur ass w/o pads and see what happens

[Roxie]

I watch...but I can't watch more than one in a row...which isn't much of a row.

[Chozen1]

this whole thread is a fucking joke. soccer is boring; tis comedy and yet, for you to say that you played it for 8 yrs, u contradict yourself.

[SCOTT POPULAR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ROCKMAN
Football>>>>>>>American toss ball *NFL* thing.. at least we use the freaking legs along with the objective of the sport which is the damn ball.American football is just a imitation of rugby with shoulder pads and stuff. I like both sports but soccer is above all in the whole world. IF u don't know jack about it STFU!


... you blame american football for having pads? i wanna see a LB charge ur ass w/o pads and see what happens

LOL! I play american football here in Japan with a bunch of Aussie, New Zealand, Japanese and a handful of English Rugby and Soccer players! 80% of them quit. I was that LB/DE! Me and the kid from Pittsburg was doing people! That old U.S. Speartackling Muscle on that ass!

But we switch up the sports often. So one week soccer another week rubgy. So on and so on. And I will admit. When we played soccer and I scored my first goal. "I was like HELLZ YEAH! USA! USA! USA!" But they weren't liking that too much. So I got louder!:rofl:

(HIGH FIVE :rock: )

[nothingxs]

yeah, love all the intensity and excitement of those 0-0 final scores

I fucking hate these goddamned statements. Have you watched two good teams go at it and come out 0-0? Those matches are very intense and exciting, sometimes even moreso than high-scoring matches (or blowouts).

For those of you people who look at Soccer and go "lol sux":

First, for those of you who prefer other sports: that's nice. Now shut the hell up. Yes, soccer fans are frequently annoying. Yes, the French don't have Big Gulps. This doesn't mean that you have to constantly whine about how awful soccer is or how better the sport you prefer is. It makes you just as bad as the socceristas that drive you nuts in the first place. In summary: not liking soccer is fine. Constantly talking about how (much) you dislike soccer is chump-style.

Second, I'm going to skip over the rules portion of the sport. There are plenty of places that you can read about it, including Wikipedia. Don't worry if you don't get the offside rule at first. As you can see from many of the replays during the World Cup, most of the assistant referees still haven't mastered it.

Many people who can't watch or dislike soccer identify the lack of scoring as the main problem, as if the sport exists in an unwatchable state unless the ball is entering into the goal. The most typical comment is that "nothing is happening".

This is almost always complete horseshit. There's usually something happening, it's just not regarded as "significant" if it doesn't immediately lead to scoring by someone who doesn't have anything else to to hang their hat on. Now, the most basic aspect of soccer is space. For the team who has the ball, the object is to move the ball (and hence the players) into space, as the more space a player has, the more time he has.

The best players can do wonderous things when given space (see: Gerrard's goal yesterday versus Trinidad & Tobago) and can operate in tight spaces as though they were in the open field (see: Ronaldinho).

So the object for the defensive team has to be to restrict space, to allow the offensive team to play the ball to a position where it will become easier for the defense to recover the ball and reverse the roles.

There are several basic strategies on both sides of the ball. I'll use the England - Trinidad & Tobago game as an example, because the strategies being used were fairly simplistic.

Strategies

T&T

Without the ball: On defense, T&T allowed the English players to have time on the ball, so far as they were more than 30 yards away from their goal. Within that 30 yards (or the "defensive third", as it is known), the T&T players would move quickly to close down the player with the ball (i.e. get close to him) and would force play toward the sides of the field. There were also quite happy to simply play the ball out of bounds rather than attempt to retain possession in 50-50 situations (situations so named because there is a supposedly equal chance for either team to come away with possession).

With the ball: T&T's offensive strategy consisted mainly of getting the ball quickly to the player closest to the English goal, who would then attempt to advance the ball as fast as he could into the offensive third. Two or three other T&T players would join in and the object would be to try and generate a scoring chance before the English could get players back towards their goal.

England

Without the ball: Although it's hard to say exactly what England's strategy was on defense since they had the ball the majority of the match, they showed a tendency to pressure the player with the ball, regardless of where the player was on the field, hoping to force the T&T players into making a mistake and gifting England possession.

With the ball: England's main strategy when faced with the extreme defensive tactics of the T&T squad was to play the ball out to the wings (which is where they were being given space) and then either play the ball into the box with a cross (which is how they eventually scored) or to advance the ball and either attempt to cut the ball inside toward the goal or run into space toward the endline for a more advanced cross. When there was not space to either advance the ball or cross it, England would play the ball back to the defenders, who would then pass to the other wing, the idea being that forcing the defense to change positions would cause some of them to make mistakes, opening up space for an attack.

