Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Wii are very amused

[Raph_Stryker]

Well, today at the Electronic Entertainment Exposition, Shigeru Miyamoto showed off a video debuting the new Smash Bros. game for the Wii.

Scheduled for release in 2007, confirmed new characters are: Wario, Pit (from Kid Icarus), and Meta Knight (from the Kirby games.)

As their video went on, it cut to a conversation between Solid Snake and Otacon via his wrist watch. As it goes, Otacon says that Snake has been invited to Super Smash Bros., and then asks where Snake is. Snake says he is on recon, and the camera zooms to show Snake hiding in a box while some Smash Bros. characters are fighting.

It is said that Konami had asked Nintendo to let them put Snake in. They said it would open doors for other third parties to put their characters in the game. Sonic anyone?

Personally, I find Smash Bros fun, from a unbiased position, and really, the entertainment value of the series has just gone through the roof.

Edit- I have yet to find the video, so if anyone comes across it, post up. Oh, and duh..the game is gonna use the normal Gamecube controller. Big Green Button ftw.

Discuss!!

[Master Chibi]

Haha, fucking awesome.

Great news.

XD

[King9999]

Snake being in the new SSB opens up a ton of possibilities. Sonic is obvious, but anyone can get in now. Viewtiful Joe isn't out of the question anymore.

[Zerox12]

You have just made my day sir. Solid Snake in SSB? Fuck yeah. Hopefully they bring in somebody from Sonic, and NiGHTS even though that's just wishful thinking.

[ArcadeFire]

Screenshots here (http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/748/748545/imgs_1.html)

I am SO getting a Wii now. This looks AWESOME

[Master Chibi]

Is that Samus without the suit?

Oh good lord.

<3

[H_Magnus]

Justin Bailey FTW.

[Return of Shiki]

Now that's Snake's in...we can all forget about the horrible abortion that was Dream Mix TV Fighters....

All we need now is Sonic and Hector and this game will be ready to rock.

[Raph_Stryker]

Also, from the pics ive seen, i spy Super Moves, such as that Kirby cook thing, Samus' really big lazer, and the REALLY BIG Mario fireball.

[quiche]

Solid......Snake?

Shit, looks like I'm getting a Wii.

Little Mac and King Hippo better not be sitting out another Smash Bros.

...seriously.

EDIT: Oh shit, they went with Wario Ware styled Wario. That just made my fucking year.

[G.O.T]

so............................................(sta rts to cry).......................No Baby.............................................. .........BOWSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sixtymhz]

http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/748/748545/vids_1.html


"Here Wii go!!"

So getting a Wii.....

[cygnus]

:o ............





OH MY GOD

[Mavric]

Is that a fucking nintendog?!

[Superking]

The Nintendog will be uber broken. =x

[ArcadeFire]

That trailer was AWE_SOME

[DropOff]

Allright! Let the fanboy speculation begin! Multiple Kongs should be playable. I.E. Diddy and Funky in Addition to donkey. King Dedede needs in, maybe even other kirby characters like knuckle joe and mirror wizard. If wario is in then waluigi should be in it (also with a redesigned costume) Star wolf, pigma more fire emblem characters (Needs Joshua from sacred stones) Birdo, wart. baby bowser, some random high profile koopa kids. Nerf Ridley thow him in there. Pig-gannon, A Goron and Impa to round out the Zelda cast. Uuuhhh... Toad. A balloon fighter.

3rd parties
Mystical ninja Goemon and friends
Earthworm jim
Megaman and Protoman, Bass
Besides sonic and tales, Espio, Eggman
Dio brando (Down B Steamroller)
Battle toads

[Lilman]

Snake will be banned....

[Onslaught2000]

This Smash will have it all (kinda) some better characters, and online play so don't have to sit next the all of the 15 year old's. o_O

[Yoshi_Kimachi]

This is the first time I've been able to post in about a year or something like that, and I still don't have time now, but....

This is amazing. It does open the doors to other third party characters, but don't worry, I have no doubt it won't be overrun, and Kojima has begged for Snake to be in SSBM but it was too late into developement. He's really good friends with Miyamoto, or so I hear. The team is people that know what they are doing, and they are using the old system only adding. Can't help wanting a super bar or stock of some sort for some kind of super moves and burst function, but that overpowered fireball of Mario's is just an item. If Meta-Knights slashing in his intro says anything about the combo system then there should be now worries. Looks like it will be fun and will allow larger combos kind of like the first, but looks better. Might be due to the director. I have confidence in these guys and there is no doubt they'll be balancing, they know about the games depth, wavedashing, ect.

Balanced, better combo system... maybe super stock please (through defensive and combos)? It's also online. I'm getting a team buddy. I reallly would recommend no more than five other characters. More means more imbalance, but my team stuff is going to be amazing, I'll make it happen. I might check a little more in, but see you guys later (at least for a while).

[Master Chibi]

Holy shit, Zero Suit Samus.

Man Smashboards is probably getting RAPED in the ass by bandwith, this is crazy.

Look at the supers, Mario's fireball makes Shinkuhadoken look like a sneeze.

:rofl:

[Darkside3024]

It's nice that there are people on SRK that acknowledge this game. Anyone got any info on online play?

[Superking]

Ok, Wii + Twilight Princess + Smash Bros. Brawl = Too Good

Hell I was never really excited about Smash until this Wii incarnation. lol O_O

[Raph_Stryker]

According to the Q&A session with Miyamoto and Masahiro Sakurai, they asked if Brawl would incorporate Wi-Fi:, "Sakurai said his team will try to take the game online, but he thinks it would be a hard to make four-player online work." And thats the Word.

[Omnigamer]

As far as the Supers go, you can see from watching the trailer closely that a HAL-shaped item gives the ability for a character-unique super.

Oh right. And Nobuo Uematsu is doing the music. That's right.

Oh, and you can find the trailer on IGN and on the official site, which is: http://www.smashbros.com/en/

Many people are sharing the high-quality IGN version on the hub right now, get it while you can.

Edit: Just saw this in the trailer. Mario wavelands at 2:22, right after being hit by Link's arrow. Advanced techniques still in it ftw.

[SynikaL]

It's nice that there are people on SRK that acknowledge this game.

I've already set my internal stopwatch to countdown to how long it will take for this thread to degenerate into a "Smash is clownshoes" flamewar.

My suppostion is we'll be there by the third page.

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--Not liking the Supers. That means cutscenes interwoven into the gameplay and I don't like that. Let Smash maintain its originality. It doesn't need supers or meters to be successful. They'll just break up the hyper-kinetic flow of the gameplay.

Grrr.

--I want to see a counter hit system intergrated into Brawl. For i.e. when certain moves connect on counterhit, they become impossible or very hard to tech (by shortening the tech frames from 40 or so to around 5).


--Air dashes please (yeah, I know that kinda contradicts my first point about it being original, but air dashes are so cool).


--Air sheilding needs to be in this one.

-- I'd like to be able to air dodge more than once in the air before hitting the ground -- but only nuetral dodges. Any dodge influenced by directions should maintain their incapacitated free-fall trait (maybe except down).

-- Gimme Marth.

-- Teams needs a serious upgrade. I don't care for 2v2 as much as I'd like to see a robust tag system.

-- I should be able to grab onto my partners legs if he's edgehogging.


Yeah, I'm typing this response without a head (because it exploded watching the trailer you see..), so more later.


-Syn

[Yoshi_Kimachi]

As far as the Supers go, you can see from watching the trailer closely that a HAL-shaped item gives the ability for a character-unique super.

Oh right. And Nobuo Uematsu is doing the music. That's right.

Oh, and you can find the trailer on IGN and on the official site, which is: http://www.smashbros.com/en/

Many people are sharing the high-quality IGN version on the hub right now, get it while you can.

Edit: Just saw this in the trailer. Mario wavelands at 2:22, right after being hit by Link's arrow. Advanced techniques still in it ftw.
See, they kept the old system and are adding. I actually didn't catch that, though, good eye. Comboing looks better but that's only based on meta-knight.

I'm hoping that isn't the only way to access special moves though. I'd love a not so powerful super/burst stock based on maybe parrying, dodging at the right time, combos, damage ect. For this to be in affect I'm also thinking maybe the damage ratio could go down so more damage can be sustained, possible little longer levels, recovery, ect. Target combos would be kind of cool. Also, that's great, that's Uematsu doing the music.

[Yoshi_Kimachi]

--Not liking the Supers. That means cutscenes interwoven into the gameplay and I don't like that. Let Smash maintain its originality. It doesn't need supers or meters to be successful. They'll just break up the hyper-kinetic flow of the gameplay.


That's probably true, although I don't think it would ruin the gameplay, just not massive supers and a burst/invincibility king of thing. That is just an item, or so it seems.

Grrr.

--I want to see a counter hit system intergrated into Brawl. For i.e. when certain moves connect on counterhit, they become impossible or very hard to tech (by shortening the tech frames from 40 or so to around 5).

Sounds like a good idea....


--Air dashes please (yeah, I know that kinda contradicts my first point about it being original, but air dashes are so cool).

True, they'd probably be short, and that's like added recovery. I want more of a ground game (with chain combos and maybe supers on ground, more like EX and they aren't something you get every five seconds).


--Air sheilding needs to be in this one.

Or a parry-ish sort of thing. Don't know how well that would work with air-dodge.

-- I'd like to be able to air dodge more than once in the air before hitting the ground -- but only nuetral dodges. Any dodge influenced by directions should maintain their incapacitated free-fall trait (maybe except down).

-- Gimme Marth.

Yes.

-- Teams needs a serious upgrade. I don't care for 2v2 as much as I'd like to see a robust tag system.

