Rate the Band: Nirvana

[Cisco]

Yes, i love the band. My favorite Nirvana song is lithium.

[Gumbercules]

horrible horrible horrible

[goodm0urning]

I used to think some of their songs were pretty good. But then I read a biography on Cobain, and I wish I hadn't. My entire viewpoint towards Nirvana has been permanently soured after finding out what a douchebag that guy was.

[tsumi]

i used to listen to alot if nirvana when i was like 15 there not the greatest band but they have some good stuff, and they led me onto other bands like mudhoney dino. jr sonic youth etc,.

[Dasrik]

Eh.
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[Jaldaboath]

Loved them when I was young, love them now.

[Athanasy]

Shitty ass shit.


I actually went to school in Minnesota with some kid related to Cobain. He mostly got his ass kicked all the time.

[Cisco]

Lets put Cobains personal life out. It's obvious that guy was a psychopath, i heard he had a double personaility or something. In the end, Nirvana is a legendary band because their music is all that matters. I could read how much of a wakko that guy was but it still wouldn't make a difference because i judge on his musical talent.

[blood_sin]

He wasn't a psychopath. Psychotic maybe, but definitely not psychopathic. Most likely, he was a manic-depressive schizophrenic. I give his repertoire of music a B+.

[orochizoolander]

OK so he was fucked up in the head and suicidal....who gives a fuck cuz his music was perfect nirvana is 1 of the greatest bands of all time cuz of the music not the ppl.

Micheal has a little kid fetish so does that make thriller any less of a legendary album? FUCK NO the guy may be messed up the music however is a seprate almost godlike entity.

[Athanasy]

Yeah.

All angst aside, Nirvana still blows.

EDIT - "Musically."

[coco_j]

I just don't see whats so great about them.... they have some good songs and some absolute shit ones. In a word : overrated

[PrAiSeThEwHoRe]

my favorites are downer, school, and milk it

[majeh]

sucks because all he says is blarghl larble arahgllee hate hate drugs kill myself g'day

[Don Knotts]

He wasn't a psychopath. Psychotic maybe, but definitely not psychopathic. Most likely, he was a manic-depressive schizophrenic. I give his repertoire of music a B+.

Not to be a douchebag myself, but I work in psychiatry, and I'm going to have to correct you on this one. There is no such thing as a manic-depressive schizophrenic. That would be like being a Walrus Moose.

Schizophrenic = Thought disorder. You hear things that aren't there, see things, have paranoid delusions like the FBI is out to get you, you have worms that live in your stomach, etc.

Manic-depressive = Mood disorder. Not in the happy/sad sense, that's a common misconception. It's really more about your emotional energy level having extreme shifts. Manic means so much energy you don't know what to do with it. That can be for better or worse. You can be manic and in a good mood, a euphoric mania, and jog for a day straight, think that you are everybodies best friend, spend all your money on candy, etc. Dysphoric mania is the same level of energy but pissed off, starting fights, crying for days, thinking the world is a shit place, wanting to die, that stuff. Depression is usually dysphoric too, but with no energy. Can't get out of bed, don't shower, can't make phone calls, no life and no desire for one.

Manic-depression, more commonly known as Bi-polar disorder, is the flipping between the two energy levels and/or mood states, sometime over the course of a year, a week, a day, or an hour.

I had one patient who would seriously flip between joker style non stop laughing to sobbing his eyes out crying in just a few seconds. I never saw him depressed though. The crying was just his mania switching from euphoric to dysphoric.

There is an illness that is sort of a combination of Schizophrenia and Manic-Depression called Schizo-Affective Disorder, but that's a a different thing really.

And that was Psych 101 with Prof. Knotts.

As for Cobain, he was a heroin addict. They are almost always dicks. You live a lie. You value one thing above everything else. You slowly kill yourself and you know it. That will turn any one into a dick.

As for the band, when they were good, they were very, very good. When they were bad, they were awful. Listening to a whole album is going to have it's share of problems. Best to go with the greatest hits.

[E_VAYD]

Like the band.

