Newbie who needs tips/advice on how to use ken [Archive]

XMarXTheSp0t

11-06-2006, 11:34 AM

hey i need help on how to use ken in sf3, here is 15 mins of me playing on xb live getting my ass kicked, please leave tips/comments/concerns
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1591226412292919494&hl=en

hold dat

11-06-2006, 11:56 AM

i saw the vid and i think you should focus more on your playstyle than just how to use ken.

i saw a lot of air hurricane kicks and not alot of mixup in your game, and you didnt utilize most of kens strong points. check this vid out...it helped me in terms of how to space and what to do with ken

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPVL187AlGw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-DGOSJLajY

mixup mixup mixup!!!!!! send me a friend request so we can battle as ken is my main also.

XMarXTheSp0t

11-06-2006, 11:59 AM

cool, i'll add you, do you get on aim? if so i can just IM you later so i can meet you on xbLIVE

hold dat

11-06-2006, 12:05 PM

cool, i'll add you, do you get on aim? if so i can just IM you later so i can meet you on xbLIVE

ya my aim is Holddat3

i'm at work now but i'll be on later tonight,

There's other ken users like Scoot Magee, shikyo tenshi, Shinshay, Mad Evil Monkey that i got better from just from playing against them.

to hell with the modesty...i got the best ken on xbl!!!! :angel:

ok,ok, put me in the top 5 (i just cant lie) :rofl:

DevilJin 01

11-06-2006, 12:08 PM

You suck. Get better. Like Hold Dat. Except he sucks too. You ready for that next online tourney Hold Dat? You don't want none of this shinobi action. :lol:

hold dat

11-06-2006, 12:20 PM

You suck. Get better. Like Hold Dat. Except he sucks too. You ready for that next online tourney Hold Dat? You don't want none of this shinobi action. :lol:

that chick still gives me the fits :annoy: ...i got something for that high school dropout though. lol

i 'm comin for that avatar you got DJ lol

XEN MASTER MARK

11-06-2006, 12:35 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPVL187AlGw

Edit: Lol. Didn't check your link until just now Hold Dat :rofl: Great minds think alike dude :)

Bedfast Emperor

11-06-2006, 12:59 PM

I think I know your problem. You're playing cyber85. I hate that guy

Edit: And don't punish with a throw, punish with something that hurts...like a super

hold dat

11-06-2006, 01:13 PM

Great minds think alike dude :)

AMEN MATE....AMEN LOL

Oo 3s masta oO

11-06-2006, 01:21 PM

your main issue is that you really dont understand the basics of the game. Which is ok because you are just learning. Ken is a top tier character for many reasons. Your gameplay should exemplify why he is a top tier character. When learning to use a character you have to play against players better than you (that actually know how to play the game) Hold dat is one of those people. I will make a short list of people for you to play that could help your game

Hold dat
Deviljin(even though he is a scrub)
Shinshay
Mad evil monkey( i think khang said he was going to be playing online agian. not to sure)

Those are some of the best people online to play against. Alot of the better players left the online scene. All of those players i listed are all decent/good ken players. Try playing against them and record your matches post them and we can help y ou better.

-JuNo-

11-06-2006, 02:08 PM

your not bad , i think u need to use kens down mk more and his crossover punch combo and maybe not as many spin kicks, and know when to grab.. also one thing that is useful.. sometimes a person might do a punch or forward kick after they get up wich gives you a chance to parry, but alot of smart players might just roll out and space. And yeah mixup is a big part with ken those vids that where posted before show a lot of good mixups you shuld try.

DevilJin 01

11-06-2006, 02:16 PM

Thanks for the props 3S. :razz:

XMarXTheSp0t

11-06-2006, 04:16 PM

yo it said i couldn't add you, because your friend list is full on xb live

eiSH

11-06-2006, 05:37 PM

I'm not that great of a 3S player, but from what I can tell, you're using the wrong character for your current play style =\ You play very defensive, I dunno why you're running away to full screen when you're Ken of all characters =(

If you want to use Ken.
-Get faster
-Get closer
-Work on your 1-2-3s
-Punish harder instead of just throw, Ken's 1-2-3s hurt so much.
-And just practice your executions =\

I dunno if it was lag or not, but I saw you try to parry a lot and noticed you missed often =P If you stop that ridiculous spamming of the crouching shorts and work on your executions of 1-2-3 -> super, I think you'll see a great improvement in your game.

virgil

11-06-2006, 09:28 PM

R.P.D rookie

11-06-2006, 09:45 PM

JiBbo

11-06-2006, 10:18 PM

Team HoBo!

XMarXTheSp0t

11-07-2006, 11:34 AM

correct me if i'm wrong..... but i remember i had lost a round to you while we were playing one time.. and you post round taunted me and i heard you (and some of your friends i guess) laughing at me over the mike and repeating the little thing ken says when he taunts... wasnt too cool man.

lol dont take talking through the headset seriously, just do that to get into the game/get hyped up haha isn't that why they put taunts in there? i dunno if i played you before but your description sounds like me, maybe sf players are more sensitive, but i know in halo 2 everyone talks all game saying whatever comes to mind, just another part of making xblive fun...dont take it to heart

XMarXTheSp0t

11-07-2006, 11:38 AM

If it isn't Takeittotheface.

I wonder why you made this thread..........couldn't be because you ran into a certain Q player last night that you beat a few times and then you realized he beat your face in when he wasn't being lazy? >=)

That's right.......I post here....RPD rookie posts on srk! You know damn well you remember me, I got you yelling "danger!" in your sleep! Besides your game, you have to work on your manners on xbl. Belching into the mic and yelling "A DOTA BAYO!" in attempts to sound like Ken's taunt after winning a round aren't very becoming. Although who am I to say something like that, those could be part of your mindgames.....mindgames that DON'T WORK AGAINST A LAZY Q PLAYER!

Just saying....

Oh, welcome to srk! Get better with Ken, gogogo!

yea i remember playing you... i dont remember beating you though, not a match atleast maybe a round, and yea i love to taunt, especially when people stand across the screen and do their mid punch to build up super ;) if i remember you love to do that haha but yea you're one of the tougher people on xblive...i dont care if someone kicks my ass i'm just tryna get better

XMarXTheSp0t

11-07-2006, 11:43 AM

ya my aim is Holddat3

i'm at work now but i'll be on later tonight,

There's other ken users like Scoot Magee, shikyo tenshi, Shinshay, Mad Evil Monkey that i got better from just from playing against them.

to hell with the modesty...i got the best ken on xbl!!!! :angel:

ok,ok, put me in the top 5 (i just cant lie) :rofl:

well i played you last night, and i think you're alex is stronger than your ken... Imo o.O......i was going to record our games, but then it said you disconnected after our 4th game so couldn't get the camera ready....

i have a question, not sure if its just a habit or a tactic you were doing, but whenever i jumped in... you never tried to kick/punch/shory me as i was coming in, is that because you're anticipating me to try and attack you so you can parry and then counter? or is it because you're waiting for me to land and try and grab you so you can cancel the grab? cause almost everytime my grab was cancelled, or if i did a late kick i'd hit you

Master Rift

11-07-2006, 11:43 AM

lol dont take talking through the headset seriously, just do that to get into the game/get hyped up haha isn't that why they put taunts in there? i dunno if i played you before but your description sounds like me, maybe sf players are more sensitive, but i know in halo 2 everyone talks all game saying whatever comes to mind, just another part of making xblive fun...dont take it to heart

did anyone call for a hype man???
I cant play under master Rift aNYMORE So ill be playing under Nintro, if anybody sees me

R.P.D rookie

11-07-2006, 04:31 PM

yea i remember playing you... i dont remember beating you though, not a match atleast maybe a round, and yea i love to taunt, especially when people stand across the screen and do their mid punch to build up super ;) if i remember you love to do that haha but yea you're one of the tougher people on xblive...i dont care if someone kicks my ass i'm just tryna get better

Hmmm, well I play Q and Q only....his mid punch is useless for building meter. The only thing I would ever use to build meter with if I ever tried something like that (and I never will cause I like to build meter the old fashioned way, by beating in people's faces) would be crouching medium kick. And the only time I ever do crouching mk is not to build meter but to goof off. If you ever see me do three or more in a row it's definently not for any advantage or building meter.

But yes you did taunt me, because I wouldn't chase after you as you hurled tons of projectiles my way. So, I resorted to textbook RPD: crouch down on other side of screen and throw out those funny looking/sounding crouching mks of Q's.

Sorry, I'm too lazy to chase after people. =/

Bedfast Emperor

11-07-2006, 04:49 PM

You should mix up c. mk with mashing standing jab. That shit looks so goofy if you get in the rhythm lol

R.P.D rookie

11-07-2006, 05:09 PM

You should mix up c. mk with mashing standing jab. That shit looks so goofy if you get in the rhythm lol

That's the point.:rofl:

KStella55

11-07-2006, 07:42 PM

I'm not a very experienced player, but a word of advice. Don't use SRK or low roundhouse on wake-up, people pick up on it very quick and you will get punished, espicially if your playing a Yun player.

XMarXTheSp0t

11-08-2006, 07:38 AM

Me v/s Master Rift or whatever his new tag is...i'm first player

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5206620092227139162&hl=en

am I still fighting the same way? or some improvement?

hold dat

11-08-2006, 08:10 AM

well i played you last night, and i think you're alex is stronger than your ken... Imo o.O......i was going to record our games, but then it said you disconnected after our 4th game so couldn't get the camera ready....

i have a question, not sure if its just a habit or a tactic you were doing, but whenever i jumped in... you never tried to kick/punch/shory me as i was coming in, is that because you're anticipating me to try and attack you so you can parry and then counter? or is it because you're waiting for me to land and try and grab you so you can cancel the grab? cause almost everytime my grab was cancelled, or if i did a late kick i'd hit you

well my Alex is always stronger with the lag we had...sorry i couldnt play you to full potential. but is it me or has xbl been crazy laggy of late???

but you seem to jump alot...so i'm not always going to anti air if you jump in alot. i dont want to get airparried and eat a big combo and i was just feeling you out those matches. and you are not as bad as you say you are....

(this guys a ringer people lol)

hopefull we can fight again if there's no input delay due to lag

shinryu666

11-09-2006, 12:03 PM

you guys are sorry

hold dat

11-09-2006, 12:21 PM

you guys are sorry

http://img120.imagevenue.com/loc323/th_00160_flamewargc6_122_323lo.jpg

you gotta problem with this thread buddy?

DevilJin 01

11-09-2006, 12:42 PM

LOL. Beast pic.

shinryu...you don't even have an avatar. :lol:

Master Rift

11-09-2006, 01:56 PM

lol....,.ever since i put down 3s For HF the Sweep stayed with me.......
as for homie .... Im Not the type of person you want to flame with.

hold dat

11-09-2006, 02:42 PM

I think i played this chump under that gamertag shinryu666...

If they are one and the same, his game is like a trash can in the winter....cold garbage

XMarXTheSp0t

11-10-2006, 07:11 AM

hey Eish, i know i said i was gonna post our vid from yesterday here, but i think i'm gonna post it in the BAD games thread, ok so you'll find it there.

eiSH

11-10-2006, 07:25 PM

I didn't hear a damn thing you said over the mic dude.

R.P.D rookie

11-11-2006, 03:54 PM

hey Eish, i know i said i was gonna post our vid from yesterday here, but i think i'm gonna post it in the BAD games thread, ok so you'll find it there.

LOL!

XMarXTheSp0t

11-13-2006, 07:02 AM

Hold dat v/s TakeItToTheFace

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6038920246710422129&hl=en

Oo 3s masta oO

11-13-2006, 08:04 AM

Hold dat the wake up srk specialist!!!!

XMarXTheSp0t

11-13-2006, 08:36 AM

on wake up, if i press down and forward at the same time, will that save me from having to guess if my opponent will attack low or Mid? and parry either one?

eiSH

11-13-2006, 09:29 AM

on wake up, if i press down and forward at the same time, will that save me from having to guess if my opponent will attack low or Mid? and parry either one?No. It's one or the other -_-;

Edit: Might I suggest you watch some combo videos? -_-; Slim X is always fun to watch. I picked up some of my characters after watching some combo videos. Then again, I play with everyone =\ You won't get far in Street Fighter with your longest combo being crossover kick -> ex Shoryu or jump kick -> SA3.

XEN MASTER MARK

11-13-2006, 01:40 PM

Lovin' the commentary :lol:

Thanks for posting the vids :tup:

DevilJin 01

11-24-2006, 06:50 AM

on wake up, if i press down and forward at the same time, will that save me from having to guess if my opponent will attack low or Mid? and parry either one?

No you noob. That's like asking if blocking low keeps you from getting hit by jump ins and overheads. :lol:

Jokes aside...what you can do is option select. Which is immediately tap down then forward or vice versa to cover both areas in a quick amount of time. This almost allows you to cover 2 areas at once even though there may be a couple frames where you can actually get hit. Once you get good at this you can use it to pressure people during poke strings or on wake up to catch an attack and punish.

XMarXTheSp0t

11-24-2006, 02:37 PM

No you noob. That's like asking if blocking low keeps you from getting hit by jump ins and overheads. :lol:

Jokes aside...what you can do is option select. Which is immediately tap down then forward or vice versa to cover both areas in a quick amount of time. This almost allows you to cover 2 areas at once even though there may be a couple frames where you can actually get hit. Once you get good at this you can use it to pressure people during poke strings or on wake up to catch an attack and punish.

cool, i'll start practicing that