Sounds like a good thing, actually. People need to be talking about this stuff on a wider scale so Nintendo gets hints of it.

-- I should be able to grab onto my partners legs if he's edgehogging.

LOL! That actually sounds freaking awesome.

Yeah, I'm typing this response without a head (because it exploded watching the trailer you see..), so more later.


-Syn
Yeah.

PS: This better be out Q1 2007

EDIT: According to Ign, http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707671p1.html
fans are asked to fill the rest of the roster. I can't stand more that 7 or 8 more, please don't kill us with unbalanced mess of characters, Nintendo, you seem to know what you are doing.

[Yoshi_Kimachi]

Anyway, for those of who know Japanese, follow the link, while you are at it bombared Nintendo with much of the same system changes and remind them to balance. They'll probably ignore something huge, though.

http://cgi.nintendo.co.jp/cgi-bin/smashbros/article.cgi

There.

[SynikaL]

Yeah.

PS: This better be out Q1 2007


Word. I'm frightened they may try to hold it till the holiday season though :(


Everyone looking to jump on the Smash bandwagon; I highly suggest you get acclimated with Melee high level play now. Contrary to my suspicions before the announcement, it looks as though the system will remain very similar, meaning veterans will be able to transfer over their Melee skills. I imagine a lot of peeps are going to be in for a very frusterating and rude awakening when they take their Brawl online (pun intended) in 2007.



-Syn

[Yoshi_Kimachi]

Word. I'm frightened they may try to hold it till the holiday season though :(


Everyone looking to jump on the Smash bandwagon; I highly suggest you get acclimated with Melee high level play now. Contrary to my suspicions before the announcement, it looks as though the system will remain very similar, meaning veterans will be able to transfer over their Melee skills. I imagine a lot of peeps are going to be in for a very frusterating and rude awakening when they take their Brawl online (pun intended) in 2007.



-Syn
I thought the same thing until I saw something about them taking the system and building on it. I might want some ultra strict grab teching, but I'd have to see how bad that would mess up everything, if anything. I'd really prefer not to have total flying kick melee, though, but just the way Meta-knights move attached make me feel liek the combo system will be something fun to work with.

Anyway Q1 should be early enough with how many people that have working on it, although they better not put it on shelved being ultra unbalanced and unplayable. My worse nightmare is somebody better than Fox or Sheik or on level with them. They know about it. I'd rather them release it later nad be good, they have enoiugh power to make that happen in Q1 if they tried.

I need to practice, but last time I played I was pleasantly suprise by my good timign and extreme wavedashability. We'll see when I get online.

[Superking]

Anyway, for those of who know Japanese, follow the link, while you are at it bombared Nintendo with much of the same system changes and remind them to balance. They'll probably ignore something huge, though.

http://cgi.nintendo.co.jp/cgi-bin/smashbros/article.cgi

There.

?

I just asked them to put Little Mac in. XD

[redshuma57]

omg son i think im going to die

[Yoshi_Kimachi]

?

I just asked them to put Little Mac in. XD
Good.

Really, Olimar, Diddy, Little Mac and maybe another/a few fire emblem/golden sun and a suprise and I'm good.

[nothingxs]

...Red Steel + Super Smash Bros. Brawl + Twilight Princess...

WHERE'S MY WII

[AlphaDragoon02]

Somebody who can speak/write Japanese: Go on there for me and tell them to put in Ike from FE: Path of Radiance.

[F.Y.C.N.]

nintendo is doing things real big with the wii

good price + good games + backwards compatabiltiy + me = PWND 24/7

fucking snake... that one was a real surprise to me (i love you kojima)

[Mashf3st]

Ridley!!!!!!

[Sano]

Man, now that Pit/Kid Icarus is in I want Simon Belmont and Megaman so we all see what those characters in Captain N SHOULD OF LOOKED LIKE STANDING NEXT TO EACH OTHER! :rofl:

Seriously, I would love to see Megaman or Viewtiful Joe, would be awesome... but already my prayers have been answered with Pit who I've wanted to be in Smash Bros. for years, and Solid Snake is just icing on the cake. :party:

[F.Y.C.N.]

i wonder whats snakes specials will be....

[SRKev]

Snake?! Oh my fucking word son, I just about fell out of my chair! This game will be so fucking fun I'll be daydreaming of new combos when I should be studying. Little Mac plz though? Plz?

P.S. Im the biggest PS3 fanboy in the world....but Wii is dumpin on the competition right now. No matter how well this system does it will go down in history as one of the most original thoughts in technology ever. Long live the brilliant minds at Nintendo.

[Kryian]

Mmm...I expect around 40 characters..wouldn't be surprised to see 50 or more...

There's no way this game can be balanced, or even as balanced (which isn't very balanced) as SSBM. Sad :(.

Even still, I can't wait.

[Bowling Pin]

Goddamn, Nintendo just owned me. Miyamoto put his dick in my asshole, Kojima put his in my mouth. OH SHIT.

PUT MUTHAFUCKIN GILLIAN SEED IN THIS BITCH, AND SOME SNATCHERS. FUCK, PUT PHOENIX WRIGHT AND RYU IN...

SHIT. CABLE/SENT/STORM.

[The Pirate King: KLT]

i wonder whats snakes specials will be....


Rations and cigarettes :D. Can't wait to play this. Looks good :D. Sonic and Miles would be my choices though. Who HASN'T been waiting 20+ years to play Mario vs. Sonic?

[Saotome Kaneda]

GotY 2k7. I'm calling it now.

[Mavric]

i wonder whats snakes specials will be....

His special is going to be he grabs mario and snaps his neck in the most violent and brutal fashion ever witnessed by man kind.

Come on people wtf is snake, the man who out right murders people in cold blood, doing fighting with a bunch of cartoon characters in order to "smash" them out of the corner. He needs to be able to just fuckin drop people in one action.

[tataki]

Allright! Let the fanboy speculation begin!

i want Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney as a playable character

[G.O.T]

Solid Snake, Pit, and Suitless Samus. ---ftw actually. I hope they did not turn it into bullshit. Yeah, Mavric, wtf are they gonna do. Snake is a stone cold borderline psychopath he's definitely not playful hug hug material. Snake's taunt is gonna be tight as hell. but. i. love nintendo now. they did what no other company could do besides snk. so their bringing dream matches to life. i hope this is not some fake shit. bcuz then im gonna blow shit up for messing with my inside dreams. once again Snake is to not be fucked with. Why cant capcom be more like them. And get that fuckin Marvel license back, Get that Collaboration with SNK going again, and then just make sf players die...make sf4. but dreams are what they are. Dreams

[Mavric]

i want Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney as a playable character
YOUR LYING, dammit.

[phontain]

So will this use the shell or what? I'm wondering how this is going to control with the Wiimote..

[Yoshi_Kimachi]

So will this use the shell or what? I'm wondering how this is going to control with the Wiimote..
I think that they said you can but you can use the traditional style controller because "motion sensing gets in the way of the game" meaning that this is one of those games that simply should be played on a normal controller.

[ToyRobotTerror]

omg battletoads omg dio

[thedude.com]

are you guys trying to make jump superstar VS capcom VS nintendo VS sega VS namco ?????????? ......

pacman mario sonic dio yugioh yoh ............ god ...

[quiche]

^Cosign.

I'm a totally fanboyed-out by Solid Snake though, but I'd hate to see this turn into a huge guest-character fest. The problem with guest characters is that when it loses its novelty for the company, or relations get strained, the next installment can't carry them over (What happened to the people who played link/spawn/hei in SC2?)

I'd be totally happy if they just add Little Mac and/or King Hippo, Olimar, and Sami or Nell from Advance Wars. Oh also, a Wario Ware stage where it's constantly changing is a MUST.

...seriously.

[TheDarkPhoenix]

This ssmb looks great, i'll deff learn to play this one....

nintendo owns

[Master Chibi]

It was stated that you can use the regular GC controller (and likely the shell) to play the game. They didn't want to alienate anyone who had played the game previously.

Also a few thoughts:

1. I love the fact that there are 'supers' in the game now, but having them be an item doesn't look it will lend itself well when playing the game seriously (ie in a competitive environment / tournament that isn't casuals or just friends hanging out, that type of thing). Perhaps if they had gone with the idea of having a 'meter' or 'stock' to work with, but that doesn't seem to fit well in the SSB world either. Regardless, they look like they'll be really fun to play with when just having fun.

2. Two characters who can fly (Meta Knight and Pit) and now three new characters with swords (Meta Knight, Pit (they resembled swords anyway), and Zero Samus))? Man something tells me one of those three is going to end up being too damn good, and my money is riding on Zero Suit Samus or Meta Knight. Meta Knight looks like he's got some insane SHFFL stuff potential, and Zero Samus and that sword reek of tipping ala Marth.

3. Snake has to be able to use that box somehow. During dodging maybe. Imagine what his stage will look like, or his double or triple jump wil look like? His wave-dash even? Hahaha, too good.

4. I hope they kept everyone else in the game. I liked playing Peach / Dr. Mario

[Superking]

Regarding Snake, since they are using his MGS2 incarnation, his stages and moves will probably based off stuff from Sons of Liberty/Substance.

So has there been a release date yet for this game? If this is for launch, then Wii is already sold on me, and Twilight Princess ain't too shabby either.

[Master Chibi]

I believe Miyamoto (or some higher up) announced it won't be available until 2007.

[Superking]

Oh, if that's the case, then I'll pass on Wii for now, and wait until 2007.

Now those DS games coming out this year, boy, those are another story. XD

[Master Chibi]

Man I just had the image of Pit running away from a fight all MvC2 Storm like. Jesus that would be a nightmare.

