Fightclub or Pulp fiction?

[orochizoolander]

Keep in mind that in LI most teenage males favorite movie is either of the two anyways last night me n some friends were arguing about it and there popular movies so what the hell lets see what srk thinks.

I like fightclub just a lil bit better but we all know zoolander will always remain as the greatest piece of cinematic genius ever lol.

magnum ftw!

[DarkGiygas]

pulp fiction

[MrQuotes]

pulp fiction

[Fudd]

I think Pulp Fiction historically stands out more, but I personally like Fight Club better.

[SNAAAAKE]

pulp :rock:

[umthrfkr]

Pulp Fiction

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[jae hoon]

This is like choosing sex between Jessica Alba or sex with Rosie O Donnell. This shit isnt even close.

Pulp Fiction ftw

[Stanman]

I'd say Fight Club because I find that the story actually has something to say. That and I personally hate Quentin Tarantino.

[merdoc]

Pulp fiction > Fight Club

Reservoir > Fight Club

[Windlord0]

Pulp Fiction is the better movie, without question. It is perfection in so many ways.

I think I have watched fight club more often though, and the book beats the fuck out of both movies. Not that the movie was a bad interpretation, but there was a lot more.

[Bowling Pin]

Oldboy.

[The_Cheat]

Pulp Fiction has Samuel L. Jackson. Fight Club does not.

[MrQuotes]

Oldboy.

good fucking movie
great fucking ending

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Oldboy.

heh.

[Gasaraki]

Oldboy.

As in, a movie based on the manga? Damn I didn't even know it existed, I must find it

[eddymasta]

Gotta be Pulp Fiction

[Night]

Pulp Fiction.

Fight Club fanatics still end up working at jobs they hate and buying shit they don't need anyway.

[Stanman]

but pulp fiction fanatics still yell a lot, get randomly shot, take drugs, and get ass raped against their will on a daily basis.

[Kid Wonder]

-Hated Fight Club.

[Demon Dash]

Tarentino...

[R2J]

pulp fiction

[Magnetro]

Samuel L. Jackson

[Infested Jester]

Pulp Fiction no fucking question.

[angryliberal]

there is no doubt that pulp fiction is the better movie, but i don't know why these two are always compared to each other. there is nothing the same about them except for the audience that enjoys both of them. fincher and tarantino are not similar directors, nor are the storytelling methods similar in either film. i think its an unfair question for fight club's sake.

first off, some people just automatically say pulp fiction is one of the best films ever. i used to be one of these people, but then i saw better movies. secondly, the people who liked fight club are the same people who love pulp so it gets pigeon holed that way.

i think a better comparison for fight club is american psycho. both movies are based off previous works, and both follow the same style of storytelling. both also fall about on the same level of directing. that actually would be a more difficult choice for me, which movie was better.

pulp fiction is an iconic piece. there are some who will just simply say its the best movie ever. in fact, a lot of people will say its the best movie ever, but its not. its not as good as some people lift it up to be. i wouldn't even put it in the top ten movies ever made. its cool and it speaks to our generation, but the more you experience in movies, the more it seems hollywood. that being said, it is still one of my top ten favorite movies ever. i think the script is actually in the top ten original scripts by an american writer ever. its amazing and its leaps and bounds above films like fight club. it's merits are so above fight club. its like comparing final fantasy 7 to chrono trigger. while 7 was a great game, chrono trigger may be one of the greatest games ever. both appeal to the same audience, but in the end, its an unfair comparison.

[Shibuya]

i like both but i cant watch pulp fiction anymore.....unless its been a long time since i have seen it....fight club i could watch that whenever.

[Taito]

I just think Pulp Fiction was an important movie for its time. Fight Club was more entertaining and had more to say than Pulp Fiction imo.

[PozerWolf]

Pulp Fiction has Samuel L. Jackson. Fight Club does not.
Yeah, perty much the only reason why Pulp Fiction is well known.

[jae hoon]

Fight Club sucked

[Return of Shiki]

Pulp Fictions wins for 3 big reasons:

1) The Fight Club film was not as good as the novel

2) Fight Club being taken ultra seriously by a bunch of toolboxes. At least Pulp Fiction fanatics know it's just a fucking movie.

3) Samuel L. Jackson >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brad Pitt

[TheMaidenMasha]

Pulp Fiction

Just WAY more genius lines and characters and WAY more memorable scenes in pulp fiction than just about any movie ive ever watched.

[ShinAkumax]

There would not be a Fight Club without Reservous Dogs and Pulp Fiction.

but pulp fiction fanatics still yell a lot, get randomly shot, take drugs, and get ass raped against their will on a daily basis.

Fight Club was homo erotic.

[ViciousSLASH]

Shawshank Redemption.

[angryliberal]

There would not be a Fight Club without Reservous Dogs and Pulp Fiction.

i don't agree with this at all. first off, lets not give too much credit to res dogs. it was a compilation of scenes from a bunch of older film noir and gangster films. the story is almost the same as the killing by stanley kubrick. secondly, fight club would exist with or without those films. now it may have drawn the same audience as those films, but regardless the piece would exist. there were "cool" movies before tarantino, he just helped create the current culture of movie goers who hunger for this style of film.

now, given that, i still think pulp is a better movie than fight club, but i also think its an unfair comparison. you can't compare pulp fiction to other american films of its time and genre, it stands alone in that. imo, its better than res dogs from purely a film making pov.

now here's the bad, like ff7, there are sooooo many people on pulp fictions jock its not funny. i love the film and i think its great, but the pulp fanboys are soooo annoying...

[ShinAkumax]

Did anyone that wasn't a film "geek" watch Kubrick's "Killing". I'm sure there were lot's of people that were like Tarantion just like they were great story tellers before Shigeru Miyamoto.

What make Shigeru Miyamoto stand apart is that he took what was there and did it better than anyone else. Same with Tony Hawk, he didn't invent skate boards or the sport but he polished to a high enough level to make it viable for other people to do it.

Tarantino was tremendously influencial, if it wasn't for the above mentioned films there Fight Club might had been made in Poland by Andrzej Wajda but no one would have watched it.

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[Taito]

Tarantino was tremendously influencial, if it wasn't for the above mentioned films there Fight Club might had been made in Poland by Andrzej Wajda but no one would have watched it.

Being the film geek that he is, Tarantino would've watched it, and made a movie using most of the stuff found in that Polish movie nobody heard of. Then he'd be called genius by the legion of laymen that blissfully dryhump his movies.

[ShinAkumax]

Can I direct you to the bottom of this page?

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=122728&page=2

Shit man, you guys can stand back and judge Tarantino's old movies all you want. But I bet none of ya'll was like. " You know, Pulp Fiction reminds me a lot of Kubrick's early work " when you were in the theather.

That movie came out before the internet was a viable source of information. Back then shit was like whoa. For real.

[Superking]

Pulp Fiction, because I haven't seen Fight Club. I only saw the Leno spoof of it though.

[Will Gotti]

Fight Club sucked

What? Devin what was so bad about Fight Club? I can clearly see you prefer Pulp Fiction over it, but you think it sucked? I remember when you thought Spiderman sucked when we saw it right before I left Washington. I'm just curious.

[fishjie]

pulp

edit: johnd travolta's death scene was great

great soundtrack as well. he just knows how to pick great music.

[Taito]

Can I direct you to the bottom of this page?

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=122728&page=2

Shit man, you guys can stand back and judge Tarantino's old movies all you want. But I bet none of ya'll was like. " You know, Pulp Fiction reminds me a lot of Kubrick's early work " when you were in the theather.

That movie came out before the internet was a viable source of information. Back then shit was like whoa. For real.
I'm just saying that's his trade, to borrow what he's seen from past films he liked and add them to his own. He's admitted to it himself. Not a good or bad thing.. until some fan claims something from a QT film was original when it wasn't.

[Dem-Dem]

Ummmmm Tarintino fun to watch if you like watching scenes from different movies sliced together like a last mintue term paper. Films that make you think are not widely excepted by the mass of people because it takes to much effort in a world were everything is hand fed to them. i watched pulp fiction the original way and once just for fun put the stories in order and watchied. Nothing interesting going on it's just a story over two days that involve alot of people.

I'm sure that everyone here didn't like kill bill. i personally didn't like it for it's constent rehash of fight scenes from different movies.

I like the way the story is told in fight club. It's fun to watch edward norton act like someone is there kickin his own ass.

fight club gets my vote.

[arcticninja]

anyone who didn't like Fight Club is a communist.

[Stanman]

Ummmmm Tarintino fun to watch if you like watching scenes from different movies sliced together like a last mintue term paper. Films that make you think are not widely excepted by the mass of people because it takes to much effort in a world were everything is hand fed to them. i watched pulp fiction the original way and once just for fun put the stories in order and watchied. Nothing interesting going on it's just a story over two days that involve alot of people.

I'm sure that everyone here didn't like kill bill. i personally didn't like it for it's constent rehash of fight scenes from different movies.

I like the way the story is told in fight club. It's fun to watch edward norton act like someone is there kickin his own ass.

fight club gets my vote.

Wow, there are people on SRK that actually knows the bullshit behind Tarantino. I'll admit that I like Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction, but I don't like his style of just taking other people's stories. People have to consider that he didn't even write pulp fiction by himself but he got nearly all the credit for it.

Knowing full well that he didn't write his stories, you have his directing skills which I don't find particularly amazing. Most people look at his dialogue as the driving force of his movies, which is FUN at times. But, I want to fucking shoot myself at particular scenes of dialogue that say absolutely nothing, but take as long as they need to say it. All the while, people watching the movie are fucking jacking off to it.

Again, I like his movies, but they are not landmark cinema.

[Wolfkiller]

Fight Club. Brad Pitt > everyone, including Sammy "I got punked in Star Wars" Jackson.

[Dem-Dem]

the scene in the garage of fight club with brad pitt in the leather pants and fur collard coat show the outlandish progression of the tyler durden character. Much like Sam jacksons character in pulp fiction the difference is that tyler's progression was subtle while vergil's was more vocolized and had to be reconciled as quickly as possible.

fight club kicks pulps ass anyday. who said fight club had no memorible moments what about the flash back scene's when dude was all by himself thinking he was talkin or fightin tyler durden. funny as hell.

[Return of Shiki]

I'll admit Tarantino is not a creative genius.

He's a different kind of genius...he has a knack for finding the best things in other movies.
He can't really create his own original story but he can create great patchworks due to his supremely good taste, and has the skill to micro-manage and insert excellent (albeit contrived) dialogue into his scene.

It's like the difference between a genius who invents the Lego, and a genius who creates a masterpiece from the Legos.

[av2k]

i prefer fight club over pulp fiction but i love both movies

[angryliberal]

look at it this way...both have awesome dialog, pulp has a great way of telling the story, but fight club has a better story. the world of cinema was more impacted by tarantino's work, but i don't think that is apt to this discussion. overall, i think its like trying to decide which one is the better comedy - dr strangelove, spinal tap or the big lebowski. all sides can be very well argued based on your perception of comedy...

[orochizoolander]

LOL i expected this cuz overall in the u.s. at least pulp is alot more popular and well known but no1 has the right to definitively say ehich was better it is simply opinion and yes angryliberal i realize theyr completly different movies but as u said the sam e exact auidence hails them as great and relevant to our generation anyways to make it simple i think fightclub is the better movie cuz it was more appealing and enjoyable to watch then pulp and pulp is not the kind of movie u can watch several times over a short period of time fightclud to me at least is.

BTW i'm awatre finchers flight of fancy style is in stark contrast to tarantinos gritty realistic style with simple but clever dialogue but fincher managed to pull off story about something so unrealistic and show it in niether a negative or positive light but more in the way of educating the auidence n making them give a shit about the message of the movie while delivering a bevy of corny but clever one liners along the way.

[jae hoon]

What? Devin what was so bad about Fight Club? I can clearly see you prefer Pulp Fiction over it, but you think it sucked? I remember when you thought Spiderman sucked when we saw it right before I left Washington. I'm just curious.

Actually after watching Spider Man acouple times I started to like it more. It is a decent movie but not great.

I didnt like Fight Club at all, I found the plot for whatever reason to be boring and not well thought out. I watched Fight Club literally like 7 times to try to figure out that it I was missing and everytime the movie just got dumber and dumber. Fight Club just seemed like a movie that was thrown together with a bunch of guys going well there is fighting and a club people will like it, plot need not apply. But then again I thought Traffic and Rounders were really good movies.

[Biolink]

I like Fight Club.A movie that isn't spoon-fed to you.I watched it about 3 times before I started really understanding it.

[Dasrik]

Fight Club. I did not like Pulp Fiction.

[orochizoolander]

Thank u at least some1 here appreciates fight club which took me 2 viewings to fully understand and appreciate it's greatness.

Edit: Dasrik u got balls LOL what didn't u like about it?

[Dasrik]

Edit: Dasrik u got balls LOL what didn't u like about it?
The movie was too true to its title. It was just a bunch of stuff that happened.

[Gasp]

wait we're talking about teenage boys here
shouldn't it be

Resevoir Dogs or A Clockwork Orange?

[Jaldaboath]

I love Pulp, but Fight Club was too influential on my life.

Long live Tyler Durden! :rock:

[angryliberal]

wait we're talking about teenage boys here
shouldn't it be

Resevoir Dogs or A Clockwork Orange?

lol - how is that even a question?

[maxx]

Fight Club was homo erotic.

how do u even say that..did u forget a rape scene in pulp fiction.

[Satomiblood]

The Way of the Gun is where it's at.

[P. Gorath]

Thank u at least some1 here appreciates fight club which took me 2 viewings to fully understand and appreciate it's greatness.

Dude, Bambi probably took you two viewings to fully understand

[Difoj]

I liked Pulp Fiction better

[Black Deniro]

You mother fuckers are slow. I understood Fight club on the first watch.
I also voted for Pulp Fiction.

[Dasrik]

What's not to get about Fight Club? I understood it right off...

Hell, I understood Advent Children right off, and nobody gets that fucking movie...

[thurst]

can someone please say what about fight club was "revealed" to them that they didn't get the first time?

oh and i just watched oldboy, definitely better than both of these movies, c/s bpin.

[orochizoolander]

The first time i saw fightclub was 4 yrs ago when i was 14 and i took the movie for what i thought it was at the time...a run of the mill anti-consumerist flick and i didn't get the male bonding therapy thing or the penguin SLIDE shit or how he fucking survived that gunshot. The second time i saw it noticed alot of clever little nuances i missed the first time and i realized the movie earnestly actually attempted to make u think about how material possesions take up more time in ur life then they should even if it was just for a second and what i loved most about the movie was that it got that message across without bringing it up annoyingly all the time but thats just my opinion different strokes for different folks i guess.

Edit: i gotta check out this oldboy everyones talking about.

[quiche]

Both Movies have their own strengths (and shitinesses)

AWESOMENESS OF CAST:
Pulp Fiction: Samuel L. Jackson, Bruce Willis, Harvey Keitel
Fight Club: Edward Norton, Brad Pitt
Advantage: Pulp Fiction

ANNOYING FEMALE:
Pulp Fiction: Uma Thurman, that foreign bitch with Bruce Willis
Fight Club: Helena Bonham Carter
Advantage: Tie

BEST VIOLENCE:
Pulp Fiction: "AND YOU WILL KNOW I AM THE LORD WHEN I LAY MY VENGEANCE UPON YOU!", samurai sword
Fight Club: "YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE I'VE BEEN, LOU!!!", "I felt like destroying something beatiful"
Advantage: Tie

CELEBRITY GUEST STAR:
Pulp Fiction: Quentin Tarantino - "They look like a couple of dorks!"
Fight Club: Meat Loaf - "Bob has bitch tits."
Advantage: Fight Club

FUNNIEST MOMENT:
Pulp Fiction: "I kept this uncomfortable hunk of metal up my ass for two years."
Fight Club: Brad Pitt wearing a rubber glove as Helene Bonham Carter falls off the bed.
Advantage: Tie

All in all it's pretty close for me, but I have to give Fight Club the slight nod for the awesome sex scene with tits flying everywhere, and for that airline emergency procedure card with the people screaming as they burn to death that always makes me smile.

...seriously.

[Will Gotti]

Actually after watching Spider Man acouple times I started to like it more. It is a decent movie but not great.

I didnt like Fight Club at all, I found the plot for whatever reason to be boring and not well thought out. I watched Fight Club literally like 7 times to try to figure out that it I was missing and everytime the movie just got dumber and dumber. Fight Club just seemed like a movie that was thrown together with a bunch of guys going well there is fighting and a club people will like it, plot need not apply. But then again I thought Traffic and Rounders were really good movies.

Spiderman is likeable and does it's job, that's what I was saying at the theater.

As for Fight Club being boring and not well thought out, I honestly just think you prolly didn't fully understand what was going on and then when it got to the end you still didn't. I mean, Fight Club is obviously a psychological movie, but it's also a dialogue driven movie too. It's a movie where you really gotta listen and things start to make sense.

[Dem-Dem]

As for Fight Club being boring and not well thought out, I honestly just think you prolly didn't fully understand what was going on and then when it got to the end you still didn't. I mean, Fight Club is obviously a psychological movie, but it's also a dialogue driven movie too. It's a movie where you really gotta listen and things start to make sense.

Damn Will Gotti we agree!

[avjgtfusion]

the typical fight club fan boy: "Tyler Durden is the sex. Teh movie is so deep, its about like the psychological things that happenn between them." Admit it, you just like the movie because of the fights.

I like both. I've read the book by Chuck P. and it's much better. The movie was a bit of cop out to appeal to a wider audience in my opinion.

I chose Pulp fiction.

[specs]

Pulp Fiction by FAR.

... Fight Club was kinda meh. Yah, I said it. :hcb: :lp:

[P. Gorath]

i think the most important point to be had from this thread is that there are more movies out there than Fight Club and Pulp Fiction

[Jaldaboath]

the typical fight club fan boy: "Tyler Durden is the sex. Teh movie is so deep, its about like the psychological things that happenn between them." Admit it, you just like the movie because of the fights.There are movies with better fights so this doesn't hold.

[arcticninja]

i think the most important point to be had from this thread is that there are more movies out there than Fight Club and Pulp Fiction


I'm pretty sure that those are the only movies ever made.

[Hoonyo]

i enjoy edward norton. loved him in 25th hour. vote for fight club. BECAUSE I LIKE IT BETTER.

[Jaldaboath]

I'm pretty sure that those are the only movies ever made.

I saw another with some penguins, but it wasn't very good.

[angryliberal]

i think the most important point to be had from this thread is that there are more movies out there than Fight Club and Pulp Fiction

yeah, i tried venturing out and i saw this "seven samurai" film. man it sucked ass. they totally ripped off that idea from three amigos...

[Mycah Leonhart]

Pulp Fiction, I've seen actual scholars break this down - it's gotten awards out the ass.

Fight Club.......a lot of angry White Boys love this flick.

Personaly, I say Pulp Fiction - the stories were broader.

[quiche]

Oh also, Death Race 2000.

...seriously.

...no, SERIOUSLY.

[Stanman]

yeah, i tried venturing out and i saw this "seven samurai" film. man it sucked ass. they totally ripped off that idea from three amigos...

I like Seven Samurai better. I guess it is just opinion.

[Korigama]

Pulp Fiction, hated Fight Club.

[Satomiblood]

I voted Pulp Fiction, but I don't consider it a pre-requisite to life. The movie I try to push on people is The Way of the Gun. It's well casted, full of interesting characters and rich dialogue, it's well filmed (pay attention to the color schemes), and it features some classic gunplay. And James Caan is such a badass.

[Galactic]

I'd say Pulp Fiction, but I did like Fight Club. LOVED the book. And yeah, I thought Oldboy was a cooler movie than both of them. The violence was more visceral, and the story was.... "grittier" I guess. The guy that plays Oldboy reminds me of Charles Bronson. And yes, that's a good thing, in this case.


My love for Oldboy aside, the reason I like Pulp Fiction over Fight Club is the dialogue and the actors.

It's not just the (borrowed) story, it's the EXECUTION. I've been saying for a LONG time that Tarantino is the Puff Daddy of filmmakers. He borrows from a lot of people but in the end makes it his own. A lot of people (including myself) hate Diddy's music but a lot of people like it, and it's undeniable that production and EXECUTION is top notch.

EVERY actor in this movie absolutely NAILS IT.

Samuel L Jackson, in all his angry black man glory, John Travolta in his comeback role as super slick/sleazy contract killer, Bruce Willis in his intense portrayal of a man on the run, even the secondary characters, Keitel, Rhames, and the absolute AWESOMENESS that is Christopher Walken were all amazing.

And yes of course you can just chalk that up to the actors just being great actors, but with bad direction, good actors drown in bad movies.

Pulp Fiction is definately one of my top 20 favorite movies, while Fight club could make my top 100.

^_-;

[angryliberal]

I like Seven Samurai better. I guess it is just opinion.

it was sarcasm...seven samurai is one of my favorite movies ever, and a movie that destroys the two being discussed here...

[Return of Shiki]

snip

Please find a better analogy than "Puff Daddy" and rap music.
But to your main point, I agree.

I also agree with whoever said that the book is much better than the movie.
The movie really did cop out...most obviously in the COMPLETELY CHANGED AND RETARDED ENDING. But mostly in the fact that there were points in the film OBVIOUSLY put in to show off Brad Pitt (rather than Tyler Durden) to the audience.
I wonder if the movie would have HALF the cult-hit status it does if they had gotten anyone other than Brad Pitt to play Tyler Durden.
Oh yeah, and Helena Botham Carter was an annoying shit in the movie, too. The Marla in the novel wasn't nearly as irritating, but then again she wasn't as interesting as the film version of her. I guess that's just a part of the film business. The stock "annoying, sex-craved, neo-feminist, free-spirit woman" character has to always be included in any Hollywood film like this.

[WasFemto]

Six String Samurai

kthnxdie

[ShinAkumax]

I feel Seven Samurai to be a cop out answer to what a good movie is.

[angryliberal]

I feel Seven Samurai to be a cop out answer to what a good movie is.

huh?

[kindaichi]

Batman Begins

[ShinAkumax]

huh?

I'm stoned.:smokin: :smokin: :looney:

[Dasrik]

The movie really did cop out...most obviously in the COMPLETELY CHANGED AND RETARDED ENDING.
The author actually likes the ending in the movie better than the one he wrote.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0137523/trivia

[Stanman]

it was sarcasm...seven samurai is one of my favorite movies ever, and a movie that destroys the two being discussed here...

I know, if you've seen both movies then I already know the answer. Though, I have seen people sleep through Seven Samurai.


BTW, Oldboy does own. As well as every other movie the guy has made.

[angryliberal]

not to get ot, but seven samurai, at no point, made me sleepy. i got through with the film and was shocked at ow long i had sat there. the time literally flew by. the shortest 3+ hour film i ever saw...

[Wellman]

Both, but Fight Club had a more direct philosphy and pretty fucking hilarious as well as kind of deep. I don't see how you could really hate the flim, it was good as fuck.

But Pulp Fiction actual revitalized not only John Travolta, Sam Jackson but the cinematic stylized crime genre.

[Will Gotti]

Please find a better analogy than "Puff Daddy" and rap music.
But to your main point, I agree.


That was actually a great analogy. You may not like rap or diddy, who cares, but THAT analogy was on point and surpassed it.

[wizdizzle]

I think I'll go home and watch Pulp Fiction for the billionth time. Favorite movie ever.

[Return of Shiki]

That was actually a great analogy. You may not like rap or diddy, who cares, but THAT analogy was on point and surpassed it.

No, it wasn't.
Rap doesn't matter, much like "P. Diddy".

[wizdizzle]

not to get ot, but seven samurai, at no point, made me sleepy. i got through with the film and was shocked at ow long i had sat there. the time literally flew by. the shortest 3+ hour film i ever saw...

Seven Samurai is a great flick, but IMO its far from Kurosawa's best. Yojimbo is my fave, Sanjuro was great too, and Ikiru. So many great Kurosawa movies.

[Elle]

Although Pulp Fiction stands out more, and I'd even go so far to say that it's a better movie. However Fightclub is still my movie of choice. I don't see the relationship between these movies or why they're compared so often.

[Will Gotti]

No, it wasn't.
Rap doesn't matter, much like "P. Diddy".

:rofl: It could have been a rock, country, ska reference who cares, it was a good analogy. You sound like you took that kinda personal that I said "who cares" after saying you may not like rap. You pretty much contradicted yourself by taking offense to that comment then saying "Rap doesn't matter, much like P. Diddy." But I digress...

[angryliberal]

Seven Samurai is a great flick, but IMO its far from Kurosawa's best. Yojimbo is my fave, Sanjuro was great too, and Ikiru. So many great Kurosawa movies.

ikiru is so powerful...don't forget rashomon and ran...

[Galactic]

Whoa, we talking about Kurosawa now? ZOMG Fincher and Tarantino do not deserve to be discussed in the same thread as Kurosawa!!!!! [/elite jackass] When I think of all the things nearly every modern filmmaker has stolen from something or another Kurosawa did decades ago...

My favorite Kurosawa flick has to be the first one I saw of his, which was Rashomon. I was like 16 I think, and to this day it's one of my fave movies. Then I saw 7 Samurai, Kagemusha, Dodesukaden, Throne of Blood, Yojimbo, Ikiru, and Ran in that order. I think that technically, Ran was probably the best film out of that list, (I mean, he himself thought so) but Rashomon still holds the title for my fave Kurosawa film.

^_-;