Monster: How many people are interested?

[Hayama Akito]

As it currently stands, MAC(Monster Ancient cline) Is very technical and NOTHING that has worked in previous versions of the game currently work with the new system. The new system is so great because now you wont have extremely long combos killing your opponent in 3 seconds. Now the game is equally offensive as it is defensive. When i get the OK to do so ill show off other characters but until then, Thats the best i can do.

Yes there are 6 new characters incase everyone was wondering if that was confirmed or not. It is indeed a fact. Shok, His team, And myself are all working very hard to make sure monster is a VERY solid game and we want to generate as much interest as possible!

Man... i will comment that on my website (http://www.gamercafe.cl/) (not the video, at least), can i? because thats great news.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Yeah go right ahead, Just dont post the video obviously

[rogueyoshi]

wait wait, what?


"Normal moves to dash cancel normal is no longer an option"
"Shifts no longer have the "different move" property for each special move(Except for SOME monster moves"

im not too mad about the first, but the second one is pretty shocking. thats part of what makes this game unique, and i'd hate to see it go.

[Spooty Whiteboy]

One word. Sexy.

Although, I agree with Rogueyoshi. If I am understanding that sentence right, then special moves no longer have different properties when shifted? Then what is the point of the different shifts?

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

All the shifts maintain the same properties as before. They are just executed differently is all. When i get the OK to release more footage i will. I didnt get get the ok to release that footage lol

[MiLky]

All the shifts maintain the same properties as before. They are just executed differently is all. When i get the OK to release more footage i will. I didnt get get the ok to release that footage lol

Thanks for the info Aya, your avatar teases me, is Delga finally back to his old tricks, or at least better than the nerfs?

Other than that ggpo is up, lets play some ST again when you are free.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Delga is BEASTLY as shit with the new changes. New and old tricks alike. When i get tired of working on system stuff for monster, I will hop on to play you in ST again for sure.

[CyberAkuma]

GOOD SHIT. And Delga, my fave, is back to being the beastly Dragon that I loved to play, awesome? Awesome; you really weren't kidding when we chatted a lil while back...

Any way, hype + 100. This is probably one of the FGs I've been looking most forward to this year. I wish you, ShoK and the others you're working with the best.

[Turbovec]

Thanks for the update Aya and risking your ass to post the new footage. I'm really glad to hear that there won't be any über-long combos in MAC and all of the other changes sound really good to me (aside from the moves not changing when shifted, but you said you'd elaborate on that more when the time comes, so I'm not worried :razz: ) Now, if I recall correctly, the Arcade version of MAC is gonna be getting all the new characters and stuff and the PC version of MAC isn't. Does this statement still stand? Because as much as I'd like to, I'm not gonna be able to dush out the cash for a whole machine. :sad: Either way, thanks again Aya, good way to keep the scene alive with hope. :tup:

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

As of right now for the PC version, AS FAR AS I KNOW OF it still stands. The members of Shok's company wanted to do something special for the people who have the PC version but i sadly cannot reveal what that is. If all goes well PC users will enjoy their version of the game just as well as the arcade version.

[Turbovec]

Alright, cool. Thanks for the speedy response. ^-^

[CyberAkuma]

If I may take a stab...

Would the PC version possibly be prone to a sort of "Melty Blood"-esque Story Mode, to make up for the lack of getting the new characters and system updates?

Ah well...far as I'm concerned, as long as the AC version is well done, gets an inevitable PS2 port, and a decent scene to support it, they can do whatever they deem fit for the PC version.

[Hatred Edge]

So I checked the first page...

And I voted I wanted to play it...

I even googled it...

Where can I at least get a demo?

[Clear Sky]

Hey Aya, can you tell us how the powershift system works in AC? Is it like the old one, the lastest one, or something completely different?

[Rhio2k]

If I may take a stab...

Would the PC version possibly be prone to a sort of "Melty Blood"-esque Story Mode, to make up for the lack of getting the new characters and system updates?

Ah well...far as I'm concerned, as long as the AC version is well done, gets an inevitable PS2 port, and a decent scene to support it, they can do whatever they deem fit for the PC version.

Bitch better get a psp port, too...

[ace_uno]

Spootz, when this comes out you know we have to set up our Honey Money Match, since you owe me honey buns still. :bgrin:

[Spooty Whiteboy]

Spootz, when this comes out you know we have to set up our Honey Money Match, since you owe me honey buns still. :bgrin:

Day ONE. Hour ONE. Before either one of us even sets our buttons. It's going down...

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

If I may take a stab...

Would the PC version possibly be prone to a sort of "Melty Blood"-esque Story Mode, to make up for the lack of getting the new characters and system updates?

Ah well...far as I'm concerned, as long as the AC version is well done, gets an inevitable PS2 port, and a decent scene to support it, they can do whatever they deem fit for the PC version.

Nice try but wrong =P

So I checked the first page...

And I voted I wanted to play it...

I even googled it...

Where can I at least get a demo?

Get demo here | http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/8105/
Hey Aya, can you tell us how the powershift system works in AC? Is it like the old one, the lastest one, or something completely different?

The PB system is alot like the old and is also alot different too, Its pretty hard to explain. It would be best if i made a video showing what it does now. When I can do that, I will. But what i can say is, it is ALOT better than it used to be for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi3YGzgZ2yc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cHiJGMIRZ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pro8LmwzaC0

New test footage. I got the ok To upload stuff for katze so i am.

[Spooty Whiteboy]

It seems as if the points don't count down anymore. Instead they stay there for a second, and then disappear.

Also, should we be worried that every combo shown thus far takes away 1/2 life. Is this going to be a 2 combo game?

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

It seems as if the points don't count down anymore. Instead they stay there for a second, and then disappear.

Also, should we be worried that every combo shown thus far takes away 1/2 life. Is this going to be a 2 combo game?

no you shouldnt worry about that, the damage is getting tweaked as we speak to make sure that doesnt happen.

[G@B0]

Give us some Rail plz.
Can't wait.

[MAGUS1234]

Damn, I like 2 combo games.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Give us some Rail plz.
Can't wait.

not gonna happen anytime soon but when i can i will.

Magus: lol, So do i

[Hatred Edge]

I played the demo.. It's a really cool game. I like it.

[4649]

bringing back the orjuice! :rofl:

[Celestial Okami]

Looks like specials consume style gauge when shifted and supers don't restore the bar anymore when you use them during a shift.

Indeed, huge system changes. :pray:

EDIT: Oh gawd. I learned to play Maya in 1.11b and she has had huge changes across the versions. I wonder what she is like now.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

I played the demo.. It's a really cool game. I like it.

Glad to hear it, Be on the look out VERY soon

bringing back the orjuice! :rofl:

Damn right, Glad i still have an unlimited supply lol
Looks like specials consume style gauge when shifted and supers don't restore the bar anymore when you use them during a shift.

Indeed, huge system changes. :pray:

EDIT: Oh gawd. I learned to play Maya in 1.11b and she has had huge changes across the versions. I wonder what she is like now.

Maya once again, Got a SHIT load of changes. Probably the most out of the standard cast, But then again, Everyone got huge changes

[Xiii]

New Changes, new Characters and I bet we all want them: New Scrubs. Too bad it won't be awhile until there's a release we can all enjoy together, but when there is, you can bet Monster will storm back onto Mizuumi (or at least try... >_> bell?). I've been recruiting interest on GGPO especially in the VS room and I still get "WTF FURRIES!" when half the cast in VS are made up of monsters.

Last request for the newbies and anti-furries. More cleavage plox, make them furries wear less!

[Harem]

It's bad enough you have scrubs like Siky and Spootz. ;(

[bellreisa]

i don't have a problem with the monster room going back on mizuumi but y'all niggas need to play the game or something

[MAGUS1234]

Monster on GGPO? Y'all really want to get beat that bad?

That would be sick btw

[fallot]

Monster with GGPO/2df delay compensation D:

That would be awesome.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

i don't have a problem with the monster room going back on mizuumi but y'all niggas need to play the game or something

That wouldnt be a problem once everything has been released. Not IMO anyway

It's bad enough you have scrubs like Siky and Spootz. ;(
And here i thought YOU were the scrub. Man what was i thinking:party:

New Changes, new Characters and I bet we all want them: New Scrubs. Too bad it won't be awhile until there's a release we can all enjoy together, but when there is, you can bet Monster will storm back onto Mizuumi (or at least try... >_> bell?). I've been recruiting interest on GGPO especially in the VS room and I still get "WTF FURRIES!" when half the cast in VS are made up of monsters.

Last request for the newbies and anti-furries. More cleavage plox, make them furries wear less!

Asside from stupid asthetic requests, My hope is to make sure that monster is WAY stronger than before gameplay and community wise. Heres hoping

Monster on GGPO? Y'all really want to get beat that bad?

That would be sick btw

I think he meant he was telling people about it on GGPO. BUt Monster on GGPO would be sick indeed

[fallot]

Can't you get some talks going with damdai and maybe Ponder? Monster could be the fighter to ever have such awesome netplay built into it. I like playing emulated games online and all, but I think these algorithms are going to waste in a sense. I know this isn't a trivial thing to demand, but it would really put the game on the (online) map. Pretty sure I've given otherwise shit games a chance just because they played well online.

