Favorite Star Wars Film

[cam347]

It seems alot of ppl hate the prequels mainly because Lucas over did it on the special effects. But that was the point, he knew with original series he couldn;t do such state of the art shit. And to be honest, I liek the prequels more than the original series. I found Luke to be quite dull, Harrison Ford? ...oh joy...It seemed to basic. While I felt -3 really set-up the the story to the original series as well. Though the acting mainly from Padme & Anakin were quite bad. I think he did better in 3. But I like the idea of hwo Darth Sidious had this whole thing planned out. I liek how they kept his on-screen time small in 1-2. He stayed under the shadows, kept a low profile. I like that. He's just pullin' the strings. Then he is revealed in 3. None the less I could discuss the cons of the prequels. Griveous who appears outta nowhere. Wasn't very cool. Just man turned robot who has bad lungs. Though they did him justice in Clone Wars. Anakin's constant whining. And the sheer stupidity of Jar-Jar. Or the "NoooOOoOoO" from Vader lol

Overall my favorite is Episode lll. The truth is revealed about the war, we finally meet Darth Sidious, the birth of Darth Vader. And Sidious is def. my fav. char. so it makes sense lol. And the kids gloves came off. Vader is killin kiddies. Clones are killin off the Jedi. It doesn't end on a happy note where everyone lives happily ever after and bullshit. For the first time, the villians will kinda won.

[abacabb]

The prequels were boring. My fav is Return Of the Jedi.

[fjf314]

Empire Strikes Back is win. The Battle of Hoth > *

[white shadow]

Star Wars: Clone Wars ep.12

I wonder which one that could be? <_<

[cam347]

Star Wars: Clone Wars ep.12

I wonder which one that could be? <_<

I was thinkin of including Clone Wars in the poll but wasn't sure.

The prequels were boring. My fav is Return Of the Jedi.
from the original series that would be my fav. My tier list for the original is quite simple
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It got better in each installment. Plus Jedi has Sidious lol

[Honest Monk]

Jedi, because it was so open and action packed. You got to know the entire family of Skywalkers all in the vicinity of about....12 mins.

[Vic Viper]

Yeah, strangely even though alot of people like Empire more, I like Jedi the most. Yeah, I guess its 30 minutes of the Battle of Endor. Also, it has Admiral "Fucking" Ackbar.

[cam347]

I find it suprising Empire did better than Jedi. I think Empire is a bit over-rated though I havent watched the originals in quite a while. I feel Jedi had more to offer and woulda sold more.

Not hatin'

[ViciousSLASH]

I like Jedi the best.

I like that lil guy who is Lando buddy. He fucking kills me.

Clone Wars > Star Wars for free though. Gennedy shit all over George Lucas.

[abacabb]

I like Jedi the best.

I like that lil guy who is Lando buddy. He fucking kills me.

Clone Wars > Star Wars for free though. Gennedy shit all over George Lucas.

Yea, thats true.

[cam347]

Clone Wars was great. I like Dooku but he was cooler in Clone Wars. Great voice actor, just wanted more on-screen time. General Grievous was awesome, but Windu easily takes the cake lol. C'mon that mutahfucka dont need no lightsaber lol. And the jedi robe over the clone armor is pretty niffty lookin.

[Vic Viper]

Also another thing:

Battle of Endor (VI) > Battle of Coruscant (III)

I guess I like exploding model ships better than exploding CG ships.

[white shadow]

Clone Wars > Star Wars for free though. Gennedy shit all over George Lucas.
Truer words have never been spoken. He made a Star Wars fanboy.... just for his miniseries.

[cam347]

Battle of Coruscant? I remeber one in Clone Wars.

[Biolink]

The one where Luke gets his hand chopped off by Vader

[umthrfkr]

The Wicker Man, the most randomest fucking movie ever.

[thraaaaa]

is it jus me or was yoda's duel with dooku WAYYYY better than his duel with palpatine

[P. Gorath]

being truthful, my favorite is Return of the Jedi

I had the most toys and accessories (play doh factory) from it as it waas the only one released while i was sentient

I was also a big fan of the rancor monster, slave outfit leia, sarlac pit, anything ewoks, and the forest speeder toys that had the self destruct button on the back.

The special edition ROTJ sucks as they changed the song at the end which was one of my favorite parts

[The Bucket Of Truth]

Also, it has Admiral "Fucking" Ackbar.:tup:

[snakedizzle209]

looks like return of the jedi and Empire strike back are neck and neck battling it out Clerks style.

[Jizzz_frame]

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[Shankar]

It's all about The Empire Strikes Back! ...Vader is the fucking man! ...choking people left and right...


my order would be: Empire, Jedi, Hope, Clones, Revenge, then ghey ass Menace...


PS- Fuck Darth Moll!!!:arazz: Vader wannabe

[goodm0urning]

Empire, easily. The most well-written, well-directed, well-acted, and most dramatically mature of the series. That said, I enjoy all of the films, although I think Attack Of The Clones and Return Of The Jedi are a little weaker than the rest.

[umthrfkr]

i would have to go with jedi. the only thing that i didnt like about revenge is that they killed off the badest jedi ever that was mace windu.

[Taito]

I used to hate Episode III but I guess it's grown on me. Anakin's transition in III doesn't seem completely stupid to me anymore, just really stupid. It also had the most Jedi/Sith swordplay of the series which should count for something.

