The Protector. [Archive]

maxx

09-03-2006, 12:05 PM

lol, welcome my fellow brother into the tony jaa srk fan club. we bow to tony jaa and his amazing abiliy to rehash the same plot twice in a row and still make it awesome.

icebreak:check youtube, the official site has alot of clips of it.

dano13

09-03-2006, 12:09 PM

jaa is ocv

IceBeast

09-03-2006, 12:14 PM

Bruce Lee > Jaa Fool!

Hunter D

09-03-2006, 12:20 PM

Thread derailed.

Alax.cool.

09-03-2006, 12:28 PM

erm, doesn't tony jaa have a new movie coming out, called "Swords" or something? blah, gotta look for the trailer...

Gumbercules

09-03-2006, 12:35 PM

he can keep making ongbak all he wants as long as the fight scenes keep on being epic. bone breaking scene was amazing

crimzonflame

09-03-2006, 12:58 PM

Found it: http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3332533&postcount=2029

thurst

09-03-2006, 04:09 PM

yeah that shit was pretty crazy, altho the scene with the capoeira guy was clearly the sickest shit in the movie

maxx

09-03-2006, 04:22 PM

yeah that shit was pretty crazy, altho the scene with the capoeira guy was clearly the sickest shit in the movie

capoeira guy:

name: lateef crowder

site: zgstunts.com

style: olympic level gymnastics,capoeira,stunts and various martial arts trickz.

Sheng-Long

09-03-2006, 04:58 PM

Yeah I love the "video game" theme the director put in this movie.
The "final fight" type scene with the street thugs in motorcycles, the fighting game type scene with the capoeira guy and the Kung-fu Master/Spartan X type scene when he was going up level by level through the stairs decimating random thugs along the way.

Also LOL at the scene where he passes a Jackie Chan look-alike at the airport, as a symbollic passing of the torch scene as the Jackie Chan look-alike is heading to the departure area as Jaa just arrived Australia.

And nice touch with the use of elephant bones to kill the big guys, because him taking out those HUGE guys hand-to-hand would be definitely bullshit (especially after the knife wound). Definitely adds credibility points to the martial arts aspect of the creative team involved.

The Thai cop is annoying as hell though. I'd rather see Jar Jar Binks than that guy. I wanna watch this new American release, maybe they dubbed that guy's voice now and that would make it so much better.

platinum_pinoy

09-03-2006, 05:24 PM

Action scenes: fantasgreat.

Movie plot: sucked elephant balls.

"Karn! Where are you! Karn!"

Alex

09-03-2006, 05:29 PM

maxx

09-03-2006, 05:35 PM

If you saw it last night im guessing it wasnt the ofical american release version. Im just saying cause you say it was dubbed when i heard the american one was going to be subbed....i hope its not true though :(

its the official american release. both ong bak and tom yum goong got released subtitled cuz weinstein has stopped suckin cock long enough to listen to the martial arts fan.

Sheng-Long

09-03-2006, 05:39 PM

What's so bad with dubbed?

According to you guys the plot sucked anyway. What are you gonna miss in the script if its dubbed? If anything, it would be better because there'd be more room for the action on the screen.

Or is it more of just a preference thing and that when the mouths don't align with the language it irks you?

King9999

09-03-2006, 05:43 PM

I've already seen (and own) this movie on DVD, and the bone-breaking scene is definitely top tier.

The fight up the stairs is great, too...that scene is covered in one of the DVD extras. Tony was pretty much out of breath after that scene.

NinjaPirate

09-03-2006, 05:48 PM

It less authentic when it's dubbed. Also it kind of ruins what the directors/casters image was when you totally change their voices.

L1qu1d

09-03-2006, 05:53 PM

cant't wait to see it, ong bak was real good. and why would you try to compare tony jaa to bruce lee thats just silly. tony jaa isince in his own way though hes got talent. i prefer him over jet li

Wolfkiller

09-03-2006, 07:01 PM

We re-enacted the flying knee into a crowd of people scene at my buddy's wedding. It was the bomb.

Hokuto no Jeffro

09-03-2006, 07:18 PM

Nathan Jones is the next Bolo Yeung.

Alex

09-03-2006, 07:19 PM

It less authentic when it's dubbed. Also it kind of ruins what the directors/casters image was when you totally change their voices.

exactly, some people might like it dubbed, but those same pepople probly also like translated Opera. Luckily it is an action movie so it wont be TOO bad if it is.

Shifty Nevers

09-03-2006, 07:32 PM

this movie is double dragon 1 with elephants. Think about it, and you'll see.

Sears

09-03-2006, 10:12 PM

The English in this movie is so broken haha, but very awesome action.

3b1r4h

09-03-2006, 10:49 PM

seriously this movie is kinda old if your girlfriend visits thailand and brings you back the movie + translates it for you....

i know i rule.

ckrazy

09-04-2006, 12:37 AM

yea saw it along time ago it was pretty kool didn't know they had another name for it in english till today lol

DoublexxCyclone

09-04-2006, 04:00 AM

funniest scene in movie. Jaa taking out 6 guys with one tiger crush.

Kyokuji

09-04-2006, 04:27 PM

Being a stuntman for that movie must've sucked.

voodazz

09-04-2006, 04:57 PM

LOL! Oh man, classic multiple opponent fight scene! I love how they show dozens of dudes pour out of the corridors, but only one or two of them fight him at a time. :rofl:

Rhio2k

09-04-2006, 05:21 PM

We re-enacted the flying knee into a crowd of people scene at my buddy's wedding. It was the bomb.

What, the one where he literally flies down from the upper left side of the screen into some hapless bad guys drinking wine?

SaBrE

09-04-2006, 06:35 PM

versus addict

09-18-2006, 05:03 PM

I know I'm late but....

....last night we decided to watch "The Protector" (which we saw on premier in the theatre) and Tom Yum Goong (uncut Thai version we've had since Thai release) back to back at home. Why must they edit the original film and dum it down for US audiences? The english overdubs are trash also...WHY?!? I mean, they cut out a lot of footage, most of which isn't action but beautiful shots of Thailand and other background stuff. They also cut some action and comedy. Do they think that we wouldn't appreciate it? They cut out a lot of "Dirty Ball's" scenes too. Hell, Tony Ja's Dad is assumed dead in the US release but the Thai version, they show him recovering? WTF? Its not like its going to stop any hardcore Ja fans from going to the theatre if they leave it in. If anything its more authentic which is why we like this kid in the first place. The edits on the US release are choppy and awkward anyways....production wise.....I just don't get it.

Are the edits because of Quentin Tarantino's involvement?

Finished rant. Tom Yum Goong FTW.

ViciousSLASH

09-18-2006, 05:06 PM

http://carinfrog.com/protectorreview.htm

Draeger

09-18-2006, 05:37 PM

no one has really mentioned one really significant scene in this movie. the scene where he goes up all the flights of stairs beating fools up. it was mentioned but no one mentioned what made it special. if you notice, that whole 3-5 minute fight was totally unedited, done in one take. the camera never stopped, stayed on track with him the whole time, no camera angle changing, it just follows him til he gets to the restaurant. no one ever seems to notice this about the scene. you can tell he was hella tired at the end. and you can tell some of the ways he beat people werent perfect, he, or the stunt men would not do it perfect, which lent to a lot more authenticity to me. ive never scene anyone do one continuous take like that, exerting that much energy and wild stunts. amazing

Jackie Chan did something as crazy as this in one of his old movies, but I forgot which one.

The whole fight scene was between him and another guy for five minutes straight with no camera angle changes or any of that shit. Jackie Chan did that scene because he had a lot of detractors and haters back then and wanted to prove them wrong.

I believe it took him four months just for that scene alone.

Wolfkiller

09-18-2006, 06:39 PM

What, the one where he literally flies down from the upper left side of the screen into some hapless bad guys drinking wine?

Heh...yeeeeeah. It didn't look as good, but we all were wearing kung fu suits so it was worth it. Yes, my buddy did infact pick out kung fu suits for his wedding theme, no joke.

Boo to the Protecter edits. I wanted to see the Segway chase scene. And they hella fucked up the scene with the mud-bath killer by editing out his previous parts in the movie.

white shadow

09-18-2006, 06:51 PM

That 5 minute scene fight was one of the illest things I've ever seen!!!! The dedication, so many things to remember, so many things that had to go right, and it STILL managed to look convincing!!!:wow:

And the Lateef scene made the movie, the other elephant tendon-destoryer and million man bone-slaughter was owneriffic!!!:bgrin:

Tony Jaa is the man!!! I wish I could see a real fight between him and Lateef!!!:cool::rock::nunchuck:

De4dEyE

09-18-2006, 07:30 PM

My friend let me watch the original Tom Yung Goong [IIRC, the title is simply the name of the restuarant] a long while back, and yeah it was pretty good. It's basically the same story as Ong Bak, but the fight scenes kept it fresh [or at least made you forget about the plot entirely]. Nathan Jones is badass, the tackle he hits Jaa with at the temple was sick. Oh, and in the subbed one I watched, the Elephants that get kidnapped were called like Bo [Bobo or something rofl] and Khan. Yeah. Good movie to watch.

Johnny

09-19-2006, 04:03 AM

I saw this movie last year. Great movie Tony Jaa is amazing. I even met him in person. Very kool guy. When I met him I got to see the US version of it before it hit the theaters. Yes there was a lot of parts that were cut off. If I were you guys see Tom Yum Goong and you'll know. I love that part where he was fighting that Capoeria guy and the guy with the sword. Plus where he was fighting those guys in the building breaking their bones. Next movies Tony Jaa is working on is Ong Bak 2, Sword, and Hanuman. Be on the look out for those.

Johnny

09-19-2006, 04:10 AM

no one has really mentioned one really significant scene in this movie. the scene where he goes up all the flights of stairs beating fools up. it was mentioned but no one mentioned what made it special. if you notice, that whole 3-5 minute fight was totally unedited, done in one take. the camera never stopped, stayed on track with him the whole time, no camera angle changing, it just follows him til he gets to the restaurant. no one ever seems to notice this about the scene. you can tell he was hella tired at the end. and you can tell some of the ways he beat people werent perfect, he, or the stunt men would not do it perfect, which lent to a lot more authenticity to me. ive never scene anyone do one continuous take like that, exerting that much energy and wild stunts. amazing

LOL I ask Tony how long it took them to do that scene. He said it took them 6 trys to get it right. He had to get rid of one cameraman because he was not catching up to him. On the 5th try right where they almost got to the end the camera ran out of film. That was a good scene though.

sait0u

09-19-2006, 04:11 AM

this movie is cool. i kind of wish they didn't bring it out to american theaters though.

Wil

09-19-2006, 05:02 AM

this movie is cool. i kind of wish they didn't bring it out to american theaters though.

Why do you say that? Bringing this movie to our shores opens up the eyes of more people to Jaa's ability and can only increasd the popularity of this film.

EndLeSS8

09-19-2006, 07:53 AM

Ong Bak was MUCH better.

"WHERE IS KARN!!!??!"

He has like... 3 lines that he keeps repeating over and over in the movie

EvilKing

09-19-2006, 07:57 AM

who gives a dead pigeon's dried up shit if this movie is dubbed or subbed if it has a shitty plot?

I'm probably going to see it this weekend after i see Jackass#2. but my question is this: is it better than the new Jet-Li movie?

nameingway

09-19-2006, 08:01 AM

yeah, tom yung goong was a good movie.

versus addict

09-19-2006, 03:59 PM

.....my question is this: is it better than the new Jet-Li movie?

If you're referring to Fearless? They are 2 totally different movies. Fearless seems a lot more serious and the action was more technique/precision martial arts showcase. The movie is also set in a traditional Chinese past history. Jet Li's opponents as a whole are more skilled than pure evil. Tom Yum Goong was more comic book style violence and extreme martial arts. Bad guys are bad guys, there is no question as to who is what when he's facing his oponents. Its also set in modern timeline. Its flashy too. Aside from a few skilled opponents its more of a kicking ass type of movie I guess. Both are awesome movies in their own right.

....Fearless is better if I had to choose, but its an unfair choice/comparison.

fishjie

09-19-2006, 04:13 PM

SPOILERS

you know what the best scene in the movie is? when everyones chillin at the party when out of NOWHERE:

RANDOM TIGER KNEE!!!!!!!!!!!

BudaFuka

09-19-2006, 04:20 PM

Just saw it... OngBak was better...

Rodimus

09-19-2006, 04:23 PM

Movie was great, that part when he was running up the stairs reminded me of a video game trying to get to the next level. Some final fight ish.

Tony Jaa is just crazy, these guys need to get together and give us some hotness, c'mon tony, jet, jackie, donnie yen--get together and give us something special.

My fav, part was his fight with johnny nguyen, he flash kicked through the glass door...lol

WasFemto

09-19-2006, 04:35 PM

The part in the previews where he knees that dude of the chopper made go "SWWWEEEETTT!!!" In slo-mo tho'.

as far as badassness goes how does this compare with somehing more recent like Crank. That movie was pretty crazy.

white shadow

09-19-2006, 04:47 PM

The part in the previews where he knees that dude of the chopper made go "SWWWEEEETTT!!!" In slo-mo tho'.

Funny you called that shemale a "dude.":rofl:

WasFemto

09-19-2006, 04:51 PM

There's shemales in the movie...or is this a thai joke?

LimeGreenPatato

09-19-2006, 05:21 PM

Was it just me or was the theater version cut up to hell. They were just cutting shit out of it.

sait0u

09-19-2006, 05:34 PM

Why do you say that? Bringing this movie to our shores opens up the eyes of more people to Jaa's ability and can only increasd the popularity of this film.

ehh...just the thought about it. they already released it on dvd before theaters. i guess its no problem and you do have a point

Reckless Fire

09-19-2006, 05:40 PM

Being a stuntman for that movie must've sucked.

Not if you were one of the stuntmen who got to get Tony Jaa (when he was sad about his elephant's death) You could say "Yeah! I kicked Tony Jaa in the face!"

I saw this as Tom Yum Goong (from my friend) but it didn't have the ending on it. It cut off just as the 4 big dudes were pushing the baby elephant out of the way! Then when it finally came to theaters, my local theater wasn't showing it! But today I was at the Barber shop waiting for my friend, and BAM they had the whole movie going! Lucky me.

Nando

09-19-2006, 05:49 PM

Not if you were one of the stuntmen who got to get Tony Jaa (when he was sad about his elephant's death) You could say "Yeah! I kicked Tony Jaa in the face!"

I .

best part of the movie, had me r:lol:

Johnny

09-20-2006, 04:15 AM

Was it just me or was the theater version cut up to hell. They were just cutting shit out of it.

Yes the us version cut a few parts out.

Kira Yamato

09-20-2006, 04:30 AM

I watched the original so I personally didnt like this movie. Couldnt stand the thai voices and the gay scarf he was wearing around his neck even though the action was great, couldnt take it seriously with him wearing it. the movie is about saving his damn elephant afterall...

glass

09-20-2006, 06:49 AM

i think it's pretty cool like that. it's like a Disney movie plot.

Satomiblood

09-20-2006, 07:29 AM

I think my friends and I were the only ones laughing throughout the whole movie. How can you not lose it when Tony Jaa does a flying knee press that goes full-screen?

FreddyL0c0

09-20-2006, 08:49 AM

so its true? that evil mafia looking asian chick whom i thought was pretty hot is a very famous transexual chinese actor? ah merde...truly bizarro times

those computer animated scenes looked like they came from a PS1 video game. Age of Empire or something

white shadow

09-20-2006, 09:09 AM

so its true? that evil mafia looking asian chick whom i thought was pretty hot is a very famous transexual chinese actor? ah merde...truly bizarro times

LMAO! So it's true?!:clap:

Johnny

09-20-2006, 09:24 AM

so its true? that evil mafia looking asian chick whom i thought was pretty hot is a very famous transexual chinese actor? ah merde...truly bizarro times

Oh shit you mean to tell me Xing Jing who played Madame Rose is a guy? Damn.

DK-RoE

09-20-2006, 12:05 PM

extreme limb-breakingly awesome movie
only seen original thai version though
hoping to see the US theater release soon, probably same night as Fearless (this friday) too bad i now know some of the edits they've done

namely the one i don't like the most is the fact that they don't show his dad recovering later, they just kill him off... too sad

that staircase scene was a good highlight of the film in terms of film making (one-long-shot)

MY favorite scene of the film has to be the burning temple scene as a whole, awesome fights between specilized warriors and the cops win in the end :rofl:

Fearless>Protector>>>Crank

and as far as SUB vs DUB goes
people need to release that DUB does NOT automatically mean that it's a bad dub, technically every movie should be 99% as enjoyable when it's dubbed into another language, voices are NOT supposed to be changed completely and no changes in the director's image of the movie should be compromised
If a crappy dub comes out, that's just what it is, a crappy dub, but that doesn't mean the movie couldn't have been dubbed better if done by someone else

so by nature, SUBs are better than DUBs because original voices are always credible when they're original actors that original casters chose to fit the character[/rant]

Satomiblood

09-20-2006, 12:16 PM

MY favorite scene of the film has to be the burning temple scene as a whole, awesome fights between specilized warriors and the cops win in the end :rofl:

He fought Eddy Gordo and Marduck... back-to-back

Episode_667

09-20-2006, 05:03 PM

Here's hoping an unedited DVD version is released in North America eventually.

On a similar note, what is the North American DVD of Ong Bak like? Is there an unedited cut of the film on the DVD, or is it only the NA release?

blue_J

09-20-2006, 05:30 PM

This movie was a piece of shit, The directing and camerawork is HORRIBLE.

Ducky

09-20-2006, 05:30 PM

Sheng-Long

09-20-2006, 06:35 PM

This movie was a piece of shit, The directing and camerawork is HORRIBLE.

LOL
WTF movie were you watching?

The camera work is not Raimi style innovative, but its pretty awesome. Watch the scene with Jaa fighting those street punks and sliding in the slight opening of the barbed wire and the camera zooms out, goes underneath and turns 45° to follow the focus on Jaa... and it wasn't a camera programmed on a track!

The action wouldn't be this good without the director's eye for shooting a good fight scene. Just watch this other movie he produced but didn't direct: Born to Fight aka Kerd Ma Liu (I dunno if that's the accurate Thai title), and see the huge difference.

glass

09-21-2006, 06:50 AM

that's like saying The Godfather sucked because the jokes and love scenes were horrible.

Honest Monk

09-21-2006, 06:59 AM

So they cut out all the stuff with Sgt Mark? I think his horrible English was one of the best parts of the movie, especially when he is grabbing all those mangoes and talking on the phone with his imaginary girlfriend in the barber shop... :rofl: The horrible English in the movie is one of the funniest parts of the movie... I didn't bother to go watch it in theaters though.

a.k.a. George? LOL. Better or worst than his Ong Bak?

Ducky, you just sold me to actually get the VCD of this flick through an old chinese man and his scary wife in support of asian comedic action movies everywhere.

EvilKing

09-21-2006, 07:40 AM

Yah, i downloaded the movie.
I haven't gotten through all of it, but i'm going ot see it in threaters since the shitty vid quality and shitty subs are taking away a lot from it.

jaa's the man.

Aching Cummers

09-24-2006, 10:12 PM

I rented a dvd of the protector (under original title) from a legitimate dvd rental place who is in the habit of renting out legitimate retail dvd movies, before the movie was released in U.S. theatres. The film quality was ok, but not great.

I was wondering if it's possible that the rental dvd I watched was an inferior bootleg. For the people who saw it in the theatre, was it great quality or ok quality film?

Troyboy's Back!

09-24-2006, 10:24 PM

The Protector SUCKED!!!!

Now Ong Bak was another Story....GREAT Movie!

Slªde

09-25-2006, 01:04 AM

I saw the original awhile back. Ong Bak was definitely better. The Protector is very average and pretty corny throughout. 3/5 - mediocre.

Rhio2k

09-25-2006, 05:08 PM

He fought Eddy Gordo and Marduck... back-to-back

Correction, he fought Hwang between those 2.

DK-RoE

09-27-2006, 01:14 AM

He fought Eddy Gordo and Marduck... back-to-backCorrection, he fought Hwang between those 2.
why Tony Jaa isn't in a fighting game yet is beyond me
Tekken 5, believe it

anyone know what movie was made first? Ong Bak or Tom Yung Goong? the US theater version looked HQ from the trailers at least way better than the Chinese DVD i bought

so i'll most likely buy the US version... if it's uncut