Hate every so-called modern "band" today that counts them as a major influence.

[L1qu1d]

most over-rated band of all time, but they proove your music doesn't have to be complex....they did their own thing and people connected, so i have a lot of respect for them. all apologizes is a good track though..can't really think of any other nirvana songs i like.

[maxx]

i dont like his music. i can respect his music since he helped spearhead a whole generation. But i dont like his music anymore..i did as a kid, i even cried i think when he died. but now he has no effect on me.

[Sheng-Long]

Cobain, although not the most prolific lyricist nor technically gifted as a guitar player, was able to establish the mood and channel the angst and the frustration of his life through music and people connected to it and in the end that's all that matters.

It is really unfair to connect Kurt Cobain the person to Kurt Cobain the musician though. Are Roman Polanski's movie garbage just because he's a child molesting rapist?

This inablity to see the artist and the person as two separate entities is the shit that allows pretention and insincerity to go on in the art world. For example Van Gogh's failure to create any meaningful art throughout his lifetime that didn't fail technically, stylistically and even simply the ability to get his point across frustrated him and drove him mad and onto his death yet now he is revered as an artist and his paintings sell for millions mostly because of his tragic story not because of his artistic legacy. Don't you find that the least bit disturbing?

[thurst]

nirvana is the only early 90's rock that i like actuallly, nu-metal ftw!

[maxx]

nirvana is the only early 90's rock that i like actuallly, nu-metal ftw!

how the hell is nirvana nu-metal?

[Shankar]

Nirvana is the greatest band of all time!

mtv unplugged FTW!!!

[AHVB]

Teh Suck.

[bekkoyochi]

Not to be a douchebag myself, but I work in psychiatry, and I'm going to have to correct you on this one. There is no such thing as a manic-depressive schizophrenic. That would be like being a Walrus Moose.

Schizophrenic = Thought disorder. You hear things that aren't there, see things, have paranoid delusions like the FBI is out to get you, you have worms that live in your stomach, etc.

Manic-depressive = Mood disorder. Not in the happy/sad sense, that's a common misconception. It's really more about your emotional energy level having extreme shifts. Manic means so much energy you don't know what to do with it. That can be for better or worse. You can be manic and in a good mood, a euphoric mania, and jog for a day straight, think that you are everybodies best friend, spend all your money on candy, etc. Dysphoric mania is the same level of energy but pissed off, starting fights, crying for days, thinking the world is a shit place, wanting to die, that stuff. Depression is usually dysphoric too, but with no energy. Can't get out of bed, don't shower, can't make phone calls, no life and no desire for one.

Manic-depression, more commonly known as Bi-polar disorder, is the flipping between the two energy levels and/or mood states, sometime over the course of a year, a week, a day, or an hour.

I had one patient who would seriously flip between joker style non stop laughing to sobbing his eyes out crying in just a few seconds. I never saw him depressed though. The crying was just his mania switching from euphoric to dysphoric.

There is an illness that is sort of a combination of Schizophrenia and Manic-Depression called Schizo-Affective Disorder, but that's a a different thing really.

And that was Psych 101 with Prof. Knotts.

As for Cobain, he was a heroin addict. They are almost always dicks. You live a lie. You value one thing above everything else. You slowly kill yourself and you know it. That will turn any one into a dick.

As for the band, when they were good, they were very, very good. When they were bad, they were awful. Listening to a whole album is going to have it's share of problems. Best to go with the greatest hits.

Thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!!
Finally, someone who knows what the hell they are talking about. I get tired of people lumping all mental illness together. It isn't their fault, most don't understand the difference.

[Yasashiyama]

I probably would have liked Nirvana a bit more if it wasn't for the fact that one of their songs wasn't always being played each hour on some rock stations. I respect the band ( or what most believe to be just Kurt ) has done though.

I've always enjoyed The Foo Fighters above Nirvana. Even today.

[DS]

Lets put Cobains personal life out. It's obvious that guy was a psychopath, i heard he had a double personaility or something. In the end, Nirvana is a legendary band because their music is all that matters. I could read how much of a wakko that guy was but it still wouldn't make a difference because i judge on his musical talent.