What about Diddy / Dixie Kong, I think they have a change of getting put it in?

:D

[Infernoman]

This will be THE shit! But I just hope they don't add TOO many 3rd party chararcters...then again...err but anyway here's what I would like to see:

Toad
King Dedede
Mega Man
Zero
Sonic
Knuckles
Vivi (I think he fits into the Smash Bros world)

[thedude.com]

Q will fits the best in the game ........

TOTAL DESTRUCTION !!!!

[DarkGiygas]

better have more earthbound characters

[Sano]

YOUR LYING, dammit.

Nah man, you gotta yell out "OBJECTION!" :rofl:

I'd like to see -

Capcom - Ryu, or Megaman, Chun-Li, Viewtiful Joe, Dante, Jill Valentine, any one of these

Namco - Klonoa or Pac-Man

SNK/Playmore - MOTW Terry Bogard. Who is this Kyo person you speak of... if not gimme someone from Metal Slug...

Eidos - Lara Croft

Square Enix - A Chocobo

My wishy listy that's not gonna happen, it's fun to dream... :smile:

[the_dannobot]

"I want these motherfucking Snakes off my motherfucking game!" Sorry, but I've been wanting to say that all day.

0-Suit Samus looks pretty cool. The game looks awesome, the wii looks awesome. I'll probably end up getting one.

[SynikaL]

Zero Samus and that sword reek of tipping ala Marth.

It's an energy whip.


About the Supers: It's clear that they're activated by an item pick-up, meaning they'll more than likely be banned from competitive play (thank god).


-Syn

[Infernoman]

It's an energy whip.


About the Supers: It's clear that they're activated by an item pick-up, meaning they'll more than likely be banned from competitive play (thank god).


-Syn

Yeah it's still a little early to judge how that will come into play, but if it IS and item...

*imagines a match with all items off except the item that will enable supers*

:lovin: :badboy: :wow: :wasted:

[quiche]

I hope they take out all the clones.

Dr Mario/Young Link/Falco/Pichu/Roy/Ganondorf can all suck my dick.

...seriously.

[cygnus]

"I want these motherfucking Snakes off my motherfucking game!"
aw nevermind its not there anymore

[ArC_man]

Still waiting for Zero >_>

Looks good so far, I like the fact that "supers" will most likely be items so it won't change tournament play.

[SynikaL]

I hope they take out all the clones.

Dr Mario/Young Link/Falco/Pichu/Roy/Ganondorf can all suck my dick.

...seriously.


Don't forget that each of these characters has a fanbase that is more than likely asking you to suck theirs ;)

I think a much more reasonable proposal would simply be to differentiate between the original clones more. The only characters that I can see making sense to eliminate them would be Pichu and Young Link as they can be seen as redundant (essentially being the same character). But if the series' predecessors are any indication, they'll more than likely keep everyone from Melee and simply add new faces. The potential backlash from getting rid of any one character at this point isn't worth it and easily avoidable.

On a side note:

I'm no Final Fantasy fan by a longshot, but I know cool characters when I see them. Someone needs to petition Advent Children Cloud and Sephiroth for this game, as well as Sora and maybe Riku from Kingdom Hearts. That'd be a great way to get the Squenix fanboys to flock to the system.

God Nintendo what have you done. The internet will collapse from the speculation.


-Kimosabae

[Atb_555]

Aw man this gonna be soo cool! And thank God that its going to use the Gamecube controller. I would like to see a few sonic characters and Megaman Exe and Zero in there. Also they should include 4 way air-throws, ie: up, down, left, right. Just imagine smashing someone off stage and then chucking them down to their doom!

[Autocrat1]

I have to say that Link's Triforce super pwns Omnislash and Lionheart like they owed it money.

Shi...Nintendo has fuckin' won everything. Here's who I'm voting for:

Super Joe/Bionic Commando
Doc/Little Mac/Bike
Spy vs. Spy
Koopa Kids, specifically the three L's Ludwig von, Larry & Lemmy
Elecman/Protoman/Megaman/Crashman
Little Nemo
The Ninja?!?!
Vegeta
Heihachi :wonder:

[Master Chibi]

It's an energy whip.


About the Supers: It's clear that they're activated by an item pick-up, meaning they'll more than likely be banned from competitive play (thank god).


-Syn


Ah I see. Still resembles a sword, but hell if it's a whip then it's that much more scarier I suppose.

And no taking out Dr. Mario.

>:|

[AlphaDragoon02]

There will be no removing of Roy, unless they do as I said prevously and put in Ike. Oh yeah, and it has to be Lord class Ike w/Ragnell.

If they could get SE in on this, Sora and Cloud would be freaking sweet. I dunno about Seph though, that's just asking for nobody else to get played when fanboys all over the world pick him and him alone. If Square got the manga-ka's approval, Edward from FMA would OWN.

[Superking]

People, before we go overboard with the 3rd parties, we gotta get Little Mac in, I mean, what good is a Nintendo fighter without THE ORIGINAL Nintendo FIGHTER? XD

[SynikaL]

You can't have Cloud without Sephiroth. I don't even like FF and I want to gut you for saying that.


Yin and Yang and all that.


-Syn

[Master Chibi]

Who is going to be the boss this time around?

Master Foot?

Master Ass?

Master FACE!??!!?@!@!

[Autocrat1]

Master Onion :rofl:

[Ultimate Hustla]

Snake will be banned....


I bet you he will have an AHVB or some variation of it.

Automatic knock out of the screen move.

[platinum_pinoy]

I dont go to the smashboards, but I went there just to see people's reactions. A lot of them do not like the super moves, saying that it's not an integral part of the Smash series. They say that it's going to break away from the simplicity of the game, making it more hardcore fighting than a simple engine. I don't think that's true, but I guess it will depend how how the supers work. I mean, as long as the input of the super is simple, then it wouldn't change the game's simplicity.

A lot of people also think that the supers look like they affect only one opponent. I also don't think that's true. Supers for each character will affect certain portions of the screen; Samus' cannon would affect half of the screen horizontally, Link's would affect a triangle of the screen that takes up half the area, wario's fart super takes up half the screen vertically, etc....

[Master Chibi]

MASTER CHIEF?!

Or even me!

I'm a third party!

SON OF A BITCH.

:O

[H_Magnus]

Who is going to be the boss this time around?

Master Foot?

Master Ass?

Master FACE!??!!?@!@!

Andross's face from the original Star Fox :O

[DragonSama]

This game is screaming to have Sonic in it. Mario Vs Sonic is the match that every gamer has wanted to see and it needs to happen now. Plus Sonic being in Smash will help repair his image after the so-so Sonic Adventure games and then the Abortions that were Sonic Heroes and Shadow the hedgehog.

After that They need to have in Mega man. He would fit so well into the whole Smash universe.

[Master Chibi]

Andross's face from the original Star Fox :O

Yes!

Also I think it's a given they'll be putting Toad into the game.

Maybe.

:O

[SynikaL]

Yes!

Also I think it's a given they'll be putting Toad into the game.

Maybe.

:O


Of course he will. Who else could better fufill the role of being Peach's tool?


-Kye

[quiche]

Who else could better fufill the role of being Peach's tool?Mario.

...seriously.

[Master Chibi]

Who else could better fufill the role of being Peach's tool?


-Kye

Mario?

:D

:rofl:

WHAT THE HELL QUICHE, STOP RAPING MY MIND.

[SynikaL]

Ouch.



-Kimo

[Onslaught2000]

If they really wanna get some star power, then this game will need the following.

Cloud
Sephoroth
Dante
Tom (dunno the full name, but the guy from Vice City)

[Shadowcuz]

Samus w/o her suit is fucking hawt:hitit:

[Sano]

People, before we go overboard with the 3rd parties, we gotta get Little Mac in, I mean, what good is a Nintendo fighter without THE ORIGINAL Nintendo FIGHTER? XD

If Little Mac gets in please dear lord let him be Little Mac from Mike Tyson's Punch Out. NOT Little Mac from Super Nintendo. Did you see what Super Nintendo Little Mac looked like in that EA game? BLEAH!

As a side note, it would be hella cool to play as Little Mac from the arcade version of Punch Out. See through Green Skeleton Little Mac FTW!

[google]

Looks pretty cool. I hope they change alot of the things, I don't want to play Melee 2.
As for characters, logically they should go after the big 3rd party games. They already have Snake, so...

Capcom- Megaman/Street Fighter
Square- Final Fantasy
Sega-Sonic

etc...

I just hope they put in Lil' Mac.

[Master Chibi]

Man we all want Lil Mac, but do you think Japanese want him?

[ViciousSLASH]

Man we all want Lil Mac, but do you think Japanese want him?

No, because the japs are dumb.

Supers are cool. They will probably be rare as hell items.

But the "Smash community" is probably going to freak out about them because the only way you are "allowed" to play Smash Brothers "competively" is to turn EVERYTHING off and play on final destination ONLY.

Easiest way to fix the clones is to make them pallet swaps. Like Peach can change her color to look like Daisy and just give each color change different characteristics. ( fox is fast and light, Falco is not as fast and not as light, gannon is slow, falcon is fast etc )

That way the clones wouldn't have there own spots on the character selection thing, and you could put more non swaps in. Why does Gannon fight like Falcon anyway ? He should have a sword.

Sonic w/tails needs to be in this game. B - spin dash like jigglypuff but a lot more controlable, forward B - super quick dash like foxes, up B - grabbing on tails to fly, down b - some sort of spike like thing.

[quiche]

The Japanese never even played Mike Tyson's Punch out for NES until it was released like 3 years ago with Animal Crossing.

