Who's getting the PS3?

[platinum_pinoy]

If you are keeping up with E3, you know that the Playstation 3 will cost $500-$600. The pricing goes as is:

$600
- 60GB hard drive

$500:
- 20GB hard drive
- No flash memory card slots
- No HDMI ports, which means no 1080p resolution
- No WiFi connectivity

There's been a lot of debate on the pricing of the PS3 and I was wondering where the majority of SRK stands. So, please vote so we can see how price affected our decisions.

I'm figuring out how to setup a poll in a thread, so bear with me until I get it.

[VG Emblem]

Scroll down to the bottom when making the original post and check the "Include a poll" option or something like that. If you already made the thread, then I don't think there's anyway to still put it in. Edit: Nevermind, lol.


And no, the chances of me getting a PS3 at this point are very slim. Maybe like around 2008 or 2009. MAYBE.

[Hunter D]

No, it is overpriced. One game, MGS4 isn't worth $660.

[SRKev]

Yes, Im buying it.

Insert Flames below!

[apokalipze2]

I'll wait. Sony is probably going to have a shitty launch lineup anyway. Not worth 600+ when its released. I also don't want to deal with a faulty console. My 360 will do fine for this year. The graphics aren't even that much different than the ps3s

[Shade]

I'll wait. Sony is probably going to have a shitty launch lineup anyway. Not worth 600+ when its released. I also don't want to deal with a faulty console. My 360 will do fine for this year. The graphics aren't even that much different than the ps3s

Same for me.

[The Bucket Of Truth]

This is how I am summing up this year's E3 so far:

Nintendo has raped the competition, no condoms were involved and now Sony is pregnant with a failure.


Nintendo fanboy and Godfuckingdamned proud. Tis a good day to be on the side of Nintendo, the winners of E3.bring back your old sig about you dreaming about fire emblem or whatever the game was

[blood_sin]

I'm buying at launch. Then selling it on ebay. Then I'll put that profit towards my own PS3 a month or so later. I did the same thing with the 360, except I ended up not buying a 360 after all.

[9TNine]

I'm not against buying it, but I'd like to see a lower price and more games that I'd like to play first. MGS 4 looks nice, but I want to see gameplay first, because I can't imagine it being worth 600+ alone. Can't wait to see Gradius VI though.

I also don't trust Sony systems at launch.

-9

[Etcetera]

I know this is sounding super noobish, but does the ebay resell thing really all that its cracked up to be? Like with the 360 it seems like everyone plans to buy one just to jack up the price on ebay, but I can't imagine buyers ready to fork over a bunch of extra cash when they could have just pre ordered like the very people that are reselling... that is unless supplys don't meet demand and they get screwed out of the pre order.

edit:
I also don't trust Sony systems at launch.
:lol: can never forget about that, 1st gen PS2's would break if you looked at it wrong.

[Shade]

For the record, Metal Gear Solid 4 wont be a launch title.

[Septimus Prime]

Barring any supply shortages, I'll be getting a $600 PS3 on launch day.

I got two PS2s during the launch and sold one (for retail price, since it was to my teacher at the time), but I don't think I'll be doing the same with PS3/Wii, now that everyone has jumped on that bandwagon already.

[Onslaught2000]

I'll be picking up a PS3, probably a little after launch though. Kinda expensive, and the 4 titles that I am interested in don't help lower the price either. Not to mention that I don't know which are launch titles.

[Infested Jester]

Buying at least three at launch. If they are gonna be going for what 360s were on ebay the first week ($1200-1500) I'm gonna cash in like a mother. If anything is good at launch I'll keep one for myself, if not I'll sell all of them and just keep the cash.

[G.O.T]

*sighs. i just dont know anymore. fucking marketing schemes. Wii is on my list now with the ssbb bs. ps3 dont know. i hate xbox. Nintendo's got it man. congratufuckinlations nintendo.

[OreNoChinSugoi]

I'm gettin a $600 one. Launch.

Fuck a 360. Not because of fanboyism, but if I had one since it's launch, I'd have like 1 game...PGR3.

I'm not buying a Wii, either.

[YahnV]

If I could afford it I'd get the whole package.

[Naslectronical]

Picking up two at launch and selling one on ebay so I can get it for free and maybe even make a little money.

I'll be picking up a Wii as well.

Looks like I'll be needing a bigger tv stand with more compartments.

[Ender120]

If it came with Street Fighter 4 and a blowjob I wouldn't buy the PS3 at launch.


That's way too much money to play fucking video games.

[bill_rizer]

man ps3 is going to have to wait for me i might do the ebay thing but getting a wii and DS is going to hurt my pockets then of course you need games.

I have to have a wii lol that sounds so wrong.

[Mark Beast]

i'll get one at launch and i won't open it. i'll try selling it on ebay for at least twice the price and if that doesn't work i'll take that thing back to the store. FUCK paying 600 dollars, tax NOT included for a video game system with no games and one controller.

to the ppl considering buying two or three: you do realize that you'll be dropping like 1200 dollars PLUS TAX on launch day, right?

[Infested Jester]

to the ppl considering buying two or three: you do realize that you'll be dropping like 1200 dollars PLUS TAX on launch day, right?

Yes sir.

[valaris]

I will. My roommate and I decided to split the cost on launch, and eventually I'll slowly repay his half until it's mine :D.

[AKUMA2000]

I'm gettin 60gb PS3 at launch (if they're not all sold out).

[X-Treme]

After seeing that price tag, 360 and Wii have more of a chance of being bought by me. And after reading this thread, that Ebay thing doesn't sound half bad.:badboy:

I'll be damned if I'm paying over half a thousand dollars for a game system. Besides, I can lotsa games to keep me company until then.

[Adam Warlock]

Yup. Just to scalp it. Not to keep it.

[Sp00ky]

I think the system is just too ahead of its time. How many people even have a TV that supports 1080p? Thats another big investment if you even want to use the console to its full potential. Maybe 2 years from now it'll be affordable enough to matter.

