Yikes! MvC2 vid - dood getting perfected in EVO pools

[dog-face]

I am not the biggest MvC2 head, but I still know that this is bananas.

Video of some guy getting perfected in his pools.

Worth watching.

http://www.plundered.net/videos/true...tiq.evo2k6.wmv

[R2J]

Fanatiq is too good!
If i ever lost like that,
I'd quit mvc2 forever.

Mos def team beast material !

[unledded]

link doesn't work?

[R2J]

http://www.plundered.net/videos/true_tech/Evo/MoneyMike.vs.fanatiq.evo2k6.wmv

[unledded]

http://www.plundered.net/videos/true_tech/Evo/MoneyMike.vs.fanatiq.evo2k6.wmv

Thanks!

[Alex]

WTF was he playing with a playstation pad? that guys a beast automaticly then

[Adam Warlock]

is he using a macro for both punches? If you have to map macro's in order to dash, you lose automatically.

[dog-face]

Naw, I think the dood with the Macros is the guy that lost.

[RaishinX]

Ouch....

[Silentness!]

wtf I thought you can't have multiple buttons programmed to one button.

AKA using a PS2 controller to have R2 button do two kick buttons.

[FMJaguar]

1) I don't see macros being set, did i miss a part?
2) Silent ness, you can set the buttons anyway you like in the options menu including PP/KK etc... what you cannot do is use your own macros or turbo buttons from outside the game.

[Adam Warlock]

Naw, I think the dood with the Macros is the guy that lost.

Wrong. it's the guy on player 2's side, who got the perfect.

1) I don't see macros being set, did i miss a part?
2) Silent ness, you can set the buttons anyway you like in the options menu including PP/KK etc... what you cannot do is use your own macros or turbo buttons from outside the game.


Yes, you missed the beginning. The match started out on the selection screen so he probably did it in options.


Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's button mapping. If you notice, he never uses assist 1 (guessing he made that his P+P button) and when his order gets fucked up (After DHC to storm) he never calls Psylocke because magneto is in the assist 2 spot and he only makes EM Disruptor calls.

[ShinJN]

Using a converter does not give a PS2 pad the ability to program macros. Even though the PS2 pad has more than 6 buttons, the converter only maps a total of 6 buttons to the PS2 pad. You still have the two punches, two kicks, and two assist buttons. The R1/R2 may be mapped to the R button of the dreamcast input and :1/L2 to the L button.

[KiLLaKeLLy]

when fanatiq uses ps2 pad, he has 1 button dash and minus 1 assist. I think 1 button dash is hella cheap, but whatever works, afterall u do lose an assist. I hear he is pretty good without 1 button dash too.

[Adam Warlock]

Using a converter does not give a PS2 pad the ability to program macros. Even though the PS2 pad has more than 6 buttons, the converter only maps a total of 6 buttons to the PS2 pad. You still have the two punches, two kicks, and two assist buttons. The R1/R2 may be mapped to the R button of the dreamcast input and :1/L2 to the L button.

No, you can still program two buttons to one of the buttons available. It's exactly like I said, he changed assist 1 to be lp+hp. That's pretty cheap as it removes a huge portion of the possibility for error in mags rushdown.

[dog-face]

Even with Macros and auto block, still, a perfect is a perfect.

It's not like he raped the dood 2-0.

[Ken34]

Even with Macros and auto block, still, a perfect is a perfect.

It's not like he raped the dood 2-0.

true, but it is insanely hard to stop a near perfect mags rushdown, with psylocke also being his assist, where in the hell is he supposed to find openings, the minute mags pauses from rushdown, you got an bitchy ass psylocke coming out, IMO her assist is near invincible, you can barely hit her out of it and its hard to get around, if your already trapped in mags rushdown, the best you can do is predict it and try and DHC or something, which you wont get the chance to do because your in mags rushdown...

but then again, the dude that lost didnt even get to land chip damage or anything, so that is still embarrasing.

[MegamanDS]

who the hell is money mike? some random scrub?

[!(•_•)!]

I loved the guy in the background.

"Money Mike!! Get this Money!!!"

Rape.

[db!]

In order to quiet people about this whole obd (one button dash) thing here are a few references as to why its not truly the dash that messes me up.

1. In one section of the vid while I'm doing the rom, I try to squaredash on his sent, using the one button. It comes out as a fierce punch. Why? because the problem is based on timing not wheter or not two buttons are pressed at the same time. U can super jump and press down + both punches all day, but if you don't wait 5 frames before u do it, it will come out as a fierce punch every time. One button or not.

2.
Me playing mike infinite on a mas stick. (http://www.zachd.com/mvc2/evo/evovegas/22i%20MM%20Infinite%20(W%20MSP,SSCC)%20vs%20Fanati q%20(3W%20MSP).wmv)Note, I don't miss a single dash on that whole video. Even while doing the tri-dash inf. w/ storm on his sent. After a match you see me wave dash at least 6 times over his dead body, no mistake. The tape cuts off there but I do do like 8. I don't miss two buttons.

3. IIDX vid played by fanatiq (http://www.escaprism.org/audity/movie/iidx/GOLD%20LAB%20(a)%20AAA.wmv)
Thats me getting first place in the united states on Lab[a] on iidx. As you can see the game is mostly button presses, and like the few combo breaks I do get are on the scratches. I dont' miss two buttons. I've full combo'd songs with much more button presses than that, and can do so on some of em with 1000+ notes in less than 3 minutes on a regular basis. BTW I use the EXACT SAME FINGERING on iidx, as I do in mvc2. i hit assist two with my pinky, (which would be like key 7 on iidx) I hit short with the side of my thumb (which would be like key 5 on iidx. I hit jab with my index which would be key 2 in iidx. Basically I've practiced this fingering forever.

4. I play piano, and have played for 18.5 years. I play my own compositions (there were vids on srk a long time ago) and some of the great's music. I'm not the greatest but I can play pretty well. So I'm very used to sliding my thumb under which is why I claw roundhouse with no problem (in xmvsf)

5. I've perfected crizzle (top 8 this evolution) w/o one button dash, I've never lost to chunksta (2nd place at evo) in a money match (we've had quite a few) w/o one button dash. I beat Smooth viper (the dude who raped all of wc that one day) 3-1 which can also be downloaded here (http://www.zachd.com/mvc2/evo/evovegas/23e%20SmoothViper%20(MCS,MIMS,CSCC)%20vs%20Fanatiq %20(3W%20MSP)%20really%20tired.wmv) on a mas stick (even though I can't play on those well at all. I played several money matches on stick and of them all I only lost one. So I'm not crutched by the obd. I just don't like playing on console sticks. I'm more comfortable on a pad and if that means sacrificing an assist and making a dhc a big mistake so be it.

[skisonic]

a perfect in marvel oh shit!
oh wait its 2006.

I did wonder about that 5 frames bit tho, I knew it was a small amount of time but never could find the exact number, thanks fanatiq. I got a question for you, is it the same situation when doing, for instance, sj short dash down fierce? Is there a certain number of frames where you will get fp too?

[Shinto]

Where is the perfect?

[Spooty Whiteboy]

Where is the perfect?

The last match of the set.

[True_Tech]

yeah that ps2 pad thing was too good i didn't know who he was so after the match i go look at his tag so i know what to put on the match and notice he has a pad in his hand i thought he was on stick the whole time

[Yasashiyama]

Anyone else not able to hear the rest of the vid after the corny intro screen? That shit was still bitchin' though. :tup:

Makes me want to pick up my MVC2 again. Just wish I knew a way to clean out my PS2 to play it. It won't scan my game anymore. :arazz:

[Dark Geese]

I don't even play Marvel and now I feel I got all the info I need to start..Thanks a lot.

That perfect was sheer insanity.. :china:

[Ouroborus]

heh, i dont like console sticks myself either. shit moves around wayy too much especially when doing sentinels fly/unfly crap.

i used to play on dc pad back then but i cant anymore because its insanely hard to mash out of the tempest, do rom infinite, or fast fly combos with sentinel due to the way i play. I use my thumbs unlike most other pad players which really doesnt help when triangle jumping.

nowadays i use a customized stick which is heavy as hell, it still moves around a bit when i play on hardwood floor and fly around with sentinel. it doesnt move nearly as much where i have to readjust it every 5 sec like when playing with the mas or other lightweight sticks.

and yeah, msp is broken as hell. good shit nonetheless

[anthonEEEzy]

fanatiq one of my fav players <3

i wanna c footage of u playin piano

[MegamanDS]

In order to quiet people about this whole obd (one button dash) thing here are a few references as to why its not truly the dash that messes me up.

1. In one section of the vid while I'm doing the rom, I try to squaredash on his sent, using the one button. It comes out as a fierce punch. Why? because the problem is based on timing not wheter or not two buttons are pressed at the same time. U can super jump and press down + both punches all day, but if you don't wait 5 frames before u do it, it will come out as a fierce punch every time. One button or not.

2.
Me playing mike infinite on a mas stick. (http://www.zachd.com/mvc2/evo/evovegas/22i%20MM%20Infinite%20(W%20MSP,SSCC)%20vs%20Fanati q%20(3W%20MSP).wmv)Note, I don't miss a single dash on that whole video. Even while doing the tri-dash inf. w/ storm on his sent. After a match you see me wave dash at least 6 times over his dead body, no mistake. The tape cuts off there but I do do like 8. I don't miss two buttons.

3. IIDX vid played by fanatiq (http://www.escaprism.org/audity/movie/iidx/GOLD%20LAB%20(a)%20AAA.wmv)
Thats me getting first place in the united states on Lab[a] on iidx. As you can see the game is mostly button presses, and like the few combo breaks I do get are on the scratches. I dont' miss two buttons. I've full combo'd songs with much more button presses than that, and can do so on some of em with 1000+ notes in less than 3 minutes on a regular basis. BTW I use the EXACT SAME FINGERING on iidx, as I do in mvc2. i hit assist two with my pinky, (which would be like key 7 on iidx) I hit short with the side of my thumb (which would be like key 5 on iidx. I hit jab with my index which would be key 2 in iidx. Basically I've practiced this fingering forever.

4. I play piano, and have played for 18.5 years. I play my own compositions (there were vids on srk a long time ago) and some of the great's music. I'm not the greatest but I can play pretty well. So I'm very used to sliding my thumb under which is why I claw roundhouse with no problem (in xmvsf)

5. I've perfected crizzle (top 8 this evolution) w/o one button dash, I've never lost to chunksta (2nd place at evo) in a money match (we've had quite a few) w/o one button dash. I beat Smooth viper (the dude who raped all of wc that one day) 3-1 which can also be downloaded here (http://www.zachd.com/mvc2/evo/evovegas/23e%20SmoothViper%20(MCS,MIMS,CSCC)%20vs%20Fanatiq %20(3W%20MSP)%20really%20tired.wmv) on a mas stick (even though I can't play on those well at all. I played several money matches on stick and of them all I only lost one. So I'm not crutched by the obd. I just don't like playing on console sticks. I'm more comfortable on a pad and if that means sacrificing an assist and making a dhc a big mistake so be it.
this is fanatiq btw

[taiji]

good shit fanatiq, hella beasting :smokin:

[sixtymhz]

this whole match was photoshoped

[Silentness!]

this whole match was photoshoped

Wins the thread.

That's why I don't like console. Bring back arcades to America plz!

PS: Wtf was up with the cheeto girl.

[db!]

good shit fanatiq, hella beasting :smokin:

Coming from you, thats a good compliment and I'm honored.

[Magnetro]

a perfect in marvel oh shit!
oh wait its 2006.

I did wonder about that 5 frames bit tho, I knew it was a small amount of time but never could find the exact number, thanks fanatiq. I got a question for you, is it the same situation when doing, for instance, sj short dash down fierce? Is there a certain number of frames where you will get fp too?

haha. There is no exact number, sometimes five works, sometimes it doesn't and yep there is a number before you can do an air dash after a short or anything. If the short hits it's usually like 10-11 or so. If it doesn't, it's like 3 or so.

[MegamanDS]

magnetro...

[MrWizard]

Macros were allowed this year, but you have to be able to set the buttons up in the config screen. This means no directional + buttons at the same time.

[white shadow]

Wow that was sick, there were so many parts where I was afraid Sent was going to jab you, which is funny because I knew the outcome. :lol:

[white shadow]

Wow that was sick, there were so many parts where I was afraid Sent was going to jab you, which is funny because I knew the outcome. :lol:

[BornAgainCommunist]

I played MVC 2 one button dash for years.....i am completely giving up stick now and i am trying to master holding the right side of the pad like a tittie with my thumb and pinky holding the bottom right side of the controller and my index and middle finger doing x, square, triangle, circle. I am gonna try and use my first to finger joints closest to the top of my fingers for the lower row of buttons and the tips of my fingers for the top row of buttons.

Not sure which control pad I am going with....debating x-box which feels cofortable right now and ps2 which i have more experience. perhaps in a couple years Ill be a beast, right around the time when the euros catch up to the rest of the world.

long live pad.

[ShinJN]

No, you can still program two buttons to one of the buttons available. It's exactly like I said, he changed assist 1 to be lp+hp. That's pretty cheap as it removes a huge portion of the possibility for error in mags rushdown.

I see what you mean now. I was totally in the mind set of a "programmable pad/converter," not in-game macro setting.

[Khiempossible]

I've temporarily changed LP to LP+HP so I can learn the timing on ROM infinite. nevermind me though I'm just a newb at this game.

well done on the perfect. that vid is the whole reason I pulled MVC2 out of my closet to learn MSP.

Sucks playing on DC pad though.

[ToyRobotTerror]

I played MVC 2 one button dash for years.....i am completely giving up stick now and i am trying to master holding the right side of the pad like a tittie with my thumb and pinky holding the bottom right side of the controller and my index and middle finger doing x, square, triangle, circle. I am gonna try and use my first to finger joints closest to the top of my fingers for the lower row of buttons and the tips of my fingers for the top row of buttons.

Not sure which control pad I am going with....debating x-box which feels cofortable right now and ps2 which i have more experience. perhaps in a couple years Ill be a beast, right around the time when the euros catch up to the rest of the world.

long live pad.
you got all the time in the world since europe doesn't play marvel.

[50 SENT]

I don't see what's the reason for allowing people to program two buttons in one. Maybe if this was an older VS game where you need 3 buttons to dash, I could see the argument but it's not difficult at all to press two buttons on a DC pad.

[AudioProject]

That was beautiful.

[Plates]

I've temporarily changed LP to LP+HP so I can learn the timing on ROM infinite. nevermind me though I'm just a newb at this game.

well done on the perfect. that vid is the whole reason I pulled MVC2 out of my closet to learn MSP.

Sucks playing on DC pad though.


i couldn't agree more!
i had an x-arcade stick that worked perfectly until one day it decided to die. I returned it, went back to DC pad and died

[Demon Dash]

Link is broken... :/

[laugh]

Maybe because this thread is from 2006? I'd love to see some of the said videos though.

[Desk]

Though I don't want to start loads of shit about this as it's an old thread, I think the button binding thing is broken. And the argument that 'I can do it every time when it's difficult, so why not just make it easy?' is equally broken.

Are you still alowed to do this at evo today?

[Demon Dash]

Maybe because this thread is from 2006? I'd love to see some of the said videos though.
Man, major bump...

[JubeiNinja69]

people usually get perfected at evo. but with a game like mvc2 its just hard to get a perfect when chip damage flies everywhere so this is something. and this is an old thread?

[Eckostyle]

This si why I dont play this game. :\

[Bacardi]

thats ok nelson is a fluke killer

[vegita-x]

In order to quiet people about this whole obd (one button dash) thing here are a few references as to why its not truly the dash that messes me up.

1. In one section of the vid while I'm doing the rom, I try to squaredash on his sent, using the one button. It comes out as a fierce punch. Why? because the problem is based on timing not wheter or not two buttons are pressed at the same time. U can super jump and press down + both punches all day, but if you don't wait 5 frames before u do it, it will come out as a fierce punch every time. One button or not.

2.
Me playing mike infinite on a mas stick. (http://www.zachd.com/mvc2/evo/evovegas/22i%20MM%20Infinite%20(W%20MSP,SSCC)%20vs%20Fanati q%20(3W%20MSP).wmv)Note, I don't miss a single dash on that whole video. Even while doing the tri-dash inf. w/ storm on his sent. After a match you see me wave dash at least 6 times over his dead body, no mistake. The tape cuts off there but I do do like 8. I don't miss two buttons.

3. IIDX vid played by fanatiq (http://www.escaprism.org/audity/movie/iidx/GOLD%20LAB%20(a)%20AAA.wmv)
Thats me getting first place in the united states on Lab[a] on iidx. As you can see the game is mostly button presses, and like the few combo breaks I do get are on the scratches. I dont' miss two buttons. I've full combo'd songs with much more button presses than that, and can do so on some of em with 1000+ notes in less than 3 minutes on a regular basis. BTW I use the EXACT SAME FINGERING on iidx, as I do in mvc2. i hit assist two with my pinky, (which would be like key 7 on iidx) I hit short with the side of my thumb (which would be like key 5 on iidx. I hit jab with my index which would be key 2 in iidx. Basically I've practiced this fingering forever.

4. I play piano, and have played for 18.5 years. I play my own compositions (there were vids on srk a long time ago) and some of the great's music. I'm not the greatest but I can play pretty well. So I'm very used to sliding my thumb under which is why I claw roundhouse with no problem (in xmvsf)

5. I've perfected crizzle (top 8 this evolution) w/o one button dash, I've never lost to chunksta (2nd place at evo) in a money match (we've had quite a few) w/o one button dash. I beat Smooth viper (the dude who raped all of wc that one day) 3-1 which can also be downloaded here (http://www.zachd.com/mvc2/evo/evovegas/23e%20SmoothViper%20(MCS,MIMS,CSCC)%20vs%20Fanatiq %20(3W%20MSP)%20really%20tired.wmv) on a mas stick (even though I can't play on those well at all. I played several money matches on stick and of them all I only lost one. So I'm not crutched by the obd. I just don't like playing on console sticks. I'm more comfortable on a pad and if that means sacrificing an assist and making a dhc a big mistake so be it.

Man don't worry about that shit marvel is to broken for all this bullshit....play what u want...if they allow it so be it....it is what it is

Say Fanatiq sorry about not given u that rematch in that money match of ours but i'll be there next year...... you was probably the only person at evo willing to money match me without using that scruby as sentinell player......mad respect man..


Well beside Jwong.....but he is MVC2 so he doesn't count...

Holla.....

[icon032]

iono but links dont work?

[Hitaro0]

Nobody checks post dates ):

[Saotome Kaneda]

Jesus Christ