Who in the US is best at each game

[dog-face]

So every newcomer in fighting games and in SF in general wonders, "who is the best" at each respective game. In the US atleast.

And that's a good question.

Who in the US is "the BEST" at that game?"

I'll start and throw some out there to get this thread going. I don't know enough about OG SF to write, but I'll do my best. EDIT!

WW - HF
Tomo. The legend.

ST
Watts? Cole? Valle? Choi? Wolfe bros? Debatable.

Alpha 1
Mike Watson
Auto block Ken. Case closed.

Alpha 2
Alex Valle. No doubt. Pick up the Versus guide on eBay.

Alpha 3 - John Choi
V-Sak is tops in the hands of a champ

Street Fighter 3 Second Impact
Valles cheats with Akuma!

Street Fighter 3 Third Strike
Pyrolee's Yun is Jap style

Marvel Super Heroes
I dunno.

COTA
Fuck this game.

XSF
Out of sheer respect, I give this to SpiderDan. However, I would own him nowadays.

MvC1
Eddie Lee made War Machine a household name!!

MvC2
Um. . .we all know this one.

CvS1
I guess Ricky Ortiz with his little Naks on this one.

CvS2
I still pick Combofried. Others insist on Ricky. Discuss!!

AE
the Wolfe bros treat this game like it's new

Vampire Savior
Sabre or Jeron for sure

Mortal Kombat 2
DreamTR ruled XBand for years

Killler Instinct
(tie)
SicDic/Mr.Wizard/Sabre all ate fools on their XBand Super Nintendos

Tekken 5
Evidentally this Crow gentleman is quite good

Everyone spit your opinions at me. Truth be told!!

-Vix

[TarkanX]

What about Garou, Guilty Gear, Samurai Shodown, King of Fighters, Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3, and Virtua Fighter?

[dog-face]

What about Garou, Guilty Gear, Samurai Shodown, King of Fighters, Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3, and Virtua Fighter?

Sure, that's all respectable. I just don't know shit about those games. But I'll try some of the more obscure ones.

Mortal Kombat 2
DreamTR ruled XBand for years

Killler Instinct
(tie)
SicDic/Mr.Wizard/Sabre all ate fools on their XBand Super Nintendos

I NEED input!!!

Help!

[Troyboy's Back!]

Guilty Gear XX Slash: Alex Garvin

[goodm0urning]

Fuck that. Yie Ar Kung Fu was OG. Let's list some high level Yie Ar competitors.

[ckrazy]

tekken 5 should be crow back to back champ

[ruin-]

Guilty Gear XX Slash: Alex Garvin

Wrong :(

Alex G is my boy and is fucking buff but I think he's far from the best in the us at slash. He was alot stronger in #R.

Slash is too hard to call right now in the us very inconsistent results in the US I think the best in my personal opinion go from in no particular order.

Elvenshadow
Combofiend
Cue
Zidanel33t or whatever
Alex G
Kugler

I think all those guys are in the running for tops right now. I'm sure more people think they should be on that list but NOPE

[Chozen1]

Fuck that. Yie Ar Kung Fu was OG. Let's list some high level Yie Ar competitors.

re: above

hell, if that's the case, how about mortal kombat shaolin monks for kicks, world heroes 2 jet, Samsho5 special and others that I can't name as I'm grubbing while i write.

[dog-face]

Hella scrubs just throwing out random games.

Shit guys, I don't know.

Just make some suggestion open to debate.

2nd Impact: I saw Eddie Lee's Ibuki beat Valle's Ken so Eddie Lee FTW.

MvC1: Sabin (Arturo Sanchez) took that shit from Eddie Lee.

-V

[Spirit Juice]

Wrong :(

Alex G is my boy and is fucking buff but I think he's far from the best in the us at slash. He was alot stronger in #R.

Slash is too hard to call right now in the us very inconsistent results in the US I think the best in my personal opinion go from in no particular order.

Elvenshadow
Combofiend
Cue
Zidanel33t or whatever
Alex G
Kugler

I think all those guys are in the running for tops right now. I'm sure more people think they should be on that list but NOPE

Funny you say that. Out of all the American players, Ruu and Mint said they think Zidanel33t is the best. Grats to him.

[dbostick]

Is there even a scene for VF4: Evo in the States?

[Troyboy's Back!]

Who's Zidanel33t use?

[Silks]

haha, I'm sure they'll be lots of agreeance in this thread. No bias at will pop up.

[Nick T.]

Who's Zidanel33t use?

Anji

[Phrekwenci]

You guys are obviously confused, you must mean this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pg6wD-j2JQ) Zidane.

[shinzaneiken]

Dont fock with COAT or I m gonna eat your soul

[A_Wolfe]

So every newcomer in fighting games and in SF in general wonders, "who is the best" at each respective game. In the US atleast.

And that's a good question.

Who in the US is "the BEST" at that game?"

I'll start and throw some out there to get this thread going. I don't know enough about OG SF to write, but I'll do my best.


ST
Watts? Cole? Valle? Choi? Debatable.

-Vix

Better add me and my bro in there. I was winning the tournaments in ST when they actually played. Also, I beat Valle in EVO2k6. ST Dhalsim vs. ST Ryu. I also beat Daigo in ST perfect for PS2 in an exhibition after the tournament. ST dhalsim and ST balrog got me and my bro to the finals at EVO west. A tournament that included John Choi, Watts, Cole, and Valle.

F-it ask those guys and they'll tell you.

[UCRJesse]

ricky has only been sent to losers by combo twice in tourney if i remember correctly and he's never been knocked out of a tourney by him (ecc combo put ricky in losers and beat jwong to win the whole thing, FFA tourney combo sent ricky to losers but lost 2 sets in grand finals). Ricky got 2nd at evo 2k4 and 2k6, combo got 4th at 2k5 and 3rd at 2k6. I think combo is fuckin good but ricky seems to beat more people and consistently places higher.

[Viscant]

Valle is way better than Eddie at 2i. The last major 2i tournament ECC4, Alex beat Eddie in finals. I think the only tournament Eddie ever beat Alex in was a throwaway SHGL tournament after the main A3 tournament where Alex couldn't pick Akuma.

--Jay Snyder
Viscant@aol.com

[Mashf3st]

You guys are obviously confused, you must mean this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pg6wD-j2JQ) Zidane.

jeezus lol!

[GalzPanic]

If u go by Evo2k4, the best at VF is Shou, then Adam(?)

[TheGrape1]

Hmmm. That's the thing. On SRK, most are only going to care about longterm US tournament games.

At least that's all I care about. They are the only ones with enough history to make any solid claims.

[CaliPower]

I would like to nominate myself in every tourney worthy fighting game(except marvels/KOF) from 96-2001.....

If you have any objections....do research before I make you look bad

[GalzPanic]

Hmmm. That's the thing. On SRK, most are only going to care about longterm US tournament games.

At least that's all I care about. They are the only ones with enough history to make any solid claims.

Yeah, when it comes to VF, Cappo, a good player in the carribean(!) once said that if you truly master ur char in the US, you're probably the best in the us lol.

[TrueSephiroth]

For me, the only ones that I can truly say that is cemented for truth is...

SF2 WW/CE/HYPER/slightly into Super(his last tournament in which he won) - Tomo #1, this is a no brainer and cannot be argued whatsoever.

SFA2 - Alex Valle is #1 for sure, I remember info. about A2 back in the day Valle was always #1

MvC2 - No shit it's Justin Wong

SFIII3S - Pyrolee has proven that he is the best 3S player in the US on more than one occassion.

Those are the only ones that I can stand by.

