Extremely Random: CvS2 Quiz Tournament!

[Buktooth]

so i have a fever, and i'm hella tired but i cant sleep because random shit hurts. so as i'm trying to sleep my mind starts to wander about how much fun i had with the remixed Quiz and Dragons portion of Sirlin's CCC vol 2 (but... way too easy for an actual Capcom fan, and with too few questions). Naturally, I thought to apply the idea to CvS2!

This little quiz is meant to be some parts educational, some parts interesting, some parts... just quizzy for the sake of being quizzy

Winner is the dude that scores the most points (some questions have multiple answers, and are worth multiple points). In the event of a tie, dude that posted first wins

Winner gets an autographed Comet Cruncher courtesy of Leezy!

Runner-Up gets to try to make Kim promise to not use cross up roll super for a day

2nd Runner-Up gets a mystery jpeg which may or may not be Gene

1) What is the resulting frame disadvantage for Sagat if his low fierce is JDed?

2) Which character(s) does Cammy have a special intro with?

3) Which character(s) can gain substantial frame advantage from their normal projectile, but only if the opponent is crouching?

4) What color does Japanese player Iyo choose for his Rolento?

5) Which formerly-prolific CvS2 forums poster once criticized the usefulness of a move because it carried a -1 frame disadvantage?

6) The top 8 CvS2 players at the first SBO were Daigo, Ino, Dan, Otaku, Version, Aojiru Guile, Tokido, and one other player. Who is the missing player?

7) Which character(s) do not require 'assistance' from their opponent to perform the Tech Throw Glitch?

8) Which super(s) can always punish Hibiki's strong slash attack on hit or block, regardless of range?

9) What is the name of Gunter's site, which contains CvS2 information?

10) Which character(s) have shorter throw range than the rest of the cast?

11) Which background stage supposedly "slows down" while Bison is performing his corner CC?

12) When Ino won Evo 2k4 against Daigo, what was printed on the front of his shirt?

13) Which character(s) can combo off of their manual overheads? (this excludes usage of CCs, Rolento knives, etc. ...and my crazy definition of manual overhead is an overhead that you can't airblock) Please list every example you can think of.

14) Which character(s) Alpha Counters leave them at +10 frame advantage on block?

15) Not counting OTGs, Rolento knives, tech throw glitches or any other craziness, which character can do the most guaranteed damage off of a throw? (please also list the combo and the amount of damage)

16) Which two Japanese players did Buktooth defeat at Evo 2k6? :D

17) Which character(s) do the 2p Cross Up Glitch NOT work on normally?

18) Other than being susceptible to OTG grabs, what is the A-Groove-related glitch that only works with Dan?

19) How does one perform the 'glitched' Bison headstomp?

20) Which character(s) may be juggled much lower to the ground than is normally possible?

21) Which now-defunct website did Buktooth's Frame Data Trainer guide first debut on?

22) At Evo 2k2, who was Tokido's reserve character to pull out against K-Groove players?

23) Which character(s) have two-frame low jabs?

24) Which character(s) CANNOT be crossed up by Cammy's jumping short kick while crouching? (excluding crazy-meaty set ups)

25) Utilizing an exploit (not so much a glitch), which character(s) can theoretically 'stick to the wall' indefinitely?

26) How do you perform Joe's 'Baku-Cancel'? (knowing what a Baku-Cancel is is part of the question)

27) Which Southern-California former player was affectionately referred to as "P-Daddy"?

28) Who released the first-ever full-length CvS2 combo video? What was it called? (and I have a nagging feeling I might be wrong here)

29) Who does Midwest player VDO always choose as his ratio 2 character?

30) Which character gets up off of the ground at the slowest rate?

[Buktooth]

filler post so you dont accidentally see some answers on the next post

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[misterbean97]

damn fuckin buk...kinda hard quiz, lol.


3.) vice (thx gene)
4.) purple (i cheated)
5.) gunther?
8.) all lvl 3: rock's shining knuckle, cammy horizontal super, rolento trip wire
9.) namonaki
12.) jesus saved you
14.) rolento
16.) daigo, nuki
17.) hibiki
19.) when headstomp hits leave stick in neutral then hold direction that you want to fly to
20.) chun, rolento(?)
21.) top-players.com(?)
22.) n-honda(?)
25.) maki
27.) geo(?)
29.) p-raiden(?)

i suck

[Hail And Kill]

How come i have to be 2nd runner up prize? HATE.

1) What is the resulting frame disadvantage for Sagat if his low fierce is JDed?
-4 or some shit. i remembered that JD chart... i think?..

2) Which character(s) does Cammy have a special intro with?
vice ... should be bison though

3) Which character(s) can gain substantial frame advantage from their normal projectile, but only if the opponent is crouching?
iori?..

4) What color does Japanese player Iyo choose for his Rolento?
fierce button i think. dark pink.

5) Which formerly-prolific CvS2 forums poster once criticized the usefulness of a move because it carried a -1 frame disadvantage?
Buktooth

6) The top 8 CvS2 players at the first SBO were Daigo, Tokido, Dan, Otaku, Version, Aokiru Guile, Tokido, and one other player. Who is the missing player?
i unno. the a groove motherfucker.... ... . . i wasnt even born yet

7) Which character(s) do not require 'assistance' from their opponent to perform the Tech Throw Glitch?
bison?

8) Which super(s) can always punish Hibiki's strong slash attack on hit or block, regardless of range?
cammy drill super. rolento trip wire. MPC. Rock super.

9) What is the name of Gunter's site, which contains CvS2 information?
www.namonaki.com

10) Which character(s) have shorter throw range than the rest of the cast?
yun hibiki

11) Which background stage supposedly "slows down" while Bison is performing his corner CC?
London

12) When Ino won Evo 2k4 against Daigo, what was printed on the front of his shirt?
"Fear The K"

13) Which character(s) can combo off of their manual overheads? (this excludes CCs, Rolento knives, etc. ...And Morrigan doesn't have a manual overhead) Please list every example you can think of.
hibik. Overhead to super.

14) Which character(s) Alpha Counters leave them at +10 frame advantage on block?
Rolento. Yuri.

15) Not counting OTGs, Rolento knives, tech throw glitches or any other craziness, which character can do the most guaranteed damage off of a throw? (please also list the combo and the amount of damage)

-Iori vs rolento: walk up s.jab s.fierce, lvl2 maaiden masher, cancel to freeze super on 3rd hit, j.hp s.hp fierce dp(dizzy), j.hp, s.hp, hp rekkas. does like 9800

-Rock 360, sweep, raging storm. ~7400

-Todo cmd grab, custom, do custom, super. 9,000 or so?

16) Which two Japanese players did Buktooth defeat at Evo 2k6? :D
1. Nuki. 2. daigo

17) Which character(s) do the 2p Cross Up Glitch NOT work on normally?
hibiki.

18) Other than being susceptible to OTG grabs, what is the A-Groove-related glitch that only works with Dan?
throwing him out of custom

19) How does one perform the 'glitched' Bison headstomp?
hold direction, release when hes about to cum.

20) Which character(s) may be juggled much lower to the ground than is normally possible?
chun li. cammy.

21) Which now-defunct website did Buktooth's Frame Data Trainer guide first debut on?
WWW.GAMEFAQS.COM BEST SITE EVAR!!

22) At Evo 2k2, who was Tokido's reserve character to pull out against K-Groove players?
A-urien. .... .. . A-Bison?

23) Which character(s) have two-frame low jabs?
Chun li
Bison

24) Which character(s) CANNOT be crossed up by Cammy's jumping short kick while crouching? (excluding crazy-meaty set ups)
sakura.

25) Utilizing an exploit (not so much a glitch), which character(s) can theoretically 'stick to the wall' indefinitely?


26) How do you perform Joe's 'Baku-Cancel'?
rc fierce elec... tap fierce+jab slowly. =]

27) Which Southern-California former player was affectionately referred to as "P-Daddy"?
G-o?

28) Who released the first-ever full-length CvS2 combo video? What was it called? (and I have a nagging feeling I might be wrong here)
Harvest? by sai-rec? i unno

29) Who does Midwest player VDO always choose as his ratio 2 character?
uhh... doesnt he switch it up sometimes? I guess his main would be geese.

30) Which character gets up off of the ground at the slowest rate?
Honda?

[ohayo1234]

I will never stop doing cross up roll supers

[Nick T.]

1) What is the resulting frame disadvantage for Sagat if his low fierce is JDed?
-1 ?

2) Which character(s) does Cammy have a special intro with?
Vice

4) What color does Japanese player Iyo choose for his Rolento?
purple

5) Which formerly-prolific CvS2 forums poster once criticized the usefulness of a move because it carried a -1 frame disadvantage?
KCXJ(sounds like something he would do lol)

6) The top 8 CvS2 players at the first SBO were Daigo, Ino, Dan, Otaku, Version, Aojiru Guile, Tokido, and one other player. Who is the missing player?
Ohnuki ?

7) Which character(s) do not require 'assistance' from their opponent to perform the Tech Throw Glitch?
Akuma and Kim??

8) Which super(s) can always punish Hibiki's strong slash attack on hit or block, regardless of range?
lvl 3 direct lightning and Rocks qcf + K super (dunno name)

9) What is the name of Gunter's site, which contains CvS2 information?
Namonaki

10) Which character(s) have shorter throw range than the rest of the cast?
Nakoruru? (i have no clue)

14) Which character(s) Alpha Counters leave them at +10 frame advantage on block?
Rolento

16) Which two Japanese players did Buktooth defeat at Evo 2k6? :D
Daigo and Nuki

17) Which character(s) do the 2p Cross Up Glitch NOT work on normally?
HIbiki

18) Other than being susceptible to OTG grabs, what is the A-Groove-related glitch that only works with Dan?
Press up as you activate and Dan can't get grabbed, if the player doesn't press up, Dan gets grabbed

19) How does one perform the 'glitched' Bison headstomp?
Stomp, hold a direction for a second and let go when he starts to move instead of holding the direction.

20) Which character(s) may be juggled much lower to the ground than is normally possible?
Chun and Guile

21) Which now-defunct website did Buktooth's Frame Data Trainer guide first debut on?
Gamegaqs

22) At Evo 2k2, who was Tokido's reserve character to pull out against K-Groove players?
Todo?

23) Which character(s) have two-frame low jabs?
Bison, Rolento??

24) Which character(s) CANNOT be crossed up by Cammy's jumping short kick while crouching? (excluding crazy-meaty set ups)
Vega , im not sure about this

25) Utilizing an exploit (not so much a glitch), which character(s) can theoretically 'stick to the wall' indefinitely?
Maki

27) Which Southern-California former player was affectionately referred to as "P-Daddy"?
Geo

28) Who released the first-ever full-length CvS2 combo video? What was it called? (and I have a nagging feeling I might be wrong here)
Bas
"BASICCOMBO"
29) Who does Midwest player VDO always choose as his ratio 2 character?
random select

30) Which character gets up off of the ground at the slowest rate?
Chang

[POscrub]

Too lazy to make actual guesses, how about some partial answers?
1. *cough* shameless plug *cough* :D Read Buktooth's system FAQ!
3. KUROSU KATTA!? Nah, clearly the answer here is Shin Akuma. Eating double fireball into sweep into super or something stupid from the computer hurts so bad...
6. awakiroM
7. He's on K-are
8. Beware the Elephant Killer. Also in this category, the Drop and the Rape. It is scientifically proven that Ryu cannot dodge either of these moves, so logically neither can Hibiki.
10. Buktooth found some throw data was wrong... :D
13. Kim's stance change Neri Chagi gives +5, wiki FTW
21. I go here for the hot SvC review
23. There's more. Look on the SNK side. A 2-frame jab that has crazy reach and leaves u at +0. And the 2nd is a member of the Hero team.
24. I'll take a guess and say Vega? Thought he's hard to cross.
25. Every character I play, looks like their stuck to the wall. It's safer to be in the corner, that way you can't be crossed up. Just like you should NEVER attack Sagat while he's down and has meter. If you have a choice between being shot and being blown up, that's not much of a choice.
26. hands -> LP+HP x 2
28. The Iron combo chef's 1st video, hosted on combovideos?
29. Ratio 2? No... Clearly he picks R4 RAIDEN... Has this character fallen off buildings several times? And survived cuz of poofy pants?
30. Wiki it up :P

[Buktooth]

ok i obviously made this way too hard HARRRR

[Ouroborus]

1. dunno
2. vice
3. rugal's reppuken?
4. purple
5. kcxj?
6.
7.
8. spin drive smasher, gigaton blow
9. namonaki
10. hibiki, yun
11. africa
12.
13. kim, kyo
14. rolento, yuri
15. dhalsims ground CC ending in a yoga noogie?
16.
17. hibiki
18. being tossed out of his CC
19. press forward/backward as soon as he bounces off the opponent
20. chun li
21. shinakuma.com
22. vega
23. bison, chun li
24. vega
25. maki
26. rc mp hhs for 2 hits?
27. Gee-o. George Posadas
28.
29. yamazaki
30. chang

[POscrub]

Look on the bright side, this quiz could be a LOT worse
Maj probably knows a lot of crazy system/combo junk that no one else would know, if he didn't post it on sonichurricane. The combo meter showing up empty due to message overload was pretty crazy.

And asking people to explain WHY some juggle combos work would be downright mean. :P

My personal favourite though would be:
"How do you roll cancel Sagat's low fierce."

[Maj]

Is this a take-home quiz aka "take an hour to do research" quiz or a pop quiz aka "off the top of your head"? Cuz i'm going with the latter option.

1) My low fierces don't get JD'd (aka no clue)

2) Vice

3) Rolento, Yuri, Kyosuke ... do air fireballs count? There are lots of those.

6) Ohnuki? Maybe Watson? My hero Watson is missing from top 8 a lot these days.

7) Raiden, Vice, Rugal? Pretty much guessing here.

8) Blanka lvl3 one hit super, Rock lvl3 Rising Tackle, Balrog Gigaton. Guile's Sonic Hurricane can be out of range sometimes, i think.

9) Namonaki. Though, it's kind of a trick question cuz the name means that it doesn't have a name, right?

11) Heard too many conflicting reports on these phantom stage problems.

13) Does that in include special moves? If so, then Hibiki, Kyo. Does it include meaty attacks? If so, then Kim for sure and maybe a whole bunch of others. Does it include juggles? If so, then it's pretty easy to juggle after Ken's overhead (http://sonichurricane.com/media/cvs2xtra03.html).

14) Rolento and Yuri

15) Kinda hard to top K-Gief lvl3 FAB. Also, K-ShinGouki Raging Demon. But apart from those two, my money is on C-Todo command grab (midscreen) into lvl2 wave super xx whiff command grab for maximum hits. Also i'm not sure but Sai-Rec A-Todo combo might be possible off a command grab. If you mean normal throws only, then probably A-Hibiki.

16) Daigo and ... Bas?

17) Hibiki? Cammy?

18) Something about him being susceptible to throws during activation, and getting around that by doing a jump and then canceling into CC? I remember reading about it in your guide but that was a long time ago.

19) You mean the one where he doesn't bounce off? Just make it connect as meaty as possible.

20) Chun, Cammy, Guile

21) VidOp? Haha, defunct.

23) Chun and ... Nako?

24) Iori, Hibiki, my Guile

25) Maki, doing the LP version of the wall jump

26) What the hell is a Baku-Cancel?

27) If that's a P-Groove reference, then probably Gee-O.

28) What does "full-length" mean? If you mean a really long combo video for sale, then it was Sai-Rec's first Harvest video. Otherwise, there are too many to be sure. When CvS2 first came out there were combo videos popping up all over the place. The very first one might have been Amir or Persona.

30) Gief?

Wow, i was guessing most of the time. A lot of it is really technical numerical info that i never bothered memorizing cuz it's in guides. Fun quiz though. I'm looking forward to seeing some of the answers.

Edit: Regarding the first CvS2 video, it definately wasn't James Chen's video cuz he took his time with it, making it really diverse and giving it that action-packed "it almost looks like match play" feel. Plus it wasn't hosted on ComboVideos.com cuz that website was like two years away from existing at that point. James' video was hosted on SRK, back when SRK had content. Ok, that's a lie. SRK didn't have content back then either, haha. I'm also 95% sure it wasn't BAS' video cuz the first time that got posted anywhere, there had already been at least a dozen combo videos released. Though, i guess it's possible that it was made a long time ago and that it took forever for the elite people to get around to sharing it. Seriously, my money is on Amir, cuz it seemed like that guy released like 3 combo videos within 3 hours of getting the game and then made a 4th one the next day before retiring from combo video making. I'm exaggerating a bit, but that guy was on the scene EARLY.

[laugh]

30 Questions, god damn. You must've really struggled to sleep, but I had to enter for the sick prizes.

1) 0

2) Vice

3) Kyosuke

4) purple

5) sounds like a troll, so kcxj.

6) Sawada?

7) Raiden

8) Rock's lv3 shining knuckle super, Balrog (boxer)'s lv3 gigaton blow super, Shin Akuma's stomp kick super

9) Namonaki

10) Hibiki, Yun (both 44 pixels)

11) Everystage in the left corner at a certain distance. I know this shit.

12) Jesus Loves You or Jesus Died For You

13) Hibiki's overhead

14) Rolento

15) Todo or Iori, but don't know the damage.

16) Daigo, Nuki

17) Hibiki

18)

19) You stomp, hold either left or right for a sec, then let go of the stick to neutral.

20) Guile, Chunli, and someone else I forgot

21)

22) Chunli

23) Bison, Chunli, Ryu,Ken, Akuma, Rolento, Iori

24) Vega

25) Maki

26) You do the mash-on punch move, then press 4 more punches. Then you recover instantly.

27) Gee-o?

28) Tragic released 4 sets of videos for cvs2 I think showing basic combos. Can't remember the name.

29) Geese

30) no idea

[FlashMetroid]

1) What is the resulting frame disadvantage for Sagat if his low fierce is JDed?
low fierce

2) Which character(s) does Cammy have a special intro with?
vice

3) Which character(s) can gain substantial frame advantage from their normal projectile, but only if the opponent is crouching?
kyosuke

4) What color does Japanese player Iyo choose for his Rolento?
FP purple

5) Which formerly-prolific CvS2 forums poster once criticized the usefulness of a move because it carried a -1 frame disadvantage?
Buk?

6) The top 8 CvS2 players at the first SBO were Daigo, Ino, Dan, Otaku, Version, Aojiru Guile, Tokido, and one other player. Who is the missing player?
morikawa

7) Which character(s) do not require 'assistance' from their opponent to perform the Tech Throw Glitch?
....um kim...

8) Which super(s) can always punish Hibiki's strong slash attack on hit or block, regardless of range?
Rock super, cammy super, balrog super, rolento trip wire

9) What is the name of Gunter's site, which contains CvS2 information?
Namonaki

10) Which character(s) have shorter throw range than the rest of the cast?
yun

11) Which background stage supposedly "slows down" while Bison is performing his corner CC?
london

12) When Ino won Evo 2k4 against Daigo, what was printed on the front of his shirt?
something about jesus or something

13) Which character(s) can combo off of their manual overheads? (this excludes usage of CCs, Rolento knives, etc. ...and my crazy definition of manual overhead is an overhead that you can't airblock) Please list every example you can think of.

Hibiki over head into super, shotos jump in hurricane kick, cammys dive kick, sakura dive kick, rugals air move, honda over head splash, dhalsim spinning things

14) Which character(s) Alpha Counters leave them at +10 frame advantage on block?
rolento, yuri

15) Not counting OTGs, Rolento knives, tech throw glitches or any other craziness, which character can do the most guaranteed damage off of a throw? (please also list the combo and the amount of damage)

rock 360, 3ps(hold), release(hit), s.fp, level 2, wiff counter, s.fp, level 1 8800 on kyo

todo command grab into CC 9000 on kyo

16) Which two Japanese players did Buktooth defeat at Evo 2k6? :D
nuki, daigo

17) Which character(s) do the 2p Cross Up Glitch NOT work on normally?
hibiki

18) Other than being susceptible to OTG grabs, what is the A-Groove-related glitch that only works with Dan?
throw out of custom

19) How does one perform the 'glitched' Bison headstomp?
head stomp hold direction for a second and go to neutral as soon as hes going

20) Which character(s) may be juggled much lower to the ground than is normally possible?
chunli, cammy

21) Which now-defunct website did Buktooth's Frame Data Trainer guide first debut on?
gamefags i mean gamefaqs

22) At Evo 2k2, who was Tokido's reserve character to pull out against K-Groove players?
todo?

23) Which character(s) have two-frame low jabs?
chunli, benimaru...i think thats it for low jabs

24) Which character(s) CANNOT be crossed up by Cammy's jumping short kick while crouching? (excluding crazy-meaty set ups)
vega, hibiki, sakura...?

25) Utilizing an exploit (not so much a glitch), which character(s) can theoretically 'stick to the wall' indefinitely?
maki

26) How do you perform Joe's 'Baku-Cancel'? (knowing what a Baku-Cancel is is part of the question)
4 punches after the hands

27) Which Southern-California former player was affectionately referred to as "P-Daddy"?
Geo

28) Who released the first-ever full-length CvS2 combo video? What was it called? (and I have a nagging feeling I might be wrong here)
Umm tragics vids or Bas combovid not sure which came first

29) Who does Midwest player VDO always choose as his ratio 2 character?
Raiden or Yama I just beat him last tourney hehe

30) Which character gets up off of the ground at the slowest rate?
Santa..i mean chang

EASY!!!!! BABY!!!!!! lol:wink:

[FullMetalRoss]

1) What is the resulting frame disadvantage for Sagat if his low fierce is JDed?

umm is it like -4 or something?

2) Which character(s) does Cammy have a special intro with?

Vice

3) Which character(s) can gain substantial frame advantage from their normal projectile, but only if the opponent is crouching?

Kyosuke!

4) What color does Japanese player Iyo choose for his Rolento?

Purple one

5) Which formerly-prolific CvS2 forums poster once criticized the usefulness of a move because it carried a -1 frame disadvantage?

KCXJ or KANG

6) The top 8 CvS2 players at the first SBO were Daigo, Ino, Dan, Otaku, Version, Aojiru Guile, Tokido, and one other player. Who is the missing player?

The A-geese guy, Knit I think is his name.

7) Which character(s) do not require 'assistance' from their opponent to perform the Tech Throw Glitch?

Raiden

8) Which super(s) can always punish Hibiki's strong slash attack on hit or block, regardless of range?

Mega Psycho Crusher, Kim Rush Super, Shine Knuckle Lvl3, Lvl 3 Spin Drive Smasher.. there are more but I'm tired of typing

9) What is the name of Gunter's site, which contains CvS2 information?

namonaki.com

10) Which character(s) have shorter throw range than the rest of the cast?

Haha Hibiki cause the no one wants you to get a throw...

11) Which background stage supposedly "slows down" while Bison is performing his corner CC?

The rainy stage!

12) When Ino won Evo 2k4 against Daigo, what was printed on the front of his shirt?

I have no clue
13) Which character(s) can combo off of their manual overheads? (this excludes usage of CCs, Rolento knives, etc. ...and my crazy definition of manual overhead is an overhead that you can't airblock) Please list every example you can think of.

Umm, I have no clue if you exclude hibiki, but Hibiki can cancel her overhead dp+k into slashes, Kim, he can combo another kick of his overhead kick (I think)

14) Which character(s) Alpha Counters leave them at +10 frame advantage on block?

Rolento!

15) Not counting OTGs, Rolento knives, tech throw glitches or any other craziness, which character can do the most guaranteed damage off of a throw? (please also list the combo and the amount of damage)
I didn't have time to test more, but K-gief versus a-akuma, 7700 Lv3 Final atomic buster...

The combo I was gonna test was with c-iori and it might do more or I could be completely wrong... oh or Raged todoh, wave combo in the corner...


16) Which two Japanese players did Buktooth defeat at Evo 2k6? :D

Ohnuki, Tokido

17) Which character(s) do the 2p Cross Up Glitch NOT work on normally?

Geese (?)

18) Other than being susceptible to OTG grabs, what is the A-Groove-related glitch that only works with Dan?

You can throw him outta cc, sucks to be dan

19) How does one perform the 'glitched' Bison headstomp?

You do it the headstomp, then hold up, until the top of the jump back arc and then over... and then bison flys far away.

20) Which character(s) may be juggled much lower to the ground than is normally possible?

Guile Cammy Chun-li

21) Which now-defunct website did Buktooth's Frame Data Trainer guide first debut on?

Video-opera.com(?)

22) At Evo 2k2, who was Tokido's reserve character to pull out against K-Groove players?

Sakura (fuck me I don't remember)

23) Which character(s) have two-frame low jabs?

Bison, Chun-li

24) Which character(s) CANNOT be crossed up by Cammy's jumping short kick while crouching? (excluding crazy-meaty set ups)

Balrog (I think he can't be holding block maybe)

25) Utilizing an exploit (not so much a glitch), which character(s) can theoretically 'stick to the wall' indefinitely?

Maki

26) How do you perform Joe's 'Baku-Cancel'? (knowing what a Baku-Cancel is is part of the question)

I think this is the mash punch thing, where you have to make sure the when you do the five taps the last tap is with the medium punch and that gives you the most frame advantage

27) Which Southern-California former player was affectionately referred to as "P-Daddy"?

Don't know..

28) Who released the first-ever full-length CvS2 combo video? What was it called? (and I have a nagging feeling I might be wrong here)

xyz - harvest (prolly wrong, I wasn't around in the begining)

29) Who does Midwest player VDO always choose as his ratio 2 character?

Ken

30) Which character gets up off of the ground at the slowest rate?

Dhalsim

[iKlEiTlH]

6) morikawa

11) the 4th (also the other character is upside down while getting hit by the custom)

12) "ALL ABOARD" then on the back of the shirt it said "PUMP NASTY EXPRESS"

13) jesus christ fuck u

16) combofiend then ricky

18) nigga shootin hella one-handed hadookinz

19) jump on some dood's head then fly away hella far like HELLA FAR

22) s-cancels (they're like roll cancels cept less invincibility)

25) that wild queen of deception

26) just cancel some fuckin frames

29) RANDOM out of his 3 chars

30) bonky (this is why he'll always come in 2nd)

AIGHT WHO GIVING ME THAT HEAD???

[FlashMetroid]

AIGHT WHO GIVING ME THAT HEAD???

LMAO!!!!:rofl: :rofl:

[Maj]

So how long is this quiz gonna run before the answers get posted and some unfortunate fool gets declared winner? About a week?

Maj probably knows a lot of crazy system/combo junk that no one else would know, if he didn't post it on sonichurricane.
Haha, actually i'm not a big fan of keeping secrets when it comes to game engine knowledge. Just about everything i've ever found in CvS2 has been posted somewhere. Only exception is if i'm working on a video, i'm obviously not going to spoil it by talking about it ahead of time, but i make all the info public after the video is released. So i definately don't think i could have made as good a quiz as the one Buk posted. Plus he was feeling sick at the time. So in a way, Buktooth is the Michael Jordan of CvS2 quiz-making.

[Hail And Kill]

I HAVE THE ANSWERS MUAHAHAHAHHA.

Comet cruncher is mine.

[Mizuki]

1) What is the resulting frame disadvantage for Sagat if his low fierce is JDed?
2?

2) Which character(s) does Cammy have a special intro with?
Vice

3) Which character(s) can gain substantial frame advantage from their normal projectile, but only if the opponent is crouching?
Kyo-sukass

4) What color does Japanese player Iyo choose for his Rolento?
Maroon-ish color?

5) Which formerly-prolific CvS2 forums poster once criticized the usefulness of a move because it carried a -1 frame disadvantage?
Uhhh popoblo?

6) The top 8 CvS2 players at the first SBO were Daigo, Ino, Dan, Otaku, Version, Aojiru Guile, Tokido, and one other player. Who is the missing player?
Bas?

7) Which character(s) do not require 'assistance' from their opponent to perform the Tech Throw Glitch?
Big bear or some shit? Raiden?

8) Which super(s) can always punish Hibiki's strong slash attack on hit or block, regardless of range?
Sonic Hurricane? Super Psycho Crusher?

9) What is the name of Gunter's site, which contains CvS2 information?
Gunter's A-Groove Guide

10) Which character(s) have shorter throw range than the rest of the cast?
Yun

11) Which background stage supposedly "slows down" while Bison is performing his corner CC?
London

12) When Ino won Evo 2k4 against Daigo, what was printed on the front of his shirt?
I beat the beast?

13) Which character(s) can combo off of their manual overheads? (this excludes usage of CCs, Rolento knives, etc. ...and my crazy definition of manual overhead is an overhead that you can't airblock) Please list every example you can think of.
Cammy, Sak air dive

14) Which character(s) Alpha Counters leave them at +10 frame advantage on block?
Yuri

15) Not counting OTGs, Rolento knives, tech throw glitches or any other craziness, which character can do the most guaranteed damage off of a throw? (please also list the combo and the amount of damage)
Todo

16) Which two Japanese players did Buktooth defeat at Evo 2k6? :D
I don't know! I didn't go!

17) Which character(s) do the 2p Cross Up Glitch NOT work on normally?
Dhalsim?

18) Other than being susceptible to OTG grabs, what is the A-Groove-related glitch that only works with Dan?
...

19) How does one perform the 'glitched' Bison headstomp?
Uhhhh

20) Which character(s) may be juggled much lower to the ground than is normally possible?
Cammy

21) Which now-defunct website did Buktooth's Frame Data Trainer guide first debut on?
Uhhhh

22) At Evo 2k2, who was Tokido's reserve character to pull out against K-Groove players?
Bar log

23) Which character(s) have two-frame low jabs?
Geese, Ryu, Bison

24) Which character(s) CANNOT be crossed up by Cammy's jumping short kick while crouching? (excluding crazy-meaty set ups)
Cammy?

25) Utilizing an exploit (not so much a glitch), which character(s) can theoretically 'stick to the wall' indefinitely?
Maki

26) How do you perform Joe's 'Baku-Cancel'? (knowing what a Baku-Cancel is is part of the question)
Man...fuck that

27) Which Southern-California former player was affectionately referred to as "P-Daddy"?
Dunno

28) Who released the first-ever full-length CvS2 combo video? What was it called? (and I have a nagging feeling I might be wrong here)
Was it that old Agroove/C groove combo vid Bas made?

29) Who does Midwest player VDO always choose as his ratio 2 character?
Don't know...

30) Which character gets up off of the ground at the slowest rate?
Dhalsim

[The Chief]

ok i obviously made this way too hard HARRRR

Wow, you do get bored. No wonder you play RPG's all day. lol

[POscrub]

Just answering the ones that drew my interest.
Spoilers?

1) Sagat's cr. HP is -3. Tested by Buk himself. Haha

2) Vice and Claw Vega for sure, don't think there's any others, but who knows?

3) Kyosuke is the one that comes to mind, given u can get the 2nd hit of his fireball crazy late. Sadly though, it works on some standing characters, like rolento in hit stun causes the 2nd fireball to hit really late, so... only if the other character is crouching is disqualified...? As other people mentioned, other air fireballs should hit later if the other guy crouches, so you get more time. Yuri's hop fireball travels slooow, it kinda already gives advantage, but it's gets even worse if they duck block it, so shrugs. Yuri trap anyone?

8. Fast supers will hit it back. Blanka's Direct Lightning is too slow, and Bison's RH scissors kicks are slightly too slow. So look for anything that takes 15,16 something frames to get over there. Too bad only supers are allowed, do I get a cookie for noticing Dhalsim's st. HP punishes strong slash for FREE, regardless of hit or block. (11 frame startup, sadly st. LK whiffs by a hair, st. MK and RH go right over Hibiki's head at the range it's used, st. MP lacks reach, and st. jab doesn't go anywhere :P) On a side note, it kinda makes you wonder, whether there are any supers that are only able to punish the slash on reversal, but can be JD'd or parried using that 1 frame before blocking exploit.

10. Cough random junk thread. Finding that some of the Capcom top tier had short throw ranges as well was pretty surprising. Also confirming Sak's magic teleport throw has normal throw range.

13. Most air dives don't count, because not only can most be blocked high or low, they are also airblockable. Sak,Cammy, Yun air dive (airblockable), Akuma, Beni's, Kim's (not even overheads) all fail.The only one that stuck out to me immediately was Kim's stance overhead. Most of the normal command move overheads in this game can't be cancelled and have very few active frames so. Hibiki's cancellable overhead most people got. Maj getting ken's 2nd hit of crazy kicks to juggle as a solution = LOL.

Theoretically, you might be able to do something if you hit with the very end of Akuma's f+MP overhead, you should be able to get it up to +4, but the combo would have to start with a jab or short, and I don't know if they'll reach. That and actually trying it would be a pain, as perfect timing is needed, or it won't combo. Theoretically, Yuri might be able to combo off her butt move, she should be at +3 if done exactly right, and I think the butt moves her forward? So you might be able to close st. jab/short after it, maybe? Yama's overhead f+MP could go as high as +4, I think you should be able to link the jab/low short after it or something. His special overhead is a knockdown, so no dice? Rock goes as high as +4 as well, you might be able to do something, but you'd have to link off st. jab, the rest of his moves are too slow or won't reach likely.
[Edit: Totally slipped my mind. I heard that in revision 2 of CvS2 upper, Iori's f+MK instadizzies the opponent if it hits. So that goes on the list too.]


14. Yuri and Rolento. Hehe. Rolento spamming alpha counter is probably a lot more common than Yuri.

15. Most damage from a throw HAS to be CPU Shin Akuma or God Rugal grabbing you with their supers. CPU super bosses get a +150% to their damage, you can't top 7000*2.5 damage. That and they're ratio 4, so they get an even bigger bonus. Yikes.

19. Can't remember if this was tip of day, random junk or whatever. Just remember seeing it.

20. Cammy Chun Li and Guile. Book + Buk's FAQ?

21. Pretty sure it's video-opera. I remember that site for two, maybe 3 reasons. Besides the A-grooves thread, there was the SvC review, and one time on the front page, there was a post showing I think BC/Seattle Guilty Gear vids, and the caption was something along the lines of, "If you wanna learn how to play Guilty Gear, here's how NOT to do it." Ouch :P

23. Geese's st. short is the 2 frame move, not his jab. Ryu, Ken and Akuma have 2 frame standing jabs, but not crouching. Rolento's jab is a 3 framer. Props to the guy who got Benimaru. Other one is Haohmaru. Mashing on jab with Haoh was the first I learned to do in this game lol. Mash on jab, cr. HP jumpins, and throw if they rolled the jab. Haha. Summary list: Chun Li, Dic Bison, Benimaru, Haohmaru I think.

Btw, yeah Jame's Chen's thing was a bad guess regardless, but I wasn't quite thinking right. I guess the words full length threw me off, cuz that to me was a video that covered everything, rather than just being a strict combo video. Plus, I didn't mean that I first saw it on combovideos. I simply made the reference to combovideos, so people would know which vid I was talking about. Then again, that's my fault for wording it extremely poorly, but just clearing it up.

[Gwai Lo ½]

So much kcxj hate on the 5th question, lol

[popoblo]

5) Which formerly-prolific CvS2 forums poster once criticized the usefulness of a move because it carried a -1 frame disadvantage?
Uhhh popoblo?
[/COLOR]

lol, 'preciate it.

i should probably fill this out soon.

i've played VDO a lot, and he scrolls random select, looks up to the sky, and slaps a button aka RANDOM SELECT for his ratio 2 between raiden/yama/geese/haohmaru/etc. if VDO picked good P-characters like cammy and kyo and played them consistently, he would destroy people. too good.

and you do the glitched bison headstomp by making contact, putting the stick to neutral, and holding the direction that you want to go a second later at the peak of his jump.

MORIKAWA!

baku cancel? press jab + fierce twice, you get huge frame advangate. link low RH for the knockdown, CC, whatever.too bad it's joe, otherwise he'd be the next A-blanka.

peace

[ohayo1234]

7) Which character(s) do not require 'assistance' from their opponent to perform the Tech Throw Glitch?

Charlie and Keith

[Leezy]

WTF? I ain't gonna autograph no comet crunchers!

I will jizz on some meat mashers for Gene, though.

Campbell...wtf was randomly hurting that caused you to lose sleep?

Keith, you can get head from Gene anytime he's in NorCal.

[BKB]

7) any character that initiated the throw? I know vice can.

15) Todo.. Maybe Vice if you do the drag throw then sai-rec the shit out of them?

[Hail And Kill]

am i known to give head or some shit? i dont do that nasty ass shit. god damn

[iKlEiTlH]

7) Which character(s) do not require 'assistance' from their opponent to perform the Tech Throw Glitch?
Big bear or some shit? Raiden?


haha, BIG BEAR UP IN THIS SHIT!


am i known to give head or some shit?

no, you're not known for it. i haven't been telling people.

[Leezy]

Oh...my bad.

I didn't know that was a secret thing...

[FlashMetroid]

so when do I get my prize lol

[box]

Here's another question:

31) What's the lyrics to the music played on the beer stage? Click here for mp3 download page: http://gh.ffshrine.org/song/2441/26

[gridman]

Here's another question:

31) What's the lyrics to the music played on the beer stage? Click here for mp3 download page: http://gh.ffshrine.org/song/2441/26

Do you have anymore of CvS2 tracks?

[box]

Do you have anymore of CvS2 tracks?

I do... but you gotta answer question 31 first.

[Buktooth]

ok, as stated, test was probably a lot harder than i should've made it. but again, remember it was also supposed to be educational as well as umm... a dumb way to kill time

the vast majority of these answers have been archived somewhere on the internet, by me. most of these can actually be found just in my systems guide faq

little bit at a time:

1) What is the resulting frame disadvantage for Sagat if his low fierce is JDed?
-3. This was the first move i tested when trying to figure out the formula for JD guardstun. -3 is pretty much safe, but a k-sagat player can go for (2 frame) standing jab, link low forward and see what happens

2) Which character(s) does Cammy have a special intro with?
vice. vega and benimaru technically have special intros with her also, but they have the same special intro with every female character. i still awarded a point for any of these answers, though

3) Which character(s) can gain substantial frame advantage from their normal projectile, but only if the opponent is crouching?
i was mainly thinking kyosuke here, where he can get like +15 or something ridiculous if you're crouching, but maj brought up a good point with the air fireballs. so the question is, is an extra +1 or 2 from crouching the air fireball enough to be considered a 'substantial' gain? shrug

4) What color does Japanese player Iyo choose for his Rolento?
purple, because that's the color real G's pick

5) Which formerly-prolific CvS2 forums poster once criticized the usefulness of a move because it carried a -1 frame disadvantage?
haha, i've given plenty of forum posters a hard time, but im pretty sure it's always been in good fun. with that said, a few years back kcxj had just gotten his hands on a cvs2 book, and i guess whatever he saw inside just blew his mind. for a good long period of time it was all 'this move is awesome look it's +3' etc. one time, he made a statement which i personally thought was hilarious, which was something to the effect of "chun's standing strong isn't even that good, it's -1!". i think kang was mad at me for like a year or something for making fun of him too, haha

6) The top 8 CvS2 players at the first SBO were Daigo, Ino, Dan, Otaku, Version, Aojiru Guile, Tokido, and one other player. Who is the missing player?
morikawa, a-hibiki bison blanka. morikawa was realllllly close to eliminating tokido from sbo1, but tokido managed to pull some really ugly bison comeback that really should never have happened

the next year for sbo morikawa got pulled out of retirement to play on iyo's and version's team. they got sawada's team first round, morikawa goes back into retirement, haha

7) Which character(s) do not require 'assistance' from their opponent to perform the Tech Throw Glitch?
i haven't messed with the tech throw glitch in a while, but as far as i know only raiden can do cool stuff without the opponent also doing reversal glitchy moves:

1) reversal dp+k sends opponents to 'the underworld'
2) reversal 720+k instantly puts raiden behind the opponent at point blank range

8) Which super(s) can always punish Hibiki's strong slash attack on hit or block, regardless of range?

everybody got this wrong. at max range, only balrog's gigaton blow can punish a hibiki slash. yes, this includes cammy super and rock super. whoever wrote sonic hurricane and blanka super are like, extra wrong. you can actually combo 3 shorts, jab xx slash and still be able to block the blanka super if you do it right. sonic hurricane doesn't even reach if you do the combo normally

9) What is the name of Gunter's site, which contains CvS2 information?
namonaki.com (http://namonaki.com) is a really under-appreciated site for cvs2 players: it's got all the frame data laid out all pretty and easy to read, tons of pictures, lots of agroove combos for every character... in many ways it's a better resource than the cvs2 book because of its accessability

EDIT: apparently gunter took the entire site down?

10) Which character(s) have shorter throw range than the rest of the cast?
this is a fun one. these characters have shorter than the standard 52-pixel throwing range (they're probably all 44 pixels):

sagat
blanka
bison
balrog
honda
yun
athena
hibiki
zangief

the cvs2 book is straight up wrong on all of these characters except hibiki and yun. these were all tested with the "get point blank, make then block a jab, then try to throw them in the opposite direction" test. none of these characters can do it

more later.

[Maj]

1) What is the resulting frame disadvantage for Sagat if his low fierce is JDed?
-3. This was the first move i tested when trying to figure out the formula for JD guardstun. -3 is pretty much safe, but a k-sagat player can go for (2 frame) standing jab, link low forward and see what happens
Personally i think my answer deserves partial credit on this one.

3) Which character(s) can gain substantial frame advantage from their normal projectile, but only if the opponent is crouching?
i was mainly thinking kyosuke here, where he can get like +15 or something ridiculous if you're crouching, but maj brought up a good point with the air fireballs. so the question is, is an extra +1 or 2 from crouching the air fireball enough to be considered a 'substantial' gain? shrug
Dude it's gotta be more than that. As an extreme case, consider Sagat. The height difference between him standing and him crouching is huge. It's gotta take at least 5 frames longer for an air fireball to reach crouching Sagat than standing Sagat. Of course you can use horizontal spacing to make sure that the fireball hits at the last possible moment even against standing Sagat, but then again horizontal spacing ruins the Kyosuke example too. If you do it from far enough, it won't make a difference if the opponent is standing or crouching.

7) Which character(s) do not require 'assistance' from their opponent to perform the Tech Throw Glitch?
i haven't messed with the tech throw glitch in a while, but as far as i know only raiden can do cool stuff without the opponent also doing reversal glitchy moves:

1) reversal dp+k sends opponents to 'the underworld'
2) reversal 720+k instantly puts raiden behind the opponent at point blank range
You're probably right. Otherwise we'd see more characters using it in random Japanese match videos aside from Raiden. For some reason i thought of Vice but all of hers probably require assistance. On the other hand, there's probably some random character nobody plays who has another one, like King or Dan or something.

8) Which super(s) can always punish Hibiki's strong slash attack on hit or block, regardless of range?

everybody got this wrong. at max range, only balrog's gigaton blow can punish a hibiki slash. yes, this includes cammy super and rock super. whoever wrote sonic hurricane and blanka super are like, extra wrong. you can actually combo 3 shorts, jab xx slash and still be able to block the blanka super if you do it right. sonic hurricane doesn't even reach if you do the combo normally
If you're gonna talk shit about Sonic Hurricane, you may as well give people some false info too. Just to increase your chances of winning matches. Tell people that like, Guile's lvl1 Total Wipeout can always punish Hibiki slash combos, but only in tournaments.

EDIT: apparently gunter took the entire site down?
Looks like he forgot to pay his domain registration fee. I don't think it's ever coming back. Made me sad too.

the cvs2 book is straight up wrong on all of these characters except hibiki and yun. these were all tested with the "get point blank, make then block a jab, then try to throw them in the opposite direction" test. none of these characters can do it
Isn't that based on some ambiguous definition like "from one character's center to the other's center"? Seems like most of the characters on that list are fat. Balrog used to be a fat character in the CPS1 SF2 games but then they gave him kind of a fucked up hitbox, making him more difficult to hit than it looks. Maybe his "center" is positioned further back on his sprite.

[ohayo1234]

NeRD FUCKING ALERT.

[POscrub]

Maj:
Umm, seems like you took Buk's response a little on the personal side?
I mean, there is supposed to be some useless trivia/funny facts that kinda totally defy common sense in here right? I mean, Rock's Shine Knuckle NOT being able to punish the slash, comes as a complete surprise to me really. I mean come on, everyone knows that super you use to nab silly people throwing fireballs from across the screen right? It's fast, goes across the screen in a flash, how could it fail? I mean if Shine Knuckle doesn't work, the is it such a bad thing that Sonic Hurricane doesn't work? Without a doubt, both Sonic Hurricane and super Blanka ball come to mind immediately in any fast supers contest. Trivia knowledge here is just how far back is Hibiki when she does that slash anyway? And if you don't play Hibiki (and I doubt you've played CvS2 for a long time Maj?), how would know the pushback on her combo is that good?

As for the other stuff: I think you're thinking too deep, and too good at finding loopholes :D. I mean, think about how the question was written. Kyosuke doesn't get much play, due to his reputation for being the worst character in the game? (hey, at least with King, you can roll and throw!) So... how about asking a question about his fireballs properties? That nice split projectile landing late => "oooh, exploitable". What's the easiest way to make it land late? Crouching. Ah, and when you write the question, you don't wanna give away the character too easy right? I mean, any addendum you slap on will probably make it painfully obvious that's it Kyosuke right? To be honest, I can't think of a simple way to ask the question, without having some loophole in it. You definitely don't want to allow anything that lets you say throw a slow power wave, and run/jump across screens to get "frame advantage" or anything silly. And you dont' wanna spend 5 years wording up a question either right?

As for me, I answered the WRONG question. See initially, I was like, oh, he said strong slash, because everyone knows Bison scissor kicks can punish the jab one right? So, off I go training mode. And the first time I did the dummy recording, I mashed out the shorts, jab, strong slash. Then I remembered, Ah yes, if you link the shorts, and don't chain them, you get more pushback! So I gave myself a mental pat on the back, rerecorded Hibiki doing the combo, then started testing. Sadly though, I forgot the question wasn't about seeing what can hit back Hibiki's B&B when done perfectly. It was asking for MAX range slash. I'm betting a lot of trivia testers would've just gone for the cr. short x3 combo to try and hit back the slash, because how else do you set up a max range slash? See, if you wanted to get the right answer to this question, you'd have to do something like set the dummy to run you into the corner (so it's now a fixed distance), step back, and by trial and error find the max range of the slash, and try to hit THAT back.

For the record, Dhalsim's fierce can hit back cr. shortx3 even when done perfectly, but fails against max range strong slash, because it's OUT OF RANGE. Buk, you sneaky bum, my attempt to find a loophole has failed :(

[BKB]

You're probably right. Otherwise we'd see more characters using it in random Japanese match videos aside from Raiden. For some reason i thought of Vice but all of hers probably require assistance. On the other hand, there's probably some random character nobody plays who has another one, like King or Dan or something.

Have the opopnent tech vice's throw, then reversal nailbomb. It makes a teleport happen on ps2 at least.

[Maj]

Maj:
Umm, seems like you took Buk's response a little on the personal side?
No, not at all. In my initial response i said that Sonic Hurricane isn't a good counter to Hibiki's slash. That stuff about Total Wipeout was a joke. No drama between Buk and me, ever. I'm not taking this seriously at all. Just bouncing ideas back and forth. To me, it's like, why bother posting if i don't have something original to say? Besides, i think i covered all the possibilities in my previous posts. I said i thought it was a great quiz, i said i was just answering off the top of my head, and i said that i didn't really want to win. So i'm surprised that it's not obvious that i'm just kidding around.

[Laicram]

Fun thread! A lot of CVS lore is long buried, so it's fun to see a bunch of it compiled in one place. The throw range trivia was very interesting. Is there anything else in the data book that's way off?

[laugh]

The stamina data for either Yun or Akuma is wrong. It says in the book that Yun has 400 more life than Akuma, but in reality they have the same life.

[Nescu69]

The answer to all of the above is:

ROLL SUPER

[GunterJPN]

Looks like he forgot to pay his domain registration fee. I don't think it's ever coming back. Made me sad too.


I did? News to me...

http://namonaki.com/games/

[Maj]

Sweet. The front page of your website looked like one of those automatically generated pages that get posted when domains expire. When that happens it's always expensive to buy it back from whatever company picked it up.

So when a relevant question pops up, are we allowed to mention your website again? For a while it was top secret or something ...

[FlashMetroid]

Buk according to the book the standard grab range is 52 pixels is that wrong aswell?

POscrub rocks shine knuckle can punish it....

[Buktooth]

Isn't that based on some ambiguous definition like "from one character's center to the other's center"? Seems like most of the characters on that list are fat. Balrog used to be a fat character in the CPS1 SF2 games but then they gave him kind of a fucked up hitbox, making him more difficult to hit than it looks. Maybe his "center" is positioned further back on his sprite.
im pretty sure it's measured as the distance between the edge of both characters' collision boxes, e.g. push each other, move 52 pixels back and throw them. if the throw ranges were measured from the characters' centers, then you'd have raiden's throw range actually not be all that special (when it definitely is gigantic) and chang's throw range be puny
Have the opopnent tech vice's throw, then reversal nailbomb. It makes a teleport happen on ps2 at least.
interesting, i'll test it later. you get an e-thumbs up

POscrub rocks shine knuckle can punish it....
if you're talking about max range hibiki slash, it cant. only balrog gigaton blow

[Buktooth]

11) Which background stage supposedly "slows down" while Bison is performing his corner CC?
This will probably never be confirmed, but it's supposedly the windmill stage. the point of the question was to bring up the point that some people think (and still think) that there are stage differences. me? i don't use bison so i couldn't care less

12) When Ino won Evo 2k4 against Daigo, what was printed on the front of his shirt?
in all caps, "JESUS DIED FOR YOU" (and your inability to roll cancel)

13) Which character(s) can combo off of their manual overheads? (this excludes usage of CCs, Rolento knives, etc. ...and my crazy definition of manual overhead is an overhead that you can't airblock) Please list every example you can think of.
a lot of people seemed to have missed my criteria of overheads having to be un-airblockable, sigh

kim's stance overhead leaves him at +5, which makes it pretty easy to link low short, stand short xx rushy super after it. this is pretty common actually

kim's normal overhead (f+rh) can be comboed after in a few different ways, though these are all a lot less practical:
-overhead, go into stance, kara cancel jab into rushy super (really hard)
-overhead, go into stance, kara cancel jab into launcher super (stupid impossible hard)
-overhead hits counterhit, link stance jab and cancel into whatever you want

also, hibiki dp+k (which most people got), and kyo's 2nd overhead rekka into ground pound

maj gets an e-hug for successfully finding a loophole and mentioning that ken can juggle off of his funky kick overheads

a small number of characters can theoretically do a meatiest-possible overhead, then performing a one-frame link into standing jab xx whatever, but i'm glad nobody except maj brought up that possibility (and therefore made me have to test it)

14) Which character(s) Alpha Counters leave them at +10 frame advantage on block?
rolento, yuri. everybody forgets yuri :<

15) Not counting OTGs, Rolento knives, tech throw glitches or any other craziness, which character can do the most guaranteed damage off of a throw? (please also list the combo and the amount of damage)
c-iori vs rolento: command grab, walk up a little, close jab, close fierce xx level 2 rushy super, cancel on the first hit into level 1 pillar super, j.fierce, close fierce xx fierce DP (dizzy). j.fierce, close jab, close fierce xx fierce rekkas = somewhere over 10000 damage

a-todo: command grab, CC, [s.HP, c.HP, c.HP, s.HP... until 10 hits], [s.HP xx jab wave, c.HP xx jab wave] x N, jab wave xx level 1 wave super = 10000+ damage

k-todo: command grab, walk up, close strong, low fierce xx level 3 wave super = 10000 damage

16) Which two Japanese players did Buktooth defeat at Evo 2k6? :D
this was obviously a joke where i'm blatantly self-promoting myself like an aspiring bay area rapper, but the answer is nuki and daigo

...but seriously HOW COOL IS THAT THOUGH who else can say they eliminated both of those niggas from the same tourney right RIGHT??

17) Which character(s) do the 2p Cross Up Glitch NOT work on normally?
a lot more people remembered this than i thought would, the answer is hibiki

18) Other than being susceptible to OTG grabs, what is the A-Groove-related glitch that only works with Dan?
i was surprised how many people remembered this too. you can throw dan out of the invincible part of his CC activation unless he umm, jump installs it like GG

19) How does one perform the 'glitched' Bison headstomp?
this was an easy question, but i just want to bring up the glitched headstomp again so that maybe more people will begin using it. a number of people had sort of an idea how to do it, but answered it wrong still

the correct way to do it is to do a headstomp, pick a direction to fly off and hold it, then after bison steps on the dude and pops up to the apex of his bounce, let the stick go to neutral

20) Which character(s) may be juggled much lower to the ground than is normally possible?

chun li, cammy, guile. cammy and guile can't be juggled as low as chun, but there's still a lot of stuff you can do to them that can't be done normally

[FullMetalRoss]

That iori combo was the one I was talking about testing... But I'm lame and never got around too it.

[scrubydan]

what's so good about the bison glitched headstomp?

[FullMetalRoss]

its way way way harder to punish. cause he goes flying so far away.. not impossible but much harder.

[Maj]

kim's stance overhead leaves him at +5, which makes it pretty easy to link low short, stand short xx rushy super after it. this is pretty common actually

kim's normal overhead (f+rh) can be comboed after in a few different ways, though these are all a lot less practical:
-overhead, go into stance, kara cancel jab into rushy super (really hard)
-overhead, go into stance, kara cancel jab into launcher super (stupid impossible hard)
-overhead hits counterhit, link stance jab and cancel into whatever you want
Dang, the first two are hella sexy. Somebody needs to put those in a video, ASAP!

a small number of characters can theoretically do a meatiest-possible overhead, then performing a one-frame link into standing jab xx whatever, but i'm glad nobody except maj brought up that possibility (and therefore made me have to test it)
Yeah those links are HARD. If any meaty overhead combos do exist, i don't even want credit for mentioning them. I dunno why they made CvS2 overheads so laggy. I guess the CvS2 overhead policy is "make them impossible to combo off of, but give them hellllluva range." Almost all of them are negative on the frame advantage. And the closer you get to decent numbers, the smaller the active frame range gets, which means less room for decent meaty.

Kim's alternate stance overhead is really good though. You definately don't need meaty for that. I got kinda mixed up on that one, even though i've made combo clips using that as non-meaty.

Kyo ground pound combo was obvious. Dunno why more people didn't mention that. Maybe TOO obvious?

Actually C-Hibiki has a way of juggling off her overhead (http://sonichurricane.com/media/cvs2juggle.html) too, but i don't think it qualifies as a valid answer to the question because the setups are too limited. You need corner plus opponent in the air plus exact spacing plus one-frame timing. But it looks cool.

[Nescu69]

23) easy, easy and Haohmaru


aaaaaand Beni

lol wtf Rock has a 2 frame close forward... haha the cvs2 bible is pretty cool, if only someone could translate the stuff they have at the bottom of the pages

[vkuwabara]

13) Which character(s) can combo off of their manual overheads?

and how about Chun Li? corner: d/f+hk xx Kikoshou

[FullMetalRoss]

and how about Chun Li? corner: d/f+hk xx Kikoshou

First is that even an overhead? I don't remember but I don't think it is... And also it can be airblocked if you read the question he says not airblockable!!!!

[vkuwabara]

well, it's an overhead. Judging by her movement, I guess it's airblockable, sorry then

[Buktooth]

its way way way harder to punish. cause he goes flying so far away.. not impossible but much harder.

it also lets him get out of the corner much more safely than a random psycho crusher, and functions as a relatively safe attack which builds a large chunk of meter for bison. also, headstomp becoming really good in turn makes its companion move, the devil's reverse, much better

Dang, the first two are hella sexy. Somebody needs to put those in a video, ASAP!
i'm fairly sure i've seen kim overhead kara cancel into launcher super in a video before. i think it was in requiem?

and how about Chun Li? corner: d/f+hk xx Kikoshou
this is not an overhead, and it's also air-blockable

[ZZ_Jaron]

has any1 gotten it completely correct yet?

[Nescu69]

Just FYI, dash back rapes Headstomp attempts. Bison will just stomp the air infront, then land, and you can combo his kneepads off.

[UCRJesse]

1) What is the resulting frame disadvantage for Sagat if his low fierce is JDed? 3 frames

2) Which character(s) does Cammy have a special intro with? vice

3) Which character(s) can gain substantial frame advantage from their normal projectile, but only if the opponent is crouching? making up lies and shit

4) What color does Japanese player Iyo choose for his Rolento? fruity magenta

5) Which formerly-prolific CvS2 forums poster once criticized the usefulness of a move because it carried a -1 frame disadvantage? KCXJ

6) The top 8 CvS2 players at the first SBO were Daigo, Ino, Dan, Otaku, Version, Aojiru Guile, Tokido, and one other player. Who is the missing player? Nuki

7) Which character(s) do not require 'assistance' from their opponent to perform the Tech Throw Glitch? Raiden

8) Which super(s) can always punish Hibiki's strong slash attack on hit or block, regardless of range? Big psycho crusher, cammy super, rock super, guile super, blanka super.

9) What is the name of Gunter's site, which contains CvS2 information? namonaki

10) Which character(s) have shorter throw range than the rest of the cast? hibiki, that bitch sucks

11) Which background stage supposedly "slows down" while Bison is performing his corner CC? ice?

12) When Ino won Evo 2k4 against Daigo, what was printed on the front of his shirt? Jesus Died for you

13) Which character(s) can combo off of their manual overheads? (this excludes usage of CCs, Rolento knives, etc. ...and my crazy definition of manual overhead is an overhead that you can't airblock) Please list every example you can think of. hibiki's stupid overhead move

14) Which character(s) Alpha Counters leave them at +10 frame advantage on block? rolento/sim

15) Not counting OTGs, Rolento knives, tech throw glitches or any other craziness, which character can do the most guaranteed damage off of a throw? (please also list the combo and the amount of damage) rock and hibiki. Rock can do 360, fireblast, stand rh cancel into lvl 2 rising storm whiff counter, sweep into lvl 1 rising storm. hibiki can do custom off that shit but i don't think it takes off as much.

16) Which two Japanese players did Buktooth defeat at Evo 2k6? :D Nuki and Daigo

17) Which character(s) do the 2p Cross Up Glitch NOT work on normally? rolento/dan?

18) Other than being susceptible to OTG grabs, what is the A-Groove-related glitch that only works with Dan? dan sucks

19) How does one perform the 'glitched' Bison headstomp? do that shit meaty as fuck and stupid bison doesn't bounce up, he just lands and combos you. The other glitch is after stomp when you hold one direction and let go aka, flying crazy all over the screen

20) Which character(s) may be juggled much lower to the ground than is normally possible? chun li and CAMMY. Cammy is one specific example (i think bison can sweep her to juggle or something) that i found with Kim one day while mashing.

21) Which now-defunct website did Buktooth's Frame Data Trainer guide first debut on? www.video-opera.com or that shitty combo site that tragic had that never worked.

22) At Evo 2k2, who was Tokido's reserve character to pull out against K-Groove players? honda

23) Which character(s) have two-frame low jabs? chun and bison

24) Which character(s) CANNOT be crossed up by Cammy's jumping short kick while crouching? (excluding crazy-meaty set ups). iori/sakura

25) Utilizing an exploit (not so much a glitch), which character(s) can theoretically 'stick to the wall' indefinitely? the sweet deceptive ninja

26) How do you perform Joe's 'Baku-Cancel'? (knowing what a Baku-Cancel is is part of the question) combo off the 4th hit of the strong hands by tapping the buttons in whatever rythym you use.

27) Which Southern-California former player was affectionately referred to as "P-Daddy"? Geo?

28) Who released the first-ever full-length CvS2 combo video? What was it called? (and I have a nagging feeling I might be wrong here) Sai-rec/harvest

29) Who does Midwest player VDO always choose as his ratio 2 character? Dude alternates between geese and raiden, i played him at ecc and he used both

30) Which character gets up off of the ground at the slowest rate? rugal

[Nescu69]

23) Which character(s) have two-frame low jabs? chun and bison AND BENIMARU AND HAOHMARU


edit: you can thank me later

[Hail And Kill]

haohmaru doesnt hjave a 2 frame jab.... the only chars with c.jab thats 2 frames is bison, chun li, and beni. thats it.

Edit: wait! nvm, you're right hoahmaru does have a 2 frame jab. my mistake.

[ohayo1234]

i think ryu has a two frame low jab, keith on the other hand has a 20 frame low jab

[Hail And Kill]

ryu doesnt have a 2 frame jab. its 3.

[Nescu69]

i think ryu has a two frame low jab, keith on the other hand has a 20 frame low jab

2 frame s. jab, which let's me do my ultimate tactic of








dash, close jab, s. fierce xx Shinku HADOOOOOKEN!

[popoblo]

should've saved that shit for nationals.

[Nescu69]

should've saved that shit for nationals.

i fear it's power :sad:

[scrubydan]

i think kyo has a 2 frame CLOSE standing jab, correct me if i am wrong

edit: oh nvm the question was low jab my mistake!

[Nescu69]

lotta characters have 2 frame jabs...when they're upclose and standing...and most of them are duckable by most characters.

[noodle]

lotta characters have 2 frame jabs...when they're upclose and standing...and most of them are duckable by most characters.
24) Which character(s) CANNOT be crossed up by Cammy's jumping short kick while crouching? (excluding crazy-meaty set ups). iori/sakura

vega should be on that list.

[Igotthacoy]

I shoulda known all this shit. Keepign hearing random things form that man for like years(months)

[Igotthacoy]

Can we get 20-30 please?

[Nokato]

At work while I'm fighting off being sick lol...Good read. Fun too actually--suprised how much I did know, saddened by some things I didn't. Awesome anyways.

[Igotthacoy]

he still isn't finsihed! imma go cough on him

[Atb_555]

I actually had a vid on my PC of the Kim overhead combo. Was posted by this guy: http://www.neoempire.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19849&postcount=200 but I cant seem to download it again and the dude rarely posts now.

[RagingStormX]

Yamazaki can low jab xx dust xx slash after his f+mp.

["Mc`enddy"]

11)
19) How does one perform the 'glitched' Bison headstomp?
this was an easy question, but i just want to bring up the glitched headstomp again so that maybe more people will begin using it. a number of people had sort of an idea how to do it, but answered it wrong still

the correct way to do it is to do a headstomp, pick a direction to fly off and hold it, then after bison steps on the dude and pops up to the apex of his bounce, let the stick go to neutral


The glitched Bison headstomp is extremely useful, but there is a very simillar and more effective way of doing it.

"Do a headstomp and pick "any" direction to fly and hold it, then after steps on the dude and pops up to the apex "TAP" any direction again." Note that i said "TAP" and not "HOLD" because if you hold a direction after the stomp the glitch doesnt work.

Options:
From 1p or 2p side
Stomp, hold Left and then fly Left screen
Stomp, hold Left and then fly Right screen
Stomp, hold Right and then fly Right screen
Stomp, hold Right and then fly Left screen

Regards