Is it me or is ST becoming bit more popular?

[Goldsplinter]

I've noticed on Kaillera that people are playing ST a bit more now. I'm one of them, ST Ryu, and on speed setting 3, it's fun.

Anyone else noticed this or can support my theory?

[r3ko]

Yeah, i've also noticed a rise in ST and sf2 on kaillera. I think its to do with the recent run of sf2 tournaments that have been going on. I know a large european ST tournament is nearing the end, there was also a CE tournament a month or 2 ago. I've been running CE tournaments. Jion Wansu is even running an ST tournament on kaillera.

But ST has also been on the rise elsewhere, in the UK next month will be a 32 man AE tournament. And in the near future, ST ranking battles will begin, which is really gonna be big i think.

I can't help but think the reason for the recent growth in ST is due somewhat to AE. AE helped bridge that gap between the cps1 and cps2 sf2 players. Many people would probably say ssf2 killed sf2 when it originally came out and as a result ST suffered has many had left the scene by then. But with the millions of people who own xboxs and ps2s, many people from way back who enjoyed ww,ce,hf probably picked this up, and in turn got to taste ST.

More importantly though ST is now on the 2 most popular consoles, albeit not in its purest form, it is still much more avaliable considering previously you would have to own a dreamcast, psone(yeh you can play it on ps2, but still hard to find the game and would undoubtfully have to be 2nd hand), saturn.

Further still, you can play it online on the xbox, so you'll never be starved of some comp and play from the comfort of your home. Also being packaged with 3s, probably helped to convert new school players over to the good side of SF

Evolution and other major tournaments around the world which run ST or AE, has helped tremedously, proving to players that this game is still be taken seriously, even after 12 years.

[Jorant]

My guess is that it's balanced, and we're dying for quality 2D fighters. What's new? Well.... GGX, which just doesn't cut it for some, such as myself. My love of ST is many: It's a great game, it's balanced, and nostalgia. Balance helps a ton. What game, beyond VF is more balanced than this? MAYBE Vampire Savior?

[Kyokuji]

ST's not really amazingly balanced or anything, but the damage setting is so high that it's easy to make a comeback no matter who you're using.
Besides, it's ST, it's always been popular. This is 'the' original fighting game.
The game can be extremely frustrating to play if both players' pings aren't below 60 though. In a game where one good combo can be enough to do you in, you can't afford to get crossed up or something because it lagged, and jump-ins/tick throws become retarded. Especially with people like Vega.

I play 'Sim as my main, and the second anyone sees me pick him, they run to Chun' or Vega, and then try to jump/throw me to death. They try the same thing with Blanka as well, but he's really not much of a threat to Dhalsim.
I've learned to deal with it, but it gets old real quick.

[Iapetus]

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You think ST coming in arcade-perfect form in the next Capcom Classics Collection has to do with it too? DO you think it will continue to rise because of it?

[A_Wolfe]

You think ST coming in arcade-perfect form in the next Capcom Classics Collection has to do with it too? DO you think it will continue to rise because of it?

I was lucky enough to play that version, it is very nice. David Sirlin has been busting his ass to make that game and from what I see its coming out real good. Lets hope its out soon, been waiting for ST Aracade Version for the longest. Just wanna say we finally got our own ST forum. Sweet!

- Alex

[Lil' Josh]

I personally think it's becoming more popular, i think it's cos of more people dicovering MAMe and the latest PS2 releases, and that download for XboX live is gonna bring a few players with it too..

[JubeiNinja69]

i love this game. can't wait for that ps2 arcade port sirlin is working on.

[Jorant]

Off topic: Alex, love the avatar. I know you asked to have one made just a bit ago... it's tops.

[polarity]

i've got a feeling a lotta people don't know about this forum yet....we need an announcement in fgd :confused:

[Vega]

A_Wolfe, I haven't had the pleasure of meeting or playing you yet but congrats on your big win and that avatar is just incredible. Who made that?

Kyokugi, I play on Mame sometimes. I go under the name unbeatlievable (used to be immortal). Just warning you in case we ever play, Vega & Chun-Li have always been my two favorites since WW & CE so if we play and I pick back & forth between them, so don't think it's because I'm trying to counter or anything. Some people just like them no matter who they match up against.

[~TeN~]

A_Wolfe, I haven't had the pleasure of meeting or playing you yet but congrats on your big win and that avatar is just incredible. Who made that?

Kyokugi, I play on Mame sometimes. I go under the name unbeatlievable (used to be immortal). Just warning you in case we ever play, Vega & Chun-Li have always been my two favorites since WW & CE so if we play and I pick back & forth between them, so don't think it's because I'm trying to counter or anything. Some people just like them no matter who they match up against.

lol same here.... Chun and Vega

[EmericaRR]

I've been playing Hyper Fighting on zbattle for awhile now. Can't get MAME roms to work right for some reason. Only a few of them. But yeah SF2 is crazy good and it's quickly replacing 3S as my favorite game. Can't wait for the arcade perfect PS2 port to come out.

[Goldsplinter]

I've been playing Hyper Fighting on zbattle for awhile now. Can't get MAME roms to work right for some reason. Only a few of them. But yeah SF2 is crazy good and it's quickly replacing 3S as my favorite game. Can't wait for the arcade perfect PS2 port to come out.

You gotta download all the roms for that certain game. For example, if you wanna play Super Turbo, you gotta download all the different versions of Super Turbo... Asia,World,US etc

Same with some other games probably.

[Silks]

I can't help but think the reason for the recent growth in ST is due somewhat to AE. AE helped bridge that gap between the cps1 and cps2 sf2 players. Many people would probably say ssf2 killed sf2 when it originally came out and as a result ST suffered has many had left the scene by then. But with the millions of people who own xboxs and ps2s, many people from way back who enjoyed ww,ce,hf probably picked this up, and in turn got to taste ST.



Amen to that. Also, another problem was that the nearest arcade to my hometown back when ssf2 was released didn't bother to get the fucking game, or ST. So after HF, I was sorta forced to move onto other fighters since, well, I was too young to drive to any out of town arcades. Sadness :(

[Kyokuji]

For example, if you wanna play Super Turbo, you gotta download all the different versions of Super Turbo... Asia,World,US etc

Not true at all.
All you need is the Super Street Fighter 2 ROM first since ST was just an upgrade of a pre-existing game.
The only version of ST that you need is (World).
Sort of like how you need the MK3 ROM before you can play UMK3.

[V4MPIRO]

I love ST

[Goldsplinter]

Not true at all.
All you need is the Super Street Fighter 2 ROM first since ST was just an upgrade of a pre-existing game.
The only version of ST that you need is (World).
Sort of like how you need the MK3 ROM before you can play UMK3.

Ohh, didn't know.

[Jorant]

I love ST

Amen to that! Maybe my favorite 2D fighter ever.

[Vega]

Hey, everyone sign this petition to get Super Turbo on Xbox 360 Live...
http://www.petitiononline.com/SSF2T/petition.html

[Khiempossible]

Hey, everyone sign this petition to get Super Turbo on Xbox 360 Live...
http://www.petitiononline.com/SSF2T/petition.html

HF > ST

[SNK Guitarist]

HF > ST

Nope

[7 5 0]

Can anyone confirm ST on CCC will be arcade perfect? I'm skeptical about this but hey I'll get it anyway for xbox.

[jaminbenjamin]

It's pretty hard to test if it's arcade perfect if we can't play it.

If you want to believe Sirlin, which is a pretty safe bet, then yes it will be arcade perfect. Otherwise, you can wait for everyone to buy it and then exclaim how nice it is to finally have an arcade perfect version for console.

[Graham]

Can anyone confirm ST on CCC will be arcade perfect? I'm skeptical about this but hey I'll get it anyway for xbox.

well iv tested it, it is arcade perfect. im looking forward to the final product coming out soon. if you got anymore questions aim me, i dont know how much i can disclose about an unreleased product.

[felineki]

It really is a testament to ST's quality that there's still so much interest in it more than a decade after it was released.

As for HF VS. ST... Personally, I prefer ST, but ST and HF are easily the best of the SF2s. HF is the original SF2:WW concept brought to perfection, while ST is a slight shift toward the newer generations of fighters, while still maintaining many of the classic SF2 elements. They're both great games.

[Graham]

if you like hf go post in the hf threads, this is the sf2 without training wheels thread

[Vintage]

sf2 without training wheels

Interesting theory. I believe you are implying that training wheels would be a "crutch" of sorts. With that being said, what would you call techs and supers that can take off 50% damage within the realm of SF2? In case you were wondering, I'm not hating, btw. I just found your analogy amusing.

[JonnyQuest]

well you've got a new breed of kids that started playing 3s and mvc2 (me being one)
i've just now really given ST a chance and i'm loving it
that's just my opinion, tho. i'm sure there are many factors why ST is blowing up right now

[Soundbwoy]

I got back via MAME. Fun stuff to this day

[Atmoz]

what would you call techs and supers that can take off 50% damage within the realm of SF2?

I would call that very cheap!!

[Cavern mantis]

Hope ST is gonna be more and more popular...
It really deserves it and owing to Sirlin's great job,conditions are here.
Furthermore when you see the degeneracy of fighting gems releases lately,it's good and refreshing to go back to classics

[Mavrick]

sreet fighter turbo is the best fighting game ever been plying i form 1992 and have never stop actually i have the arcade machine

[WickedElement]

Man, I am so glad this shit is making a comeback again. Not having enough competition was making me sad. Anyway, can't wait to see ST make a comeback at Evo. :smile:

[yoonster]

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