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[Dasrik]

Empire Strikes Back for one big reason.

No Ewoks.

[ReKo]

...It doesn't end on a happy note where everyone lives happily ever after and bullshit. For the first time, the villians will kinda won.

Empire did that years ago and that's partly why all the critics still think it's the best one.

But for me it's gotta be ep3, after watching that it transformed the originals forever.

[NOBITA KUN]

I may catch flack for this but THE PHANTOM MENACE just becuase of the fight scene with DARTH MAUL.....there has never and will never be...a greater fight scene than this....

[Striderhyru05]

revenge of the sith was my favorite, it gives everyone a huge space battle intro instead of the millenium falcon going into hyperdrive, and the movie just feels darker than any of the other star wars movies. it also did a good job of connecting the dots, except for the random order 66

[Don Knotts]

Honestly, I like them all pretty much the same. They are all corny, some what ridiculous, but fun movies, deep with symbolism, shallow with acting skills and dialouge.

When people dis the prequels for having lame dialouge but don't have a thing to say about a dialouge of the OG trilogy, I cringe at the fanboy.

So I pick ep III just because it's the longest and has the most stuff in it.

[Drunkengameplayer]

Revenge of the Sith.

[P. Gorath]

oh come on people. Revenge of the Sith is fucking crap. Have you seen that movie? Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Do I need to link the maddox page?

Why people think it is the savior of the prequels is beyond me. name one good plot moment in the film or one instance that actually wowed you by showing something you had not seen before. Boring ass lightsaber battles, the same horrible acting and dialogue...this is some revisionist history if you rank it above jedi.

[Jizzz_frame]

oh come on people. Revenge of the Sith is fucking crap. Have you seen that movie? Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Do I need to link the maddox page?

Why people think it is the savior of the prequels is beyond me. name one good plot moment in the film or one instance that actually wowed you by showing something you had not seen before. Boring ass lightsaber battles, the same horrible acting and dialogue...this is some revisionist history if you rank it above jedi.

no offense, but they are all just opinions. and many of the criticisms you have towards ep 3 are found on a greater scale in 6.

i think everyone here needs to watch them again. imo of course

[jae hoon]

You shouldnt quote Maddox on much of anything, the guy is a fucking moron. It is like O'Reilly spawn, except dumber and even more hypocritical.

[CapMaster]

My favorite was a New Hope. I think it's because it was almost strictly in outer space and didn't get too complicated with Jedis, the Force, government conspiracies, and religous/coming of age symbolism.

[goodm0urning]

You shouldnt quote Maddox on much of anything, the guy is a fucking moron. It is like O'Reilly spawn, except dumber and even more hypocritical.Maddox is actually very intelligent. What people fail to understand about him is that nothing he says is meant to be taken seriously. The real guy behind the keyboard is absolutely nothing like the loudmouth asshole personal that he's cultivated online.

And as over-the-top and hyperbolic that his movie reviews invariably are, they do contain several kernels of truth. He simply, in true Maddox form, seizes upon a small handful of flaws and extrapolates the shit out of them.

[Taito]

oh come on people. Revenge of the Sith is fucking crap. Have you seen that movie? Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Do I need to link the maddox page?

Why people think it is the savior of the prequels is beyond me. name one good plot moment in the film or one instance that actually wowed you by showing something you had not seen before. Boring ass lightsaber battles, the same horrible acting and dialogue...this is some revisionist history if you rank it above jedi.
I don't hold Ep. VI in high regard since the Han/Leia romance (while okay in Ep. V) sucked as bad as the Anakin/Padme romance, and they just rehashed the Death Star battle from the first movie (Ep. IV of course). Oh and those goddamn merchandising whores dubbed 'Ewoks.'

Seriously, what was great about Ep. VI again that constitutes bitching about exact ranking? In my book it's V with a bullet, and you can just throw the other ones around in whatever order you want to.

[Jizzz_frame]

Maddox is actually very intelligent. What people fail to understand about him is that nothing he says is meant to be taken seriously. The real guy behind the keyboard is absolutely nothing like the loudmouth asshole personal that he's cultivated online.

And as over-the-top and hyperbolic that his movie reviews invariably are, they do contain several kernels of truth. He simply, in true Maddox form, seizes upon a small handful of flaws and extrapolates the shit out of them.

no, a bunch of what he says is meant to be taken seriously. you just have to figure it out. hes not serious when he says that he headbutt his girlfriends tits, but he is serious when he says he hates jenny jones.

do you know him personally?

[DJ SKILLZ]

I like Ep 3 the most. I've seen them all a couple of times. Even the remakes of the Original trilogy in the theaters, and I fell asleep during Empire. I expected Empire to runaway wit this poll, its just...... typical. Should've added Clone Wars to the poll.

[cam347]

revenge of the sith was my favorite, it gives everyone a huge space battle intro instead of the millenium falcon going into hyperdrive, and the movie just feels darker than any of the other star wars movies. it also did a good job of connecting the dots, except for the random order 66

agreed. Espcially with order 66. Never saw or read anything about how that was planned

Emperor: Execute Order 66!
General Cody: Ummm...Order 66...huh?
Emperor: Yes
General Cody: Uh what is that
Emperor: Shut up and kill the god damn jedi!!!
General Cody: But sir they are helping us defeat the seperatists.
Emperor: If u saw what happened to that nigga Windu then u know what will be good 4 u!
General Cody: Ok Ok Ok!!!

My favorite was a New Hope. I think it's because it was almost strictly in outer space and didn't get too complicated with Jedis, the Force, government conspiracies, and religous/coming of age symbolism.

very true. But I find New Hope to be quite dull. Beginning - save the damsel in distress Ending - beat the bad guys. Obi-Wan's & Vader's duel was just short and stupid and I dont understand why Obi got himself killed there. Can someone elaborate on that 4 me.

And as far as the bad guys winnin in V, Vader cut off Luke's hand and told him he's Padme's baby's daddy and they capture Han Solo. No big loss. Cant stand those kinda gun-slingin greedy out for themselves cowboy or whatever characters.

[cam347]

can someone possibly add Clone Wars to the poll lol. I had no clue it was so popular.

[OmNiExiZt]

Clone Wars > Star Wars for free though. Gennedy shit all over George Lucas.

Yeah, I can watch Clone Wars 100X over compared to the movies. It would be nice if they would let him use the plots from the starwars books while adding is own spin on things to keep the episodes going. But then again, he used elements from the movie to come up with completly new side stories.

*ONEZ*

[cam347]

Yeah, I can watch Clone Wars 100X over compared to the movies. It would be nice if they would let him use the plots from the starwars books while adding is own spin on things to keep the episodes going. But then again, he used elements from the movie to come up with completly new side stories.

*ONEZ*

agreed. We need some stars media. Supposebly George Lucas plans a live series for 2008.

But yeah one based off the comics would be nice. Though I never have read them. Maybe a series before ep. 1. They can present some new characters to ppl who dont read the comics or novels. I would love to see Dooku & Qui-Gon together. Maybe one that takes place between Ep. 3 & 4.

[white shadow]

agreed. We need some stars media. Supposebly George Lucas plans a live series for 2008.

But yeah one based off the comics would be nice. Though I never have read them. Maybe a series before ep. 1. They can present some new characters to ppl who dont read the comics or novels. I would love to see Dooku & Qui-Gon together. Maybe one that takes place between Ep. 3 & 4.

Yeah but I'd like it much better if Gennedy was allowed to continue the animated series rather than see some Lucas-directed live action garbage. Any man that can manage to make a 4 minute short feel like an entire episode is a godsend.:pray: I mean it had terrific pacing and action.

Man I need to get the Clone Wars DVD stat!:bgrin:

[cam347]

Yeah but I'd like it much better if Gennedy was allowed to continue the animated series rather than see some Lucas-directed live action garbage. Any man that can manage to make a 4 minute short feel like an entire episode is a godsend.:pray: I mean it had terrific pacing and action.

Man I need to get the Clone Wars DVD stat!:bgrin:

oh yeah more from Gennedy

[Vic Viper]

They still need to tie up some loose ends after Sith like:

-That blue dude that hangs out with Palpatine. What happened to him after Sith?
-Is Shaak Ti dead?
-What happened to all those Clone Commanders (Cody) that turned on the Jedi?

I guess all of these will get answered in that live action TV series I heard about.

[Infernoman]

Yeah but I'd like it much better if Gennedy was allowed to continue the animated series rather than see some Lucas-directed live action garbage. Any man that can manage to make a 4 minute short feel like an entire episode is a godsend.:pray: I mean it had terrific pacing and action.

Man I need to get the Clone Wars DVD stat!:bgrin:


Co-SIGN!!! what I wouldn't give to have more of what Gennedy did! I'd sure love to see more side stories like this. I own the Clone War DVDs and I just loved it! He put in just a small amount of time, what we loved about Star Wars, the action, epic battles and cool characters kicking ass! My mouth was wide open after they introduced Greivous and showed how badass he can be (but in epIII he...well he became a dissapointment...) actually both him and Windu...

[white shadow]

Co-SIGN!!! what I wouldn't give to have more of what Gennedy did! I'd sure love to see more side stories like this. I own the Clone War DVDs and I just loved it! He put in just a small amount of time, what we loved about Star Wars, the action, epic battles and cool characters kicking ass! My mouth was wide open after they introduced Greivous and showed how badass he can be (but in epIII he...well he became a dissapointment...) actually both him and Windu...

Yeah after the Mace Windu force chest crush things just started to go downhill from there. It was disappointing how different the transition was, but I guess it can't be helped since live action movies have their limitations.

Dang I want my Greivous holding 3 lightsabers stance AV back!:crybaby:

[DJ SKILLZ]

They still need to tie up some loose ends after Sith like:

-That blue dude that hangs out with Palpatine. What happened to him after Sith?
-Is Shaak Ti dead?
-What happened to all those Clone Commanders (Cody) that turned on the Jedi?

I guess all of these will get answered in that live action TV series I heard about.

I think I saw the blue dude in Return for like 10 sec., kinda just chillin wit the Emp.

As far as the Clones, well... if you played Battlefront 2, it kinda tells the story of the transition into the empire form the clones point of view.

[coffeerox]

Episode V by far. The classic Vader scene where he chokes the Admiral was priceless (and hillarious to me). One minute he's there, next he's getting choked the fuck out, struggling to breath and just keels over.

Also the scene where you meet Yoda for the 1st time, and show that he was very eccentric, starts digging thru luke's stuff and fights Artoo for a friggin flashlight and even hits him with his stick lol. I dunno, that scene just reminded me of the muppets and sesame street, even the dialogue and puppet movements were like it. I also found that scene hillarious, one of the most memorable scenes in Star Wars ever.

[goodm0urning]

no, a bunch of what he says is meant to be taken seriously. you just have to figure it out. hes not serious when he says that he headbutt his girlfriends tits, but he is serious when he says he hates jenny jones.He hates Jenny Jones? Don't you think this is one of those things that falls into the "kernels of truth, extrapolated to their most absurd ends" category that I mentioned earlier?

do you know him personally?No. But I've read enough interviews with the guy behind the Maddox persona, as well as online posts by people who actually are good friends with him in real life, to know that he is drastically different than he brings himself across online. He does notice and get annoyed by the personal quirks of various people in his life, but that's just about the beginning and end of the true elements of "Maddox."

[cam347]

Episode V by far. The classic Vader scene where he chokes the Admiral was priceless (and hillarious to me). One minute he's there, next he's getting choked the fuck out, struggling to breath and just keels over.

Also the scene where you meet Yoda for the 1st time, and show that he was very eccentric, starts digging thru luke's stuff and fights Artoo for a friggin flashlight and even hits him with his stick lol. I dunno, that scene just reminded me of the muppets and sesame street, even the dialogue and puppet movements were like it. I also found that scene hillarious, one of the most memorable scenes in Star Wars ever.

yeah Vader kills his whole crew
dead guy's body falls to the floor
Darth Vader: Aplogy accepted captain.

And Yoda was fuckin hilarious, though it kinda made me mad. Since he's the lile the wisest and most powerful jedi. Luckily, we got to see a seriosu side to him in the prequels.

Besides Gennedy we need a full Robot Chicken of Star Wars

Vader: And ewoks over-throw the empire!
Luke: THAT's....very unlikely....

[Vic Viper]

I think I saw the blue dude in Return for like 10 sec., kinda just chillin wit the Emp.

As far as the Clones, well... if you played Battlefront 2, it kinda tells the story of the transition into the empire form the clones point of view.

Yeah, I read the Wookiepedia somewhere that:

-Luke killed off 2/3 of the Jango Clones of the 501th on the Death Star 1.
-The rest of the Jango clones of that same division were either killed or captured by the Rebels and Ewoks in Endor. Maybe some escape the Death Star 2.

As for the blue dude, killed in the DS2? I take it he was added in the second Star Wars DVD revision, just like Naboo and the Jedi (now probably Dark Jedi Order) temple.

[shinrodimus]

empire strikes back is my all time fav theres so much drama,and the sfx are at its best for being back in the days.

[Jizzz_frame]

He hates Jenny Jones? Don't you think this is one of those things that falls into the "kernels of truth, extrapolated to their most absurd ends" category that I mentioned earlier?

No. But I've read enough interviews with the guy behind the Maddox persona, as well as online posts by people who actually are good friends with him in real life, to know that he is drastically different than he brings himself across online. He does notice and get annoyed by the personal quirks of various people in his life, but that's just about the beginning and end of the true elements of "Maddox."

im not talking about the person jenny jones. im talking about the show. he doesnt like the show. everybody should be able to reason that out. you cant read that and then think, maybe he likes the jenny jones show.

just the same as you shouldnt read his star wars review and assume he doesnt anything but dislike the movies. you can tell what writing style he uses. you know he doesnt think his nuts are as big as the sun, but you can assume he dislikes his job which he states multiple times. saying that he doesnt mean anything he says is a comment that not only doesnt make any sense, but doesnt have any proof to support it besides him being a "different guy".

im sorry but besides his grammar skills he is not as smart as everyone assumes. entertaining though.

[Don Knotts]

oh come on people. Revenge of the Sith is fucking crap. Have you seen that movie? Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Do I need to link the maddox page?

Why people think it is the savior of the prequels is beyond me. name one good plot moment in the film or one instance that actually wowed you by showing something you had not seen before. Boring ass lightsaber battles, the same horrible acting and dialogue...this is some revisionist history if you rank it above jedi.

Do you judge the quality of a star wars movie based only how much it "wows" you?

Granted, the movie is corny, but no more so than the others. Empire is corny as hell, just like the rest of them. These are kids movies, people. To be hard on the prequels is to just show your age, and your rose colored glasses for the OG trilogy.

Ask a the average teenager today who didn't grow up with the OG trilogy, and he'll tell you that watching the movies in order, the only difference is that eps 4-6 have worse effects and more gun fights. That's it. Other than that, they are all the same. You can have your least and most favoraite, but to claim that one film is better or worse on a technical level is to confuse your opinion with fact.

But while we are talking about or least favoriate, I have to say that Jedi confuses me more than the rest. The movie seems to try to build some sort of tension that Luke will maybe turn evil. But, there was nothing in any of the other films to lead us to believe this was even remotely possible. And, the way to evil is implied to be by killing Palpatine? If he had killed Palpatine, would that have some how made him more evil that, lets say, killing everyone on the Death Star in ep. 4?

And another thing, in Luke's final battle with Vader, Vader suddenly just sort of stops fighting. He grabs a railing and just sort of hangs out, holding his arm in one hand, his saber in the other. WTF? Was he throwing the fight? Or is he just chilling?

Couldn't he have just choked Luke out?

[chunkis]

I just looked at the poll and saw people voting for he new flims, i take it those people never seen the original star wars movies or don`t know about star wars period.


I don`t know whch one is my favorite, i like them all, i guess empire is probably my favorite, but i like them all, even the new ones LOL.

[coffeerox]

Do you judge the quality of a star wars movie based only how much it "wows" you?

Granted, the movie is corny, but no more so than the others. Empire is corny as hell, just like the rest of them. These are kids movies, people. To be hard on the prequels is to just show your age, and your rose colored glasses for the OG trilogy.

Ask a the average teenager today who didn't grow up with the OG trilogy, and he'll tell you that watching the movies in order, the only difference is that eps 4-6 have worse effects and more gun fights. That's it. Other than that, they are all the same. You can have your least and most favoraite, but to claim that one film is better or worse on a technical level is to confuse your opinion with fact.

But while we are talking about or least favoriate, I have to say that Jedi confuses me more than the rest. The movie seems to try to build some sort of tension that Luke will maybe turn evil. But, there was nothing in any of the other films to lead us to believe this was even remotely possible. And, the way to evil is implied to be by killing Palpatine? If he had killed Palpatine, would that have some how made him more evil that, lets say, killing everyone on the Death Star in ep. 4?

And another thing, in Luke's final battle with Vader, Vader suddenly just sort of stops fighting. He grabs a railing and just sort of hangs out, holding his arm in one hand, his saber in the other. WTF? Was he throwing the fight? Or is he just chilling?

Couldn't he have just choked Luke out?

yes he could have, but he was reminded of himself in the past. He once again had the chance to turn the tide of battle in favor of one of them (previously Mace Windu vs Palpatine), and in the past, he chose Palpatine, but this time he chose Luke.

[Foleyeffect]

I may catch flack for this but THE PHANTOM MENACE just becuase of the fight scene with DARTH MAUL.....there has never and will never be...a greater fight scene than this....

True dat Maul was a pimp. I love the lazer walls that seperated them. You see Obi-wan rushing to his master, Darth Maul pacing back and forth just waiting to kill some jedi, and what's Qui Gon doing? praying because he knows he's fucked. Too bad he got cocky and led to his missing of a lower half.

agreed. Espcially with order 66. Never saw or read anything about how that was planned

Emperor: Execute Order 66!
General Cody: Ummm...Order 66...huh?
Emperor: Yes
General Cody: Uh what is that
Emperor: Shut up and kill the god damn jedi!!!
General Cody: But sir they are helping us defeat the seperatists.
Emperor: If u saw what happened to that nigga Windu then u know what will be good 4 u!
General Cody: Ok Ok Ok!!!



very true. But I find New Hope to be quite dull. Beginning - save the damsel in distress Ending - beat the bad guys. Obi-Wan's & Vader's duel was just short and stupid and I dont understand why Obi got himself killed there. Can someone elaborate on that 4 me.

And as far as the bad guys winnin in V, Vader cut off Luke's hand and told him he's Padme's baby's daddy and they capture Han Solo. No big loss. Cant stand those kinda gun-slingin greedy out for themselves cowboy or whatever characters.

From what I got from the fight Obi-Wan was fighting a losing battle. He was really old he couldn't run away deflecting blaster fire like his old self. Basically he used that technique of the whole afterlife ability. when he says something around the lines "Strike me down but I will become more powerful than anything." basically he means i'm teach your son how to kick your ass. Qui-Gon apparantly mastered a way to become force or something to be able to exist in that "Realm" sort of speak and teach Obi-Want this technique. Remember how Obi-Wan was praying before he got slashed? This was the same with Qui-Gon behind the lazers. Mofo was praying for Mohammed. Another thing we're lucky that fight lasted for those old guys.

[Dr. Stormlocke]

Empire Strikes Back and Clone Wars.

While I generally find the prequels mediocre, they had some merits. The thing about the prequels is that it's very had to sit down and watch them from beginning to end, there are too many cringe inducing moments. However for just watching random scenes, the first two aren't bad:

Episode I had Darth Maul/Duel of the Fates music.

Episode II had Kamino/Jango/Asteroid Belt chase.

Episode III had jack, I'm sorry. If you can sit through the Anakin vs Obi-Wan duel that's cut and edited together like an MTV video for children with ADD, more power to you, but I thought most all of this movie was garbage. Pop in Clone Wars instead and watch some very well choreographed fight scenes, and a great character like General Grievous that is utilized to his full potential instead of being a walking, caughing joke.

[Vic Viper]

True dat Maul was a pimp. I love the lazer walls that seperated them. You see Obi-wan rushing to his master, Darth Maul pacing back and forth just waiting to kill some jedi, and what's Qui Gon doing? praying because he knows he's fucked. Too bad he got cocky and led to his missing of a lower half.

Same thing that happened in a Star Wars Tales comics. I mean, he went Kung Fu on Vader's ass and had him in his mercy, I think at the edge of the lava pit. Just kept talking how he's still just a "Jedi" instead of delivering the death blow, and Vader I think got his saber back and stab him.

Still Star Wars Tales comics aren't canon. But I also like the one where some former Stormtrooper had Vietnam like flashbacks of Endor, and said that he was glad the DS2 blew up cause it caused fallout on Endor, until someone said that the Rebels were able to shoot down the falling Death Star debree. A joke to those "Endor Holocast" speculations.

[cam347]

Do you judge the quality of a star wars movie based only how much it "wows" you?

Granted, the movie is corny, but no more so than the others. Empire is corny as hell, just like the rest of them. These are kids movies, people. To be hard on the prequels is to just show your age, and your rose colored glasses for the OG trilogy.

Ask a the average teenager today who didn't grow up with the OG trilogy, and he'll tell you that watching the movies in order, the only difference is that eps 4-6 have worse effects and more gun fights. That's it. Other than that, they are all the same. You can have your least and most favoraite, but to claim that one film is better or worse on a technical level is to confuse your opinion with fact.

But while we are talking about or least favoriate, I have to say that Jedi confuses me more than the rest. The movie seems to try to build some sort of tension that Luke will maybe turn evil. But, there was nothing in any of the other films to lead us to believe this was even remotely possible. And, the way to evil is implied to be by killing Palpatine? If he had killed Palpatine, would that have some how made him more evil that, lets say, killing everyone on the Death Star in ep. 4?

And another thing, in Luke's final battle with Vader, Vader suddenly just sort of stops fighting. He grabs a railing and just sort of hangs out, holding his arm in one hand, his saber in the other. WTF? Was he throwing the fight? Or is he just chilling?

Couldn't he have just choked Luke out?

exactly. Cause I too grew up on the prequels. First star wars I ever saw was Phantom Menace. I was born in 86 so that's after the original trilogy. As a kid I always wanted to rent the series or go the rerelease in theatres but my parents never would. Shit I never saw the original series till I think like High School. I also had friends with VHS lol and I wanted to watched them but "No I dont feel like watchin Star Wars now" b/s.

[Taito]

And another thing, in Luke's final battle with Vader, Vader suddenly just sort of stops fighting. He grabs a railing and just sort of hangs out, holding his arm in one hand, his saber in the other. WTF? Was he throwing the fight? Or is he just chilling?

Couldn't he have just choked Luke out?
I think the big revelation is any expert Jedi from the prequels would've whupped old Vader's ass. He just got overpowered by Luke's rushdown. Which isn't that big of a deal because Sith apprentices got their asses kicked in the prequels.. there just wasn't a Jedi around in the OT that wasn't old and dying. Luke was young with all his legs, Vader was old with bumbling robot limbs.

Now I hope that doesn't mean young Vader was't a powerful apprentice, because why didn't Obi and Yoda-- in their prime and not too long after the events of Ep.III-- plan an offensive and 'decapitate' the Empire prematurely?? Whatever, anyone that thinks the prequels mesh with the originals at all is on that crack.

About Luke killing everyone on the Death Star.. well he technically wasn't a Jedi yet, and maybe that flagged the emperor that maybe he could give into the Dark Side? But don't ask me why Obi Wan encouraged Luke to "use the Force" and kill thousands of people, lol.

[YellowS4]

in their prime and not too long after the events of Ep.III-- plan an offensive and 'decapitate' the Empire prematurely?? Whatever, anyone that thinks the prequels mesh with the originals at all is on that crack.

afaik, the Jedi had to go into seclusion considering their lack of #s and having the whole Republic back the Senator and ignore any idea that he was the Emp.

Anyways, I grew up on the OT and never really enjoyed the Prequels, save for a few moments in each one. The Qui Gonn / Maul fight is still too beast.

I'd have to say V > VI in terms of pace, writing and overall better movie.

[Hunter D]

The last three star wars movies blew, especially episode 2.

[Tantin]

because why didn't Obi and Yoda-- in their prime and not too long after the events of Ep.III-- plan an offensive and 'decapitate' the Empire prematurely??

...They did. That's the second half of the third movie. Anakin got owned, but so did Yoda. So they basically said 'fuck it, let's wait until Anakin's kids are older, and Sideous/Vader are old, and people realize how shitty the Empire is, so they have some back up.'

[angryliberal]

empire ftw

[Return of Shiki]

I've never been what one would call a Star Wars fan or fanboy...although I've seen all of the movies and have enjoyed them to varying degrees from a cinematic standpoint (except Episode I...what a boring piece of tripe).

As such I don't really have a favorite Star Wars movie...but I do have a question on why a New Hope is slept on nowadays and that Attack of the Clones is panned by fans?

AotC does have the same hokey dialogue and acting (though a case could be made for any movie of the series) but I felt out of all the prequels it had the best action (in the second half of the movie). Actually I would say it may have had some of the best action sequences in the series.

[Taito]

...They did. That's the second half of the third movie. Anakin got owned, but so did Yoda. So they basically said 'fuck it, let's wait until Anakin's kids are older, and Sideous/Vader are old, and people realize how shitty the Empire is, so they have some back up.'
I guess the backup part makes sense, but I wonder when the Rebel Alliance was formed and why Obi never got in on the action, at least before the unstoppable Death Star was created.

[YellowS4]

Obi was still in hiding and at the same time, keeping an eye out for Luke who never really knew who he was.

The Alliance is pretty much those in the Senate that opposed Palpatine (Mothma, Bail Organa, etc)

[Taito]

I've never been what one would call a Star Wars fan or fanboy...although I've seen all of the movies and have enjoyed them to varying degrees from a cinematic standpoint (except Episode I...what a boring piece of tripe).

As such I don't really have a favorite Star Wars movie...but I do have a question on why a New Hope is slept on nowadays and that Attack of the Clones is panned by fans?

AotC does have the same hokey dialogue and acting (though a case could be made for any movie of the series) but I felt out of all the prequels it had the best action (in the second half of the movie). Actually I would say it may have had some of the best action sequences in the series.
What I hated about Ep.II:

-Anything Anakin
-The 'romance'
-That scene where they're stuck on the droid factory line
-The Gladiator-like arena scene with the stupid animals
-That part where all the Jedis attack with their different color lightsabers.. just because Samuel Jackson has a purple saber doesn't mean everyone else has to have it, because it looks fucking retarded. It should have always been red green and blue.
-Yoda jumping and flipping around like a cat on MDMA

The battle with the clones was pretty cool.


EDIT: Anyone who thinks the Darth Maul fight in Ep.I was good needs to watch that again.. the saber fights in Ep.III are superior (not saying they're the greatest in movie history but they're the best of the prequels)

[cam347]

the romance or lack of did suck

She's sitting by the fire in the dark in that outfit lol. And u wonder why Anankin felt like a lil' boy seeing his first pair of breasts.

and as far as the rebels go. They started to rally up in the events of Ep. 3. They feared Palpatine's power and feared he became somehwta of a dictator with his power. And the rise of the galatic empire made the rebels official.

and I guess I could understand why Ep. 1 was kinda boring. Mainly Tatooine was too long, while the race was originally a extra 10 minutes long thank god they cut that. And the abnoxious Jar Jar

While I can't stand Naboo they're a buncha pussies
"let's keep negotating and let the senate handle it yay!"
"My majesty they want war and want to kill u"
"Can't we solve this peacefully?"
"Not if they wanna kill us"

yet the fans blame Jar Jar for the war ok sure fair enough but with Padme's weak ass aroudn they woulda been killed before they went to war. So power to Jar Jar.....for that moment.

[goodm0urning]

AotC does have the same hokey dialogue and acting (though a case could be made for any movie of the series) but I felt out of all the prequels it had the best action (in the second half of the movie).Hush, you. It's a fanboy discussion; this is no time for logic.

[Dr. Stormlocke]

I suppose a debate on the merits of both trilogies is inevitable in this thread. I thought this quote was interesting though:

Granted, the movie is corny, but no more so than the others. Empire is corny as hell, just like the rest of them. These are kids movies, people. To be hard on the prequels is to just show your age, and your rose colored glasses for the OG trilogy.

I didn't know one could silence the voice of dissent on the prequels by simply saying, "They are all corny." "They are kids movies" is also my favorite Lucasfilm PR quote, along with "The original movies didn't get very good reviews either!"

The fact is, it's not nostalgia for the OT that makes me roll my eyes when Jar-Jar gets farted on by aliens and responds, "Pee-U-Sa". It's not nostalgia for OT when I let out a sad sigh as Anakin compares Padme to sand. There are cheesy moments in the OT, let's be perfectly clear. Chewy doing a tarzan yell in ROTJ as he swings on a tree vine? Pass. However, one of the trilogies worked very well on many levels, the other trilogy didn't. People are entitled to their opinions, they can like what they like for whatever reasons. If none of these moments bothered you and you can still enjoy the movies, props. But to lump all the movies together in a one-size fits all package and say, "Take it or leave it", is a pretty big travesty.

[cam347]

what if Gennedy was allowed to make a animated series based off the original trilogy? Would u approve? Hmm this could call for a new poll lol

[Don Knotts]

On some of the new OT Star Wars toys, the weird minature ones I would never buy, it looks like art work done by Gennedy's team.

Luke fighting storm troopers, I think. Looked good.

EDIT: Here we go. Click on the pic towards the middle for a close up.

http://www.hasbro.com/attacktix/default.cfm?page=news&newsID=3FE921F1-D56F-E112-43EDF1486236DA5E

I think a Gennedy helmed series based on the OT would probably bring in the biggest audience. They could even get Mark Hamil to do Luke's voice.

Come to think of it, why not do post OT stories in animation? You know, with Leia and Han's kids and all that crap?

I feel like between the 3 movies and Shadows of the Empire, the OT era stories are all sort of burnt.

But, I could be wrong.

Anyway, the Clone Wars cartoon got much weaker once the episodes got longer and more dialouge driven, IMHO. I would want them to stick to the action based, minimal dialouge format. Just show us the world, don't try to tell too much of a story. We have the movies for that.

[cam347]

so a live series for 07/08. Taking place between Episdoe lll & lV....nice
and 3-D animation series following Clone Wars for 07 also nice

[Striderhyru05]

Who Shot First?!

[cam347]

Who Shot First?!

heh?

[Dr. Stormlocke]

Who Shot First?!

Han.

And on that note, someone lock the thread. :wink:

[YellowS4]

They should do something w/the Thrawn trilogy or a series on the New Jedi Order.

Nothing is better than seeing a certain someone get crushed by a moon

[cam347]

Han.

And on that note, someone lock the thread. :wink:

no. There's no reason to.

[Zor]

It's hard for me to decide between III & V really, but I think I'd have to go with ROTS.

[cam347]

So the original ones drop tuesday. And they are in craptacular condition lol. So bad reviews yes! Just an item to have to add to the collection ya know. Not that I ever had any intention of buying them. Since a guy at work told me about them a few months ago. While I have never seen the original versions except for the 1st half-hour of Empire Strikes Back......on VHS! OMG it looked like a home movie made on Clark Griswald's cam-corder. And when I saw this on wikipedia I almost died

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:The_Emperor.JPG

[Dr. Stormlocke]

While I have never seen the original versions except for the 1st half-hour of Empire Strikes Back......on VHS!

You're 25 and you've never seen the originals?

So all this time have you thought Greedo missed the easiest shot in all of movie history?

Pity about the DVDs. I laugh that Lucas and his lot made sure to say that the Original Trilogy was meant as "Bonus Material Only", in an effort to lighten the blow to DVD aficionados that it would be a crappy transfer. Yet all the advertisements for the DVDS use this 'bonus material' as their main selling point, sporting "UNCUT AND UNALTERED" for the whole world to see.

Hopefully in like a year, when they release the 'super-ultimate all6movies-give-me-more-of-your-money edition', we'll have a good copy of it. (And they are releasing it.)

[cam347]

You're 25 and you've never seen the originals?


actually 19 years old. I have been banned twice in the past. Check Vampire Savior and G-Product lol. So I took my brother's account since he wasn't using it.

[Striderhyru05]

ive never seen the originals, im excited to watch them, even though by empire strikes back ill want to take the dvd out because of the hrorible quality i hear about

does anyone know if they will ever release a triology pack of the prequels? i wasted my money in 04 buying the original trilogy and now they are putting the remastered and unaltered in one pack. gayness

[cam347]

yeah I wouldnt doubt if they will do that then they will make the 6 pack which they coulda done in place of this OT b/s.

[Dr. Stormlocke]

What I was alluding to in my last post:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/rumormill.html#082406

Second paragraph.

[goodm0urning]

So the original ones drop tuesday. And they are in craptacular condition lol.You're looking at a moderate transfer without anamorphic enhancement... which is going to still be pristine quality in comparison to the previous VHS release. Count your blessings.

[TheWholeFnShow]

So, am I the only fan of the Ewoks? They are like cuddly teddy bears.

... ... ...

Uh....yea, I liked V and VI a lot. I really enjoyed III, but I can't say I like it more than V and VI.

[cam347]

I am no Ewok hater, but I prefer the jawa

"Oootinnie!!!"

[KungfuJoe]

I will have to say Empire Strike Back the bad guys kick ass ,and you had one of the most memorable line's "I'm your father"(Ok so that not exactly what he said but you get it)

KFJ

[ReggieHadoken]

I bought the Family Value Pack of the OG Star Wars Trilogy earlier in the year for $34.99 at Meijer. Just now opened it up. Imagine my irritation when I heard later that Lucas was releasing the unaltered versions of the OG Trilogy. I see this as two things. 1.) In the words of David Spade "nerd bait." And I'll probably bite... eventually. 2.) Lucas is saying "Ha ha!! I got you!! You thought I'd never release the unaltered versions, but I did!! Suckers!! I dropped the sop and you picked it up!! Now bend over and take it in the butt while I take all of your money!!"

And this "Limited Time" crap. I don't buy it. I can walk into a store that sells DVDs and spot the SW Trilogy all the time. Doubt this unaltere Trilogy will be limited. And later on they'll release spiffier versions of the SW Trilogy, further wallet raping super hardcore SW fanboys. Screw you, Lucas.

But back on topic. I voted for Empire Stikes Back. Loved the Hoth Battle scene and Luke metting Yoda was cool. Also, the whole "Luke. I am your father. It's true," is classic.

I know the prequels get a lot of hate but I actually enjoyed them. Darth Mual was one bad mofo IMO. Mace Windu was pimp, though I hated how we went out in Ep. III. Man, that just sucked. Especially after he dished out mad ownage in Clone Wars. And the fight Betwen Obi-Wan and Anakin in Ep. III was freaking top tier in my book. I don't care what the OG Trilogy nut riders say. And this is from a guy who grew up on the OG Trilogy.

[cam347]

damn right Mace Windu was a pimp! He's an ever bigger pimp in Clone Wars. He's such a pimp that he don't need no freakin frakin light saber.

[stealthcat]

I know the 6 disc set is confirmed. Do you think the current release of the 2 disc sets will be the only DVD release of the UNtouched original trilogy? I'm guessing the 6 disc set will have the 2004 special editions of the original trilogy along with the prequels.

I will not buy the prequels on DVD and don't own the original 3 on DVD. Is this new set worth it with its 2.0 stereo sound and non anamorphic quality?

[Vic Viper]

Does the unaltered trilogy also contain the deleted scenes from the original trilogy?

[J-ride]

I am pretty happy for the OG versions on DVD. The re-releases fucking sucked.

So I'd say that that I like Empire the most. Empire showed us what a bad mother fucker Vader was. Also Luke training with Yoda was pretty sweet. But really, Yoda could have given him a heads up. Like given him a little bit of a hint about force lightning and all that. I also was terribly dissappointed with the Emperor and Yoda fight. It was 99.9999% hype.

[cam347]

regardless why do u want shit quality. It's like playin Final Fight on SNES....why fuckin bother?!

And yes the battle between the emperor and yoda wasn't that great. Yoda didn't fail he just gave up. To me they seemed to be on equal level but what do I know