Starting my own T-shirt business!

[Mickey D']

So rescently I've been incredibly inspired to begin my own Graphic T'shirt business. I have some pretty good ideas for designs, however I'm incredibly shitty at drawing. However I have 2 friends of mine that say that they would be incredibly interested in doing it with me....they're both pretty talented at drawing.

So anyways, I figured that the T'shirts would feature a gamer'ish/abstract kind of feel. Nothing like this stupid shirt that my friend thought would sell:

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/4519/lethargy9zx.jpg

Instead, I would have some actually APPEALING graphic ideas mainly having to do with gaming. For instance, I had an idea a really long time ago, about trying to show the "Evolution" of Nintendo, all wrapped up in a shirt. But to my surprise, I find the fucking shirt already made! It's not quite the way that I myself would do it, however even if I had TRIED to make the shirt with my own idea, I would have been the laughing stock of the "Gamer T'shirt Business"....here's the shirt that he printed out....boy was I pissed to see someone design the shirt before me:

http://www.splitreason.com/Product_Images/5f1d4768dd31.jpg

My whole mission was planned out into 3 stages:

- Buy a variety of different colored shirts in bulk
- Find a proffesional printing company to put on the graphics
- Set up a website and promote my ass off so that people could buy if they were interested

So far the hard part is finding a suitable printing company. Most companies only have limited choices like "Print a WHITE font, on a black shirt!!!" I haven't found that many companies that would be able to put many colors on to a shirt without completly ripping me off (10 dollars charge to put maybe 10 colors onto a shirt). My problem is that I'll be using my own graphics...they won't always be just 3 - 4 colors...maybe I'll end up using 10 different colors...anyways, if anyone knows about a good printing company please tell me about it.

Has anyone here actually tried making their own business? What was it like? How did you start? Give me suggestions please, I really want to do as much research as I can before going into this head first.

[AmbiguousCrosup]

I tried, got shut down by copyright law. Read up on what you can and can't do before you start.

[Rakukojin]

Have you thought about opening up a shop at CafePress.com and seeing if it works out? It's a lot less risky than starting a real business from scratch.

[Jaldaboath]

My problem is that I'll be using my own graphics...they won't always be just 3 - 4 colors...maybe I'll end up using 10 different colors...anyways, if anyone knows about a good printing company please tell me about it.
No, you'll never need more than 3 colors (CYM, K is already on the shirt[I'm assuming you'll be using black shirts]) unless you have no idea of what you're doing and the printers rip you off. I suggest you read a bit on halftones and duotones, and use that knowledge to plan out your designs so you can get the same effect with a smaller price.

[Mickey D']

I tried, got shut down by copyright law. Read up on what you can and can't do before you start.

Woah seriously? What was it that you were trying to do? If you'd rather not say, it's cool. Thanks a lot for shining that into my eyes. My friednd and I were actually talking about that last night. We saw this shirt:

http://www.goapeshirts.com/products/006/

We were both wondering...."Can't these people get in trouble for copy right infringment?" We both thought about it, and thought of little "loop holes" to get through the system....such as making a slight modification to the graphics.

Thanks a lot though for the info...guess I'm gonna have to read up on my Copyright laws...

Have you thought about opening up a shop at CafePress.com and seeing if it works out? It's a lot less risky than starting a real business from scratch.

I've thought about it...however something really draws me away from these sites. I've also found another site quite like this ONLY dealing with T'shirts. Something like "printing mojo" or something like that. The deal was that you give them the design, they print the shirt, they store the shirt in a warehouse, they set you up an online store, and they also ship it out for you (payment would be a hassle IMO)...I dunno man, it just seems kinda shady to me.


No, you'll never need more than 3 colors (CYM, K is already on the shirt[I'm assuming you'll be using black shirts]) unless you have no idea of what you're doing and the printers rip you off. I suggest you read a bit on halftones and duotones, and use that knowledge to plan out your designs so you can get the same effect with a smaller price.

Hmmm...I'm kinda clueless as to what your saying. What is CYM, and K? As far as shirt colors, I would actually be using a lot more than Black shirts. I'm thinking that I'll design the graphic first, draw it out....and look at which graphic would look best on each colored t'shirt. Btw, what are halftones and duotones? I guess I'll look all that up...

[Mycah Leonhart]

Hmmm...I'm kinda clueless as to what your saying. What is CYM, and K? As far as shirt colors, I would actually be using a lot more than Black shirts. I'm thinking that I'll design the graphic first, draw it out....and look at which graphic would look best on each colored t'shirt. Btw, what are halftones and duotones? I guess I'll look all that up...

C = Cyan
Y = Yellow
M = Magenta
K = Key aka Black

CYM = the 3 basics, you can make just about ANY color using those 3 in mixes.

Check out wikipedia on it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMYK_color_model

Do some homework dude - it goes a looooooooooooong way

Personaly look into RBG.

[Mickey D']

C = Cyan
Y = Yellow
M = Magenta
K = Key aka Black

CYM = the 3 basics, you can make just about ANY color using those 3 in mixes.

Check out wikipedia on it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMYK_color_model

Do some homework dude - it goes a looooooooooooong way

Personaly look into RBG.

Thank you very much for clearing that up. I just hit a nice t'shirt forum to do some good research. And your right, I'm gonna be doing TONS of research before actually going into the business. Thanks a lot

[Jaldaboath]

Hmmm...I'm kinda clueless as to what your saying. What is CYM, and K? As far as shirt colors, I would actually be using a lot more than Black shirts. I'm thinking that I'll design the graphic first, draw it out....and look at which graphic would look best on each colored t'shirt. Btw, what are halftones and duotones? I guess I'll look all that up...
CYMK [wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CYMK)] - Mycah is correct, and the info on the wiki is accurate, I used it for some research papers for school.

Halftone [wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halftone)] - Basically, when you print, you print little dots, which give the illusion of different colors and tones. This is how printers work, if you have an inkjet and a magnifier glass nearby you can see it yourself.

Duotone is not very well explained on wiki, but basically is combining halftones of two different colors, for example: blue and black. What this does, is give you a big range of options for your prints without having to invest in several inks, so it's cheaper. I think an example could be my avatar, even if you see different reds, it's only one and different saturation levels.

If you use Corel Draw or Photoshop for your designs you can plan them from the beginning by choosing one color and making changes to the saturation levels or mixing it with different ones, it's easier to clean up when you are putting the idea on your monitor than when you're checking out the prints.

Check out the links, if you have more questions then maybe we can help. :tup:

[Mickey D']

Thanks a lot for you help Jaldaboath. I'm starting to understand much more than I already did. This is incredibly helpful to know before actually drawing out the graphic. It helps me understand exactly how many colors i'm using. However, isn't it all stil dependent on the printing company?

Thank you both for the explanation again

[final_cut]

dude, you don't need a professional print company! just make your own silkscreens. Search for DIY Silkscreening, its easy to learn how to do. sell that shit on the DL. You'd be surprised how many arty/high fashion shops will buy 'arty' (AKAbootleg) shirt designs.Going through a professional design company will take all of your money. Just make some friends that are good at adobe illustrator, you'll be set. Silkscreening is easy.

[Jaldaboath]

^ This sounds good, now I want to check this out...

Thanks a lot for you help Jaldaboath. I'm starting to understand much more than I already did. This is incredibly helpful to know before actually drawing out the graphic. It helps me understand exactly how many colors i'm using. However, isn't it all stil dependent on the printing company?

Thank you both for the explanation again

You're welcolme, glad to help. It's not that much about the company, but rather, the equipment they have. Most of the printers operate on the CMYK pigment color code, some do on RGB, which are "light" colors and results are not that accurate, and there are some which actually mix inks, but they are unreliable and expensive, so your chances of running into one of those are pretty low. And even if they use Offset printing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offset_printing) to do it, the principles are the same.

What you could try to do is visit some of the printers and check what kind of printers do they have and use google to check them out. Maybe if you could get the name of one of the programs they use to print you could download it and run some tests yourself.

What's important is that you know your shit, else they will try to rip you off, whoever told you the 10 inks thing is most likely trying to do that.

[shatterstar]

*takes notes*

[Mickey D']

dude, you don't need a professional print company! just make your own silkscreens. Search for DIY Silkscreening, its easy to learn how to do. sell that shit on the DL. You'd be surprised how many arty/high fashion shops will buy 'arty' (AKAbootleg) shirt designs.Going through a professional design company will take all of your money. Just make some friends that are good at adobe illustrator, you'll be set. Silkscreening is easy.

Hmm, this is an interesting idea. I'll definitely need to do some research on it. Yo crossup, if you read this, please get back to me man. I'm really interested in copyright laws and what my rights are as far as the graphics are concerned.

I just rescently found a printing company locally (about a 3 hour drive from here), they said that they would be interested in doing business with me. However when I told them that I could supply my own t'shirts, they said that it would be an extra 15% charge. Which IMO is bull shit, because normally they're option is "Buy our T'shirts, ship us YOUR design, and we;ll put it on for this much"

I'm definitely gonna have to do more research on printing. It seems to me that it's going to be the biggest hurdle. Not just that, but then I have to start creating the damn website. Website shouldn't be to hard, however I'm primarily "concerned" about payment, security, and UPS shipping order Numbers and all.

Btw, I know i asked before, but i just wanted to ask again....anyone try this kind of excursion before? Or something like it?

[sainthuey]

Well, you can start by posting some of your designs and I/we will tell you from a sort of equal standpoint on if your shirts are good or not.

If you make shit I'm going to say it is, but if it looks a nice design then it might be worth it to makea little change.

The only way to make it into a "buisness" would be to make some seriously nice designs using more then 1 color, produce a good number and resell, then you might make the kind of money you can live off.

I'm really into clothing/sneakers so I keep a close eye on shit that's hot, I have a few ideas if you want I can pm you a idea or 2.

Cheers

[Mickey D']

Sainthuey you have been Pm'ed

Oh btw thank you for the silkscreening. It is a VERY clever idea. I actually found a very nice tutorial on youtube about it. Unfortunately, for big bulks of shirts, I couldn't see my self doing this all the time....especially since it's said to take up to 24 hours per shirt....

Here's the link:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-hSxPdoeHrU

[stealthcat]

Good luck with that, the studio that my brother works at just received notification that they will be out of business Jan 1. This is a hard industry.

[laugh]

So I'm not the only one who wants to start a t shirt business, but I'd be very careful so you get everything right.

For example, you're gonna make tshirts with gaming references and stuff, and last time I went to JCPenny's they had all kinds of gaming related tshirts and other semi-amusing humor shirts at dirt cheap prices and no one was buying them. So having really good color combinations and color choices combined with really good designs that not just gamers but anybody can relate to and be actually funny is the key imo.

I actually like bustedtees.com tshirts. They have good color selection and good designs and they're sellin pretty well. I like their website design and their photos also. The grey shirts don't look the same on an image file as it does in real life and most of those shirts look better in real photos.

$0.02

[Mickey D']

Good luck with that, the studio that my brother works at just received notification that they will be out of business Jan 1. This is a hard industry.

Wow damn, sorry to hear that man. I agree with you, it seems like a tough business, however hopefully with good research and all, I can get through it.

So I'm not the only one who wants to start a t shirt business, but I'd be very careful so you get everything right.

For example, you're gonna make tshirts with gaming references and stuff, and last time I went to JCPenny's they had all kinds of gaming related tshirts and other semi-amusing humor shirts at dirt cheap prices and no one was buying them. So having really good color combinations and color choices combined with really good designs that not just gamers but anybody can relate to and be actually funny is the key imo.

I actually like bustedtees.com tshirts. They have good color selection and good designs and they're sellin pretty well. I like their website design and their photos also. The grey shirts don't look the same on an image file as it does in real life and most of those shirts look better in real photos.

$0.02

Bustedtees is a good site. I had more of an invision to make my shirts a little more classier than a lot of the other gamer shirts right now....Things that can be worn and actually look pretty fresh (Unlike my friends idea posted in my first post....god what a fucking loser).

I should also say, that I'm not just making gamer shirts...I also have intentions of making lots of other abstract art shirts, and also shirts that reach out to people. For instance I had a great idea for a "Punk/gothic" kind of person....my design has a very gothic guy....Trench coat, steel toed boots, big mohawk all tha good stuff....however the catch was that he would be walking an old lady across a crosswalk. I thought it would be pretty catchy.....

[sainthuey]

sent you a pm back.

Peace

[Mickey D']

I stumbled upon this website:

http://stylinonline.stores.yahoo.net/

I'm kinda confused, cuz AmbigiousCrossup said that he got shot down because of Copy right laws...however there are web sites like this that promote the use of old shows, cartoons, or movies, or whatever....

Isn't this going against copy right laws?

[R2J]

i thought about it too. it's a great idea. but with the copyright stuff, it's
not such a legit deal. but i like that blue shirt you got with the nintendo controller.
It's so much better making your own shirts, than buy one in the mall that says,

"Mow your own lawn" hahah

stencil art for shirts were the most requested from shirts i sold.
but if you sell your stuff on ebay, i'm pretty sure, they wouldn't care.
you could find over 100 + people doing it. just make your designs a unique,
and you're good to go. The gamer thing isn't really in nomore.
Just do research and find out what's in.

[mr. newbie]

http://www.hypebeast.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=48

http://www.hypebeast.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13767

http://www.hypebeast.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8654

http://www.hypebeast.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13988

i'd recommend posting some designs on hypebeast. get some feedback.

[Rioting Soul]

Would you be vulnerable to copyright laws if you obscured the design a bit? For example I always thought that taking a sprite(or cropping out a 3D model from a screenshot) of a game character doing a certain move or pose and making the entire figure one solid color without detail would be legal and still fashionable, even more so if you did it in an inkblot style("What does this one look like?" "It's a Tiger Uppercut!"). If you're marketing this toward gamers then they'd definetly recognize the design. Just make sure they can be bought online. I'd buy one or ten right now.

[Mycah Leonhart]

Me and a friend here in Houston had an idea for using Asian Kung Fu Generation album/single covers on t-shirts, copyright law scared us out of it and plus 90% of those shirts only a chick would wear.

http://www.akfgfan.com/pictures/akfgcdcover17.jpg

Me personaly, I think that shit's hot - and the concept is great but copyright, copyright, copyright.

[Master Chibi]

That is a pretty awesome design / logo / ASIAN Mycah.

:O

[Mickey D']

i thought about it too. it's a great idea. but with the copyright stuff, it's
not such a legit deal. but i like that blue shirt you got with the nintendo controller.
It's so much better making your own shirts, than buy one in the mall that says,

"Mow your own lawn" hahah

stencil art for shirts were the most requested from shirts i sold.
but if you sell your stuff on ebay, i'm pretty sure, they wouldn't care.
you could find over 100 + people doing it. just make your designs a unique,
and you're good to go. The gamer thing isn't really in nomore.
Just do research and find out what's in.

Yeah, I didn't make that blue shirt...however I had that idea wayyyy long ago when I was first hearing about the Wii Controller. Stencil arts on shirts are looking pretty hot right now, i definitely agree. Like I said, I'm not trying to do the FULL ON Gamer type deal. I'm trying to make it classy also so that people would say to themselves "That shits hot." A shirt thats practical, and doesn't make them look "nerdy" while wearing it. But I see what your talking about.

http://www.hypebeast.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=48

http://www.hypebeast.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13767

http://www.hypebeast.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8654

http://www.hypebeast.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13988

i'd recommend posting some designs on hypebeast. get some feedback.

Wow thanks a lot for the links man, this helps out quite a bit.

Would you be vulnerable to copyright laws if you obscured the design a bit? For example I always thought that taking a sprite(or cropping out a 3D model from a screenshot) of a game character doing a certain move or pose and making the entire figure one solid color without detail would be legal and still fashionable, even more so if you did it in an inkblot style("What does this one look like?" "It's a Tiger Uppercut!"). If you're marketing this toward gamers then they'd definetly recognize the design. Just make sure they can be bought online. I'd buy one or ten right now.

Yeah I was definitely wondering if i just slightly modified the graphic....would that be copy right infringment? I'm not to sure, I definitely gotta do some research on it.

Me and a friend here in Houston had an idea for using Asian Kung Fu Generation album/single covers on t-shirts, copyright law scared us out of it and plus 90% of those shirts only a chick would wear.

http://www.akfgfan.com/pictures/akfgcdcover17.jpg

Me personaly, I think that shit's hot - and the concept is great but copyright, copyright, copyright.

Ahh, I know what you mean now. It is a pretty good idea. Not sure how you could find a loop hole through that one.....thanks for explaining.

So far I'm just e'mailing companies if they want to do business with me...possibly even cut me a % off if I'll stay loayl with them....stuff like that. Well, time for work, thanks for all the help guys

[wizdizzle]

My buddy has his own clothing business. Check him out, maybe give you some ideas. http://www.black-marmalade.com

[final_cut]

well, for a long time I helped a friend of mine run a company called test skateboards. we did all of the graphics for the shirts and the skateboard decks we made.

Basically, what we used for the shirts is a rotating rack for the screens, a dryer (kinda like a conveyor pizza oven, but a blow dryer works fine), the screens themselves, and the paint for the graphic. we only did 2 colors though, but drying the shirts and getting them ready for the second color doesn't take that long. The equipment we had came from an old art class so it was pretty cheap.
The with the screens, you can just buy a special paper to print one layer of your image in b&w, then you burn that into your screen. then you do it again for each other layer/color. if you read up on it you can see what I mean, that special printer paper used to be cheap, at least when I did it. I wouldn't recommend doing more than 3 colors though.


Lots of commercial places like to sell shirts along with screenprinting, so it will be hard to get around that. a fee for using your own shirts is not uncommon. We just went around it and did it ourselves, because we bought american apparel shirts and didn't want some sweatshop shirts that the aloof wouldn't buy.

we also charged 30 bucks for shirts, and they sold, so it kind of paid off.

[Mickey D']

My buddy has his own clothing business. Check him out, maybe give you some ideas. http://www.black-marmalade.com

That shit he has is pretty fresh. I'm not a big fan of words on shirts, however i checked out some of his art, and the dude is sick with it.

well, for a long time I helped a friend of mine run a company called test skateboards. we did all of the graphics for the shirts and the skateboard decks we made.

Basically, what we used for the shirts is a rotating rack for the screens, a dryer (kinda like a conveyor pizza oven, but a blow dryer works fine), the screens themselves, and the paint for the graphic. we only did 2 colors though, but drying the shirts and getting them ready for the second color doesn't take that long. The equipment we had came from an old art class so it was pretty cheap.
The with the screens, you can just buy a special paper to print one layer of your image in b&w, then you burn that into your screen. then you do it again for each other layer/color. if you read up on it you can see what I mean, that special printer paper used to be cheap, at least when I did it. I wouldn't recommend doing more than 3 colors though.


Lots of commercial places like to sell shirts along with screenprinting, so it will be hard to get around that. a fee for using your own shirts is not uncommon. We just went around it and did it ourselves, because we bought american apparel shirts and didn't want some sweatshop shirts that the aloof wouldn't buy.

we also charged 30 bucks for shirts, and they sold, so it kind of paid off.

Thanks a lot for the explanation man, I appreciate it. I have a good friend that runs a skate shop and has his own clothing business right now. He says it's going "okay." I don't think he market's himself very well. I really think that getting a website up is a great way to market.

Screen printing/silk screening sounds like a really good idea. However the fact remains that I'll be buying and selling hundreds of shirts...I'm not going to be able to have the time to do all the shirts in one go...

Unfortunately, I think that finding a screen printer is my one and only option if i want to get my graphics put on in bulk. I need to work on the designs now.....thanks for the feed back

[Mickey D']

I Emailed a site about copy righting....as I thought that he had been breaking the copy right laws....here's what he said:

"Hey Mike,

I don’t have that problem. I purchase for resale shirts that have been officially licensed by the proper license holders of said Licenses. I choose to only sell officially licensed merchandise so that hasn’t been an issue.

I hope that explains it. "

I'm still kinda confused what he means....can someone make sense out of this....he's saying that he only uses items that are officialy licensed? I'm so confused.

[sainthuey]

Just make sure you show a good number of people your design first, that way you don't mass produce trash heh.

btw make sure you put a watermark over your image when posting on the net or some kind of tag that you don't get swagger jacked on your design.

Peace

[FistsofFury]

Can I work for you? You can pay me in cigarettes. I have a few ideas, but I'd still just like to help you if I could.

Plzz

:lovin:

[Javid]

Now that we're here in this thread, does anybody know some good t-shirt sites?

www.bustedtees.com is a very good site. A couple of shirts did catch my attention.

[TrunksSS3]

i say go for it...

[Mickey D']

I'll do a quick list of some good T'shirt sites.

- http://www.tenbills.com/ Cheap shirts w/ semi good designs
- http://www.panic.com/goods/ This is the only place to buy REAL Katamari Shirts
- http://www.defunker.com/ Much like threadless
- http://www.goapeshirts.com/shop.php Well themed shirts, nice and casual
- http://www.resisttoday.com/ Very casual....the most Shiek site for T'shirts i've found
- www.threadless.com and of course, the online graphic T'shirt haven

[Mickey D']

I got a design...I'd like to post it up online...however it doesn't look like I can attach images....if people wanna help me out, hit me up on MSN messanger at:

ewhsdavism@hotmail.com

[-=KOH=-]

As for copyright laws, you cannot use someone else's characters, drawings, designs writings, without their legal consent. As far as copyrighting anything is concerned as soon as it his paper it cannot be copied unless legal consent is given.

You can get licenses to use other peoples characters and or designs, but good luck. If you sold your own shirts and designs offline the chances of you getting caught would be slim and it would have to be red handed, most likely.

Copyright laws will really only bite you in the ass if you indeed sell someone else's design, If it's not to be sold, it will be alot hard to get into any sort of trouble.

[Windlord0]

This always seems like a really good idea, but nobody ever follows through with it. I really would like some fighting game themed shirts.

I wanted to make one that said "I hate MSP" with the 3 of them in their death pose below. Thought it was a good idea, never did it. That was just for me to have through, never could sell it.

Hope this works out for you, I would definitely buy some once I have cash.

[Mickey D']

Maybe I could possibly do some shirts that people here like on SRK...having to do with Marvel, CVS2, GGxx, or whatever....just say basic design, show design, get approval then ship it out....prices would be 25% off because I support SRK....anyways, just a random thought

[stealthcat]

If you do parodies, they wouldn't infringe on copyright laws.

[Mickey D']

I need advice for a design that I created....is there anyway that I can post the image on this thread?

[Mickey D']

Here's the design that I was talking about...props to mixah for copyright font



http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ewhsdavism/CopyrightFinal.jpg?t=1165021683

[NEBULOSO]

Do you have a name for your company? Sometimes a good name can help your business, that and marketing.... You could also get business cards printed up as well, and see if you can put them in game stores and or have a link on gaming websites, or even a small ad in some gaming magazines.

At least the people here on SRK are helping you with ideas and such, as when I had asked a guy who worked at a t-shirt shop about what kind of ink and printers they used (for Heat Pressing), when they did custom shirts for customers, he wouldn't tell me! :arazz:

[Mickey D']

Do you have a name for your company? Sometimes a good name can help your business, that and marketing.... You could also get business cards printed up as well, and see if you can put them in game stores and or have a link on gaming websites, or even a small ad in some gaming magazines.

At least the people here on SRK are helping you with ideas and such, as when I had asked a guy who worked at a t-shirt shop about what kind of ink and printers they used (for Heat Pressing), when they did custom shirts for customers, he wouldn't tell me! :arazz:

I haven't really thought of the name quite yet...It would be a joint name that my buddies and I have thought about. And yes, I am thinking about carrying business cards around....

I definitely appreciate the help that people from SRK is giving me...thank you again. Is anyone feeling the seattle shirt? Please tell me, I need suggestoins and such....note that this wasn't a shirt that I was gonna sell...this was more or less for me to bein "honing" my skills.

[Mickey D']

So I finally made a couple of designs....I re'updated my Seattle one. This one came out really nice, I think it's actually pretty good

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ewhsdavism/SeattleSandcolored.jpg

This is my first go at a gamer shirt here.....

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ewhsdavism/MGSBoxShirt.jpg

Please tell me what you think....sorry about the copyright shit...but my friends told me that if I wanted to post this online, there better be some way to copy right it if someone tries to jack it...

But like I said, please leave comments, suggestions, comments, you like it? you hate it? etc.

Thanks

[mr. newbie]

^2nd shirt needs color. you need to make the shirts pop a little. get a nice game font (i say batrider) and use that for your company name. put it somewhere. look at the stuff on the hypebeast.com. try digitalgravel.com or http://www.cmonwealth.com/

experiment with brighter colors or darker colors, oversized stuff ect.

i say post stuff on hb because if your desings are really solid you should be able to convince non-gamers. b

[sainthuey]

So I finally made a couple of designs....I re'updated my Seattle one. This one came out really nice, I think it's actually pretty good

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ewhsdavism/SeattleSandcolored.jpg

This is my first go at a gamer shirt here.....

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ewhsdavism/MGSBoxShirt.jpg

Please tell me what you think....sorry about the copyright shit...but my friends told me that if I wanted to post this online, there better be some way to copy right it if someone tries to jack it...

But like I said, please leave comments, suggestions, comments, you like it? you hate it? etc.

Thanks


First one is pretty tight, try doing one with a silhoutte with maybe a white borderlin color along it? might look cool, second one needs better detailing on the box, is that 360 or wii or an cabinent?

Peace