Have you ever taught someone SF successfully?

[Mokura]

I don't think there's much of a point in trying to teach someone SF; there's WAY too much of a comittment that's required to actually get someone to play it and develop a passion for it. If they don't discover it own their own or have a history with it, chances are they'll just act like they're interested and play with you until y'all stop, then he's done with it. I can't even get anyone to stick with Minesweeper. Has anyone actually taught SF to a friend or someone and saw them stick with it and become a success?

[taiji]

not sf, but i taught reset marvel.. now he owns me in it :sweat:

[Reset]

^ yet the fucker still owns me at cvs2 and st for freeeeee.

god i love nsj

edit- wtf are we doing in FGD?!

[Shin Akuma]

Well I am in the process of teaching a girl how to play SF. She's not really motivated to learn the game seriously as of right now. She's one of the active types that can't sit there for hours and practice. She's also really impatient so that's why she doesnt like CvS2 as mich as 3s.

However, she said she'd enjoy it more once she actually got good at it but I don't see that happening anytime soon since she isn't even motivated to learn. She says she prefers to watch people play or watch match vids.

She does remeber some of the stuff I taught her like taunt usage in 3s and Grooves in CvS2 but it will be a while before she gets good at it.

Since she is a girl, naturally all her characters/teams would consist of all girls. So for 3s she picks Chun-Li cause I told her she was one of the best and easiest characters to learn for begginers. But her execution sucks, bad! So I told her to learn how to execute Chun's standard combo : c.mk xx SA2. Until she can do that consistently , we wouldn't continue any further.

Something that annoys me about her though is that she has a lack of confidence in herself. It's hard enough for me to get her to play one game in front of people.

The first time I tried to teach her, she said she didn't want to learn anymore because I was pushing her too hard and critcizing her about everything.
But yeah, to answer your qyestion, as of right now my experience isn't that successful. But hey, all in due time.

[#reload]

i taught my friend's little brother how to play smash and he's pretty good at it now

[nothingxs]

I taught a friend how to play KOF. He could testify to it too.

Also, my friend's sister pretty much learned some basics from him and created her own Ibuki style, if I remember correctly. Shit's the hotness.

[Best Kind Boxer]

Well I am in the process of teaching a girl how to play SF. She's not really motivated to learn the game seriously as of right now. She's one of the active types that can't sit there for hours and practice. She's also really impatient so that's why she doesnt like CvS2 as mich as 3s.


Dude. I hope she gives you some sexin'.

Any chick who's willing to sit with a guy to learn SF is not there to only learn SF imo.

[Perfect Cell]

I was taught by 2 members on the board back in the mid 90's. Now I'm better than one of them in just about everything but MvC1&2 games because I don't give a shit about it, and I'm about equal with the other one in everything but MvC!&2 because I don't give a shit about it.

About 2 years ago I taught someone CvS2 and KoF, in about 2 weeks of play in a game he never played before, he surpassed me with certain characters. It was the fastest I've ever seen anyone learn a game that technical, he truly was born with a gift to play 2-D fighters. He also progressed very quickly in the KoF's but to this day hasn't reached my level of skill.

I also taught my mom Tekken, she's fair at it with most characters, and very good with eddie (big suprize). She plays SF now and again, but lacks any type of motivation to get good at it, she says the buttons hurt her hands when she plays it, I say she's full of bullshit, she just doesn't like the game I bet. On a side note: I suspect her favorite character is Yamazaki despite the fact that she acts like it's King (AoF).

[Perfect Cell]

Dude. I hope she gives you some sexin'.

Any chick who's willing to sit with a guy to learn SF is not there to only learn SF imo.

Oh yea, and I agree with boxer, she doesn't give a shit about SF, she does give a shit about you, just bone her if you haven't alrdy.

[TarkanX]

I tried to get someone into fighting games... in the end, he stole my SFA3, Rival Schools, and MvC1 games; I never saw him after that day.

[Azagtoth]

I taught a friend how to play KOF. He could testify to it too.

Also, my friend's sister pretty much learned some basics from him and created her own Ibuki style, if I remember correctly. Shit's the hotness.

His "KOF for Dummies" 2 hour crash course indeed did work for me. =P

[Khiempossible]

I got my friend to move from SC2 after it died to 3s (yes, despite the fact that I hate this game). I said learn 3s. he said ok. I said www.shoryuken.com. He said aight. Now he's learning and stuff.

[GGL-steve]

I taught my wife and her friends to play SF

[ShinVegeta_Py]

my wife traning in 3s right now!! she play as Ryu SA3!!....................=)

[AKUMA2000]

Taught my grandaughter how to play SFA2 and SFA3.

[Dark Geese]

I enjoy teaching people how to play fighting games in general..though I am an SNK buff I believe the concept of fighting games is one in the same...many things are universal which is why I can play KOF, Sam Shodown, Alpha 3, 3s,T5, Sc3, Garou, ST, NGBC, ROTD, Last Blade and more you get the picture...

it all starts with fundamentals..and in order to get good you must have the passion above all..then my formula breaks down like this:

50% knowledge (forums, match vids, doing research, experimentation)
50% application-Playing good people/better than you, tournaments, EXPERIENCE.

All this can help you get good...but without the passion and the dedication to go as far as you want to go...you may be just average...bc in order to be one of the greats or even better than good you've gotta go the extra mile..bc in this day and age everyone jocks match vids and stuff like that..play like everyone else and you will be just like everyone else..so dont be cookie cutter,..use the match vids and knowledge as a frame work..NOT THE BE ALL how to play..develop your own style..find what fits you..dont do it just bc "such and such is top tier and Daigo plays Ken this way or Justin Wong plays Chun this way so I GOTTA PLAY THIS WAY'

Thats gay. I play Chun Li very different than most people in 3s...does that mean I am a "scrub" or use "scrub tactics" bc I do that? Nope..I play how it suits me...and my Chun is RUSHDOWN. All that matter is results anyways...so style of play doesnt matter as long as it gets the job done.

As far as being the best in concerned..that takes time and dedication and goes back to going above and beyond what the regular people do..and when you are defeated getting back up and coming back stronger...


EDIT: IMO, the people that are the best aka your top players write the book (figuratively and literally speaking like Valle, Choi, Mopreme, Daigo etc) in other words they come up with the groundbreaking stuff, they think outside the box(are not afraid to try something different/Crazy or unconventional), they are "leaders not followers." They lead the masses with new stuff..which begs the question for everyone, since to each his/her own and whatever you choose is your decision-


Are you a leader or a follower??? I am a leader...


-Dark Geese

[CapMaster]

Yes I have. Maybe I'm a better teacher then player

[FMJaguar]

Thats gay. I play Chun Li very different than most people in 3s...does that mean I am a "scrub" or use "scrub tactics" bc I do that? Nope..I play how it suits me...and my Chun is RUSHDOWN. All that matter is results anyways...so style of play doesnt matter as long as it gets the job done.

looks for these results...
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All this can help you get good...[...]develop your own style..find what fits you..dont do it just bc "such and such is top tier and Daigo plays Ken this way or Justin Wong plays Chun this way so I GOTTA PLAY THIS WAY'

People are way too concerned with copying someone, to the point where they hinder their own skillset. A lot of people make poor decisions and take BAD risks because they care too much about appearing to be like someone.

I say go for it, if you want to copy Justin's chun, go ahead. Just remember that his chun is actually good, so if you want to copy it, you have to be good too. Justin's chun is top 2 at evo, member of the sbo team, etc.. etc.. if you want to copy that i don't see how anyone can be against it.

Are you a leader or a follower??? I am a leader...

IMO "there are no good leaders who are not good followers"

[The Switcher]

I used to be pretty horrible at teaching. When the early fighting game boom came out, and I wanted to show someone how to do it.

In the last year or two when I was playing 3rd Strike a lot, my girlfriend actually want ed to know how to play. She loves Elena, which isn't really the best character to start with. And while she had a lot of trouble at the start...(this was a few months ago) when she picked up the controller again just a few days ago, and I was teaching her Super Arts, I made sure to watch what she was doing, rather then the screen.

Once she does the first-quarter circle, her thumb flies off the control pad, then slides back down to do the 2nd quarter circle. So I simply said, "No, you're thumb goes too far off, keep it on the "forward" direction, then slide back down quickly to do it again"

Right after that, she was able to do Spinning Beats all night.

[white shadow]

I taught my friend Marvel and he's as good as me pretty much.:pleased:

[phoenixnl]

The only game I could actually 'teach' someone is guilty gear, and I have. When I just got it, I showed it to my girlfriend, and she loved it. Right now she's around the same level as me. But in the beginning I did scare her a bit with all the technical stuff like RC's and FRC's... but we just kept on playing and after a while she started trying the technical stuff. She's not to motivated to try combo's in Training mode though. She likes to experiment on live subjects... like me :D

I got another friend of mine into Guilty Gear, but that was more like:
Me: check this out
He: wow that's so cool! (gets the game)
and from then he and me taught the game by ourselves :)

[Thongboy Bebop]

Nah, I don't teach for shit.

N

[Rhio2k]

I taught a guy in the Air Force how to play MSH, and a little Nightwarriors, but I got a general discharge before his education was complete. I can't teach my cousins shit. They just want to grab the controller and mash EVERYTHING wildly while jerking their bodies all over the place. Maybe cuz they're girls...who knows?

[Dark Geese]

I agree with you FMJaguar totally..as far as the results thing I was taking a stab at someone who if they read this thread will know EXACTLY what I was talking about.. that whole results "scrub tactics" thing was an inside joke....

Yes I agree to be a leader you've gotta follow sometime..but some people judge someone because they don't do "such and such" and this and that ....or say "you use scrub tactics because you use Rushdown Chun in 3s"..well damn if I get top three in the tourney does it matter???

Thats my shout out..but I agree..too many people waste time being copycats...and that hurts everything as well as match vids because everyone is trying to be like someone else and not be original...


About coyping I totally agree..I use the styles of ALL players as my base..but not everything to me...I want to be different...have my own flair...

You've gotta be good to begin with to copy someone point blank....I just think too many people as you say focus on copying too much and not thinking for their own selves...I think there needs to be a balance...

And an old adage rings true "There is nothing you've done that hasnt been done before..." but its still good to try to develop your own style.. I mean geez heaven forbid look at all the post-TS6 Denjin Ryus in my area...Jesus..not everyone can do it like Mopreme-Alex Valle...lol.

And I develop my own style based off what suits me...what many others do..what I know etc...

[dfoo]

Well my friend and I are doing self-teaching.

[xjester]

Yes I have. Maybe I'm a better teacher then player
I have to agree with that.
Ive taught Virtua Fighter 4 (Not that crazy frame counting shit), CvS2, and GGXX.
Both people seemed to grasp basic concepts and enjoy it.

[goodm0urning]

I've helped turn one of m friends from a total novice into the beginnings of a good competitor.

I have to admit, the credit's probably due less to my teaching skills and more because I let him borrow my B4 tapes.

[Anime12478]

I have never taught anyone any sort of fighting game since I am in the process of learning them myself, but I have taught people in other games. One of the most frustrating things for me is when people want your help but don't learn how to do it.

The way that I like to teach is to go over the basics of whatever they are doing and then let them figure out the rest for themselves. The whole, "Feed the man a fish and he eats for a day but teach the man to fish and he eats forever," rings as 100% true to me.

When I become good at fighting games, I hope that I never forget the progress that I went through in order to become good. With that in mind, I would just go over the aspects of the games and how they are used and then have them practice on live and still targets to get the feel for how they work.

I can see dedication being a problem. In a world where we can get information in seconds, it's sometimes easy to forget that not everything comes easy. I have fallen victim to that many times myself. I would put that little disclaimer in before I teach anyone anything dealing with fighitng games.

[IzunaDrop]

I got my girlfriend into 2d fighters(she was heavily into SCII at the time). Introduced her to SFII. She got hooked(playing as Cammy and Chun on AE.) I began teaching her CvS2, and a few others as well. She really likes the games(but she's hooked on DDR now, so I think she's pretty much over them unfortunately...that is...until AA comes out. I'll be having her play that like crazy...hopefully she'll get hooked again.) When she was playing often with me, she was very good. Her favorite by far is any KOF. She LOVES those games. She's pretty close to being equal to me on a lot of the games. She just catches on so fast. She has Sakura, Morrigan, and Cammy action figures in her room even. She also bought AE, CvS2, KOF 2001 & 2000(well, a present from me), and a few others. I think she'll be back when she misses them enough(probably will be soon.)

I also have taught a friend of mine the basics(specials, supers, etc.) He plays Yang and Ryu on 3s and Ryu & Ken on ST. Plays Ryu, Ken, and Sagat on CvS2. He's okay. His best games is probably MvC2 however. He plays Dr. Doom, Venom, and Ironman(or War Machine.) He does okay, but he still gets schooled by my Megaman...well...all of my characters. He's not equal to me on any of the games, and honestly, he's not even close at all. It's okay though. At least he likes the games.

[Atryu]

I started fighting games with Super SF II and moved to KOF 95, samurai spirits and Art Of Fighting 2...

I play Guilty Gear and Melty Blood now.

I tried to teach ALL of those games to friends, but NEVER succeded.
I used to play with 2 other friends (regularly) and many other guys always wanted to join us as we seemed to have so much fun...

So we did try to teach them stuff... but they never listened to us, they just kept mashing the buttons while rocking 360s with the sticks (and sweating their asses off!) and off course they never won a single round against us...

so they got bored, gave up and returned to the world they belong to: FPS and RTS on their super-PCs!

...and they said: "I prefer Counter Strick and Warcraft as it is waaaAAAAaaay more technical than your crappy looking 2D shit!"

So I told them to fuck off, and we are not friends anymore... (that part is actually not true, but almost!)

[spoon]

...and they said: "I prefer Counter Strick and Warcraft as it is waaaAAAAaaay more technical than your crappy looking 2D shit!"

As a cs player since beta 6, I'll have to give that a huge WTFLOLLMAOTBHFYI. Not even quake3 is as technical as 2d fighters

[Khiempossible]

rule of thumb. don't play runaway or traps against new players in MVC2. some of my friends almost quit when I showed them that storm can super jump AD up ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha LS x3 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha all day.

[suleman]

Nah, I don't teach for shit.

N

More tutorials please :D

I taught my little brother when I was like 8 or something. Tried to teach my friends how to play but none of them have the dexterity for a qcf motion.

Usually end up playing dramatic battle...

[Daidoji Kage]

It's rare to find people who want to learn. It's not about finding people who can learn the shit.

[Kyokuji]

I find that you can learn a game together, but if you have to teach someone something then chances are they either don't really have the passion to get better on their own, or they're not smart enough to figure all that shit out by themselves.

I've never met a high level player who wasn't self taught for the most part.

[Dark Geese]

I find that you can learn a game together, but if you have to teach someone something then chances are they either don't really have the passion to get better on their own, or they're not smart enough to figure all that shit out by themselves.

I've never met a high level player who wasn't self taught for the most part.


Amen..you win...if you have to teach them then its one of those two things..because if they really wanted to learn it bad enough then they would..(but then again I think these Strategy Guides are "Street Fighter for Dummies" as a whole..I almost NEVER resort to strategy guides and never do for fighting games..

Close thread Kyokuji..YOU WIN.

[Mowbs]

I haven't even successfully taught myself.

[Ducky]

I taught my roommate Tekken after he moved in. He is a pretty average player but he plays it a lot. He wants to learn SF but has a hard time grasping the fundamentals. Working on that as well.

[spudlyff8fan]

My good pal, Kumiho, taught me Guilty Gear, more or less. Granted, he didn't teach me Street Fighter, but he did teach me how to play a deep fighting game.

[kin3tix]

I find that you can learn a game together, but if you have to teach someone something then chances are they either don't really have the passion to get better on their own, or they're not smart enough to figure all that shit out by themselves.

I've never met a high level player who wasn't self taught for the most part.

Completely concur, couldn't have said it better. QFT :rock:

[Infinitwar]

I have taught many people to play SF. I have 2 sons who are now 12 and 16 who are now getting into it heavy. They are on a mission to beat dad. They surprize me with the stuff they learn as they practice together. About 6 of us get together every thursday for fight night. My sons look forward to it every week

I did a custom stick for my oldest and my youngest will get one once he is ready, which is soon. He is already able to combo into raging demon in a fight I'm so proud of him. :sad: They will both soon beat me unmercifully. The student must always surpass the teacher. We love this game !!

[gouki10]

yeah

me and a friend of mine taught a friend how to play marvel.

he plays at the top player level now. he still needs to work on some stuff, but so does everyone when they play marvel. lol

[ParryPerson.]

top player level? Whats his name, I don't think I've seen him top 20 in any tournys.

[RagingStorm101]

nope they always give up.

[Sex)packets]

I have taught many people to play SF. I have 2 sons who are now 12 and 16 who are now getting into it heavy. They are on a mission to beat dad. They surprize me with the stuff they learn as they practice together. About 6 of us get together every thursday for fight night. My sons look forward to it every week

I did a custom stick for my oldest and my youngest will get one once he is ready, which is soon. He is already able to combo into raging demon in a fight I'm so proud of him. :sad: They will both soon beat me unmercifully. The student must always surpass the teacher. We love this game !!

You guys play 3s together? Man that must be the best thing in the world. I look forward to playing sf with my kids one day.

Back to the topic, I think it's really difficult to teach someone SF. Good SF players IMO have to teach themselves, search out the forums, vids, and competition to further their skill level.

I've tried to teach my roommates but they all get discouraged and quit when I beat them. If I hold back they get cocky and that annoys me so I dont hold back too often.

[Nick T.]

Yeah, i'm good teacher of stuff in general. I'm very good at explaining things.
But really, you can teach and teach, but the other person still has to listen.

[goodm0urning]

I have taught many people to play SF. I have 2 sons who are now 12 and 16 who are now getting into it heavy. They are on a mission to beat dad. They surprize me with the stuff they learn as they practice together. About 6 of us get together every thursday for fight night. My sons look forward to it every week

I did a custom stick for my oldest and my youngest will get one once he is ready, which is soon. He is already able to combo into raging demon in a fight I'm so proud of him. :sad: They will both soon beat me unmercifully. The student must always surpass the teacher. We love this game !!
It would be so awesome if you named your kids Akuma and Gouken. But then, you'd kind of be sealing your own fate... like when a kid is named Jeeves. Sooner or later, he's going to become a butler.

[abacabb]

I give my friends tips and shit. I did show my little cousin how to do a fireball and shoryuken. I nearly cried after that.

[CaliLifeStyle]

I taught my cousin the fundamentals of how to play Street Fighter 2 and Alpha 3. He sucked at first but now has become a worthy opponent. He learned quick too. I was like how did you learn all these combos and moves so quick. Some I didn't even know. He replied, "Google, bitch."

[RagingStorm101]

I remember when my friend introduced me to CVS2. I was like "man this shit sucks" because he beat me all the time. Then I went all SVC (when it came out) and played that non stop until I found out it was retarded. Then I borrowed CVS2 from my friend and kept practicing. I was still pretty shitty back then and used crappy characters like Terry haha. I remember those times when I was having so much trouble doing a fireball and a dragonpunch.
I was like "WTF IS Z??" you know how the pictures show a Z when they teach you how to do a dragonpunch.
I remember the first time I did the Sakura CC. Shit I was happy as fuck.

[Khiempossible]

I remember when I first started playing CVS2, I thought it was boring as fuck.


waiiit.

It still is boring as fuck. Crouching fierce all day long

[ShinNeosnake]

Totally teaching the game to someone is hard (matchups, frames, the game's system, etc). But teaching them the basics is easy. I have never taught a person how to fully play a game because I'm still learning it myself. But sharing strategies and tactics, I do that all the time.

I consider myself lucky, I had a World Warrior arcade cab set on free play at my afterschool program so I got some practice there.

Another thought, you can't fully teach a person the game because they have to learn some of the things themselves, otherwise, they'd just be a clone of you.

[Infinitwar]

My sons and I play 3rd Strike all the time. I am not even bottom tier level but we love the game. Life steals away practice time. Most times I just read Faq's on my PSP while working. This week was great New game & good fights.

Plus we just got alpha and reminising oh the good old days. Any SF'ers in Jersey wanna hook up PM me. we have 6 steady ppl Me my 2 sons and 3 buddies.

If you think about it... SF in general keeps strong when we teach those who know not the way of Shoryuken.

[dbycrash]

i look at some of the kids i taught marvel to like i gave them their first hits of rock for free and gave them the number of the best dealer in town

[prixx_Rok]

Iv taught several of my friends to play streetfighter but none of them ever reached my level but they were beating everyone else they played so i figure a few of them will catch me someday i already passed the guy who taught me now he just sits back and watchs me stomp his boys

[renvi]

my roomate, who never played fighting games before, I tought him CVS2, and he kicks ass at all street fighter games now.

[blankspaces]

It took me 5 hrs to teach this move to my friend " :dp: "