View Full Version : NY Police shoot man on Wedding day
De4dEyE
11-25-2006, 12:40 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061125/ap_on_re_us/police_shooting
NEW YORK - Police shot three young men who had just left a bachelor party at a strip club early Saturday, killing one man on the day of his wedding, according to police and witnesses. One of the survivors was in critical condition.
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It was not immediately clear what sparked the shooting, which produced an outcry from family members and community leaders, including the Rev.
Al Sharpton. The Police Department's chief spokesman, Paul Browne, declined to comment.
The shooting happened just after 4 a.m. near Club Kalua in Queens, said Officer Kathleen Price. She said there were no reports that any officers were wounded. As many as eight officers may have been involved, said Sgt. Mike Wysokowski, another department spokesman.
"All I know, they was celebrating," said Denise Ford, who said her son was one of the survivors. She said the man who died was the groom. "The guy was getting married today."
Relatives said the dead man was Sean Bell, 23.
Robert Porter, who identified himself as Bell's first cousin, said he was supposed to be a DJ at the wedding.
"I still don't want to believe it, a beautiful day like this, and he was going to have a beautiful wedding, he was going to live forever with his wife and children. And this happened," Porter said.
The Rev. Al Sharpton said family members told him that there were no guns in the young mens' car and "there was no reason for the police to shoot."
"On the face of it, it seems to me to be certainly something that causes extreme alarm and must be thoroughly investigated," said Sharpton, who said he was called by a relative of the man who died.
Sharpton said Bell and his fiancee had two children, ages 5 months and 3 years.
Sharpton said after visiting the two wounded men — Trent Benefeld, 23, and Joseph Guzman, 31 — that he was outraged to find the pair handcuffed to their hospital beds. He said one suffered 17 wounds, though it was unclear how many were bullet wounds, and the other man was shot three times.
"We're not anti-police ... we're anti-police brutality," Sharpton said.
Abraham Kamara, 38, who lives a few blocks from the scene of the shooting, said he was getting ready for work when he heard gunfire.
"First it was like four shots," he said. "And then it was like pop-pop-pop like 12 times."
Roy Brown, who said he works as a photographer at the club, said sirens sounded not long after the three men left the club.
"They weren't rowdy or nothing like that," said Brown, 57.
A message seeking comment was left at one phone listing for the club; another phone was not answered.
One of the wounded men was in critical condition at Mary Immaculate Hospital and the other was listed as stable.
Wow, if that's true and they weren't doing anything.. that's one gigantic lawsuit coming up. But still, it's fucked up. To get shot and killed on your Wedding day [though some SRKers would say that's a good thing]? :wasted:
EveryFlowerFlow
11-25-2006, 12:48 PM
Wow, that's messed up.
Side Note: I hate Al Sharpton.
Phoenix Wright
11-25-2006, 12:54 PM
NYPD done fucked up again.
sainthuey
11-25-2006, 01:12 PM
They had to have done something, or he probably rubbed someone the wrong way(no roninchaos).
DropKick Murphy
11-25-2006, 01:21 PM
They had to have done something, or he probably rubbed someone the wrong way(no roninchaos).
You would like to believe that. I bet they were the first people the cops seen that night.
Escapedsoul
11-25-2006, 01:25 PM
:mad: :wow: :shake: :annoy: :amazed: :sad: :wasted: :lame:
Raziel321
11-25-2006, 01:26 PM
always been sayin it always have.
fuck the poe-lease...
1-2 months ago, locally they shot a homeless guy dead cuz he had a stick and they saw him as a threat.
shit like this happens all the time...
i fucking hate copssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss i wanna kill em all, i dont care if there are tight ones and gay ones i hate them alllllllll.
NEVER JOIN THE DARK SIDE...
MrBlank
11-25-2006, 01:29 PM
Well if this was an MMORPG
The police just lost yet again -10,000 reputation points with black people....
They had to have done something, or he probably rubbed someone the wrong way(no roninchaos).
no roninchaos? is that like the new no homo?
vansaykeo
11-25-2006, 01:57 PM
I hate fuckin cops and hope that they burn in hell for what they done to my dad.
Last thanksgiving my dad was driving home and got arrested for doing nothing. This lady that was behind him say that he shift in reverse in the middle stop light/sign and hit her front bumper. As he was driving up the driveway the lady follow him and call the cops on him for hitting her front bumper.
My mom call me on my cell phone told me to get to their house quicking because they going to arrest my dad for hit and run.
As I got there the lady was like he backup and hit my front bumper while I was behind him in a stop light/sign. I look at my dad 2004 Honda Civic back bumper and there wasn't any dent or scracth. The lady was pointing at her front bumper and was showing the black paint from from the accident and it wasn't even black it was gray.
I told the cops that if my dad had hit her front bumper shouldn't my dad bumper have some dent or scracth from the accident because look at the bumper it look have no scracth or paint coming off of it.
The cops didn't care to listen to me because he say that my dad had hit and run. It was my dad word against her because there was no witness to this situtation and I could tell that they were taken her side.
Now my dad is not stupid enough to shift into reverse in the middle of a stop light/sign, shit he been driving for 25 years now.
Demon Dash
11-25-2006, 02:02 PM
That report was weak. "We have no comments..." You sure as hell better have a comment since you and your boys just shot a bunch of guys on their wedding day. Another reason why I hate the police, no matter how much good they might do.
bill_rizer
11-25-2006, 02:29 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061125/ap_on_re_us/police_shooting
Wow, if that's true and they weren't doing anything.. that's one gigantic lawsuit coming up. But still, it's fucked up. To get shot and killed on your Wedding day [though some SRKers would say that's a good thing]? :wasted:
What the funk are you on about, never mind your wedding, getting killed fullstop when you anit done nothing is wrong.
This is when cops come you should run, if you stay they will kill your ass and make some bullshit up, which in any case anit going to help you because your dead.
I hope Satan bum rapes these cops for Eternity.
DropKick Murphy
11-25-2006, 02:41 PM
You know these guys are gettin off right? A cop could ass rape you and your infant baby on tape the worst that would happen is paid leave till that shit blows over or they take a desk job.
You know these guys are gettin off right? A cop could ass rape you and your infant baby on tape the worst that would happen is paid leave till that shit blows over or they take a desk job.
i dont think that could ever happen. i know alot of people relate back to rodiny king video and stuff...but i think people wont let that stuff happen anymore. where you have the physical evidence in your face let that slide. its a new generation and new day.
Will Gotti
11-25-2006, 03:05 PM
i dont think that could ever happen. i know alot of people relate back to rodiny king video and stuff...but i think people wont let that stuff happen anymore. where you have the physical evidence in your face let that slide. its a new generation and new day.
IDK about that. I've seen recent things happening that have been pretty FUCKED up and the police get slaps on the wrists as usual or "they did the right thing for that particulat situation" type deals. I haven't seen a cop go down in a while except a few cases here and there where the cop was fucking up on their own and shit came to light.
sainthuey
11-25-2006, 03:41 PM
no roninchaos? is that like the new no homo?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: , just a variation :wgrin:
Peace
DropKick Murphy
11-25-2006, 03:52 PM
i dont think that could ever happen. i know alot of people relate back to rodiny king video and stuff...but i think people wont let that stuff happen anymore. where you have the physical evidence in your face let that slide. its a new generation and new day.
Nah son, cops get away with a whole lot of shit and the mayor and the police capt would come out and say they did the right thing or they were justified, and you would never hear about it again. It could be a naked legless arm less man and the cops could kill and they would get a justified homicide.
Lick Me Off
11-25-2006, 04:20 PM
I was following this trial on Court TV about 2 or 3 months ago about these cops beating th shit out of a half black half whit guy at some party IN FRONT OF A BUNCH OF PEOPLE. They beat this dude half to deatha nd one of the cops stuck a pen in his ear and they had picks of this dude when he was in the hospital. He looked like a damn freak cuz they beat him so bad. It was fucked up.
So anyways, the cops said that the guy had one of the cops' badge, but they later found out that the dude was dating the cops' ex-girlfriend. All these witnesses saw the cops beating the hell out of this guy and all 3 of the cops got off because 1 witnesses thought 2 of the cops on the force looked the same and coupldnt tell who was involved in the beating.
Long story shirt: Dude gets beaten almost to death and no cops are arrested. They are just kicked off the force.
I dont hate all police, but I hate corrupt ones, and I also fucking hate the ones who dont break the code of silence.
Kyokuji
11-25-2006, 04:47 PM
I'd have to agree. Cops usually get a slap on the wrist for excessive force, that's about it.
Those cops who tazered that Iranian kid, I can almost guarantee that nothing especially bad will happen to them.
fishjie
11-25-2006, 04:59 PM
fuck the pohlice
they get slapped on the wrist, AND GET PAID ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE. lets reward them for fucking over innocent people! yaaay!
Hunter D
11-25-2006, 06:22 PM
i dont think that could ever happen. i know alot of people relate back to rodiny king video and stuff...but i think people wont let that stuff happen anymore. where you have the physical evidence in your face let that slide. its a new generation and new day.
What nigga. Cops can do anything and get away with it. When I was 16 some cop slapped the shit out of me and my friend because we had a joint and my boy was "talking back."
SNAAAAKE
11-25-2006, 07:23 PM
REPRESENT ! :smokin:
The Epidemic
11-25-2006, 07:24 PM
What nigga. Cops can do anything and get away with it. When I was 16 some cop slapped the shit out of me and my friend because we had a joint and my boy was "talking back."
lol...he slapped u!?...thats messed up..
Pablo_the_Mex
11-25-2006, 10:24 PM
fuck the pohlice
they get slapped on the wrist, AND GET PAID ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE. lets reward them for fucking over innocent people! yaaay!
You say that now, but when you get randomly attacked by a group of minorities, calling the cops for help would be the first thing to cross your mind.
The Damned
11-25-2006, 11:54 PM
To get shot and killed on your Wedding day [though some SRKers would say that's a good thing]? :wasted:
Meh. He was getting married.
He was a dead man walking anyway.
Side Note: I hate Al Sharpton.
Same here.
You say that now, but when you get randomly attacked by a group of minorities, calling the cops for help would be the first thing to cross your mind.
Why does it have to be a group of minorities? So that the cops might actually responded unlike if it were a good of wiggers or racist skinheads?
Not like the cops would get there on time anyway unless you go with the "White Women in Trouble" Plan.
By the way, this isn't very surprising. Cops are paranoid people too. Paranoid people with weapons and the ability to use them. The fact they're constantly on edge, partly because of their often shitty reputation, leads to a vicuous cycle of abuse of power.
But, meh. Perhaps minorities should invest in bulletproof vests.
Ouroborus
11-26-2006, 04:51 AM
like they say, your wedding is your funeral.
fishjie
11-26-2006, 05:48 AM
You say that now, but when you get randomly attacked by a group of minorities, calling the cops for help would be the first thing to cross your mind.
which is exactly why itd be nice to be able to trust police so you can depend on them for help when you need it. but with no accountability for their actions, this doesnt happen. good thing cj owns officer tenpenny anyway.
felineki
11-26-2006, 05:56 AM
Further proof that you shouldn't get married.
Rhio2k
11-26-2006, 12:51 PM
no roninchaos? is that like the new no homo?
Beats me...I'd just say no Zulu...no offense to him, of course.
But, yeah, cops can do anything. I was running laps at the park around the corner from my house few years ago at 4 in the morning, and a cop car pulls up and 2 officers get out and sit down on the bleachers on the east side of the field to watch. I finish 2 laps at top speed, and one says "Damn...that HAD to be a mile. That was fast.". I'm doing another lap at near-walking speed, and I see the other cop get up, pull his baton and heard him say "Watch this." I was close to the western gate, and you best believe I took it and went home, but at a normal speed so as not to arouse suspicion. No way in hell I'm gonna stick around and be johnny-on-the-spot for some redneck asshole with a badge who has brother-beating on his mind.
What nigga. Cops can do anything and get away with it. When I was 16 some cop slapped the shit out of me and my friend because we had a joint and my boy was "talking back."
i was talkin about wit cameras n shit. if no cameras around i know wut cops can do to u...trust me.
Darklightjg1
11-26-2006, 02:14 PM
Relatives said the dead man was Sean Bell, 23.
This pretty much reinforces the fact that Sean is low tier.
Serious note: You can't get away with saying "no comment" when you're at the gates of judgement. :shake:
Beats me...I'd just say no Zulu...no offense to him, of course.
But, yeah, cops can do anything. I was running laps at the park around the corner from my house few years ago at 4 in the morning, and a cop car pulls up and 2 officers get out and sit down on the bleachers on the east side of the field to watch. I finish 2 laps at top speed, and one says "Damn...that HAD to be a mile. That was fast.". I'm doing another lap at near-walking speed, and I see the other cop get up, pull his baton and heard him say "Watch this." I was close to the western gate, and you best believe I took it and went home, but at a normal speed so as not to arouse suspicion. No way in hell I'm gonna stick around and be johnny-on-the-spot for some redneck asshole with a badge who has brother-beating on his mind.
wtf they were impressed by u running a mile. damn....lol. u probably could have sped walked and outran them lol.
thurst
11-26-2006, 04:56 PM
these cops are definitely getting off.
and if it wasn't for al sharpton the 2 survivors would probably still be handcuffed to their hospital beds.
oh yeah and one of the cops emptied his clip reloaded and let off some more shots (38 in all)...allegedly.
Rhio2k
11-26-2006, 05:13 PM
wtf they were impressed by u running a mile. damn....lol. u probably could have sped walked and outran them lol.
They WERE a bit on the chunky side, but not totally out of shape.
thedude.com
11-26-2006, 05:51 PM
always been sayin it always have.
fuck the poe-lease...
1-2 months ago, locally they shot a homeless guy dead cuz he had a stick and they saw him as a threat.
shit like this happens all the time...
i fucking hate copssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss i wanna kill em all, i dont care if there are tight ones and gay ones i hate them alllllllll.
NEVER JOIN THE DARK SIDE...
oh sure , go to nepal and kill as much police officer as you can and you'll be a hero over there . because nepal's police force aren't trusted .
white shadow
11-26-2006, 06:03 PM
What always confuses me about these stories are the ones where they unload more bullets than what is in a standard police handgun. I mean to conciously reload after a guy is already shot several times is just freaking sadistic.
spudlyff8fan
11-26-2006, 06:25 PM
Who'd have thought that hitting two cops with your car could possibly end poorly?
And he got shot eleven times and didn't die? Not even ONE headshot? Cops do suck.
SNAAAAKE
11-26-2006, 06:34 PM
saw this on daily news headlines. they shot him 50 FUCKING TIMES
this is so fucking sad..I mean when exactly do you stop shooting..maybe after 10x or 20 :rolleyes:
Zachman
11-26-2006, 09:19 PM
I agree that cops need held accountable for their actions more, but I really think some of you are extremely ignorant when it comes to cops.
AkumaTX
11-26-2006, 11:02 PM
saw this on daily news headlines. they shot him 50 FUCKING TIMES
this is so fucking sad..I mean when exactly do you stop shooting..maybe after 10x or 20 :rolleyes:
50 rounds were fired. Still a lot of bullets for 3 poeple
P@nToM
11-26-2006, 11:23 PM
This thread is becoming anti cop. It should be anti corrupt cop, let's remember thier are good cops out there.
Some on the other hand deserve to die painful deaths.
EvilRyuX
11-26-2006, 11:52 PM
This thread is becoming anti cop. It should be anti corrupt cop, let's remember thier are good cops out there.
Some on the other hand deserve to die painful deaths.
Yeah, but sadly, for every one good thing a good cop does, there's always a bad cop (Or two) that can make things ten times worse.
Lick Me Off
11-27-2006, 12:47 AM
This thread is becoming anti cop. It should be anti corrupt cop, let's remember thier are good cops out there.
Some on the other hand deserve to die painful deaths.
Not to mention good cops that dont tell on the bad cops. I mean, I know its not nice to tattle and all that good stuff, but when you're a cop, you cant be a bad cop. The good ones that dont point the finger are just as bad.
white shadow
11-27-2006, 12:57 AM
Not to mention good cops that dont tell on the bad cops. I mean, I know its not nice to tattle and all that good stuff, but when you're a cop, you cant be a bad cop. The good ones that dont point the finger are just as bad.
How can a few "good" cops fight a system that is designed to destroy them inside and out? Who are they going to tattle to, the chief? The DA who is in cahoots with the chief?
Lick Me Off
11-27-2006, 01:28 AM
How can a few "good" cops fight a system that is designed to destroy them inside and out? Who are they going to tattle to, the chief? The DA who is in cahoots with the chief?
The media or the feds. If a cop reported corruption to the media, the media would swarm on it. But evidence and shit is needed. You need a case, otherwise you're just gonna get kicked off the force and have a bunch of cops that hate you.
Will Gotti
11-27-2006, 01:32 AM
How can a few "good" cops fight a system that is designed to destroy them inside and out? Who are they going to tattle to, the chief? The DA who is in cahoots with the chief?
You've been watching too much of "The Shield". You're all on some Vic Mackey-Aceveda shit.
white shadow
11-27-2006, 01:49 AM
You've been watching too much of "The Shield". You're all on some Vic Mackey-Aceveda shit.
Fight The Power!!!:rofl:
Hey I'm not the one mentioning how *most* cops are corrupt, especially since I've rarely been harassed by cops; I was merely setting up a pseudo-scenario to portray another possibility.
I guess even though I'm black I try to maintain a certain composure to never get in a scenario like those, and I never ever speed.:razzy:
This thread is becoming anti cop. It should be anti corrupt cop, let's remember thier are good cops out there.
Some on the other hand deserve to die painful deaths.
I dunno. Even good cops have the potential to become bad cops at any moment. Maybe the thread should be more of a "Anti lack of any required respinsibility for abouse of power by cops" thread
Mechanica
11-27-2006, 07:43 AM
Uggghhh, humans need to be wiped off the face of the planet. We obviously can't even fucking handle the power bestowed upon us. Will there ever be justice? I hate reading stuff like this, it's upsetting. Cops piss me off, too. Most of 'em, actually.
P@nToM
11-27-2006, 09:19 AM
Uggghhh, humans need to be wiped off the face of the planet.
Next time try actually contributing something useful to the topic. That's how these forum things work.
On topic: what do you think causes corrupt cops to begin with? Possibly being harrased by minorities when they were younger? could it be revenge that gets out of hand and involves innocent people? I'd like to hope it isn't.
RaishinX
11-27-2006, 09:25 AM
This pretty much reinforces the fact that Sean is low tier.
I feel bad for laughing at that. I almost made this thread myself but I was like "naaah, somebody got dat"
spudlyff8fan
11-27-2006, 02:45 PM
Next time try actually contributing something useful to the topic. That's how these forum things work.
On topic: what do you think causes corrupt cops to begin with? Possibly being harrased by minorities when they were younger? could it be revenge that gets out of hand and involves innocent people? I'd like to hope it isn't.The majority of the three cops who did the shooting were minorities (two black, one hispanic). And really, they weren't nice people who got shot (all four of em were ex-cons).
The only thing the cops did poorly was that they didn't kill all four of em. Seriously, 50+ shots and only ONE of them dies.
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