Still, Marth and Roy were complete unknowns in the US when SSBM came out, so maybe Hal will let it work the other way too? Prolly not :sad:

Also, peep the new av. Wario is the man. (Wariio?)

...seriously.

[H_Magnus]

Also, peep the new av. Wario is the man. (Wariio?)

...seriously.

You win :pray:

And I was thinking of another Konami character that could have a big chance to fit in the SSB universe: Kid Alucard, anybody remember him?

[monbaby]

I haven't heard a word about BOWSER yet...

Whats wrong with you people?...

Bowser needs to be in this game...

[ViciousSLASH]

I haven't heard a word about BOWSER yet...

Whats wrong with you people?...

Bowser needs to be in this game...

He already is.

He's really slow and hard to use effectly because of that reason. Here's hoping they make him a bit quicker.

[Superking]

You win :pray:

And I was thinking of another Konami character that could have a big chance to fit in the SSB universe: Kid Alucard, anybody remember him?

Don't you mean Kid Dracula?

[cygnus]

A lot of people also think that the supers look like they affect only one opponent. I also don't think that's true. Supers for each character will affect certain portions of the screen; Samus' cannon would affect half of the screen horizontally, Link's would affect a triangle of the screen that takes up half the area, wario's fart super takes up half the screen vertically, etc....
That's what I'm thinking, supers will add more depth to the game, but smash players won't have it, it seems. You can turn on/off individual items, right? I think turning on supers items only would be dope. But you know it'll never happen. Hell it seems like most of these players on smashboards would say a fireball trap in ST is cheap lmao.

Like mario's super fireball, once he gets the item, couldn't you climb to the top of the screen and use up+special and double jumps to get over it and punish him? I think the different supers would add interesting space control games to smash.

*imagines a match with all items off except the item that will enable supers*
Yeah this is what I am thinking.

[cygnus]

AND YOU STARTED IT. Look at his post. It wasn't even remotely a flame. Yet, here you come running out with your pussy exposed begging to get a dick in it.
Hahaha holy shit.

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=71202

It seems like there is hope, a few people seem to like the idea of super items only.

[ViciousSLASH]

AND YOU STARTED IT. Look at his post. It wasn't even remotely a flame. Yet, here you come running out with your pussy exposed begging to get a dick in it. Calm the fuck down, clown. The only thing you beat in that thread was your dick because you played yourself and your attitude here proves it. Thanks for the laughs though. This thread was wack until you jumped from the cliff claiming someone pushed you.

Mods can we get assistance? This guy is ruining a good thread and turning it into a flamewar on purpose as you can see by his posts.

Smash isn't clownshoes, I love it.

The Smash Community is clownshoes.

You can still play with items. Just remove the problem items. Guns, Hammer, Healing ( except the little foods ) , star, and Pokeballs.

The other items would help balance the game. Bowser could be helped by being able to throw items to make up for his terrible speed. Ice Climbers using two items at once is what they were made for.

Banning all the items because it makes it random is retarded, the real solution would be banning some of the items, the items which cause all the problems. Not playing in some of the stages ( the deep blue one, the metroid one, poke floats for example ) makes sense, but banning all of them but like 4 ? That's retarded.

Smash is a great game, but the community is dumb as hell.

[Master Chibi]

Supers just wouldn't work in Smash. I personally LOVE the fact that they're in there, they seem like plenty of fun, but in reality they'd upset the chaotic pace the game has going for it. SSB is more about zoning, speed, mind games, and execution then it would be about meter management or proper use (or best means of obtaining) of super.

I sorta relate SSB to Darkstalkers in that sense, in that you're NEVER standing still in the game, always moving and thinking, and that if you blink you're done for. If the supers were to be integrated in the same fashion that DS has it, where there isn't this HUGE change in the screen / super freeze / what have you, then I could see them working pretty damn well.

That's obviously not the case, but regardless of that I'd still like to try them all out.

;D

[Master Chibi]

Bowser doesn't need items, he can do just fine without them.

It is true that a few items (early on in the game's competitive cycle) did help to balance by giving the 'low tiers' a better chance.

It's just that the locations of where they drop, and those DAMNED EXPLODING CAPSULES could never be controlled that were the real problem.

;p

[ViciousSLASH]

Bowser doesn't need items, he can do just fine without them.

It is true that a few items (early on in the game's competitive cycle) did help to balance by giving the 'low tiers' a better chance.

It's just that the locations of where they drop, and those DAMNED EXPLODING CAPSULES could never be controlled that were the real problem.

;p

Yeah the exploding capsules are bitches.

Here's hoping Hal makes so you can turn those off.

[Mashf3st]

Not playing in some of the stages ( the deep blue one, the metroid one, poke floats for example ) makes sense, but banning all of them but like 4 ? That's retarded.

You dont seem to realize how gay runaway peach/samus iare on some of the other stages....

[Yoshi_Kimachi]

Bowser doesn't need items, he can do just fine without them.

It is true that a few items (early on in the game's competitive cycle) did help to balance by giving the 'low tiers' a better chance.

It's just that the locations of where they drop, and those DAMNED EXPLODING CAPSULES could never be controlled that were the real problem.

;p
Low tier Bowser?

Items play to one thing- speed.

[Master Chibi]

Low tier Bowser?

What of him? Is he not low tier? I personally don't think he is, but that's what's usually being spread around as the truth on SB.

Items play to one thing- speed.

True.

[AlphaDragoon02]

In the way of more Konami characters, Soma would kick ass. They could also use Jonathan from Portrait of Ruin, make fans happy by getting a Belmont into SSBB AND promote their game on DS.

[Omnigamer]

I feel for you Syn.

To reiterate something, I'm still surprised they managed to pull Uematsu into doing the music. And that they're leaving the ability for GCN controller use is also great news. I'm just a bit curious at the amount of bandwidth that would be used in say, a 4 person FFA online, however...

[monbaby]

You dont seem to realize how gay runaway peach/samus iare on some of the other stages....


This is why they made diferent types of matches...

When i play smash i play Time Stock and Bonus...

With items 60 percent of the time...

Peach and Samus Can't run away on some stages...

They'll also get penalized for being a pussy in Bonus Matches...

The beauty of Smash brothers is that it's madness...

Whether it's the stage items or just plain fighting...

You have to switch up your style depending on the type of match...

The reason I hate the tourney scene is that it strips away all the things that i find fun about smash brothers...


As far as exploding capsules FOR THE MOST PART as far as i have seen on my copy in my gamecube is that they amazingly land on people that run away and turtle... I hardly ever see people In the fray fighting get an exploding capsule...

but hey to each his own...

[H_Magnus]

Don't you mean Kid Dracula?

Yeah that one, he's in fact a kid version of Dracula, even tough the game names him differently.

[JeRon]

I dont suppose there is any footage flying around for this? and or pics?
Anyway loved the first Smash Brothers, didnt get to into SSBM but wii is a 100% guaruntee that I'll be picking the game up. I never understood the whole banning items and certain stage select for tournaments. I know this has probrably been brought up many times before but hey either way I've always respected the Smash Community and I'll look foward to competing in the latest installment!

[Hokage Izlude]

If there was one character I'd really like to see in this game, I'd have to go with Marina from Treasure's Mischief Makers. She is perfect Smash Bros material! Plus the game needs more female characters anyways.

[Gen2000]

Can't wait to play as MetaKnight, I wonder if those multi-slashes were his special moves or just his normal A button attacks. He was dicing fools up when he appeared like crazy.

About the whole item/super thing. Items seem to be cool with the smash players I've meet, it's just that the containers they come in that makes people hate the item of having them on. Getting knocked off the edge and either Up+Bing into a explosive container that just appeared or having one instantly appear in front of your opponent for the instant kill sucks...hard. Especially if it's your last stock and/or final of a tourney.

From a "competitive" point of view, it's not even about worrying about the super themselves but how they will appear. If they still appear in containers that randomly explode chances are the majority of the community will be against it if Melee was any indication.

I like the idea of the supers personally, Link's wannabe be Weapon X Triforce super was badass, you just know he has some pimp final pose after the final strike.

[Yoshi_Kimachi]

No, because the japs are dumb.

Supers are cool. They will probably be rare as hell items.

But the "Smash community" is probably going to freak out about them because the only way you are "allowed" to play Smash Brothers "competively" is to turn EVERYTHING off and play on final destination ONLY.

Easiest way to fix the clones is to make them pallet swaps. Like Peach can change her color to look like Daisy and just give each color change different characteristics. ( fox is fast and light, Falco is not as fast and not as light, gannon is slow, falcon is fast etc )

That way the clones wouldn't have there own spots on the character selection thing, and you could put more non swaps in. Why does Gannon fight like Falcon anyway ? He should have a sword.

Sonic w/tails needs to be in this game. B - spin dash like jigglypuff but a lot more controlable, forward B - super quick dash like foxes, up B - grabbing on tails to fly, down b - some sort of spike like thing.

I say supers with a 2 or 3 stock is nice. Just like EX(ES) not that major MvC crap like thnat. It seems really damaging, but not explosive that knockjs off screen. The more I think about it, guest characters are kind of cool, as long as it's obvious they are, and it's all about nintneod, which I thik it will be.

[Fasty McNasty]

I smell Raiden as one of Snakes outfits....

[Superking]

^ Could happen, the Snake being used in SSBB is the MGS2 Snake afterall.

[m121akuma]

I smell Raiden as one of Snakes outfits....
I'd prefer Liquid...:sweat:

[Shade]

eww. I'd much rather have Raiden (old or new)

[Fasty McNasty]

Just thinking of what Snake is gonna play like boogles my mind. How is he gonna work? CQC? Guns? Cig-spray? Hankercheif? Pr0n? KETCHUP?!?!

But you know his super is gonna involve stinger missles.

[2nd. To God]

Can we PLEASE get Paula from Earthbound in this game? What about Bald Bull from Tyson's Punch Out? Let's not forget about:
Geno
King Boo
Magi Koopa(Kamek)
Dr. Wily as a special hidden boss
Bass
King Dedede
Captain K. Rool.
A character from Wave Race

[Mario Lemieux!]

Optimus Prime please...that was pretty much the only reason I wanted Dream Mix so badly...


And ROB should be the boss. He'd be like Sentinel!

[Return of Shiki]

Just thinking of what Snake is gonna play like boogles my mind. How is he gonna work? CQC? Guns? Cig-spray? Hankercheif? Pr0n? KETCHUP?!?!

But you know his super is gonna involve stinger missles.


If he's like his Dream Mix TV version, then that means no crazy firearms.
In Dream Mix TV, Snake had just basic martial arts moves...the only weapon he used was a C4 in his throws.

But I think this time around he'll be given more freedom, i.e. powered-up and allowed to use his weapons. And based on the trailer, the Cardboard Box MUST be a given...

[9999]

Oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit that trailer was insane! Wario, Pit, ZS-Samus and Snake, this will definatly be added to my collection.

[XZalla]

To whoever said Ganon to be deleted from 2(S)2(B), I'll dair you to no end...

Seriously Hal needs to think on making Gan's costume alittle fucking lighter! I mean wtf, his lightest clothes on ssbm is still dark and can barely be seen on tv (with bright colors, wow). Hell ditto matches are worst. Two darkies fighting and every start of the match we have to do some "thing" to figure out who's who. Yes I will say this, I do know about the controller respawn point, but do you expect me to remember all the ports? No.

Well atleast make two, atleast two of his color switches to be lighter. I vote white and pink costume!(luigi is easily seen with pink/HOT pink lol) ;D

[G.O.T]

If there was one character I'd really like to see in this game, I'd have to go with Marina from Treasure's Mischief Makers. She is perfect Smash Bros material! Plus the game needs more female characters anyways.

one of the smartest thing said in this thread or better yet the Gunstar Heroes.

[quiche]

To whoever said Ganon to be delete from S(S)2(B), I'll dair you to no end...What the fuck does that even mean? You'll "dair" me? Uhhhh, okaaaay. :confused:

...seriously.

[Omnigamer]

Dair is common smash notation. Here, it would translate as an aerial 2A.

[Neo DX90]

dair = d-air = A + Down in the air (Ganondorf's spike)

What I really want is for L-Cancelling to be gone. L-Cancelling places too much emphasis on Air based attacks, and, as a result, many characters are almost soley air combatants. It makes too much of an already limited moveset far less applicable. I would just like to see more balance in regards to Air and Ground attacks.

[Neo DX90]

Hey, so I play fighters besides (and including) the ones made by Capcom, SNK and Sammy, sue me :arazz:

[Rico!]

Snake alone is getting me to buy a Wii

[Mashf3st]

Wow, that is so lame, I am glad guys like me and Quiche weren't nerdy enough to know what it meant. Thank god I actually get laid.
but if i asked you what otg or kara ment what would you say?

[Yoshi_Kimachi]

Geno

Rights owned by Square-Enix, but still possible.

[Yoshi_Kimachi]

And ROB should be the boss. He'd be like Sentinel!
Yeah, and here's to hoping that he recovers 1 frame before everyone else, is the fastest character in the game, has insane damage and combos. While you're at it throw in an AHVB, arial raves, tiger uppercut and gigas breaker.

That would the be sweetest.

Although seriously, he needs to be in the game.

[Grimm_Demize]

Snake should be able to equip his smokes to power up.

[Raph_Stryker]

Can we just discuss Brawl, as was the INTENT of this thread. This isnt a, how smash should be played tourney wise thread, or a argue about stuff thread. Just post stuff like opinions and stuff you have about the actual game, and not the community. Sheesh.

Now, i have been wondering all day: Kirby + Snake = Mullet Kirby? O.o..think about that one.

[The Damned]

I think a much more reasonable proposal would simply be to differentiate between the original clones more. The only characters that I can see making sense to eliminate them would be Pichu and Young Link as they can be seen as redundant (essentially being the same character). But if the series' predecessors are any indication, they'll more than likely keep everyone from Melee and simply add new faces. The potential backlash from getting rid of any one character at this point isn't worth it and easily avoidable.

I concur. They did a magnificent job with making Luigi an individual character--more so than a lot of Mario games have. I don't see why they couldn't do the same for everyone but Pichu and maybe Young Link; for me, Young Link has more of a chance because Link has always had more of arnesal in his original games than Pikachu.

Speaking of Pokemon, anyone else find it odd the team has yet to include an actual Fighting type Pokemon? I mean, I understand the inclusion of Pikachu and Mewtwo in terms of popularity, but I never got why Purin (Jigglypuff) was added over Hitmonchan or something like that. Maybe it was do to that recurring Jigglypuff in the anime? Hmm....

Anyway, I'd kill to see a Fighting Type get put in, even if it's a "bastard" like Medicham or Heracross or Blaziken; Breloom...not so much. Hell, I'd doubly back Hitmonchan if Little Mac got in--Little Mac is a boxer, correct? The game likely is going to get another bipedal Pokemon since we're getting a new Kirby character, a new Mario character (who thankfully won't be a clone), and a new Metriod character (who, even as another version of Samus, looks to be far more different than the aforementioned clone characters from SSB:M).

Either way, I'll keep my fingers crossed for Hitmonlee...as I brush up on my Japanese (like I had been meaning to do before this...really).

On a side note:

I'm no Final Fantasy fan by a longshot, but I know cool characters when I see them. Someone needs to petition Advent Children Cloud and Sephiroth for this game, as well as Sora and maybe Riku from Kingdom Hearts. That'd be a great way to get the Squenix fanboys to flock to the system.

God Nintendo what have you done. The internet will collapse from the speculation.


-Kimosabae

Ugh. Ye gods...no Cloud or Sephiroth, please. No Final Fantasy characters (at least if they're not from Tactics...heh). If any FF7 character made it in (which seems the most likely given they've been the only ones in an actual, if crappy, fighting game AND they've had a lot of recent activity), then the FF6 fans would bitch until doomsday and vice versa. As someone mentioned early, the only that might go over well would be FF9 because they were already animated in a "kiddy" way closer to that of a lot of SSB series's character. (Not that I agree with SSB being kiddy in premise, but I have to repeat such things.)

The same thing goes for anime characters like Edward Elric. I mean, it's not like there aren't some people complaining already about Snake's inclusion, despite there already being "serious" characters like Link and Captain Falcon and Fox and Samus (who's a fucking bounty hunter for Athena's sake).

As a whole, I think that Sora would go over well, but that's admittedly bias as well. Besides, I don't think it will happen, at least anytime soon given his newness--Ragnarok would be a badass "item super" though.

Given that even Snake's been around for a while and first debuted on the NES, I have to say that I think a lot, if not all, of any others third-characters will follow that trend; the only likely deviant I see would be Sonic. So, that said, I'm somewhat hoping we'll see a Megaman or better yet, a Robot Master from one of the NES games, though it would probably be Gutsman or Cutman since they're super popular.

As for other, less over third-party characters, didn't Konami also do the Ninja Turtle Games? Shredder anyone?

Who is going to be the boss this time around?

Master Foot?

Master Ass?

Master FACE!??!!?@!@!

Like H_Magnus, probably Master Face. I can totally see one of those changing masquerade masks that Hexidecimal had in Reboot toying with you.

And if Zero Suit Samus plays anything like Whip from KOF with that whip-sword (there has to be an appropriate name by now...), then I'm even more sold; I just hope she (or anyone else for that matter) not as broken as Shiek or Fox from the later game.

*crosses fingers for Hitmon...something*

[SynikaL]

About the Cloud and Seph thing, I'll just copy and paste what I said on another forum, as I feel it still fits:


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quote:Originally posted by Brifa
people are forgetting snake is in there because kojima begged for it. read the ign article. we're not getting ff characters until each member of square makes sakurai come, not the other way around.

and NOOOOOO ff characters, anyway. they're cool, but they're not ssb. maybe sony can rip nintendo off even more than they already have and make their own character fighting game.

---------------------------------------------------


Are you kidding?

First off, Yuji Naka was quoted as wanting Sonic in Melee originally also, which is why EGM's April Fool's joke worked so well with that game. I guarantee you this is an invitation for a ponderous amount of third-party "guest" appearances for Nintendo's all-star fighting game.

Secondly, FF characters won't fit? O_o

If they don't fit the Melee universe at this point, I don't know what characters do. If we're talking pure asthetics here (and not Nintendo owned franchises), you've got the Fire Emblem characters, you've got Ganon and Capt Falcon and you've got no objections (or at least didn't mention any) to SOLID SNAKE? C'mon. You can't see Advent Children Cloud and Sephiroth standing next to Marth and Roy in all their cape flapping and sword weilding glory? I find that hard to believe.

And let's be honest here, Snake looks completely out of place ATM, we're all just waiting for Nintendo to convince us he can work. Plus we all just love the character, so we hold our objections.

I'm calling it now, on May 12th, 12:55 am. I GUARANTEE you will see Cloud and Seph in Brawl. I'll even put it in my sig, I believe it that strongly.

Honestly, those Square characters (and those two specifically) fit like a glove IMO. Not only asthetically; I can't think of any other video game characters that even come close to Nintendo's characters in terms of sheer popularity and mass reverence. On top of that, it would be like a reunion of sorts with the company's absence from Nintendo's platforms for so long. Great way to play up on fanboy nostalgia. The connections are there. Squares most prolific musician is directing the soundtrack.


