ALL SNK Vs. Capcom CFC DS Cards REVEALED, BAH GAWD!

[Return of Shiki]

:wow:

These cards are SEX!!!

150 SNK Character Cards!!!

http://www.newwavemugen.com/~ggslash/svc_card_ds_j/snk/index.html

150 CAPCOM Character Cards!!!

http://www.newwavemugen.com/~ggslash/svc_card_ds_j/capcom/index.html

60 Action Cards!!!

http://www.newwavemugen.com/~ggslash/svc_card_ds_j/action/index.html

40 Counter Cards!!!

http://www.newwavemugen.com/~ggslash/svc_card_ds_j/counter/index.html

Albert Wesker?
Karman Cole?
World Heroes?!
Twinkle Star Sprites?!!
Phoenix Wright?!!!
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter?!!!!

You bet your ass, WE GOT 'EM!

[Murt!]

Image Mishmash my friend, Image Mishmash.

[Jappo]

When was this game coming out? Later this year, right?

[Murt!]

When was this game coming out? Later this year, right?

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-ba-77-2-49-en-15-capcom-70-1iwi.html

[Return of Shiki]

The game has been out in Japan for a couple of weeks...the US version is due in Feb.

[Shade]

That's my friend's site. But yea, Image MishMash would have been better.

[Sanchez]

Capcom side is pretty good despite the 5 Ryus, 3 Akumas and Morrigans.

Vergil and Q Taunt? Fuck yeha!

[PingPong]

lack of Enja character card has persuaded me to take the Capcom route of the tower

[Oni_Ryu]

The game's system is 'flawed' (http://www.siliconera.com/index.php/2007/01/17/snk-vs-capcom-card-fighters-ds-totally-flawed/) apparently...

Hopefully SNK will fix this before the game's U.S. release. I'll be picking it up none the less.

[Ouroborus]

damn, Jill, Wesker, Ada, the Tyrant and the Nemesis is in it? TOO GOOD.

and Fiona made the cut too? I'm definitely getting this game.

wheres jazu in the SNK side?

[Boleslaw]

Mudmannnn

looks like one i want to pick up

[jae hoon]

Shiki: You should still be mamed for copying Napolean in your thread title. I got this reserved so this is cool.

[platinum_pinoy]

Oh shit. Edgeworth. That is going to be broken tier.

[ruthless_nash]

this game looks shite to me. i think the older version is better. at least it had nearly ALL the capcom and snk characters. this has loads missing!

[4neqs]

No Natsu.

But a Kula doing HSDM on Guile is fine too.

[9999]

I must spread before repping Shiki again.

[Return of Shiki]

Shiki: You should still be mamed for copying Napolean in your thread title. I got this reserved so this is cool.

I was going for Jim Ross, not Napolean. I didn't even know Napolean said that.

The game's system is 'flawed' (http://www.siliconera.com/index.php/2007/01/17/snk-vs-capcom-card-fighters-ds-totally-flawed/) apparently...

Hopefully SNK will fix this before the game's U.S. release. I'll be picking it up none the less.


Yeah, that's the only thing that really concerns me. Not being able to defend after first you lay your characters down is pure stupidity and I have no idea why they changed it from the older Card Fighters...

Is it kind of sad I immediately knew who every SNK character in every character, action, and counter card was? I also know everyone on the Capcom side except for "Rushia", "Fiona Beri", "Nero Angelo", and that chick with a whip next to Karin?

Capcom side is pretty good despite the 5 Ryus, 3 Akumas and Morrigans.

Vergil and Q Taunt? Fuck yeha!

I only saw 2 Ryus...unless you count Ryu from Breath of Fire.

I DID see 4 Akumas (Akuma, Shin Akuma, Cyber Akuma, and ZERO Akuma) and 4 Morrigans (Morrigan, "Club" Morrigan, Lilith-style Morrigan, and Nurse Morrigan).

Which is kinda silly considering they could have put some Viewitiful Joe or Dead Rising characters in there instead...

[DarkGiygas]

only 1 urien card, what a scam

[Kix]

http://www.newwavemugen.com/~ggslash/svc_card_ds_j/snk/snk0113.png

They need to calm down with the overexageration there.

[Z!M]

the rival schools cards are the shit! what system the game for? or is it a CCG?

[JackTenrac!]

...Wesker? PF Sakura? ...siq. Btw...who's the artist behind Ken and Gill? do any of you know?

This game's for Nintendo DS.

EDIT: lol@ Kasumi's AOF 3 ending immortalized in card form. Too Good, indeed.

...that went well.

[Return of Shiki]

http://www.newwavemugen.com/~ggslash/svc_card_ds_j/snk/snk0113.png

They need to calm down with the overexageration there.

That was drawn by Falcoon...he's a former hentai fan artist who got picked up by SNK Playmore and now is one of the head honchos. OF COURSE he's going to exaggerate.

[JackTenrac!]

...Shiki...Falcoon did them all?

[Superking]

That was drawn by Falcoon...he's a former hentai fan artist who got picked up by SNK Playmore and now is one of the head honchos. OF COURSE he's going to exaggerate.

He's not a former hentai artist. He just draws chicks with exaggerated breasts, and in general, exaggerated feet for all of his characters.

[Sano]

Ingrid! Dante! Vergil! Phoenix Wright! Too freaking good! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[dialupsucky]

Good stuff... I almost feel like wacking off to that pic of whip right now. I want bigger versions!

[Atb_555]

I hope this game gets reworked otherwise I will be pissed off.

[aerialgroove]

He's not a former hentai artist. He just draws chicks with exaggerated breasts, and in general, exaggerated feet for all of his characters.

Just like your avatar is not hentai I suppose. So did he draw all of them? I think Zangief looks awful. Gill and and M.Bison are the best in my opinion.

[9999]

I think a lot of the poses of the characters are just kinda boring. Ill still get it though, the game itself is too fun :tup:

[PingPong]

I only saw 2 Ryus...unless you count Ryu from Breath of Fire.

there's Ryu, Evil Ryu, "brown" Ryu, and Ryu from BoF: Dragon Quarter

[Allosaurus]

Super Geon card FTW

[Return of Shiki]

...Shiki...Falcoon did them all?

No, only certain ones.

Like in CFC2, this game has certain one-of-a-kind cards drawn by guest artists from SNK and Capcom. I don't know who drew the standard cards, though.

In this game, you can easily tell which cards are drawn by guest artists...they have the silver or gold borders, rather than the blue or yellow.

EDIT: Okay I do see 3 Ryus now (BROWN Ryu???) but Breath of Fire Ryu doesn't count because he's a completely different character.

[Debaser]

NOW I must get a DS.

[Strider2k2]

Great pics...thanks for linking them...

[Rhio2k]

This card bullshit could have been a sequel to the greatest portable multifranchise fighter ever...

[Airthrow]

That not defending when your characters are out thing seems like a RETARDED glitch...hopefully that gets fixed in the US version as I was gonna buy my second DS and this game as soon as it came out...it has netplay, right? :sad:

This card bullshit could have been a sequel to the greatest portable multifranchise fighter ever...

Have you played the original Card Fighters Clash? I hate collectible card games but it was one of the greatest games I have ever played, seriously.

[Rhio2k]

No. Yugioh killed any interest in anything card-related. I want more fighters, dammit! Besides, I don't get it. It's a fight. You play a card, they play a card, you win! No satisfaction for me and it would feel real random. I need to SEE the moves being executed, and impacts and shit.

[Sano]

Oh snap how they Shadow Lady Chun-Li in there? Ha ha love the action card with Hauzer and another card with Commando in it. Freaking Commando, that's old school! First Capcom game I ever played! :lovin:

KOF MI is in the house too, can't wait to play this!

Though I do hope they make it a little easier to get all the cards unlike part one, once I got about 280 it took me a looooong time to get the other 20. A card battle against an opponent could last over 2 hours, yikes! Well, this time one of my friends is going to get is so we should be able to trade cards. Never met anyone in real life who had both a NGP and this game available for card trading, so I just had to struggle with ludicrously looong battles at the end.

[PingPong]

ok about the not being able to defend after summoning thing am i the only person who hasn't ruled out action/couter cards to stop an early rush??

if someone has stated this already i'm sorry since i only glimpsed at a few posts since my last one

[ibow2no1]

The artwork on the gill card is sweet. So sweet it looks out of place.