[Superking]

Yeah, I'm planning on getting the 60gb one at launch, BUT like many others, it's to sell it. If I were to be unsuccessful in selling it, then meh, I'd just keep it.

I never buy consoles at launch (didn't get my PS2 until 2003), but this is too good to pass up with the whole reselling thing.

[caliagent#3]

I'm gonna preorder it, then sell my preorder

[bill_rizer]

I will. My roommate and I decided to split the cost on launch, and eventually I'll slowly repay his half until it's mine :D.

Thats a bad idea....It will end up with you and your friend fighting to the death *screams out* MORTAL KOMBAT!!!!

I'm gettin 60gb PS3 at launch (if they're not all sold out).

Hey everyone look, its a ebay buyer in the making :lol:

wow ebay is going to flooded with ps3's sonys going to think WTF.

[platinum_pinoy]

Man, I should have added:

"Yes, I am buying it, but only to sell it to get profit."

[adonis_minus_20]

Not buying until the price is more reasonable - $400 for the premium. I already have a 360, and will definitely be getting the Wii (that sounds wrong). Sony has screwed up big time on this one.

Jim

[Jedi W.]

I'll consider buying it when something I care about comes out for it... FFXIII or MGS4, which ever comes first...

--jedi\/\/.

[Midnight]

No way!!. I'm going to have to go with the Wii for now. Possibly a 360. Shelling out $600 for just a system is out of the question. Not that I can't afford it, I could. I just refuse to be raped with the whole tree. However, I think if designers focused on gameplay as opposed to graphics, they could do just as well with a cheaper system.

[AcEtUrNeDjOkEr]

arent they planning for 20 million from nov to march 07?

and no, i'm not buying a 600$ system, thats WAY WAY WAY too much

[snakedizzle209]

Gotta have it. 600 hundreds bucks for a hobby aint much. Try building cars or computers if you really wanna spend some money.

Although MGS4 isnt a launch title, I'd rather have a PS3 ASAP so I dont have to deal with the risk of not having it in time for MGS4.

[AKUMA2000]

Hey everyone look, its a ebay buyer in the making :lol:

wow ebay is going to flooded with ps3's sonys going to think WTF.

I don't buy from ebay, never did and never will.

If the ps3 is sold out i'll wait until i can snag one from walmart or ebgames, i'm a very patient person.

[Koop]

-How much will it cost with 2 games?

-How much will it cost with 2 games an a extra controller?

-How much is the online package?

-How well does the online capability works being playstation is not known for that?

-Has hollywood an dvd distributors decided to go towards blueray yet?

-Being that we all live in different parts of the country [and different countries as is] how are taxes affecting the price?

-Will it be safe to say my friends an family will have presents come christmas if i purchase this?

- What is the return policy if shyt goes wrong with some of the hardware?

- Why is WII and X Box looking a little bit easy on the eyes?

[Koop]

Gotta have it. 600 hundreds bucks for a hobby aint much. Try building cars or computers if you really wanna spend some money.


yeah...but dizzle...building cars in the end tends to lean towards your value an something you can use constantly. You dont have to worry after you built it to you liking of another "version" coming out in three years....it contributes to alot: going to that booty call....makin it to work or class...goin on trips...showin it off..etc

an a computer does so much for you...internet..games...school work...job work...etc...

its not fair to compare those even money wise...but thats me an your you an you seem to have to money for it so have fun.

[rusbar]

hell, even if i did have money to burn, i still wouldn't buy it on launch. if i recall, sony has had terrible 1st gen systems. maybe when 2nd or 3rd gen comes out i'll buy a ps3

[Mark Beast]

basically if i cop at launch i'm bringing a group of friends and we're gonna at least bring knives. that might sound crazy but ey, i'm not getting jumped after dropping almost a g on this bullshit ass system. and if the shit is buggy when i get home ...srk is gonna hear it in the form of a rant thread and i will be on that phone calling sony/best buy getting another system or my money back.

and i don't trust usps to order it adn then send it in the mail because i just got my tiffany dunks today (i paid 270, they're worth like 300) and this bitch left it out here like 3-4 feet AWAY from my door. wtffffffff. by the time i came outside she had sped off. i'm like uh uh.

[Seth]

I'm probably gonna wait until early 2007. most likely gonna have over a 700 to spare. just dont wanna get mgs4 and thats it.

[P. Gorath]

if it has good games, yes. if it doesnt, no

[TheSix]

Oops....I meant to vote for the top one. Ah well.

Im getting it. I'll have over $700 ready come launch.

[Taito]

No. Even if I was confident in the Blu-ray format, both PS3 SKUs make for gimped BD players-- the basic model has no HDMI, and the premium only has ONE HDMI port. You need one HDMI port for full HD video and another HDMI port to hook up to a HD audio-compliant amplifier.

In other words.. when Sony unveiled the prototype PS3 with the dual HDMI ports, that model had everything you'd need for a complete BD player.. so regardless of the price, that's a great deal to get in on Sony's latest console and to properly upgrade your home theater.. instead, Sony removed the second port out of necessity. As a result, you're left with a BD player that doesn't have the hardware to produce uncompressed HD audio.. PS3's BD player, the very reason the PS3 is fucking NeoGeo-priced, is only half-capable, with (as of yet) no option to upgrade or expand, surprisingly...

The whole HD video thing is a clusterfuck anyway and who knows if the public is willing to give up their entirely competent DVD player and library for Blu-ray or HD-DVD..

Sony, and I mean SONY, not just SCE, seriously bit off more than they could chew this time, and they'll pay dearly for it over the next few years..

PS. About HD movies, I think they went about this whole thing the wrong way in the first place.. right now, DVD in your living room almost looks and sounds better than your average shitty public movie theater setup.. if theaters used Blu-ray or whatever, upgraded to HD screens/projectors (god knows how much that would cost, but just for the sake of argument) and studios increased the films' framerate from 24 fps to 48 while leaving DVDs at the current resolution and framerate, we'd be in a VHS-like position where the theater experience is substantially better than what's available at home, and the current problem where more people would rather wait for a DVD release than go out would be solved..