Overall

The combination of these two strategies created one of the classic soccer matchups, the team playing the possession game, switching the field, etc. versus the counter-attacking team, happy to bunker in front of the goal and try their luck on some fast-breaks.

The strategies of both teams were of course affected by the strategy of the other team as well as by the formations used by both. For example, if England was denying space for the ground-based breakout passes when T&T had the ball by playing further back (and thus giving more time to the player with the ball), T&T may have resorted to the "long-ball" (or "Route One football" if you're British ("Drillo-ball" if you're Norwegian)) tactic of hitting the ball through the air towards the opposition's goal in the hope that luck or a single good play will result in an opening.

And when England made their substitutions at the end of the game in their desperation for a goal, they brought on a wide midfielder for a defender, changing their formation from the classic English 4-4-2 (four defenders, four midfielders, two forwards) to something that more closely resembled a 2-6-2, moving up their wing defenders into the midfield, as T&T wasn't attacking that space anyway.

As you get more and more into the complexity of strategy and formation, the understanding of the back and forth of the game is increased and usually, the enjoyment of watching a game.

This is not to say that there aren't boring soccer games. There are! Immensely boring games in fact, just like every other damn sport out there. I'm sorry, I really don't think that a 10-7 meaningless game between the Browns and the Ravens or a 2-0 game between the Diamondbacks and the Royals is really that much more exciting than the stereotypical 0-0 draw in soccer. If it's a bad game, it's a bad game and there's nothing wrong with deciding you'd rather do something else.

Like, say, write a post on a sports blog. About sports. Shit, somebody please score.

There's shit going on in those 0-0 games of yours. That doesn't always mean that the 0-0 games are good games, but it also doesn't mean those 3-2 games are very exciting, either.

This whole "the fact a game can end 0-0 is proof enough" is fucking irritating. Every time a person says that stupid shit, I want to choke them. I'm not a HUGE soccer fan (well, I am now, #streamtv subscription for European League Club games FTW! GOGO CHELSEA) but I know my shit and I know what goes on in the games and I can APPRECIATE what goes on in the games. There's a method to the madness in formations, in specific tactics used, in marking and traps (you should understand this side better if you like Basketball, for example), in controlling space -- there's a lot of shit that goes on in soccer besides GOOOOOOOOOOOOAL.

That said: my respects to American Football too. There's OBVIOUSLY skill in that shit too, and you DO have to work as a team to get far. And it's bullshit that in one or the other of the sports you need to be more individually awesome to get shit done. I think the only sport that can be considered guilty of requiring almost mostly individual talent is Baseball, and even then there's teamwork involved. However, for someone to say there's no tactics or that "game intelligence" isn't a required skill in American Football or Basketball is horseshit. You need to know what the fuck is up. You also have to be physically impressive in ALL these kinds of sports, particularly when it comes to fitness (another area where Baseball allows you to be kind of be lax in -- not by much, I figure).

[genocide]

Whats wrong with low scoring games exactly? Basketball is boring for me cos teams score every minute.

the reason people go so mental over a gola in football is cos it doesnt happen *that* often compared to most US sports.

And rugby>american football easily. Rugby players dont get breathers and to sit down every few minutes.

All threads like this do is confirm stereotypes about american sports fans having no attention span.

[Khiempossible]

I was gonna post something about low scoring and why people think it's stupid, but I belive it's already been nicely covered. Instead I'm going to say that the blog post nothingxs posted reminds me of why SF2 >>>>> SF3. Which let's me say something stupid like football/soccer haters must also hate SF2 for the same reason.

[SNAAAAKE]

I feel the exact same way about football. bunch of big dudes in tights running into each other yelling "HUAHHH" :confused:

[Damacy]

It's like baseball. You're not supposed to actually watch it. You're supposed to drink and bullshit while it goes down. Then get into random barfights with fans of the opposing team afterwards.

[ruthless_nash]

soccer owns all you hatin motherfuckers for free!!!! :D

[TheRealNeoGeo]

Go see Green Street Hooligans, it is about firms in England...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385002/

[jreinert13]

game intelligence?
i think that is the "aggregate term"
soccer dont got plays to remember, hahaa
its all peice-meal instinct
fuckers with skill represent, those without dead to world
just because you love soccer dont try and tell me soccer players are smarter than other atheletes. True, other sports you may have to be bigger to be a force to be reckoned with but that doesnt preclude any role of intellegence. Even in these other sports the biggest arent the best. You thinnk pro soccer players know their own game better than other pros know their own game? i dont buy it

When did I ever claim soccer players are smarter than other athletes?
Did you not get the point? The game itself is more rewarding of it's intelligent players than others (from my experience and analysis). What the hell does that have to do with soccer players being smarter than other athletes..or soccer players knowing their own game better than other athletes? PLease if you need a better explanation just let me know.
Yea 'game intelligence' is for sure an aggregate term; but not at a higher aggregate as skill: which was my point. Skill/ability is probably the most general term involving a particular player's attributes.

[jreinert13]

yeah, love all the intensity and excitement of those 0-0 final scores

Actually yes. I've watched many 0-0 games that were very entertaining (although that scoreline doesn't happen often at all outside the italian league). That's the whole point: the game's attraction's exist within the game and how it is played. Why does there have to be a 40-32 scoreline in order for a sport to be exciting? That's incredibly superficial imo. Personally, I watch sports for a lot more reasons than the 'score'.
Is it impossible to understand that a game can actually contain intensity and excitement if there are no goals? If so, I would loove to hear an explaination as to why that is.

[evilmuffinmanX]

Who the hell watches soccer?

start fucking and marrying 12 year old girls now? refuse to bathe?

now thats anwsered we can close this bitch! :tup:

[Jaldaboath]

I'm mexican, soccer here is more important than religion, people here care less if you're jewish than if you're an "pumas" fan, cheering the wrong team can get you pummeled. I've watched soccer since before I could talk, I played all through elementary school, I was teached the strategy and the theory. I've watched tons of matches and followed several player's careers.

I hate that boring game.

Extenuating? Yea, run for hours, that's exhausting too.

Rough? You've obviously not played unequiped Football or Rugby with mexicans.

Interesting? Pro-soccer? nah, it's full of turtlers, I dunno how you people like it but hate on Justin's Chun. Street matches with no clock are waaaay more interesting. I guess the ads did get in your heads.

Popular world-wide? Of course, with the billions of dolars spent on advertising it better be, it singlehandedly keeps entire nations from rebeling. I've seen it happen just in front of me.
Pro-tip : Coke and Britney Spears are also popular world-wide.

Strategical? Not at pro levels, the only thing you, as a pro-player gotta watch is putting up a good show and getting the score as it should be according to what was agreed beforehand. If I'm watching staged shit I rather watch wrestling, at least they are more honest about that. There whole federations are corrupted, mexican government spends millions every world cup to insure we get to quarters so it can distract people during voting season.

It's like baseball. You're not supposed to actually watch it. You're supposed to drink and bullshit while it goes down. Then get into random barfights with fans of the opposing team afterwards.
99.999% of the people who watch soccer don't understand a damn thing of what happens in court. Beleive me. This is the only reason to watch it. Separatism.

But I'll agree that as a sport to play on the street with your buddys it rocks.

[angryliberal]

i can't believe i just read this entire thread. what a waste of fucking space. if you love a sport watch it and love it. why are people always trying to justify their actions or preferences by saying they are better than someone elses? soccer, imho, is fun to watch. i love a good soccer match. i don't think low scoring games are any indication of a boring sport. i also love to watch a good golf match or a great american football game. personally, i find baseball and hockey boring. you know why? cuz i'm not that interested in em. i have friends who would choose baseball as the one sport to watch if they had to choose only one. its just what you like. all those guys playing those sports are very good at what they do. skill wise, they all take a very high level of understanding your sport. popularity, scoring, brutality, whatever doesn't really matter if you don't like the sport. its like saying more people like blondes than brunettes, so you should like blondes...its stu[id. watch what you like and stop trying to justify it to everyone else...

[Jaldaboath]

i can't believe i just read this entire thread. what a waste of fucking space. if you love a sport watch it and love it. why are people always trying to justify their actions or preferences by saying they are better than someone elses?
Small dick complex.


Just for the record I didn't say people that play or like soccer are worst than people who like X, I just ranted about how bad professional soccer sucks. And how fanboys suck too, I just have soccer fanboys all around here.

[angryliberal]

i wasn't pointing at you really, just the excessive fanboys on both sides...

[Master Chibi]

I think it was proven that globally 4 million people watch the World Cup a day. Or something like that. Possibly more.

Soccer is great~

[Jaldaboath]

I know, I was jus answering your question.

On a more serious note, I'm really wondering about the need of justifying one's desicions by bashing other's. I really don't get it that much.

@Master Chibi: 6 millions people play WoW and SRK still hates it.

[Master Chibi]

WoW is a stupid game and SRK hates everything, so those are a given.

;D

[hubcapsignstop]

When did I ever claim soccer players are smarter than other athletes?
Did you not get the point? The game itself is more rewarding of it's intelligent players than others (from my experience and analysis). What the hell does that have to do with soccer players being smarter than other athletes..or soccer players knowing their own game better than other athletes? PLease if you need a better explanation just let me know.
if the game is more rewarding of initelligent players, then at the high levels the players in the sport will all be the smartest ones, right. And games that dont reward the intelligent players well their players just dont have the intelligence of the soccer stars. i was just reading between the lines; that is what you were saying even if you didnt realize it.

And rugby>american football easily. Rugby players dont get breathers and to sit down every few minutes.
that makes rugby better?
gridiron is like short bursts of energy each play at 100% intensisty, and plays are chosen strategically with careful consideration. some people like that shit. As opposed to non-stop running all over the place and split second strats and shit in rugby. In rugby its like a couple differernt plays each time over and over with little instinctual variations.

[Koop]

watchin ronaldhino (sp?) is like watchin the and1 of soccer.....dude is a beast! i enjoy soccor cause it brings the world together an watchin the hype of people from different ethics is off the hook!

[Khiempossible]

if the game is more rewarding of initelligent players, then at the high levels the players in the sport will all be the smartest ones, right.

I hope you realize this is true about soccer. Every African player has more endurance, speed and physical skill than anyone else. But because of better gameplan, most european teams crush the african ones.

[hubcapsignstop]

so black people are stupid?

[nothingxs]

No, just inferior coaching / strategies employed by African teams.

It's ironic because you have people like Drogba playing for Ivory Coast at the country level and Chelsea at the club level and have two players for Arsenal in the IC and they still struggle against teams like Serbia. :(

[jreinert13]

if the game is more rewarding of initelligent players, then at the high levels the players in the sport will all be the smartest ones, right. And games that dont reward the intelligent players well their players just dont have the intelligence of the soccer stars. i was just reading between the lines; that is what you were saying even if you didnt realize it.


First off, what you just said above is completely different than your previous statements. You are jumping to conclusions/acting on absolutes. It really gets silly because you've reached the point in which you are comparing players' game intelligence against another player from a different sport and somehow assessing their overall intelligence. A smart soccer player definetly does not, in any way shape or form, equate to a smart person...man.

Let's just say what I said was true:

Soccer tends to reward it's intelligent players more so than the other widespread sports.

That doesn't mean intelligent players from other sports don't get rewarded.
That doesn't mean soccer players possess more intelligence than other athletes.
That doesn't mean athletic soccer players don't get rewarded.
That doesn't mean an intelligent soccer player is autmatically good.
That doesn't mean other sports aren't based on intellectual decisions.

Way too many variables involved (not just in sports but life) to make conlusions like this. It's essentially thinking in black and white when it's obvious the world is grey.

The only conlusion that can be taken from my statement is really the statement itself or another wording of it like: the [b]game[/] of soccer trends to intelligent decision making over pure athleticism; more so than sports such as basketball, football, hockey, baseball etc.
This is due to the game, not the players.

So if someone makes a point like "Every African player has more endurance, speed and physical skill than anyone else. But because of better gameplan, most european teams crush the african ones"
*which I'll add more to that - it's not just the gameplan (often the coaches from these countries are still very good and even from soccer super power countries like France; they can have excellent gameplans) It's the development of the players. African countries have phenominal athletes but these countries don't possess the soccer heritage, knowledge and integration that exists in places like Germany, Brasil, Argentina etc. so the players aren't developed to the same extent. This is obvious as we speak because there is no way an Afircan team has any chance(well maybe the smallest fraction thinkable) of winning this world cup despite their excellent physical conditioning and even coaching(for the most part).

To conclude that that means "black people are stupid" is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

[f_man]

im surprised no ones mentioned why soccer is such a popular worldwide sport.


look at the equipment involved in soccer. you can play soccer pretty much anywhere as long as you have some sort of markers denoting the goal (cones or ghetto ass aluminum cans) and a ball. this is why its so popular, the poorest ass african and latin american countries get such great players because any random kid can play soccer.

bottom line: soccers fockin boring to watch compared to popular american sports. half the time the ball is spent in a throw in, corner kick, or goal kick. and if not then, the players just pass the ball back and forth across the huge field.

soccer=cvs2, american football or basketball=mvc2. looking at excitement. sure you can have some great matches to watch i guess in cvs2, but the potential for turnaround and the pace of the plays is way more interesting to watch in those american sports.

im with the original poster, i played soccer for years but that shits seriously boring to watch. the only sport worse to watch than soccer is NASCAR.

so stop trying to look cool and riding the nuts of being an anti-conformist, where soccers popular in every country but america. watching cvs2 is to soccer as watching marvel or even super turbo is to american football or basketball. i swear your hearts gonna increase its pace a million times more seeing plays in those games than watching a ball get throwin in or passed back and forth, only to find the score in the end to be 0-0.



ROFL:
To conclude that that means "black people are stupid" is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

ADMIT IT, PLAYS ARENT AS INTRICATE IN SOCCER AS BASKETBALL AND FOOTBALL. when was the last time you saw the fullback saying to the forward "HEY LETS TRY THIS PLAY OUT TO COUNTER THE OTHER TEAM"

just because its a more popular game in the world doesnt mean its more interesting to watch. look at HALO vs. FIGHTING GAMES. halos a billion times more popular, but everyone know the mind games, combos, and everything else in fighting games make things more interesting.

[hubcapsignstop]

i said 'so black are stupid?'
so he would admit that it had more to do with coaching, contradicting himself
to which i would say:
so in 'game intellligence' really doesnt play as much a factor as you would have originally had me believe.
does it?

[Mikee_Showbiz]

i swear your hearts gonna increase its pace a million times more seeing plays in those games than watching a ball get throwin in or passed back and forth, only to find the score in the end to be 0-0.

Wow, that's a sweeping generalisation. Here are some more:

Basketball - too many points are scored, none of them have any meaning, run to one end of the court, score, run to the other end of the court (AND OMG THE BALL GETS THROWN IN THEN PASSED BACK AND FORTH)
American football - throw ball, get hit, play stops. Throw ball, get hit, play stops. Throw ball, get hit, play stops.
Baseball - WTF?

To use your CVS2 comparison, if a Marvel player watched a CVS2 game and didn't see a 200-hit combo every three seconds (OMGZ ANOTHER GENERALISATION), would he really be stupid enough to call CVS2 dull as a result? No. Just as a CVS2 player can't really belittle Marvel by saying the combos mean nothing because there are so many of them. Same smell, different nostril. Football is still a sport with tactics, strategies, split second decisions and whatever else you might like about sport to begin with. And so what if your heart's pace increases more when you watch basketball or whatever? Your heart's pace increases more when you play buckaroo over fucking chess but that doesn't make it a better board game.

Although having said that...

It's like baseball. You're not supposed to actually watch it. You're supposed to drink and bullshit while it goes down. Then get into random barfights with fans of the opposing team afterwards.

lol

At least Damacy's generalisations are funny.

EDIT: And to whoever asked about the soccer hooligans previously in the thread, it's not as bad as it's made out, certainly not at English Premier League games anyway. They have pretty tight security at those games (and I doubt most soccer hooligans can even afford the tickets nowadays). I support Barnet (League 2) and while problems sometimes threaten to kick off due to stupid security (if there's even any at all), in five years of regularly going to games I've never seen anything bad happen. Italy and Turkey are the hotspots for football hooligan but there, it's tied in with extremist groups and whatever else.

[f_man]

okay... the original argument was soccer is boring to watch, not which sport is better. all im saying is soccer is more boring to watch than football and basketball.

excitement=rapid heartbeat. im just quanitfying how you could measure excitement. just because a sports exciting or not doesnt determine if its enjoyable or "better".

if you look at game determining action over time, soccer doesnt really cut it compared to the turnaround possible in basketball and football. this is what makes these games exciting. just like action divided by time in cvs2 versus marvel or even super turbo, where every little hit counts in the endgame. even baseball has more excitement simply because a game can turnaround with a home run on bases loaded.

[genocide]

ADMIT IT, PLAYS ARENT AS INTRICATE IN SOCCER AS BASKETBALL AND FOOTBALL. when was the last time you saw the fullback saying to the forward "HEY LETS TRY THIS PLAY OUT TO COUNTER THE OTHER TEAM"

you obviously havent played for a decent team/manager.

The managers are constantly telling players how to adapt to formations and tactics.

the fact you even talk about 'plays' in football shows you dont properly understand the game. You have set pieces were these 'plays' are used, but since the game is constant, you have to adapt on the fly.

I cant comprehend why people who have no understanding of the sport feel the need to call it boring.

any of you football critics care to explain the offside rule? Then your comments may have some credibility.:rofl:

[umthrfkr]

Futball>>>>>>>American toss ball *NFL* thing

if football is toss ball then that would make soccer, kickball. i have nothing against soccer, but dont fuck with football. soccer would be better if america didnt suck in it. kinda like the way u dont like cvs2, 3s, mvc2, xvsf, fighting games in general cause u sick in them. damn u just got raped.

[Khiempossible]

I'd rather watch football than CVS2 to be honest. When shit happens it's fucking intense, i.e australia scoring 3 goals vs. japan in the final 10 minutes.

I go nuts when my team scores or gets scored against. Not so in CVS2.

[atothex]

Soccer is ok to watch. Imo it's much worse than basketball and football, but still better than baseball. I'd personally rank soccer slightly lower than hockey. All other team sports like rugby or lacrosse or whatever... I couldn't give two shits.

What's more amazing than this soccer fanaticism is how anyone can watch golf or racing. Those are barely sports... and sooo fucking boring.

[HuGoLiZarD]

Man I'm starting to like soccer again. At least there's a constant flow of the game. No time outs no nothing. If for whatever reason the game is stopped the clock would still be ticking. There might be a little too much diving for my liking though and in general the refs do a really bad job. I hope FIFA would address those issues.

I used to love bball but I'm really sick of the # of timeouts, especially towards the end of games when it's most exciting. Teams call timeout after every play. Plus the game is really stupid now that everything is a foul. Too many FTs. Guys keep talking about attacking the basketball so they get fouled. Man that's not what bball is all about. In the finals Miami shot like 50 FTs every game. If you lay a finger on Wade or if you get touched by Wade it's a foul on you. Can't stand it.

In response to the above poster. Ya, I don't understand why ppl would watch racing. I mean if it's F1 maybe. You get to see guys race in diff tracks. But Indy? Guys just drive around in circles. What's the pt?

[Serpent]

Why do soccer fans feel this intense need to babble about what we call the sport and try to convince us to watch? During the NFL season we don't go around on messageboards and shit telling people soccer sucks and they should watch football. Every 4 years the retards from around the world suddenly think they're better than us, even though the average US citizen has an education light years ahead of the rest of the world; has much better hygiene; generally our women are atleast not as hairy even if they fail at life otherwise; and generally has a higher standard of living. If Americans are so stupid, what does it make the rest of the world exactly? I think people are stupid in general and we have lots of problems, but give me a break, the rest of the world sucks so much more.

[Mark Beast]

because ppl feel the need to shit on soccer, thats why. we (the soccer fans) have our own thread where we discuss whats going on in the world cup. a non soccer fan made this one. we didn't make a thread asking why ppl in the u.s. didn't watch soccer, and how they're stupid for doing so, but a non soccer fan made a thread questioning the sport and saying it was boring, etc. there are two threads about how soccer is garbage. give it a break.

and why so many ppl in other countries play soccer has already been mentioned, f_man.

[Khiempossible]

When it's american football season you don't see futbol/soccer fans saying american football sucks. We're just here defending the game. It's you non fans who started it.

[jreinert13]

i said 'so black are stupid?'
so he would admit that it had more to do with coaching, contradicting himself
to which i would say:
so in 'game intellligence' really doesnt play as much a factor as you would have originally had me believe.
does it?

Well I can't speak for what callmeanewb was trying to say exactly but his point still reflected mine in that a physical presence isn't as valuable as the 'brain'.
You can try to condradict it by concluding coaching is the true strength and game intelligence isn't prevalent...but I would interpret his point as an example and therefore a reflection of how intelligence(in any form) usually dominates physicality in this game.
Also, coaching does promote better game intelligence from it's players. A part of coaching is training and direction. Both of these will, to some extent, improve a players in game decision-making. But truthfully, game-intelligence is developed through many different sources during a long time span. Where they are from ends up being the most weighted factor.

[orochizoolander]

Personally i believe soccer is BY FAR the most exciting sport to watch and i'm not just a 1 sided soccer hooligan cuz i also watch baseball,football,basketball n the x games I don't understand why americans hate soccer so much but meh w/e i guess it's just personal preference.

...DROGBA FTW!!!!!!!!!!!