[cryptesthesia]

the greatest Streets of Rage 2 vs mode player of all time was the wu tang clan

50 dollar bills was the greatest Street Fighter 2 player in the US, check your peachee folders bitches

and i still havent been beat at banging hot chicks in the US of all time, check yer newspaper before i make you look like a ***

-anchorman

p.s. spider dan is the greatest svc2 chaos player
amingo mike is the worst cvs2 player
and i won all world heroes perfect tournies until like 96 (i'm the greatest)

[Dark Geese]

In KOF it would have to be The Answer of K-Force certainly..

NGBC-For now SieClayton reigns supreme. (Winning all tournies he's in including majors)

Others have yet to be determined..

[Carmen]

"Mortal Kombat 2
DreamTR ruled XBand for years

Killler Instinct
(tie)
SicDic/Mr.Wizard/Sabre all ate fools on their XBand Super Nintendos"

Crazy that you remember that! I think I still have my Xband collecting dust somewhere.

[box]

Dogface:

Eddie Lee was #1 in MvC1. Dominated the entire scene. I'm sure even Sabin will agree that Eddie was #1 in MvC1. Every MvC1 tourney at ECC was won by
Eddie Lee.

Ricky Ortiz is #1 for CvS2. 2nd place at evo 2k6. 2nd place at evo 2k4. Combofiend is probably #2 since he got 3rd place at 2k6, and 4th place at 2k5.

[stream3]

SF2/CE/HF - tomo
ST- the usual suspects, cole, watson, choi, valle
MVC2 - jwong
CVS2 - ricky
3s - pyro, ricky, jwong
tekken 5- insanelee (fuck steve)
A3 - choi
A2 - valle
CVS1 - choi, ricky

[Pinion]

Funny you say that. Out of all the American players, Ruu and Mint said they think Zidanel33t is the best. Grats to him.

I've heard mention of Zidanel33t multiple times since I've joined the GG community, but I have yet to see any videos of him..

Anyone have any links they'd like to share?

[Spooty Whiteboy]

SF2/CE/HF - tomo
ST- the usual suspects, cole, watson, choi, valle
MVC2 - jwong
CVS2 - ricky
3s - pyro, ricky, jwong
tekken 5- insanelee (fuck steve)
A3 - choi
A2 - valle
CVS1 - choi, ricky

I thought Tekken 5 would be Crow. Since back-to-back Evo wins and all. And to think...they said he wasn't good enough for USA team in 2k5.

[Henaki]

I've heard mention of Zidanel33t multiple times since I've joined the GG community, but I have yet to see any videos of him..

Anyone have any links they'd like to share?

im pretty sure videotaping rape is illegal

[MegamanDS]

i nominate dogface for xvsf

[Capps Indigo]

for smash bros melee ken is the best

for smash 64 isai is the best

and there is no argument from any of the top players about that.

[Maj]

Wow, somebody is certainly in the mood for drama today.

It wouldn't hurt to have two or three names listed per game. Choi deserves to get mentioned in A2 and Valle was champ at A3 too. Plus MvC1 is the game Viscant used to get famous.

[stream3]

I thought Tekken 5 would be Crow. Since back-to-back Evo wins and all. And to think...they said he wasn't good enough for USA team in 2k5.

yes it is crow.

but i hate steve.

[dog-face]

Now come on, I am not strating drama.

At this point we should all know collectively who is the one best player at each game. I mean, who doesn't put Valle to Alpha 2? Who wouldn't say Justin on MvC2?

Of course, you do get some really gray areas like Cvs2 and ST, but othere than a few games, I think the results can be narrowed down to singular players.

[Viscant]

MvC1...I wasn't even the best on WC by the time that was over. Erik Perez was best on WC by far. To my knowledge, Erik never played Eddie when they were both still playing seriously. IMO, Eddie probably takes it anyways, but Erik should get mentioned.
I shouldn't be mentioned. I went on a 7-9 month winning streak on that but I wasn't playing Spider-Dan or EC then.

--Jay Snyder
Viscant@aol.com

[Juicy G]

Whoever keeps mentioning Zidane for guilty gear is smoking good dust. He's gotten much better but HE'S NEVER WON A TOURNAMENT. The only player who's worth mentioning as best in the Nation is Cue from Nebraska. His track record since Slash came out speaks for itself.

[Sabin]

uhh, im mvc1, the tiers went something like this

eddie lee,
myself,
josh wigfall

the order went something like this, i was the only person to beat eddie lee in major tourneys, (WITH THE ONLY OTHER PERSON TO EVER BEAT HIM BEING RICH FUCKING CARNAGE, lol but overall, we both agreed that me vs him was 6-4, could go either way, but he always had the slight edge since gwm duos fuck red venom hard even with the infinite in play (especially if im on 2p side, because he will pop out of infinite before I can kill him due to glitch, and that means I eat a duo/chipdamage). Josh Wigfall handled everyone in USA, except he couldnt beat Eddie due to the fact that he was a striderine player, and GWM teams -> Striderine. vs me, he went 5-5 dead even, I could never say I was better than him or that he was better than me.

The only nagging thing that we:ll never know about is us never being able to play Erik Perez, granted, I only saw him play once back during the last big MVC1 invitational tourney at B5, but he didnt look anything out of the ordinary compared to top mvc1 players, well never know though, too bad. And Eddie could not enter the B5 mvc1 invitational due to him showing up late, but he told me to take that shit for him, haha.

In short, yeah, Eddie is the best at that game.

btw, these topics are kinda dumb because peoples feelings will be butthurt due to their egos, everyone has one even if they dont admit it.

ps, if you werent around back in the day to SEE THESE TOURNEYS or PLAY THESE PLAYERS for yourself firsthand, then its kinda hard for your opinion to be valid since its mostly just hearsay. I have a opinion on the other games since I was around for a lot of the games listed but these topics are kinda silly imo, but i can talk about one of the games I know best at least

[Ukyo Tachibana]

Whoever keeps mentioning Zidane for guilty gear is smoking good dust. He's gotten much better but HE'S NEVER WON A TOURNAMENT. The only player who's worth mentioning as best in the Nation is Cue from Nebraska. His track record since Slash came out speaks for itself.

But the "whoever" that's smoking dust is Ruu and Mint... I mean I'm sure they are like on crack when they play but... uh... it's our word vs. theirs. :P

[Juicy G]

But the "whoever" that's smoking dust is Ruu and Mint... I mean I'm sure they are like on crack when they play but... uh... it's our word vs. theirs. :P


And yet I don't care...They can say whatever they want.Cue's Track record speaks for itself(1st or close to 1st in nearly every slash tournament so far).Seriously, thats the problem with American gamers now...too much Fellatio on Japanese cocks.

[CrimsonDisaster]

And yet I don't care...They can say whatever they want.Cue's Track record speaks for itself(1st or close to 1st in nearly every slash tournament so far).Seriously, thats the problem with American gamers now...too much Fellatio on Japanese cocks.

Pretty much. I mean Zidane1337 didn't even win singles at Evo East OR Finals, despite there being no Japanese in either event. He's definitely proven himself to be good... but best in the US?
Of course everybody is going to think their hometown favorite (or whoever the Japanese say) is the best in the US or whatever, but face it- each region in the US plays other regions how often again?

Mad respect to people who place consistently and all, but seriously, the limited exposure we have to each other makes it pretty hard to say there's one consistent BEST GG player in the US. There's plenty of people who could be said to be the #1 player but face it, those people have all lost to plenty of other people come tournament time as well. Your region's top player may be hot stuff but they've all gotten peaced out plenty of times too, so whatever.

If GG had a bigger following and if each region got to play other regions more often, then maybe we'd have something substantial to go by. Seeing who is winning/placing in more tournaments than other people when your region holds more tournaments than every other region combined hardly strikes me as an objective way of approaching this.
I mean Austin doesn't even HAVE Slash tournaments, period, and other than Evo and Texas stuff, where has Austin even gone this year? (and we don't even show up to a lot of Texas tournies either) Yet fubar and poon take 3rd and 2nd in Evo singles, so obviously they're not bottom feeders or anything- yet "tournament performance" wise they haven't been placing high in a billion tournaments.

