top character in mvc2

[redshuma57]

cause i was talkin to spider dan and he says ironman is no good and he sucks ? so i want to know after the four gods whos next and whos after him like the full list

[Spider-Dan]

That's actually not even remotely close to what I said.

What I said was that there were two significant tier gaps:

Cable
Magneto
Sentinel
Storm
(gap)
BH
Cyclops
Doom
Spiral
Strider
(gap)

And that Iron Man belonged in neither of those tiers, because every character in that list is significantly better than him.

[Radiant93]

i guess Spider-Dan cleared that up then...

*note. ermm?? is your top tier list in order?? i do think it is:

Storm
Sentinel
Magneto
Cable


--- if im not mistaken..

[ParryPerson.]

I don't think he was placing them in order, just in groups.

[Radiant93]

oh.. sorry for that.

[shoultzula]

That's actually not even remotely close to what I said.

What I said was that there were two significant tier gaps:

Cable
Magneto
Sentinel
Storm
(gap)
BH
Cyclops
Doom
Spiral
Strider
(gap)

And that Iron Man belonged in neither of those tiers, because every character in that list is significantly better than him.

ironman\warmachine belong in the midtier list.

[Preppy]

Tier list is covered here (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45127). I believe(?) that there's a soft ban against creating new tier discussion threads, since it's already been done to death.

[Devil X]

ironman belongs in 2nd tier imo if you factor in his complete value in a team game. he has a great assist and a godly dhc. on point hes not too shabby either, he just has a hell of a time with keep aways that have cyclops assist.

[tech master]

you can never find a set of exact tiers because its all subjective to how each person plays them. IMO the players he listed for 2nd tier do a better job at zoning and control space but when ironman is in control, he's just too deadly. the easiest infinite, a bunch of infinites, a bunch of resets, a bunch of ways to setup the infinites and a bunch of combos that do 100%, easy unblockable, fly option, combos always take you to the corner, has a pretty easy all fierce infinite, priority isnt TOO bad, launcher dodges low attacks, BEST DHC timewise, HP has GREAT reach for his size of a character, FSD infinte. he has a bunch of pros, but his cons can easily be exploited. and im an IM fan so i wont list them LOL.

[Alucard20]

God Tier

Sentinel
Storm
Cable
Magneto

Is is generally accepted that Sentinel and Storm are slightly above Cable and Magneto within this tier, but this is a very very slight difference.

High Tier

Cyclops
Iron Man
War Machine
Doctor Doom
Strider
Spiral
Dhalsim
Blackheart

High Middle Tier

Psylocke
Captain Commando
Tron Bonne

Middle Tier

Cammy
Colossus
Gambit
Iceman
Juggernaut
Marrow
Mega Man
Omega Red
Rogue
Ruby Heart
Silver Samurai
Spiderman
Wolverine - Bone
Wolverine - Claw
Venom

Low Tier

Akuma
Ken
Ryu
Charlie
Guile
B.B. Hood
M.Bison
Captain America
Hulk
Jin
Jill
Felicia
Morrigan
Sakura
Sonson
Zangief

Bottom Tier

Amingo
Anakaris
Chun-Li
Hayato
Sabretooth
Shuma-Gorath
Thanos
Dan
Kobun

Roll Tier

Roll

[Cisco]

I don't know if WM is part of the top tier, he just doesn't bring much to a team other than assists. Unlike IM, who delivers a frame kill dhc w/c is allot of pull points IMO.

IMO. There is no #1, #2... there is no numerical list in the tier bracket.
The Characters in the God list and the top list are equal, they all shine depending on the situations and they also have weaknesses. Many people agree with Sent being number 1, and i see why because he's one hell of a behemoth... but remember, the rise of Sentinel players also rose the rise of Cable players. The only way to bring down this claimed #1 character was to use the claimed lowest of the gods. So there, he has a weakness... they all do. They have there strengths and they have their kryptonite. It all depends now on what your best with... so IMO, Sent, Storm, Mags, and Cable are tied.

The top tier: Strider, Cyke, IM, Doom, Spiral. They're tied to me too. They become stronger than one another and they also become weaker than the other, depending on the situation and the player. Although, i do consider Cyke a notch better than the characters with him but not because he's stronger or anything like that, it's just because he's the only character in the top that was never debated on being top. I've seen lots of threads where more than half would disagree with Strider, Doom, IM, and Spiral being top but never was there a debate on Cyke.

My opinion is that they are all the same. IM can be better than Cyke too, and he has all the rights to be considered top 5 because who can kill an entire team straight? DHC him for the kill, then kill everyone else. Same goes with Strider, Spiral, Doom too... Duc did one evo last year and he used spiral so it shows that spiral is still dangerous.

[Alucard20]

This list is from srk Wiki.So what does this mean???It means it's not wrong.It means.. what ever is on that list is accurate and it's official.


Luckly for me i saved the web page and if u don't believe me, i could upload the srk list so u can see for yourself(since u can't look at the srk Wiki now) .

[ParryPerson.]

lol if it's on the wiki is offical lol.


What a genius.

I hope he does know anyone can edit the wiki.

[beatsofdevil]

That's actually not even remotely close to what I said.

What I said was that there were two significant tier gaps:

Cable
Magneto
Sentinel
Storm
(gap)
BH
Cyclops
Doom
Spiral
Strider
(gap)

And that Iron Man belonged in neither of those tiers, because every character in that list is significantly better than him.
iron man definately belongs there!

and I would say cable loses to mag/storm, they lose to sentinel and he loses to cable? well not really but would be the closest rock-paper-scissors I think from what someone else mentioned.

but MY personal opinion is storm beats all.

[beatsofdevil]

This list is from srk Wiki.So what does this mean???It means it's not wrong.It means.. what ever is on that list is accuraten and it's official.


Luckly for me i saved the web page and if u don't believe me, i could upload the srk list so u can see for yourself(since u can't look at the srk Wiki now) .
how does that make if OFFICIAL???? could you clarify. probably not.

[Alucard20]

Your right. I can't clarify if it offical or not. But one would think it is official since it 's on srk wiki.And if it wasn't official, why would they put it up there?

[box]

Your right. I can't clarify if it offical or not. But one would think it is offical since it 's on srk wiki.And if it wasn't offical, why would they put it up there?

A wiki means any joe-blow from the street can edit the thing. There's no "official" tier list... but there is a generally accepted one and the one on SRK wiki is generally accepted.

[shoultzula]

I don't know if WM is part of the top tier, he just doesn't bring much to a team other than assists. Unlike IM, who delivers a frame kill dhc w/c is allot of pull points IMO.

IMO. There is no #1, #2... there is no numerical list in the tier bracket.
The Characters in the God list and the top list are equal, they all shine depending on the situations and they also have weaknesses. Many people agree with Sent being number 1, and i see why because he's one hell of a behemoth... but remember, the rise of Sentinel players also rose the rise of Cable players. The only way to bring down this claimed #1 character was to use the claimed lowest of the gods. So there, he has a weakness... they all do. They have there strengths and they have their kryptonite. It all depends now on what your best with... so IMO, Sent, Storm, Mags, and Cable are tied.

The top tier: Strider, Cyke, IM, Doom, Spiral. They're tied to me too. They become stronger than one another and they also become weaker than the other, depending on the situation and the player. Although, i do consider Cyke a notch better than the characters with him but not because he's stronger or anything like that, it's just because he's the only character in the top that was never debated on being top. I've seen lots of threads where more than half would disagree with Strider, Doom, IM, and Spiral being top but never was there a debate on Cyke.

My opinion is that they are all the same. IM can be better than Cyke too, and he has all the rights to be considered top 5 because who can kill an entire team straight? DHC him for the kill, then kill everyone else. Same goes with Strider, Spiral, Doom too... Duc did one evo last year and he used spiral so it shows that spiral is still dangerous.

damn kid you have alot to learn......

www.youtube.com and start watching marvel videos.

[beatsofdevil]

damn kid you have alot to learn......

www.youtube.com and start watching marvel videos.
i don't think you quite understood what he was saying.....

[RedSilverAnakris]

what the hell, Anakaris a low tier? i guess, generally back in the old days he probably woudlve been, but nowadays, he is higher tier. I may be biased, but he has a better chance of fighting Magneto than Gambit ever did (though its possible, harder fight for Gambit IMO). Adn I also don't see how M. Bison is a better fighter than Anakaris. And Psylocke, CapCom and Trone I admit have excellent assists, the best... but on point, they mostly suck compared to someone like Ken. Their assists, may be the best, but on point they sure as hell aren't. Omega Red has the easiest time fighting Tron. Amingo is amazing too, so how can SpiderMan stand up to him. Omega Red is very versatile, and he sure as hell has an easier time fighting Jugs than Guile ever did.

I don't claim to know all tier ratings, but I can tell that that tier rating is complete bullcrap.

[beatsofdevil]

what the hell, Anakaris a low tier? i guess, generally back in the old days he probably woudlve been, but nowadays, he is higher tier. I may be biased, but he has a better chance of fighting Magneto than Gambit ever did (though its possible, harder fight for Gambit IMO). Adn I also don't see how M. Bison is a better fighter than Anakaris. And Psylocke, CapCom and Trone I admit have excellent assists, the best... but on point, they mostly suck compared to someone like Ken. Their assists, may be the best, but on point they sure as hell aren't. Omega Red has the easiest time fighting Tron. Amingo is amazing too, so how can SpiderMan stand up to him. Omega Red is very versatile, and he sure as hell has an easier time fighting Jugs than Guile ever did.

I don't claim to know all tier ratings, but I can tell that that tier rating is complete bullcrap.

umm you were going good but then you just started going crazy. I would say ana is MID...but gambit does have a better time fighting magz, trust me. idk about M.Bison. Psylocke, Capn, and Tron are definately better than Ken. Tron should kill omega red as long as the tron knows how to play. amingo isnt "AMAZING" but okay, I think mainly gimmicks...spider man is better prolly. omega actually ain't that versatile, guile also actually does do better against juggs.

it isnt COMPLETE BULLCRAP, but more generally correct...you seem a bit biased : /

and I don't think you've played good players who have used those characters that you think should be demoted. I haven't played a good M.Bison so that's why I was unsure of him.

[shoultzula]

what the hell, Anakaris a low tier? i guess, generally back in the old days he probably woudlve been, but nowadays, he is higher tier. I may be biased, but he has a better chance of fighting Magneto than Gambit ever did (though its possible, harder fight for Gambit IMO). Adn I also don't see how M. Bison is a better fighter than Anakaris. And Psylocke, CapCom and Trone I admit have excellent assists, the best... but on point, they mostly suck compared to someone like Ken. Their assists, may be the best, but on point they sure as hell aren't. Omega Red has the easiest time fighting Tron. Amingo is amazing too, so how can SpiderMan stand up to him. Omega Red is very versatile, and he sure as hell has an easier time fighting Jugs than Guile ever did.

I don't claim to know all tier ratings, but I can tell that that tier rating is complete bullcrap.

psylock on point is fucking scary. you just cant fuck with that bitch. psy has instant overhead which can be comboed and a new throw cancel which is beefy. Not to mention all her switch side combos she has. She will beat your face in if you dont respect what she can do.

dont beat on guile. Guiles priority beats all the top tiers clean. I think the only top tier normal move that can beat guile is storms fp but the rest of the top tiers cant touch him. Guiles j.rh beats on sent and flash kick stops square jumps. I guess its possible for guile to beat top tiers if you wanted to take that much to learn how to play him right. He has the tools to do it.

from what I've heard, spiderman is supposedly pretty beefy too. I've never seen a good spidey but I'm sure theres a great one out there.

[Augmint]

psylock on point is fucking scary. you just cant fuck with that bitch. psy has instant overhead which can be comboed and a new throw cancel which is beefy. Not to mention all her switch side combos she has. .


What's this throw cancel thing? :confused:
Was this the combo in magnetro's vid where he does the air throw on storm?

RE tier list - might as well wade in...
The mid tier should cover alot more people ( maybe 20) and some of the bottom tier should be mid.
Anakaris ain't close to bottom ( not that I'm siding with RedSilverAnakris - who likes to tell people he's a noob???) even counting his paper thin stamina. Maybe whoever edited the wiki didn't know about his curse infinite?

Spiderman I'd bump down, plus wolverine ain't mid at all, Bonerine is debateable - pretty beastly with sent. Guile, BB Hood, morrigan, and maybe sakura and Bison could be bumped up.

Gambit is probably a bit high too, has some great normals - high priority launcher, 2 frame crouching jab, but has a few drawbacks as well.

[RedSilverAnakris]

I did tell everyone i was a bit biased. but you are right beatsdevil, I havent played top notch Guiles and Trones, I dont doubt there abilities, but I still think that Omega has better time fighting Juggs and Trone (Ive beat out Trones drill attack with the Omega Strike, and she uses a drill compared to feet), and I still think Anakaris puts up a good fight against most top tiers. I still have to say Omega and Anakaris belong in the 2nd Tier (im not including the Top Tier of Mags), after Cyke and Doom and all them.

But...then again....I am a NOOOB.

[TheMummy]

Anak IMO is Top Tier(at least at the bottom list of High Tier List) or for other's sake, between mid and top.. well based on experience, Anakaris wins my local monthly tournaments against other top players using God / Top Tier characters in our place. Even with my matches during my 2 recent visits in Singapore against their top players. At least I have proved something with Anakaris.

I wish my visit to Brisbane and Sydney will go through this coming December though.... :)

[beatsofdevil]

Anak IMO is Top Tier(at least at the bottom list of High Tier List) or for other's sake, between mid and top.. well based on experience, Anakaris wins my local monthly tournaments against other top players using God / Top Tier characters in our place. Even with my matches during my 2 recent visits in Singapore against their top players. At least I have proved something with Anakaris.

I wish my visit to Brisbane and Sydney will go through this coming December though.... :)
well hopefully YOU can make him top-tier and prove it. as of now he is not and won't be until he does awesome plenty of time at tournaments that matter. but I do agree he is higher than others say he is.

[Mixah]

God Tier

Storm
Sentinel
Magneto
Cable


High Tier
Cyclops
Iron Man
Strider
Spiral
Doctor Doom

High Middle Tier

Blackheart
War Machine
Captain Commando
Mega Man
Tron Bonne

Middle Tier
Psylocke
Dhalsim
Cammy
Colossus
Iceman
Juggernaut
Marrow
Omega Red
Rogue
Ruby Heart
M.Bison
Silver Samurai
Ken
Charlie
Guile
B.B. Hood
Jill
Morrigan
Sakura
Anakaris


Low Tier
Sonson
Gambit
Akuma
Felicia
Ryu
Spiderman
Wolverine - Bone
Wolverine - Claw
Venom
Captain America
Hulk
Jin
Jill
Felicia
Sonson

Bottom Tier

Amingo
Chun-Li
Hayato
Sabretooth
Shuma-Gorath
Thanos
Dan
Kobun
Zangief
Roll


That's closer to correct, IMO

Aside from the two top tiers, the rest are really in no particular order.

[Dasrik]

This list is from srk Wiki.So what does this mean???It means it's not wrong.It means.. what ever is on that list is accurate and it's official.
You are stupid.

[Mixah]

You are stupid.

LMAO, you win at life.

[Shibuya]

i dont play MVC2 competitively but i noticed that for the most part it seems like it doesnt matter as much what character you have as your main but the most important part is what your assist characters are.....maybe im wrong but please correct me if i am.....most of the time it seems like a character does a rush in followed by an assist....usually the assist plays more like a decoy at times or it makes it where the other opponent cant attack and has no choice but to guard unless he wants to get hit by the assist or the main character in.....if he gets hits by the assist then the main character will do the cookie cutter combos or if the opponent is blocking the assist character the main character will try and trick the opponent by going high when the assist is doing low attacks or something.....Am i in the right mind set or am i completely off? IMO if you had good assist and you have good combos with your main like infinites or just a high damage type combo you could use practically anyone.

[Mixah]

i dont play MVC2 competitively but i noticed that for the most part it seems like it doesnt matter as much what character you have as your main but the most important part is what your assist characters are.....maybe im wrong but please correct me if i am.....most of the time it seems like a character does a rush in followed by an assist....usually the assist plays more like a decoy at times or it makes it where the other opponent cant attack and has no choice but to guard unless he wants to get hit by the assist or the main character in.....if he gets hits by the assist then the main character will do the cookie cutter combos or if the opponent is blocking the assist character the main character will try and trick the opponent by going high when the assist is doing low attacks or something.....Am i in the right mind set or am i completely off? IMO if you had good assist and you have good combos with your main like infinites or just a high damage type combo you could use practically anyone.

it matters what characters you have as your main as well... storm / psylocke is less effective vs. sentinel than magneto psylocke.

but in terms of what does damage... yeap.. sentinel's ground assist will always aid in beating the fuck out of magneto... cyclops will always fuck up sentinel's day, etc. etc...

[Shibuya]

That tier chart made...thats main character tier list right.....is that including assisting too or assist tier is in another category?

[Mixah]

That tier chart made...thats main character tier list right.....is that including assisting too or assist tier is in another category?

no, it doesn't count assists, but it's also not solo. It's the overall potential of each character in combination with the possiblity of having an assist, which is exactly why i will say it AGAIN

TIERS IN MARVEL DO NOT MATTER.

[Preppy]

I'm sad the Wiki's dead/broken. It covers all this stuff already (including assist tiers). If you're honestly asking questions, the Wiki pretty much covers it all. Get to it, read it. If you're trying to root for your favorite character, get to Evo and prove yourself. It's easy to win against scrubs or people who don't already know how to beat your New Tricks. Hell, some of the best character development/improvement I've seen has been with Psylocke since some of the people using her really ARE playing against buff-ass competition all the time and thus getting a chance to improve themselves.

[Magnetro]

I'm sad the Wiki's dead/broken. It covers all this stuff already (including assist tiers). If you're honestly asking questions, the Wiki pretty much covers it all. Get to it, read it. If you're trying to root for your favorite character, get to Evo and prove yourself. It's easy to win against scrubs or people who don't already know how to beat your New Tricks. Hell, some of the best character development/improvement I've seen has been with Psylocke since some of the people using her really ARE playing against buff-ass competition all the time and thus getting a chance to improve themselves.



Viscant's old MvC2 articles cover a lot of things people are asking a lot of the time

his articles along with others are found here (http://www.video-opera.com/features/)


PS. Good luck at disneyland, zach!

[Alucard20]

You are stupid.


Stupid?Stupid?Really?Lmao!

wow, it seems like 95% of the people here are assholes(including u).Tell me how am i stupid? Tell me why it isn't official then?why did srk put up a tier list in srk Wiki!?

You sound and look like a idiot, just for saying that "you are stupid" comment.Fuckin asshole!

[Green]

Stupid?Stupid?Really?Lmao!

wow, it seems like 95% of the people here are assholes(including u).Tell me how am i stupid? Tell me why it isn't official then?why did srk put up a tier list in srk Wiki!?

You sound and look like a idiot, just for saying that "you are stupid" comment.Fuckin asshole!
I'm not sure if you can actually read this post, but anyway, if you have problems with everybody on the board, chances are it's not everybody else that's at fault.

You fucking shithead.

[Dasrik]

Stupid?Stupid?Really?Lmao!

wow, it seems like 95% of the people here are assholes(including u).Tell me how am i stupid? Tell me why it isn't official then?why did srk put up a tier list in srk Wiki!?

You sound and look like a idiot, just for saying that "you are stupid" comment.Fuckin asshole!
It seems you are unfamiliar with the concept of a "Wiki", further cementing the fact that you are, in fact, stupid. Please leave.

[Alucard20]

It seems you are unfamiliar with the concept of a "Wiki", further cementing the fact that you are, in fact, stupid. Please leave.

It seems you are unfamiliar with the concept of the edit button.Further more your a idiot!And btw I know what wiki means.



p.s Go fuck a dog and die!

EDIT:Another arrogant asshole added to my Ignore List.

[Mixah]

Stupid?Stupid?Really?Lmao!

wow, it seems like 95% of the people here are assholes(including u).Tell me how am i stupid? Tell me why it isn't official then?why did srk put up a tier list in srk Wiki!?

You sound and look like a idiot, just for saying that "you are stupid" comment.Fuckin asshole!
OK, let's make a list of what you've done wrong with all of your posts, furthering my "asshole-ness", and enhancing your hatred for me.

1. Learn some grammar
a. You're supposed to put a space between each sentence.
2. Dasrik is better than you.
a. Remember this. He's better than you in all aspects of life.
3. Your constant bickering about stupid shit on this forum exploits your own ignorance, rather than show the down falls of others, hence, you fail at that as well. As stated, it's not us, it's you. If you have a problem with everybody here, then it's not us. So please, proceed to be "emo", slit your wrists, make fake suicide notes, and remember that nobody gives the SLIGHTEST amount of shit about you, and you can die in a fire... Twice.
4. You have a small penis.

EDIT:
AHH, yes, there is something I forgot to mention.

WIKI... ANYBODY can edit a wiki, including donkey ass monkey fuckers like yourself. Wiki's are about as credible as you. To clarify that last sentence for stupid motherfuckers like yourself, IT HAS NO CREDIBILITY WHATSOEVER. YOU FAIL, AND DON'T DESERVE TO BREATHE ON THIS FORUM. GO TO www.gamefaqs.com. THEY HAVE SECTIONS THERE FOR STUPID PEOPLE, LIKE YOURSELF...

[Dasrik]

EDIT:Another arrogant assholes added to my Ignore List.
Ah well, I don't need an ignore button to disregard your stupidity.

[beatsofdevil]

It seems you are unfamiliar with the concept of the edit button.Further more your a idiot!And btw I know what wiki means.



p.s Go fuck a dog and die!

EDIT:Another arrogant asshole added to my Ignore List. you are unfamiliar with and edit button also, it's written "an idiot"

you don't know what wiki means, otherwise this shit wouldn't be happening.

you may as well add all of srk.com to your ignore list since the qualifications to be added seems to include anyone smarter than a rock/you.

basically....LEAVE.

[Green]

Got a PM from the Dark Prince Alucard20:


Green:

LOL

Anybody who disagrees with him appears to be put on the His almighty Ignore List. srsly. lawl





alucard:

No,that's only for stupid little people like u and arrogant asses.Go fuck yourself ***.

I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad.

[Preppy]

Co-sign with Dasrik on this. I put that Wiki entry up. Definitely not official, just meant to be a starting point so that noobs would save themselves from the usual new-to-Marvel questions. I though I had put a disclaimer at the top... ? *shrug*

[beatsofdevil]

Got a PM from the Dark Prince Alucard20:



I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad.so does the ignore list really work??? what's the point, he doesn't seem to be ignoring us very well.

[RedSilverAnakris]

u suck alucard, i could beat u in a mathc with my team any day of the week, and I AM A NOOOOB

[Green]

so does the ignore list really work??? what's the point, he doesn't seem to be ignoring us very well.
Apparently it doesn't, unless he's reading the forums with another account or getting a friend to send him the messages posted by the people on his Ignore List.

In any case, he's full of shit and a complete loser.