And about the game being flawed. As i remember the first game was pretty flawed. If you won the coin toss you pretty much won since you would always have at least one more character card out than the other guy. I forget the particulars of my orignal deck but it was all cards that took out character cards when they came into play: akuma. yashiro, yamazaki. shin akuma. i should dig that game out of my dresser.

[Return of Shiki]

Yeah...the killer triad of Akuma, Yashiro, and Yamazaki ruled the first game.

But at least you still had a CHANCE to win if you pulled out Wild Iori or Guile to counter the Killer Triad.

Getting a FREE UNDEFENDABLE TURN is pretty ridiculous in comparison.

[Mizuki]

It's a trap!
http://www.newwavemugen.com/~ggslash/svc_card_ds_j/counter/counter0018.png

[Superking]

Just like your avatar is not hentai I suppose. So did he draw all of them? I think Zangief looks awful. Gill and and M.Bison are the best in my opinion.

Hey, they're not fucking and they're actually fully clothed in the complete pic, he just got behind her that's all. :rofl:

[Shade]

That was drawn by Falcoon...he's a former hentai fan artist who got picked up by SNK Playmore and now is one of the head honchos. OF COURSE he's going to exaggerate.

Falcoon never did hentai. Nudes of big breasted girls? Yes. But images of characters having sex with one another? No.

On a semi-related note, Falcoon's nice. And I can say that as an artist. The "hate" he gets (from a small demographic mind you) is so retarded. It's like how people start dissing music artist when they become popular, or "mainstream". I call gay on that shit.

[archetype]

wheres the marvel cards....

[Return of Shiki]

Falcoon never did hentai. Nudes of big breasted girls? Yes. But images of characters having sex with one another? No.

On a semi-related note, Falcoon's nice. And I can say that as an artist. The "hate" he gets (from a small demographic mind you) is so retarded. It's like how people start dissing artist when they become popular, or "mainstream". I call gay on that shit.

Well, it depends on what you definition of "hentai". I would say he drew hentai, just not "hardcore" hentai.

I'd say Falcoon is a nice artist when he restrains himself.
And usually, when it comes to drawing women or pretty boys, he doesn't restrain himself. Some of his KOF 2003 artwork proved he was pretty good. Some of it was god-awful. I personally hated every female drawing he did in KOF 2003 because he had to give them all some weird "china doll" faces.

wheres the marvel cards....

...What?

[Shade]

Well, it depends on what you definition of "hentai". I would say he drew hentai, just not "hardcore" hentai.

I'd say Falcoon is a nice artist when he restrains himself.
And usually, when it comes to drawing women or pretty boys, he doesn't restrain himself. Some of his KOF 2003 artwork proved he was pretty good. Some of it was god-awful. I personally hated every female drawing he did in KOF 2003 because he had to give them all some weird "china doll" faces.



...What?

"Hentai" refers to sexual acts depciting various japanese related artwork/characters. Theres no sexual acts being depicted by Falcoon's art. By your definition, nude = hentai. Makes no sense, sir. No one is fingering themselves or anything. lol

Besides, Falcoon was ultimately, showcasing his range and ability. People look for that when hiring artist for work. If you cant draw titties, then you probably wont get anywork. You can only get so far drawing half naked muscle men.:rolleyes:

[Return of Shiki]

"Hentai" refers to sexual acts depciting various japanese related artwork/characters. Theres no sexual acts being depicted by Falcoon's art. By your definition, nude = hentai. Makes no sense, sir. No one is fingering themselves or anything. lol

No, "hentai" simply means "pervert" in Japanese.
Therefore, what is considered "hentai" is just as arbitrary as what someone considers to be "pornography".

Even if there is no depiction of sexual acts, nude drawings of characters can be considered "hentai", because it is ultimately up to each individual to define what they consider to be "hentai".

[Shade]

I thought "hentai" meant abnormal or some shit?

[4neqs]

Nah, iirc it does mean "pervert".

[Shade]

Hentai (変態 or へんたい, Hentai?) listen (help·info) is a Japanese word that means "abnormality" or "metamorphosis".

[4neqs]

Weird. First time I've read of it in that context. I could've swore that it encompassed simple nudes as well, but then again, sites like 4ch have an "ecchi" (which, if I'm not mistaken, means "naughty") section for the non-hardcore

Anywho, re: Falcoon art
While I agree with Shiki in the sense that I normally don't like the way he draws females (Mai in particular), I'll also have to agree with Shade that a lot of the hate is pretty ridiculous.

[Diek Stiekem]

Nemesis, Tyrant, Wesker, Bilstein, Dante, Nelo Angelo... oh hell yeah roster going nicely here..

Seems our Psychopowered friend Bison is MIA, or did I look over him :confused:

[aerialgroove]

I don't care if he did hentai I just think he's not as good as most Capcom artists but for games like Namco VS Capcom or Card games with this huge amount of fighters he's ok. Not that I could do it better.

Oh and you're both right with the hentai thing. It can also just mean abnormal such as "hentaigana" which are symbols that are not used usually (ie because there is another symbol with the same sound, so you only need one). And hentai doesn't describe the consumer as a pervert, just the item. The consumer is not a hentai, he's an otaku or something like that.

[4neqs]

Nemesis, Tyrant, Wesker, Bilstein, Dante, Nelo Angelo... oh hell yeah roster going nicely here..

Seems our Psychopowered friend Bison is MIA, or did I look over him :confused:

http://www.newwavemugen.com/~ggslash/svc_card_ds_j/capcom/index.html

He's there, in between Blodia and Poison. Maybe the different artist distracted you:

http://www.newwavemugen.com/~ggslash/svc_card_ds_j/capcom/capcom0113.png

[PsychoSquall]

Why haven't I seen any srk avatars with these card images in them yet!?!? I'm feeling up for it... if you want an av using SvC cards, PM me and I'll try and make them for you.

[Sdouble]

holy shit i can't wait.

[Diek Stiekem]

http://www.newwavemugen.com/~ggslash/svc_card_ds_j/capcom/index.html

He's there, in between Blodia and Poison. Maybe the different artist distracted you:

http://www.newwavemugen.com/~ggslash/svc_card_ds_j/capcom/capcom0113.png


idd, look over him due to the Psycho glow from his hands... Trish in there as well! tha hotnezz!:sweat:


And hopefully we get an PSP release or something...

[Sano]

I wonder if brown Ryu is a silent nod to the SF Hong Kong comics where SNH Ryu AKA Evil Ryu was always depicted as having a brown outfit and a blue headband. His skin color was different though...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/VGM1-1.jpg

Well they already have a card for SNH Ryu but I wonder...

[Sano]

Why haven't I seen any srk avatars with these card images in them yet!?!? I'm feeling up for it... if you want an av using SvC cards, PM me and I'll try and make them for you.

< Thanks man, looks great! :clap:

[dialupsucky]

acctualy the brownish red ryu is a popular ST color of his. I assume thats why it was used.

[TempestFox]

that chick with a whip next to Karin?l

Franziska von Karma from PW.

[celcius]

Nice cards

[Æther]

NOW I must get a DS.
Our ranks increase! :badboy:

Damn those cards are sex though. If anyone spots the OG art PLEASE link it up.

This game does have WiFi though, right?

[Return of Shiki]

Here are the original CFC cards:

http://strategywiki.org/wiki/SNK_vs_Capcom:_Card_Fighters_Clash/Capcom

http://strategywiki.org/wiki/SNK_vs_Capcom:_Card_Fighters_Clash/SNK

http://strategywiki.org/wiki/SNK_vs_Capcom:_Card_Fighters_Clash/Action

[Debaser]

Who cares? Falcoon is a good artist, hentai or not. KOF 03 Kim was fucking boss.

[Lucretz]

That's a lot of Last Blade characters. Nice.
.. though I kept scrolling down hoping a Shigen card would pop up. >..>

[PingPong]

This game does have WiFi though, right?

no it doesn't :sad:

only wireless play with ppl near by

[Sano]

acctualy the brownish red ryu is a popular ST color of his. I assume thats why it was used.


OK that makes a lot more sense. Thanks!