[4649]

this thread is weird but i'll try throwing in my two cents about notable players who've earned my respect in the scene

CVS2 - i still think Buktooth and Kim Hahn are scary
DOA4 - Master and Tom Brady dominate, fuck Jinmaster
GG Slash - Marneto and G.Blood are prolly the best I've seen, but I haven't seen much US GG
HnK - G.Blood's Raoh is disturbing
KOF XI / NGBC - Answer / Clayton......for now ( come to NEC fools )
MvC2 - Justin / Sanford / Duc versus the world
UMK3 - Shock, ded, Selpex and NinjaGrinder all day
Naruto GNT 4 - Florida evidently has the best scene, you'd have to check Willvolution for the best player though
Rumblefish 2 - i dunno, who beasts at CF?
SC - prolly Dan The Nightmare, but SC3 sucks
Smash - Isai and Ken are legends but let's not forget ChuDat and PC Chris - ridiculously good
SFA3 - obviously Valle, remember Daigo switched to V-Ryu? he's why......i'm also surprised nobody mentioned Wes Truelson
3s - Pyrolee and Valle scare me.....i like watching Arlieth too
ST - muthafuckin JUMPSUIT JESSE
EX2+ - Burningfist ( fools don't know about D.Dark.....yet )
T5 DR - Crow
TMNT TF - Zar
VF - Ryan Hart I guess doesnt really count, he's UK

and special shouts to MRWHITEFOLKS for inventing half the shit people do

[Flip Ninja]

For some reason Choi never gets the respect I think he deserves in CVS2. I've never seen him lose to anyone outside of a console tournament and I LIVE in Norcal.

Ricky just travels more so I think he gets more publicity.

[eks]

and special shouts to MRWHITEFOLKS for inventing half the shit people do

:rofl:

[Cue]

And yet I don't care...They can say whatever they want.Cue's Track record speaks for itself(1st or close to 1st in nearly every slash tournament so far).Seriously, thats the problem with American gamers now...too much Fellatio on Japanese cocks.

you know hes right... :lovin:

if you think hes wrong come to my tournie and beat me :arazz:

naw but for real come its gonna be fun, lots of guilty gear, and if you dont like guilty gear..smell my kaka finger!

[evilmuffinmanX]

In KOF it would have to be The Answer of K-Force certainly..

based on?

[dog-face]

This thread is delicious madness since it's about figuring out the one singular best player at each game.

Of course Valle is beast at 3s. Of course Choi eats fools in Alpha 2. But this is about the one best cream-of-the-crop player.

And, like Sabin mentioned, there are egos. But Watson always said you need egos to keep SF heated.


btw, these topics are kinda dumb because peoples feelings will be butthurt due to their egos, everyone has one even if they dont admit it.

ps, if you werent around back in the day to SEE THESE TOURNEYS or PLAY THESE PLAYERS for yourself firsthand, then its kinda hard for your opinion to be valid since its mostly just hearsay. I have a opinion on the other games since I was around for a lot of the games listed but these topics are kinda silly imo, but i can talk about one of the games I know best at least

I agree with you Arturo. I mean, yeah, who am I to do this thread? But it's hella interesting, and in the end, just creates more exciting hype for SF. This thread has been viewed over 1500 times.

Erik Perez was that much of a MvC1 beast? Guy is a Family Fun regular these days, and he was at the XSF cabinet quite a bit at EVO. I swear, I will bring a MvC1 board so all you old school cats can get it settled. But please dust off Mr. Eddie Lee and you and Henry Cen bring him back.

[Satomiblood]

I know he's the best overall, but is Justin Wong the master of each character in Marvel? Some players I know are better than him at playing as certain teams/characters. Anyone care to enlighten me?

[Dark Geese]

Based on the fact that he has won all his XI tournies in the States...He is who I believe to be the best in Garou as well..

In KOF at EVO he ranks as the higathest American...ontop of the list...Only people th

[Perfect Legend]

this thread is weird but i'll try throwing in my two cents about notable players who've earned my respect in the scene

DOA4 - Master and Tom Brady dominate, fuck Jinmaster




Lol sure

You did read the EVO results and past tournament results for every DOA4 tournament right?

[cygnus]

DOA4 - Master and Tom Brady dominate, fuck Jinmaster
I would say something, but the man himself posted. ;P


VF - Ryan Hart I guess doesnt really count, he's UK
Sure 4 years ago. I would say best in the US is a tossup between Shou (lives in Japan now), Maddy, Adam Yuki, Cappo (technically not from the US, dunno if he's still playing or where he is), Kazu (from Japan, lives in the US), and IMF (if I put Cappo on the list I might as well put him, it's been about equal time since I've seen either play).

[evilj]

this thread is weird but i'll try throwing in my two cents about notable players who've earned my respect in the scene

CVS2 - i still think Buktooth and Kim Hahn are scary
DOA4 - Master and Tom Brady dominate, fuck Jinmaster
GG Slash - Marneto and G.Blood are prolly the best I've seen, but I haven't seen much US GG
HnK - G.Blood's Raoh is disturbing
KOF XI / NGBC - Answer / Clayton......for now ( come to NEC fools )
MvC2 - Justin / Sanford / Duc versus the world
UMK3 - Shock, ded, Selpex and NinjaGrinder all day
Naruto GNT 4 - Florida evidently has the best scene, you'd have to check Willvolution for the best player though
Rumblefish 2 - i dunno, who beasts at CF?
SC - prolly Dan The Nightmare, but SC3 sucks
Smash - Isai and Ken are legends but let's not forget ChuDat and PC Chris - ridiculously good
SFA3 - obviously Valle, remember Daigo switched to V-Ryu? he's why......i'm also surprised nobody mentioned Wes Truelson
3s - Pyrolee and Valle scare me.....i like watching Arlieth too
ST - muthafuckin JUMPSUIT JESSE
EX2+ - Burningfist ( fools don't know about D.Dark.....yet )
T5 DR - Crow
TMNT TF - Zar
VF - Ryan Hart I guess doesnt really count, he's UK

and special shouts to MRWHITEFOLKS for inventing half the shit people do

this list is fucked up except marvel and 3s.

[Pinion]

Naruto GNT 4 - Florida evidently has the best scene, you'd have to check Willvolution for the best player though


If that's the case then Projekt84 is the one to be considered tops as he's won practically every Naruto GNT 4 Tournament in Florida.

At Willvo '06 (which is supposedly the Naruto players Evo) he lost to HeartNana who hails from Illinois. So I don't know what that does in terms of who gets placed where.

[aa_overmind]

Based on the fact that he has won all his XI tournies in the States...He is who I believe to be the best in Garou as well..

In KOF at EVO he ranks as the higathest American...ontop of the list...Only people th

KOF XI: Arcade Infinity original FOB's > The Answer and the rest of us!!!

You'll be surprise how freaking good these guys are, but they don't post in SRK or join tourneys!!!

Its mostly an underground thing going on at AI when KOF first comes out!

And when I see the other players there that want to prove how good they are, they don't face the original KOF FOB's there, just some random guys!!

So if a new KOF comes out, you have to be at AI as much as you can to catch these KOF FOB's doing crazy shit and combos that don't get post or noticed 5 months after the game is released, after that they dissapear for some reason:wow:

[FlashMetroid]

Whoever keeps mentioning Zidane for guilty gear is smoking good dust. He's gotten much better but HE'S NEVER WON A TOURNAMENT. The only player who's worth mentioning as best in the Nation is Cue from Nebraska. His track record since Slash came out speaks for itself.