It makes too much sense. Square fits.


-Syn

[Hoonyo]

needs more online talk imo

cant wait to play this game online

[Yoshi_Kimachi]

Here's the deal. I don't think third party characters are magically just going to show up as guests... but special ones might. What I mean by special is characters that have retained their popularity, and inviduality. Characters like Crash, Rayman, and now even Sonic are on numerous systems and just jump around multiplatfrom with some form of mario-ish game ripoffs.

To give an example, I'd say Cloud. Maybe a main Capcom character. They also need to be one the parties' main characters. Characters like Viewtiful Joe really don't work, either. Characters that aren't like the ones above and truly represent the company.

For the poeple talking about More ground game, I think that target combos and and ground EX specials would help that so everything isn't so areial.

[The Damned]

It makes too much sense. Square fits.


-Syn

If you're wanting me to directly respond to your quote, then I never said that I think that they don't fit (at least in terms of how they were animated in a non-"kiddy" style since you mentioned aethestics).

However, you make some good points, especially with Uematsu Nobuo being on board. Though I don't know if he'd care as much as Kojima supposedly has about getting his characters into the game. Does anyone even know how Uematsu feels about FF7 in general or at least Advent Children?

My main "problem" with the aforementioned characters--besides their horrid, horrid fanboys--is that there will be LOTS and LOTS of bitching from FF7 haters, especially if there are quite a bit of people already bitter by the poison taint of Solid Snake.

And I honestly can't say that I wouldn't be one of them, though I don't consider myself of a person that hates FF7, merely its fanboys.

There Will Be EDIT: I'm really hoping that we see a TMNT character as "compensation" should that happen.

[SynikaL]

Okay, I see where you're coming from.

However, you make some good points, especially with Uematsu Nobuo being on board. Though I don't know if he'd care as much as Kojima supposedly has about getting his characters into the game.

If Nintendo's smart (and I think they're very smart), they'll realize this is a chance to make the Wii attractive to more than just bubbly Nintendo fans. There's no denying the impact having characters like Cloud and Sephy in a high quality, first party fighting game such as Brawl, would have. All of a sudden it's more than just making the dream game for Nintendo fans and more about making the dream game for gamers in general. If any one company could pull of a real, industry-wide, all-star party fighting game, I believe it to be Nintendo.

Melee was a nod to Nintendo fanatics. Brawl could be a nod to gamers everywhere.

A party fighter with mass appeal? I'll take two please.

*edit*
WTF? I SWEAR I hit the submit ONCE. I didn't even know it was possible to doouble post here (with the 240 sec. rule and all). Mods?

-Syn

[ViciousSLASH]

snip


-Kimosabae

I also think people are going a little crazy with the whole third party thing. Lets hope for Sonic to be included in the game first before we start jerking off to Seph and Cloud possibilities. Seph and Cloud ? Before Little Mac ? That is totally retarded.

Also I agree with Sho2, they need a fighting pokemon, preferably Hitmonlee, Heracross, or Primeape.

If Heracross was in the game I'd go crazy. ( but of course that isn't going to happen, but here is hoping it does )

[Lilman]

I got it..... The kid from Blaster Master and/or his car... *Chases pet frog*
Or any Battletoads for that matter. They fit so well.

[Dios <-X->]

With all the modes, nostalgia, trophys, and all that extra jazz that was in Melee, how in the hell could brawl top that? That would be quite a feat.

[PozerWolf]

With all the modes, nostalgia, trophys, and all that extra jazz that was in Melee, how in the hell could brawl top that? That would be quite a feat.
I thought the same thing with N64 one.
Seriously, theres always room for improvement in any game.

[Shade]

With all the modes, nostalgia, trophys, and all that extra jazz that was in Melee, how in the hell could brawl top that? That would be quite a feat.

Theres so much Nintendo "stuff" they could play with, its not even funny. =)

[_MJ_#R]

still wont be in evo :p

[SynikaL]

lol^


-Syn

[Scamp]

Gee I sure hope all this stays interesting until well into next year.

That's the only thing that keeps me from getting excited now.

[TrueSephiroth]

If they put Sephiroth in there...he'd be top tier...his Masamune blade would be more stupid then even Marth's, unless they totally beef him down I suppose. Also, I doubt that any of the FF characters would make it into the game quite honestly. Anyways, this game does look cool, but I'll let my buddy get the Wii, I'm aiming for the PS3...btw, here's crossing my fingers that they make Link faster in this game...and give him back his running attack from the first one...his SSBM one blows.

[Gamer Gone Bad]

While I do think Snake is a cool addition to Smash, I do hope they do not go overboard with 3rd party characters, specifically characters from more mature games (e.g. Dante of DMC). Also, I think a rule for any 3rd party character to be in Smash should be that that character was actually in a game on a NINTENDO system, which would rule out Cloud and Seph (at least as far as I know). I personally would love to see Edgar from FFVI or Terra. But, in all honesty I think an FF character that would fit in perfectly for Smash would be Mog. Other characters that I think should make the cut though are Little Mac, Sonic, and Bomberman. I do think Viewtiful Joe would make a good Smash character, but I don't know how they would implement his VFX powers in the game without making him broken.

[shtkn]

imo viewtiful joe fits in perfectly w/ all them, although the issue is how do they use his powers? can't do zoom or slowdown/speedup stuff exactly.

and i know i've been telling everyone this, but snake needs a command grap where he plants c4 on someone's back, and after 5 seconds, it blows up, dealing decent damage to everyone in the blast radius

[Saotome Kaneda]

Keep your thoughts on the SSB community and how its tourney scene is ran in the old ass smash thread(s) that I'm quite sure are still around since I never deleted them myself despite wanting to a good number of times. What happened to the old days where people could talk about the topic at hand for a new game without bringing up old shit that already has its place?

So, if anyone else feels they need to argue the current SSB tourney trends, I'll gladly give you a ban until Brawl comes out. Preferably in the region that gets it last.

[Christ0pher]

Now, i have been wondering all day: Kirby + Snake = Mullet Kirby? O.o..think about that one.

PyschoSquall already answered this question with his newest avatar. Look upon it in awe and worship it mortal!!

[ZProtoss]

Everyone keeps talking about FF characters, but if square is involved why even focus on that? Square license = Chrono Trigger = Crono/Frog/Magus. Not to mention a Magus's tower stage :D

[Atb_555]

I hope they haven't nerfed Captain Falcon. Is still wanna small jump Electric Knee people in the face, hehe.

[quiche]

Wario...is just so cool.

(avatar update)

...seriously.

[holler mcdollar]

Hell I was never really excited about Smash until this Wii incarnation. lol O_O

seriously. me too. i might say fuck 360 and ps3 until they're cheap and just get a wii now. it's really looking good to me.

[Master Chibi]

ooh i want a meta knight avatar quiche :O!

:rofl:

I love how they managed to put the rainbow RIGHT NEXT TO HIM.

http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/748/748545/img_3596331.html

[AlphaDragoon02]

HOLY CRAP. I just thought of it...

They absolutely MUST HAVE Blaziken playable. Best Pokemon ever, IMO.

And I still want Soma in, too. Do it, Konami...

[The Damned]

I love how they managed to put the rainbow RIGHT NEXT TO HIM.

http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/748/748545/img_3596331.html

Nice eye.

I didn't even notice. Heh.

HOLY CRAP. I just thought of it...

Yes, you just thought of it. [Expletive deleted].

They absolutely MUST HAVE Blaziken playable. Best Pokemon ever, IMO.

I like it better than Heracross, but I would fine with either really. I just find it odd that we still don't have a Fighting type when we got Pichu, as sickeningly adorable as it was.

And I still want Soma in, too. Do it, Konami...

Is Soma more popular than Alucard or even Simon Belmont for that matter? I somewhat agree with Yoshi_Kimachi for once: The third-party characters, provided there are anymore, will likely stick to "main" characters. Not that Soma isn't a main character, but he's also relatively new, isn't he?

*keeps fingers crossed for a Fighting type while idly wonder if Mewtwo will be "Super Effective!" against it*

[Santoscrew]

if they put yoda (star wars) in it, then maybe i give SB a chance

[specs]

Two words: Terra Bradford.

Her and Sonic and the ones I wanna see appear.

I'm hyper-excited for this. Though all you Pichu haters need to stop the hatin'; Pichu needs buffing, not deletion. :nunchuck:

[Evil Morrigan]

Dont know if this was posted earlier but here are instructions on how to nominate characters to be in the new Smash Game. Apparently you can type your nominations in english as long as you follow the directions. I tried it and typed in "Sonic" It seems to have went through no problem.

http://wii.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=6819


:tup:

[Lvl.3]

If they put in King Hippo, how would that work? He would block every thing until he goes on the offense. Heh, you only get one life with him.

[Dragonz]

Bomberman , shadow and mog from ff series would be a nice addition

[Dan_The Man]

I've already set my internal stopwatch to countdown to how long it will take for this thread to degenerate into a "Smash is clownshoes" flamewar.

My suppostion is we'll be there by the third page.

---------------------------------------------------------------

--Not liking the Supers. That means cutscenes interwoven into the gameplay and I don't like that. Let Smash maintain its originality. It doesn't need supers or meters to be successful. They'll just break up the hyper-kinetic flow of the gameplay.

Grrr.

--I want to see a counter hit system intergrated into Brawl. For i.e. when certain moves connect on counterhit, they become impossible or very hard to tech (by shortening the tech frames from 40 or so to around 5).


--Air dashes please (yeah, I know that kinda contradicts my first point about it being original, but air dashes are so cool).


--Air sheilding needs to be in this one.

-- I'd like to be able to air dodge more than once in the air before hitting the ground -- but only nuetral dodges. Any dodge influenced by directions should maintain their incapacitated free-fall trait (maybe except down).

-- Gimme Marth.

-- Teams needs a serious upgrade. I don't care for 2v2 as much as I'd like to see a robust tag system.

-- I should be able to grab onto my partners legs if he's edgehogging.


Yeah, I'm typing this response without a head (because it exploded watching the trailer you see..), so more later.


-Syn


yeah seems they put in a REAL combo system now.but thing they need to do to make the engine better is...

1)make a REAL combo system and use damage/hit scaling.
2)super need to have seriuous damage scaling to work..
3)Fix powershielding to make it possible to do it in actual human vs. human battle.Because the 1-3 frame window is PRETTY stiff timing.make it about 1-5 or 6 not 8 like 3S(we don't want the game to become parry parry parry anything highlight reel.
4)fix the range=priority so that non-ranged characters don't get raped.(pikachu,ness, kirby,pichu)
5)Fix the invincible objects so they are not so high reward low risk
6)Tone down shine
7)demolish chaingrabbing or limit it all together
8)make fireball slightly more harder to defend.(ei by making them travel faster,add higher block stun,and have them come out at slighty random directions and angles.
9)Put in a defense engine.bowser,ganon,and DK should not be taking the same amount of damage as say jigglypuff and kirby.
10)extend the hangtime in the air as to improve mid-air battle
11)put the combo tracking thing back in like in SSB1 (remember the bombs always comboing into another bomb)
12)improve stamina mode

[Sano]

Copying and pasting Katakana from Japanese websites I managed to vote for "Ryu - Street Fighter II" in the Japanese poll. Sure he doesn't stand a chance of winning against some Rockman AKA Megaman variant but at least my voice was heard. Well, maybe... I'll be happy if any Capcom character gets in though if not that's cool, already got Kid Icarus and Solid Snake. :tup:

[JackTenrac!]

lol @ Preview. Snake better be able to do that in game. So, Nintendo really wanted to add third-party characters to SSB?

...that went well.

[Dan_The Man]

still wont be in evo :p
no one cares

[Vyral React]

sol-badguy ftw

[sixtymhz]

if they put yoda (star wars) in it, then maybe i give SB a chance


Maybe if you got off that Star Wars shit, girls would give you a chance.

[Vyral React]

my gf = starwars fan

[felineki]

Everyone keeps talking about FF characters, but if square is involved why even focus on that? Square license = Chrono Trigger = Crono/Frog/Magus. Not to mention a Magus's tower stage :DChrono Trigger FTW. But gimme Robo before Magus.

[kempobot]

well, i'd want only four or five guest characters to appear and that would be pac-man, megaman (or viewtiful joe), sonic (although i'd rather have someone from shinobi), and snake (though a belmont would be better). i guess a FF character like cloud would be good for them fanboys. no more and no less. imho, sonic would be a lame character, but i wouldn't mind his cameo whatsoever, and street fighter characters wouldn't fly because of their conflicting controls for their attacks/moves (though it'd be funny to see ryu throw a fireball at mario, only to see mario jump onto another platform). :)

[Hoonyo]

no one cares
i do. i want to make $5000 just by being the best at this game.

[JackTenrac!]

my gf = starwars fan

Vyral React hides in a R2D2 costume and plays with his wookie. Pass it on.

...that went well.

[felineki]

Newcomer (http://home.mchsi.com/~mbiddinger/segatanewcomer.jpg)

[Worthless]

Newcomer (http://home.mchsi.com/%7Embiddinger/segatanewcomer.jpg)


YES.....him and Akira from VF :wgrin:

[PsychoSquall]

Bonk, anybody??? He would be perfect.

[Vyral React]

Vyral React hides in a R2D2 costume and plays with his wookie. Pass it on.

...that went well.

wow, you're mature, just cuz someones a fan doesnt mean their completely obsessed and/or have a fetish of something. Take a walk into the real world and get away from the internet for a while before you open your mouth.

[SynikaL]

Bonk, anybody??? He would be perfect.


Ha ha. That avvy is the shit.



-Syn

[Silentness!]

If there was one character I'd really like to see in this game, I'd have to go with Marina from Treasure's Mischief Makers. She is perfect Smash Bros material! Plus the game needs more female characters anyways.

Good times. Her "SHAKE SHAKE" would be game breaking :rofl:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2f/YukeYukeTroublemakers.jpg

[Infernoman]

Mewtwo should be back but with his Armor from the movie. It would make him so badass! and get rid of Pichu! waste of a spot! If I want a small yellow character that tries to be cute but ends up useless, I'd perfer it to be Kobun/Servbot!

[specs]

Again, I say that Pichu better stay. He's the Smash Bros. Dan, and Dan is the man for a reason. :rofl: Make him run faster and stop the self-hurt moves, and I'll be one happy camper.

Something I suggested in that suggestion site was the score system for Time battles. My pals and I almost always play Time, and for what I hope are obvious reasons, we set the SD penalty to -2, to prevent bullshit purposeful SDs and to not reward clumsily getting oneself killed. However, SSBM would, depending on how that SD happened, tack on an extra -1, for -3. I suggested that it simply be +1 for a KO (with NO negative points to the victim), and -1 for a SD. Like most first person shooters. Simple and easy.

I, like others, hope that supers are a stock meter-kinda thing, and hope that the item in the preview that Mario nabbed only helps build that meter, not enables the super entirely. That'd be lame.

It's all about Pichu, bitches. Rekonize.

[Santoscrew]

Maybe if you got off that Star Wars shit, girls would give you a chance.

lol i'm not even a star wars fan, i just think yoda is a cool character.

[H_Magnus]

Bonk, anybody??? He would be perfect.

Add Master Higgins to that wish list. His super may involve his dinosaurs and shit like that.

[The Switcher]

Not sure if it was posted, but here is Solid Snake's full Brawl character model.

http://www.metalgearsolid.org/ff7/snake.jpg

[Gen2000]

Mewtwo should be back but with his Armor from the movie. It would make him so badass! and get rid of Pichu! waste of a spot! If I want a small yellow character that tries to be cute but ends up useless, I'd perfer it to be Kobun/Servbot!

I know everyone hate "clones" but I wouldn't mind seeing Armored Mewtwo even if that was case. If anything just so that they would have a good excuse to make him heavier than the current/normal one. (can't see him being an alternate color as they don't affect character properties, at least that hasn't been the case so far).

I like playing as Mewtwo in Melee but it's sucks that he gets knocked around as easily as Jigglypuff (which happens alot more since he's a pretty big target when compared).

[quiche]

That Snake model is Awesomeness.

I just realized, this game NEEDS to have Chibi-Robo in it.

For those of you who aren't familiar with him, here are some pictures:

http://www.clubskill.com/downloads/Chibi-Robo/i_8705.jpg
http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/object/550/550539/chibi_robo_packboxart_160w.jpg
http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/200509/06/54/b0032554_2553879.jpg
http://www.ggmania.com/pics/05/sep/chibi/ichibirobo.jpg

I can just imagine him beating the crap out of people with his power cord.

...seriously.

[Shinto]

Whoa SrK shows Smash love !?!?!?

I want combos at least a blinker that shows how many hits...I wanna Hear Whopp Seeee and a little miyamoto head in the coner...http://i3.tinypic.com/zo9tw0.gif

[JAMMAR]

Bonk, anybody??? He would be perfect.

HAHAHA YESSSS

At my work we were always wondering if anyone still knew who he was... AND if people gave a shit about him. Shit, now that you mention it, Master Higgins should own it up as well.

[Wiegraf]

Voltron...

[google]

Bonk would be great, and probably easy to acquire.

[Superking]

Dont know if this was posted earlier but here are instructions on how to nominate characters to be in the new Smash Game. Apparently you can type your nominations in english as long as you follow the directions. I tried it and typed in "Sonic" It seems to have went through no problem.

http://wii.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=6819


:tup:

See everybody, now let's all start the Little Mac gravy train again! :tup:

[ArcadeFire]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/Shokatshin/snakewins1wz9ks.gif

^ Too bad it's too big to be an av.

[Shade]

My nomination went to Raiden{MGS4}. I had to. I'm sorry.

[Khiempossible]

Sonic

[sait0u]

got a question...

where is this pit character from?

anyway i think the game would be great.

seriously i did not think snake would be part of the game. shit caught me by surprise

[thedude.com]

how ........could.......everyone........forget ........

Little Mac from Punch OUT !!!!

NIGGA Doc Louis AND BIKE ASSIST !

[PsychoSquall]

got a question...

where is this pit character from?



He's the main character from Kid Icarus for the NES. Kid Icarus 2 came out for the GB I believe. The NES game was a noteworthy title for it's time, and I seriously wondered why it didn't make a comeback until now. Nintendo better be planning on bringing a new Kid Icarus game!

Other Nintendo characters I'd like to see in Brawl:
The Captain guy from the Pikmin games
a human/main character from Animal Crossing

That would be nice if Snake's other selectable colors were of his various outfits from MGS1-3

[Superking]

See everybody, now let's all start the Little Mac gravy train again! :tup:

Hmm, on second thought, I think I may drop support for Mac, and instead go with a 3rd party, a Sega character to be exact. And the cool thing is, this character was the title character in the first ever 3rd party Sega game to Nintendo. XD

[forgenjuro]

How about Cool Spot, the old mascot for 7-up?

He had his own game once before....

[TheDarkPhoenix]

How about Cool Spot, the old mascot for 7-up?

He had his own game once before....



Heck yea that was great too! Cool spot was indeed cool.....

[white shadow]

If Metaknight's *vacuum* sword properties remain we will be in big trouble... good trouble.:badboy: Not to mention he's floaty and looks pretty heavy at the same time like Samus.:cool:

What I hope is that Mewtwo will be better and Marth will be toned down. I also wish to see Poo from Earthbound although Jeff could also work!

For Pokemon Blaziken (Sky Uppercut Up+B:cool:), Typhlosion, Scizor could all work.

Lastly, I WANT PAPERBOY!!!! Imagine wavedashing on his bicycle, everytime he does it he'd make a Ringing noise from his bike-bell. CHING!!! CHING!!!:looney: His newspaperprojectiles could have bouncy properties like G&W sausages!:clap:

The Damned: The Jigglypuff in SSBM is also from the show which is why it was put it. Pichu i dunno...:bluu:

I hope instead of clones or color changes they'll just make costume changes. No Oni Link in Brawl? Just make his costume for reg.Link so that we can at least have some fun with his cool design etc...

I have my hopes up since Nintendo gave Wario his Warioware costume in the trailer!:bgrin:

I think this is the first time that I will actually play Smash non-competitely due to those AWESOME supers from the items. I can imagine myself having just asmuch fun spamming supers with the super-only setting on picking up Hal Items. Mario vs Luigi both doing their ULTRA-FIREBALLS at each other ala DBZ. Beautiful:sad:

But when in comes to battle mechanics they need tighten the system up alot. Especially with defense, they should make dodges an shields universal so that you don't need to light dodge just to light block just to avoid an attack.

By making the sub-systems universal like Guilty Gear XX it will be at least more balanced that the last game... when you count the averages of high tiered characters of course.:razzy:

[Jahat]

Hope nintendo give us character customization, kinda like T5 / VF4

Mario = hammer bro suit
Snake = NVG goggles
Samus = Metroid for a hat

[quiche]

Ok, Apparently Sakurai (SSBB Director) is posting some of the user-submitted feedback about characters

Here it is in Japanese. you can run a language translator on it, but it's not really worth it.
http://www.smashbros.com/jp/toukou/bn/no1_1.html

I got this from smashboards.com (I know, eww)it may not mean anything in the end, but i think it does say something since these are the entries Sakurai is choosing to present to the public.

references are:

Megaman
Claus from MOTHER 3
King K Rool
King Dedede
Geno from SMB RPG
Professor Kawasima (??? Brain Age?)
[sagi] or the crow from batten [kaitosu],
Cheer Group (???)
Doctor Pepper (???)
Jigurudo (i think this is ganondorf?)
Black Shadow from F-Zero
Takao (female character, 8 years old?)
Dragon Chan from Super Punch-Out (wtf? him and not Li'l Mac or King Hippo?)
if the character from masterpiece action “[gachiyahuosu]” (Gotchahouse?) of [Capcom] that also Sakurai was extolled, The protagonist machine G lead-lead is nominated! (???)


chibi said waluigi was on there, but i can't find him. unless he's "the shank." ;)

and he said no manga characters.

that's all i can discern so far. sorry if this has been posted somewhere else already. i haven't seen anything like this yet.

I know these are just the fan suggestions, but they're the ones that Sakurai chose to show to us. This is great news. The fact that Dragon Chan was mentioned and not Little Mac leads me to surmise that perhaps Little Mac is already slated to appear. This lends some hope for megaman fans too.

...seriously.

[felineki]

Hope nintendo give us character customization, kinda like T5 / VF4

Mario = hammer bro suitDude... Hammer Bros. Suit Mario would be WAY too broken. Seriously. (http://home.mchsi.com/~mbiddinger/mariokilldeathstar.html)

[Neo DX90]

Dude... Hammer Bros. Suit Mario would be WAY too broken. Seriously. (http://home.mchsi.com/~mbiddinger/mariokilldeathstar.html)
:rofl:
Funny, but all too true.

[specs]

Ok, Apparently Sakurai (SSBB Director) is posting some of the user-submitted feedback about characters

Here it is in Japanese. you can run a language translator on it, but it's not really worth it.
http://www.smashbros.com/jp/toukou/bn/no1_1.html

I got this from smashboards.com (I know, eww)

I know these are just the fan suggestions, but they're the ones that Sakurai chose to show to us. This is great news. The fact that Dragon Chan was mentioned and not Little Mac leads me to surmise that perhaps Little Mac is already slated to appear. This lends some hope for megaman fans too.

...seriously.

No Sonic!? :sad:

EDIT - So I made two suggestions already. One was... Sonic. The other was... this.

Congratulations and best wishes! The Smash Bros. Brawl trailer is extremely impressive.

I do have a suggestion that does not pertain to either characters or music.

In Super Smash Bros. Melee, the Time Battle score system is flawed. A Self Destruct (SD) is awarded -1 points...but getting KO'ed is much more deadly, giving the victim -1 and the person who scored the KO a +1. This makes intentional SDs too common with the default options. Of course, you can always just change the SD penalty to -2 in the options, BUT that, too, presents a problem. Sometimes, depending on the nature of the SD, the game will tack on an EXTRA -1 on top of whatever penalty you already have, leading to inaccurate and mostly negative scoring for all except the winner.

My suggestion is as follows: in Time Battles, KOs should award +1 to the person who scored the KO and NOTHING (+0/-0) to the victim. SDs should award -1 to the victim. This leads to a more accurate representation of how well everyone performed.

It was originally much longer but the suggestion form has a 1000 character limit. I trimmed it to EXACTLY 1000...

[Darkside3024]

Dude... Hammer Bros. Suit Mario would be WAY too broken. Seriously. (http://home.mchsi.com/~mbiddinger/mariokilldeathstar.html)
Damn! That's some godly shit right there!

[Sano]

*Snip*

The Capcom game is called "Gotcha Force," not "Gotchahouse." It's a Gamecube game. Using a Wikipedia link 'cuz I'm tired...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotcha_Force

[Mashf3st]

I think the cheer group is from that game Ouendan

[Bowling Pin]

I demand to know more about this Takao.

[Sano]

I think the cheer group is from that game Ouendan

Yeah, it is Ouendan! I read that on another board.

Just in case there's two of you who don't know about this game -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouendan

[KrassHole]

will buy a revolution for this

[maelstrom218]

Hooray for the next Smash. Hopefully, they keep the physics engine the same so all the stuff people do now (wavedashing, L-cancelling, shffl'ing, teching) will stay in. And better yet, I hope they add some actual fighting-game stuff like mid-air dashing and dead-angle attacks a la GGXX. SSBB with the technical stuff from GGXX would be friggin' awesome.

As for other characters, they NEED to have Sami from Advance Wars. 1.5 times capture rate and Victory March makes her way too good to ignore. C'mon, Sakurai, you know you want to put her in the game.

[CyberAkuma]

What I think is also interesting is that, in the Sakurai interview they talked about earlier, Sakurai wanted to also show some more love for the single-player mode than what has been given in the two previous games.

If that's true, then perhaps they could actually use that mode as a way to unlock more of the stuff, rather than waiting some amount of time for the likes of Mewtwo to unviel himself.

Also, you know who I think would be great to see, in spite of the sheer "WTF" factor they would represent...?

Kevin Keene, or otherwise known as Captain N. Complete with having his dog, Duke, and possibly the original GameBoy as helpers invovled with his attacks.

But really, think about it! If Mega Man, Pit (Kid Icarus), Samus Aran* and Simon Belmont ALL happened to be in this game, we'd practically have the "N-Team" re-united for the first time in a decade! It would be something for all of us old-heads who gave up our Saturday mornings to watch the "Nintendo hour" back in the day.

Plus, if Nintendo was ever interested in the idea of copying the basic dynamic that Kingdom Hearts used, a re-vamped, re-launched Captain N could easily do the job, and just use the "Smash Bros." world as a basis...


(*Yes, Samus too. Those of you who used to get the Nintendo Comics that Valiant used to put out would remember that Samus pretty much took the place of both Simon and Megaman, because of liscensing restrictions.)

[Nemesis00]

Things this game needs.

Simon Belmont

Bowser's Castle stage, with thwomps coming down randomly

King DeeDeeDee's boxing ring with his pimp music

ROB as a weapon

Duck Hunt weapon. Think of ducks flying around the screen, and shots just missing the ducks, but hitting the fighters.

Anyone who mails that to Nintendo gets green rep and a cookie.

[Superking]

^ You can actually send that to Sakurai yourself because Sakurai will take English suggestions as well, the steps to do it are available somewhere in this thread.

[Sano]

Actually, quite a few people on the net have brung up Captain N. Would be awesome if that happened. From Captain N, we have -

Kid Icarus
Donkey Kong (who chances are will be in this game)
Link
Samus Aran (In the comic like you said)
Mario - Kiiiind of. The Warp Zones used in Captain N were from Super Mario Bros, they even used the same sound effect. But Mario has never appeared on Captain N, even though Super Mario 3 and 4 shared the same animation block with Captain N.
Megaman - Who has a good chance of being in this game

No Solid Snake of course, but they did feature Konami's other game, Castlevania a lot.

But Captain N has issues. A few people hate on it, "Megaman is not green and Simon is not a tool!" Plus I don't think anyone in Japan knows enough about it to vote for it, even if they did air it in Japan at some point Japan doesn't give too many reruns, so it would of ran once and that's it...

Maybe if they extend the voting to the US things might be different, maybe. I know we can technically vote for Captain N ourselves but I still think mostly Japanese are going to / and are voting because that's the only way I can think of Sonic not being a top pick over there...

Nintendo 'kind of' has the rights to Captain N. It began as a comic in Nintendo Power, Nintendo stole it and had Dic turn it in