[evilmuffinmanX]

Here are the original CFC cards:

http://strategywiki.org/wiki/SNK_vs_Capcom:_Card_Fighters_Clash/Capcom

http://strategywiki.org/wiki/SNK_vs_Capcom:_Card_Fighters_Clash/SNK

http://strategywiki.org/wiki/SNK_vs_Capcom:_Card_Fighters_Clash/Action

ugly,i like my new and improved hentai cards!:sweat:

OK that makes a lot more sense. Thanks!

no not really,every1 likes green and yellow the best! :cool:

must be like dirty ryu or somthing...

[Sano]

Refresh my memory, but isn't the brown Ryu the "Failed Akuma Ryu?" You know, the Ryu you got if you tried the Gouki AKA Akuma code in ST and failed. :rofl:

[Murt!]

Refresh my memory, but isn't the brown Ryu the "Failed Akuma Ryu?" You know, the Ryu you got if you tried the Gouki AKA Akuma code in ST and failed. :rofl:

Well idk about you, but I always got "Christmas" Ryu (green and red) when I fucked the code up.

[Sano]

Well idk about you, but I always got "Christmas" Ryu (green and red) when I fucked the code up.

Taken from the bonud information off of Capcom Classics Collection Volume 2 for ST:

"Little known fact:

If the code to play as Akuma was executed incorrectly, players usually ended up with Ryu in a brown uniform. When many seasoned gamers in an arcade saw someone playing Ryu in a brown uniform, they knew that the Ryu was a "Failed Akuma."

Mystery solved? Not solved? And the plot thickens... :rofl:

[Murt!]

Why haven't I seen any srk avatars with these card images in them yet!?!? I'm feeling up for it... if you want an av using SvC cards, PM me and I'll try and make them for you.

Because being a complete PS scrub, I can't figure out how to take the images from the cards themselves.:arazz:

[Airthrow]

So this game isn't playable online,only against other people near you with a DS over wifi? W.T.F.

[XTG]

this wouldnt be an issue for you at all if things go your way...

[Airthrow]

this wouldnt be an issue for you at all if things go your way...

Well considering I will skool your ass hardcore at it I was looking for superior comp. :karate:

[InfiniDragon]

This game has Setsuna AND BOF: Dragon Quarter Ryu. :pray:

FUCK CvS2, they need to make this shit a fighter...NOW.

[Return of Shiki]

This is the last game under the SNK/Capcom agreement and I just hope this game is a BIG success.

So that there will be a SMALL chance that Capcom may be persuaded to extend the license and continue the series...CvS3, a remake of Match of the Millenium for DS, more Card Fighter Clashes...yes, it's not likely but it would be too good :sad:

[JackTenrac!]

So that there will be a SMALL chance that Capcom may be persuaded to extend the license and continue the series...CvS3, a remake of Match of the Millenium for DS, more Card Fighter Clashes...yes, it's not likely but it would be too good :sad:



STOP GETTING INTO MY FANTASIES... I really wanted to see a improved system for SVC:MOTM II badly. Leona/Guile tag move wouldda looked cool.

...that went well.

[Diek Stiekem]

Why haven't I seen any srk avatars with these card images in them yet!?!? I'm feeling up for it... if you want an av using SvC cards, PM me and I'll try and make them for you.


Someone rep this man:clap:

[L.one H.iryu S.aga]

Holy shit. I could use a new avatar... for real. I still have all of the work PS hooked me up with in the Naruto thread.

[Return of Shiki]

BUMP because this game is coming out NEXT WEEK. Got mine pre-ordered.

EDIT: To correct myself in a previous post, Falcoon DID do ALL of the artwork for this game.

He basically has 3 different styles:

1) His corporate "stock" style he uses when he has to do a bunch of drawings...like in the KOF 2003 or SvC: Chaos endings or in the generic cards. I actually really this style.

2) His "hentai" style he uses like in the KOF 2003 official character art or the Mina and Mai cards in this game. I absolutely can't stand this style.

3) His "kiddy" style like he uses in the new Twinkle Star Sprites, that child molestation game, or in the story characters in this game. Funnily enough, this game is going to be rated "T" for Partial Nudity simply because of the skimpy outfits he gave most of the female characters.

BTW the official English site is up:
http://www.ignitionent.com/cardfighters/main.htm

[Sano]

Good update. Can't wait until next week! I'll be playing like a mad man, gotta catch'em all lol!

[ChairHome]

Any word on if they fixed the problems from the Japanese version?

[catchafire]

Seriously. This should have been out months ago, and I hope as well that they used the time wisely...

[tajiri]

is there any falcoon art?

:/

[King9999]

I'm looking forward to this game, as I've never played a SvC Cardfighter game before.

[Tat guy]

Anyway to get the full card images saved?

[Overworld]

I'm looking forward to this game, as I've never played a SvC Cardfighter game before.

Blasphemy! You'd do yourself a big favor to go back and play the second one. (psst...emulator....)

[Æther]

Goddamn. I forgot about this. Now I have to get Pokemon AND this? Nintendo loves to rape my wallet.:lol: :sad:

[Dark Geese]

Im actually looking forward to this as well!!

:lovin:

[Freakshow]

Tuesday can't get here soon enough. It is gonna be so on next weekend with my boys.

[Return of Shiki]

So I thinking...Card Fighters DS for EVO?

Maybe down the line?
It could happen...

[Sasmasta]

Falcoon did ALL the art? That's impressive. I'm familiar with his 'usual' style but those other cards that look like something UN-Falcoon were tight as hell.

In any case, good lookin' out on the official site. It's pretty coo' yo.

Wow! Who do you pledge your allegiance to? This site just got bookmarked.

[xjester]

Here's All 400 cards, if anyones interested:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4LSWDDI0

[TempestFox]

is there any falcoon art?

:/

Read the thread much?




anyway, I'm hype. Can't wait to get this thing. FINALLY. I hope there's some online play involved. Would be too sweet.

[Return of Shiki]

Falcoon did ALL the art? That's impressive. I'm familiar with his 'usual' style but those other cards that look like something UN-Falcoon were tight as hell.


Oops...I mean all of the art except for most of the Silver or Gold Cards.

Like in CFC2...they had special guest artists from both Capcom and SNK do certain characters.

For example, Kyo and Batsu were done by the SNK artist who is most famous for doing the Buriki One and KOF XI official art.

K' and Iori also look like they were done by the SNK artist who did the Garou: Mark of the Wolves art/character design.

I just wanna know who did MMZ Zero and Pyron :wow:

[JAMMAR]

Definitely hyped for this game.

[nothingxs]

Any news on whether they fixed the balance issues?

[PingPong]

other than the fact that SNK was pushing back the release dates for most of their games earlier this year... no word of any balance changes

[orochizoolander]

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE THEY HAVE ADON BUT NO SAGAT GOD OF MUAY THAI?!?!?!?:annoy: !!!!!11

on the other hand they have phoeniz wright which ALMOST makes up for it:wonder:

[4neqs]

http://www.newwavemugen.com/~ggslash/svc_card_ds_j/capcom/index.html

Uh... in between Servbot and Sakura. Check again.

[spudlyff8fan]

http://www.newwavemugen.com/~ggslash/svc_card_ds_j/snk/snk0113.png

When did Mina get teh bubz?

[Return of Shiki]

Any news on whether they fixed the balance issues?

Doubt it...the extra months long delay I doubt was served for anything besides maybe improving the translation.
99% more than likely the gameplay is going to be exactly the same, with no tweaks.

From what I'm reading...the main problem is unlike the first 2 CFCs, you can't attack OR defend in your first turn.
Yes, that's dumb...but I wonder if a lot of the people complaining how going second can mean you lose 50% of your HP for free actually played the first CFC.

Because in CFC1, the balance was even worse...as if you went second and your opponent drew the Killer Triad you were pretty much dead.
If your opponent drew the Killer Triad AND Geese/MechZangief then you had NO chance unless you got either Guile, Wild Iori, the Killer Triad yourself, or otherwise the Seraphic Wing card (and Tooptadon or a character card with enough SP to play it).

[nothingxs]

So anything that's just been played cannot attack OR defend until your next turn? That's shitty game design right there. :|

[Fadedsun303]

So anything that's just been played cannot attack OR defend until your next turn? That's shitty game design right there. :|

That's the same rule in Magic:The Gathering, I believe. Though, I think a card just played is allowed to defend.

[PingPong]

actually in CardFightersDS, people were complaining you CAN'T defend if it was just played.

[4neqs]

That's right, summoning sickness for both attack and defense is lame (and in MTG at least, a bunch of critters have the haste ability and they can attack the turn they come into play)

[Sano]

Lol the forum hicupped and lost all of the bios in the game I put up yesterday. :rofl:

So... to recap... every Capcom/SNK card in the game has a bio. I'll toss up the ones I put up yesterday later.

Gamestop / EB seems to of had a problem with the shipping order so if you are still looking for it don't go there, but they said it should arrive today.

Anyway, it's a lot of fun - if you played the older version(s) you shouldn't have a problem adjusting to the new rules. The orbs you have to use to play the cards now may make matches longer in the long run... you are on the fence if you're opponent attacks first but I'm on the second level and so far the AI is not that smart, course it's early.

Yeah I guess that's about it. :sweat:

[MiyagiShin X]

I may just pick it up, im goona wait till my friend goes cause im hoping for an action battle system or something with a little excitment u know?

[Æther]

Picked it up yesterday. Reminds me MTG except the characters act as the mana at the same time.

Too bad for no Wifi though. Oh well. *goes on third level*

[MrQuotes]

phoenix wrigh card, mia card, and phoenix vs edgeworth cards = GODLIKE!!!

o yea protoman card looks cool as well :tup:

[Jedi W.]

Let me start off with saying I love this fucking game and will spend god knows how long finding every card.

HOWEVER, the actual mechanics of the card fighting are pretty broken. As someone said before, it's not as if the previous mechanic wasn't broken, since you could quite easily create decks that would make for 2nd or 3rd turn kills solely because Akuma was a cheap bitch.

This one is broken because of how force works. Since you get SOOO MANY character slots, it's often a better strategy to keep a flood of small, cheap to use characters on the field than bigger guys. Couple that with the fact that you can pretty much burn cards for force AND the fact that you get summoning sickness that lasts an entire turn, and that means you can get out a crap load of guys out on the first turn, meaning free damage on the next.

The different force colors work like mana in M:TG, sorta. It behooves you to have a single color deck, as at that point you don't have to worry about color syncing.

So is the system broken? Very much so.
Is it as broken as the last game? In a different way.

Of course, there's no fucking WiFi, which just pisses me off to no end since games like this are made for it, so I doubt I'll ever play another human being.

--jedi\/\/.

[Mixah]

why does q.bee's card look like she's having an orgasm?

[SmoothCat]

anyone got a link to a nds rom? pm me

[Oni_Ryu]

Somehow my GS got it yesterday, haven't played it yet though (too busy with Pokemon.)

As for the balance issue. If you did go first and you layed out an attack, wouldn't that leave you defenseless, so your opponent could easily deal the same amount out to you?

[Sano]

Ack... turns out something came up and I'll be too busy to toss bios up that got deleted by SRK burping any time soon. But it seems that more of you have the game now so it's not necessary. :smile:

I beat the second boss now oh yeah! :rock:

[BBCampbell]

Just got the game.


...and it sucks.


Or more like, the artwork is teh sex, but the aesthetic is too Pokemon/Yu-gi-oh-ish (Who under the age of 20 cares about Ryu, Terry Bogard, Phoenix Wright, Haohmaru, Dan Hibiki, Cyber Woo, etc?) and I don' t understand how to play well.


Plus I lost my first battle because I didn't have enough gems (or whatever the colored things are called) to use any of my characters...

Fucking Servbot costs more than Atomic Guy!!! WTF?


I'll give this game a few more chances, but I'm not liking it so far...

[Geddoe]

Somehow my GS got it yesterday, haven't played it yet though (too busy with Pokemon.)

As for the balance issue. If you did go first and you layed out an attack, wouldn't that leave you defenseless, so your opponent could easily deal the same amount out to you?

Yes but if they attack, they can't defend. Then on your next turn you finish them off because they have no defenders.

[Oni_Ryu]

Yes but if they attack, they can't defend. Then on your next turn you finish them off because they have no defenders.

Ah yes good point. That does indeed suck :confused:

[Windlord0]

Yes but if they attack, they can't defend. Then on your next turn you finish them off because they have no defenders.

So you don't counter attack. While it is a free attack round for you, you are also ruining the rest of the game for yourself. So you should have ready a good enough team to defend the next round. The playing field at that point becomes even power wise, the only difference is that you will be 600-800 health lower.

Going first is a big advantage, but it doesn't hand you the game unless both players are trying to rush without thinking. The game is very based around control of the board and making matchups that save your characters life. If you are second, you can still win if you wait to make an even field and then take control of the board and never let them have control back.

I am only on the 7th floor right now, so there might be more later that breaks this. The little I have seen in building the beginnings of a red deck leads me to beleive that the first round will become even more crucial, but getting the right draw is also crucial for that. Either way I am still having a great time with this game.

[PingPong]

hmmm, seems like some or all Card Fighters DS carts might be bugged

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=930038&topic=34985604

[Sano]

On this thread I put up a lot of the Street Fighter bios from the game if anyone's interested. :smile:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?p=3863275#post3863275

[Jedi W.]

hmmm, seems like some or all Card Fighters DS carts might be bugged

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=930038&topic=34985604

well fuck me!

http://kotaku.com/gaming/notag/card-fighters-ds-broken-256333.php

I've been looking forward to this game for YEARS. First the mechanics of it are broke as fuck. Now, the game is just broke as fuck...

...so damned MAD right now.

--jedi\/\/.

[King9999]

hmmm, seems like some or all Card Fighters DS carts might be bugged

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=930038&topic=34985604

That bug is preventing me from picking up the game. I already dealt with the bug in Tales of Eternia for PSP, I don't feel like dealing with another.

Hopefully SNK will fix this issue, or I'll have to wait for the EU version.

[jae hoon]

Just picked it up havent played it yet though.

[IbanezNinja]

Can anyone with the game confirm it's brokeness, as in being unable to actually beat the game the second time around?

[TempestFox]

Confirmed. SNK dosen't playtest their shit and hates the american market.

[Mr. Bastos]

Confirmed. SNK dosen't playtest their shit and hates the american market.

good thing I decided to check on this before I bought it because I remember someone mentioning the non defending glitch before too. guess I'm not getting this then

[Etcetera]

Can anyone with the game confirm it's brokeness, as in being unable to actually beat the game the second time around?
I have it and confirmed it. Even with the first play through, if you talk to the character after beating him the game hangs at the text box with nothing coming up.
I am guessing that the localization team forgot the text that was called for in that case... or in a extremely unprofessional move, a typo could have caused this. This seems like an easy fix, just would be expensive to do. :sad:

[IbanezNinja]

Arg. That is terrible, I was totally picking this up tommorow.

[shatterstar]

stupid SNK. i want my sammy vs capcom!

[Æther]

Goddamn, this sucks. I hope my cart doesn't have this problem. I'm already stuck trying to get that one card for that chick on the 7th level. If so I'm going to have to return it. I guess the team didn't care enough to play through it. R.I.P. Capcom/SNK :sad:

[Return of Shiki]

Well...while I'm just a TAD disappointed with some of the dumb new mechanics, I can't say this is a bad game.

It's good...just that it could've and should've been better.
They also really NEEDED to push it back another 2 months to bug-test and polish the translation.

Still, my final judgement on the game is to come...as soon as I get deeper into the game and when/if I encounter the infamous freeze glitch.

[JubeiNinja69]

Confirmed. SNK dosen't playtest their shit and hates the american market.

i hate snk playmore usa. they fucked with my psp metal slug anthology with long loading times.

[PingPong]

SNKP's official response to the jon glitch
http://www.snkplaymoreusa.com/mb/viewtopic.php?t=2976

[Etcetera]

SNKP's official response to the jon glitch
http://www.snkplaymoreusa.com/mb/viewtopic.php?t=2976
Nice to see they are trying to correct this mistake. I just hate they I will have to start over. :sad:
DS needs memory cards.

[Pained Auron]

six weeks? not bad. i can't wait for them to release it. i'm stuck looking for an ukyo card for that dumb bitch that won't let me go up a floor because she's a cunt

[Sano]

Not bad. GO GO SNKP! :tup:

Well I got up to level 7 where I need a Hayate card to advance anyway, until then I'll just keep battling and buying Capcom card packs.

[Return of Shiki]

Not bad. GO GO SNKP! :tup:

Well I got up to level 7 where I need a Hayate card to advance anyway, until then I'll just keep battling and buying Capcom card packs.

Funny, I'm in the exact same position...need Hayate to get past Level 7...

Hayate is a rarity A card, which means the only way I believe you can get them at this point in the game is via the Scratch cards in the shops.

I tried and got 3 rarity A cards in a row (Batsu, SonSon, and Akira) and then I started getting D and C cards...still no Hayate :arazz:

[Pained Auron]

Funny, I'm in the exact same position...need Hayate to get past Level 7...

Hayate is a rarity A card, which means the only way I believe you can get them at this point in the game is via the Scratch cards in the shops.

I tried and got 3 rarity A cards in a row (Batsu, SonSon, and Akira) and then I started getting D and C cards...still no Hayate :arazz:


you gotta keep trading to get the hayate card. trade with the people in 5f (i think). eventually one will offer a hayate card in a trade. hell you might even get a yashiro nakanase card as well,. i got two of them when i was looking for the hayate card. he is also a rank A card

[Return of Shiki]

Yeah, I figured those traders were looping...oftentimes one of the kids'll trade you for something another kids needs and so on...

[Sano]

Okay, thanks for the advice! :smile:

[AlphaDragoon]

Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter Ryu as a card = game being at least cool despite any number of errors or glitches it may have.

[Return of Shiki]

Yo Sano...

There's a new FAQ on GameFAQs that finally gave me an answer to a Hayate card.

After hours of buying scratch cards and low-level packs (to find an Eagle card to trade to those kids on the 5th floor) I found out...you can just TALK to the German kid on the 6th floor (Capcom side) and get a Hayate card for FREE.
In fact you can keep coming back to him later and get even MORE Hayate cards...

[Sano]

Yo Sano...

There's a new FAQ on GameFAQs that finally gave me an answer to a Hayate card.

After hours of buying scratch cards and low-level packs (to find an Eagle card to trade to those kids on the 5th floor) I found out...you can just TALK to the German kid on the 6th floor (Capcom side) and get a Hayate card for FREE.
In fact you can keep coming back to him later and get even MORE Hayate cards...

Okay thanks I'll try it. I've been spending most of my time having random battles to get more points to buy more Capcom packs, which has nothing to do with finding Hayate but trying to get as many Capcom cards as I can. One of those kids asked me trade in my T.Hawk card HELL NO! At least not until I have 2 of them... :sweat:

[Stuart Hayden]

Yes. THey're actually going to fix it. At first all they were going to do is push it back a month in canada to fix the bug for them.

[MiyagiShin X]

So should i wait for a re-release then? Then get the game?

[versus addict]

^...seriously, are they gonna pull all of the old ones or just replace on request? I don't want to invest time in a game I'm gonna have to return and restart from the beginning.....

[Shadow Ace 50]

I smell Capcom Vs. Snk 3

[PingPong]

^...seriously, are they gonna pull all of the old ones or just replace on request? I don't want to invest time in a game I'm gonna have to return and restart from the beginning.....

from the looks of yesterday's statement, SNKP is going to do a replace on request. but at the momment they haven't given out instructions for that since they are waiting on Nintendo to send them replacement cartridges. anyway once they do start telling people to send their catridges in i'll be sure to post it here and the DS thread.

[Return of Shiki]

Okay thanks I'll try it. I've been spending most of my time having random battles to get more points to buy more Capcom packs, which has nothing to do with finding Hayate but trying to get as many Capcom cards as I can. One of those kids asked me trade in my T.Hawk card HELL NO! At least not until I have 2 of them... :sweat:

Dude, seriously...just get the card and move up to the 8th floor.

There's a shop on the 8th floor that sells Medium and High Capcom pack cards, which means plenty of semi-rare B Capcom Cards...

Much faster to fill in your Capcom collection that way than buying a bunch of packs from Kido...

[Sano]

Oh hey I'm on the 8th floor already lol! It's not like I'm really gonna pass up a chance to fight new people, or, the same people with different color palletes. :rofl:

That's hilarious how Neo Rasa was the first one to post on that 'SNKP will fix it' thread. I don't see him post around here much nowadays, we used to have some good discussions back in the day.

I remember we had this big argument on how I was saying the Zangief vs. Haohmaru match up in SVC MOTM was the stupidest match up I've ever heard of. He came back with how Zangief was SF's strongest grappler so it was a good match up. I said no, that's Hugo - because him surviving a Shin Shoryuken is still greater than anything 'Gief's done. And then he said Zangief was still their default grappler, in enough games to be considered as the strongest anyway and he went into Karin's speech in the minigame mode of SVC MOTM how she talks about people not using weapons can be just as dangerous as people using weapons. I just agreed to disagree and told him that I still think it was a stupid match up that would only end up with 'Gief getting his head chopped off and nothing short of the guy who thought up of putting these 2 together walking on water and saying Jesus Christ told him to do it would convince me that it was a good match up. Ah, those were some crazy days. Or very nerd debate-y days at least. :rofl:

[Return of Shiki]

It was a very strange match-up...I just figured they were the heaviest-hitters from each side and the game, and that plus their tendency to drink during matches made SNK pair them up and didn't think too hard about it.

Zangief was incredibly beastly in SvC: MotM, though. They basically took everything good about him from Alpha 3 and the EX series and gave him the ability to combo into all of his throws. Beastly.

[Sano]

Yeah he was pretty beastly in the game. :smile:

Not that I still think it's a stupid match up, or... at this point in time I've seen a whole lot of crazy crossover match ups from Capcom, SNK and even Marvel and DC in comic books to just sort of shrug at the entire thing... :looney:

[CRYSIS_ROSSO]

I smell Capcom Vs. Snk 3

stop dude don't say things like that *overload* I get to exited when I here things like Capcom vs. SNK 3:lovin:

[ramza]

damn this game is disappointing. i loved the first two so much, for this to get ruined by one rule change is retarded.

[Return of Shiki]

The game gets better once you get some of the better cards in the mid-levels.

Still I have to say the fact that they changed it so that you can't defend on your card's first turn does piss me off a bit.
At least there are still some ways to get around it by:
A) Using the powers of cards like Swimsuit Sakura or Raizo to unfreeze cards
B) Using Reaction cards like Brocken's card or the Metal Slug POW
but these methods require both luck of the draw and a good bit of force orbs to use.

Still like the game and I want another CFC, but with the rules fixed back to being able to defend with a card you just laid down. Also, being able to have 8 cards in the ring is way too much. 5 should be the very max.

[Sano]

I dunno, I find it sometimes it's better to attack second. Well not better, but there are things you can exploit. You see how many characters your opponent is starting off with and how much power he's packing so you know how many you need to counter, he can get the first attack but it doesn't mean you can't turn it around. It takes getting used to but there are ways to take advantage of it, the more you play the more you think outside of the box... or ring, if that's a better way to say it...

[Return of Shiki]

Made it up to the 10th level...

I verified that my copy of the game is glitched since it did freeze up when trying to talk to John again on the 9th floor...

At this point, I don't know if I should just continue with the game or just wait to mail it off for a replacement.
The glitch only really matters if you're trying to go up the tower for the 2nd time during New Game+, since on the first playthough you can avoid talking to John again.
I'm pretty sure you can get about 98% of the cards even without going past the 9th floor in New Game+ so I don't know if I should just keep playing through it anyway...

[Debaser]

stop dude don't say things like that *overload* I get to exited when I here things like Capcom vs. SNK 3:lovin:

Don't hold your breath.

[BobSmack]

Made it up to the 10th level...

I verified that my copy of the game is glitched since it did freeze up when trying to talk to John again on the 9th floor...

At this point, I don't know if I should just continue with the game or just wait to mail it off for a replacement.
The glitch only really matters if you're trying to go up the tower for the 2nd time during New Game+, since on the first playthough you can avoid talking to John again.
I'm pretty sure you can get about 98% of the cards even without going past the 9th floor in New Game+ so I don't know if I should just keep playing through it anyway...

Alright, so what is the final deal with this? I also have a glitched version - I just got to the 9th floor, beat John, and went to talk to him again and it doesn't go. Did anyone figure out a way around this? I just want to get 100%, can this be done on New Game Plus with a glitched version?

[Return of Shiki]

Nope...from what I understand there are a couple of cards (like S-class rarity) that cannot be gotten from anywhere but the highest levels of the tower during New Game+

You can still beat the game (just don't talk to John again after beating him) and get like 98% of the cards but you can't get through the tower in New Game+ since there's no way to make it past Level 9 again without talking to John.

So...we just have to wait about 6 weeks and mail our copies to SNK Playmore USA and wait to get replacement carts back. Then start all over again.
I'm planning on at least giving my cards to someone I know before I ship the game off...then at least I could maybe get some of them back...

[chopa]

On the one hand I dont want to get this game for its lack of wifi
on the other I really want to support it and get a sequel
oh the decisions

[PingPong]

well there won't be another sequel because Card Fighters DS is the last game on the contract between Capcom and SNK

[MiyagiShin X]

You mean the contract is over... lol i dont understand how that works... but i guess it means no CVS3 for a long long time.

[BobSmack]

Nope...from what I understand there are a couple of cards (like S-class rarity) that cannot be gotten from anywhere but the highest levels of the tower during New Game+

You can still beat the game (just don't talk to John again after beating him) and get like 98% of the cards but you can't get through the tower in New Game+ since there's no way to make it past Level 9 again without talking to John.

So...we just have to wait about 6 weeks and mail our copies to SNK Playmore USA and wait to get replacement carts back. Then start all over again.
I'm planning on at least giving my cards to someone I know before I ship the game off...then at least I could maybe get some of them back...

Hmm...so if I were to get another copy, then trade all my cards over, then trade them back onto a new copy...that would work, yeah?

[Return of Shiki]

It could work...the only problem is I haven't tested it out by trading cards with somebody yet.

One of my bosses at work (Gamestop) actually has the game too so I'm gonna ask him to hold some of my cards when I mail off for the replacement cart.
I don't know if there is a limit to the amount of cards you can trade, or if there are any restrictions on trading but I'll find out...

[P-Soul]

Do not kill me if I ask this and it has already been answered in this thread but I obviously know that there is a glitch in the game and you can get replacement carts. So is it safe to buy the game at a retail store now? If not will I get a fixed copy if I order online?

Oh and I no nothing about the card stats but this card owns all, lol

http://www.newwavemugen.com/~ggslash/svc_card_ds_j/capcom/capcom0020.png

[Return of Shiki]

The replacement carts haven't been made yet.

SNKP USA will have them available in about 6 weeks. Any copies you find in stores now will be glitched.
I'd say that if you want the game, wait about 2 months and then try to order directly from SNK Playmore.

You could also buy right now with the intent of shipping it off later...if you just want to play through the game as far as you can go.

[Sano]

You mean the contract is over... lol i dont understand how that works... but i guess it means no CVS3 for a long long time.

The first contract was for both SNK and Capcom to make 3 games a piece. Capcom made CVS1, CVS1 Pro and CVS2. SNK made SVC MOTM, Card Fighters Clash 1 & 2. During this time, SNK wanted to make an arcade version - what would be SVC Chaos but the bankruptcy put a halt to that, they made Card Fighters 2 instead.

SVC Chaos fell under a different contract. So did this game. No idea if these are both under seperate contracts or different ones. But this is all about SNKP making crossover games without Capcom making crossover games like the last time.

SNKP not to long ago, about a year ago said another Capcom and SNK fighting game crossover was possible. But later on they said it wasn't going to happen, seems like either one side or both sides doesn't have any interest in the project right now. But, just judging from this it seems like it would fall under a new / seperate contract too.

CVS3... anything is possible but like was said, don't hold your breath.

[MiyagiShin X]

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wow thanks for the history lesson. I always was curious about SNK's fallout. I still play My NeoGeo Pocket color all the time... (almost as much as my DS)

but unfortuanatly that means i cant in good consiousness pick up this game. Theres just too much else out there on the DS and the whole glitch thing is also stopping me from getting it. If theres a re-release with Wifi you bet ill get that.:sweat:

[Return of Shiki]

Still can't believe Capcom wasted one of their games on CvS Pro.
Think of the possibilities...what they could've done after CvS2 if they didn't make CvS Pro...then again, I guess they weren't interested in taking the license beyond CvS2.

[Sano]

Still can't believe Capcom wasted one of their games on CvS Pro.
Think of the possibilities...what they could've done after CvS2 if they didn't make CvS Pro...then again, I guess they weren't interested in taking the license beyond CvS2.

Man SOMEONE needs to make Felicia's mini dance game in SVC MOTM into a full-blown Dance Dance Revolution / Beatmania game. That joint was about 5 years ahead of it's time.

Long ago under the Funamizu / Okamoto reign (who no longer work for Capcom) they said they would never make a CVS3, they said they did everything they could do with the franchise with CVS2 and if they made a sequel only the hardcore would play it and they wouldn't make that much money unless they found new ways to breath life into these franchises. Ditto for MVC3, which is impossible right now anyway due to EA having the Marvel Fighting game rights until 2009.

But again, this was a long time ago, so who knows - still don't keep your hopes up regarding CVS3 or SVC Chaos 2. Well, I'm still looking forward to SNKP's promise of all new KOF Sprites for everybody and the new Udon Sprites for HD ST for the PS3/360 for the time being at least. :smile:

[MiyagiShin X]

But again, this was a long time ago, so who knows - still don't keep your hopes up regarding CVS3 or SVC Chaos 2. Well, I'm still looking forward to SNKP's promise of all new KOF Sprites for everybody and the new Udon Sprites for HD ST for the PS3/360 for the time being at least. :smile:

What SNKP's making new Kof Sprites! Pics or anything for evidence. Theyve said that manytimes but there always so shritty.

I saw the Udon sprites... those look good and its a step foward to a new begining of High Rez sprites!:lovin:

[Sano]

What SNKP's making new Kof Sprites! Pics or anything for evidence. Theyve said that manytimes but there always so shritty.


Had trouble finding links of the interview / news but it is in the Wiki and SRK had a thread on it somewhere in Fighting Games Discussion too when this was announced. Well, take this as one of the times Wikipedia is right due to me not having time to find a better link. :rofl:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_of_Fighters_XII

[Return of Shiki]

Bump for Recall News, plus to continue discussion about questions of the game:

If you're still one of the very few who care about getting a fixed copy of SvC Card Fighters DS, register your copy, print the form, and then mail the defective cart for the recall:

http://snkplaymoreusa.com/recall.php

They will now begin shipping replacement carts on July 1.

[Sano]

Thanks. I kind of stopped playing after I found I had the glitch, mostly I just randomly challenge people to get money to buy more Capcom cards. I got up to the Casino floor and beat everybody except that lady who wants me to bet a card pack or something like that. I have no idea what she means and haven't bothered to look online to find out what because of the glitch thing, plus the last song on the Sweatin' stage of EBA has been kicking my ass lately and I'm about to pass Mega Man Zero 2 which is a little on the difficult side - WHY ART THOU PUNISHING ME DS? :rofl:

My friend has this game too so I'm going to have him hold all of my cards when I send my copy in. Well I guess it depends on which one of us sends our copy in first.

[Return of Shiki]

I got up to the Casino floor and beat everybody except that lady who wants me to bet a card pack or something like that. I have no idea what she means and haven't bothered to look online to find out what because of the glitch thing

1) Go to a shop.
2) Buy a pack, any pack
3) Choose NOT to open it
4) It will then be placed in your inventory, and you can use it for Card Pack Bets.

You can keep playing through the first playthrough...the glitch is avoidable as long as you don't talk to John on the 9th floor at all. This only completely stops you on New Game+.
You can keep going and then have a friend hold your cards when you ship your cart back. Me, I only stopped playing for the moment because I have no one to trade with :sad:

[Sano]

1) Go to a shop.
2) Buy a pack, any pack
3) Choose NOT to open it
4) It will then be placed in your inventory, and you can use it for Card Pack Bets.



Is that what it means? I thought I had to fill my Saotome Card deck and put that up for trade, only five cards away! :rofl: Thanks!

Yeah I know you can still beat it but I just put it to the side to play other things, especially since I'm towards the end of EBA and MMZ2. Well, kind of at the end of EBA - after I beat that stage I unlock the female dancers and the final final stage. I... can't... look... at men... shaking their butts anymore... :looney:

[fjf314]

I'm glad I can finally mail my copy in for a replacement. I completely stopped playing the game once I heard about the glitch. I don't know anyone else around me who has the game, so my only incentive to play was to get the cards for the characters that I wanted... which would've been impossible to do without being able to do a New Game+.

[Return of Shiki]

Sigh...well, I decided to go back to the game, despite the fact I'm still planning on shipping it off. I figured I might as well beat the first playthrough.
It would be nice if they automatically transferred your data to the replacement cart but I seriously doubt they would go through the trouble. Still, if they do it'd be a pleasant surprise...

[fjf314]

It would be nice if they automatically transferred your data to the replacement cart but I seriously doubt they would go through the trouble. Still, if they do it'd be a pleasant surprise...

If that were the case, I would be mad that I stopped playing. I only had the game for a few days before they announced the glitch, so I was only on the 5th or 6th floor of the tower. Oh well. I actually just packaged up my copy to put in the mail tomorrow. On the plus side, this is one of the rare instances in which I've been able to get hyped about a game twice.

[Maj]

Is there a rip of the back of the cards? Like this ... (http://www.gsarchives.net/index2.php?category=all&system=neogeopocket&game=card_fighters_clash_snk_vs_capcom&type=sprites&level0=non-animated&level1=misc)

[Sano]

Sigh...well, I decided to go back to the game, despite the fact I'm still planning on shipping it off. I figured I might as well beat the first playthrough.
It would be nice if they automatically transferred your data to the replacement cart but I seriously doubt they would go through the trouble. Still, if they do it'd be a pleasant surprise...


Yeah my friend who I was gonna trade cards with isn't returning my calls... I'll give it another week or so and after that I'll send it in. But yeah I'm not gonna play much anymore and collect more cards I'll wind up giving up if that's what's gonna happen...

[Evil Morrigan]

I'm planning on picking this game up next week. How will I know which version is the good non-glitched version? Will it be on the packaging?

[Return of Shiki]

I'm planning on picking this game up next week. How will I know which version is the good non-glitched version? Will it be on the packaging?

Unfortunately I'd say any version of the game you find on store shelves is going to be glitched.

SNK Playmore is not going to ship the fixed copies of the game to retailers, and they are going to replace the carts that are registered and mailed to them via this address:

http://www.snkplaymoreusa.com/recall.php

My guess is that this is to minimize the financial losses they've already sustained because of the glitch.

[RockCho]

I thought "hentai" meant abnormal or some shit?

"Hen" by itself means abnormal.

[Evil Morrigan]

That sucks. I'll just go ahead and buy the game now and then mail it in for a replacement as soon as I get a chance.

Thanks for the heads up.

[Maj]

Is there a rip of the back of the cards? Like this ... (http://www.gsarchives.net/index2.php?category=all&system=neogeopocket&game=card_fighters_clash_snk_vs_capcom&type=sprites&level0=non-animated&level1=misc)

So, nothing?

[Sano]

Got in contact with my friend finally. So is it true that you have to trade cards to give someone your cards so they can hold on to him? Man that's no good... who's gonna bother trading for 52 cards individually one by one ack... not to mention the cards not in your pack as well.

[Return of Shiki]

Just mailed off my copy.

Over the weekend I went back to the game and got as far I could--beat the game and got to the 9th Floor before the glitch stopped me--so I'll let everyone know how long it takes for the replacement.

[fjf314]

I mailed my copy in on June 27th and I'm still waiting. Of course, I guess it's only been a week since they started shipping out replacements.

[R | C]

Mailed mine a week ago, still nothing.

[KrsJin]

Setsuna is apparently so dope, they posted his same card twice on the SNK side lol.

[Geddoe]

Just got my replacement back. Along with some KOF 2000-2001 trading cards. Team Fatal Fury, Ikari, Psycho Soldier, and team Benimaru.

Can't wait to get back into it.

[fjf314]

I got mine back last week sometime. :tup: The trading cards were a nice touch, too. I got Hero Team, Japan Team, Art of Fighting Team, and Psycho Soldier Team. I've actually been putting a decent amount of time into playing it ever since I got it back.

For anyone who made it decently far into the game (I'm only the 9th floor right now), is it easier to spend time earning money and buying up a lot of booster packs each time you reach a new floor with a shop, or should I just keep plowing ahead and worry about buying up lots of cards later on when better shops become available? Right now I'm just buying Capcom High and Basic packs from Natasha, but I'm debating if it's worth my time to keep fighting her over and over to get money for them.

[R | C]

Got mine back a week or two ago, completed the tower twice now.

I'm excited that I got the fixed copy to play with, but at the same time, now what? There's really nothing left to do.

fjf314:
For me, I just played through the game for the most part.

The only time couple of times that I stopped to lvl up the money is:

1. A bit when first starting out (to get those useful 400 bp cards that only requires 1 neutral force)

2. when they ask you to gather up certain cards before letting you proceed. At that point, I kept playing against the chick in the casino floor (I believe it's the 10th floor). You get 2000 per win.

[Sano]

I keep forgetting to mail this in, I'll try to remember to do it this week...

[fjf314]

At that point, I kept playing against the chick in the casino floor (I believe it's the 10th floor). You get 2000 per win.

That's a huge benefit, I just cleared the casino floor about an hour ago and already fought that girl a few times for cash. Kido has a shop on the floor right above that one, too, so I've been buying a few packs there. I'm generally just getting cards that I don't want/don't need, though, so I figure I'll just keep trying to cruise through the game and do a New Game+ so I can get some of the special cards that I actually want.

[KING]

this game is BUNK. it's all geared towards fast and efficient decks with cheap costs. i use a colorless deck, and it usually just rapes the other team by turn 2.

what's even MORE bunk is the dumb fact that the player with the first turn can potentially kill you on that same turn on a good draw.


the format of the old game was better, although there were some really cheap cards, as it's been stated.

[fjf314]

Yeah, the gameplay certainly leaves something to be desired. The game is all about cheap cards (1 or 2 force cost) with 400-500 HP and BP. I've actually been playing single color decks since it guarantees that you'll be able to get half-decent cards out quickly and usually bring the rape by the third turn. On top of that, the AI will often times just discard the majority of its starting hand to get force but leaving it no cards to play. Basically, killing off the first two or three cards the AI plays will all but guarantee that you win.

[Windlord0]

My friend and I had good games in the past by banning attacks in the second round (being the first round that you could normally have a chance of attacking). We never discussed about attacks in the first round though. (I had a red deck set up that with the proper draw I could play a bunch of cards, generate 10 red with mudman and then play this card (chick i think) that untaps everything on the field, and then I can have all the previous characters attack. Never got the proper draw, but it could happen).

When we did ban 2nd round attacks there was a much greater buildup of characters on the field and the games lasted a lot longer. It also let the player going 2nd a better chance of winning, and it removed the crazy power of red decks and low level uncolored decks.

[Return of Shiki]

I agree that some of the changes from the original CFC system were stupid, but I still believe the game could be played competitively with a couple of well-analyzed bans:

1) No attacking until the third turn
2) No playing more than 5 character cards in your field at any time
3) No multiple copies of the same card in your deck

Those 3 rules alone would fix the vast majority of the balance issues.
I don't know if any Character or (Re)Action cards specifically would also need to be banned, but I'd say Mudman, Talking Trash, and/or Game Over might have to be banned as well.

ON A MORE POSITIVE NOTE ABOUT THE GAME
Yes, there is finally some good news about the game:
The GameFAQs board has speculated that the replacement carts not only have the freeze glitch eliminated, but also have better tweaked AI and the translation cleaned up a bit.
Obviously, this improves the single player aspect of the game by a significant amount.

I've only scratched the surface of my replacement copy so far, but I'll try to verify these rumors before long...

[ramza]

game sucks

[KING]

^^ agreed. i'm playing Yugioh WC 2007 instead. a lot more mileage, and the AI is actually challenging.

[Geddoe]

I agree that some of the changes from the original CFC system were stupid, but I still believe the game could be played competitively with a couple of well-analyzed bans:

1) No attacking until the third turn
2) No playing more than 5 character cards in your field at any time
3) No multiple copies of the same card in your deck

Those 3 rules alone would fix the vast majority of the balance issues.
I don't know if any Character or (Re)Action cards specifically would also need to be banned, but I'd say Mudman, Talking Trash, and/or Game Over might have to be banned as well.


I don't see why the 5 character cards in the field rule needs to be made or the multiple copies rule. I think the better thing would be to play best of five matches, that way each player will have a chance to rape the other with no lube. The multiples only make a difference if you can attack asap to get the 400 hp cards out quick.

One of the benefits of two player mode is that you get 3000 life points, which gives a little more wiggle room.

Also, I don't think the AI was tweaked. An enemy beat me down to 400 hp yesterday, and then just stopped attacking until I had some cards ready to defend. Very sportsman like, but it cost the AI the match.

[fjf314]

Also, I don't think the AI was tweaked. An enemy beat me down to 400 hp yesterday, and then just stopped attacking until I had some cards ready to defend. Very sportsman like, but it cost the AI the match.

I'm not so sure about this, either. I was playing the other day and the AI actually had the advantage on me because I was trying to watch TV and play the game at the same time. The AI had landed a few attacks and taken me down to about 700 HP. It had three cards out and I had two. Then the AI decided to play an action card that gave 300 damage to every card in play. It killed one of my cards but it also killed off all three of its own. :confused: After that it never managed to put another card into play because it burned up all of its force playing that action card. :rofl:

I do think the translation has been cleaned up a little bit, though. I just haven't noticed as many problems with it as I did when playing my original copy.

[Sano]

Finally got around to sending my copy back today, lazy ass lol!

I also sent back the third disc of the recent Captain N DVD set because there was a problem with all of the third discs of every set so they are doing a similar recall like SNKP is.

So today is the day I sent back stuff that had Capcom characters in it to be replaced. :rofl: Would be hella funny if I got both back on the same exact day lol!

Joking around but seriously, big up to SNKP and Shout! Factory for doing this. :tup:

[Windlord0]

I finally got a chance to play my new copy for a while and it is good. No glitch and the AI has to be better. I have had several rounds now that I had to slow down and think about a long term course of actions, that never happened on my play through of the glitched game.

I haven't gotten a chance to play any other people yet, but I stand by my thought that no attacks first/second rounds is enough to balance out the game a bit.

So who's up for Card Fighters at evo world?:wgrin:

[Return of Shiki]

Actually I don't think the AI is hardly any better.

It still does braindead stuff like rush you even when all of their characters attacks won't beat you but a full counterattack will kill them.
The single DUMBEST thing the CPU has done yet in my fixed copy is using Takuma's ability even though the only characters it powered up were MY characters (like...4 of them). Naturally, I won on the next turn.
It DOES seem to use Action Cards somewhat better, though I still have yet to see the CPU in EITHER copy of the game use Reaction cards though.

HOWEVER, the translation has been cleaned up significantly. It's not fixed 100%, mind you, there are still some misspellings BUT a lot of the card descriptions were fixed (ex: Sword Lord Slash now CORRECTLY states it does 300 damage, not 100) and most of the text cleaned up (originally some of the card text was sloppy and mashed together).
This I regard as a significant improvement...at least the few typos left are only in the dialogue...not the text that really matters, like card power and ability descriptions.

[fjf314]

I'm going crazy in this game right now. I need to trade Ukyo, Bass, and Thrasher to Yui in order to get to the next floor. I'm going through the Capcom side so I was able to buy a bunch of packs for Bass and Thrasher. Ukyo is turning out to be a pain in the ass, though, since my only way to get SNK cards is to do pack battles against Gina on the Vegas floor. I'm afraid to think of how many times I fought her today alone without getting the card I needed. I wished there was at least some way I could get her to consistently put up SNK packs. It sucks when I start the fight and see that she's putting up a Capcom pack or a Support pack.

[Windlord0]

I'm going crazy in this game right now. I need to trade Ukyo, Bass, and Thrasher to Yui in order to get to the next floor. I'm going through the Capcom side so I was able to buy a bunch of packs for Bass and Thrasher. Ukyo is turning out to be a pain in the ass, though, since my only way to get SNK cards is to do pack battles against Gina on the Vegas floor. I'm afraid to think of how many times I fought her today alone without getting the card I needed. I wished there was at least some way I could get her to consistently put up SNK packs. It sucks when I start the fight and see that she's putting up a Capcom pack or a Support pack.

The cards you need to give to someone you can get by trading with the four people on the last trading floor. I went up the SNK side, but I got my cards by trading through cycles on the trading floor. Most NPCs will trade you a card that another NPC will want for another trade and I just kept going until I had all I needed.

[fjf314]

... I somehow didn't think of that. Well, at least I got a lot of cards today by doing 4 hours of pack battles, haha. Thanks for the heads up, now I don't have to do the same thing tomorrow. I remembered that when I needed Hayate, someone just handed it over when I talked to them. When that didn't happen with any of these three I just assumed I had to do things the hard way. My thinking for the loss.

[Sano]

Finally got around to sending my copy back today, lazy ass lol!

I also sent back the third disc of the recent Captain N DVD set because there was a problem with all of the third discs of every set so they are doing a similar recall like SNKP is.

So today is the day I sent back stuff that had Capcom characters in it to be replaced. :rofl: Would be hella funny if I got both back on the same exact day lol!

Joking around but seriously, big up to SNKP and Shout! Factory for doing this. :tup:

Progress report that no one cares about - I got my third DVD of Captain N back today! Still haven't gotten back my SVC DS cart. So on the Capcom side of things, green out of character Megaman and Dr. Wily win! :rofl:

[Sano]

My SVC replacement cart came in today, not bad and not a long wait! :clap:

[fjf314]

While I haven't been playing the game all that much lately, I still haven't gotten that damn Ukyo card yet. I tried trading with the people on the closest trading floor, but it seems like I'm just going in an endless loop with them. Eventually they just start asking for cards that I've already traded with them and no one is coughing up Ukyo. I think this has killed some of my incentive to play the game. :sweat:

[Windlord0]

While I haven't been playing the game all that much lately, I still haven't gotten that damn Ukyo card yet. I tried trading with the people on the closest trading floor, but it seems like I'm just going in an endless loop with them. Eventually they just start asking for cards that I've already traded with them and no one is coughing up Ukyo. I think this has killed some of my incentive to play the game. :sweat:

I got some of what I wanted from them, but I wasn't looking for Ukyo either. The SNK side has easier trade requirements for trades. You can try just buying a whole ton of the low level kido packs also, they give a balance of low level cards from either side.

from the gameFAQs guide about what you'll see. I don't agree with this all, but it must have worked.
There are three (annoying) card quests in the game:
a) SNK "Hayate": Go to the floor below and get it from the german guy.
Or, you can trade in the 5th floor until you get it.
b-1) SNK "Leona", SNK "Janne", SNK "O.Shermie": two of them are Rarity C,
so abuse the Basic Packs. For O.Shermie, maybe Middle Packs will do.
b-2) SNK "Ukyo", CAP "Thrasher", CAP "Bass" : if you can't buy Middle Snk
Packs, do Pack Battles with Gina (10F) to get Ukyo. For the other
ones, abuse the Basic Packs.
c-1) SNK "Kasumi", SNK "Hibiki", CAP "Ton Pooh", SNK "Malin",
CAP "Morrigan (L.V.)": abuse the Basic Packs for the Rarity C and D
cards. Again, to get Kasumi use Middle Packs.
c-2) CAP "M.Edgeworth", CAP "Protoman", SNK "Robert Garcia",
CAP "Dee Jay", CAP "Guile": mostly Rarity B cards, so try your luck
with Middle Packs.

[Geddoe]

Battle Mode's 10 or 20 battles a character to unlock new cards takes forever. Though nothing beats putting Morrigan Aensland or Chun Li out on the first round with a little help from Elizabeth or whatever her name is.

[fjf314]

from the gameFAQs guide about what you'll see. I don't agree with this all, but it must have worked.

Yeah, I read that FAQ, too. I did more of those Pack Battles than I care to think about and I never got the Ukyo card I needed. It seemed like a complete waste because half the time you weren't even playing for an SNK pack. Eventually I just started buying a load of Scratch cards and I managed to get Ukyo the other day. On the plus side, after all of the packs and Scratch cards I bought, my deck is pretty loaded right now and I'm back to cruising through most of the fights. :sweat: