I got hit with... what?! o.O?!

[eiSH]

In an effort to ease the headaches caused by noob tactics, I'd like to gather up - with your help - all the :wtf: tactics you've been hit with so we can all share in a few laughs :tup:

I'll start off by naming a couple:

The patented whiff throw -> throw
The psych-out jump over nothing -> immediate super

[Alacard617]

Spamming jumping straight up while u wake up, block the jump kick, they jump again, empty, then SA art in ya face.

[Troyboy's Back!]

This is Third Strike....Every Tactic is :wtf:

[Figcoinc]

One time lag freezed up the game. Though it's supposed to be for both people, not ME ONE TIME!!

I froze just when the game started.....about 10 seconds later my guy pops on the other side of screen while the guy playing ryu throws one last fireball to finish me off.

I was like....ok....that was not fun and odd.

[KrsJin]

Empty jump supers lol... Only online.

[Shadowstep]

In an effort to ease the headaches caused by noob tactics, I'd like to gather up - with your help - all the :wtf: tactics you've been hit with so we can all share in a few laughs :tup:

I'll start off by naming a couple:

The patented whiff throw -> throw
The psych-out jump over nothing -> immediate super

This ish is funny cause it's true, you know that we try to grab so that why I warp away from it.

Here is one, standing right outside trippin area then :d: :hk: you then they do it again

[Shinshay]

One guy does standing fp. into MGB with dudley. :confused:.

[Chachi]

Artistic Rage special:rofl:Beat me to it. If he misses with it, he complains that you were turtling. I need to introduce him to some Omaha players if I ever have an offline gathering again.

[Shin Touyokouzan]

This is Third Strike....Every Tactic is :wtf:

The truth

[Waggs313]

VAMPIRO i love you but you did this yesterday.

Ken SA3 blocked -> SA3

Come on. I was shocked, my jaw just dropped.

Im sure i did some things like that too so just name them.

[Mechanica]

- Blocked Shippu into EX Shoryu. You know that shit only works online. Sometimes people do jab shoryu.

- MK headstomp, mk headstomp, lk headstomp, mk headstomp...

- Mashing the fuck out of supers when you have them in a block/poke string. It's always the best when I see the super flash but I'm already 9/10s of the way to s.hk-ing them in the face, so it's like SUPER FLASH then they just get kicked in the fucking face. Eat shit, Akuma scrubs!

- On the note of Akuma scrubs, I could fill this topic. Slightest delay in a match usually leads to some c.mk, mk tatsu, hk tatsu, mk tatsu, then there's a nice little lag spike and they throw you. Also, I recently had someone throwing 3-hit fireballs from fullscreen, right? So I parry the first two hits and he does his super, also full screen. I'm still in parry animation, so I hold back, to block... Then it [i]all[i] hits me. What the fuck is this? It happened like 3 times. The super flash makes it unblockable if you're parrying?

[V4MPIRO]

- Blocked Shippu into EX Shoryu. You know that shit only works online. Sometimes people do jab shoryu.

- MK headstomp, mk headstomp, lk headstomp, mk headstomp...

- Mashing the fuck out of supers when you have them in a block/poke string. It's always the best when I see the super flash but I'm already 9/10s of the way to s.hk-ing them in the face, so it's like SUPER FLASH then they just get kicked in the fucking face. Eat shit, Akuma scrubs!

- On the note of Akuma scrubs, I could fill this topic. Slightest delay in a match usually leads to some c.mk, mk tatsu, hk tatsu, mk tatsu, then there's a nice little lag spike and they throw you. Also, I recently had someone throwing 3-hit fireballs from fullscreen, right? So I parry the first two hits and he does his super, also full screen. I'm still in parry animation, so I hold back, to block... Then it [i]all[i] hits me. What the fuck is this? It happened like 3 times. The super flash makes it unblockable if you're parrying?
Are we talking about the same player?:lol:
VAMPIRO i love you but you did this yesterday.

Ken SA3 blocked -> SA3

Come on. I was shocked, my jaw just dropped.

Im sure i did some things like that too so just name them.
I've seen that off line too.:lol:

[Shin Touyokouzan]

I've seen that off line too.:lol:

Yeah but it doesnt work.....

[Projectjustice]

Blocked Ken's SA3 --> EX-Shoryuken. Jesus H Christ that shit sets me on fire.

[Mechanica]

Are we talking about the same player?:lol:

I don't know, it's possible. :lol: I wasn't really keeping one player in mind, except for the 3-hit fireball part, and I don't even remember who kept doing that.

[said3s]

- Blocked Shippu into EX Shoryu. You know that shit only works online. Sometimes people do jab shoryu.

- MK headstomp, mk headstomp, lk headstomp, mk headstomp...


LOL! LingLing and FinestIce. I fuckin hate that shit. Those two guys have no idea how badly they suck at this game. I would give anything to play people like those two in a lagless setting.

There are a million things you could talk about in this thread. Overall, it's a completely different game that you have to play with the people online. Only about 5-10% of the people online play how this game is supposed to be played (parry traps, zoning, poking, throw setups, super confirmations, etc) and even then that percentage drops a lil more when that 5-10% of "good players" begin to get their asses kicked. Then they start playing like everyone else.

In particular, i hate the people who seem to slam their ENTIRE HAND on the pad/stick whenever you get even REMOTELY close to them. All those players who constantly mash on the lk or lp buttons whenever they get pressured or whenever anyone gets close. C'mon, that shit is retarded. I understand the occasional necessity to throw out a cr. lk or cr. lp to keep out a throw attempt or sumthing but to just throw it out or to hit is repeatedly for no reason is SO STUPID!

Nice thread eiSH.

Edit: O yeah, i almost forgot. The people who will constantly input the motion of a special or super when they know they might be hit by a string of moves. It's gay cuz (when mixed with the occasional lag spike) all the moves in ur normal, everyday combo MIGHT NOT CONNECT. So what happens next? Super in the face. It's gay cuz it looks like they pulled it out in the middle of your combo. That shit makes me pull my hair out.

Similar to those people are the ones who do the same thing after a missed move. You go in to punish their move for free damage, right? WRONG! Super in the face! Gay shit, people... Gay shit. Only online.

[DevilJin 01]

Blocked Ken's SA3 --> EX-Shoryuken. Jesus H Christ that shit sets me on fire.

LITERALLY. :lol:

[Captain Ryu]

Wakeup aegis reflect :confused:

Empty jump super :confused: Alucard you know that was one of your main tricks with sa2 ryu :rofl:

UOH x 13 mixed with low anything :confused:

The hold dat special Jump mk, cr mk, dp, sa3 all while I'm blocking :confused: lol hold dat, get a stick.

full screen urien tackles :confused:

Alex stomp into stungun headbut super :confused:

Akuma hurricane kick x 97 :confused:

Jumpkick (that actually hits) raging demon? :confused: Wtf?

Those are a few things but I don't get hit by everything there. It only works when it's lagging.

Oh I got more!

Sweep, Sweep walk in throw.

Dash in DP (hold dat lol) well he used to do it anyway.

[Shin Touyokouzan]

your forgetting the horrid full screen denjin

feirce SRK to feirce SRK

to name a few

[hold dat]

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE...

The hold dat special Jump mk, cr mk, dp, sa3 all while I'm blocking :confused: lol hold dat, get a stick.

old school phrase alert****
old school phrase alert****


"that shit is butta"


:wgrin:

[Captain Ryu]

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE...

The hold dat special Jump mk, cr mk, dp, sa3 all while I'm blocking :confused: lol hold dat, get a stick.

old school phrase alert****
old school phrase alert****


"that shit is butta"


:wgrin:

lol you know i like fuckin with you hold dat :rofl:

[Mechanica]

I just got hit by a million and one air hurricane kicks in a spontaneously laggy set. Holy fuck I hate Live Akuma.

[Shin Touyokouzan]

wait a min. dont forget everything makoto does online. makoto is a lag tactic lol

[Chachi]

I wonder if there's a thread like this for Live #Reload.

[Captain Ryu]

I wonder if there's a thread like this for Live #Reload.

I used to use lag chipp. Run in and throw a few pokes then do that teleport leaf move throw thing lol. People used to get pissed.

[DevilJin 01]

Anybody who does anything with Ibuki online. :rolleyes:

[eiSH]

Hugo: Jab Jab Jab whenever you get close, then wakeup 360 or 720. I forget who does this, I think Roloblaze, but I can't remember. Basically all scrubby Hugos play this way, and it boggles my mind how people think mashing 360 or spamming jabs take skill. :wtf:

[shoni]

the constant jump over super's and laggy wakeup shoryu's and ex shoryu's in hate live

[XEN MASTER MARK]

Bullshit stun rushdown with either Ibuki, Alex or Makoto. That crap is free on Live :tdown:

Same with repeated J.HK or splash with Hugo, when t'other dude realizes he's getting served. Every knows those moves are impossible to parry offline and using them repeatedly is totally legitimate ..right? :confused:

[Projectjustice]

LITERALLY. :lol:


LOL:rofl: You know the scrub on the other side of the TV is saying to himself,

"YOU CANT ATTACK ME AFTER A BLOCKED SA3, COME ON DUDE"!!!!

:annoy:

[sidewinder]

Hugo: Jab Jab Jab whenever you get close, then wakeup 360 or 720. I forget who does this, I think Roloblaze, but I can't remember. Basically all scrubby Hugos play this way, and it boggles my mind how people think mashing 360 or spamming jabs take skill. :wtf:

i'm gonna have to disagree with you bro...jabs work wonders against makoto they keep her at distance, you dont want her in your face... and 360 or 720 on wake-up is just another tool to keep people away from you... that's all, but yeah it can be abusive too....that's my 2 cents...

[Mechanica]

Hugo: Jab Jab Jab whenever you get close, then wakeup 360 or 720. I forget who does this, I think Roloblaze, but I can't remember. Basically all scrubby Hugos play this way, and it boggles my mind how people think mashing 360 or spamming jabs take skill. :wtf:

What makes you think that they think it takes skill? They just want to win.

[LakeEarth]

I love to connect Gigas in creative ways, walk-in, standing, whatever works, but sometimes when the guy just stands there when I'm waking up you can't just let that fly. "You shouldn't have been standing there."

Makoto tactic - jump mk, jump mk, dash throw. Its my fault for letting that hit me but the lag isn't helping.

[DevilJin 01]

What makes you think that they think it takes skill? They just want to win.

Yeah...I'm sure they could give two hoots about how skillful whatever they're doing is. They just do what gives them the W against everyone else and as long as it works once in a while they're gonna do it every time.

[Waggs313]

Amateur Akuma players.

[Alacard617]

Wakeup aegis reflect :confused:

Empty jump super :confused: Alucard you know that was one of your main tricks with sa2 ryu :rofl:

UOH x 13 mixed with low anything :confused:

The hold dat special Jump mk, cr mk, dp, sa3 all while I'm blocking :confused: lol hold dat, get a stick.

full screen urien tackles :confused:

Alex stomp into stungun headbut super :confused:

Akuma hurricane kick x 97 :confused:

Jumpkick (that actually hits) raging demon? :confused: Wtf?

Those are a few things but I don't get hit by everything there. It only works when it's lagging.

Oh I got more!

Sweep, Sweep walk in throw.

Dash in DP (hold dat lol) well he used to do it anyway.

Alucard must like doing that joint. to bad Alacard learned how they can backfire against him, nearly over a year ago. :rofl:


Its also funny how, a blocked s.MK or l.MK get blocked, then a SA3 come out, and it connects! i also liked when some ones Purple ken would do a short SRK, then asap when they land, would throw out a SA3 before i can react to punish em! :rofl:

[Captain Ryu]

Alucard must like doing that joint. to bad Alacard learned how they can backfire against him, nearly over a year ago. :rofl:


Its also funny how, a blocked s.MK or l.MK get blocked, then a SA3 come out, and it connects! i also liked when some ones Purple ken would do a short SRK, then asap when they land, would throw out a SA3 before i can react to punish em! :rofl:

My bad, I forgot it was alacard. Btw that's why I said it WAS one of your tricks. I'm sure you don't do it anymore after playing for a while. That shit gets you hurt.

[Alacard617]

My bad, I forgot it was alacard. Btw that's why I said it WAS one of your tricks. I'm sure you don't do it anymore after playing for a while. That shit gets you hurt.

oh hell yea it does. thats the SA i use the least now too. depends on the person's style i am facing.

[Shadowstep]

How about throw -> dash out, dash in -> throw then sweep...UOH super

or Alcard617 parrying everything then kill you!!!

[Alacard617]

Sorry Shadowstep. :rofl:

[Shinshay]

getting hit with wake up cr. mk -> shippu while I have them cornered. :rofl:

People saying that they can see cr. mk -> shippu after I get hit with it like 3 times in a set even though I blocked it 4 more times later :confused:.

dash up mk or fp with Ryu into mk sidekick after I'm waking up. :sad:

me waking up into a cr. mk, mp dp, -> shippu or just cr. mk -> shippu.

dying to hugo cr. rh. :rofl:

[ROCKMAN]

you can't do mind games on any online hugo.. all the idiots spin the stick when u do a jump attack.sandybags for example i just jump 4 times up and he still try to do the 360..skill my ass...i never seen hugos jump like the do here i wonder why:confused:

getting hit with wake up cr. mk -> shippu while I have them cornered. :rofl:

me waking up into a cr. mk, mp dp, -> shippu or just cr. mk -> shippu.

dying to hugo cr. rh. :rofl: i get hit by that bullshit too and this comes from people with "a,s,ss" grades too:wow:

ken playes that do cross up into a cross and repeat over and over:confused:

you know the player is a scrub if they pick"PURPLE KEN" they don't have to pick a sa1 or 2 i know they suck from the gecko

[Silks]

I had a nice fellow start doing that two-hit jump fierce(?) on the way down, land, jump fierce on the way up, with Ibuki against my Hugo. When I finally got a good double parry, I miss my gigas attempt. yay.

The best two by far are the empty jump into super arts and spamming supers during strings of non-combo moves (especially slow startup, vunerable supers haha). Though, I must say, one of my buddies offline throws constantly when he thinks he has the oppurtunity. So I've purposely jumped over him, landed, and did Q's SA1 and told him to stop throwing :) But that's a special situation where you know the other player really well.

And yeah, online ibuki and makoto hurt my heart :arazz:

Programmable pads

[Shinshay]

Speaking of programmable pads...I know two players on live that have programmable controllers. One through word of mouth and the other through my experience against them online... OH SHIT, whoever could I be talking about.

[Silks]

Speaking of programmable pads...I know two players on live that have programmable controllers. One through word of mouth and the other through my experience against them online... OH SHIT, whoever could I be talking about.

Does he do standing 720s with an inhumanly high rate of accuracy?

[eiSH]

...and spamming supers during strings of non-combo moves (especially slow startup, vunerable supers haha)...Makoto: c.Short -> Jab Hayate (50/50 situation) s.Short -> Counter Super Chop. :annoy:

[Zerogunner]

The funny thing about all this is the fact that people just fuck up. It's a natural reaction when your opponent does an attack and you try to hit them back (if you feel or think like you can). I'm not saying this applys to every situation but it does to a lot of them. People want to counter poke, throw when they're close or super when the opponent trys to reverse.

But the worse thing that bothers me is:

The accidental parry when they try to do a move and you get punished for it. Like for example:

1) They press forward to throw and you counter poke. They get the parry and the throw. Some people have perfected this art though.

2) They decide to upper cut (F,D,F) an attack. Since the first motion is forward, they get the parry and the uppercut.

3) When they dash at you and you swing at them. They see the attack and pull down back to block and get the parry by accident.

These are the type of things that make you question their ability. Are they really good or was it a fluke? All of the things you mentioned before are mistakes a person makes during a match (timing isn't on hit). I know the lag is a factor but can't always blame it on that. I only hate it when they pull some shit they didn't mean.

[Waggs313]

i'm gonna have to disagree with you bro...jabs work wonders against makoto they keep her at distance, you dont want her in your face... and 360 or 720 on wake-up is just another tool to keep people away from you... that's all, but yeah it can be abusive too....that's my 2 cents...


When you jump in or get parried and the lag abuser sandybags does a standing 720. Psh spammer.

Jk i love you.

[Shinshay]

Zerogunner: the first one is called option parry :tup:

the second one can be delayed into dp. So I'm not sure if its all too random.

Lastly, if they dash at you and you attack them low but they manage to get the parry, that just means you were too slow to attack there dash.

But then again, these are all online so who knows :rofl:

[Mechanica]

you know the player is a scrub if they pick"PURPLE KEN" they don't have to pick a sa1 or 2 i know they suck from the gecko
LOL, yeah! They just hit the A button. It's the best when it's purple SA1 Ken because you know they just went to Ken and hit the A button a bunch, and they don't know anything about the game. :lol:

Makoto: c.Short -> Jab Hayate (50/50 situation) s.Short -> Counter Super Chop. :annoy:

Hahaha, that's almost a viable tactic because I've never played a Makoto that didn't attack right after that. It's always c.lk, hayate, then that again, or something into the chop, or karakusa. I know what you mean though, it's a good example. :lol:

[sidewinder]

you can't do mind games on any online hugo.. all the idiots spin the stick when u do a jump attack.sandybags for example i just jump 4 times up and he still try to do the 360..skill my ass...i never seen hugos jump like the do here i wonder why:confused:

i get hit by that bullshit too and this comes from people with "a,s,ss" grades too:wow:

ken playes that do cross up into a cross and repeat over and over:confused:

you know the player is a scrub if they pick"PURPLE KEN" they don't have to pick a sa1 or 2 i know they suck from the gecko

of course you can do mind games with HUGO online...but for scrubs like you no mind game required at all.....but it's all good, just let me know when you're ready for another beat-down... and stop drinking that fucking HATERADE...

[KStella55]

Playing Remy and somehow getting hit by his continous divekicks, and Alex's air stomp.

[Shinshay]

of course you can do mind games with HUGO online...but for scrubs like you no mind game required at all.....but it's all good, just let me know when you're ready for another beat-down... and stop drinking that fucking HATERADE...


Hmmm, rockman I think that you need to backup your words since this Maine Bamma coming down on you. You supposed to be MD/VA, you better rep fool.

[DARKHOKAGE]

I love to connect Gigas in creative ways, walk-in, standing, whatever works, but sometimes when the guy just stands there when I'm waking up you can't just let that fly. "You shouldn't have been standing there."

Makoto tactic - jump mk, jump mk, dash throw. Its my fault for letting that hit me but the lag isn't helping.


thats a scrub tactic. you'll NEVER see me do bullshit like that and i play makoto

[sidewinder]

Hmmm, rockman I think that you need to backup your words since this Maine Bamma coming down on you. You supposed to be MD/VA, you better rep fool.

sorry.. bro but he can back his shit -up.. all he does is runs his piss-lips all the time..tipical hater

[DARKHOKAGE]

wait a min. dont forget everything makoto does online. makoto is a lag tactic lol


HEY!!! i resent that! lol

[Shinshay]

sorry.. bro but he can back his shit -up.. all he does is runs his piss-lips all the time..tipical hater

ouch. :rofl: I see the match of the century coming in the near future.

[Mechanica]

LOL Rockman always gives off weird vibes, or as weird as they can be from just playing street fighter. Like playing just a few matches, then quitting to create a new (open) match, but sending me an FR. :confused: I didn't know how to take that. :lol:

[Zerogunner]

Zerogunner: the first one is called option parry :tup:

the second one can be delayed into dp. So I'm not sure if its all too random.

Lastly, if they dash at you and you attack them low but they manage to get the parry, that just means you were too slow to attack there dash.

But then again, these are all online so who knows :rofl:

I wouldn't miss a counter on a dash. It's the online parry buffer.

The second one I'm talking about is a late shoryu attempt. Meaning their timing is off.

[Mechanica]

Oh hey, here's one I got hit with at least 4 times so far today (I've only been up for 3 hours, too.)

Jump, whiff j.hk or j.hp, then shoryu when you land. Fuckin' A! :bluu:

[HarmoNaz]

This thread should be where we all post before we finally do the smart thing like Sabre and Alex Valle.

Stop playing live altogether.

The thing that Mechanica described is one of the worst lag tactics I come across. Because OFFLINE, I would (dunno what other players would do) hit the person BEFORE they land - so there's no option of playing throw/shoryu/super mind games when they land.

Anyways, I only have long sets with people that play the whole 'bait, whiff, punish' game. Though there is more to 3s than that, its hard to use that stuff online.

The only exception where I am honestly clueless is Makoto. She owns me online and offline. I'm not entirely sure what would be considered lag tactics with her. jump mk, jump mk, karakusa or dash throw - as much as I would like to call it a lag tactic - I have seen that shit being done offline too. Having an offline all night session with one of Japan's top Makoto players probably put this fear into me :xeye:

[DevilJin 01]

Oh hey, here's one I got hit with at least 4 times so far today (I've only been up for 3 hours, too.)

Jump, whiff j.hk or j.hp, then shoryu when you land. Fuckin' A! :bluu:

That's actually a decent tactic if not abused.

[Mechanica]

That's actually a decent tactic if not abused.

Not when you can tell it's like "Oh fuck! I didn't wait to see if he was actually in the air before I did j.hk! Better spam dp!!!"

Seriously. When I mean whiff j.hk, I mean before, or at the peak of their jump. That's NEVER a good tactic.

[Shin Touyokouzan]

This thread should be stickied lol

[Shinshay]

This thread should be where we all post before we finally do the smart thing like Sabre and Alex Valle.

Stop playing live altogether.


Agreed bro, but would you believe that this is the only practice I get before tourneys :smile:.

[hold dat]

Agreed bro, but would you believe that this is the only practice I get before tourneys :smile:.

and that never ceases to amaze me amigo

come to NY for a power boost!!!!!


on a side note...how come i've never been hit with the shit you guys listed? maybe cause its me doing the random shit most of the time...sorry guys. lol

[HarmoNaz]

Agreed bro, but would you believe that this is the only practice I get before tourneys :smile:.Yes I do, as its the same case with me. As its probably the same case with 90% of the decent players on live. The reason I didn't suggest we all quit now is because we just CANT. I've got a massive tourney this weekend and I've played nothing but live for the last month. Maybe at some point I'll go into training mode and get my offline timings back, but still - overall it isn't good for us anymore.

[ROCKMAN]

of course you can do mind games with HUGO online...but for scrubs like you no mind game required at all.....but it's all good, just let me know when you're ready for another beat-down... and stop drinking that fucking HATERADE...

shin you can ask kimicks we both raped this tool.Although he 720 erics raging demon of sweep away "ON REACTION" and crapybags You do remember that you got raped you that one set, Jesus doesn't take a jenious that you abuse stupid splash jumps and c.foward since they are not parryable:rolleyes: you won like 2 of like 9 matches so please STFU.. and I said "MIND GAMES **ON*** HUGO YOU RETARD!!" learn to read

eric we gotta get some sets in b4 the feb tourney.. for somereason i can't find ya on aim did u change it??

LOL Rockman always gives off weird vibes, or as weird as they can be from just playing street fighter. Like playing just a few matches, then quitting to create a new (open) match, but sending me an FR. :confused: I didn't know how to take that. :lol: well if the connection is ass i just leave after a few.So i send request to play another time.You do live in the west coast! is not like your in md or s.c:confused: but i decided if i play people with shitty connections i'll just pick ken that way i don't have to worry about tons of bullshit people get away with.

[eiSH]

I'm going to start playing Purple Ken to throw a monkey wrench into this theory.Oh hey, here's one I got hit with at least 4 times so far today (I've only been up for 3 hours, too.)

Jump, whiff j.hk or j.hp, then shoryu when you land. Fuckin' A! :bluu::annoy: That shit gets me all the time, seriously like :wtf:

[ROCKMAN]

i got hit like 5 of 6 times by a block..hurricane kick i try to counter but live doesn't let me.some dude dazz altoid something.Some what of a scrub i would say he parries ok but wtf with the dash hurricane kicks?? not mind games??

[R.P.D rookie]

Interesting thread!


I've come across a few players that may have been using programed pads. Being able to do moves that required directional input commands and yet the character remains motionless except for the move happening makes me feel iffy. Only the computer is capable of doing that. Maybe I'm wrong. I played a Ryu player on xbl like this: I'd go for a dash punch that was oh so cleverly tucked inside some back and forth footsies and the punch gets right to his face and BAM! "shoryuken!" out of nowhere. I mean it got to a point where Ryu just stopped and sat in one spot I guess to taunt me and when I'd get close enough to get hit, there it was, an instant dragon punch.

[Master Rift]

If Only the 3s Live System was set up like SF2-HF Live system. comin on topic

Air Gou-dou-ken with akuma,
One of my very own ( Dash sa3 with alex, has never failed me)
Chun's poke strings are all lag tactics
Lets not for Oro the king of lag and Mokoto the queen of lag

and last that Fucking Hugo.....I dont play him unless i have alex

[Captain Ryu]

ouch. :rofl: I see the match of the century coming in the near future.

I don't know if you guys read what rockman said wrong but I read "you can't do mind games on scrubby online Hugo's" not "Hugo has no mind games online".

Anyway you can't really use mind games on any scrubby player regardless of what character they use unless you consider waiting for them to do something retarded and then punish a mind game :rofl:. Just stick to the basics for the win.


Edit

Oh nm I just read rockmans 2nd post.

[eiSH]

Anyway you can't really use mind games on any scrubby player regardless of what character they use...Signed.

[Zerogunner]

You can do mind games with any character. Depending on what you base your game around. Parry or throw. Feints to get them to parry or fake the throw to combo.

[HarmoNaz]

I played in the arcade today, and I swear one of the peeps who played me today MUST be an XBL head who didn't want to introduce himself or something...

Whiff jump kick, land shoryu. EX shoryu actually. Did it get me even ONCE?? Nope. mashing on pokes high low high low - did it get him far? Nope. Spamming HK sweep when in doubt? He actually looked surprised when I punished him every single time. The most fun part was his endless attempts to cross me which simply ended in disaster for him. This was the closest I've come to playing against a 'lag abusive' style
offline...

He beat me ONCE. I beat him 15 times. After every loss he would look real frustrated which funnily wasn't the case when he lost to other players. I can't stop thinking this guy thought he could get more wins on me because he probably got wins on me on XBL.

The last thing which made me think that he's an XBL head is that whenever he would whiff his random lp shoryu, you could hear him moving the stick to get the second one out. Whenever I punished the first one, you could hear him cursing under his breath. Once I didn't punish him - lo and behold - lp dragon #2 comes out :clap:

[Zerogunner]

I played in the arcade today, and I swear one of the peeps who played me today MUST be an XBL head who didn't want to introduce himself or something...

Whiff jump kick, land shoryu. EX shoryu actually. Did it get me even ONCE?? Nope. mashing on pokes high low high low - did it get him far? Nope. Spamming HK sweep when in doubt? He actually looked surprised when I punished him every single time. The most fun part was his endless attempts to cross me which simply ended in disaster for him. This was the closest I've come to playing against a 'lag abusive' style
offline...

He beat me ONCE. I beat him 15 times. After every loss he would look real frustrated which funnily wasn't the case when he lost to other players. I can't stop thinking this guy thought he could get more wins on me because he probably got wins on me on XBL.

The last thing which made me think that he's an XBL head is that whenever he would whiff his random lp shoryu, you could hear him moving the stick to get the second one out. Whenever I punished the first one, you could hear him cursing under his breath. Once I didn't punish him - lo and behold - lp dragon #2 comes out :clap:

It's funny to hear that he was frustrated. I was a arcade player first before playing on XBL and transitioning from offline to online wasn't bad. But when I tried to get the offline timing back, It was tough. I'm sure all the things he tried with you didn't work because of the timing. Plus the xbox isn't a perfect port either. Not saying your not good but give the XBL time to adjust and they'll give you a challenge.

[HarmoNaz]

No point debating because I know all the good tournament players would agree with me anyway. Only question I have is - how could he modify the timings on the tactics I just described?

He whiffs a jump in and lands into dragon which I block. Second time he tried it I hit him out before he even landed - something which is well nigh impossible on XBL unless the connection is very good. How could he change the timing on something like that to work against me?

Lets not even get started on the random and double srks :rofl:

Lets not start period. I was just venting my 'frustrated relief' at being able to kick the shit out of tactics that own me on XBL :rock:

[Zerogunner]

No point debating because I know all the good tournament players would agree with me anyway. Only question I have is - how could he modify the timings on the tactics I just described?

He whiffs a jump in and lands into dragon which I block. Second time he tried it I hit him out before he even landed - something which is well nigh impossible on XBL unless the connection is very good. How could he change the timing on something like that to work against me?

Lets not even get started on the random and double srks :rofl:

Lets not start period. I was just venting my 'frustrated relief' at being able to kick the shit out of tactics that own me on XBL :rock:

I'm not talking about those tactics. I'm talking about the timing of the game. He probably doesn't feel as comfortable as you or I in an offline enviroment. Players need to adjust. Good Players adapt quickly. He's probably not a good player if you beat him 15 times in a row. But like I said, give a person some time and they'll grow...

[Mechanica]

I'm not talking about those tactics. I'm talking about the timing of the game. He probably doesn't feel as comfortable as you or I in an offline enviroment. Players need to adjust. Good Players adapt quickly. He's probably not a good player if you beat him 15 times in a row. But like I said, give a person some time and they'll grow...

I don't know, most scrubs who are scrubs at heart never really improve.

[Zerogunner]

I don't know, most scrubs who are scrubs at heart never really improve.

Practice makes perfect.

[Mechanica]

I'm not saying low skilled players don't improve, I mean scrubby ass scrubs who even act like scrubbier than they play. Those kind of scrubs. They never seem to improve.

[Zerogunner]

I'm not saying low skilled players don't improve, I mean scrubby ass scrubs who even act like scrubbier than they play. Those kind of scrubs. They never seem to improve.

I agree. We all sucked at one time or another.

Sometimes they just don't wake up when we beat their ass down. Kind of like motivate them to get better. "Wow...He's good. I want to get as good or even better!" Their attitudes take part in it (if they get better or not). Some just plain out give up. But that's not me or you. Thats the thing that seperates us from the scrubs.

[WorsePhazon]

Zero pretty much summed it up right there

[Silks]

Harmonaz's story was funny, then zero came along and took all the life out of it. Why you do that zero? :sad:

[Zerogunner]

Harmonaz's story was funny, then zero came along and took all the life out of it. Why you do that zero? :sad:

Didn't take the life out of it. Trying to play devil's advocate.

[Captain Ryu]

You can do mind games with any character. Depending on what you base your game around. Parry or throw. Feints to get them to parry or fake the throw to combo.

You completely miss read what I said :lol:

[Zerogunner]

You completely miss read what I said :lol:

I didn't. I just emphasized the point again.

[Gilgam3sh]

If something works more often than not people will keep doing it. If you play mostly on XBL and you're not told what doesn't work or you don't read up on how this game works, you'll stick with unsafe, unconfirmed, and uneducated way of play. Unless you mostly play in a lag free environment chances of you reinventing the wheel is next to zero. Yesterday I was hit by full screen empty jump to ken's SA3 (mindgames son!), lots of wakeup supers (when I was the one waking up, and he supered me), jump in shin shoryu (sometimes even jump in hk to srk xx shinsho even tho everything was blocked), c.hk as a follow up to a blocked c.hk etc.

Showing up in the arcades every now and again isn't going to change the way you play unless you make an effort. Jumping from across the screen to land into a super won't become a valid tactic as soon as you adapt to the speed difference. I suck, but at least I try to learn the game and try to improve my technical game instead of trying to squeeze out wins. If you have 6000+ games on live and still do that crap it's going to take more than 10 trips to the arcade to fix it. My respect to those who try and succeed tho.

[eiSH]

^ Very well put :clap:

[Zerogunner]

The only effort is you need to go play against better people (I'm not talking about Gila, I'm talking about anyone who plays 3S).

[Damage898]

Dont know bout you guys but the crappier some one plays the harder time I have winning. In those kinds of situations I have to dumb down my game to get in wins. Afterwards Im not even having fun anymore just trying to wait it out till one of us gets at least 7 wins. Only happens on XBL for me anyways.

[Silks]

Dont know bout you guys but the crappier some one plays the harder time I have winning. In those kinds of situations I have to dumb down my game to get in wins. Afterwards Im not even having fun anymore just trying to wait it out till one of us gets at least 7 wins. Only happens on XBL for me anyways.

Good point. Or just play extremely safe against it.

[eiSH]

Dont know bout you guys but the crappier some one plays the harder time I have winning. In those kinds of situations I have to dumb down my game to get in wins. Afterwards Im not even having fun anymore just trying to wait it out till one of us gets at least 7 wins. Only happens on XBL for me anyways.We just finished a set where you were near-fullscreen ex MGBing me after every s.Roundhouse -> ex MGB -> ducking straight xx SA1. I guess that's what you mean by "dumb[ing] down [your] game to get in wins." but you weren't winning very often. =\

[HarmoNaz]

near-fullscreen ex MGBing If this is 'ok' with people, then I'm picking Dudley for XBL :nunchuck:

[Damage898]

Yaish your just a better player than me that wasnt me dumbing it down that was me getting desperate lol. Props to your Urien as always, he gives me nightmares :sad:

[DevilJin 01]

Dont know bout you guys but the crappier some one plays the harder time I have winning. In those kinds of situations I have to dumb down my game to get in wins. Afterwards Im not even having fun anymore just trying to wait it out till one of us gets at least 7 wins. Only happens on XBL for me anyways.

Well the idea is the "lesser" players don't play by the tactics/rules that better players do so if you're not understanding on how to fight vs. them they can be more overwhelming. The idea is that they're not really playing the game so you really don't have to play to win either. You don't have to pressure them with the more advanced stuff to win. There's no real need to look for parries or tick throw or do anything real serious. They'll make their own mistakes that you can punish with simple blocking and work to shut their game down. It's obviously not as fun but you have to essentially dumb your game down to beat theirs. Unless you're using like Yun, Urien or Makoto. You can touch them once and that can pretty much mean the game.

[final_cut]

Hugo: Jab Jab Jab whenever you get close, then wakeup 360 or 720. I forget who does this, I think Roloblaze, but I can't remember. Basically all scrubby Hugos play this way, and it boggles my mind how people think mashing 360 or spamming jabs take skill. :wtf:

I think he does do that. I've played his hugo a good bit, cause I play Hugo too.

I have this stupid habit of Jumping in HK -> crouching mk x3. just keep doing it. if the first on hits, I just kinda do it again cause I think its funny. I dunno, I play differently online, I just try lots of stupid stuff. Not like I'm all that great offline. Also, I always parry as soon as I jump in the air, then attack. even if I'm not being attacked, I just have this habit of tapping forward. when I jump.

[HarmoNaz]

I just have this habit of tapping forward. when I jump.Sounds like a good habit if you ask me...

[eiSH]

Don't bring Laser, Hand of God, or Bomb to a Paper, Rock, Scissors fight.Fixed it for you. <3

[Silks]

^^^ LOL. Well put