[H_Magnus]

Going to wait until half 2007 when both MGS 4 and Virtua Fighter 5 come to shelves.

[Sp00ky]

No. Even if I was confident in the Blu-ray format, both PS3 SKUs make for gimped BD players-- the basic model has no HDMI, and the premium only has ONE HDMI port. You need one HDMI port for full HD video and another HDMI port to hook up to a HD audio-compliant amplifier.

In other words.. when Sony unveiled the prototype PS3 with the dual HDMI ports, that model had everything you'd need for a complete BD player.. so regardless of the price, that's a great deal to get in on Sony's latest console and to properly upgrade your home theater.. instead, Sony removed the second port out of necessity. As a result, you're left with a BD player that doesn't have the hardware to produce uncompressed HD audio.. PS3's BD player, the very reason the PS3 is fucking NeoGeo-priced, is only half-capable, with (as of yet) no option to upgrade or expand, surprisingly...

The whole HD video thing is a clusterfuck anyway and who knows if the public is willing to give up their entirely competent DVD player and library for Blu-ray or HD-DVD..

Sony, and I mean SONY, not just SCE, seriously bit off more than they could chew this time, and they'll pay dearly for it over the next few years..

PS. About HD movies, I think they went about this whole thing the wrong way in the first place.. right now, DVD in your living room almost looks and sounds better than your average shitty public movie theater setup.. if theaters used Blu-ray or whatever, upgraded to HD screens/projectors (god knows how much that would cost, but just for the sake of argument) and studios increased the films' framerate from 24 fps to 48 while leaving DVDs at the current resolution and framerate, we'd be in a VHS-like position where the theater experience is substantially better than what's available at home, and the current problem where more people would rather wait for a DVD release than go out would be solved..

I think the IMAX theatres already do something like this though im unsure if anything crazy like the frame rate gets changed. It is something that needs to be more of a standard though, as is I think people only go to the movies cause theres the 6 month or whatever delay before the movie comes out on dvd.

[Master Chibi]

Only if Ratchet and Clank 5 comes out this year.

Otherwise no.

[Taito]

Yeah some IMAX movies run at 48 fps.

[Sp00ky]

Yeah some IMAX movies run at 48 fps.
it's still a good idea. Testing expensive technology like blue ray somewhere that its easier to invest in the technology (like a movie theatre just needing to buy one blue ray machine for each theatre and they are set) is a better idea then just trying to force it on people at a crazy price.

[white shadow]

I'd only get it if I was lucky enough to be on "Pimp My Ride."

[bill_rizer]

Only if Ratchet and Clank 5 comes out this year.

Otherwise no.

:rofl: :rofl:

I dont think people ae ready for a new format, with DVD i can understand VHS held shit down for years, DVD was a big leap forward, Blu-ray I dunno I dont see it making the same impact, the average person is happy with DVD, only us SRK'ers and other techno freaks give a dam about that kind of stuff.

Im quite happy with DVD for now and the next couple of years, sounds like sony wanna win a format wars for once knowing ps3 is going to sell at first anyway, their minidisc failed, UMD is going to fail, its not a good track record.

Maybe Sony just got to big for their boots I dont know sales charts of theirs and that but im sure most of their money comes from the playstations business, when ever I see reviews of TVS panasonic always beat them, and mp3 is Ipod land.

Sony are starting to forget what made them great, from back on the streets stuff with wipeout etc, psone was fresh, lucky the ps2 is still doing well because ps3 looks like a big risk at the moment, especially if that format does not take off.

[Naslectronical]

to the ppl considering buying two or three: you do realize that you'll be dropping like 1200 dollars PLUS TAX on launch day, right?

Delaware doesn't have sales tax.

[monbaby]

I know i might get shot for saying this but...

Whatever system gets the best version of Madden is the one i'm getting...

And as it stands right now PS3 looks like it's getting the best version...

I HAVE to have a madden game...

Did you read the previews to that shit?!...

*Has a random seizure thinking about Madden*...

[neuroax0n]

i'm 4 sure buying 2 on launch and jus sell the other on ebay or whatever. cause holidays are coming and its gonna be hard to get ur hands on a ps3 anyways. might as well make some extra cash. i mean 600.00 isnt that bad. i mean its also a blu-ray player. blu-ray players from what i read when they come out are gonna range up to $1,000- and up. i mean if u think about it, u'r getting a deal. i'm not so much a fan of the 360 anymore, i sold mine since they had shitty launch titles. i know 4 sure ps3 will deliver.

[DragonSama]

Sony has had my money since day one MGS4 and Final Fantasy XII is too much to resist. Plus with Tekken 6 and Virtua Fighter 5 it was a guaranteed sale for me. I will be buying the $600 one on launch day.

[Worthless]

In the long run,yes i am buying a ps3 however,MGS4 doesn't drop at launch neither does vf5 or to my knowledge DMC4 :/.

But even then that depends on the US launch title list.Does anyone here have a definitive list?

[TheSix]

Madden and Fall of Man would be enough incentive for me to pick it up on launch. Even that would be better than the PS2 launch(not that I did not like SSX...).

[AKUMA2000]

I know i might get shot for saying this but...

Whatever system gets the best version of Madden is the one i'm getting...

And as it stands right now PS3 looks like it's getting the best version...

I HAVE to have a madden game...

Did you read the previews to that shit?!...

*Has a random seizure thinking about Madden*...


I read that preview too, man oh man EA is really putting alot of stuff into the PS3 version of Madden 07'.

I really like the new "a.i. awareness" technology (or whatever its called) that they're using for all their sports games.....gameplay will be enhanced like never before.

I can't wait to play Madden 07' on PS3.

[Superking]

Sony has had my money since day one MGS4 and Final Fantasy XII is too much to resist. Plus with Tekken 6 and Virtua Fighter 5 it was a guaranteed sale for me. I will be buying the $600 one on launch day.

Sorry to catch you again, but don't you mean FFXIII? Because FFXII is a PS2 game. :looney:

[akumachan]

you forgot the option of buying at launch and selling to the idiots who are willing to pay twice as much as retail.