They were meh. There was better and there always will be. A greatest hits album is the way to go to cut down on the crap. In Utero is their best. And the only reason they are "legendary" is because of Curt's suicide. Other than that they were nothing else. Why? Because the band was gonna end after just four albums. Curt even attested to that.

They were fun to watch on stage though.

[Hokuto no Jeffro]

Not. That. Good. Morphine yo.

[jae hoon]

They're Grrrrrrrreat

[locoghoul]

good but overrated

[Venom Scrub]

Only thing good about them is that the Foo Fighters were born from them.

[goodm0urning]

Lets put Cobains personal life out. It's obvious that guy was a psychopath, i heard he had a double personaility or something. In the end, Nirvana is a legendary band because their music is all that matters. I could read how much of a wakko that guy was but it still wouldn't make a difference because i judge on his musical talent.He wasn't a psychopath and he didn't have a "double personality." He was a whiny little attention whore, period. And that is the attitude that permeates every shred of every song he ever wrote, which is why Nirvana isn't even a tenth of the band that most people make them out to be. They have a few catchy tunes, and that's really about it.

[Fadedsun303]

The Unplugged album is my favorite of theirs.

[Ne0phyte]

He was a whiny little attention whore, period. And that is the attitude that permeates every shred of every song he ever wrote
Man what the fuck are you talking about? He wrote hundreds upon hundreds of songs; have you heard any of them?

Nirvana was great. I can't think of any other artist than Cobain who exudes such raw emotion and feeling through his lyrics and voice and takes you right to that level with him.

All the members had talent. Just because Kurt Cobain didn't break out in epic guitar solos doesn't mean he wasn't skilled. Dave Grohl was obviously a good drummer and Novoselic was a good bassist... and together with great lyrics and depth it came together well. Period. People who talk about how overrated they are are jumping on the same bandwagon as the people who overrate them. It's both cool to hate and love Nirvana.

[Duck Strong]

Yeah I dunno about all the members being great. Krist Novoselic (or however the fuck you spell his name) was a god-awful bassist and his other band, Sweet 75 iirc, was utter shite. Seriously, if you know anything about music, that should be plain as day. You couldn't play simpler more uninspired bass lines and yet, he still managed to fuck them up most of the time. That, and he looks alot like a stupid fucker I knew in university.

Despite some of their more lackluster material, I still like Nirvana after all these years.

[goodm0urning]

Man what the fuck are you talking about? He wrote hundreds upon hundreds of songs; have you heard any of them?

Nirvana was great. I can't think of any other artist than Cobain who exudes such raw emotion and feeling through his lyrics and voice and takes you right to that level with him.

All the members had talent. Just because Kurt Cobain didn't break out in epic guitar solos doesn't mean he wasn't skilled. Dave Grohl was obviously a good drummer and Novoselic was a good bassist... and together with great lyrics and depth it came together well. Period. People who talk about how overrated they are are jumping on the same bandwagon as the people who overrate them. It's both cool to hate and love Nirvana.Find me a Nirvana song where he comes across as humble, stoic, and selfless.

And start listening to some other artists. You can't think of any others who put a high level of emotion into your music? That's because of you, not because of Nirvana.

Speaking of which, Grohl has more talent in one finger than Cobain had in his entirety.

[MAGUS1234]

IMHO they were the greatest band ever.....and obviouslt my fav.

[Cisco]

Nirvana is my 3rd favorite band of all time. I seriously can't understand the hate, All apologies, utero, Teen Spirit, Not the man i used to be, Lithium... how can you say they weren't good/great when those songs were damn hot.

He wasn't a psychopath and he didn't have a "double personality." He was a whiny little attention whore, period. And that is the attitude that permeates every shred of every song he ever wrote, which is why Nirvana isn't even a tenth of the band that most people make them out to be. They have a few catchy tunes, and that's really about it

Actually i read that he did have a double personality or something like that.

[scum gale 88]

I remember in 9th or 10th grade this group of bitches loved nirvana. one girl wrote a huge essay about kurt kobain and they forced the class to listen to them during study hall. I didnt have the heart to tell them how much they suck.

thats about it.

[DS]

Speaking of which, Grohl has more talent in one finger than Cobain had in his entirety.


Dave Grohl WAS the band. Thats putting it a lot more bluntly.

[Super Bardock]

they were and still are a favorite of mine. i loved and still love all of those seattle bands. in fact, i would probably rank as my third fav. music artist/band only behind Johnny Cash and Jimi Hendrix.

[Ne0phyte]

Find me a Nirvana song where he comes across as humble, stoic, and selfless.

And start listening to some other artists. You can't think of any others who put a high level of emotion into your music? That's because of you, not because of Nirvana.

Speaking of which, Grohl has more talent in one finger than Cobain had in his entirety.
I meant to say as much emotion and feeling as he did. Of course I listen to tons of different artists; he just epitomizes those feelings to me.

Dave Grohl was hardly the band. Kurt was undeniably the band. His lyrics, his guitar and his voice were the band. You don't listen to Nirvana to hear Dave drum; you listen to hear Kurt sing his heart out.

Where's Mycah?? I know he's a big Nirvana fan.

[3b1r4h]

I love Nirvana. And to those of you who disagree, you probably have no scope in the top 40 you listen to.

[ViciousSLASH]

SELF HIGH FIVE !

BRRN BRRN digga digga BRRN BRRN !

they get a thumbs up just for that song.

Kurt Cobain was a huge pussy though. Fuck him. Grunge killed Hair Metal and birthed Emo.

Thanks a lot grunge. We won't forget you warrent

[DS]

SELF HIGH FIVE !

BRRN BRRN digga digga BRRN BRRN !

they get a thumbs up just for that song.

Kurt Cobain was a huge pussy though. Fuck him. Grunge killed Hair Metal and birthed Emo.

Thanks a lot grunge. We won't forget you warrent



Quoted for extreme emphasis.

And Dave was the band. He was the only real talent there. The drumming kept them alive.

[RoninChaos]

Man, Kurt couldn't sing for shit.

[tondashocka]

I was perhaps a tad bit young for Nirvana; I mean I'm only 22 now, in a month I'll be 23. But really, I guess I know for sure that I'm not emo because his music was always like being at the dentist when I knew I had a tooth to be pulled. I accepted the current situation (or tune), but that surely didn't mean I liked it. As someone said earlier, Nirvana was the old school 50 Cent whereas the radio played him 24 hours a day and yet their music for the most part sucked. If you want to thank anyone, thank the media and slew of depressed white kids who do nothing but get high all day.

[goodm0urning]

I love Nirvana. And to those of you who disagree, you probably have no scope in the top 40 you listen to.If cars ran on irony, the oil problem would be long over after this statement.

[{PFH}-Lake]

So you guys judge people in the bands so you dont like there music?

I just listen to music cause i like wat i hear, i dont do backround checks on every singer i listen to.

and emo came from punk and goth.

[Cisco]

If cars ran on irony, the oil problem would be long over after this statement.


can you list down some good rock bands of that time that you consider good just so we can see why you are spitting on Nirvana? If your main genre of music is Rock then it's quite impossible not to list down nirvana as one of the greats because their rock songs are very legendary.

Kurt's voice wasn't something for a real singing contest but in terms of Rock music it was damn good. It suited well for most of those songs. His lyric content was deep, the majority of them contained real shit and not some no-brainer teen bob - bling bling with rims shit. Shit was real.

[Irennicus]

I hope the people that just hate the genre of music in general aren't voting on this. I know we have a lot of elitist people here when it comes to anything. (I'm not just talking about you rap-heads, everyone here, including myself, does it.)

I love Nirvana. I seriously can listen to 98% of their songs all day and not get tired of them. There are so many songs I love: Polly, In Bloom, Utero, Smells Like Teen Spirit, Lithium, Heart Shaped Box, etc. etc. etc. and that's just off the top of my head right now. There are few bands that I like more songs by. Pink Floyd and Pearl Jam are the only two that come to mind right now.

Nirvana for the motherfucking win.

[Dasrik]

His lyric content was deep, the majority of them contained real shit and not some no-brainer teen bob - bling bling with rims shit. Shit was real.
Yeah, I deal with meat-eating pisces and being in laundry rooms every day.

[tondashocka]

Yeah, I deal with meat-eating pisces and being in laundry rooms every day.

lolz

[EvilKing]

safe to say that this is the most overrated band ever.

they were decent at best.

edit: you are talking about genres too? alice in chains blows anything and everything considered 'grunge' out of the water and back in for seconds. Fuck, even some pearljam tracks back then totally outshine anything nirvana ever did.

They are decent, and feel free to idolize them, but they never will be the best at anything they did.

Foo>nirvana.

[Roxie]

Awesome. love them, voted "okay" by mistake.

[Mycah Leonhart]

Find me a Nirvana song where he comes across as humble, stoic, and selfless.

Off the top of my head - Mr. Moustach off of the Bleach album.

As for the rest of you fucking haters - STFU, kthnx.

Nirvana fucking SAVED rock music - before them it was Hair Metal and fuckin' Guns n' Roses. (they weren't bad but come the fuck on)

And news flash, Cobain was just a normal whiney white kid with a Guitar in the right place at the right time - I don't deny that one bit but for you fucks to sit on here and down the fucking people that shaped music in the 90's - get the fuck off the bandwagon.

We need another "Nirvana" to save us from this bullshit we're going through right now with all this emo crap.

[Fadedsun303]

Off the top of my head - Mr. Moustach off of the Bleach album.

As for the rest of you fucking haters - STFU, kthnx.

Nirvana fucking SAVED rock music - before them it was Hair Metal and fuckin' Guns n' Roses. (they weren't bad but come the fuck on)

And news flash, Cobain was just a normal whiney white kid with a Guitar in the right place at the right time - I don't deny that one bit but for you fucks to sit on here and down the fucking people that shaped music in the 90's - get the fuck off the bandwagon.

We need another "Nirvana" to save us from this bullshit we're going through right now with all this emo crap.

There's plenty of bands saving us from this emo crap, they're just not in the mainstream, and probably never will be.

[ViciousSLASH]

Nirvana fucking SAVED rock music - before them it was Hair Metal and fuckin' Guns n' Roses. (they weren't bad but come the fuck on)



Oh suck a dick. Guns N Roses was the biggest band in the world before Axl Rose decided to go crazy.

Appetite for Destruction > everything Nirvana has ever done.

[Roxie]

There's plenty of bands saving us from this emo crap, they're just not in the mainstream, and probably never will be.

London will save us all.

[L1qu1d]

^^haha someone living in the past? rock music is dead face it. red hot chili peppers is really the only big thing thats left...all these new rock sub genras are garbage.

[Dasrik]

Nirvana fucking SAVED rock music - before them it was Hair Metal and fuckin' Guns n' Roses. (they weren't bad but come the fuck on)
GnR shits on Nirvana any day of the week.

And you just need to take one look at Nickelback to know that Nirvana did the opposite of save rock music.

[Super Bardock]

We need another "Nirvana" to save us from this bullshit we're going through right now with all this emo crap.

yeah we do. and it's not just the mainstream rock (emo, nickelback, etc.) that's awful, it's all this indie dream-pop hipster garbage that's helping ruin rock. the arcade fire and all of these other "indie" bands of today are ass, i'm sorry if you don't agree but i like my rock and roll with a little bit of attitude. at least pearl jam and the chili peppers can still put good records.

[Cisco]

^^haha someone living in the past? rock music is dead face it. red hot chili peppers is really the only big thing thats left...all these new rock sub genras are garbage.


I would rather listen to the new garbage bands such as nickle back then most of the garbage hip hop and pop artists.

I agree, we need another Nirvana-like band.

[DS]

I agree, we need another Nirvana-like band.



We really don't. Go listen to the stuff that comes out in the U.K. There's a lot more talent there than in America. Face it folks, the mainstream music scene in America is too closeminded and will never accept different. Bands like The Walkmen(a NYC band) will never be mainstream because no one out there with the right ears will ever give them a chance. The top 40 dominate America and always will.

Another band like Nirvana will only move music backwards and not forward. They were alright for their time. What we need is a punk revival more than anything else. A genre that has been long dead.

[Dasrik]

I would rather listen to the new garbage bands such as nickle back then most of the garbage hip hop and pop artists.

I agree, we need another Nirvana-like band.
I'm not buying this "Crap Plus One" argument. Crap is crap regardless of how you feel about what inspired it.

[Cisco]

^ Some crap is actually tolerable, i've only listen to 4 Nickleback songs my entire life and i seriously would change music from ashley/jessica simpson, [rapper], jLO, POD, sum41, and other crap you see on trl for nickleback.

[EvilKing]

heh. some more thoughts.
-sum41 are a better metal band than any (and i mean ANY) of the new metal-core/metal-emo bands that have come out in recent years. Forget about fat lip, they were like 17, listen to their newer albums

-Nirvana was fucking huge, and yes, the did change music, we can't possibly forget how popular they were while he was still alive. But like i mentioned earlier, GnR and Alice in Chains were THE bands of that era. If grunge had never happened, hair metal would have still died because of GnR. They fucking transcended that shit.

-grunge was a fad. just like emo and pop-punk

-we dont need another nirvana. we just need to get rid of the record industry as it is now. Until then, they will try to make Nirvanas out of the Simple Plans and Linkin Parks over and over again.

-listen to wolfmother.

[KrassHole]

Nirvana owned

Anyone who says diff is a fucking hater

[3b1r4h]

I can NOT BELIEVE the amount of Nirvana hate here.


Fuck what you heard, Nirvana is the truth.

[L1qu1d]

^^modern rock bands l1qu1d feels

glassJAw
red hot chili peppers
incubus
the 1st coheed and cambria album, i got their second 1 and it was trash...
thursday has some really good song
radiohead

[Shag]

They're my favorite band. :lovin:

Dave Grohl WAS the band. Thats putting it a lot more bluntly.

Total BS. Listen to "Bleach", their first album. Dave wasn't a member then.

It's also my fav album from them. Very raw.

[EvilKing]

^^modern rock bands l1qu1d feels

glassJAw
the 1st coheed and cambria album, i got their second 1 and it was trash...

Glassjaw was the truth, but they're not modern cause they no longer exist.

Coheed and Cambria's 3rd album had a lot of metal influences....

And to whoever negged me about sum41...get some fucking balls.

[DS]

They're my favorite band. :lovin:



Total BS. Listen to "Bleach", their first album. Dave wasn't a member then.

It's also my fav album from them. Very raw.



I did listen to Bleach. One of the many albums I actually enjoyed, but Dave injected life into the drumming. Bleach is definitely one of their better albums but I always felt that the drumming always needed to be kicked up a notch. Love Buzz is my favorite track off that album.

[Gumbercules]

if you think nirvana saved rock music you don't know shit about music outside of mtv/radio

[Jaldaboath]

Dave was fundamental for Nirvana's growth, but Nirvana made Ghrol into the awesomwness he is today.

[L1qu1d]

Glassjaw was the truth, but they're not modern cause they no longer exist.

Coheed and Cambria's 3rd album had a lot of metal influences....

And to whoever negged me about sum41...get some fucking balls.

yea i'll never forgive them for breaking up....head automatica is such trash, they had maybe 3 good tracks...they turned gay and went out to cali or someshit

[ADarkSilhouette]

Man the foofighters suck balls, nirvana owns them! Sure dave has loads of talent but I really do think his bad sucks. To each his own.

[DS]

Man the foofighters suck balls, nirvana owns them! Sure dave has loads of talent but I really do think his bad sucks. To each his own.



He was never an excellent guitarist to begin with. Put him behind the drum kit and maybe they would make better sounding stuff. But thats my take on it. FooFighters are alright though. Nothing to be taken seriously though.

[Cisco]

I love the foo fighters, but i pick nirvana over them because i liked their songs better.

Foo Fighters is my top 5, after metallica.

[Cisco]

Oh yeah, Sum41, Blink 182, Good chorolette... those punks are all the same to me. They're crap. I don't see how Sum41 is nu-metal and i don't understand how they are even worthy of mention. I'd take staind, evanescence, and coheed way way over them... and i don't even feel too much for those 3 bands. I like the vocals of the singer in staind though.

[EvilKing]

Oh yeah, Sum41, Blink 182, Good chorolette... those punks are all the same to me. They're crap. I don't see how Sum41 is nu-metal and i don't understand how they are even worthy of mention. I'd take staind, evanescence, and coheed way way over them... and i don't even feel too much for those 3 bands. I like the vocals of the singer in staind though.

Oh, i'm sorry, but...no.

First of all, blink wasn't a band to take seriously...you get past that and they had a lot to offer. Good charlotte was a band for little kids, simple as that. Then you have Sum41, who have developed their metal side so much, that they have been personally invited to play w/ metallica, and james is openly a fan of theirs because of this (same exact story w/ CKY, actually, if you didn't know). Say waht you say about metallica, but if they hand-pick you to open up for them, that deserves some respect.

THEN you go on to say that 17 shades of emo staind, and evanecence are in the same realm as anything that doesn't suck limp bizkit ass. Further more, you go on to put them in the same group as coheed and cambria.

please stop now.

[zakky]

Oh yeah, Sum41, Blink 182, Good chorolette... those punks are all the same to me. They're crap. I don't see how Sum41 is nu-metal and i don't understand how they are even worthy of mention. I'd take staind, evanescence, and coheed way way over them... and i don't even feel too much for those 3 bands. I like the vocals of the singer in staind though.

These aren't punk bands. People need to face facts, true punk has been dead for a LONG LONG time now. I can't put an exact date on it but its was probably around the same time as The Exploited's last tour... and was further butchered but Chumbawumba's 'Tubthumping'. No matter how much you want to believe it, Green Day is not punk, they are huge posers.

As for Nirvana, they're alright, not great. I agree that they are overrated but they probably aren't the most overrated. This much is true though: If Kurt Cobain hadn't committed suicide, Nevermind wouldn't be number one on every fucking VH1 countdown that Nirvana qualified for.

[Dasrik]

Nirvana is not good, anyone who disagrees is just a hater hater.

See, I can make sweeping generalizations to negate your point of view too! (But in my case, I'm right.)

[Dander]

Lets put Cobains personal life out. It's obvious that guy was a psychopath, i heard he had a double personaility or something. In the end, Nirvana is a legendary band because their music is all that matters. I could read how much of a wakko that guy was but it still wouldn't make a difference because i judge on his musical talent.

From what I've seen, the only reason Nirvana is even famous, is because of Kurt Cobain.

I'd ask everyone that says they love them to name all the songs on a single album but they probably wouldn't be able to, because they don't own them. They'd just mention the ones they downloaded cause they heard them on kroq.


boo nirvana. force your issues onto me...suck my dick.

[Cisco]

Oh, i'm sorry, but...no.

First of all, blink wasn't a band to take seriously...you get past that and they had a lot to offer. Good charlotte was a band for little kids, simple as that. Then you have Sum41, who have developed their metal side so much, that they have been personally invited to play w/ metallica, and james is openly a fan of theirs because of this (same exact story w/ CKY, actually, if you didn't know). Say waht you say about metallica, but if they hand-pick you to open up for them, that deserves some respect.

THEN you go on to say that 17 shades of emo staind, and evanecence are in the same realm as anything that doesn't suck limp bizkit ass. Further more, you go on to put them in the same group as coheed and cambria.

please stop now.

Oh please, sum41 is complete ass simple as that. The vocals are just crappy, and the insturmentals aint anywhere near good. Sum41, Blink 182, Linkin Park, and Good Cholrlette are all in the same to me... i call them "trl" bands, w/c is equivellent to 100% shit bands because they fuckin suck so fuck them and fuck there piss poor boot leg attempt to do rock music. Staind i haven't heard too much of them, but i've seen them listed in the Nu-metal genre and i consider them better than that *** of a band sum41. I don't know how you consider that "17 shades of emo" because songs like "so far away", "from the inside" etc sound a bit more realistic and the bald guy's voice is nice anyway. You can say staind sucks since i don't care anyway. EVanescence has amy lee, i don't feel the band either since i find them boring to listen to, but she has terrific vocal talent and she's definetly one of a kind.


I get the feeling tha the majority of the people who are dogging on Nirvana aren't really into rock music. Its seems hard to believe that anyone who is into rock music would say that Nirvana sucks. That's straight up nonsense in the rock world.

[Nick T.]

Nirvana is just chill out music. Nothing more.

They're "OK"

[DS]

I get the feeling tha the majority of the people who are dogging on Nirvana aren't really into rock music. Its seems hard to believe that anyone who is into rock music would say that Nirvana sucks. That's straight up nonsense in the rock world.



The Clash > Nirvana

[EvilKing]

Oh please, sum41 is complete ass simple as that. The vocals are just crappy, and the insturmentals aint anywhere near good. Sum41, Blink 182, Linkin Park, and Good Cholrlette are all in the same to me... i call them "trl" bands, w/c is equivellent to 100% shit bands because they fuckin suck so fuck them and fuck there piss poor boot leg attempt to do rock music. Staind i haven't heard too much of them, but i've seen them listed in the Nu-metal genre and i consider them better than that *** of a band sum41. I don't know how you consider that "17 shades of emo" because songs like "so far away", "from the inside" etc sound a bit more realistic and the bald guy's voice is nice anyway. You can say staind sucks since i don't care anyway. EVanescence has amy lee, i don't feel the band either since i find them boring to listen to, but she has terrific vocal talent and she's definetly one of a kind.


I get the feeling tha the majority of the people who are dogging on Nirvana aren't really into rock music. Its seems hard to believe that anyone who is into rock music would say that Nirvana sucks. That's straight up nonsense in the rock world.

You know, it's fine that you like Nirvana. It's perfectly acceptable that they're your favorite band. Noone's trying to get you to stop listening to them.

But you dont know shit about music.

[Dasrik]

i call them "trl" bands, w/c is equivellent to 100% shit bands because they fuckin suck so fuck them and fuck there piss poor boot leg attempt to do rock music.
And your opinion is valid because?

[7 5 0]

Nirvana was great. In fact, many non-rockers converted to Rock in the 90's and even today. Kurt was a talented song writer, an average good guitar player and singer.

I still listen to them today. Their music was filled with enormous emotion. The only thing that stopped them were drugs which put an end to their legacy.

[hawaiigamer142]

i heard dave grohl wrote a lot of the guitar work for nirvana.

and as for Sum 41, [im with evilking] don't dog them because the only airtime they get is with their pop-punk songs. Go listen to "Bitter End" [best Sum 41 song IMO] and then tell all your friends you rocked out to "faggy" music because you're totally being ignorant.

[Khiempossible]

how popular today would nirvana/cobain be if he didn't shoot himself?

not very I should think.

EDIT: People have definitely already brought up this fact. More importantly though. Cisco has a classic case of musical scrub. He makes his own rules, plays his own game and convinces himself that he's right. I want to bring up his metallica thread where he tried to convince people that since metallica > britney spears, metallica was one of the greatest bands ever.

[Dasrik]

Damn, by that logic, Mazzy Star are the gods of rock, since they're better than Jessica Simpson.

[EvilKing]

EDIT: People have definitely already brought up this fact. More importantly though. Cisco has a classic case of musical scrub. He makes his own rules, plays his own game and convinces himself that he's right. I want to bring up his metallica thread where he tried to convince people that since metallica > britney spears, metallica was one of the greatest bands ever.dont forget that Evanesence>Blink182 (just cuz sum girl sings purty) thus Nirvana saved rock and roll:looney: and Staind isn't emo. Oh, and don't let Serp into this.....:wink: