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MAGUS1234
02-25-2007, 04:23 PM
Ok that actually worked better than anything Ive done, BUT im getting a "no ident response" ? error

you know what that means?

nevermind I got it/....woot! that only took 3 months...lol

Spooty Whiteboy
02-25-2007, 05:18 PM
Oh, and I don't think 11,000 is going to be possible.

Well, I was wrong. The new number to beat is over 11,000.

http://files.filefront.com/TR_Delga_11756rpy/;6809872;;/fileinfo.html

That's right...ax-whiff freedom loop. That shit is hard.

Xenozip.
02-25-2007, 05:35 PM
^ That's crazy. You damn crazy spooty fool.
I main F-Siely though, I'll probablly end up switching to M though after seeing that damage scaling post. Siely really has no huge advantages in Freedom so... yeah. M-Siely has no real advantages over T or F.

As Magus pointed out, F-Siely's primary strength is using the point system to your advantage. M-Siely really just gets owned by the point system.

Most of the combos I see people do with F-Siely generally do 2k-3k, but they also build an extremely large amount of points. The points allow Siely to do high/low mixups without the risk of getting punished until she successfully hits the opponent and does another combo that does 2k-3k -- that means even though the second combo isn't guaranteed, it's very likely that it will connect, so you're actually doing 2(3)k-6k plus chip damage. Her numbers don't look impressive but if you watch some matches closely you can see that she's still able to eat away at the opponents life bar fairly consistently by doing her special-cancel lockdown in Freedom mode.

T-Siely is rather strong too, though. Her 214b attack has a large amount of autoguard frames, auto-targets, and if down air-to-ground gives frame advantage. This gives her fireball->uppercut traps and safe left/right mixups. She also does comparable damage to F-Siely, only with much less work.

Personally I still think T-Siely is much better for a lot of match-ups. Although F-Siely can certainly destroy certain characters as well.

Sticky
02-28-2007, 01:30 PM
I think my video is a little messed up because whenever someone dashs backward (backward only, forward is normal) they disappear for the dash and reappear when its done. Anyone have this problem or know any fixes?

Thanks

Xiii
02-28-2007, 02:15 PM
What kind of videocard do you have? Also do you have DirectX9.0C installed?

Sticky
02-28-2007, 02:26 PM
Yes I have Directx 9.0c I have a Nvidia geforce 7300 LE

Maybe I should reinstall hmmm

D'Nyc3
02-28-2007, 03:05 PM
Question.

How come when I enter network the game freezes...

Any ideas?

Shin Touyokouzan
02-28-2007, 03:45 PM
Question.

How come when I enter network the game freezes...

Any ideas?

Yeah, Come to the IRC room and i will explain everything you need to know =P.

lol anyway. Just forward port 2300 tcp on your router or firewall. Should fix the problem.

Join my IRC room anyway <3

Dark Geese
02-28-2007, 07:21 PM
I am interested I am just waiting to gain access to the gain via console to hit it up hardcore.

Im interested in this, Arcana Hearts, Battle Fantasia, all that shit just to give it a chance, support the scene and knowing me I'll probably like it!

:china:

Xenozip.
02-28-2007, 10:44 PM
Youtube is scheduled for maintenance or something, but the Optimal PowerBreak (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwS7acBBcUQ) vid went live before the downtime, so check it out when YouTube is up.

Also I made some updates to my blog (http://xenozip.blogspot.com/). I'll start doing match vids again soon, got some really good ones recently.

Xenozip.
03-01-2007, 06:33 AM
Updated first post with direct links to match/combo vids on my youtube.

G@B0
03-01-2007, 12:21 PM
Good video. Interesting the Ryougen one.
And that for Rail was very good although I have others.
If u are going to make a video of high damages attacks you can count on the replays put in here and I can upload mine. I think I don't have enough time to prepare a video with high combo attacks.

Nice video Xeno. Keep up the good work.

Xenozip.
03-01-2007, 12:39 PM
Added some more vids to the first post.

Malice
03-01-2007, 01:58 PM
Hey I play this game now, anybody want to get on and play? ^_^

Sticky
03-01-2007, 02:05 PM
Cant connect to you from some reason malice :(

Shin Touyokouzan
03-01-2007, 02:05 PM
hmmm
ill get online now if anyone wants to play

Sticky
03-01-2007, 09:06 PM
Ahh I fixed the backwards dash error, just reinstalled it. Must have been in error when I extracted it.

Sticky
03-01-2007, 09:24 PM
btw does anyone know where to find a good PS2 - USB connector?

I'm sick of keyboard :(

Xiii
03-01-2007, 11:05 PM
Radio Shack aka The Source.

Malice
03-02-2007, 03:39 AM
I'm on right now...it's like 4:41 in the morning here...lol anybody wanna play? n_n Just AIM me....EloquentCorpse is the SN.

BlakHayato
03-02-2007, 05:10 AM
You don't play M Rail like you would F Rail.

M Rail is more about the keepaway then LOL GET IN CORNER AND SPAM 214A combos.

Play someone like Fooligar's M Rail and you will see. ;(
I fought him on my first net game. LMAO good stuff.... Needless to say, I lost 17 times in a row, but I'm glad he went and mimicked me and used M Rail after the first loss because I now know his potential right off the bat. :looney: :rofl: ....I didn't win a round btw. :sweat:
The suspicion! Well since I don't remember what it was, I spent 5 minutes just doing a different Rail combo for you instead, but while doing it, I was experimenting with Monster Rail and right now I'm trying to break 9K with him. I'll upload a replay in about 10 minutes whether I can find a way or not.

And no, I don't press F2 or F4 anytime before or during that combo.

EDIT: http://www.sendspace.com/file/jx68r7
There you go, 5 replays of different combos.

- 8915 Damage
- 8963 Damage
- 9041 Damage
- 9194 Damage
- 9293 Damage

Pretty sure most or all 5 of them are all in Monster.Can someone reupload (or youtube)? or are these outdated in newer versions and don't apply?

Shin Touyokouzan
03-02-2007, 05:59 AM
I'm on right now...it's like 4:41 in the morning here...lol anybody wanna play? n_n Just AIM me....EloquentCorpse is the SN.

Malice your addicted huh =P

AyaImmortal<---

Xiii
03-02-2007, 06:18 AM
Can someone reupload (or youtube)? or are these outdated in newer versions and don't apply?

Here's the last one. 9293 dmg combo.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/9ufgnc

Malice
03-02-2007, 06:40 PM
I'm on now, who wants to play? ^_^

Harem
03-02-2007, 07:39 PM
I'm on now, who wants to play? ^_^

I'll play you. :lovin:

Sticky
03-03-2007, 04:26 PM
damn.. nice combo xii

Anyone think this will work nice with an HRAP ?

http://www.consolesource.com/ecomm/catalog/PS2-To-PC-USB-Dual-Adapter-p-25.html

rogueyoshi
03-03-2007, 04:33 PM
damn.. nice combo xii

Anyone think this will work nice with an HRAP ?

http://www.consolesource.com/ecomm/catalog/PS2-To-PC-USB-Dual-Adapter-p-25.html
go for super joy box, or the radio shack adaptor. ive never seen that brand before.

KING
03-03-2007, 04:35 PM
damn.. nice combo xii

Anyone think this will work nice with an HRAP ?

http://www.consolesource.com/ecomm/catalog/PS2-To-PC-USB-Dual-Adapter-p-25.html
...dunno if that will work, but the one i got from Radio Shack for $10 works just fine with my HRAP...

Shin Touyokouzan
03-03-2007, 04:52 PM
damn.. nice combo xii

Anyone think this will work nice with an HRAP ?

http://www.consolesource.com/ecomm/catalog/PS2-To-PC-USB-Dual-Adapter-p-25.html

I believe i just played you not to long ago. Guess you had to go or something. My name was AyaSenpai. Good games.

Xiii
03-03-2007, 08:44 PM
Also as a reminder! Go to http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=127492 for info on the 2nd US Ranbat for Monster that's taking place tomorrow.

BlakHayato
03-04-2007, 01:51 AM
Is there any DC to PC adapters that I can buy at an actual STORE. If not I'll have to go with PS2 one, which I don't like much for FGs.

Sticky
03-04-2007, 11:04 AM
I believe i just played you not to long ago. Guess you had to go or something. My name was AyaSenpai. Good games.

Yea that was me.. sorry I'm really bad at this game :rofl:

and I have a keyboard :sad: , trying to learn F-Rail.

GGs though, your good :)

Sticky
03-04-2007, 11:23 AM
go for super joy box, or the radio shack adaptor. ive never seen that brand before.

Do you know the name of the radio shack one?

lol you totally wrecked me a couple days ago.. GGs :rofl:

Xiii
03-04-2007, 12:05 PM
Sorry about leaving like that Sticky. I had torrents on and i was warming up against the CPU. If that ever happens again, don't mind it and join me again. I usually only leave after like 5 matches if there isn't a problem.

Sticky
03-04-2007, 12:33 PM
Sorry about leaving like that Sticky. I had torrents on and i was warming up against the CPU. If that ever happens again, don't mind it and join me again. I usually only leave after like 5 matches if there isn't a problem.

Haha no prob buddy, I thought that you didn't want to fight me cause I'm no challenge so that was understandable. All good thought and I will def challenge you again :tup:

Shin Touyokouzan
03-04-2007, 02:05 PM
Haha no prob buddy, I thought that you didn't want to fight me cause I'm no challenge so that was understandable. All good thought and I will def challenge you again :tup:

JOIN THE IRC ROOM!!!

Sticky
03-04-2007, 02:26 PM
I will if I ever get mIRC, I don't know anything about it really.

Shin Touyokouzan
03-04-2007, 03:29 PM
MIRC.com go go go go go TOurny tonight too! Lots of comp come out and get beat up!

rogueyoshi
03-04-2007, 03:46 PM
I will if I ever get mIRC, I don't know anything about it really.
http://chat.efnet.org/ - java client for irc

join #8105monster

Xiii
03-04-2007, 08:03 PM
Newest 03/04/2007 RanBat results:

1st GimmeThemShoes (M-Othello) 10 points
2nd L3land (M-Delga) 12 points
3rd fooligar (T-Maya) 5 points
4th Xiii (M-Aleksandr) 8 points
Tied for 5th RogueYoshi (M-Othello, F-Siely) 10 points, Spootz (F-Delga) 3 points
Tied for 7th Shardz (T-Siely) 1 point, XAQshinor (F-Rail) 1 point
Tied for 9th Harem (T-Katze) 2 points, rashreflection (M-Delga) 1 point, zkdfsyufa (M-Rail) 2 points, MURPHAGATOR (M-Rail) 1 point
Tied for 11th Sticky (F-Rail) 1 point, KOH (T-Katze) 1 point, Rusheddown (T-Siely) 2 points, Khris (M-Katze) 2 points


Brackets: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=207802


EDIT: fixed

Sticky
03-04-2007, 08:58 PM
Newest 03/04/2007 RanBat results:

1st GimmeThemShoes (M-Othello) 10 points
2nd L3land (M-Delga) 12 points
3rd fooligar (T-Maya) 5 points
4th Xiii (M-Aleksandr) 8 points
Tied for 5th RogueYoshi (M-Othello, F-Siely) 10 points, Spootz (F-Delga) 3 points
Tied for 7th Shardz (T-Siely) 1 point, XAQshinor (F-Rail) 1 point
Tied for 9th Harem (T-Katze) 2 points, rashreflection (M-Delga) 1 point, zkdfsyufa (M-Rail) 2 points, MURPHAGATOR (M-Rail) 1 point
Tied for 11th Sticky (T-Siely) 1 point, KOH (T-Katze) 1 point, Rusheddown (T-Siely) 2 points, Khris (M-Katze) 2 points


Brackets: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=207802

lol I was using F-Rail but s'all good :tup: ggs all

ShardZ
03-05-2007, 03:15 AM
oops, guess it WAS posted.. ha.
good times, I did about as well as I could have so I can't complain. FL pwned, wtf? :p

Xenozip.
03-05-2007, 12:06 PM
Sorry I didn't make it. Hope everyone had fun. Looking forward seeing the replays, and to the next one.

Xiii
03-05-2007, 02:41 PM
2nd Official US RanBat replays: http://www.sendspace.com/file/gnvxe0

Xenozip.
03-06-2007, 06:33 PM
Very good games Hyuga. You seem to be learning really quick.

Hope we can play more in the future. You should come hang out in the IRC channel -- on Efnet #8105Monster

Hyuga
03-06-2007, 07:02 PM
GGs to you too Xeno. Your Maya and Orju make me want to cry... in the corner... aloud... with my Teddy Bear...

I only play a couple of hours a week, so I'm not nearly as competitive as all you crazy bastards.

Harem
03-07-2007, 04:59 PM
Sorry about that Malice.

I was AFK when you joined. =(

Xenozip.
03-07-2007, 05:41 PM
Good games gl0ry. Glad to see you're not using Efleet anymore. Sorry I kept stealing wins.

4649
03-08-2007, 09:10 PM
gg's in casuals go out to Spootz and L3land, the two best Delga players on the EC and probably in the US. You guys are ridiculous ( and I mean that in a good way ). I think I only stole like one match off of Spootz and couldn't even get a round in on L3land, keep showing fools that east coast fiyaah :D

the next ranbat should be interesting....

Xenozip.
03-08-2007, 10:05 PM
GG's peek-at-chuu

Josh-TheFunkDOC
03-10-2007, 11:06 AM
GGs to, um, everyone I played over the past few days. =)

Delga mirrors are the BESTEST

ILLiterate
03-10-2007, 12:58 PM
Hey, the download link from the SimulationStyle site only redirects me to the main page, and I can't get it to work

Anyone have another link or can send me the file?

Xiii
03-10-2007, 06:38 PM
Check my sig.

ILLiterate
03-11-2007, 12:34 AM
Horrah, tomorrow will be a good day

MAGUS1234
03-11-2007, 01:14 AM
yes, another california player.
I feel so lonely

MiLky
03-11-2007, 02:44 AM
yes, another california player.
I feel so lonely

Yes, more west coasters PLEASE, only ones I can play a decent game with from this bastard island.

Darkstalker
03-11-2007, 03:05 AM
Yaaay. I played one online match just now. Laggy a bit, but not too bad (compared to how crappy my online connections were last time).

Played runaway M-Rail vs an F-Katze. Only that person was online, so I challenged him. Beat the guy, but he dc'ed me before my victory was recorded.

So yeah, that's one thing I'd like to change. Currently, my stats look like 1 loss out of 5 matches, 0 wins (I believe I won 3 now, and 1 dc'ed because of HORRENDOUS lag).

So...like, is there a way to put up stats immediately after you won a round or something?

MiLky
03-11-2007, 03:50 AM
Yaaay. I played one online match just now. Laggy a bit, but not too bad (compared to how crappy my online connections were last time).

Played runaway M-Rail vs an F-Katze. Only that person was online, so I challenged him. Beat the guy, but he dc'ed me before my victory was recorded.

So yeah, that's one thing I'd like to change. Currently, my stats look like 1 loss out of 5 matches, 0 wins (I believe I won 3 now, and 1 dc'ed because of HORRENDOUS lag).

So...like, is there a way to put up stats immediately after you won a round or something?

No it's a common annoyance. I actually get challenged by alot of Japanese players, and it's laggy, so I wait to make sure they want to play before I start. They tend to DC after losing a round or just do it right after losing the match, before it is recorded. My record should be way better, so I just ignore my stats. But yes, it is irritating as fuck.

Xiii
03-11-2007, 04:38 AM
Shouldn't pay any attention to record. It really doesn't matter. I wipe my own record once in awhile just because the amount of wins/losses you have no your record don't really mean anything. Player with 100 wins could still beat a player with 1000 wins, just depends on skill and what the match-up is.

Darkstalker
03-11-2007, 05:40 AM
I know that.

But I just like nice records. :P

Still, the match was fun. I'll try going in again and hoping for not so screwy lag after dinner...

Rhio2k
03-11-2007, 05:59 AM
I gotta get back into this game. I've been gone too long.

Darkstalker
03-11-2007, 06:44 AM
Meh, everyone keeps dcing me. :(

Xiii
03-11-2007, 06:52 AM
What's your game name Darkstalker?

Darkstalker
03-11-2007, 07:02 AM
Darkstalker

>_>

Xiii
03-11-2007, 07:08 AM
If i ever see you on, I'll try to see if I can connect to you. My game name is the same as on SRK as well.

Darkstalker
03-11-2007, 07:50 AM
Sweeet. I played this Jap dude at 25 fps or so (I just realised out that thing in between the lifebars is the framerate) twice, and won both times.

First time he was using T-Siely. Caught me a few times in Siely's block strings, but power breaks took care of that.

Second he used T-Rail (...okay). Really close first match, he played runaway. While the slight changes are notable, there isn't the huge damage boost that M-Rail gets that defines the runaway style and give good damage.

Connected to another guy, AKIRA (at 35 fps...my best so far, yay!). Good games! I lost to his F-Orju once...then fought his T-Siely four times, I think...won thrice, lost once.

I think I managed to save a few of the replays too, though I'm not sure how to upload them and where...

EDIT: Some other things, he managed to rape me with rushdown a few rounds (most of them were close, but he had some rounds where he'd have like, more than half life left by the end of it). Since I rarely play online, I'm not sure how to cope with F-Orju rushdown switch sides mixup and continuous Siely corner attacks spammage so I just tried random shit.

And thanks for the offer, XIII.

EDIT EDIT: Found the replays. How/where do I upload them?

EDIT EDIT EDIT: http://www.sendspace.com/file/8zhgip <---- craptastic replays. Thanks to the guys in the chatroom for the sendspace suggestion.

Clear Sky
03-11-2007, 08:05 PM
Wow, when did they add stats?

4649
03-11-2007, 08:30 PM
Random #8105Monster tourney happened tonight. How random, you ask?

<ShardZ> shoe
<rashPOKER> BINGO BANGO BONGO VINCE
<Xiii> horse rat
<ShardZ> cockatile
<Rithli> fruit loops

that random. GGs to all.

1. Rash/JoshtheFunkDoc
2. AyaSpootz ( no doubt the result of Aya-sempai and Spootz fusing their being into one monstrosity possessed by Orjuice )
3. Rithril
4. Turbovec
5. AngryLobster, PotemKhris

Coming soon: Next ranbat (at some point) and 2 man Team Tourney! Join the IRC channel now or you'll miss out

sorry for the x post, why are there two threads for this still >_>

Spooty Whiteboy
03-11-2007, 09:03 PM
I need to work on my vs. Delga. Because, no offense RashReflection, but I think I'm the better Delga. I just have no idea how to deal with him. GGs to all I played though. AyaSpootz is teh winnar.

Josh-TheFunkDOC
03-11-2007, 10:43 PM
Gonna post this in the online forum too...

yeah, playing against l3land helped me get some idea of what to do in that match. It's all good tho, I was just lucky because it was laggy and that really hurts freedom. I'm up for more matches whenever. =)

Good stuff everyone, and hope to be back for the next ranbat! We need team tourneys too. =)

Also, the funny part about all this, as I said in IRC, is I was in a $25 poker tournament at the same time, and had to auto-fold during my matches! Then, literally RIGHT AFTER grand finals, I got pocket aces and almost tripled up - ended up finishing 5th out of 100+, for a cool $180. Multi-tasking & luck FTW

Later everybody,
Josh.

Shin Touyokouzan
03-12-2007, 01:08 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=H-Y4yK6XMq8

This is the trailer for the video the american monster players are making! be on the look out!

ILLiterate
03-13-2007, 02:24 PM
The game is fun, and pretty combos, I'll be playing a lot of this

ShardZ
03-14-2007, 06:37 AM
New patch... TOMORROW?!?! :O

Xiii
03-14-2007, 06:49 AM
Yes you noob, but you shall never get your hands on it before me!

Be in the #8105Monster IRC Channel tomorrow to be one of the FIRST to get your hands no Patch 1.01!

Melfice_Cyrum
03-14-2007, 02:07 PM
Ugh, I've been so swamped with school lately that I haven't been able to play much. I honestly need to try to get back into playing, though I'm going to suck :P Oh well. Hopefully spring break next week will give me the time I need to work on my game.

That, and summer vacation should help out as well.

Mystic_bash
03-14-2007, 04:06 PM
I play this everyonce in awhile. Is katze a good character? I'll walk into the irc channel everynow and then.

Rhio2k
03-14-2007, 04:18 PM
Got back into it today...just played reshreflection. Good Delga.

Shin Touyokouzan
03-14-2007, 05:12 PM
Got back into it today...just played reshreflection. Good Delga.

IRC room... Join it now!

Xiii
03-14-2007, 07:05 PM
I play this everyonce in awhile. Is katze a good character? I'll walk into the irc channel everynow and then.

Katze is a solid character and has very good pressure that is more varied, but less safe than Othello's. When they fix a couple random things about Katze, he will be better than he is now.

eddymasta
03-14-2007, 07:20 PM
Katze is a solid character and has very good pressure that is more varied, but less safe than Othello's. When they fix a couple random things about Katze, he will be better than he is now.

Once they do that, i'll prolly start playing again. Right now Katze is giving me too many headaches with his randomness :sweat:

Mystic_bash
03-14-2007, 08:31 PM
Katze is fun as hell to play, Any bnb combos?

Spooty Whiteboy
03-14-2007, 08:50 PM
Katze is fun as hell to play, Any bnb combos?

IRC Chat. #8105Monster

I would just help you on here...but I don't know Katze. Someone in the room might though.

Mystic_bash
03-15-2007, 11:41 AM
Sounds good, I usually just spend my time in srkgd on mirc though.

Rhio2k
03-15-2007, 04:00 PM
IRC room... Join it now!

I don't do IRC. EVERY time I've done it before (not here, but MANY other places), I'm in a full room, and either nobody's saying shit, or 2 valley-girl/boy yuppy types (complete with "lol oh-my-gawd...get out. he did NOT!" posted in disbeliefe) are talking back and forth with a friend they see every day about pointless shit they did when they went to see so and so movie with Dustin, and ignoring anything you type, while 20 or so other people are in the same room and not saying shit. I'm not fucking with it ever again. Bad experiences.

Xenozip.
03-15-2007, 04:22 PM
-snip- I know exactly what you're talking about. But it depends where you go, just like with anything. I suppose you'd probably hate forums too if your only experiences with them was with Gaia and sites like Gaia.

Although, what you're saying is generally what happens to IRC channels over time when the topic dies/gets old. But when the topic is fresh then people talk plenty, and generally avoid stupid shit, during reasonable hours.

Right now the Monster channel has about 20 regulars (mostly EC) and most of the conversations are about Monster or Monster related. It's good for setting up matches with people, talking about combos and strats, sharing replays or links to vids, glitch and balance discussion, getting news updates on upcoming patches, tech support, participating in the ranbats, and stuff like that. I'm not saying it's going to stay that way forever, but at least it's good for right now since Monster is still relatively new and interesting.

Most of the conversations over the past month have had actual content related to Monster. People naturally tend to idle during sleep hours, except for the insomniacs, and it's less busy during business hours. But generally the channel is doing good right now.

Henaki
03-15-2007, 05:15 PM
no offense but saying "join irc" is kind of dick because you're simply withholding information for almost no reason. you're making people jump through a meaningless hoop.

Spooty Whiteboy
03-15-2007, 05:16 PM
no offense but saying "join irc" is kind of dick because you're simply withholding information for almost no reason. you're making people jump through a meaningless hoop.

or we are trying to make the community grow by forcing everyone into the same room so people of all skill levels can discuss the game.

Xenozip.
03-15-2007, 07:39 PM
no offense but saying "join irc" is kind of dick because you're simply withholding information for almost no reason. you're making people jump through a meaningless hoop. IMO the opposite is true. By refusing to join an IRC channel (which is no hassle AT ALL) you're forcing us to repost information and conversations that we've already gone over. That's more of a hoop than having to join the channel.

Not that it's the point of IRC anyway. There's four primary purposes for using IRC instead of the boards:
1) Match-making. You can see who's online because IRC provides a public chat "room" and you can ask people to play.
2) Small talk/chatting. We use IRC instead of spamming up the threads with "gg so-and-so, lol :)" x100.
3) Online Ranbats. No way these would ever take place without a chat room. Since Monster doesn't have a chat function we have to use IRC.
4) File transfers. Instead of having to upload replays, screenshots, and videos we can just send stuff over IRC easily.

As for the patches, you find out about the public releases when we do. Unless it's an unofficial/private release just for the testers. We would catch flak if we posted a link to a file that wasn't supposed to get a public release.

And as for the combos and strats, people should be posting those on the forums, but I really wouldn't expect anyone to just out of the blue. Really, people should be posting questions (or replays) in the thread so that answers can be posted.

Although, I personally feel match videos and combo videos speak louder than words, but maybe that's just me. But that's why I at least try to update my youtube page and blog when I have time.

Shin Touyokouzan
03-15-2007, 09:15 PM
no offense but saying "join irc" is kind of dick because you're simply withholding information for almost no reason. you're making people jump through a meaningless hoop.

I dont see why it is a problem. We simply just want people to have others to play WHEN they want to play. As well as have a growing community with it. When we say join the IRC room its more for the person who is looking for competition and information rather than have us find the information for you all the time. Monster has no online chat (yet) So it is really hard to communicate with people you do not know at all. Wouldnt you say? Maybe im just looking at it the wrong way.

Xiii
03-16-2007, 06:39 AM
no offense but saying "join irc" is kind of dick because you're simply withholding information for almost no reason. you're making people jump through a meaningless hoop.

It's about as meaningless as asking people to attend tournaments or buy 2D fighting games. If you care enough to support a scene/community, you deserve to receive a reward for it. Information is periodically posted in this or other Monster threads, but it's really not anybody's job in the channel to regurgitate information, important or not onto this thread. We all give sufficient information and help to get to the channel, the rest is up to you. If you don't like finding out things a couple days afterwards, then join us. If you don't care, then feel free to wait.

Xenozip.
03-16-2007, 04:25 PM
1.01 released http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/8105/

Also, I updated my blog and youtube pages, check sig.

Xenozip.
03-16-2007, 05:27 PM
Everyone:
- Backdashes are slower
- 5A attacks don't quick-cancel into themselves, so they are less spammable
- Air shift/burst will "float" near the ground so attacks always come out
- Absurd graphic changed
- Training mode F1 will increase points rapidly, a second press will PB the opponent
- Training mode F2 will increment the super stocks by 1 instead of max.
- Training mode F2 will reset post-absurd status
- Pausing during training mode may cause random glitches

__________

Maya:
- has a new j.2C move that ground slams opponent, can be blocked low
- 236a forward portals now move instantly to a set distance (tip of 2C range) and "float" there
- 236a forward portals can be done in the air (air 236a).
- 214a shadow palm no longer persists
- forward dash moves further and faster

- freedom 214a shadow no longer persists

- monster 236a no longer causes extended hit-pause/stun, range decreased

- tranq 214a disappears when Maya is hit

__________

Orju:
- crossup 3rd part of x3 nerfed
- 3rd part of [bash]x3 launches much higher

__________

[b]Othello
- Can no longer OTG with A+B while unshifted

- M-Othello is mostly unchanged

- freedom can no longer OTG with A+B either
- freedom A+B can be canceled very very quickly, allowing him to do extended ground combos

- tranq ground pound can OTG once, no follow up possible

__________

Ryougen / Aleksander / Rail / Efleet:
unchanged?

Xiii
03-16-2007, 05:36 PM
Rail and Aleks unchanged as well.

Xenozip.
03-16-2007, 06:25 PM
Delga and Maya really got nerfed.

Henaki
03-16-2007, 06:27 PM
just in reference to the point of "posting needless information over and over again", just post it once and bitch at people that don't read it :) i can understand a few of the other points i just think it would be nice to have at least posted the patch when people asked for it earlier.

Xenozip.
03-16-2007, 06:37 PM
-snip- The time that people asked for it it was not a public release, it was leaked. We couldn't post a direct link to it until Shok released it publicly or we'd catch flak for it. We did post a link to it once it was released publicly. We said we had it and you could have PM'd some one for it or you could have jumped on IRC like we suggested.

This time it wasn't leaked, only the beta testers had access to it up until 7:21 EST. So you guys had access to it when we did (by checking the main 8105graphics site).

Xenozip.
03-16-2007, 06:43 PM
Once they do that, i'll prolly start playing again. Right now Katze is giving me too many headaches with his randomness :sweat:
Ikusat discovered that Katze's 6c is different from his 5c. Apparently it's faster and more easily comboable off his A attacks. So 5a 6c is viable. Or 3a 6c (to avoid 236c).

Yay for Ikusat.

Rail is a lot more random than Katze. :bluu:

guyguyguyguy
03-16-2007, 06:49 PM
Rail has one change.

His 22a registers right away. Before there was a chance you could use a spirit attack and it would only shoot once if you did it too soon after 22a. Now it will always shoot two.

Xenozip.
03-16-2007, 08:17 PM
It's still seems proximity based. Like if you do 22a while the spirit is really far away it won't gain the trail until the spirit is close to Rail. Like if you do 214a 22a the spirit won't be powered up until it comes back across the screen.

I've noticed some weird properties with T-Rail's shifted charge 236b. For some reason it causes random powerbreaks while charging or right when you release it (before the spirit even does anything).

Other than that he seems the same to me. F-Rail's shifted 236a seems more "solid" but that could just be me.

The biggest changes seem to have happened to Maya and Othello. Poor Maya. Seems like M-Maya is actually comparable to the other shifts now that the other two got so nerfed.

Harem
03-16-2007, 08:20 PM
Katze's absurd is made of lol.

Seriously, wtf. ;_;

Infinites and throws galore whee~

Josh-TheFunkDOC
03-16-2007, 09:04 PM
Seconded re: Katze's absurd. People are talking about a ban, but we'll see - it IS really broken, but you basically can't afford to use it if you haven't already won a round.

One more general change for everyone:

- If you double jump straight up and *immediately* attack, you will drop straight down as you perform your air move. Does not work with up/forward or up/back.



Othello's 2B is noticeably slower, but it's not really a big deal since that was the worst of his low pokes to begin with.

And to go more into Delga:

- Only the Tranquility command grab is invincible now.

- Lower damage in general, though this seems to apply to everyone.

- Hitboxes are kinda different, some variations of Freedom combos don't seem to work.

- His overall damage in Freedom took a HUGE nerf. You won't get much more than 40% now.

He seems to have gained, well, nothing really.


Also, the netcode is messed up - most of us can only connect to a few people it seems.

Xenozip.
03-16-2007, 10:30 PM
I'm thoroughly amazed that Ryougen did not get toned down. He is still S tier above *everyone*. They may have adjusted gravity and damage very slightly but it hardly affects him, he's still way too fucking good.

Oh well.

Celestial Okami
03-17-2007, 02:06 AM
Looks like no more key-input display in training mode.

rogueyoshi
03-17-2007, 03:55 AM
press F6

Xenozip.
03-17-2007, 05:28 AM
I updated my blog and it has a quick-list of some changes. If you guys find any more changes please leave a post or a comment, thanks.

MAGUS1234
03-17-2007, 01:14 PM
the more I played, the more I think thats catseye is fine.
THe way I think about it is, if I an win a round and stock 3 bars I deserve to win. PLus it usually does about half health ...that aint bad

Xenozip.
03-17-2007, 02:58 PM
Yeah, I don't think it's that big of a deal.

MAGUS1234
03-17-2007, 04:38 PM
http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/8105/


re DOWNLOAD!!
GET THIS ONE

rogueyoshi
03-18-2007, 12:02 AM
http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/8105/


re DOWNLOAD!!
GET THIS ONE
YEAH!!!!!

Spooty Whiteboy
03-18-2007, 09:26 AM
And to go more into Delga:

- Only the Tranquility command grab is invincible now.

- Lower damage in general, though this seems to apply to everyone.

- Hitboxes are kinda different, some variations of Freedom combos don't seem to work.

- His overall damage in Freedom took a HUGE nerf. You won't get much more than 40% now.

He seems to have gained, well, nothing really.


Also, the netcode is messed up - most of us can only connect to a few people it seems.

OK. Here are my notes:

- Almost all hitboxes seem the same to me. All my combos work just fine. Although, universal gravity is stronger...so that might be why your variations aren't working.

- His Freedom damage wasn't really nerfed, everyone's damage scaling was increased. It just hurts freedom mode the worst.

- He lost is OTG super grab. Which is the worst nerf he got if you ask me.

- His command grab lost ALL invulnerability and about half it's range.

- The hit-stun on 5A was reduced. So A, A, A xx A no longer works.

- You can no longer combo into super grab from a guard-shift.

+ Hitbox on j.A is slightly larger now, making it easier to cross-up with.

4649
03-18-2007, 06:12 PM
Spur of the moment team tourney was tonight. and yeah, we probably should have done singles in retrospect considering there were complaints of lag issues, but never the less:

statistical breakdown:
rithli versus spootz - spootz wins it
khris versus spootz - spootz wins
xiii versus harem - xiii wins it
xiii versus turbovec - turbo wins
turbovec versus chibitajr - turbo beats the shit out of me and rapes my corpse :(
finals were 2 out of 3
harem versus magus - magus 2-0
harem says at this point, "How the fuck do you fight Ryougen?" he's right, that fool is broke
turbovec versus magus - magus 2-0

results:
1. Team Let's Rape Siely! - Magus (F-Ryougen/T-Katze)/ Spootz (F-Delga)
2. Team Death By Poonani - Turbovec (M-Othello)/ Harem (T-Katze)
3. Team We Hate Power Break - Xiii (T-Rail)/ 4649/ChibitaJr (T-Orju)
4. Team Katze Can't Afford Pants - Khris (M-Katze)/ Rithli (T-Katze) ( KURENAAAAIII NO BUTAAAAAAAA )

ggs everybody, next time we should definitely do singles. still no schedule as to the next ranbat, you can blame shin touyoukazan / aya for that, go to the IRC channel and slap him >;V

wolfox_okamicha
03-19-2007, 02:09 AM
My anti-virus is saying that the patch is a trojan... O.o

Shin Touyokouzan
03-19-2007, 06:00 AM
Spur of the moment team tourney was tonight. and yeah, we probably should have done singles in retrospect considering there were complaints of lag issues, but never the less:

statistical breakdown:
rithli versus spootz - spootz wins it
khris versus spootz - spootz wins
xiii versus harem - xiii wins it
xiii versus turbovec - turbo wins
turbovec versus chibitajr - turbo beats the shit out of me and rapes my corpse :(
finals were 2 out of 3
harem versus magus - magus 2-0
harem says at this point, "How the fuck do you fight Ryougen?" he's right, that fool is broke
turbovec versus magus - magus 2-0

results:
1. Team Let's Rape Siely! - Magus (F-Ryougen/T-Katze)/ Spootz (F-Delga)
2. Team Death By Poonani - Turbovec (M-Othello)/ Harem (T-Katze)
3. Team We Hate Power Break - Xiii (T-Rail)/ 4649/ChibitaJr (T-Orju)
4. Team Katze Can't Afford Pants - Khris (M-Katze)/ Rithli (T-Katze) ( KURENAAAAIII NO BUTAAAAAAAA )

ggs everybody, next time we should definitely do singles. still no schedule as to the next ranbat, you can blame shin touyoukazan / aya for that, go to the IRC channel and slap him >;V

Next ranbat is this weekend on sunday bitches. IRC that shit son! 7 pm eastern

Hideki-Motosuwa
03-20-2007, 12:03 AM
I usually don't come on SRK no more due to various reason but oh well......you can find me online from time to time. So far, everyone's dropped out from when I played them. Go figure.

Xiii
03-20-2007, 04:12 AM
You might want to try joining IRC if you want some matches, people in there usually don't leave during a match.

Shin Touyokouzan
03-20-2007, 05:19 AM
I usually don't come on SRK no more due to various reason but oh well......you can find me online from time to time. So far, everyone's dropped out from when I played them. Go figure.

No one in our irc room drops on anyone. So I would def suggest you come through and get some games in.

MiLky
03-20-2007, 06:22 AM
No one in our irc room drops on anyone. So I would def suggest you come through and get some games in.

You dropped on me... I know it was laggy as fuck, but that is still a bullshit statement, it's not like you asked if it was ok. I'm not starting shit, cause I love all you IRC folks, just saying you aren't the only one on that channel to drop on me, whether they knew it was me or not. Though I haven't had anyone drop on me when they were winning. Like when I joined you as Cockfag, yeah that was me being a drunk, we had a good match, came down to the wire, and good win to you by a hair! It was as fun a casual as you can have with lag like that. It was the same exact lag that you dropped to me after I smoked you in the first round we ever played in my previous statement.

I will still be about, just not as much, hoping for more west coast players to join up on the channel.

Point being, MY FUCKING ONLINE SENTENCE SAYS WEST COAST OR LAG! Also, you can see the lag easily before the match starts, so quit then, instead of when you are losing.

By the way, it is rare the IRC folks do this, I play alot of Japanese folks, and they are the FUCKING KINGS of dropping only when they are losing, so don't get butt hurt by my rant, I'm way more venting at the non IRC crowd.

</end rant>

Clear Sky
03-20-2007, 09:20 AM
^While the lag from coast to coast play most of the time is playable, low drops hamper mindgames since the lag gives both players more time to react to mixups than they would if they were to play offline. It's like playing ST on speed 1 instead of speed 3.

With that said, I've never played anyone on the west coast. Now if there are a few west coast players still playing, my interest in this game would probably spark up, because outside of a few east coast players, it's overall pointless to play EC players unless the netcode got even better.

Shin Touyokouzan
03-20-2007, 11:08 AM
Ignored until further notice of bullshit being resolved <_<.

Yeah I dropped because of a shitty connection. And you didnt smoke shit so why are you sitting here making shit up<_<. I personally will drop if the connection is shitty. That is a plausable reason to drop. Anyone would drop. It was worth trying anyway. I have had decent connections with WC players before. Its farfected but somewhat possible. If you have a problem with it dont try playing me. YOu can brag abou tbeating me in less than 30 fps if you like. Your such a great player<_<. This is the 3rd time you have brought this subject up. Its like you have something to prove. LEAVE ME ALONE WITH THE BULLSHIT kthxbai.

Xenozip.
03-20-2007, 01:52 PM
-snip- You use to use "b33r" with comment "is tasty" right? I remember playing you a long time ago, that shit was fun. We should play more often, I don't mind the lag. But just FYI if I drop it's not because I intended to, sometimes my internet connection inexplicably fails me and I have to rejoin.

Hit me up on IRC sometime.

MAGUS1234
03-20-2007, 02:11 PM
im always on IRC and im WC, beer we have good speed. SO drop a line if you in there.

same with you clear sky

Xenozip.
03-20-2007, 06:56 PM
http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/8105/


re DOWNLOAD!!
GET THIS ONE Yeah, for those who don't know: There was a second 1.01 released. The patch file name is the same but it's dated Friday, February 16th.

So if you downloaded the patch before then or if you check the properties and it's dated before then, then you need to update.

wolfox_okamicha
03-20-2007, 10:47 PM
Could somebody help me? Every time I download the patch, my anti-virus informs me that it is a trojan... O.o

MiLky
03-21-2007, 12:01 AM
YOu can brag abou tbeating me in less than 30 fps if you like. Your such a great player<_<. This is the 3rd time you have brought this subject up. Its like you have something to prove. LEAVE ME ALONE WITH THE BULLSHIT kthxbai.

I wasn't bragging, I was bitching. I have nothing to prove, I just get tired of only being dropped on only when I'm winning and you were just a recent example, that's all. Sorry if I hit a nerve, was unintentional. Read my post, I said I did play you under a different name, and it went down to the end of the final round, and you won... bragging psssh, I said good game. Also, I live in Hawaii and that's why west coast is the only good connections, though I've had rare average ones with the midwest. I was mainly whining about the Japanese that challenge me and do this, because it gets old.

I don't hate you aya, we should just not play, obviously I'll never meet your 52 FPS or not worth it standards. So lets just be positive as this community is still too fucking small to have beef. Squashed?

I am sure I am behind a bit having been around the same level as most I've played on here, before I was internetless for six weeks. I have no problem getting beat, how else will I learn and catch back up to you folks.

You use to use "b33r" with comment "is tasty" right? I remember playing you a long time ago, that shit was fun. We should play more often, I don't mind the lag. But just FYI if I drop it's not because I intended to, sometimes my internet connection inexplicably fails me and I have to rejoin.

Hit me up on IRC sometime.

Yeah we had some fun, laggy, games before I had to move and lost my internet for a while. I'll still play some scrubby lagtastic games with you for fun anytime.

im always on IRC and im WC, beer we have good speed. SO drop a line if you in there.


Yeah Mag, we had some fun games back then too, we were about even, it was back and forth the whole time. It will be fun getting raped by you now, but I'll learn from it and come back stronger, believe it!


Sorry if anyone got butthurt, I was just posting a rant after being dropped on by three Japanese players that challenged me only when they were losing, one even beat me the first game, then dropped 3rd round after I was almost about to finish him off. Then seeing that quote "nobody ever drops on anybody in IRC" was that damn last piece of straw, poor camel.

Anyway, I hope this community broadens a bit, it is a fun game.

Xenozip.
03-21-2007, 01:32 AM
-snip-

Anyway, I hope this community broadens a bit, it is a fun game.
I don't know why there's a lot more EC than WC right now. :|

Hopefully it broadens up as more patches are released and more combo/match videos are released. It's definitely a lot of fun, I currently don't have any complaints about it so IMO it can only get better from here.

MiLky
03-21-2007, 01:52 AM
im always on IRC and im WC, beer we have good speed. SO drop a line if you in there.

same with you clear sky

Lag spikes were random, but otherwise very tolerable, fun games. Thanks for raping the shit out of me. I am more behind than I thought, but I saw spaces for opportunities I missed here and there. I hate the Liger.

Had to go get some beer or I would have played more, did I win one round lol?

Shin Touyokouzan
03-21-2007, 04:01 AM
snip

I don't hate you aya, we should just not play, obviously I'll never meet your 52 FPS or not worth it standards. So lets just be positive as this community is still too fucking small to have beef. Squashed?



All good man. Back to getting the community to grow.

Shocky II
03-21-2007, 08:53 AM
Aya drops on me at the character select screen. I beat him through sheer force of will!

Shin Touyokouzan
03-21-2007, 09:36 AM
Aya drops on me at the character select screen. I beat him through sheer force of will!

THis must be get on aya time of the month. Just random nonsense being said <_<. I dont know what your talking about. If that happened it was probably due to the fact that the patch had not been fixed yet due to network issues. I dont drop on anyone unless its due to lag issues

Xenozip.
03-21-2007, 09:40 AM
Could somebody help me? Every time I download the patch, my anti-virus informs me that it is a trojan... O.o Umm, disable your anti-virus long enough to patch. It's not a trojan.

Make sure you have the full game and not the demo before you patch to 1.01.

FullMetalRoss
03-21-2007, 11:11 AM
I can never seem to find matches in this anymore. Though the channel has been fun! hehe.

I wish I could join one of the ranbats sometime. Whats up with allowing west coasters and such? Probably not much want to as the lag would be annoying.

MAGUS1234
03-21-2007, 12:52 PM
Lag spikes were random, but otherwise very tolerable, fun games. Thanks for raping the shit out of me. I am more behind than I thought, but I saw spaces for opportunities I missed here and there. I hate the Liger.

Had to go get some beer or I would have played more, did I win one round lol?-
delga just got sooo beat in the new version. GG's though and it was a kinda spikey but tolerable lag.

My advice is pick up ryougen, hes alot like old delga in brokeness but more fun

Spooty Whiteboy
03-21-2007, 03:30 PM
-
delga just got sooo beat in the new version. GG's though and it was a kinda spikey but tolerable lag.

My advice is pick up ryougen, hes alot like old delga in brokeness but more fun

Delga isn't too bad. In a non-lag situation...I think my Delga would go toe-to-toe with you.

CAN'T STOP THE DINO!

Harem
03-21-2007, 06:15 PM
GGs Hyuga.

Games were lot of fun.

You may want to try to stick with a single character though. ;p

wolfox_okamicha
03-21-2007, 11:58 PM
Umm, disable your anti-virus long enough to patch. It's not a trojan.

Make sure you have the full game and not the demo before you patch to 1.01.

Okay, but I am a bit worried, since the icon of the patch isn't the usual icon of the older patches, but more like a command window icon.

MAGUS1234
03-22-2007, 12:05 AM
^^

just re dl everything then, it should be that pizilated orange thing icon

Xenozip.
03-22-2007, 11:40 PM
I made a blog update (http://xenozip.blogspot.com/2007/03/footsies.html) that sort of applies to all fighting games and goes kinda deep into FG mechanics. I also made a video update (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Xenozip).

First post (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=3597416&postcount=1) updated with direct links.

Xiii
03-23-2007, 05:18 AM
Good post Xeno, though I would still have to say I still really like Rail's design. Overall I think he's the most versatile character design in Monster capable of doing everything quite effectively except for maybe taking advantage of PBs.

rogueyoshi
03-23-2007, 01:26 PM
Overall I think he's the most versatile character design in Monster capable of doing everything quite effectively except for maybe taking advantage of PBs.
which is probably most important. this is the reason he dies to orju (and maybe a maya with good reaction).

MAGUS1234
03-23-2007, 02:17 PM
he cant antiair he cant rush, he cant off pressure, his combos are weak. I dont know, he doesnt get my vote.

rogueyoshi
03-23-2007, 03:09 PM
he cant antiair he cant rush, he cant off pressure, his combos are weak. I dont know, he doesnt get my vote.
rail does have a corner 100%. also his projectile also comes out instantly, and it even beats meaty attacks.

Xiii
03-23-2007, 03:32 PM
He can't off pressure, but he can put it on. Then again most characters don't have a good way of getting out of corner pressure other than running away from it when they see a hole. Rail can apply pressure once he gets it going, getting it going can be difficult depending on the opponent, but once it's up, Rail can continue to pressure well.

Xenozip.
03-23-2007, 03:59 PM
capable of doing everything quite effectively except for maybe taking advantage of PBs.

I'm glad you haven't found the secret of Trail, then.

rail does have a corner 100%. also his projectile also comes out instantly, and it even beats meaty attacks.

Neither of his projectiles beat meaties. Nor does his bomb.

G@B0
03-24-2007, 06:56 AM
My fav is Rail. If u "charge" his spirit ball u can perform consecutive attacks and damaging ones.
This is a very skill character here. You can perform a lot of combos with him.

The problem is that if u trow a spirit ball and the other person use power break u are in danger.

Deadpool135
03-24-2007, 01:49 PM
Anyone else having major problems with monster today? For the past like 6 hours everything has been all freaky and messed up on it for me. Such as, same people showed up on the list for hours, everyone's name is really one below the one you click, and it took me to 1 player mode through online mode. Is this just happenin to me?

Xenozip.
03-24-2007, 02:34 PM
That happened to me once a while ago. I thought maybe it was because some one had some weird Japanese kanji that was screwing the list up, but I don't know for sure. I rebooted and it was fine, but maybe that was just coincidence.

Shocky II
03-24-2007, 09:39 PM
It's happened to me before with only American players on the list.

Xenozip.
03-25-2007, 06:38 AM
Added a few videos to the first post (or check my youtube). Fooligar and Rogue throw down some Othello madness.

It's happened to me before with only American players on the list. It's strange, I had it happen to me again today, but I was still able to join the person that I wanted to play by selecting another person on the list. He was at the second to bottom of the list but there were two unselectable slots, so I just picked the second from the bottom out of the ones I could highlight.

The second time we tried to play I didn't see him on the list at all, so I just used Direct-IP Intrude since he was on IRC.

Xenozip.
03-27-2007, 07:07 PM
Upped new vids to my youtube (http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Xenozip). Added direct links to first post (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=125722).

Also updated my blog (http://xenozip.blogspot.com/).

--

Does anyone else have any monster videos on youtube or google-video?

Also, please feel free to send me some good match replays if you want me to put them up on youtube. PM me or contact me on IRC. Remember to save good matches!

Josh-TheFunkDOC
03-28-2007, 06:40 PM
I just broke Delga.

Check the link in my sig for details.

Xenozip.
03-28-2007, 07:08 PM
I just broke Delga.

Check the link in my sig for details. Spooty and Magus beat you to it.

Xenozip.
03-29-2007, 04:15 AM
Thanks for the replays. Vids up (check first post for direct links).

More is always appreciated.

W3s
03-29-2007, 11:07 AM
Can someone PM me a link to the latest installation version of Monster?

I am trying to reinstall it viz the main website of monster but always get an error when trying to launch the game.

MAGUS1234
03-29-2007, 12:08 PM
http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/8105/
use this site W3s

Xenozip.
03-29-2007, 01:47 PM
That's for the patch. Get the game here (http://files.filefront.com/MONSTERzip/;6609330;;/fileinfo.html). Get the patch here (http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/8105/)

Shin Touyokouzan
03-31-2007, 01:55 PM
Ok bitches, ranbat in 1 hour! IRC BABY!

Emil
04-02-2007, 03:51 AM
Ok so I got up that new Monster combo video...I thought it was pretty good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaYJ6kqs5Gs

The music I don't think is that good of a choice though.

ToyRobotTerror
04-02-2007, 03:57 AM
furries?


EDIT: who is the ryu of this game?

Shin Touyokouzan
04-02-2007, 03:58 AM
Ok so I got up that new Monster combo video...I thought it was pretty good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaYJ6kqs5Gs

The music I don't think is that good of a choice though.


That was my video dude, I was going to upload it. I dont really have a reason to do it now... thanks.

Emil
04-02-2007, 12:02 PM
furries?


EDIT: who is the ryu of this game?

I'd say no one...only Katze has good DP priority, but he lacks fireballs or any other moves that are Ryu-like.

Xenozip.
04-02-2007, 12:22 PM
furries?


EDIT: who is the ryu of this game? Don't mind the graphics, the game is fun to play.

Ryougen and Katze generally appeal to CvS2/3S players -- Rail and Siely generally appeal to MB and GG players.

If you're looking for fireball->uppercut trap then T-Siely has that. If you're looking for good normals and a good DP then Katze has that. If you're looking for top tier then Ryougen and Othello are tops.

Clear Sky
04-02-2007, 10:39 PM
Did you guys have that ranbat yesterday? If so, what's the results, and do you have replays?

Xiii
04-02-2007, 11:23 PM
No ranbat yesturday.

Bluehaze
04-03-2007, 06:32 AM
What's the updated tier list for 1.01 US/JP?

Spooty Whiteboy
04-03-2007, 06:48 AM
What's the updated tier list for 1.01 US/JP?

This is my personal tier list. I play this game alot...so you can trust me...maybe:

S - Ryougen
A - Othello, Katze
B - Seily, Delga
C - Rail
D - Orju, Aleksandr, Maya

The only people I'm not completely set on is Orju might be C; Rail might be B; and Othello might be S.

Shin Touyokouzan
04-03-2007, 07:04 AM
This is my personal tier list. I play this game alot...so you can trust me...maybe:

S - Ryougen
A - Othello, Katze
B - Seily, Delga
C - Rail
D - Orju, Aleksandr, Maya

The only people I'm not completely set on is Orju might be C; Rail might be B; and Othello might be S.

Your list is pretty spot on. just a few minor changes

S ryougen/othello
A Katze
B siely/delga
C rail orju
D maya
E aleksander

This is as of 1.01

Xenozip.
04-03-2007, 07:28 AM
Also just FYI. the list assumes "optimal shift" (except Aleks). Some of those characters drop a rank or two when you use an atypical shift.

ZenFire
04-03-2007, 09:54 AM
I dl'd the thing called the online trailer, which I'm guessing is a demo of some sorts. Then I see a pricetag on the front page of their site and I'm wondering "this game isn't free, is it?". I'm dl'ing from filefront right now, but I'm not sure,am I pirating something right now? Are they ok with free distribution? Also, who wants to teach a noob how to play?

rogueyoshi
04-03-2007, 12:28 PM
Your list is pretty spot on. just a few minor changes

S ryougen/othello
A Katze
B siely/delga
C rail orju
D maya
E aleksander

This is as of 1.01
i could not agree with you more on that.

Shin Touyokouzan
04-03-2007, 01:35 PM
i could not agree with you more on that.

Why thank you sir =P

Spooty Whiteboy
04-03-2007, 03:28 PM
Your list is pretty spot on. just a few minor changes

The only differences between our two lists is the changes that I said could happen (cept for Rail maybe being B), and the fact that you put Aleksandr lower than Maya (which is true now that I think about). Overall...I agree with that list.

Xiii
04-03-2007, 03:45 PM
Aleksandr better move up in ranking when he gets specials or I'm gonna shoot somebody.

Shin Touyokouzan
04-03-2007, 04:35 PM
Aleksandr better move up in ranking when he gets specials or I'm gonna shoot somebody.

Lol, Start shooting then hahahaha

Master Chibi
04-03-2007, 04:57 PM
Wow, Siley moved up and Maya moved down.

Things have changed.

I still like M-Siley best, no matter how stupid she is because of it.

;p

Xenozip.
04-03-2007, 06:38 PM
Wow, Siley moved up and Maya moved down.

Things have changed.

I still like M-Siley best, no matter how stupid she is because of it.

;p Actually M-Siely moved up as well.

B: T-Siely / M-Siely
D: F-Siely

The changes to her command throw and the ability to oki spike with PA makes her pretty strong.

Master Chibi
04-04-2007, 02:18 PM
oooh

if i knew what the hell oki spike and pa meant i bet id be 20x more happy :3

guess i should patch this game up and play catch up ;p

Xenozip.
04-04-2007, 02:31 PM
oooh

if i knew what the hell oki spike and pa meant i bet id be 20x more happy :3

guess i should patch this game up and play catch up ;p After a b&b shift combo or shift cancel combo you're left with a lot of points, so she can pressure with meaty ice spikes into 50/50 traps. PA = "point advantage".

Check (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=search_videos&search_query=siely&search_sort=video_date_uploaded&search_category=0) my youtube for some of fooligar playing M-Siely.

I'm putting up more in a bit.

Xenozip.
04-04-2007, 04:16 PM
Well, rogueyoshi broke Othello. Good job, sir.

ZenFire
04-04-2007, 04:30 PM
Damn, I just spent the last two hours messing around with Katze in training mode, I really love this game's shift system. I especially liked the A Groove of shifts, freedom. You can do something like bison's paint the fence with his dp+A move in the corner, which I thought was a funny coincedence.

Btw, how do I paly online, I tried figuring out the network screen, but the whole intrude thing is a bit foreign to me.

Xenozip.
04-04-2007, 04:54 PM
Btw, how do I paly online, I tried figuring out the network screen, but the whole intrude thing is a bit foreign to me.
It's pretty simple. Intrude allows you to pick a game from the list of hosted games. Games that are "busy" can't be joined, but you can join "Open" games. The second option "Wait" enables you to host a game, turn it "on" so that other people can join you.

If you're behind a router/firewall, in order to host a game you need to have TCP port 2300 open.

If the list of games is empty then no one's hosting a game. In that case use IRC to join #8105Monster on EFnet, there's almost always some one there willing to play (during reasonable hours).

And naturally you need the latest patch to play other people, currently version 1.01.

MAGUS1234
04-04-2007, 05:46 PM
Well, rogueyoshi broke Othello. Good job, sir.

othello aint that bad

Xenozip.
04-04-2007, 05:50 PM
othello aint that bad

You ain't heard the news yet.

oyg
04-05-2007, 12:42 AM
Read the previous posts about my problem. Installing the game now. Woot.

Seems the filefront account doesn't have the game.. boo.

ToyRobotTerror
04-05-2007, 12:47 AM
That's for the patch. Get the game here (http://files.filefront.com/MONSTERzip/;6609330;;/fileinfo.html). Get the patch here (http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/8105/)
Anyone got a mirror of the game? Filefront just takes me to the first page when i try to download.

Henaki
04-05-2007, 01:06 AM
yea i put up the filefront link but now its just fuxxed at this point, dunno whats up. someone might want to mirror it or whatever.

Xenozip.
04-05-2007, 01:39 AM
If you stop by the IRC channel then I (or some one else) can send it to you. I'm sending it to oyg as I type this. I wouldn't really know where else to mirror it, so maybe some one else can?

(but at least I can send it)

ToyRobotTerror
04-05-2007, 02:50 AM
what irc channel?

Xenozip.
04-05-2007, 02:55 AM
what irc channel?

#8105Monster on EFnet

Xenozip.
04-05-2007, 03:31 AM
Ok, finally got off my lazy ass and made a Monster Vids (http://ikusat.mac.org/monster/uploads/monstervids.html) page so you can just click that instead of going through the first post.

Also, I added some new vids, so check it out.

ToyRobotTerror
04-05-2007, 03:39 AM
http://www.simulationstyle.com/doujin/MONSTER.zip

c&p it to flashget and it should work

oyg
04-05-2007, 11:43 AM
http://www.divshare.com/download/339351-02f

another monster.zip mirror. this stays up permanently until I deletes it.

Xenozip.
04-05-2007, 06:39 PM
Thanks guys. Appreciated.

Pimp Willy
04-06-2007, 12:35 AM
Tried playing a match online, is it always so damn laggy?

Xenozip.
04-06-2007, 12:51 AM
It shouldn't be. But you'll probably have a hard time finding other West Coast players.

Same-Coast connections aren't too bad at all. You should be getting 40-55 FPS with a same-coast connection.

Pimp Willy
04-06-2007, 01:12 AM
Yeah, I think I was connected to a FL player. Boo west coast.

Xenozip.
04-06-2007, 01:19 AM
Magus and celestial-okami are west coast. I think okami is online on the IRC channel right now if you're looking for some WC games.

Whodat
04-06-2007, 02:21 AM
Othello is broken!!!

I knew it was only a matter of time. I had experimented with something like rougeyoshi did, but I couldn't actually get it to work.

Xenozip.
04-06-2007, 02:27 AM
Well, some one said you could backdash out of stuff that "breaks" like that. Meaning, you can stand up so the does the point-reset thing, and then backdash out of it. I mean, if you stand up you still cannot block, but in theory you can backdash.

Not 100% sure yet though, haven't tested it much.

Also, rogue says that Maya also has one similar to it. I never got Maya's to work though.

Rail has one, but the damage is total crap so there's no point in doing it. :lol:

Whodat
04-06-2007, 04:41 AM
Hmmm... you're going to have to give me the notation of how to do the maya one in the IRC chat sometime. I couldn't seem to do one with her at all.

hold dat
04-06-2007, 05:55 AM
Hmmm... you're going to have to give me the notation of how to do the maya one in the IRC chat sometime. I couldn't seem to do one with her at all.


your name is Whodat? are we related? lol

Xenozip.
04-06-2007, 06:25 AM
Hmmm... you're going to have to give me the notation of how to do the maya one in the IRC chat sometime. I couldn't seem to do one with her at all. Sure. It may only work on crouching opponents and not link vs. standing, but I don't know. I didn't get it to work on a standing opponent at all.

your name is Whodat? are we related? lol
Haha, awesome. I thought he was you at first 'till I saw him post on SRK. :lol:

MAGUS1234
04-07-2007, 01:14 PM
Hey xeno what do I do from my MIRC screen to connectto the new server?
I am completely retarded to MIRC

Celestial Okami
04-08-2007, 03:46 PM
Magus - go to File > Select Servers. Servers > Add. In IRC server box, put irc.mizuumi.net, put whatever you want in description. Connect to the server, then go to #8105Monster as normal.

Shame on me if you figured it out already or if I gave bad instructions (mIRC newb here too).

Xenozip.
04-08-2007, 11:55 PM
If you want to be on both servers at the same time, you can.

File->Recent Servers->New Server Window

This opens another server window which allows you to join multiple servers at once.

In one server window go to File->Select Server->Connect->Servers..

Then push the "add" button and put in the name of the server, the server address, and the group name (yes, you have to put a group).

Then in the other server window do the same, but just put in the other server you want to connect to. Right now I'm on both Efnet and Mizuumi.

Shocky II
04-09-2007, 06:26 PM
Why are there two now?

TGS
04-10-2007, 03:14 AM
So... I'm thinking of getting back into this game... Man, I haven't touched this game since 1.0a. Anyways, what time do you WC people play? I'm in WC and hopefully there's more than one WC players now unlike back then when it was just me and MAGUS1234...

Xiii
04-10-2007, 03:41 AM
More so now, there's still only a hand full of WC players still, but I'm sure you'll be able to find more people to play. Just be warned, the game is very different from what you played in 1.0a now.

4649
04-10-2007, 06:54 PM
hi guys i'm not dead

Celestial Okami
04-11-2007, 01:25 PM
TGS - I'm a WC player who plays pretty regularly on Mondays and Tuesdays (see my sig), but around mid-May when summer starts I'll probably play more often as college will go into summer school.

Killey
04-11-2007, 04:34 PM
TGS - I'm a WC player who plays pretty regularly on Mondays and Tuesdays (see my sig), but around mid-May when summer starts I'll probably play more often as college will go into summer school.

Sup Okami.
Played a few matches with you last night. You Orju skills are pretty sweet and you should teach me some of those combos you have. :p Sorry I couldn't play more with you but it was already 2am and I had work at 10am. I'll be on tonight if you are interested in some matches.

bloodriot
04-12-2007, 09:33 AM
so I finally dl it and ...... nah do not want... :....(

it's okay... I like that other one better atkauzitblafmp or something, needs more chars though

I give this 6/10 monster (has potential but prolly not my style at all meh and it was such a huge ass download too

and atkauzitblafmp 8/10 needs more charas though

xYourMasterx
04-12-2007, 12:16 PM
I just downloaded the game a few days ago, and it's really fun. I hope I get to play more people online.

Xiii
04-12-2007, 01:03 PM
Make sure to drop by the channel in my sig for matchmaking. People usually don't sit on Monster a lot now, but there are people in the channel who will play if you ask.

Xenozip.
04-15-2007, 08:53 PM
hi guys i'm not dead
Ditto. I've just been very very sick. But I'm still around.

Xenozip.
04-19-2007, 09:21 PM
Back in action and I'm still playing this game.

So are Fooligar, AyaImmortal, Spooty, Xiii, Turbovec, ShardZ, magus, celestial_okami, Rithli, Killey, Kenji, rogueyoshi, angrylobster(eddymasta), and Malice.

If I missed anyone, please check in so we know you're still playing! :)

I've made a couple of updates to my blog here: http://xenozip.blogspot.com/

And AyaImmortal has also updated his blog here: http://ayaimmortal.blogspot.com/

Chipp Zanuff v5
04-20-2007, 10:30 AM
hi guys i'm not dead

You need to get back on bitch lol.

Spooty Whiteboy
04-20-2007, 04:07 PM
Back in action and I'm still playing this game.

So are Fooligar, AyaImmortal, Spooty, Xiii, Turbovec, ShardZ, magus, celestial_okami, Rithli, Killey, Kenji, rogueyoshi, angrylobster(eddymasta), and Malice.

Actually, I haven't played for about a week and a half...maybe two. Although, if anyone wants to play then just message me on AiM.

Harem
04-20-2007, 04:16 PM
I am not dead.

aqualung
04-20-2007, 08:54 PM
i play to much hokuto no ken now a days ; ;

game is perty cool still, just kinda got stale for me.

Chipp Zanuff v5
04-21-2007, 03:31 AM
I play alot of Hnk Also, I just tend to make a sometime for monster of course

rogueyoshi
04-29-2007, 04:35 PM
bump. cant let this one die off...

Corner-Trap
04-29-2007, 04:53 PM
This game looks nice, but the graphics and overall presentation could use some work.

Chipp Zanuff v5
04-29-2007, 06:49 PM
Well yeah, Its a work in progress...

Xenozip.
04-29-2007, 09:45 PM
The good news is the game is fun. So even if the graphics and sounds and music could use some work it's nice that the core is good, and they are still working on it.

Juggy
04-30-2007, 09:39 AM
How the fuck do you connect to anyone? I opened the ports and when I confirm on the game, I can't connect.

rogueyoshi
04-30-2007, 05:16 PM
How the fuck do you connect to anyone? I opened the ports and when I confirm on the game, I can't connect.
well, opening your ports is a two way street. you need you port opened if you want people to connect to you, and they need their port opened if you'd like to connect to them.

Whodat
04-30-2007, 06:45 PM
It's been a good while since I played. Is there anything new?

rogueyoshi
04-30-2007, 07:19 PM
It's been a good while since I played. Is there anything new?
last time i remember you on, was when shok released version 1.01.

there is a new irc server/channel, provided by bellreisa, but thats about the only new thing, at least until the next patch.

Xenozip.
04-30-2007, 07:59 PM
It's been a good while since I played. Is there anything new?

Combos, strategies, and a new IRC server.

Pimp Willy
04-30-2007, 10:01 PM
How often are the new patches released? I find this game fun, been too busy to really dedicate time to playing, but it just seems like there is still a lot of work that needs to be done (mostly in the presentation of the game) before it's really polished.

Tizoc
05-11-2007, 08:24 AM
So what's new in 1.01? I'm gonna DL the updated version next week, but there seems to be info on the site that I must uninstall ver. 1.0 first or something

Xenozip.
05-11-2007, 01:49 PM
So what's new in 1.01? I'm gonna DL the updated version next week, but there seems to be info on the site that I must uninstall ver. 1.0 first or something

I have a list up on my blog here: http://xenozip.blogspot.com/2007/03/patch-101-yay.html

Incidentally, I also added a few videos to youtube and a few new blog posts.

Corner-Trap
05-11-2007, 06:11 PM
This game looks nice, but the graphics and overall presentation could use some work.

Who in the hell told me to STFU and die for posting this while neg reppin me? That is some serious bull shit.

vapulus
05-11-2007, 06:19 PM
Who in the hell told me to STFU and die for posting this while neg reppin me? That is some serious bull shit.

Some people need to learn not to take this shit so seriously. CT can say the game needs some graphic work, because it does. In no way was that an attack on anybody's personal character or opinions. The game isn't pretty, and a lot could be done to make it look nicer. I don't like the game...at all...but some of you do, and that's cool. For those of you who play the game, I bet you'd appreciate the game looking more professional.

Xenozip.
05-11-2007, 06:39 PM
^ You're right. Personally I play it because it's a lot of fun, not because of the aesthetics. If aesthetics bothered me I probably wouldn't play anything.

But, better aesthetics would certainly a welcomed improvement. It's not like it'd hurt anything.

Who in the hell told me to STFU and die for posting this while neg reppin me? That is some serious bull shit.
Which is why I disabled reputation. People over use it to the point where it becomes meaningless.

vapulus
05-11-2007, 06:49 PM
^ You're right. Personally I play it because it's a lot of fun, not because of the aesthetics. If aesthetics bothered me I probably wouldn't play anything.

But, better aesthetics would certainly a welcomed improvement. It's not like it'd hurt anything.


Exactly. =)
It doesn't ruin the game if it's not pretty, but the creator could do some stuff (like removing the text from the life bars...ug) to make it less nasty to look at. I played the game for a few days, and it just wasn't my style, but I love seeing ANY 2d game published without huge budgets with a fan following. I hope Melty Blood isn't the only one that does that well.

4649
05-11-2007, 09:27 PM
hey xenozip, i found a weird glitch yesterday just randomly playing the cpu.
i was siely vs cpu f-maya and i did a blockstring into normal throw while she had just laid a floor circle, the floor circle hit me out of the throw and she teleported to midscreen but was still stunned from the grab, and i commenced comboing her :x
i should have just left her there to see if she would have just been stuck forever
then later i saw her somehow okizeme me in the corner by laying a floor circle and landing normal throw on wakeup, i got OTGd by the circle and she teleported and did an overhead
all of this stuff may be old however since i havent played in forever :/

Robot-Hero
05-12-2007, 03:08 AM
I enjoyed, this Doujin game is really nice.
Yeah, is a lil bit "weird" LOL, but very cool to play.

Ok, need more work in the sprites, but, with the time, will be better, I hope.
Ah, yep, the "glass" breaking in the screen is soooo cool !! Great idea.

Chipp Zanuff v5
05-12-2007, 04:00 AM
Exactly. =)
It doesn't ruin the game if it's not pretty, but the creator could do some stuff (like removing the text from the life bars...ug) to make it less nasty to look at. I played the game for a few days, and it just wasn't my style, but I love seeing ANY 2d game published without huge budgets with a fan following. I hope Melty Blood isn't the only one that does that well.

If i remember correctly, It took melty blood several tries to get it correct.

Xiii
05-12-2007, 08:13 AM
Also keep in mind, Monster's interface isn't final. The Life-bars and Super Meter are pretty much placeholders right now. They FUNCTION, but they just aren't pretty to look at. It's been expressed that those will be changed later, but currently, they aren't detrimental to how the game plays and that's ultimately what's being worked on and looked at the most right now.

vapulus
05-12-2007, 08:49 AM
If i remember correctly, It took melty blood several tries to get it correct.

Very true.

Also keep in mind, Monster's interface isn't final. The Life-bars and Super Meter are pretty much placeholders right now. They FUNCTION, but they just aren't pretty to look at. It's been expressed that those will be changed later, but currently, they aren't detrimental to how the game plays and that's ultimately what's being worked on and looked at the most right now.

I'm sure this is true, but I was just backing up Corner-Trap for getting jumped on for saying the game wasn't pretty...which it truly isn't right now. The game is definitely a work in progress.

Warpticon
05-12-2007, 11:54 AM
I hate the Ragnagard-esque sprites more than the bars. It could definitely use a lot of visual touch-up, though.

Just getting into this game. First fighter I've gotten into since, well, probably MB. And I am so confused. But I'll be sticking with it.

Xenozip.
05-12-2007, 06:20 PM
Just getting into this game. First fighter I've gotten into since, well, probably MB. And I am so confused. But I'll be sticking with it. Please post any questions you have.

We can also give you details on any character you're interested in.

RZP
05-12-2007, 07:01 PM
View Poll Results: Do you play Monster?
Yes, I play 87 43.72%
No, I don't play and don't want to. 46 23.12%
No, I don't play, but I want to. 66 33.17%
so this answer my (own) question...
i really want to know how can i play this game online? im good on this game, but all what i need if im really good enough to play against koreans, japanese, chinnesse peoples, im RZP from MKK TEAM VENEZUELA, and i play this game, anybody want to play against me? wanna try? msn: armurtz@gmail.com please a good person with full patient to explain me how to play and you will find on me a good level match :) take care

Warpticon
05-12-2007, 07:13 PM
Please post any questions you have.

We can also give you details on any character you're interested in.

I don't even understand enough to know what questions to ask. :lol:

Xenozip.
05-12-2007, 07:43 PM
I don't even understand enough to know what questions to ask. :lol:

Ah, well for general information, check out the wiki : http://monster.mizuumi.net/index.php/Main_Page

And match videos: http://ikusat.mac.org/monster/uploads/monstervids.html

And also AyaImmortal's blog: http://ayaimmortal.blogspot.com/

My blog: http://xenozip.blogspot.com/

Our blogs actually answer a lot of game-play mechanic questions some players might have (probably should start from the beginning of the blogs, if you decide to read them).

If you want to know more about shifting, bursting, point system, powerbreaking, OTG hits, anti-air flash, diamond burst, and character-specifics then feel free to ask.

[Roz]
05-13-2007, 02:22 AM
Can anyone tell me what's the latest version? I downloaded a demo and it's says it's OnlineTrailer1.99b. I think I downloaded it from their main site, but I'm not that sure (quite a confusing site it was).

Anyway, I've played a little bit and it rocks. Awesome char animation and a very interesting gameplay mechanic. Props to whoever made it.

Xenozip.
05-13-2007, 02:18 PM
1.01 is the latest version. The 1.99 game is just a demo, not the full version.

You need to download 1.00 and upgrade to 1.01.

Mr. Sinister
05-14-2007, 02:59 PM
so, when do you gents get on? I just got this game and would be interested in a friendly game amongst mine fellow srk brethren.

Harem
05-14-2007, 03:06 PM
so, when do you gents get on? I just got this game and would be interested in a friendly game amongst mine fellow srk brethren.

On right now. ^^