^_^

did it for PS2, and I look forward to doing it again for PS3. I can make a good 1000-2000 depending on how many I can get my hands on at launch.

[spideyman]

i plan on getting 2 on launch. keeping one and selling other. anybody know if u can pick your color when u reserve?

[Mert]

Anybody else not buying any next-gen systems? I think none of them are worth what their priced, personally.

[monbaby]

you forgot the option of buying at launch and selling to the idiots who are willing to pay twice as much as retail.

^_^

did it for PS2, and I look forward to doing it again for PS3. I can make a good 1000-2000 depending on how many I can get my hands on at launch.



The Queen has returned!...

Bless me with a response oh highness!!!...

:pray: :pray: :pray:

Unless you want me to serenade you with a song!....

[Master Chibi]

:rofl: :rofl:

The fuck are you laughing at?

You ever play Ratchet and Clank?

The quality of the games are astounding, but what's even more absurd is that they were all released within almost a year of one another consecutively. I can't even beging to understand how immensley awesome R&C on the PS3 would be.

And I mention this game because it shows to me that the actual FUN games aren't yet lost on the PS3, because since word of PS3 had come out and screenshots were thrown around and videos were being leaked, it was FPS / RACING / what have you game after another. Beautiful, realistic games, that in the end were a bit too serious for me to bother showing interest.

On the PS2 I played 9 games religiously, from three different series, that just showed how much fucking fun games can be. Sly Cooper, Jak, and Ratchet and Clank. So when news of R&C coming to the PS3 arrived at my ears, well then I decided hell yeah I'd buy a PS3 for it.

Oh, and though it contrasts my earlier statement of realism (somewhat) the team behind ICO and SHADOW OF THE COLOSSUS are also on board with the PS3, and it's not even with PROBABLE HUMAN MENTAL CAPACITY to imagine what they're going to do on the PS3, what with there being no need to worry about framerate and all that anymore. That too is perfect reason to buy the damn system.

[Superking]

In the long run,yes i am buying a ps3 however,MGS4 doesn't drop at launch neither does vf5 or to my knowledge DMC4 :/.

But even then that depends on the US launch title list.Does anyone here have a definitive list?

Right now many launch lists have been popping up, but the only game that is definitely going to be available at launch for PS3 is RR7, oddly enough a Ridge Racer game is alway seen as a launch title (Ridge Racer - PS1, Ridge Racer V - PS2, Ridge Racers - PSP, Ridge Racer DS - DS, Ridge Racer 6 - X360).

[spideyman]

is the US only getting the black one?

[akumachan]

mert: i never buy next gen systems until at least a year after they are out. They are never worth what they priced at launch, and the software is always buggy and inferior to later models. You are basically paying for the right to tell your friends that you had one at launch, which IMO kinda makes people look like fools.

mon: consider yourself blessed. But not blessed enough for an individual reply. :p

and MAster Chibi speaks truth about Ratchet and Clank. R&C 2 was IMO the best game that came out that year, and all the games have been high quality games. (but i dontknow about that new one.. i didnt play it. but if Insomniac made a ratchet for ps3 id be all over it. and it has to be insomniac. no outsourcing that shit to another developer like Spyro. oh and insomniac runs circles around naughty dog.

[Taito]

Damn I missed a goldmine back when the PSP launched.. I just bought one for myself and didn't even think about scalping on eBay..

[monbaby]

Oh, and though it contrasts my earlier statement of realism (somewhat) the team behind ICO and SHADOW OF THE COLOSSUS are also on board with the PS3, and it's not even with PROBABLE HUMAN MENTAL CAPACITY to imagine what they're going to do on the PS3, what with there being no need to worry about framerate and all that anymore. That too is perfect reason to buy the damn system.



Weren't you the dude bitchin about ICO not making SRK's top 50 list?...

Yeah that is you huh...

I love ICO and Shadow of the Colossusn as much as anyone else...

But you are a Scrub...

besides Madden is the only reason to get a PS3...

*Has another seizure thinking about madden*...

[Master Chibi]

The Ratchet and Clank series is (and I'll be flamed to hell for this) IMHO the best series to own on the PS3. The games just got so damn good, you knew that they loved making the game as much as they did paying attention to what NEEDED TO BE FIXED instead of what THEY WANTED TO CHANGE. So all the good stuff is left in tact, the bad stuff is fixed, and even more new shit is added. It was just an incredibly fun series of games. Really amazing work.

[Master Chibi]

Weren't you the dude bitchin about ICO not making SRK's top 50 list?...

Yeah that is you huh...

I love ICO and Shadow of the Colossusn as much as anyone else...

But you are a Scrub...



The hell?

I'm a scrub, where did that come from?

Did you lose a pet to Ico / SotC or some shit, I mean damn, I can't see any reason why you'd bother to 'insult' me for it otherwise.

[Jaldaboath]

I will buy it but until next year, I might consider it at U$600, but the fact is that consoles here in the third world always end up costing triple at launch and I'm not paying U$1600 for it.
And I have to get it on the underground market, 'cause the regular business want to charge me $500 for a damn PSP, I don't even want to know how much they'l be charging me for this one.

Also, two things: First, Sony's first console batches suck ass always. Second, I want to see how the Vista + "Games for Windows"+ "Mobile with Windows" stuff sorts out, I might tap into that instead.

[DropOff]

Psh, with the lessons learned from the 360 launch do you guys really think that reselling on ebay is going to get you that much? I predict a e-market saturation where you would be lucky to make 100 bucks profit. So if your willing to wait outside for a couple a days for 100 dollars... More power to you.

...Wii on launch.

[monbaby]

The hell?

I'm a scrub, where did that come from?

Did you lose a pet to Ico / SotC or some shit, I mean damn, I can't see any reason why you'd bother to 'insult' me for it otherwise.



It was a dark and stormy night...

The wind was howling like a lonewolf while the pine trees wee slaping against my window like a janitor vigorously sweeping the floor with a straw broom...

It was horrifying...

I was in my room playing ICO to past the time...

Since the PS2 is one of the things that comforts me during times of trauma and madness...

My cat Fluffly was sleeping on the bed in her usuall fetal position leaving all sorts of particles of white hair on the bedspread...

Then it happened...

Thunderous Lightning struck the pine tree next to my house sending my dear sweet fluffly into a madening frenzy...

She was terrified...

her big blue eyes looked as though they would shed a tear while she was running aroun in circles looking for cover...

And at that same moment a Huge Blinding Light from My tv screen Blinded Her sending her into an even more extreme frenzy...

She didn't ask to die from a siezure from playing video games...

She didn't want to DIE because i was playing ICO...

The beautiful mystifying graphics of ICO Killed my Cat...

I will never be able to forgive that game or others who like the game...

*Me pours out some crown royal for Fluffy*...:sad:

[platinum_pinoy]

Psh, with the lessons learned from the 360 launch do you guys really think that reselling on ebay is going to get you that much? I predict a e-market saturation where you would be lucky to make 100 bucks profit. So if your willing to wait outside for a couple a days for 100 dollars... More power to you.

...Wii on launch.

I predict that Sony will limit one PS3 per customer or some shit.

[Kyoujin]

Nope, not only is the price a huge factor, but I'm not too interested in most of thier titles. The only game that looks interesting to me thus far is of course Metal Gear Solid 4.
I never had any interest in PS3, I've always wanted a Wii.
After finding out about Twilight Princess, Super Smash Bros, and One Piece, I was sold. Plus, the price tag is more in my range.

[Kumiho]

Chibi you orange juice loving bastard you didn't even mention Guilty Gear *shakes fist*

Yah I may get it on launch but I'm pretty broke.

Truly tragic monbaby.

[Infested Jester]

The Ratchet and Clank series is (and I'll be flamed to hell for this) IMHO the best series to own on the PS3. The games just got so damn good, you knew that they loved making the game as much as they did paying attention to what NEEDED TO BE FIXED instead of what THEY WANTED TO CHANGE. So all the good stuff is left in tact, the bad stuff is fixed, and even more new shit is added. It was just an incredibly fun series of games. Really amazing work.

QFT :china:


Psh, with the lessons learned from the 360 launch do you guys really think that reselling on ebay is going to get you that much? I predict a e-market saturation where you would be lucky to make 100 bucks profit. So if your willing to wait outside for a couple a days for 100 dollars... More power to you.

...Wii on launch.

If you preorder it why would you have to wait in line for days? I had my PS2 preordered at launch and I waited in line with the rest of the preorder people for about 30 minutes. As for the market being saturated I'm not too concerned, you can always sell it outside a Toys R Us or be real cruel and wait til XMas Eve to drop it, I'm not too worried. :wink:

[Wellman]

I might get the system if the price comes down reasonably and it has some good games.

However for now, I am probably going to buy a 360, Wii and maybe a Dreamcast before I buy a PS3.

[RoninChaos]

Man, I hope it doesn't backfire on some of you guys. Everybody is saying they'll buy two, one for them, and one to sell, and others are like "I'll buy it, just to sell it." I hope none of you get fucked because everybody else is buying it just to sell it.

[Etcetera]

Man, I hope it doesn't backfire on some of you guys. Everybody is saying they'll buy two, one for them, and one to sell, and others are like "I'll buy it, just to sell it." I hope none of you get fucked because everybody else is buying it just to sell it.
That is the thing that I would imagine happening... but then again, I said the same thing with the 360 and the ps2 before that. :sweat:
Sony might as well cut out the middle man and sell them on ebay themselves and save a few bucks since they are losing money with the hardware cost.

[Mr Mort]

mert: i never buy next gen systems until at least a year after they are out. They are never worth what they priced at launch, and the software is always buggy and inferior to later models. You are basically paying for the right to tell your friends that you had one at launch, which IMO kinda makes people look like fools.

Eh, I sort of disagree there. Depending on the launch software, it may be legitemately worth it to some folks. I was one of the few who actually paid $400 for a Saturn at right at launch, and it was worth every penny. VF, Panzer Dragoon and Daytona alone where worth it. I simply couldn't wait, and I played the shit out of my Saturn. On the flipside, I baught my PS2 on launch day, returned both games I baught for it because they sucked, and had zero games for it for six months until Zone of the Enders came out. My PS2 sat on my shelf & collected dust for six months. A mistake on my part.
So, if a console has a strong launch lineup with games you MUST play, I think it may be worth it to some gamers to get a console at launch.

Now for the topic at hand: I know myself well. I love games. No matter how much I dislike Sony's practices, I'll eventually break down and buy a PS3. VF5 is a system seller for me. I love the series to death. Would I pay over $650 (game + console + tax) for it? Eh, I don't think so. I'm going to wait until one price drop or about one year, whichever comes first. The biggest allure for me for the PS3 are VF5, T6, and RR7. Besides, there are still some unanswered questions. How reliable is the online play? Yes it may be free, but a wise lesson in life is: "you get what you pay for" Plus I'm bummed about how the $500 is raped in comparison to the $600 model. I thought MS was segmenting their consumers with the Core & HD 360's, but this is almost as bad. Also, is any version the PS3 going to have any memory card ports for the PS/PS2 compatibility? I have a feeling Sony is not giving us the full picture.

As for the Wii, I'm sold on it. Launch purchase for me. Metroid Prime 3, Mario, and hopefully a new F-Zero at some point. But more than anything, I'm excited about how you play games on the Wii. After seeing people using the controller and the different ways in which the controller can be used, I think it's fucking brilliant and amazing. Nintendo is going to redeem themselves and more. They really are trying to innovate, and this time, I think their quirkiness is going to pay off. They seem to have a good amount of 3rd party support this time, and developers seem genuinely excited about the platform.

All in all, the upcoming console wars are going to be most exciting. Lots of controversy, new technologies and ideologies are emerging. Every console seems to have its own focus of sorts. Xbox 360 is focusing on Live, community, online play, and downloadable games/content. Wii is obviously big on the kinetic control, and simple to play but fun gameplay. The PS3, I'm not so sure what their angle is beyond trying to bring you truly next-gen technology today. What do you all think?

P.S. That Kaylie chick on G4 is fucking gorgeous.

[Riot Guard]

Buying at least three at launch. If they are gonna be going for what 360s were on ebay the first week ($1200-1500) I'm gonna cash in like a mother. If anything is good at launch I'll keep one for myself, if not I'll sell all of them and just keep the cash.

That's a good idea, otherwise it's not worth it. The PSP is overpriced and a let down. Sony's going to get humbled by Nintendo's highly affordable price and creativity with the controller get up.

[Superking]

People should just stop using VF5 in their "I won't pay $600 just to play games on a PS3" thing, since the PS3 is the only other alternative in playing that game. Unless instead of paying $600 to play VF5 on PS3, you have $6000 lying around to buy the Lindbergh VF5.

[Mr Mort]

People should just stop using VF5 in their "I won't pay $600 just to play games on a PS3" thing, since the PS3 is the only other alternative in playing that game. Unless instead of paying $600 to play VF5 on PS3, you have $6000 lying around to buy the Lindbergh VF5.

That is the kind of mentality that allows companies to monopolize their respective market. "We're the only company that has what you want, and we're going to make you pay dearly for it"

Additionally, I won't pay $600 for a console JUST to play VF5. I may consider paying $600 to play VF5, T6, RR7, MGS4, and more. One game alone cannot justify the purchase of a console, especially a pricey one. It's going to take a number of must-have titles.


On a side-note, if MS were to announce a price drop on the 360 within the next 6 months it would definately put at least a small hurting on Sony.

[Shade]

People should just stop using VF5 in their "I won't pay $600 just to play games on a PS3" thing, since the PS3 is the only other alternative in playing that game. Unless instead of paying $600 to play VF5 on PS3, you have $6000 lying around to buy the Lindbergh VF5.

I love you.

[Superking]

That is the kind of mentality that allows companies to monopolize their respective market. "We're the only company that has what you want, and we're going to make you pay dearly for it"

Additionally, I won't pay $600 for a console JUST to play VF5. I may consider paying $600 to play VF5, T6, RR7, MGS4, and more. One game alone cannot justify the purchase of a console, especially a pricey one. It's going to take a number of must-have titles.




That may be true, but letting all the consoles have all the same games with no exclusives = boring, unoriginal thinking. That's kinda similar to the whole argument about game balance in fighting games.

Anyway enough about that, from the looks of it, the only real complaint about the PS3 and where most if not all of its hate comes from is its huge price tag. Well, for the people who are turned off by the price tag, you should all remember that nobody is forcing you to buy one, or any other console. It's not like these companies have you people by the balls and are threatening to torture and murder your family unless you buy their stuff. And just because you don't want one or don't plan to get one, doesn't mean that everybody shares your same opinion on things, and you don't have to go on a sad, fanboy crusade on hating a video game company for superficial reasons.

I mean, we don't want anymore people becoming like VGEmblem here. :rofl: :rofl:


Shade: :lovin:

[Septimus Prime]

From what I hear, it's going to be hard to score multiple PS3s (like I said, y'all missed out already if you're just now planning to hop the bandwagon). I believe EB/Gamestop will only allow one pre-order per customer for all stores (so you can't pre-order one at one store and another at another), so you're most likely looking at pre-ordering and lining up outside Fry's/Best Buy/whatever for it.

This is, of course, assuming that there's going to be a supply shortage at all, what with lukewarm interest due to PS3's price. PSP was totally easy to just walk in and buy when it came out.

[ParryAll]

For the record I voted yes. I will have one on launch. I will have 5 of them, actually. All of which will be sold on Ebay.

So my vote is a bit misleading, because I certainly will not be keeping one as 600 dollars is a huge rip off, and there aren't any decent games coming until at least mid 2007.

[mr. newbie]

the smartest thing to do is what happend when i waited for my 360. buy the console then sell it in the parking lot right when best buy opens the next day. all the idiots who think they can stroll in and buy a console will have no choice but you. i've seen it work in matter of minutes.

i'm getting the 60gb launch day. i love being an early adopter. screw the haters.

[MrQuotes]

ill get it, but like any other console i've gotten, im gonna wait until the eventual release of a title i know i want to get(FF, MGS4 etc.), and probably get the ps3 a few months before then

[Disciple of Ryu]

Yeah I'm getting one on launch if I can snag one. I already have the money for it. It's kinda off funny to me that people are complaining about the price considering just a short while ago everyone was talking about how it had to be atleast $1000 because it had Blu-ray, now Sony has dropped it for 400-500 bucks cheaper (probably taking a huuuuge hit per unit) and people are still bitching.

Personally I think the PS3 is worth it even if their are only 1 or 2 killer launch games because let's get real, most people on buy like 1 game a month, if that, and maybe my family was too poor but when I was little, I normally only got a videogame on my birthday and Christmas. What difference does it make if the launch lineup isn't strong when you won't be building up your game library until the games start hitting the bargin bins anyway? I felt the PS2 was worth buying on day one, simply because I'm a huge Tekken fan, SSX was the greatest game ever made for awhile, and because of backwards compatiblity. Folks, PS2 games are still coming out and you'll probably be able to play them emulated with shorter load times and slightly enhanced graphics. I found many hidden PS1 gems after the PS2 launched I'm sure it'll be the same way with the PS3. Is good backwards compatibitity worth 600 bucks? No, but you're getting a budget Blu-Ray player, a PS1 & PS2, the most powerful gaming system (if not by much), free online gaming, ect. Isn't the PS3 supposed to have Tivo like function too? It's worth it IMO but hey, I'm just a gamer.

My only real grips about the PS3 are that it doesn't seem as powerful as I was hopeing it would be but then I'm not too suprised. And secondly no Tekken 6 at launch...Namco Bandai & Sony have failed my. /cry


Originally posted by Kyoji:
"That may be true, but letting all the consoles have all the same games with no exclusives = boring, unoriginal thinking. That's kinda similar to the whole argument about game balance in fighting games."

Word, companies like Neversoft sicken me. They just port the same game to every console alive. Sure everyone gets their games for their systems but that development time and money could be better spent making new titles. One of the worst parts of the 360 launch was that pretty much every game of intrest on it you could find on another system or PC so why spend 60 bucks on it?

[DanielLarusso]

I have been the biggest PlayStation whore since I first got the original way back. This is the first time I've EVER felt that Sony may have bit off more than they can chew. I honestly can't say with all certainty that the PS will be the top selling console of the next generation, as it as been for the past two.

Never count them out, but when I'M considering not picking the thing up, that's a red flag.

[Shin-RoTeNdO]

I may be a hardcore gamer, but I'm not a hardcore spender. $600=clothes for my kids, insurance, bills, and a Wii ^_^

You should really rephrase your poll question... (4) yes' and (2) no's? It's either a yes, or a no... but I guess it wouldnt' be SRK if it made sense.

[Infested Jester]

To answer the problem of not being able to buy multiple systems, just bring a friend with you when you pre-order and pick it up. Have them put it in their name, simple.

As for not being able to sell it for a lot, worst case scenario is you return it or sell it for what its worth, no loss except a trip to the store. I'm still confident I'm gonna rip some people off big time though.

[BIG BEEF!]

NO. More than likely I well wait a year or tow to buy one. That or stand outside my local walmart/mall with a gack and just rob someone blind who knows.

[akumachan]

Psh, with the lessons learned from the 360 launch do you guys really think that reselling on ebay is going to get you that much? I predict a e-market saturation where you would be lucky to make 100 bucks profit. So if your willing to wait outside for a couple a days for 100 dollars... More power to you.

...Wii on launch.


its all about selling outside the store when you leave. THATS where you sell it. If you get one on the morning of launch, then invariably there will be severl schmucks standing outside the store in the hopes of scalping one from one of the many people exiting the store. And they will have cash in hand.

With PS2, thats how I sold my two. The second i walked out of best buy the someone offered me like 7 or 800 for my ps2 right then and there. I sold it of course. The guy handed me all hundreds. It was great.

[forgenjuro]

its all about selling outside the store when you leave. THATS where you sell it. If you get one on the morning of launch, then invariably there will be severl schmucks standing outside the store in the hopes of scalping one from one of the many people exiting the store. And they will have cash in hand.

With PS2, thats how I sold my two. The second i walked out of best buy the someone offered me like 7 or 800 for my ps2 right then and there. I sold it of course. The guy handed me all hundreds. It was great.

I wonder if I'll be able to do this here in Japan....

On one hand im sure theyll be more people wanting to buy a PS3 over here....

On the other hand Im not sure if theyll be inclined to pay THAT much more ...

Sony's not planning a global launch are they? I can at least get a buyer on Ebay if its released in Japan first.

[Superking]

I wonder if I'll be able to do this here in Japan....

On one hand im sure theyll be more people wanting to buy a PS3 over here....

On the other hand Im not sure if theyll be inclined to pay THAT much more ...

Sony's not planning a global launch are they? I can at least get a buyer on Ebay if its released in Japan first.

Yes they are planning a global launch, all in the month of November.

Japan = Nov. 11
North America = Nov. 17 IIRC
Europe = Nov. 24 IIRC

[AL the great]

its all about selling outside the store when you leave. THATS where you sell it. If you get one on the morning of launch, then invariably there will be severl schmucks standing outside the store in the hopes of scalping one from one of the many people exiting the store. And they will have cash in hand.

With PS2, thats how I sold my two. The second i walked out of best buy the someone offered me like 7 or 800 for my ps2 right then and there. I sold it of course. The guy handed me all hundreds. It was great.

that's actually a real good idea and probably the best idea to resell. my friend did this once too and some guy followed him home and begged to buy his ps2 for a grand cash. too good.

ok guys here is the problem and here are my thoughts on people reselling the ps3. recently with new systems out like the DS and psp it was real easy to go in and get it. when the ds first came out it TOTALLY sold out. it was going for 200-250+ but right before christmas nintendo shipped another huge batch and ebay was saturated. lots of people lost money and got suckered. and no they didn't get their full money back because ebay charges you up the ass for fees and paypal does also.

i have a feeling that the ps3 will be the same. there will be plenty of stock OR they will restock it after a shortage. i say this because of no.1 the articles i've been reading online sony saying they'll have more than plenty in stock and that they wont make the same mistake Microsoft did no.2 the sony conference they also basicly said that. no3 the price tag is very verrrryyy iffy. now....on the other hand the 360 DID make it to the 1000 dollar mark right before christmas but that was a huge shortage and i IMO it hit that much and lots of people wanted it because it was the 1st next gen system out. the ps3 has failed the hype so far to me. lets do another scenario. ok, lets have the ps3 completely sold out and no one can get it like the xbox2, ps2, ds. Then yes i do see a huge profit on ebay because it still will hit at least 1000 dollars and up. right now it's real real iffy to flip this soley just because sony said there will be plenty of stock. and with 600 dollars up front i'm very shocked people are willing to gamble with that much money honestly.

for many gambling that money, it's either HEY i got free rent and a free ps3 OR well i'm homeless time to stab myself.

[bill_rizer]

^^
hustling anit easy, you use money to make more money, of course you could end up losing some, but its all part of the game.

[Infested Jester]

^^
hustling anit easy, you use money to make more money, of course you could end up losing some, but its all part of the game.

In this case though you can just return it to the store and get your money back. If it looks grim and nobody is biting on ebay or outside my local stores I'll just return it for a full refund. I can't see how anyone could actually lose money on this deal by investing in one or two systems.

[aznflict]

for me, it's not even about the price. i'd gladly pay $300-500 for the PS3, then another $200 on games/accessories. i'm not rich, but i can save, and i'm a gamer.

however, i will wait a year or two to get the PS3. why? because Sony has one of the WORST records when it comes to their 1st/2nd/3rd generation hardware.

PSX = it took almost 10 years (with the release of the white PSone) to FINALLY build hardware that doesn't have any flaws.

PS2 = same deal, but it took about 5 years (with the release of the slim PStwo) to FINALLY make a machine that rarely suffers from earlier PS2 problems (DREs, blue-disc madness, etc)

PSP = don't even get me started on the X button retardation... also, i realize all handhelds suffer from dead pixels, but the early PSP's dead pixel problems was just unacceptable.

Please don't think i'm hating on Sony. i own alot of their hardware (not just gameing hardware), and i think that the PS3 will be reliable, well built machine.... about 7 years from now.

[AL the great]

In this case though you can just return it to the store and get your money back. If it looks grim and nobody is biting on ebay or outside my local stores I'll just return it for a full refund. I can't see how anyone could actually lose money on this deal by investing in one or two systems.

you can still lose money even returning the systems. the fees on ebay for 600 dollars combined with paypal is alot. but honestly even lets say you return to the store to get your money back you wont be losing more than 100 bux from the listings for 2 sys.

AZNflict:
the psone actually has overheating problems if you play it too long with rpgs. my friend and i had one and it would act up after hours of rpg. i also have a fat ps1 from 5000 series (the middle ones) and those never failed me. i even left one on for over night replaying intros all night.

[SNkNuT]

if the 20 gig version was $400 and the 60 gig was $500 i think that would have been more reasonable.

[Baron Samedi]

man, imagine in candian dollars!

this shit is gonna cost 800 bucks!

[Taito]

..Okay so Phil Harrison is saying in a Gamepro interview that both PS3s WILL support 1080p.. technically its possible for analog component to carry a 1080p signal, but BD movies aren't licensed to permit any signal higher than 1080i..

..So I guess it's your call over what's more important.. if you're just worried about games, the $500 PS3's gonna give you the full 1080p on your HDTV.. but if you want to see Blu-ray movies running full-resolution on your PS3 (and there's a significant difference between interlaced and progressive video), you're gonna have to supersize it.

..The PS3 is still kind of a gimped BD player, but the $500 model doesn't sound so bad anymore (taking out of the equation the expensive ass 'bundles' that stores like to force on customers)..

Anyway, here's the Gamepro interview:

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=55089

[ZERO Shift]

Anybody who has ever paid out the ass for an expensive graphics card (I found one on Gamespot that runs $49 more than the PS3 basic console) should have no problem buying a console that is going to last you 7+ years.

I voted save up and snag next year.

[The Invincible Swordsman]

Look.... don't get me wrong..... I love the future library that the PS3 represents. MGS4, Tekken 6, VF5, Madden (especially Madden, I've been wanting to be a suitable offensive lineman for years!), probably God of War 3, etc. But......

There's no way I can explain to my wife that I just spent $400-$500 on a videogame system and have her be happy. Even if I put it on credit, I'd feel guilty and tell her or she'd find out anyway.


This has been THE INVINCIBLE SWORDSMAN saying:

Hell...... I still won't get a 360 because of the price tag.

[akumachan]

that's actually a real good idea and probably the best idea to resell. my friend did this once too and some guy followed him home and begged to buy his ps2 for a grand cash. too good.

ok guys here is the problem and here are my thoughts on people reselling the ps3. recently with new systems out like the DS and psp it was real easy to go in and get it. when the ds first came out it TOTALLY sold out. it was going for 200-250+ but right before christmas nintendo shipped another huge batch and ebay was saturated. lots of people lost money and got suckered. and no they didn't get their full money back because ebay charges you up the ass for fees and paypal does also.

i have a feeling that the ps3 will be the same. there will be plenty of stock OR they will restock it after a shortage. i say this because of no.1 the articles i've been reading online sony saying they'll have more than plenty in stock and that they wont make the same mistake Microsoft did no.2 the sony conference they also basicly said that. no3 the price tag is very verrrryyy iffy. now....on the other hand the 360 DID make it to the 1000 dollar mark right before christmas but that was a huge shortage and i IMO it hit that much and lots of people wanted it because it was the 1st next gen system out. the ps3 has failed the hype so far to me. lets do another scenario. ok, lets have the ps3 completely sold out and no one can get it like the xbox2, ps2, ds. Then yes i do see a huge profit on ebay because it still will hit at least 1000 dollars and up. right now it's real real iffy to flip this soley just because sony said there will be plenty of stock. and with 600 dollars up front i'm very shocked people are willing to gamble with that much money honestly.

for many gambling that money, it's either HEY i got free rent and a free ps3 OR well i'm homeless time to stab myself.

I agree... the only way that this wont work is if there are plenty of PS3s to meet demand.

The reason why this worked out so well on the PS2 is because there was a massive shortage. Stores only got about 1/3 of the units that they had expected.

If there is no PS3 shortage then this wont be possible.

IMO the shortage worked very much in Sony's favor as well. It built hype that you cant even buy.

-AC

PS sword boy, agreed. I cant justify 500 on a game console. I never have and I never will. I will pay 500 TOTAL for a console extra controller a game and a few other things, but I simply wont pay 500 for just the console.

[jae hoon]

Of course they are only releasing an absurdly low number of PS3's at launch. Not to mention I just dont think I can afford one.

[Zachman]

pc gaming>console

[DaLastDon25]

Go with Craigslist instead of EBay. Just make an ad that goes like this.

PS3 $2000 Get the hottest new hardware just in time for Christmas.

Get a free hotmail account and wait for the offers. I'd also pay a couple big guys 20 bucks a head just for "protection". This reselling racket is going to be big time business this winter and where-ever there's big business going on under the table, there's gonna be some guys that want a piece of it.

[Chaotic Blue]

im hella gettin one. $600 one at launch because i want it. And thats reason enough for me.

Chaotic Blue

[Higher-Jin]

Where's the fuck sony option?

Seriously, I for one will not support a company like Sony because of the way it thinks it can treat it's consumers with it's outrageous new policies and the overall straight out bullshit they think they can get away with.

Fuck. Sony.

I'd get into it, but I just posted in this other thread:

http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3128389&postcount=28

That pretty much sums up my feelings on it, always remember you guys: We do NOT need Sony, Sony needs US.