[Spooty Whiteboy]

It's bad enough you have scrubs like Siky and Spootz. ;(

Woah...hold up a minute. Did I just get called a scrub by Harem? Fucking HAREM?!?! Damn, I must suck :sad:

[Xiii]

It's okay spooty, there there. Harem got into a horrible accident because of his depression from lack of Monster injections. He'll be right minded again as soon as this shit comes back, one shift at a time. Splooge on him with New Delga and shed away the low tierness of Nerf Delga while hoping for Old Delga to come back with 449 which will never happen. /facepalmsHaremIntoThePavement

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Alright, Release date confirmation time! The release date for monster is August 16th! There is a possibility that we will release earlier than that! But For right now, That is the official release date!

[Turbovec]

the PC Patch update, or the actual Arcade version? >.>

[Spooty Whiteboy]

I'd say he means Arcade Version. PC patch (if there is one) will probably come much later.

I am excited; want to see new characters (who may not be furries...it could happen). Plus, changes to the core system. I think this is going to be a good one.

[CyberAkuma]

Good stuff. I wish you and ShoK-tachi the best.

What about a loke test, though?

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

I'd say he means Arcade Version. PC patch (if there is one) will probably come much later.

I am excited; want to see new characters (who may not be furries...it could happen). Plus, changes to the core system. I think this is going to be a good one.

I knew someone would assume this, thats why i didnt directly answer. This is the PC version of monster:tup:

There will be NO gameplay differences from the PC and arcade versions. And the PC version gets efleet and one character that WILL NOT be in the arcade version of the game.

[Darkstalker]

I knew someone would assume this, thats why i didnt directly answer. This is the PC version of monster:tup:

There will be NO gameplay differences from the PC and arcade versions. And the PC version gets efleet and one character that WILL NOT be in the arcade version of the game.

Hawt.

Will there be more songs in the soundtrack? Or remastered versions or any upgrade of the sort?

[fallot]

There will be NO gameplay differences from the PC and arcade versions. And the PC version gets efleet and one character that WILL NOT be in the arcade version of the game.

Awesome!

[Spooty Whiteboy]

I knew someone would assume this, thats why i didnt directly answer. This is the PC version of monster:tup:

There will be NO gameplay differences from the PC and arcade versions. And the PC version gets efleet and one character that WILL NOT be in the arcade version of the game.

That doesn't sound umm...business savvy. Will this not hurt the arcade version?

P.S. Hooray.

[Xiii]

Does GGPO hurt arcade play?! BOO SPOOTY, BAD BOY! BAD! I'm excited to get the gang back together and for lots of new faces too.

[Spooty Whiteboy]

I meant the combination of home play PLUS the addition of two characters. But, this is Japan we are talking about...

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

That doesn't sound umm...business savvy. Will this not hurt the arcade version?

P.S. Hooray.

I agree its a horrible idea, But i am NOT about to complain lol:tup: It isnt my call.

[Xiii]

Plus we don't get to play the arcade version, probably won't for awhile. Why not be happy we're getting more ;D New char info plox!

[Hayama Akito]

Question: How much is Examu involving in this game? i mean, they are launching the game on EX-BOARD so... they just fund the game? make some work? or Shok just got some money and get the licence to launch the game on Ex-Board?

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

As far as i know, They simply fund the game. They have no involvement with the game creation

[fallot]

The PC version is not going to have the Hi-Res sprites though is it? I'm sorry if that was mentioned before and I missed it. It really does seem weird. Its a good decision though, I think. Being able to play it on the PC doesn't necessarily mean arcade sales are going to be hurt. Both are completely different experiences. And it means people who otherwise would never have seen the updated game can actually explore it rather than playing the old PC patch.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

The PC version is going to have the high res sprites. So get ready! lol

[SlothHands]

Guilty Gear for the furfags. lol

[CyberAkuma]

The PC version is going to have the high res sprites. So get ready! lol

Hm, good to know.

And an extra character too, no less? Very interesting...

[freelander]

hello

could someone give me a basic guide to the gameplay?

[Hatred Edge]

First post?

Today I got this game. Katze and Delga are awesome. Excellent wiki you guys put together.

[freelander]

it was my third :)

I like the crystal guy, who uses that floating stuff
I like the teleport girl

and I don't know anything about the game. keke

[Hatred Edge]

No, I meant READ the first post. The wiki covers every character, combos, normals and specials etc.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

We put alot of work into the wiki. I honestly cant wait until this project is over. So i can actually get some sleep. Between work and this project no sleep lol.

[freelander]

ok sorry..
I found the wiki, but I didn't see the little menus on the left side

I am used to wikipedia and there you can see everything in the middle

[Hatred Edge]

Freelander:Don't worry about it. It's cool. Just play some more monster.:tup:

Othello is pretty nice. I've been training with him along with the Delga and Katze for the past hour.

I like the shifts too. Freedom is currently my favorite.

[Xiii]

I wonder what we should do with the wiki once the new game comes out. I'm thinking maybe to wipe it since nobody should really be playing 1.11b after anyways. Well either way, it's great to see some new people getting on this game, it's making me more excited for the relaunch of this game.

It's always nice to have new people in the game as the wiki doesn't write itself. Though with all the system changes, I'm not sure how long it would take to re-do the wiki as you have a load of new characters as well as most of the characters probably being revamped for the new game system which changes most of their old strategies and combos altogether not to mention new gameplay features aside from system changes.

Core Monster players, get ready to die by the hands of the wiki!

[freelander]

how do you mean "relaunch of this game"?

new patch, or a sequel?

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

I wonder what we should do with the wiki once the new game comes out. I'm thinking maybe to wipe it since nobody should really be playing 1.11b after anyways. Well either way, it's great to see some new people getting on this game, it's making me more excited for the relaunch of this game.

It's always nice to have new people in the game as the wiki doesn't write itself. Though with all the system changes, I'm not sure how long it would take to re-do the wiki as you have a load of new characters as well as most of the characters probably being revamped for the new game system which changes most of their old strategies and combos altogether not to mention new gameplay features aside from system changes.

Core Monster players, get ready to die by the hands of the wiki!

Its gonna need to be redone completely, UNLESS we just update it with everything from the new game. SO we dont have to do a complete wipe

[Space Lion]

I'm definitely interested in purchasing the PC version, if/when that becomes possible.

[Xiii]

If you buy it and play it, you're obligated to hang out and get your ass beat down in returning IRC channel. Don't worry, we love all those who can take a whipping and get back up for revenge.

[aqualung]

ahhh monster, what a under appreciated game ; ;.

just thought id drop by and say hi to the few people that might remember me ^^

[Hatred Edge]

If you buy it and play it, you're obligated to hang out and get your ass beat down in returning IRC channel. Don't worry, we love all those who can take a whipping and get back up for revenge.

I love getting revenge. Guess that means I'll be getting my ass beat repeatedly.:sad:

[Debaser]

bonickwa bonickwa is incredibly HOTTTTT!!!

[Hatred Edge]

Core Monster players, got some tips playing Delga? I'm toying around with dash cancelling pokes for combos but eh....

I have some BnB's with two dash cancel's in them thus far but I'm trying to come up with something that does more damage.

[Spooty Whiteboy]

No one played Delga. So, I don't know of anyone who could help you with that.

[Hatred Edge]

Seriously? Damn that sucks. I'll put a couple hours into his combos and I'll post what I came up with so you guys can check it out for yourselves if you want.

[FullMetalRoss]

No one played Delga. So, I don't know of anyone who could help you with that.

LOL spooty got jokes.

[Hatred Edge]

Found some vids in Xenozip's account. Gonna try that for a while however I have no idea how practical it will be since there's been updates....but better than nothing.

[frustratedsquirrel]

I've been interested in Monster after discovering Shok's page on FA. (Yes I'm technically a furry, please kill me.) At first I thought he was just another good kemono artist but on closer inspection I found he was the creator of Monster.

I'm still a novice, but I'm really more interested in watching this game's progression. If it becomes popular, then maybe it can help raise the furry fandom's standards.

Although people should really stop whining about the cast. The characters in Monster are kemonos, not furries. It's actually OK to respect kemos and kemo artists, since in general, their work usually breathes cool and contains 80% less porn.

(having said that, I was surprised by a few pictures in Shok's gallery. Normally you leave it up to the fans to draw stuff like that, lol.)

[Hatred Edge]

So read the last couples pages. Dash cancelling normals are gone.... Should I quit practicing this current Monster and wait the next version? Y'know since dash cancel combos were such a big thing to me.

[4649]

i actually still kinda like the whole deal of F-Katze being able to do 5B 5C 66B activate then kara 236B into 5C over and over and over for over 7000 damage for no reason, it's like Reload Sol or something
he even goes TEYAH TEYAH TEYAH TEYAH TEYAH
i guess you guys are going to take that out though ;_;

[frustratedsquirrel]

One thing that would be nice: If they could make it so that Deldga is able to charge his fire breath while jumping or retreating instead of only standing and running.

Is it a bit late for these kind of suggestions to be taken into consideration by the team?

Either way, I'm glad to hear that the infinites will be removed. 0-death combos never make a game look good or balanced.

Edit: About Efleet...I hear talk that he's going to be turned into a real character. Is this going to be something like a toned-down boss version (like they did for UNKNOWN in EFZ) or will Efleet be replaced as the final boss and made into a competitive character? In that case, will he count as one of the 6 "new" characters?

[Xiii]

Characters have been face-lifted and I think this time more consideration to the balance of the game is being looked at since there were a lot of bugs and some very abusive shit in the last few patches that we just overlooked as a community because we were still learning. Dash combos won't be there, but comboing as a whole is now a bit more difficult as you kind of have to think about what you want to do now. Of course I can't say for sure you can't just freestyle it once you get down the characters, but as a whole the characters don't seem that much more complicated, just different.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

i actually still kinda like the whole deal of F-Katze being able to do 5B 5C 66B activate then kara 236B into 5C over and over and over for over 7000 damage for no reason, it's like Reload Sol or something
he even goes TEYAH TEYAH TEYAH TEYAH TEYAH
i guess you guys are going to take that out though ;_;

Yes that shit is gone lol. When i said redone, thats what i meant lol. I did like that too though. Was fun to do that much damage for practically nothing lol

One thing that would be nice: If they could make it so that Deldga is able to charge his fire breath while jumping or retreating instead of only standing and running.

Is it a bit late for these kind of suggestions to be taken into consideration by the team?

Either way, I'm glad to hear that the infinites will be removed. 0-death combos never make a game look good or balanced.

Edit: About Efleet...I hear talk that he's going to be turned into a real character. Is this going to be something like a toned-down boss version (like they did for UNKNOWN in EFZ) or will Efleet be replaced as the final boss and made into a competitive character? In that case, will he count as one of the 6 "new" characters?

He is going to be a real character, and no he is not one of the six new characters. And there isnt really anymore suggestions that we need. Everything is practically finished. Its just putting things together now

[frustratedsquirrel]

Very nice. One thing I'm hoping for is that each character will feel more flexible than they did before. It can be a little offputting to new players when at first it feels like there are less available attacks and specials in this game compared to others.

And yeah, the thought of smoother animations has me excited too. I do admit that the animations in Monster so far have been good, but a bit stiff in places compared to some other doujin fighters.

Also: possible new character? http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/8105/images/monster/mnst_jacket.jpg

Kinda obvious I guess, since we've probably all seen it.

Another question for Chip: can you give us any insight into what to expect from the music this time around? I think I don't just speak for myself when I say that the tunes in the previous versions of monster were a little lacking. The only memorable one is the outside of dojo stage, and even then that gets very repetitive after a while.

[CyberAkuma]

There will be new music, and more "fitting" music, at least going from what Chipp has stated already.

So, pretty much like he said, it looks like they've already thought ahead on a number of things. We'll just have to wait and see about that, won't we? ^_^

[koogy]

oh shit they've made an arcade version
i guess i'll have to bust out the orjuice again, even tho i quit like 2 weeks after the game came out lol~ :3

[4649]

aya might have told me a secret about this game but i'm not sure if it's cool to tell you
i'll just say for now that this game and Guilty Gear Accent Core have something in common :x :x

[Spooty Whiteboy]

Every time someone calls Aya, Chip, I die a little on the inside.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Very nice. One thing I'm hoping for is that each character will feel more flexible than they did before. It can be a little offputting to new players when at first it feels like there are less available attacks and specials in this game compared to others.

And yeah, the thought of smoother animations has me excited too. I do admit that the animations in Monster so far have been good, but a bit stiff in places compared to some other doujin fighters.

Also: possible new character? http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/8105/images/monster/mnst_jacket.jpg

Kinda obvious I guess, since we've probably all seen it.

Another question for Chip: can you give us any insight into what to expect from the music this time around? I think I don't just speak for myself when I say that the tunes in the previous versions of monster were a little lacking. The only memorable one is the outside of dojo stage, and even then that gets very repetitive after a while.

Call me Aya, Not chipp lol. Anyway The music is much different for the most part, Youll see what i mean when you play the game.

Every time someone calls Aya, Chip, I die a little on the inside.

lol spooty knows the deal -_-;
aya might have told me a secret about this game but i'm not sure if it's cool to tell you
i'll just say for now that this game and Guilty Gear Accent Core have something in common :x :x

Not exactly the same as accent core, But something lol. Anyway I intend on doing a full write up of all the additions to the system pretty soon

Koogy! Coming back to play monster? Awesome! Looking forward to it

[Hayama Akito]

Call me Aya, Not chipp lol. Anyway The music is much different for the most part, Youll see what i mean when you play the game.

How much different? because to be honest i fucking love Monster music, is one of the best things in the game... im very tired of those Guilty Gear heavy metal songs or generic battle music.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

I liked alot of the older tracks from monster, So imma see if its possible to keep a few of them. BUt I personally havent heard any of the new music yet. Every beta/New version i have has no music. Just sound tests and system changes

[frustratedsquirrel]

The thing about the music in the current versions of Monster is that it doesn't really have much substance. It's very midi-ish and doesn't sound "full" or epic enough for what it's supposed to do.

Some bass/harmonies could really do a lot for half the soundtrack at this point, and some grand synth-orchestral riffs here and there. It was also extremely repetitive with very little variation. And it didn't exactly blend out to "white noise" after a while either, it actually was notably repetitive to the point where I got tired of it. (especially in training mode while testing combos).

Sorry Aya. I'm literally a 6-7 post noob at this point and don't know anyone here. Bear with me for a bit while I lurk.

*sits and waits patiently for the write up.*

[Spooty Whiteboy]

The thing about the music in the current versions of Monster is that it doesn't really have much substance. It's very midi-ish and doesn't sound "full" or epic enough for what it's supposed to do.

Some bass/harmonies could really do a lot for half the soundtrack at this point, and some grand synth-orchestral riffs here and there. It was also extremely repetitive with very little variation. And it didn't exactly blend out to "white noise" after a while either, it actually was notably repetitive to the point where I got tired of it. (especially in training mode while testing combos).

Sorry Aya. I'm literally a 6-7 post noob at this point and don't know anyone here. Bear with me for a bit while I lurk.

*sits and waits patiently for the write up.*

And that is why I run WinAMP/WMP/iTunes in the background while I play games. If you want the SFX still you can just turn off the game music in the options and leave some SFX noise.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0MeIk5J8Uk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjhAB-6ZH2Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so4IBKYTykQ

For those who missed it the first time i uploaded these. Katze system test footage.

*no i will not upload footage of new characters yet*

[frustratedsquirrel]

Awesome stuff! It really looks a lot more stylish now. I love the colours and animation on Katze there. He just seems a lot more lively than before. Everything seems to have a real "snap" to it that looks like it has a great feel. And I love the new effects too. Colourful and cool. The action in general also looks a bit faster, although that could just be the new Katze.

The new hit counter that hangs around the actual characters is also very cool. Does that serve another purpose besides the point counter?

You can tell it's still incomplete, because Katze's costume keeps changing as he attacks. Something that I found interesting: his blue version isn't wearing a loincloth, just shorts. Does this mean we can expect different actual costumes depending on colours? That would be awesome! Perhaps we'll actually get to see Maya's legs. lol.

Hmm...I wonder who Shok's mascot character is? I would say Katze, but he seems to give Othello quite a bit of attention as well. And Maya could even be the heroine of Monster now that I think about it.

Any chance that when the new characters are revealed, we'll get some english translation on each character's backgrounds? Even browsing through Shok's FA page doesn't give me any information on the characters apart from Katze and Othello being very good friends, and that Maya seems to be some kind of understudy to Orju.

[Turbovec]

I'm gonna say right now, the super effects look hawt. Remind me of VOOT and the CIS in the intro. >.>

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

I'm gonna say right now, the super effects look hawt. Remind me of VOOT and the CIS in the intro. >.>

Yeah haha. Shok and his team have put alot of work in to fixing up everything graphically for the game. I personally cant wait to start getting people back into the game. Its going to be good times!:china:

[Hatred Edge]

The game looks sexy Aya. I take it the game when released is on CD format? That sucks since my laptopn can't read CD's anymore....

[Spooty Whiteboy]

Hmm...I wonder who Shok's mascot character is?

The flagship charater of Monster is Giant Shok Head.

[Xiii]

Of course it's Aleks, Shok has sexual dreams about aleks all day and night. <3

I find it funny that a lot of the stuff I want in Monster eventually comes true, like for the longest time I always complained about how much I wished for Katze to have an OTG to end combos with on knockdown instead of just waiting there and fauxing 449 and at last my wishes have been granted.

I swear, I'm going to hate on all of you guys if all this hype ends up only turning out the original 5-7 channel regulars... Since weekends are all I have now, running ranking battles and tourneys for this game would be a treat on weekends.

Actually I'm kind of curious as to what some of you guys are interested in seeing supported by the community itself when this game comes back. What would you want the most first of all? Ranking battles/tournaments, tricked out wiki, combo/match/tournament video projects? Anything else I haven't listed as well, would be nice to know what everyone wants since we used get a lot done in the past, but that was because we just did what we wanted and coerced people to come ;D This time would be nice to know what you guys want.

*Supers Spooty off of the stage*

[freelander]

I hope alexander gets buffed somehow :)

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

I hope alexander gets buffed somehow :)

He does...:party:

Of course it's Aleks, Shok has sexual dreams about aleks all day and night. <3

I find it funny that a lot of the stuff I want in Monster eventually comes true, like for the longest time I always complained about how much I wished for Katze to have an OTG to end combos with on knockdown instead of just waiting there and fauxing 449 and at last my wishes have been granted.

I swear, I'm going to hate on all of you guys if all this hype ends up only turning out the original 5-7 channel regulars... Since weekends are all I have now, running ranking battles and tourneys for this game would be a treat on weekends.

Actually I'm kind of curious as to what some of you guys are interested in seeing supported by the community itself when this game comes back. What would you want the most first of all? Ranking battles/tournaments, tricked out wiki, combo/match/tournament video projects? Anything else I haven't listed as well, would be nice to know what everyone wants since we used get a lot done in the past, but that was because we just did what we wanted and coerced people to come ;D This time would be nice to know what you guys want.

*Supers Spooty off of the stage*

It would indeed be very interesting to get tournys going for this again. When i get my Arcade board for Monster, Im probably going to try going to a few local tournys to get people hyped up about it. Aside from that. I would like to do everything the way we did it before.

[G@B0]

It's official, the countdown has just started.

[frustratedsquirrel]

Of course it's Aleks, Shok has sexual dreams about aleks all day and night. <3

I find it funny that a lot of the stuff I want in Monster eventually comes true, like for the longest time I always complained about how much I wished for Katze to have an OTG to end combos with on knockdown instead of just waiting there and fauxing 449 and at last my wishes have been granted.

I swear, I'm going to hate on all of you guys if all this hype ends up only turning out the original 5-7 channel regulars... Since weekends are all I have now, running ranking battles and tourneys for this game would be a treat on weekends.

Actually I'm kind of curious as to what some of you guys are interested in seeing supported by the community itself when this game comes back. What would you want the most first of all? Ranking battles/tournaments, tricked out wiki, combo/match/tournament video projects? Anything else I haven't listed as well, would be nice to know what everyone wants since we used get a lot done in the past, but that was because we just did what we wanted and coerced people to come ;D This time would be nice to know what you guys want.

*Supers Spooty off of the stage*

yeah but he hasn't drawn any dirty pictures of Aleksander yet on his FA page has he? Othello on the other hand...*cough cough*

I'm loving how the new Katze looks like he'll be a lot more aerial than before. One thing that always irked me about Katze was that his aerials are all so difficult to land, because he doesn't use his legs at all. Now with all these launchers he has, he'll be able to put them to good use. (and also that funky meteore punch he has whatever it's called.)

I think that when the game first comes out, updating the Wiki would be a priority. I know that as a new player, that's usually the first thing I go to for information. A wiki filled with combos, tips, pictures and character info is perfect for luring new players in and getting them up and over the noob fence.

But of course, a few people will need to get good at the new game before the wiki can be updated. :P

I don't think I'll be much of a hands-on contributer. I probably won't be taking part in netplay or anything like that, but I'd be more than happy to theory. And contribute to the wiki, lol.

Speaking of Aleksander, he seems to me like a very difficult character to balance. Why was he low tier in the old game? Was it because he had a low damage output compared to the others? Considering that his sword attacks are unblockable, raising his damage too much could break him, as could making him any faster. So it will be interesting to see what they've done to buff him up this time.

[Hayama Akito]

Alexander is going to be the Fritz of this game, right?

[rogueyoshi]

its actually the other way around. he's been working on monster since before the first akatsuki even existed. also, there was a point in time where aleks was quite strong (superior to katze at least) before he was nerfed for unknown reasons.

[Xiii]

Actually the only time he was really "stronger" than katze was when he had 449. Everyone was strong at that time, but Aleks had long ass air moves that could stuff other people's 449's aside from being unblockable. Fucking retarded stuff. He's been slowly getting nerfed but the reasons aren't unknown, Shok actually just doesn't like Aleks lol.

[frustratedsquirrel]

I still think Othello is Shok's favorite character. He's Shok's way of saying "Fine, Capcom can have Talbain. I'll just make another wolf who's cooler and has the same special attacks...only with exploding blood!"

[Zamuel]

I'm really looking forward to seeing how this progresses. Been playing around with the game here and there and training mode and I've been enjoying it though I know I'm insanely scrubby. I also think I may have accidentally downloaded the wrong version since half the characters seem to be locked (unless, you need to unlock them, which makes me even more of a noob for not trying that yet). Sort of leaning towards using Siely as a main.

[Hayama Akito]

By the way: Is there a release date for this?

[fallot]

By the way: Is there a release date for this?

Alright, Release date confirmation time! The release date for monster is August 16th!

sup.

[Hayama Akito]

Doh! sorry, thx!

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Its alright. Comiket is coming up in japan so ill be making a promotional video for Shok for Monster: AC. Hopefully it will generate enough excitement to get people hella interested in Monster once again!

[frustratedsquirrel]

So how much longer to Comikat? I'll bet that video will be quite drool worthy.

Think we'll catch a glimpse of one or two of the new characters? :3

With 6 new characters, there's got to be at least one that I like.

[CyberAkuma]

So how much longer to Comikat?

Reading is fundamental. Check fallot's post again. :looney:

[Spooty Whiteboy]

Reading is fundamental. Check fallot's post again. :looney:

He asked when Comikat is, not for the release date of Monster: AC. Maybe you should work on your reading skills.

[CyberAkuma]

He asked when Comikat is, not for the release date of Monster: AC. Maybe you should work on your reading skills.

Except that Comiket IS when and where the game is going to be released.

August 16th = MONSTER AC release

August 15-17 = Comiket 74

...So, there ya go.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

So how much longer to Comikat? I'll bet that video will be quite drool worthy.

Think we'll catch a glimpse of one or two of the new characters? :3

With 6 new characters, there's got to be at least one that I like.

I was thinking of showing off efleet and a new character if i got the permission to do so. But I already have an idea of what im going to do so everyone else will have to wait and see

Reading is fundamental. Check fallot's post again. :looney:


He asked when Comikat is, not for the release date of Monster: AC. Maybe you should work on your reading skills.


lol

Except that Comiket IS when and where the game is going to be released.

August 16th = MONSTER AC release

August 15-17 = Comiket 74

...So, there ya go.

Yes, this is correct, Come on guys! Save the insults for when you play the game! More hype that way :china:

[Space Lion]

Yes, this is correct, Come on guys! Save the insults for when you play the game! More hype that way :china:No insults from me. I have a snowball's chance of attending events like those, but I want the game. At this point, I only want to know:

- where I can buy it (with ordering information)
- price (with shipping charges)
- whether or not I'll need a middleman to get it

If it won't be super-expensive (and I can't imagine it would be), then you have a guaranteed purchase right here.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

No insults from me. I have a snowball's chance of attending events like those, but I want the game. At this point, I only want to know:

- where I can buy it (with ordering information)
- price (with shipping charges)
- whether or not I'll need a middleman to get it

If it won't be super-expensive (and I can't imagine it would be), then you have a guaranteed purchase right here.

lol i was refering to the online play. When i know the answers to your questions i will answer

[Spooty Whiteboy]

Except that Comiket IS when and where the game is going to be released.

August 16th = MONSTER AC release

August 15-17 = Comiket 74

...So, there ya go.

You could have stated that in your first post. How was I, or that furry bastard, supposed to know that?

EDIT: P.S. I'll insult whoever I want to insult. Especially Xiii, he's a stupid cunt.

[Xiii]

Eat me spootz, I hope Delga gets Maya'd just for you!

[CyberAkuma]

You could have stated that in your first post. How was I, or that furry bastard, supposed to know that?


Could have done it like I did a day or so ago: Wikipedia is your friend. 5 second search. Yes, I know Wikipedia sometimes can be wrong, but they usually don't botch simple facts like dates.

Then you, like me, would have been all like: "Oh right! Summer Comiket IS August 15-17! That means MONSTER will come out smack dab in the middle of the convention! Go fig! :woot:"

...And it would have been that simple.

Moving right along...

At this point, I only want to know:

- where I can buy it (with ordering information)
- price (with shipping charges)
- whether or not I'll need a middleman to get it

If it won't be super-expensive (and I can't imagine it would be), then you have a guaranteed purchase right here.

I can't tell you the definite price right away, but I can give you two places to think about:

http://www.himeyashop.com/

The largely standard online shop, main difference from the likes of Play-asia is that they actually do sell doujinsoft, as well.

http://www.himeyashop.com/shipping.php

As long as you live within any of those places that are listed there, they can ship to you. EMS Shipping would be 19.00 bar-none.

http://www.squareplus.net/

Another option (and the one I personally use). This is actually an adult-themed shop, but they do deal with video games/doujinsoft, under the custom order option. You provide them the information they need (name of the game, serial no., date expected to be released, etc.), and they'll put a pre-order down directly at Taranoa (THE doujin joint in Japan).

Sometimes the prices they deal out may be similar to Himeya's, but there's often the case where I end up with a better deal through Square Plus than I did with the likes of Himeya. That's why SP has basically remained my go to guys for doujin games I'd like to buy.

Bottom line, I would expect to be able to pay some where between 50-65 bucks for the game in total. If you're a regular import FG practitioner, this shouldn't break your bank.

But in the end, "The choices are yours, and yours alone!" :bgrin:

[ZoDDto]

Aya maybe u know if something like replay auto saving going to be apply?

[Spooty Whiteboy]

Aya maybe u know if something like replay auto saving going to be apply?

Auto-Replay saving is stupid. All it would do is to make us go through endless amount of replays deleting shit.

To Xiii: I plan on switching to a new character (one of the new characters) just for a change. So go ahead and "maya" the hell out of Delga (this opinion is subject to change).

[ZoDDto]

Auto-Replay saving is stupid. All it would do is to make us go through endless amount of replays deleting shit.

ON/OFF option will be great ( for me;P ).

[FullMetalRoss]

What will the new characters be? A zebra! An Ape? who knows.....

[Hatred Edge]

More wolves please. Katze and Othello are awesome.

[Xiii]

I bet you half the new chars are more human than not ;p Also I do believe most of the people will jump on the new chars and as characters like Rail who've had significant changes already will most likely stay the same, I'm probably going to jump on a new hoe too or I might jump back onto Aleks since he's way over due for something new that's actually good. I thought Aleks couldn't get any worst last time though and ShoK blessed him with his new 5A =_=

[ace_uno]

If this has my space pirate penguin with the Mr. Peanut monocle and top hat on I might be forced to drop Siely.

[FullMetalRoss]

More wolves please. Katze and Othello are awesome.

katze is a cat....

Also penguins would be dope. And I hope siely gets a fun boost.

[Hatred Edge]

Why must you crush my dreams?:sad:

[Xiii]

We're all trying to bank on Felicia v2.0 here, we got Talbain 2.0 already.

[Spooty Whiteboy]

We're all trying to bank on Felicia v2.0 here, we got Talbain 2.0 already.

But Katze doesn't have tits. OMG...that's a great idea! If Shok makes Katze trans gender, then this game is sure to do well in Japan. They all look trans gender there anyways.

[frustratedsquirrel]

http://data.furaffinity.net/art/shoksyu/1198174398.half.shoksyu_byakuya_00.jpg

Possible newcomer? Shok calls him "Byakuya, the white tiger from Row." I have no idea what Row is, but unless this is a fan drawing, there's a possibility he may have gotten the rights to stick this guy into MONSTER.

http://www.furnation.com/8105/8105grph/roughs/tetu_00.jpg

Another possiblity. There are a lot of potential Monster characters in his scraps on his webpage.

http://www.furnation.com/8105/8105grph/roughs/maya_00.png

Kemono Maya. Joke character?

http://www.furnation.com/8105/8105grph/roughs/lizard_00.jpg

Rumblin' ... lizard?

http://www.furnation.com/8105/8105grph/roughs/lishas_00.jpg

Ninja Othello?

http://www.furnation.com/8105/8105grph/roughs/fh_00.jpg

Lion/Dragon from Final Howling? (I believe he already has a FH character in Monster)

http://www.furnation.com/8105/8105grph/roughs/doodles_00aLayer02.jpg

Shota cat? Looks like something that would fit in with the rest of the cast. Give Rail some competition.

http://www.furnation.com/8105/8105grph/roughs/d_020321_00.jpg

Oh God I hope not!!

http://www.furnation.com/8105/8105grph/roughs/aliase_00.jpg

Some ninja tiger in heavy gear?

Yeah, I'll be surprised if even one of these turns up as a playable character in Monster.

As everyone else does, I suspect more humans. Which is a pity because part of what makes monster interesting is the focus on animal characters.

And if we're going to bank on Felicia v.0.2, then we should also consider Rikuo. An amphibian character would be very interesting.

In my eyes, Monster needs no more cats, one more canine, one or two new humans and the three others should be unusual animals.

[CyberAkuma]

We're all trying to bank on Felicia v2.0 here, we got Talbain 2.0 already.

Eh, speak for yourself.

As long as MONSTER stands to be the closest thing we may get to having Vampire/Darkstalkers continue on, I want to see more kooky character designs in the line of BB Hood, Q. Bee, Sasquatch, Victor and etc. Overdosing on either kemonos or humans would disappoint me in either case.

[Hatred Edge]

Shinobi Tiger better make the cut. He has badass written all over him.

[CyberAkuma]

Shinobi Tiger better make the cut. He has badass written all over him.

Eh, well, since MONSTER doesn't have the pre-requisite "Ninja" just yet, why not? :rofl:

Lizard-dude would be interesting too, if only so that Delga wouldn't be the only bag of scales at the party.

[frustratedsquirrel]

I consider Delga to be somewhat of a ninja. At least the closest thing a dragon can ever be to a ninja. lol.

[CyberAkuma]

The only thing that really even gives something of a notion to him having any "Ninja-like" attributes is his weapon. It looks like a sort of kusari-gama.

But beyond that...eh. Supposedly he lost his memory, so maybe it could be a thing like DOA's Hayate/Ein, where he doesn't know what his "real" fighting style is supposed to be like, and just uses brute strength to get results.

On another note, I'm looking forward to seeing what ShoK and crew are doing with those CG FMVs. The few bits we've seen thus far look rather nice, and they're supposed to be even more where that came from...

[Spooty Whiteboy]

Here's a question:

Why doesn't Rail have his griffin? I remember seeing a picture of Rail with 4 animals. A armadillo, a lizard, a wolf, and a griffin (or maybe it was an eagle...I can't remember exactly). Well, he has the first three animals now; so where is his 4th?

[CyberAkuma]

Possibly saved for this game, which will henceforth be the "definitive" version of MONSTER?

I'd like to think so...

[frustratedsquirrel]

http://lieferant.hp.infoseek.co.jp/pic/sd_four_elements.jpg

Yeah, that is a Griffin.

I really think Shok draws him a lot better than his creator, lol.

[Xiii]

I would probably be elated to know if the Armadillo were subbed out for the Griffin instead because the Armadillo in shift mode just didn't really work well unless it's gone through a huge revision.

[fallot]

I've never clicked on so many FurAffinity links in my life.

[woof]

http://www.furnation.com/8105/8105grph/roughs/lishas_00.jpg
lmao


http://www.furnation.com/8105/8105grph/roughs/doodles_00aLayer02.jpg
ahahaahaha

[frustratedsquirrel]

I've never clicked on so many FurAffinity links in my life.

There's actually only one FA link in there. The others are from furnation, which I have never been to and hardly ever hear about.

[fallot]

er YES THAT WAS THE POINT YIFF IN HELL

Thanks for the pics though. I hope the shota one doesn't make it to the game.

[frustratedsquirrel]

er YES THAT WAS THE POINT YIFF IN HELL

Thanks for the pics though. I hope the shota one doesn't make it to the game.

*is consumed in burning hellfire*

I agree though, there are few characters in that bunch that certainly would be a little too risque to make it in. (especially that horrible pig-man thing.)

I mean as it is, Katze and Othello are hardly wearing anything. Although having said that, one of the good things about the furry/kemono art style is that animal characters look surprisingly decent in things that no human should ever wear.

I would expect that most of the new characters won't be Shok's original creations, but characters borrowed from his friends. So we may get even more diversity in the cast that we'd previously thought.

Sometimes I feel like Shok included Maya and Seilie in Monster just to distract people from the male-intensive (and in Othello/Katze's case -mildly homoerotic-) cast of furs. They don't do a very good job of it, lol.

Ah well. There is more than enough cool in this game to make up for that. I love the character design actually. Hits all my aesthetic sweet spots.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Its nice to see this page hasnt lost its place on the first page! Lets keep it that way. God damn thats alot of furry pictures lol. Ill have more new stuff by the end of the week.

Not a promise but: In july i am considering putting out a beta test that everyone can try. It wont have all of the characters, its more or less a demo. If i get the ok to do that, then i will. Keep your fingers crossed

[fallot]

I think the thread title should be changed to reflect the impending release of the game. Right now it doesn't look very interesting. The first post too. Beta sounds fucking awesome, I really hope you get permission for that. Especially a netplay beta ;D



Sometimes I feel like Shok included Maya and Seilie in Monster just to distract people from the male-intensive (and in Othello/Katze's case -mildly homoerotic-) cast of furs. They don't do a very good job of it, lol.

Well, now I can't unsee that. Damn. Anyway I didn't really get that vibe from the characters. They seemed wholesome enough to me. I better remember not to mention this to my friends when I introduce them to the game. It was hard enough when I didn't see the cast in this light >.>

[Xiii]

Here's hoping for something that has a 99% likelihood of not happening: Getting all of the new characters in the demo instead and none of the old characters so that when the game is officially released, we don't have stupidness like everybody hogging up and only playing the 6 new characters for the first couple weeks/month.

[frustratedsquirrel]

Its nice to see this page hasnt lost its place on the first page! Lets keep it that way. God damn thats alot of furry pictures lol. Ill have more new stuff by the end of the week.

Not a promise but: In july i am considering putting out a beta test that everyone can try. It wont have all of the characters, its more or less a demo. If i get the ok to do that, then i will. Keep your fingers crossed

Tell Shok his fanbase wants more drawings!

Jokes aside, a demo sounds awesome! I really hope you can get permission for that.

And Fallot: don't let anything I say ruin your enjoyment of the game. I'm only making these observations because I've seen the fanservice on the developer's FA page. It does give a little bit of insight into the characters beyond what most people would need to know.

It's like in Harry Potter. Nobody knew Dumbledore was gay until J.K.Rowling said he was.

Fun fact: Othello likes sweet things.
http://data.furaffinity.net/art/shoksyu/1210901756.shoksyu_othello_00.jpg
more specifically shortcake. (seemingly not flowers?)

[ZoDDto]

I think we will get one new tiger, boar, badass lady with sword, a kiddy ala Rail and about rest... a have no idea ;P

And don't u think a demo will slow down release of full version?

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

I think we will get one new tiger, boar, badass lady with sword, a kiddy ala Rail and about rest... a have no idea ;P

And don't u think a demo will slow down release of full version?

No it wont... Just build more hype

[ZoDDto]

No it wont... Just build more hype

If not, that's cool:)

[frustratedsquirrel]

I doubt we'll get another tiger. So far with the animal characters, there haven't been any repeated species besides the humans...and I doubt Sielie is 100% human.

Besides, we already have 3 felines (Katze, Orju and Ryugen) and only 2 canines (Othello and Rail)

Although tigers are very popular with the kemo community.

Actually, if anything I'm expecting a bear.

[ZoDDto]

You miss Alexander.
That's 3 canines.

[frustratedsquirrel]

Doh...I totally forgot about him!

Maybe it's just because he looks a bit out of place compared to the others but I always seem to forget that he exists! D:

[MiLky]

Doh...I totally forgot about him!

Maybe it's just because he looks a bit out of place compared to the others but I always seem to forget that he exists! D:

So does shok lol.

[ZoDDto]

Yeah, can't blame you;D
We can add Efleet to list:P

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

So does shok lol.

Actually he doesnt, Aleksander was created as a joke initially. Shok WANTED aleksander to a bad character from the jump. hence why he didnt spend much time of fixing him before lol. Things have changed however thanks to some "aya" influence lol

[ZoDDto]

Actually he doesnt, Aleksander was created as a joke initially. Shok WANTED aleksander to a bad character from the jump. hence why he didnt spend much time of fixing him before lol. Things have changed however thanks to some "aya" influence lol

Weee!! Thank you Aya:)
Alex is one of my 4 fav characters.

[frustratedsquirrel]

It confounds me to think that a character with unblockable standard attacks would be made purposefully bad. I always figured it was more a matter of overestimation when it came to balancing, but lol.

Joke characters can be good fighters too. Just look at Wario in SSBB.

Currently, my favorite characters are Othello, Katze and Maya. I don't really connect with any of the others, so I'm eager to see what the new 6 have to offer, as well as completed Efleet.

Just a question for Aya: Is Efleet going to be a "power" character? I can assume that he's not going to be the cheap boss character that he is in the current versions of the game, but will the slow, heavy fighting style remain? I kind of enjoyed it to be honest. Just using those big explosive moves like a fortress of fire. :D

[30_60_90]

I hope that demo gets released so that I can get a look see into this game.
Not saying that I can't, I just don't want to do anything with the old one since I hear this one is getting completely revamped.

[Xiii]

Don't let trying the old game out deter you for now, it's still a great game and checking it out doesn't hurt while you're waiting.

Regarding Aleksandr, talking with ShoK that one time revealed a lot about the character itself. ShoK didn't want to change the character at all and at one point had plans to eventually get rid of the character, but aside from Aya and ShoK's team, who knows what made him get any sort of chance again. Any upgrade would be great for him though, aside from a couple bad match-ups, he was pretty viable until the latest patch when he basically made doing damage with him really really hard as if shit wasn't hard enough before.

[rush down]

How is this game? Worth DLing and pratcice?

[Xiii]

Depends on what you like. Everyone in this thread would say so. The community is kind of dry right now though as we're all waiting for a new release.

[frustratedsquirrel]

Hmm, maybe Shok isn't friends with Aleksandr's creator anymore? Or maybe he just thought he was too out of place?

Anyway, I'm sure he has his fans, so I'll be interested to see what the new Aleksandr has to offer.

[Xiii]

I'll be repping new Aleks anyways, I'm more interested in him than the new characters right now since he's been my main for awhile until the latest patch where I had to switch Rail just because the changes made Aleks retardedly unfun to play. OTGs were hard to hit, lost his ability to really follow-up with anything worth a shit after a 662C, all his combos that did do damage had strict timing and spacing for them to do full damage and his supers no longer could really be followed up by anything. His Lv1 236C could no longer be followed up making it not as good as before where he could hit it and then combo off of it before making it useless as a continuer, but great as a starter since it's invincible and unblockable from start to finish.

*crosses fingers* Aleksandr, I pray to the fighting game goddess to buff your ass up.

[frustratedsquirrel]

I got a feeling that Othello will be slightly nerfed if anything. I can't see his gameplay being changed too much, I mean he's probably the original wolf who bit Talbain...He's got to keep his Dalkstalker-like combo ability and specials.

A faster 66C axe kick might also be nice.

Isn't it funny: Katze is all about the punches, while Othello is the kick master.

[CyberAkuma]

Isn't it funny: Katze is all about the punches, while Othello is the kick master.

For them to basically be the "Ryu" and "Ken" of this particular game, such a thing ain't that shocking. The "two rivals possessing traits and fighting styles that (conveniently) compliment, as well as directly contrast each other" is an old-hat thing for fighting games. In that instance, ShoK just went along with what he knew worked well enough before. :rofl:

As for Othello changes? Well, the ol Gallon/Talbain-head in me wants to see him just get more of the old dawg's stuff. For instance, a non-SC version of Beast Cannon, for one. :wink:

[Xiii]

I hope not, Othello is one of the best characters in the game and he has a lot of cheesy shit, cancellable overhead (6C), multiple blood lockdown setups. He's been change slightly here and there, but you can't really make him suck without changing him at a base level and we all thought Katze couldn't be or really needed to be changed at all, but he was. You can never know what will come out, but it should be good.

[frustratedsquirrel]

I hope not, Othello is one of the best characters in the game and he has a lot of cheesy shit, cancellable overhead (6C), multiple blood lockdown setups. He's been change slightly here and there, but you can't really make him suck without changing him at a base level and we all thought Katze couldn't be or really needed to be changed at all, but he was. You can never know what will come out, but it should be good.

I dunno...it's a new game, remember? The combo system has changed and whatnot. Who knows if Othello's tricks work as well with the new mechanics? They might not.

It's kind of like how in Smash bros Melee, Captain Falcon was a godly combo machine, but in Brawl he becomes one of the most crap characters ever because the combo system was changed.

Still, Othello's one of Shok's favorite characters. I doubt he'll be unplayable in any case.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

I dunno...it's a new game, remember? The combo system has changed and whatnot. Who knows if Othello's tricks work as well with the new mechanics? They might not.

It's kind of like how in Smash bros Melee, Captain Falcon was a godly combo machine, but in Brawl he becomes one of the most crap characters ever because the combo system was changed.

Still, Othello's one of Shok's favorite characters. I doubt he'll be unplayable in any case.

Othello remains a beast, Just not as easy and as top tier as before lol. You shall see:tup:

[CyberAkuma]

Othello remains a beast, Just not as easy and as top tier as before lol. You shall see:tup:

Fine by me. I'm interested in seeing how all the characters changed, including my (dragon)man, Delga. :karate:

[Xiii]

Nobody was really unplayable except for Efleet. You just PB'd him and killed him in 2 combos.

The only problem is we're not seeing anything soon enough. MONSTER! MONSTER! MONSTER! *slams fists down on table repeatedly with fork and knives in both hands*

[Spooty Whiteboy]

Nobody was really unplayable except for Efleet. You just PB'd him and killed him in 2 combos.

The only problem is we're not seeing anything soon enough. MONSTER! MONSTER! MONSTER! *slams fists down on table repeatedly with fork and knives in both hands*

Fork and knives in both hands? So you have at least 3 pieces of silverware in each hand, if not more.

I hat you >:|

P.S. That's right......I said hat.

[frustratedsquirrel]

Not as easy or top tier huh? That can mean a few things, hmm. Well as long as he can still compete, it will be nice to not have to think of him as a cheap character when I play him.

I can't see his damage output being lowered. Othello's style suits itself towards big hard hits with good range. Perhaps his blood moves will hurt him a lot more, or he'll be made just a tad slower all around.

Oh! I almost forgot. No doubt we'll finally be able to use the absurd specials. I could never get any of them to work, so I assumed they were being saved for the final version of the game.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

new system mechanic: Techrolling

Yeah Shok and I had a bit of a debate about this. But Eventually came to an agreement that it was the right thing to do. So characters can now techroll when knocked down. This prevents down attacks. But as we have it right now you cannot shift right after you techroll(to prevent abuse) and tech's are catchable via supers(also prevents this from being abused)

[Xiii]

Absurds worked, just most of them weren't practical and some of them were insane. Katze's Cat's Eye was one of those practical gg absurds, whereas Orju's was quite good, but it was more of a novelty where you could do better shit by just shifting instead. The fact that you lost all ability to regain your meter after using it hurt the point of using them and basically if you don't use it to finish an opponent, you won't see it used at all (unless you are or are fighting Katze because he CAN kill you with his Absurd and quite easily).

P.S. Rail's Absurd was great too XD Unblockable projectile wins until you find out it scales, you can get PB'd out of it and you need to beat more than half the life out of your opponent before it'll actually kill and outside of a combo, it's not guaranteed if the opponent has 1 meter or more.

P.S.S. Techrolling sounds great though I think the toss up between either comes down to what happens at the end of a match more importantly. Both lead into freakish setups as theory wise you should only techroll against someone who's shifted and/or without meter and you shouldn't against someone with. Techrolling is actually more dangerous since you lose more for getting hit during a techroll with most supers and their follow-ups then the little you lose from an otg and any unblockable on wake up. I'd only really see teching happening on wake up unless otg moves got larger hitboxes and recovered slower so players commit (or techrolling is just as fast as most otgs) or they're about to die and you're fighting against someone who just does the same thing over and over again on wake-up.

This is all conjecture though and most of us won't know how it really works until we get to try it, but I think worrying about techroll abuse is kind of over thinking the mechanic. Depending on what you need to do to techroll, the balancer is in how easy it is to execute and it avoids some ground damage, but if anything like 1.11b, you have characters like Othello that would just cross you up if you had to roll back to get back up which might end up being worst for you.

All in all though, I'd still like to thank you Aya for looking out for the Monster community. Let's hope the release is solid enough that we can actually start making tutorial videos that can be used for more than 1 patch!

[frustratedsquirrel]

techrolling, huh? Well it works in other fighters. So long as you don't go overboard with the defensive options in this game like they did in SSBB.

I agree with XII about the usefulness of techrolling in Monster, although it can help in getting out of things like Maya's corner trap.

[CyberAkuma]

Techrolling, eh?

Game sounds even better by the day. Comiket 74 couldn't get here any faster.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Siky: Your welcome. I want monster to be as good as it can be. So im doing everything i can personally do to make that happen..

In testing techrolling has worked out great for alot of stuff in the new monster system. So im not worried about the new mechanic.

Random note: Efleet is awesome

[frustratedsquirrel]

Oh lordy.

I really hope Efleet's not a human character...that would totally be a shame.

although judging by his sillohete, I think he is.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Oh lordy.

I really hope Efleet's not a human character...that would totally be a shame.

although judging by his sillohete, I think he is.

He isnt. Also Monster peeps, Join my monster group on here!

[frustratedsquirrel]

He isnt. Also Monster peeps, Join my monster group on here!

*YESS!* (I bet he's a lion)

Also, did you mean to post a link?

[Hatred Edge]

Aya: I will as soon as I get more info on my boys or beasts, Delga, Katze, and Othello. And well, I don't know where your Monster group is.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

http://forums.shoryuken.com/group.php?groupid=149

lol

[Hatred Edge]

Joined.

[rogueyoshi]

aya, tried to aim you but never caught up i guess.

pm me when you get a chance.

[Xiii]

Note: Efleet is Evil Rail.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

aya, tried to aim you but never caught up i guess.

pm me when you get a chance.

I actually havent been home. Vacation time for meh lol. Ill hit you up in a bit.

[CyberAkuma]

Note: Efleet is Evil Rail.

That's something I've always wondered about; was it really Rail gone deliciously evil, or did he just get possessed, cloned or some other random crap?

As interested as I am about this game in the gameplay and technical aspects, I'm also interested in finally getting some interesting things about the characters and their world. Til now, it's been basically a bunch of kooky kemonos and humans/humanoids throwing down with little known about what's going on.

[Xiii]

Rail and Efleet are of the same race, Efleet is just more badass than Rail canon-wise. Rail shoots 1 spirit, Efleet shoots like 20.

P.S. Rail is better =p

[frustratedsquirrel]

Oh lol, so Efleet really is Rail's rival/evil counterpart? I thought they'd just used Rail's sprite for Efleet because they thought it'd be funny while they were busy making Efleet's model or something.

Now I KNOW I'm going to like Efleet. Badass version of Rail? Yes please.

NOTE: looking at Sylphdraw's pictures of Rail, he actually seems to be canine. However, Shok draws him looking more like a feline. What on earth is he?

[[Real_bout]Yang]

Hey aya, what's about Orju? he changed too much? i use him in monster as my main and i love his style of traps and stuff, i feel him more "alternative" than the other characters ( well..all the characters in monster are not pretty common..)

He changed so much? i hope he continue with his style, i love the style of the magical runes and stuff.

Sorry my english! but me and hayama Akito ( a close friend how post here and he have better english than me..lol ) play this game so much for a long time, monster really deserves more attention!.

[frustratedsquirrel]

Just a quick random question. Not expecting an answer but it would be nice if I could get one.

Will there be any Super Armor in Monster AC?

I dunno, I just think SA is kind of cool in fighting games.

[4649]

please give Siely IAD 664466 so she can do silly looking things as okizeme
i love crazy sexy batgirl <3

[wolfox_okamicha]

Ah, so there will be a patch version AND a CD/Arcade version then?

[fallot]

OKAY ITS JULY LETS GO AYA.

plz :(

[wolfox_okamicha]

Just a random question - I haven't seen Xenozip posting here. What happened?

[rogueyoshi]

he's pretty much done with monster until AC comes out.

[eddymasta]

I'm getting pretty hype for this ish. I can't wait to see some of the new characters

[Xiii]

Fix your shit angry so we can see you on there again! Your router fallout made us all sad, your days of owning us with Othello ended and Fooligar came to steal your thunder and crushed us all with the power of Ryougen's bs.

[Spooty Whiteboy]

At least he didn't crush you with Ryougen's dick. That could have been very embarrassing.

[Xiii]

You mean that's not what he's holding in his hands the entire match? wtf is that shit?!

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Yang;5300408']Hey aya, what's about Orju? he changed too much? i use him in monster as my main and i love his style of traps and stuff, i feel him more "alternative" than the other characters ( well..all the characters in monster are not pretty common..)

He changed so much? i hope he continue with his style, i love the style of the magical runes and stuff.

Sorry my english! but me and hayama Akito ( a close friend how post here and he have better english than me..lol ) play this game so much for a long time, monster really deserves more attention!.


Orju has changed alot. VERY different now.

Ah, so there will be a patch version AND a CD/Arcade version then?
yes

OKAY ITS JULY LETS GO AYA.

plz :(

haha Ive been on vacation and im just getting back today. Cut me some slack lol
he's pretty much done with monster until AC comes out.

Ill just assume hes done period =\

[Xiii]

He's on that IAMP train.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Well, That monster train is gonna run him and everyone else over :D

[wolfox_okamicha]

Could I assume that the new patch would be very big - as in around 1GB big?

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

You could assume that, But it would be a pretty bad assumption lol

[ZoDDto]

In old and current version we have 2 exe, monster and monster_hd.
My question is what resolution will MONSTER:AC use?
It’s going to use 1280x720 for monster_hd or just keep 640x480 with not scaled character models? Arcade board is only using 640x480, but can be better on PC, far better.

[Xiii]

For like most of the other people who already have widescreen and super widescreen monistors, it's still gonna be ugly trying to upscale. Plus in the end, the game was never about how great it looked in stills, the animations were strong enough to support itself and you know you don't have time to sit there and oogle them graphics ;D

If though the graphics are HD, I want 1680 x 1050 support! Super Widescreen baby!

[koogy]

look here's the deal

give orjuice a fucking infinite blasto beam or something, i'll pick this game UP

[Clear Sky]

I just hope for better built-in netplay, or someone makes a caster version. Coast to coast netplay. Lets make it happen! :nunchuck: :wgrin:

[Harem]

look here's the deal

give orjuice a fucking infinite blasto beam or something, i'll pick this game UP

What about Neko viper beam?

[Xiii]

Actually the whole killing blow was the fact that we had good players on both East and West coast and the netcode just wasn't strong enough to support that and that slowly choked the life out of the community and any chance of getting new players to join that could actually connect to us. Now with Aya giving his input and ShoK very aware of the International scene that is interested in Monster, the new netcode will allow us to have 55-60fps games (meaning playable) as anyone who's played has known that dropping to 50 and below makes the game not worth playing because we're so used to such fast mix-up speeds, the slightly slower speeds and lag really mess up the fun of the game.

[ZoDDto]

If though the graphics are HD, I want 1680 x 1050 support! Super Widescreen baby!

I want 1920x1080 :)

[koogy]

What about Neko viper beam?

HYPER VIPER MEOW
HYPER VIPER MEOW
HYPER VIPER MEOW 100% COMBO

let's make it happen cap'n

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Heh, The mere fact that koogy is interested is cool. Ill do my best not to let you down koogy!

[Spooty Whiteboy]

What about the fact that Spootz is interested....does that do anything for you? I can wear a sexy dress if it'll help ;)

[Xiii]

Only if you cosplay is maya and delga's lovechild.

[Celestial Okami]

I was totally playing 1.11b for awhile after the game got unpopular again and the room emptyized itself. I think it was just me an a guy name "mroo" (pretty good player). I picked up a NEW CHARACTER even. Me! The fighting game scrub who only ever played Orju! Man its gonna be nostalgic. "Hey kids, remember when Orju could do half-life combos with 1 stock and kill you with 2? No? Man those were the days..."

Also, we should totally have a 1.0a tournament sometime. Or not.

I think my only real question is powerbreaks. I felt like powerbreaks were viable in the early versions because most characters could do comparable combo damage off one by shifting / clashing at an opportune moment, but later and in 1.11b powerbreaks were difficult due to the revamping of the point system and the changing in floatyness of PB'd characters making PB combos fairly rare and the damage you could get out of one minimal. Is this addressed? Are PBs useful and a tactic you can use again?

[wolfox_okamicha]

Speaking of which... is it really canon that Delga and Rail are <3?

I mean, I've seen shok's non-porn art of them being close, but... don't tell me it's like a Toboe-Tsume thing?

[Xiii]

Rail doesn't like Delga. The dialogue between them are like:

Delga - "Hm... Cute"
Rail - "WHAT?!"

It's funny, but seriously, they aren't in love lol.

[CyberAkuma]

Eh, give 'em time, I say. :rofl:

At the moment, Delga's suffering from "Cammy syndrome" (Oh noez, I've lost my memory, and I got to keep fighting EVERYDAY until I get it back!), and Rail's got his own issues (probably relating to Efleet, at least).

Between all the random crap both of them have to go through, they'll probably could at least have a sort of comrade-like link. After all, "misery likes company".

...But how old is Rail supposed to be any way? Is he really a shota-dog boy of some sort, or is it just a thing that he just appears "youthful" because his species is as such?

And while we're on the subject of character speculation, just how much of a pimp is the "Orjuice" any way? :rofl:

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

I wanna give a slight character update, Siely and Aleksander are incredibly awesome now. Not that Siely wasnt before, But New siely is seriously sick. Aleksander is finally affected by shift change. So you know what that means....

[MiLky]

I wanna give a slight character update, Siely and Aleksander are incredibly awesome now. Not that Siely wasnt before, But New siely is seriously sick. Aleksander is finally affected by shift change. So you know what that means....

Does that mean watch the fuck out for Xiii?

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

For who? Just kidding. he will love aleks new changes i think, If he doesnt then FUCK HIM! lol

[ZoDDto]

YEAH!! Special moves for Alex;D
Still most of his moves are unblockable? ;)

[wolfox_okamicha]

Oh, but does it explains Rail looking at Delga napping without his jacket? :P

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

YEAH!! Special moves for Alex;D
Still most of his moves are unblockable? ;)

So easy to get excited lol:rofl:

[Clear Sky]

Speaking of this game's storyline, I always wanted to know what was Maya's. Like how she got her powers and shit.

[Xiii]

She sipped some Orjuice and avoided Alek's unblockable rape with her new found powers and she's been training so she doesn't get dogged ever since.

I WANT TECHNICAL NEWS FOR ALEKS NAO! I wanna know why he's so awesome now, tell meeeeeeeee. How many people will trade in their orjuice for some aleksauce? Thicker, meaner and less work overall?! lol.

[CyberAkuma]

Can't wait to see what "Alex mk2" will be like. He was basically my "non serious" char last time, but he could be moved up to "legit" if he really is what Aya is saying he is...

[4649]

Not that Siely wasnt before, But New siely is seriously sick..

WHY ARE YOU SO FREAKING AWESOME

goddamn i mean, first you made me hate this game, then you made me love it, then you raped the shit out of me so bad in Blitzkampf that I HAD to learn Sai ( who I then made Gwyrgyn hate ), then you make me want the new game SO BAD THAT I MIGHT GO OUT AND PUNCH WOLVES IN THE FACE GODDAMMIT >_<

srsly wtf

hey if you do release an early demo MAKE SIELY PLAYABLE PLZ I WILL SEND A PROSTITUTE TO YOUR HOUSE TO GIVE YOU A RIMJOB OR SOMETHING

:looney::looney::looney:

[wolfox_okamicha]

Oh, so did they make Katze's anti-air high priority?

[Xiii]

It was always high priority, it persists even if you hit Katze so if you touch it, you're getting hit.

[FullMetalRoss]

WHY ARE YOU SO FREAKING AWESOME

goddamn i mean, first you made me hate this game, then you made me love it, then you raped the shit out of me so bad in Blitzkampf that I HAD to learn Sai ( who I then made Gwyrgyn hate ), then you make me want the new game SO BAD THAT I MIGHT GO OUT AND PUNCH WOLVES IN THE FACE GODDAMMIT >_<

srsly wtf

hey if you do release an early demo MAKE SIELY PLAYABLE PLZ I WILL SEND A PROSTITUTE TO YOUR HOUSE TO GIVE YOU A RIMJOB OR SOMETHING

:looney::looney::looney:

no homo?

Haha Seriously though this game is sounding great.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Considering im one of the people working on the game, It will be great lol

[wolfox_okamicha]

That's odd. I heard many complaints before about Katze's antiair being crappy.

Or maybe it was Orju's...

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Katze DP has always been godly and it hasnt changed much. Orju's DP on the other hand was COMPLETELY useless by all standards.

[Turbovec]

Katze DP has always been godly and it hasnt changed much. Orju's DP on the other hand was COMPLETELY useless by all standards.

How much should I be looking into the use of the word "was" in that sentence? :wgrin:

[wolfox_okamicha]

Oh so it has been buffed then :P

[Xiii]

Orju's dp was completely useless by all standards except in Freedom when shifted ;P

[frustratedsquirrel]

I'm actually really worried about Aleksandr and Seilie now. I mean something in me is telling me that when the new Aleks is revealed, he'll be an unstoppable war machine with devious specials, fast unblockables everywhere and infinites coming out the wazoo.

Seilie on the other hand has the potential to be too fast and too powerful if she's buffed too much. But I'll trust you guys to get the game's balance just right for all characters. Just as long as Othello doesn't become the omega wolf of this pack, then I'll be pleased.

Oh and of course Efleet better be as cool as I'm hoping for. I plan to main him alongside Othello.

And also: man I sure hope that Delga and Rail aren't <3. If that turns out to be canon, then the current cast of Monster only contains a possible 3 heterosexual males (Ryugen, Orju and Aleks) and the only confirmed one out of those is Orju. Currently with a confirmed 3 homosexual/bisexual characters (Othello, Katze, Delga)

LOL. Why am I starting to get Cho Aniki flashbacks?

[wolfox_okamicha]

Is Katze/Othello really canon? I think it's just shok teasing the fans... <_>

[frustratedsquirrel]

Is Katze/Othello really canon? I think it's just shok teasing the fans... <_>

Well it looked pretty official to me. Full colour pictures and everything, and he said it was for a "story he was writing".

Much more substance than just that one sketch he drew of Rail and Delga anyway. While Othello and Katze might not be in love, they are at least close friends with benifits (according to ShoK's art anyway.)

[CyberAkuma]

And also: man I sure hope that Delga and Rail aren't <3. If that turns out to be canon, then the current cast of Monster only contains a possible 3 heterosexual males (Ryugen, Orju and Aleks) and the only confirmed one out of those is Orju. Currently with a confirmed 3 homosexual/bisexual characters (Othello, Katze, Delga)


Well, look at it this way: instead of just having "implied" homosexual undertones (which is what I think is definitely the case in series like KOF and even SF), this game will follow right in Guilty Gear's footsteps and just do more to make it plain and out there, and people will just have to deal with it. :rofl:

Besides, does it really matter all that much? As much as I like learning about characters and their back-stories, it really doesn't do much to affect how otherwise, this is a game that still involves people (furry or otherwise) punching each other in the face in various ways. And that's what most important, ain't it? :wgrin:

Furthermore, we know we're going to get more characters with AC. I'm sure there will be probably at least 1 more "manly"/"pimptatistic" male to be had to fit in with Orju and Ryougen. And who knows? Maybe we might get some interesting females too...

[Xiii]

All this homo furry talk is gonna scare away any potential future players we might get, seriously. That and I wouldn't be too worried about any infinites as ShoK has always had something to take care of that. What you should be worried about are 100% combos which also seem unlikely as each version of the game has nerfed the damage output considerably for all characters and the only "infinites" in the game were all semi-infinites that depended on PB or shift to pull off. Only thing you need to worry about is if Aleks gets an easier OTG game again and has a way of dealing with chibi characters because that's one of the reasons he sucked so hard against a lot of the cast was because he had a weak wake up game against people who could just crouch under his 662C without worry as everything else was slow enough to backdash on reaction.

Some of the most flexible character designs need to be put on a pedestal like Rail and old Maya. Seriously, those characters have such amazing flexibility in their specials. Eve