Hold up I believe AlexGs track record is pretty damn impressive aswell

[EWAShock]

UMK3 - Shock, ded, Selpex and NinjaGrinder all day

That's strictly combo wise and you might as well throw DreemerNJ (GOsBroDansFan on here) in there as well. The topic is for US, I am the only person in the above list from the US. US best active-semiretired UMK3 players:

Let's stir up some classic UMK3 drama because it's been a while since there's been any! :party:

Moe
Lex
Shock
Thrower
Everyone else
Tom Brady :rofl:

[white shadow]

for smash bros melee ken is the best

for smash 64 isai is the best

and there is no argument from any of the top players about that.

Props2U!!!:tup: Isai in SSB64 is probably the best example of being the best in a fighting game BAR NONE!!! He is lightyears ahead of even his closest competitors, even moreso than Wong in Marvel.

[Infernoman]

Props2U!!!:tup: Isai in SSB64 is probably the best example of being the best in a fighting game BAR NONE!!! He is lightyears ahead of even his closest competitors, even moreso than Wong in Marvel.

hahaha I've seen both play and DAMN!!! I've given up on Smash commpetitivly...until Brawl come out! :lovin: :badboy:

[TrueSephiroth]

Props2U!!!:tup: Isai in SSB64 is probably the best example of being the best in a fighting game BAR NONE!!! He is lightyears ahead of even his closest competitors, even moreso than Wong in Marvel.

Issai is awesome, but he is not the best example, Tomo Ohira wins that vote, he went through WW, CE, and Hyper undefeated in every major tournament he attended.

[hkrok76]

KOF XI: Arcade Infinity original FOB's > The Answer and the rest of us!!!

You'll be surprise how freaking good these guys are, but they don't post in SRK or join tourneys!!!

Its mostly an underground thing going on at AI when KOF first comes out!

And when I see the other players there that want to prove how good they are, they don't face the original KOF FOB's there, just some random guys!!

So if a new KOF comes out, you have to be at AI as much as you can to catch these KOF FOB's doing crazy shit and combos that don't get post or noticed 5 months after the game is released, after that they dissapear for some reason:wow:

That's because by then, the PS2 port of the game is out so they don't need to be spending coinage anymore =)

[NKI]

and special shouts to MRWHITEFOLKS for inventing half the shit people doHoly shit, now there's a name I haven't heard in YEARS...:rofl:

[aa_overmind]

That's because by then, the PS2 port of the game is out so they don't need to be spending coinage anymore =)

Actually they dissapeared 3 months before the PS2 release, I guess they get bored with it easily, I wouldn't:tup:

[UrIeNaToR]

I would think that kevin parks would be up there in mvc1

[Juicy G]

Hold up I believe AlexGs track record is pretty damn impressive aswell



Im talking since slash,not reload and cue's record in Slash is better than Alex's right now.

[archetype]

vampire savior

GBURSINE

[CrimsonDisaster]

lol guys some guy in my region wins more GG tournaments than everybody else because my region throws a bunch of tournaments that he wins

I think Evo singles counts for a lot more than winning a bunch of tournaments in your own backyard, thanks very much.

[ruin-]

Alex G hasn't done that hot in slash... in reload dude was killing it but only thing I know so far hes won. Was that tourney where he beat kensou :P Cue has been killing it D:. On a track record I think cue definitly is the best in the US at the time.

But I can't say I think he's hands down better then Zidane/Combo/ D:

and I just saw that dude 464646938322 list for slash WOW that's just horrible. Marneto is FARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR from the best in slash I wouldn't even put him in a top 8 in the us :P no hate but he fell a long way. And who the fuck is G blood? hahah

[Jizzz_frame]

just for clarification, there are 3 tekken 5 games.

5, 5.1, DR

i think both evos crow won were 5.1
insanelee might be the best at DR

but i might call tomhilfiger the best tekken player in america. imo

[Veib]

i think both evos crow won were 5.1

No, they were on PS2 5.0. 5.1 is arcade only.

[GunflameBuri]

this thread is weird but i'll try throwing in my two cents about notable players who've earned my respect in the scene

CVS2 - i still think Buktooth and Kim Hahn are scary
DOA4 - Master and Tom Brady dominate, fuck Jinmaster
GG Slash - Marneto and G.Blood are prolly the best I've seen, but I haven't seen much US GG
HnK - G.Blood's Raoh is disturbing
KOF XI / NGBC - Answer / Clayton......for now ( come to NEC fools )
MvC2 - Justin / Sanford / Duc versus the world
UMK3 - Shock, ded, Selpex and NinjaGrinder all day
Naruto GNT 4 - Florida evidently has the best scene, you'd have to check Willvolution for the best player though
Rumblefish 2 - i dunno, who beasts at CF?
SC - prolly Dan The Nightmare, but SC3 sucks
Smash - Isai and Ken are legends but let's not forget ChuDat and PC Chris - ridiculously good
SFA3 - obviously Valle, remember Daigo switched to V-Ryu? he's why......i'm also surprised nobody mentioned Wes Truelson
3s - Pyrolee and Valle scare me.....i like watching Arlieth too
ST - muthafuckin JUMPSUIT JESSE
EX2+ - Burningfist ( fools don't know about D.Dark.....yet )
T5 DR - Crow
TMNT TF - Zar
VF - Ryan Hart I guess doesnt really count, he's UK

and special shouts to MRWHITEFOLKS for inventing half the shit people do
Gwyrgyn Blood for GG? and Isai for SSBM? Get the fuck outta here.

I'm gonna toss my cents in here, along with some doujin fighters. Their fighters too!

GG: Cue. Plain and simple. I WOULD put Alex on here, but his character has fallen off, and in succesion, he suffers too.

SSBM: Ken. Hands down. his Marth is fucking retarded. PC Chris is up there too.

NGBC: Jeron

Melty Blood: ZtB. =P

Eternal Fighter Zero: Hmm, this one is tough.

Immaterial and Missing Power: Bellreisa. Gwyrgyn Blood too, but he doesnt play anybody so I'm sure he's fallen off hardcore and will probably lose to Master Chibi in this game now.

[Jizzz_frame]

No, they were on PS2 5.0. 5.1 is arcade only.

thanks, you know i thought so, but then i thought i was just being confused with DR.

tekken players were complaining that everyone played DR and so they didnt care about EVO, i figured it was 5.1, because nobody played that.

[Rise Vader]

Crow won ts6 which was DR so get off it. The dude is the best tekken player in the states right now PERIOD.

[evilj]

what tekken players went to ts6? especially from cali? valle doesn't count

The last and only major DR tourney to date was Norcal Strong Style, which featured japanese players attending too.

Crow is definitely the best in 5.0 no question, as for T5 DR, the latest version of tekken, I think that's still a big toss up.

[aa_overmind]

I am the undefeated champion of Eternal Champions CD, because I never faced anyone in ECCD in my life :tup:

[Jizzz_frame]

i dont think anybody besides valle from california went. i could be mistaken though.

edit: just checked the site. didnt recognize any names from california besides valle. and doesnt look like too many top names were there.

crow is an amazing player. id like to state that before i get flamed.

[white shadow]

Issai is awesome, but he is not the best example, Tomo Ohira wins that vote, he went through WW, CE, and Hyper undefeated in every major tournament he attended.

Oh yeah I forgot about him.

But did he ever lose like in matches, not overall tournies? The most impressive thing is that Isai's (recorded) win rate in SSB64 is like 99.6% and averages only 2 stocks (most of them being suicides :lol:) versus the best players out there, both here and Japan.

Maybe I'm more biased because unlike Tomo, there's plenty of vids out there of him decimating everyone and he's STILL the best after all these years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRmCRt8Qk3E

[coN]

I can speak for SC3 but really, who cares about the game anymore?

Best players (opinion) when the game was actually popular on console... (in no order)


Linkrkc
Agustin
Mick
Blaze
BrianH8s (came up near the end of the console versions cycle)

I would throw Vints in there as well but hes a Canadian. Same with the nats winner, (cant remember his name) but no offense, the nats thing was kind of a joke.

[Zee Tee Bee]

TMNT TF - Zar
you forgot sabin & jeron. we are all pretty much even in this game.


Melty Blood: ZtB. =P
lol do i know you?

but seriously, i dropped to no. 2 until i can do iads on stick :rolleyes: .

[Dark Geese]

I see what you are saying AA..

JeRon being best at NGBC??

Nope..SieClayton wins all/95% of his NGBC tournies including one that JeRon was in....FR9..

Which places Sie at the top of the NGBC list...


And one of the many I am hunting down (along with JeRon etc)..straight from Denton, Texas.

And I shall claim their spots!!! Determination it is..I do not give up..I shall become the best!!

[geadom]

I can speak for SC3 but really, who cares about the game anymore?

Best players (opinion) when the game was actually popular on console... (in no order)


Linkrkc
Agustin
Mick
Blaze
BrianH8s (came up near the end of the console versions cycle)

I would throw Vints in there as well but hes a Canadian. Same with the nats winner, (cant remember his name) but no offense, the nats thing was kind of a joke.


Omega Mitsurugi was the winner AND after he won the Nationals, He went to Texas and kicked ALL the asses there. So even trough that he's Dominican, he is the best at SC3 W/out doubt.

[coN]

Once again, no offence but my post said, "when the game was popular". That is not to take away from OM because he truly is a great player.

And when OM came to Texas, why he thought the best SC3 players were from Dallas was beyond me. It WASNT ALL Texas players as you hope it to be, it was just Dallas. I dunno who told him that or what (Dallas players best in Texas), but he was lied to. The only person OM played from that list was Hates. But its too late now to play the other 4 best. No one cares about the game too much these days. Unless AE comes out on console, SC3s life is pretty much over...

[Master Chibi]

EFZ = ZtB as well.

;p

[TrueSephiroth]

Who does Omega Misturugi use? Misturugi? However, I've always found those nicknames to be misleading, like MDJ for example, he played Jin back in T4, but in T5, I at least dont see him playing Jin anymore, so again, who did Omega use to beast people in SC3?

[coN]

Mitsu.

[Satomiblood]

I am the undefeated champion of Eternal Champions CD, because I never faced anyone in ECCD in my life :tup:

Fuck that. I'm a beast at Pit Fighter. And I've actually gone up against people (my older brother).

[geadom]

Who does Omega Misturugi use? Misturugi? However, I've always found those nicknames to be misleading, like MDJ for example, he played Jin back in T4, but in T5, I at least dont see him playing Jin anymore, so again, who did Omega use to beast people in SC3?

He used Zasalamel. And he used Mitsu ONLY on the finals of the Nationals.


And when OM came to Texas, why he thought the best SC3 players were from Dallas was beyond me. It WASNT ALL Texas players as you hope it to be, it was just Dallas. I dunno who told him that or what (Dallas players best in Texas), but he was lied to. The only person OM played from that list was Hates.


He didn't thought that. He went to texas to visit his family, not to play. And still kicked MAJOR ass. If Texas players wanted to play him, they should have gone to Dallas INSTEAD OF STAYING AT HOME CRYING THEY ARE ALL THE BEST.

The best is the one that plays in tournaments and wins. Not the ones that stay at home saying that the Nats are a joke or whatever other excuse. Welcome to the real life.

[insanelee]

there is no #1 in dr.

bronson.

[coN]

The best is the one that plays in tournaments and wins. Not the ones that stay at home saying that the Nats are a joke or whatever other excuse. Welcome to the real life.
Eh? I thought videogames were just a past time, not the real life.

In anycase, if you had read my post, i clearly stated (and to reiterate ONCE AGAIN) "the best players when the game WAS popular". Around the time of nats, the game was already considered a joke by almost all communities, including its own. I mean, i thought it was great what Chicagoland had done to jump start the community. But in the end, it was futile partially because of the ruleset they were allowing was made to make people happy. Because of that, without restrictions the game was a broke POS and no one really cared about it anymore.

Im apart of the SC community and i like SC but thats the truth on SC3s incredibly short lifespan.

And besides, i thought this thread was pointing at the best players in the US?

EDIT - 4649, that list is... interesting to say the least... Any reasoning you wish to share with us to explain why?

[Nori]

If Texas players wanted to play him, they should have gone to Dallas INSTEAD OF STAYING AT HOME CRYING THEY ARE ALL THE BEST.Careful man, con is entitled to his opinion and it's his, don't say "us crying thinking we are the best". I know for a fact TX is strong, but because somebody won nats (it was in somebody's backyard for god's sake) doesn't mean they are the best. However, I don't believe in SC3 there is a proven best. I won't say TX, Cali, DR, anybody. Mick left to the army, at one point in time he was the best. Then agustin from TX beat him. Really, with back and forth results like that, there is no proven best in SC3, just a bunch of people with opinions. Myself and Con know TX is very strong, and don't jump down his throat for putting the people he KNEW were good, as he said "at the time".

[Nori]

Just my 2 cents on some games, it's opinion people. Some of you are getting your blood pressure all high because somebody didn't put your favorite in there

IMO, these are the most CONSISTENT people

Tekken (DR)
Crow
Insanelee
Jinmaster

SC3 (When the game was alive. There were a LOT of good people in SC3 but the game died kinda quick)

Agustin
Mick
Link
Blaze

I don't know a lot about 2D those are the only games I play

[geadom]

Careful man, con is entitled to his opinion and it's his, don't say "us crying thinking we are the best". I know for a fact TX is strong, but because somebody won nats (it was in somebody's backyard for god's sake) doesn't mean they are the best. However, I don't believe in SC3 there is a proven best. I won't say TX, Cali, DR, anybody. Mick left to the army, at one point in time he was the best. Then agustin from TX beat him. Really, with back and forth results like that, there is no proven best in SC3, just a bunch of people with opinions. Myself and Con know TX is very strong, and don't jump down his throat for putting the people he KNEW were good, as he said "at the time".


2 Q's.

1-If winning the NATIONAL TOURNAMENT OF SC doesn't give someone the title of the best, what does? Winning to...You?

2-Why the Texas players didn't go to play when OM was in Dallas? It was the PERFECT opportunity to fight him, but no one showed up...

Just to claim later that there are better players, who COULD HAVE PLAYED HIM, but refuse only to say "We are the best" later.

Cowards.

[coN]

Way to go. Not understanding what we typed and completely missing the point. Are you going to tell me that the game was still popular prior to nats? Do you even know WHY the community ridiculed its own game? Yeesh.

[JeRon]

Didnt see this and its actually quite interesting to see peoples opions and such but heres a couple of games listed or not more or lesst that I feel are statistics to the "Who's the best in the US" conclusion.


Tournament Fighters:
Myself, Saiyd, Arturo or Sanford. Hands down the best 4 in the US in this game. I've won a NG tourny where Arturo got 4th like a year and a half ago. Sanford and Saiyd won a couple of weeklie Round Robins. People sleep on Sanford but hes a beast in this game too. Just like Saiyd says he swears by the "Brains" of the operation Don. hahaha

Neo Geo Battle Collisium: Ok I won Texas Showdown 6 and they handed me the official scroll which states. "Neo Geo Battle Collisium National Champion" now yes I did lose to Lucious and Clayton at FR9 grabbing 3rd, however at FR when I played Clayton in losers finals the settings were all wrong. There was no timer and vitality was on low. This put me at a slight disadvantage, but the match had already gone underway so by time I noticed it I said whatever after like 1 match. Taking nothing away from Clayton and Lucious cause theyre both very good players however one win at FR does not make them the best. Too bad they didnt go to Evo though then we woulda found out!
Final Round 10? :)

CFJ:
Me, Sanford, Justin, Ricky. These are like Top 4 right here. Im actually tie with Justin for second, Sanfords the best, then Ricky's prolly a distance after Buktooth. I beat Ricky at MidWest 2005. Sanford beats Justin at T6 Canada. Justin beat me T6 Canada. I beat Ricky T6. Buktooth beats Justin at Final Round. (Me and Sanford were not there)

KOFXI: Justin or The Answer (Did they play at Evo?)

Vampire Savior: Me or Sabre
I beieve this but too bad me and Sabre didnt get to play at Evo. I won ECCXI. He won MidWest. We can leave it at that but somewhere in the immediate or distant future we will play.

Thats my testomonial. People can agree or agree to disagree but facts are facts :)
Later!


Edit: Oh and not talking shit or anything but I am the best in the US in EX2+. Deal with it lol!

[coN]

Dammit. JeRon took the words outta my mouth. I wanted to say the same exact thing. :mad:

Or rather, something similar. Games that didnt have statistics. I was going to ask mainly about Vampire Saviour since i love the game.

[dialupsucky]

Hey now, I remember doing pretty well when ever I played CFJ come on... Though personaly I think it spretty hard to judge who was the best in the game, when the community fucking killed it in less then a year.

[aa_overmind]

KOFXI: Justin or The Answer (Did they play at Evo?)



Someone said they got dominated by the Jap players!!

XI:
I still say underground FOB AI players > any SRK players mentioned!!!

Just wait until KOF XII comes out, you'll see them again!!

[reconchatumare]

KOFXI: Justin or The Answer (Did they play at Evo?)

:rofl:

You gotta love SRK ... :rofl:

[Mashf3st]

KOFXI: Justin or The Answer (Did they play at Evo?)

Based on? ( I can understand The Answer since he actually won a national but when has justin(wong?) placed nationally?

[THE ANSWER]

NGBC my vote goes to JeRon, know I have never seen this other guy from the East Coast play, but I guess if he can beat JeRon then his #1 cause JeRon has that shit down. I think Dark Geese is up there he just needs to stop CHOCKING.

KOF XI my vote goes to the unknown Fobs that nobody has ever seen or heard about muchless played from AI :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: well outside that guys mind.

[Nori]

2 Q's.

1-If winning the NATIONAL TOURNAMENT OF SC doesn't give someone the title of the best, what does? Winning to...You?

2-Why the Texas players didn't go to play when OM was in Dallas? It was the PERFECT opportunity to fight him, but no one showed up...

Just to claim later that there are better players, who COULD HAVE PLAYED HIM, but refuse only to say "We are the best" later.

Cowards.Wow, those are mighty strong words there, but you don't know who you're talking to so I'll let it slide and pretend you're ignorant

1) The national tournament of SC3 had more than half the people not show up. It doesn't have the same meaning. Never once did I say Omega Mitsurugi isn't a solid ass player. You probably missed the mick and tx part not being there. Hell not just TX, MANY other great qualifiers skipped out on it. Unfortuanatley that means he isn't. He never beat mick, rtd, south tx, some cali players and other players. When more than HALF of a national tourney skips out, there is no undisputed facts, this isn't just sc, this is any tourney.

2) Why should I drive 3 hours to play him? I mean that's cool he got to play some guys I know, but it's not important enough to drive there. There was no tourney, I'm not going to play just 1 person, NOBODY is that important dude


Stop nuthogging on the guy, nobody said he wasn't an excellent player. Anybody that does that to N. TX got props in my book. Hell go read SC.COM. He doesn't have to beat ME persay to say he's the best, but I know for 1 thing he didn't beat me. I can't say I'm better, he can't say he's better. Too many dropouts for nats, if you hold nats as something glorious (again, somebody's BACKYARD) you're very ignorant. Please don't call out TX when you yourself can't probably touch us. All you're doing is flaming us for not putting him in there, so before you piss of a region when their scrubs are probably better than you PLUS we showed him nothing but respect.

[melvox]

what are you speaing about... there's not doub, Omega mitsurugi it's the best player of SC series (soul edge, soul calibur, soul calibur II and soul calibur III).-

no one in USA can beat him... who is the best?

[Adam Warlock]

what are you speaing about... there's not doub, Omega mitsurugi it's the best player of SC series (soul edge, soul calibur, soul calibur II and soul calibur III).-

no one in USA can beat him... who is the best?

Do they give out crack in the welfare lines in the Dominican Republic? You guys are about as useful as tits on a bull. We're talking abut the best in the US. Make another thread to talk about your hometown hero if it makes you feel better. BTW, I'm holding an SC III tourney right now in my bathroom. I AM THE BEST SCIII PLAYER BECAUSE NO ONE SHOWED UP TO PLAY ME!!!!

[SaBrE]

Vampire Savior: Me or Sabre
I beieve this but too bad me and Sabre didnt get to play at Evo. I won ECCXI. He won MidWest. We can leave it at that but somewhere in the immediate or distant future we will play.

Thats my testomonial. People can agree or agree to disagree but facts are facts :)
Later!




jeron: i swear bro, next time, im making sure we get our games on homie. i was so sad that we couldnt get the xsf tourney done to play some vs. im making plans to be at ecc next year. so we wil lget that shit going...

[Master Chibi]

hell yes!

now the vs tourney will have NINE people entered :D!

:rofl:

[Nori]

what are you speaing about... there's not doub, Omega mitsurugi it's the best player of SC series (soul edge, soul calibur, soul calibur II and soul calibur III).-

no one in USA can beat him... who is the best?Like I said, you are making him look bad and ignorance is bliss. To say he's the best at all of those games undisputed is laughable. Mick can probably beat him. How do you know I nor many other players he hasn't played can't? JOP's cervy is awesome but never played a zas. I've played plenty and have just a good of a chance as anybody else. I'm sorry dude, but winning a backyard national tourney doesn't mean you are the best. He's a great player, one of the best, but not undisputed. This is so easy to comprehend but you want to believe he's actually the best at sc and sc2 also lol?

You have no comprehension of actually being the best. Nobody wins a less than 32 man tourney once and is crowned king of the world. He's the king of the Domican Republic, that's it

[Rise Vader]

hmmm from what ive seen
3s. Pyro
Mvc2. Jwong
CvS2 Ricky
ST Watson
A3 Valle

[melvox]

ok, I understand tha Omega Mitsurugi is dominican not american, but! If I win the Nationals in USA, I think that I win the tittle of the best because all the americans who are playing right now, or not?...



Do they give out crack in the welfare lines in the Dominican Republic? You guys are about as useful as tits on a bull. We're talking abut the best in the US. Make another thread to talk about your hometown hero if it makes you feel better. BTW, I'm holding an SC III tourney right now in my bathroom. I AM THE BEST SCIII PLAYER BECAUSE NO ONE SHOWED UP TO PLAY ME!!!!

ok, don´t you know?, he win the nationals... and kick every body in texas too. nobody can beat him... what do you think about that? I know that you are the american absolutly powerfull and we are simply LATINOS for you, keep on rolling baby, I hope that you win your tournament of your bathroom, I wish you all the luck possible.... GOOD LUCK FOLK!

sorry all, Cya soom

[Nori]

ok, I understand tha Omega Mitsurugi is dominican not american, but! If I win the Nationals in USA, I think that I win the tittle of the best because all the americans who are playing right now, or not?...





ok, don´t you know?, he win the nationals... and kick every body in texas too. nobody can beat him... what do you think about that? I know that you are the american absolutly powerfull and we are simply LATINOS for you, keep on rolling baby, I hope that you win your tournament of your bathroom, I wish you all the luck possible.... GOOD LUCK FOLK!

sorry all, Cya soomThis is again what I'm talking about. I'll reiterate: he played a COUPLE of good players in TX, he did not beat EVERYBODY. He did not beat/play me, nor agustin, nor blaze nor anybody else for that matter. Even HE is not saying he beat everybody in TX, it's amazing how you just jump on his nuts because he beat some good players. You are making omega look VERY bad, and trust me, I'm friends with somebody that knows him and he's aware you're embarassing him and making him look bad

Once again, even for people who don't keep up w/the SC3 scene, I'll reitterate: nationals had less than 32 people and was is somebody's BACKYARD! HALF, not some, HALF of nats dropped out. And yet this no name DR fanboy scrub will swear he's the greatest warrior since conan the barbarian

Stop treating this like it's USA vs DR, it's not. It's shit talking scrubs doing that, talking shit. I never dissed omega, not once. But the fact is, he didn't beat every good player. NOBODY IS SAYING HE CAN'T, BUT HE DIDN'T SO FAR! I mean shit, can you guys read??

[ShinjiGohan]

ok, I understand tha Omega Mitsurugi is dominican not american, but! If I win the Nationals in USA, I think that I win the tittle of the best because all the americans who are playing right now, or not?...





ok, don´t you know?, he win the nationals... and kick every body in texas too. nobody can beat him... what do you think about that? I know that you are the american absolutly powerfull and we are simply LATINOS for you, keep on rolling baby, I hope that you win your tournament of your bathroom, I wish you all the luck possible.... GOOD LUCK FOLK!

sorry all, Cya soom


Omega does not live in the USA, therefore he does not count as per the topic rquirement. Going by said logic then for nearly every game that listed someone we could just put the japanese/koreans/DR/ etc...

[reconchatumare]

The best players of the US on each game ... are the US players that got top places of the official game line-up at EVO 2006.

[acquadragon]

yeah, the US is kinda big y'know

unlike the dominican republic, not everyone can just hop on their donkey and get to nationals in 30 mins or less, so not all the best people get to go.

texas alone is bigger, and then you have 49 states to go

wow, what was the subject of this thread again?

[Onyx_Chameleon]

Crow won ts6 which was DR so get off it. The dude is the best tekken player in the states right now PERIOD.

Naw, I bet my boy Slips would rip him a new one. In both tekkens, especially DR. Not saying Crow isn't hella solid. But in both tournies Evo2k5 and 2k6, some U.S.'s best were abcent. Nobody really wants to play T5 at tournies anymore after playing the geniusly tweaked T5:DR. Ts6 was a texas tournie btw. If you want to get real braging rights you have to bring it outside of your local and play at Evo. So he can't be said to be the best at DR.


Too bad Shaun a.k.a UNCONKABLE has moved to Japan, so U.S. can't claim him now. But he was one of America's tops for some time in tekken also. Recently before he moved from Japan he was absent from the tournie seens, so people were spared his wrath.

I don't expect SRK to know a whole lot about the tekken seen being mostly a 2D thing, but Crow does hold the evo tittle for now. But "best in the U.S." me thinkz not! I would credit InsaneLee, before I do that.


Also I'm suprised no one has mentioned A.K.A? The guy is pure skill. I've sat in practice mode with him occassionaly, and the guy is a wiz. And his performance on the GXX seen is fuckin killer.

[Tyram]

marvel super heroes and mvc1 my vote would be for spider dan. his red venom in mvc1 made some noise back in the day and his spider man in msh is pretty nasty.

[Nori]

Naw, I bet my boy Slips would rip him a new one. In both tekkens, especially DR. Not saying Crow isn't hella solid. But in both tournies Evo2k5 and 2k6, some U.S.'s best were abcent. Nobody really wants to play T5 at tournies anymore after playing the geniusly tweaked T5:DR. Ts6 was a texas tournie btw. If you want to get real braging rights you have to bring it outside of your local and play at Evo. So he can't be said to be the best at DR.


Too bad Shaun a.k.a UNCONKABLE has moved to Japan, so U.S. can't claim him now. But he was one of America's tops for some time in tekken also. Recently before he moved from Japan he was absent from the tournie seens, so people were spared his wrath.

I don't expect SRK to know a whole lot about the tekken seen being mostly a 2D thing, but Crow does hold the evo tittle for now. But "best in the U.S." me thinkz not! I would credit InsaneLee, before I do that.


Also I'm suprised no one has mentioned A.K.A? The guy is pure skill. I've sat in practice mode with him occassionaly, and the guy is a wiz. And his performance on the GXX seen is fuckin killer.Well, the people who do keep up w/the tekken scene, dating back from ttt, nobody is gonna say for sure slips will rip crow a new one, that's mighty strong words there. And SRK knows enough about tekken, well the good players, to look at a statement like "best in us for now" as a silly statement w/out proof. Crow won evo, twice. First year beating MDJ (MDJ beat Insanelee the year before). Then this year he wins w/a clean sweep. Insanelee is awesome, but in 5.0, crow won the championship twice. The people that wanted to compete for 5.0 had 2 years to do it, not just 1 event. Many tourneys were crow in either finals or he won. Don't forget TiT last year where Jinmaster came down and got beat, by Crow in DR. Maybe in DR, nobody knows who's the best but 5.0 is undisputed. Slips, Crow, JOP, EP, Tom, Electrical Steve, and a few others were top at TTT, but you can't Slips will definately own Crow. As good as slips is, he got randomized by some fernando guy or somethign in the last major cali tourney. TTT was slips's best era period, and that's highly respectable. Well, I guess your opinion is your own I suppose

[Dark Geese]

NGBC my vote goes to JeRon, know I have never seen this other guy from the East Coast play, but I guess if he can beat JeRon then his #1 cause JeRon has that shit down. I think Dark Geese is up there he just needs to stop CHOCKING.

KOF XI my vote goes to the unknown Fobs that nobody has ever seen or heard about muchless played from AI :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: well outside that guys mind.

Yeah Oscar I hear yah :rofl: ..besides man that was my first NGBC tourney and I'm hella better now than then...

So don't worry I'm on the up and up!!!

I been waiting for the next NGBC tourney so I can do what I gotta do to show everyone what's up!!!!

:lovin:

I shall become the best NGBC player...period!

And others...Some already believe now that I am the best..but tourney results are what counts so Im getting my funds together to go make this happen...out of due respect for others too...

its all about the competition.

So SieClayton, JeRon etc..you guys know you got someone right on your tails!

[l337v1n337]

Naw, I bet my boy Slips would rip him a new one. In both tekkens, especially DR. Not saying Crow isn't hella solid. But in both tournies Evo2k5 and 2k6, some U.S.'s best were abcent. Nobody really wants to play T5 at tournies anymore after playing the geniusly tweaked T5:DR. Ts6 was a texas tournie btw. If you want to get real braging rights you have to bring it outside of your local and play at Evo. So he can't be said to be the best at DR.


Too bad Shaun a.k.a UNCONKABLE has moved to Japan, so U.S. can't claim him now. But he was one of America's tops for some time in tekken also. Recently before he moved from Japan he was absent from the tournie seens, so people were spared his wrath.

I don't expect SRK to know a whole lot about the tekken seen being mostly a 2D thing, but Crow does hold the evo tittle for now. But "best in the U.S." me thinkz not! I would credit InsaneLee, before I do that.


Also I'm suprised no one has mentioned A.K.A? The guy is pure skill. I've sat in practice mode with him occassionaly, and the guy is a wiz. And his performance on the GXX seen is fuckin killer.

You say if you want real bragging rights, you need to take it outside locals and play at evo (which crow did twice).. and here you say your stl boys can rip crow a new one while they just sat at home and crow actually travelled to these tournies? Give me a fucking break. You cant just sit behind your fucking computer screen and blurt out stupid shit like that without backing it up. You have absolutely nothing to base your remarks off of. DR, as insanelee said, is all up in the air right now. But for you to say slips would take crow in 5.0 is just stupid. $5000 seems like a good amount of money to let go of your gaming morals if youre so sure you can win it all.

[SaBrE]

marvel super heroes and mvc1 my vote would be for spider dan. his red venom in mvc1 made some noise back in the day and his spider man in msh is pretty nasty.

in msh sure. but mvc1, arturo dominated that game along with eddie lee. they were the best...

[Edi. E]

Oh yeah? Well I had sex with a Honey-baked ham.

[Rise Vader]

Who was the best at tekken tag?

[Nori]

Who was the best at tekken tag?JOP, Electrical Steve, Slips, Unconkable, Tom were all solid as shit in TTT.

[wonwon]

im ok in tekken 5. I dunno about those other tekkens though

[wonwon]

im ok in tekken 5. I dunno about those other tekkens though

[Nori]

im ok in tekken 5. I dunno about those other tekkens thoughWhat does this have to do w/who is the best in the US at each game? Lots of us are "ok" at tekken

[evilj]

Who was the best at tekken tag?

early on at nationals and worlds, it was mic and valle.

When the game was involving into its prime, it was Tom H, but JOP would go to cali, and beat him. Then JOP dominated for the rest of the time until tekken 4 came out.

The last major tekken tag tournament, Electric Cancel 3, the placings were something like

1) JangSu Won (korea)
2) JOP
3) Ryan Hart (UK)
4) Tom H
5) Unconkable/Insanelee

I believe that's correct. So during that time, i'd say the top 4 us were JOP, tom h, insanelee, and unconkable. No US player could beat JOP during ttt's prime. I think insanelee, true master ogre, and electrical steve might have all sent him to losers before but no one beat him.

After tekken 4 came out, slips started dominating tekken tag winning every single tournament including beating jop. He and unconkable were probably top 2 as no one could beat them.

[Spider-Dan]

uhh, im mvc1, the tiers went something like this

eddie lee,
myself,
josh wigfall

the order went something like this, i was the only person to beat eddie lee in major tourneys, (WITH THE ONLY OTHER PERSON TO EVER BEAT HIM BEING RICH FUCKING CARNAGE, lol but overall, we both agreed that me vs him was 6-4, could go either way, but he always had the slight edge since gwm duos fuck red venom hard even with the infinite in play (especially if im on 2p side, because he will pop out of infinite before I can kill him due to glitch, and that means I eat a duo/chipdamage). Josh Wigfall handled everyone in USA, except he couldnt beat Eddie due to the fact that he was a striderine player, and GWM teams -> Striderine. vs me, he went 5-5 dead even, I could never say I was better than him or that he was better than me.
Of course you know I would have something to say about this...

As an EC list, I accept that. But at ECC4, as I recall, Josh didn't do anything... and I don't remember any other EC tournament where WC players attended.

I think we can all agree that the B5 tourney was waaaaay after the fact and didn't accurately represent the state of the game at the time it was current.

It'd probably be more accurate to separate MVC1 into WC and EC lists, since neither Erik nor Eddie ever left their coast to participate in a tourney.

However, that all being said... I think that clearly, the me/Viscant/Eddie dynamic was the driving factor behind Marvel games becoming established at tourneys. So among the people that mattered (no disrespect), Eddie was the best.

[Devil X]

Well, the people who do keep up w/the tekken scene, dating back from ttt, nobody is gonna say for sure slips will rip crow a new one, that's mighty strong words there. And SRK knows enough about tekken, well the good players, to look at a statement like "best in us for now" as a silly statement w/out proof. Crow won evo, twice. First year beating MDJ (MDJ beat Insanelee the year before). Then this year he wins w/a clean sweep. Insanelee is awesome, but in 5.0, crow won the championship twice. The people that wanted to compete for 5.0 had 2 years to do it, not just 1 event. Many tourneys were crow in either finals or he won. Don't forget TiT last year where Jinmaster came down and got beat, by Crow in DR. Maybe in DR, nobody knows who's the best but 5.0 is undisputed. Slips, Crow, JOP, EP, Tom, Electrical Steve, and a few others were top at TTT, but you can't Slips will definately own Crow. As good as slips is, he got randomized by some fernando guy or somethign in the last major cali tourney. TTT was slips's best era period, and that's highly respectable. Well, I guess your opinion is your own I suppose

if you're talking TTT, slips > crow, no doubt. When slips was all over that game i dont remember him losing to anyone except koreans, unconkable and maybe jop got him once i believe.

crow is the king of 5.0 :china: no disputing that.

[Nori]

if you're talking TTT, slips > crow, no doubt. When slips was all over that game i dont remember him losing to anyone except koreans, unconkable and maybe jop got him once i believe.

crow is the king of 5.0 :china: no disputing that.You're probably right. I threw his name in there because I knew he was really good but not sure what was what. From what I remember, Electrical Steve beat Jinkid and JOP quite a few times, even in their prime

TTT should come back, 5.0 sucks

[TrueSephiroth]

To be honest, I never really liked any Tekken 5 incarnation period...I just don't like the game engine for T5, that's all. Anyways, I always thought that in TTT Ryan Hart was #1, or had been the most consistant during the height of TTT? I mean, he was one of the only few that I ever saw who played Mishimas and did extremely well with them, unless there was someone else in the US who was at Hart's lvl utilizing Mishima's but during the height of TTT if I recall, nobody in the US could use Mishima's like Hart did.

[Devil X]

You're probably right. I threw his name in there because I knew he was really good but not sure what was what. From what I remember, Electrical Steve beat Jinkid and JOP quite a few times, even in their prime

TTT should come back, 5.0 sucks

crow was solid as fuck as you could imagine in Tag as he is in every game, but he was not winning majors.

JOP lost every now and then in winners but he always came back to win the tourny. i only remember him losing 2 tournies until tk4 came out, one atl tourny to i believe the truth and another one to a korean ogre player. in that tourny he beat ryan hart.

we're talking best in the USA though, if youre talking the world koreans owned that game.

[Sabin]

Of course you know I would have something to say about this...

As an EC list, I accept that. But at ECC4, as I recall, Josh didn't do anything... and I don't remember any other EC tournament where WC players attended.

I think we can all agree that the B5 tourney was waaaaay after the fact and didn't accurately represent the state of the game at the time it was current.

It'd probably be more accurate to separate MVC1 into WC and EC lists, since neither Erik nor Eddie ever left their coast to participate in a tourney.

However, that all being said... I think that clearly, the me/Viscant/Eddie dynamic was the driving factor behind Marvel games becoming established at tourneys. So among the people that mattered (no disrespect), Eddie was the best.

Okay, just for argument's sake, take Josh out of the equasion and then it's just me and Eddie (because Josh lost at big tourneys randomly). Do you honestly think anyone could beat me or eddie back in our prime besides Erik Perez? EC had more tourneys for this game (on a weekly basis), more players, and noone on the WC had ever beaten Eddie in his prime except for myself and a few other EC heads. IIRC top in wc for mvc1 was you, viscant, image, valle, and erik...but yeah, you're right, we never got to play in our prime at a tourney except for he og days, ecc4. b4 didnt count since we were just playing to play (even though we squashed wc :P) and b5 which was after the game had died). i mean, viscant beat me, lost to eddie and i beat you and lost to alex, and then after that we never got to play each other in a tourney, so i guess its even :P

oh btw, the last ec mvc1 tourney that wc attended was at ecc5, with valle coming down, and he lost to josh wigfall

[insanelee]

ttt

eric tom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me

during THE ttt era.

bronson.

[Jon Badwolf]

Who is the best in NGBC? I know I am second best in NYC. Second only to JeRon and even I beat his Mr. Big/Rock with mt Wash/Geese.

[Digitalbooty]

I'm the HOTTEST Time Killers player. People travel from distant lands to face my Orion.

[4649]

I'm the HOTTEST Time Killers player. People travel from distant lands to face my Orion.

Nigga please, my Matrix and Musashi are too good.....Darkstalkers-like air chains for the fucking win

Come to NEC and play me in TK if you DARE :annoy: :annoy: :arazz: :arazz: :rofl: :rofl: