So did people completely skip over KoF 03? [Archive]

SirFritzalot

10-12-2006, 03:32 PM

I play this and I'm going to get into XI once I fix my HD, but all of my friends seem to really love this game. I can't seem to find any info on it, though. Almost like it fell off the face of the Earth or something.

I know I sound like a noob asking about 03 when XI is what's being played right now, but I'm a little curious

-Fritz:rolleyes:

FullMetalRoss

10-12-2006, 03:42 PM

celcius

10-12-2006, 03:44 PM

I play '03, but I haven't had a chance to try XI yet...

SirFritzalot

10-12-2006, 03:58 PM

the thing with '03 that it got tapped out pretty fast. It wasn't that deep and Duolon/Goro(L)/other character, pretty much ruled the game for free.

I think all the people at sbo used that team?

anyway yeah XI is alot better, it alot like 3 with some good improvements, and most of the characters seem pretty useable.

Hehe, I had no idea it was that broken...although Goro is my best character and my leader...

But yeah, some of the damage levels on some of the supers is rediculously broken (i.e Ralf's qcb,hcf+k or ALL of the grab LDM's in the game).

I'll probably convince people to stop playing it once I fix my HD though...

-Fritz

c0rderr0y

10-12-2006, 04:05 PM

KOF XI is a big improvement and over shadows 2K3 a lot, 2k3 also didn't hold my interests.

spudlyff8fan

10-12-2006, 04:07 PM

2k3 was such random and hectic fun that it's one of the games that re-got me into fighting games. It was passed over cuz of the arcade version's broken-ness (which is funny since probably 5 cabinets of it exist).

Super Warrior

10-12-2006, 04:07 PM

KOF2002 beats KOF03 and XI.

XI is overrated fluff too btw. Not worthy of an import effort whatsoever, unless your TRUELY a die-hard SNK fan and have money to WASTE.

SirFritzalot

10-12-2006, 04:13 PM

KOF2002 beats KOF03 and XI.

XI is overrated fluff too btw. Now worthy of an import effort whatsoever, unless your TRUELY a die-hard SNK fan and have money to WASTE.

I don't have to import anymore, I have other means:wink:

and maybe I've just been playing SF too long, but the motions in KoF 2k2 are incredibly sensitive IMO and I can't do alot of them. I don't think SNK gave you much room for error in that game, cause I can't do much. But then again, I JUST started getting into KoF, so I'll probably get used to it.

Played XI in the arcade, though. Even though I suck on a stick and got my face kicked in, I was hooked!

-Fritz

FullMetalRoss

10-12-2006, 04:24 PM

people should play more KOF 2000, even though there are 100% combos and such I still think the game is pretty buff. It's alot better than people give it credit for.

Plus it's got Bao, Hinata, and Lin! awesome characters!

rogueyoshi

10-12-2006, 04:37 PM

2k3 is horrible thrash. that game is a dumbed down kof with the depth of a puddle. they ruined the game speed, camera and fighting engine when they made that game. besides that, everything was figured out within like months of release.

yes, people should play 2k. great game, lots of mindgames and although there are 100%s, if you waste your meter/bombs doing them, then you'll be screwed for the next round.

cam347

10-12-2006, 06:19 PM

2k3 is ok. Provided the blue-print for XI but what game does not have tier whoring? hmmm only that comes to mind is either Garou or ST. It was broken none the less but at least it was more fresh than 2k2.

4649

10-12-2006, 06:46 PM

Violent Ryo

10-12-2006, 06:54 PM

Playing 2003 will only make you realize how good XI is.

XI=Traditional KOF+2003+more tweaking and refining and new gameplay elements which also ='s to MAD VS. FUN!!!!

I will say however, that the PS2 port of KOF 2003 is really good. Big improvement over the unfinished arcade 2003.

Shinto

10-12-2006, 07:29 PM

Duo raped for free in that game -_- but Malin was much better in that game, then she is in XI

jae hoon

10-12-2006, 07:31 PM

I would think most people would want to skip a huge pile of shit.

I mean unless you like playing games that make DOA look like calculous then go for it.

Shinto

10-12-2006, 07:49 PM

I would think most people would want to skip a huge pile of shit.

I mean unless you like playing games that make DOA look like calculous then go for it.

So true in sooooo many ways.

cam347

10-12-2006, 08:31 PM

I would prolly still be playin 03 though if XI didnt exist

spudlyff8fan

10-12-2006, 08:45 PM

Yeah. I mean, 2k3's not a bad game. It marked a big step forward for the KOF series, and I'd bet it was the start of many upcoming SNK games to come.

Wellman

10-12-2006, 09:35 PM

KOF '03 is like '94 or SF3: NG, it is a prototype for the next better game.

It was a little faulty in character balance for the new guys, but I did prefer how it brought originality to the series. '02 is fun but I hated how it was literally a huge throwback to '98.

Atb_555

10-12-2006, 10:18 PM

03 was cool when it first came out cos it was the first KoF to allow you to switch between your team mates on the fly. But you weren't given as much freedom to do so, plus all the tag combos were farely basic, barring some character combinations. The speed and general flow of the game sucked. It was really stupid infact! I read somewhere that K' is top tier in this game, how comes?

And I agree that more people should play 2000, 2002 is just stupid they pretty much removed the natural combo ability of everyone, unless your in Max mode, which is flawed since only a few actually benefit from it. What pile of shit. :arazz:

{PFH}-Lake

10-12-2006, 10:44 PM

ya i saw some tourny vids in china a while back and saw how they used Duolon then i didnt even want to play.

VEGA_OMEGA

10-13-2006, 01:04 AM

I've had 2 KOF 03 kits, but both of them got sold when I sold my first supergun. I plan on getting just the cart now that I have a new supergun.

N_paul

10-13-2006, 01:05 AM

It's a really fun game; I didn't have any problems with flow of gameplay, but damn is Duo Lon broken.
(I play with cartridges, is there actually much of a difference?)

So, is 2000 better than 2001 or something?

Mashf3st

10-13-2006, 01:26 AM

I don't have to import anymore, I have other means:wink:
-Fritz
Stealing is wrong!:shake:

Festival6667

10-13-2006, 01:41 AM

Depends on which 2k3 : ps2 is okay though XI makes 2k3 useless. Neo is pure garbage since the engine is bugged to the core (cf. the wake-up grab properties), worst kof ever on neo :(

Kasou

10-13-2006, 02:19 AM

03 was an amazingly fun game. Nothing serious, nothing competitve. Me and my bro in hk, would play 03 over 02 anyday. Coz we're not that good, and we just want a quick bash. Anyway 03 is for the casual players, and for that it does realli well. Avoid using duolon and daimon, and the game is pretty fun. But yea, XI is the same fun, plus competitive.

evilmuffinmanX

10-13-2006, 05:11 AM

kof03 rapes so hard!:lovin:

the problem is ppl still wanted to play there faves from kof 67

sorry jackass but i dont care if athena and terry got raped!:arazz:

malin and duo that shit down son! :cool:

kof03 goodness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQz585cGrpk)

poor game died faster then cfj but lived longer then nbc! :lol:

Master Chibi

10-13-2006, 06:16 AM

I miss HINAKO.

;_________;

Emil

10-13-2006, 07:14 AM

And I agree that more people should play 2000, 2002 is just stupid they pretty much removed the natural combo ability of everyone, unless your in Max mode, which is flawed since only a few actually benefit from it. What pile of shit. :arazz:

You must not have watched many combo videos of 2002 then...name me some of these characters that can't combo without maxmode, or characters that can't benefit from maxmode and don't have natural combo ability.

4neqs

10-13-2006, 07:30 AM

So, is 2000 better than 2001 or something?

Yeah man. KOF 2000 may have dumb striker and armor mode stuff, but at least it doesn't offend the eyes and ears like 2001 did.

Shinto

10-13-2006, 07:39 AM

kof03 rapes so hard!:lovin:
kof03 goodness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQz585cGrpk)

God why do blocking sound soo...like sex?:confused:

Dark Geese

10-13-2006, 07:46 AM

I bet you some of you may have wondered why I havent commented yet..well quite frankly because whatever needs to be said has already been said in this thread!

Yeah KOF2001 does offend both the eyes and the ears make no mistake about it.

jae hoon

10-13-2006, 07:54 AM

No no one is wondering or cares.

jimmy1200

10-13-2006, 08:18 AM

i was wondering when he was gonna comment. only reason i read the thread:confused:

Atb_555

10-13-2006, 11:52 AM

You must not have watched many combo videos of 2002 then...name me some of these characters that can't combo without maxmode, or characters that can't benefit from maxmode and don't have natural combo ability.

Ok that was a bit of an overstatement but they did make it incredibly difficult to perform even most basic combos. Eg: K': jump C, s.C (1 hit), qcf + A / C (can't remember which one), f + B.

Khiempossible

10-13-2006, 09:51 PM

Atb_555

10-13-2006, 10:10 PM

Lol to me 2k2 sucks, it seems as if they made the hit boxes for jumping attacks small.

Emil

10-14-2006, 08:04 AM

Lol to me 2k2 sucks, it seems as if they made the hit boxes for jumping attacks small.

Sorry but that combo you mentioned is like...too easy to do. As for hitboxes, it depends on the character...how can you say that Chris's jump CD hitbox is small? Or K's jump D? Or Kim's jump A/C/D? I actually can't find many examples where the hitbox of the jump attacks would be very small, except for maybe Ryo's jump D. You're just finding dumb reasons to bash the game. I find combos very easy to do in that game, even many max combos such as Kim and the like. I can't see the argument about hitboxes being small at all.

As for Kof2001 CAN be a good game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3uVYpJriv0

Ignore the rating of 3/5, some guy gave it like 12 1/5's over the span of an hour.

Atb_555

10-14-2006, 08:22 AM

Still don't like the game. I would play 2001 over 2002 anyday and I don't even like 2001 that much.

ParryAll

10-14-2006, 08:28 AM

I know I completely skipped over it.

cygnus

10-14-2006, 09:07 AM

Ok that was a bit of an overstatement but they did make it incredibly difficult to perform even most basic combos. Eg: K': jump C, s.C (1 hit), qcf + A / C (can't remember which one), f + B.
The timing is the same for that combo in 2000 and 2002, it's just in 2002 the stand close C pushes back further. You'll want to use C(1) f+Bxxqcb+K for a B&B combo anyway.

Lol to me 2k2 sucks, it seems as if they made the hit boxes for jumping attacks small.
That's just a flat-out lie.

Lantis

10-14-2006, 10:08 AM

Still don't like the game. I would play 2001 over 2002 anyday and I don't even like 2001 that much.

I think that statement alone speaks volumes about your skill level. :rolleyes:

FSgamer

10-14-2006, 10:41 AM

Ok that was a bit of an overstatement but they did make it incredibly difficult to perform even most basic combos. Eg: K': jump C, s.C (1 hit), qcf + A / C (can't remember which one), f + B.
The controls totally suck on the PS2 & Xbox versions of 2002. However, I was told that the controls on the arcade & Neogeo versions are much better.

Control issues aside, KOF 2002 is a great game.

evilmuffinmanX

10-14-2006, 10:54 AM

S

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3uVYpJriv0

Ignore the rating of 3/5, some guy gave it like 12 1/5's over the span of an hour.

needs more 95(and not the ones from orichangoy) :sweat:

DietSoap

10-14-2006, 11:02 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3uVYpJriv0

Ignore the rating of 3/5, some guy gave it like 12 1/5's over the span of an hour.Nice match, it was funny how the only game Japan won they finished using a Korean character. :lol: I gave your vid a 5/5, BTW.

bill_rizer

10-14-2006, 11:22 AM

Still don't like the game. I would play 2001 over 2002 anyday and I don't even like 2001 that much.

You play 2001? JERUS!!! *Terry Bogard engrish*

Im a SNK fan but even I gota draw the line at pure shitness that is 2k1.

The best part about that game is when you turn it off.

Saotome Kaneda

10-14-2006, 12:12 PM

sorry jackass but i dont care if athena and terry got raped!:arazz:
You must not have seen the tier lists, because Terry and Athena are still pretty high up there. It's just why bother using them when you can Duo Lon/Daimon/(filler) for the win?
I miss HINAKO.

;_________;
co-sign. Hina-chan was TOO BUFF.

cygnus

10-14-2006, 12:25 PM

The controls totally suck on the PS2 & Xbox versions of 2002. However, I was told that the controls on the arcade & Neogeo versions are much better.
All true. The controls on DC were fucked up too. Actually they seemed more consistent with a pad, but not on stick (MAS).

I remember playing it for DC when it first came out, and my friends and I noticed the control issues. I sat on 2p side and did 10 fireballs, 100% success rate. Did the same for 1p side, 0% success rate. I have never had execution troubles in any other game, there is definitely something wrong with it.

Atb_555

10-14-2006, 02:11 PM

You play 2001? JERUS!!! *Terry Bogard engrish*

Im a SNK fan but even I gota draw the line at pure shitness that is 2k1.

The best part about that game is when you turn it off.

No...I said I would play 2k1 over 2k2...but both are shit in my eyes. The only KoFs I ever enjoyed are 2k, XI and a bit of 98.

ArcadeFire

10-14-2006, 03:00 PM

No no one is wondering or cares.

LMAOWNED

I liked 03 but it's really a stepping stone for XI. Ash, K', Goro, and DL ruled.

SirFritzalot

10-14-2006, 03:34 PM

Well I had my reasons for playing 03

I didn't really like 2k or 01, because I think the striker system is stupid and the 4-on-4 with one super is equally stupid respectively. 2k2 had a nice selection of characters, but some of the moves, especially the real simple ones, were really hard to do. I went and practiced after I posted and I started getting the hang of them a little, but I don't think I'd like playing a match only to mess up a combo because the game wouldn't recognize a command. I just ended up sticking with Ralf/Clark/Daimon. Some of the match vids on youtube of the chinese are pretty insane, though; especially Vanessa.

Goodness, didn't know the game was $65:looney:

-Fritz:sweat:

rukawa_kaede

10-14-2006, 03:55 PM

well

there's something 2001 have that 2k2 or 2k3 don't have and that's

Better Graphics (backgrounds,sprites,effects etc)

the old SNK was still here

SNK/EOLITH

ArcadeFire

10-14-2006, 04:04 PM

Stupidity

LAWL.

2001 was made and published by EOLITH. 2001 had shitty music and BG's the only good thing about it was Hiedern and Kirzalid as a striker

bill_rizer

10-14-2006, 04:19 PM

well

there's something 2001 have that 2k2 or 2k3 don't have and that's

Better Graphics (backgrounds,sprites,effects etc)

the old SNK was still here

SNK/EOLITH

:confused:

2k1 has better graphics and sound than 2k3?

you must be joking right? you must be.....

I wouldnt prefer to play 2k1 over anything the game is shit pure and simple, easliy the worst kof.

Zakuta

10-14-2006, 06:28 PM

I dunno, 2001 has good graphics - 2003 isn't that far away graphically (besides Kim stance), it's just that it's better presented.

Dasrik

10-14-2006, 06:42 PM

Isn't 2001 the KOF where everything looked overexposed?

rukawa_kaede

10-15-2006, 11:40 AM

LAWL.

2001 was made and published by EOLITH. 2001 had shitty music and BG's the only good thing about it was Hiedern and Kirzalid as a striker

:confused:

2k1 has better graphics and sound than 2k3?

you must be joking right? you must be.....

I wouldnt prefer to play 2k1 over anything the game is shit pure and simple, easliy the worst kof.

I didn't mention music, did I?
The old snk was still part of it, at least a little and you can read that on the 10th aniversary page

as graphics, I'm talking about sprites,character sprites,backgrounds and effects. Sprites in 2k1 look smoother than those from 2k2,2k3

backgrounds in 2k1 are alot better than those from 2k2, and effects in 2k2,2k3(light,sound(not music)2k3,when you change characters(2k3),when you do a hidden super(2k2), etc. are just pure crap.

evilmuffinmanX

10-15-2006, 12:46 PM

more kof03 vids! :mad:

when the 99-01 remix cd comes out you niggaz will be all over the new and improved 2k1s dick! :cool:

Gief_100proof

10-15-2006, 12:55 PM

2003 is broken by Duo and retarded throw properties.

2001 is the fat, ugly friend of KoF. All you wingmen can HAVE that garbage.

2000 is the fanboy game. Fantastic art and music and cameos o' plenty. It's a shame the game is XSF levels of retarded. Seriously... first hit wins.

cam347

10-15-2006, 01:14 PM

dont forget that the game was released 2 years too late. So it got to a point where it was like "Is 03 comin out?" "Who gives a shit" and wasn't backed well but blame the Sony Nazi Regime for that

arstal

10-15-2006, 01:25 PM

Has anyone considered 2000 with the house rule of no strikers?

I think that comes out OK.

cam347

10-15-2006, 01:32 PM

Has anyone considered 2000 with the house rule of no strikers?

I think that comes out OK.

possibly

Emil

10-15-2006, 04:00 PM

2000 is the fanboy game. Fantastic art and music and cameos o' plenty. It's a shame the game is XSF levels of retarded. Seriously... first hit wins.

You don't know what you're talking about. Yes, first hit wins when you have all of your striker bombs, and are using strikers like Joe. What are you going to do when you run out of your strikers? Just play a basic game without hte striker mindgames, with no strikers to save you if you make an error?

cygnus

10-15-2006, 04:05 PM

If you want 2000 with no strikers just play 98 or 2k2. 2000 is more fun with strikers.

Emil

10-15-2006, 04:11 PM

If you want 2000 with no strikers just play 98 or 2k2. 2000 is more fun with strikers.

Well I think the armor mode and counter mode gives good depth to the game but I really don't see what this big argument is with the strikers. Most people that bash kof2k only know about possible 100% combos with strikers, and haven't seen them used in any other way besides that. And Arstal, you actually thought you can taunt and cancel the taunt to keep getting strikers, which is not the case since taunt is not cancellable in that game.

Gief_100proof

10-17-2006, 07:21 PM

You don't know what you're talking about. Yes, first hit wins when you have all of your striker bombs, and are using strikers like Joe. What are you going to do when you run out of your strikers? Just play a basic game without hte striker mindgames, with no strikers to save you if you make an error?

You've clearly never played 2000 with anyone who knows what they're doing and you're about 5 years too late for me to be even remotely interested in explaining why you're wrong. Find old match vids, search SRK for potential strat threads, do whatever you want... just go play theory fighter somewhere else.

2k is broke. The end. Next topic.

Mystic_bash

10-17-2006, 08:35 PM

Isnt 97 the most broken(Glitch wise)? I've seen vids that involve leonas boomerang and a character with a command throw. Then again 2k's shermie assist glitch tops them all :(