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Gwyrgyn Blood
05-01-2007, 07:38 AM
Truth about the AI. Kanae AI is pretty ridiculous.

I have the most trouble with AI Marilyn. The AI actually knows how to mixup and combo which is good, but they also know how to just read your button input and beat any escape attempt you try. Doublely hard for Kanae who doesn't seem to have any safe 'get out' options. Of course that's on Valhalla difficulty... Hard AI is pretty easy by comparison.

The EX Counter is good and all, but I'm more wondering what the point is behind her non-EX counters. Those seem worthless unless I'm missing something.

I'm kind of wondering about 2B as AA too. I've noticed that you can't get any combo off it, BUT you can always seem to land a free 2C afterwards despite it not comboing. I'm wondering if maybe you just have to parry the 2C or what, but the AI never does so I'll have to grab someone to help me test it out.

polarity
05-01-2007, 07:47 AM
I have the most trouble with AI Marilyn. The AI actually knows how to mixup and combo which is good, but they also know how to just read your button input and beat any escape attempt you try. Doublely hard for Kanae who doesn't seem to have any safe 'get out' options. Of course that's on Valhalla difficulty... Hard AI is pretty easy by comparison.

The EX Counter is good and all, but I'm more wondering what the point is behind her non-EX counters. Those seem worthless unless I'm missing something.

I'm kind of wondering about 2B as AA too. I've noticed that you can't get any combo off it, BUT you can always seem to land a free 2C afterwards despite it not comboing. I'm wondering if maybe you just have to parry the 2C or what, but the AI never does so I'll have to grab someone to help me test it out.

Can't you use her flip (22x) or high counter as AA?

polarity
05-01-2007, 09:23 AM
fffff

FullMetalRoss
05-01-2007, 09:27 AM
Try it on blitztank.

Emil
05-01-2007, 09:38 AM
Anonym looks like a lot of fun to use...

Does the netplay work well for this game?

Gwyrgyn Blood
05-01-2007, 09:44 AM
Can't you use her flip (22x) or high counter as AA?

Pretty sure Flips aren't invincible at all and I've definitely gotten hit out of them all the time. 5B is nice because it's easy to input on reaction, it's fast as hell, and has a good hitbox.

Sonic_Reaper
05-01-2007, 10:13 AM
This thing is FLYING around as a torrent for whoever either isn't using MIRC or is too retarded to look themselves. Downloading it now. Hopefully it'll be done after I get back from work :)

Emil
05-01-2007, 10:13 AM
What is Anonym's ultimate super (not sure what terminology they use to refer to this). On the character select screen, it says KO and some japanese characters, instead of button presses/motions. I did remember seeing Anonym revive after dying when I fought the cpu though, but I'm not sure how it activates (randomly, always?)

FullMetalRoss
05-01-2007, 10:14 AM
Anonym looks like a lot of fun to use...

Does the netplay work well for this game?

Netplay is fuzzy, some people are cool others it's bad. I haven't gotten a good connection yet, not even with someone in my own town.

Anonym is tight. She's a long range keep away character with some nutty combos. Yay.

Emil
05-01-2007, 10:19 AM
Netplay is fuzzy, some people are cool others it's bad. I haven't gotten a good connection yet, not even with someone in my own town.

Anonym is tight. She's a long range keep away character with some nutty combos. Yay.

I'm having trouble finding big combos with her. DIdn't experiment that much with her but the best thing I discovered was probably:

db+A, db+B, b+C, db+A, B(gunshot), C(gunshot), qcf+C, supercancel qcf+BC

It's possible to just barely hit an A gunshot after the b+C instead of doing a db+A, but then if I continue with B, C, the qcf+C doesn't hit.

FullMetalRoss
05-01-2007, 10:22 AM
Yeah, thats about the best you are gonna get. She has some slightly more damaging corner combos, that are way harder

combo into b+c, db+b st.c, dd+a, db+b, f+c

or same combo but after dd+a, db+b, st.c xx qcf+b+c.

or the easy version, combo into b+c, db+a, st.a, st.c xx qcf+b xx qcf+b+c or qcb+b+c

woah actually I just read your combo again you are combing off of db+c thats cool.

midscreen I actually do, db+a,db+b,b+c,db+a, st.b xx qcf+a xx qcf+b+c or st.,st.b,st.c xx qcb+a-> b or c.

Emil
05-01-2007, 10:49 AM
woah actually I just read your combo again you are combing off of db+c thats cool.


That was a typo.

It seems that the depth of these characters isn't that great...I don't see how this game is going to get really popular, to the point where it's going to appear in SBO or something.

Gwyrgyn Blood
05-01-2007, 10:56 AM
What is Anonym's ultimate super (not sure what terminology they use to refer to this). On the character select screen, it says KO and some japanese characters, instead of button presses/motions. I did remember seeing Anonym revive after dying when I fought the cpu though, but I'm not sure how it activates (randomly, always?)

If she dies with full super stock she just gets 1/3 of her life back, and a full screen attack hits you (or at least forces you to block) for a bit. It's kinda silly as shit but then again, it needs 3 stocks to do.

That was a typo.

It seems that the depth of these characters isn't that great...I don't see how this game is going to get really popular, to the point where it's going to appear in SBO or something.

People still play Super Turbo and 3S and this game isn't that far off from those really. I do think the game could use some more glitches though, it's far too unbuggy. ;p

polarity
05-01-2007, 10:58 AM
thanks for your 10 minutes of playtime theory fighter input emil, keep up the good work

4649
05-01-2007, 11:01 AM
so does anybody know exactly what Wei's 22+A/B/C respectively gives him, attribute wise? i really like his playstyle, i'm just not sure what benefits the charges get him.

Master Chibi
05-01-2007, 11:02 AM
I love twin tailed witch and the nun.

Though fuck doing combos with either one, my ass is not going near you ever.

Draeger
05-01-2007, 11:16 AM
What is everybody using as Marilyn's BnB? I have been using these two because it has worked in every situation I have been in and easy to pull off:

2A, 2B, 5B, 236A4A, 2A, 236BBA (2498 damage)

For the corner, I use this combo and it is also an easy one for me:

2A, 2B, 5B, 236A4A, 2A, 2B, 5B (one hit), 236AAA (2819 damage)

You can mix it up a little bit in terms of strength in the special moves, but I just kept it simple for now. I would switch out the 236A4A and 236AAA parts with B for ~200 more damage, but the timing gets stricter and my execution sucks.

MAGUS1234
05-01-2007, 11:19 AM
shit soldat is guile, its like I dont even have to learn a new game :)

Clear Sky
05-01-2007, 11:22 AM
The EX Counter is good and all, but I'm more wondering what the point is behind her non-EX counters. Those seem worthless unless I'm missing something.

Yes, her normal counters don't seem to be as good as a parry since they're bit more easy to punish if you whiff them, and 22C gives actually gives you positioning for oki.

I'm kind of wondering about 2B as AA too. I've noticed that you can't get any combo off it, BUT you can always seem to land a free 2C afterwards despite it not comboing. I'm wondering if maybe you just have to parry the 2C or what, but the AI never does so I'll have to grab someone to help me test it out.

Sounds strange. If it really is the case, it might be that you lose trip guard in that scenario or something. Too bad there's no way for me to test this.

Gwyrgyn Blood
05-01-2007, 11:42 AM
Sounds strange. If it really is the case, it might be that you lose trip guard in that scenario or something. Too bad there's no way for me to test this.

It could just be an AI bug which is why I want to test to make sure. The AI does have a few retarded glitches here and there so I wouldn't doubt it.

What is everybody using as Marilyn's BnB? I have been using these two because it has worked in every situation I have been in and easy to pull off:

I've seen a lot of different combos, I think it somewhat depends on where you are from the corner. Check this vid, it has a bunch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dni13DNsP-U

FullMetalRoss
05-01-2007, 11:46 AM
Yes, her normal counters don't seem to be as good as a parry since they're bit more easy to punish if you whiff them, and 22C gives actually gives you positioning for oki.



Sounds strange. If it really is the case, it might be that you lose trip guard in that scenario or something. Too bad there's no way for me to test this.

unless the combo meter pops up you can parry out of the second hit when you are in the air. Basically what I'm guessing is, if you chain hits toeghther and they connect within a certain window it makes a knockdown state, if you link them toeghther it doesn't. See linking two jumping shorts with soldat, or chaining from jumping short to jumping foward.

polarity
05-01-2007, 12:02 PM
update on mycale comboz:

got it up to 9061 damage!

22b hold, 632c, spear hits, hammer hits, j.c, close 5c, jc.b, j.2c, j.b, j.2c, 5a, 5a, 5a, 5b (4 hits), 214a, abc

if anyone can find a more damaging corner combo with her you get mad props from me, thx to marn for the collab + exe

combo vid coming out soon :) (not mine, though i will be contributing)

Atb_555
05-01-2007, 12:31 PM
Any vids for Sai (guy with the shades). He's difficult to use especially without an AA and some of his combos are a little difficult too.

Chipp Zanuff v5
05-01-2007, 01:20 PM
Would anyone be up for a blitzkampf website??? I am thinking about doing one

Zakuta
05-01-2007, 01:24 PM
Well this is crap, config file won't load and the main file will make my computer do a shit.

woof
05-01-2007, 01:25 PM
just a wiki page would be fine

polarity
05-01-2007, 01:27 PM
Well this is crap, config file won't load and the main file will make my computer do a shit.

you have to set the config to windows 2000 compatibility. dunno what the problem with the main program is though.

Atb_555
05-01-2007, 01:36 PM
When I installed it I renamed the folder to something in english, ie: "Akatsuki"

Zakuta
05-01-2007, 01:44 PM
Well yeah, that's what I did - I also changed the compatibility mode and I still get BSOD. Config file is starting to work though.

Tone!
05-01-2007, 01:48 PM
Been playing the shit out of the demo, didn't even know the full version had been released.. This game is fucking awesome as hell :)

arstal
05-01-2007, 03:08 PM
Yeah- this is definitely one of the few dojin games that I can play for more then 10 mins at a time...

shadowcharlie
05-01-2007, 03:16 PM
so does anybody know exactly what Wei's 22+A/B/C respectively gives him, attribute wise? i really like his playstyle, i'm just not sure what benefits the charges get him.

speed def power respectively

woof
05-01-2007, 03:16 PM
for anyone interested:
managed to rip the music from the game. the sound quality is low, though! 87////

http://corel.leafo.net/images/etc/Blitzkampf.rar






man the final boss music is so awesome

Zakuta
05-01-2007, 05:24 PM
So no-one has any clue as to why I could be getting the BSOD every time I execute the game? ;____;

Hydra632
05-01-2007, 06:09 PM
Got a ton of new Wei stuff to post for anyone interested in him playing. First off, his normals.

5a - decent speed, shit range but you'll be starting all your combos off of this obviously, chains into itself, as well into and out of 2a. Links into 5b/2b as well. Does about half a block of damage damage by itself.

5b - Average speed, great range! At max distance it covers around 2 1/2 char spaces away. Cancels into any special, great for 4-6a/b/c pressure(ie 2a 2a 4-6a 5b 4-6a...). Great poke.

5c - Slow speed but covers a lot of distance as well as moving Wei forward, knocks down on hit and seems to have good priority. On hit you get a free power up or 4-6a/b if they don't tech. Seems to have good priority in overriding other normals. I use this a lot.

2a - Just like 2a, decent speed, shit range, but its your main combo starter/filler. Chains into itself like 5a, does about 1/4 bar by itself. Great for starting combos off a parry.

2b- An uppercut angled at about 45degrees upward, great as an anti-air, cancels into any specials. Works great in juggles like ...4-3a 2a 2b 2-8c..... , definitely his better Anti-air normal. Works especially well against characters with low jumps.

2c - Slow, long distance trip. Has nice priority in trading with 2a's and 2b's, like 5c you can also get a safe/free power up or a headbutt/headbutt super if they don't otg.

7/8/9a - straight jab, not to hot on this myself but it has some uses.

7/8/9b - This is the definition of a solid cross up the move comes out quickly and stays out for a decent amount of time allowing you to get very deep cross ups. The front leg in this move causes nice hit/block stun, and can be useful if blocked as in an Air to Air situation since it holds them in the air in blockstun briefly, allowing you to land before they do which is a good throw setup. The back leg is what its all about, nice long hitbox all the way down to the tip of the boot. 5a/2a connects very easily off this when used as a cross up and is one of his best combo starter.

7/8/9c - Downward angled elbow, has a bit of start up but the hitframes are active for awhile. Knocks straight down on hit.

Jumping 6c - Similar to his ground 5c, but it pushes him backwards. Quick start up. Knocks opponent backwards on hit in Air to Air on if they're on the ground.

Charge 4-6a/b/c: Shoulder/Headbutt charge.The A version travels about 3 char spaces, the B version travels around 5, while the C version seems to travel damn near 1/2 to 2/3's of the screen. Slight damage increase from a to b to c. The hit frames don't start until his leans his shoulder in. He has a pseudo block stringer with ....4-6a/b 5b 4-6a/b. Generally safe on block, if not even. Cancels into the super version with b+c. Also cancels into both of his other supers as well as the level 3.

Charge 4-3a/b/c 6a/b/c - This move hits low and launches on hit. A version covers around 3 char spaces, B covers around 5, C covers the same amount of distance as his 4-6c. The hit frames don't start until he's covered the max distance of the button used. The 4-6a/b/c part recovers fast enough that you can juggle with it, with a 2a/2b. The 2nd hit, 6a/b/c can be done almost immediately after the 1st hit recovers but can also be delayed. The 1st hit can cancel into any supers, while the 2nd can't. Although you can cancel into the super version with B+c I wouldn't recommend it since all the hits don't connect, since its generally better to go for the 2a/2b juggle starts off of it.

Charge 2-8a/b/c -> 6a/b/c - Two hit rising uppercut followed by a downward elbow. The A version starts right where you stand, the B version moves forward about 1 and a 1/2 character spaces, the C version moves forward about
3 character spaces. This part of the move launches on hit and can cancel into the super version by pressing B+C, and can also be cancelled into any other super. The 2nd hit can be started right after the first recovers, and can be delayed and activated until the 1st part recovers. You can also use the a/b/c version of the 2nd hit regardless of what strength the first hit is. This move comes out fast enough to punish some whiffs, and is decent as an Anti Air as long as you aren't being crossed up.

22a/b/c - One of his best assets. The A version increases his walking speed, dashing distance, and jump distance by almost 100%. The B version decreases the amount of damage he takes and also gives him 1 hit super(IE you can headbutt through Soldat's special fireball), the C version increases his damage output by around 25%. Each of this causes a timer to appear under Wei's life bar and provides 6 seconds of power up. The start up time is around 2 seconds. He is completely vulnerable during the start up.

charge 4-6b+c - 1 hit, very fast start up, causes wall bounce on ground, air, and juggle hit. Chains off his 4-6a/b/c by pressing b+c during their hit frames. Guarantees a 4-6a/b (or 4/3b 6b if you are close enough to the wall)after the wall bounce which can then be followed up by another b+c into whatever. Pretty decent super with nice follow ups. Punishable on block. Takes off around 1/3 of the opponents guard gauge.

charge 4-3b+c - 10 hit super that starts out low, very quick start up. It can be cancelled into off his 4-3 but it won't connect. Very unsafe if blocked but its also his best move for draining the opponents guard gauge since it takes off nearly 3/4's of it.

22b+c - GREAT SUPER. Gives him speed/defense/attack powers up for a 7 second duration. So he gets a 100% speed/jump distance boost, damage reduction/1 hit super armor, 25% attack boost/increased guard damge AND it can be used to extend combos. It is completely invincible on start up and is damn near instant, allowing you to activate through normal fireballs or as you wake up. You can combo 4a 4b 4-6b xx 22b+c 4a into whatever off of whatever. It is also very useful off a blocked 4-6a/b/c and lets you continue his rush down/guard break. His options after a blocked 4-6a/b/c are nasty, stuff like instant throw to cross up, or just as a way to extend his guard break chains to get those critical guard break openings.

A+B+C - His level 3 is nearly identical to his 22b+c but it provides a slight increase to the defense/attack power ups and also lasts 10 seconds. He is completely invincible on start up. I'm not exactly sure how much of an increase it provides to his power ups, if anyone knows how much of an increase it provides over 22b+c and if it provides any additional boosts I'd love to know.

Generally, you can omit the cross up from most of these combos and apply any sort of jump in or just connect them from ground chains. Also most of these combos assume you will be preparing the charge for his moves during the cross up and normal hits. I've notarized the hits with the direction you'll be holding. I'm listing the max damage versions but I'll usually add 2 4a/2a's for additional time to charge/hit confirm.

Combos

Cross up B 4a 4b 4/3a 6a. Easy meterless combo that works everywhere.

Cross up B 4a 4b 4-6b xx b+c (followed by a 4-6b if you aren't in the corner/too close to the corner). Basic BnB combo that works everywhere.

Cross up B 2a 2b 2-8c xx b+c , another basic combo that works everywhere on screen.

Cross up B 4a 4b 4-6b xx 22b+c 4a 4b 4/3b 2a 2-8c 6c. One of his nice power up combos that works everywhere on screen, if the opponent techs the power up provides perfect range for another cross up B.

Cross up B 4a 4b 4/3a 1a/2b 4-6b+c 4/6b(if you have the distance the meter you can cancel this into b+c then another 4/6b)

There is some other stuff I'll list tomorrow but thats it for now. Hope it helps anybody looking to play Wei aka the best character ever.

Darkstalker
05-01-2007, 08:12 PM
Okay, I have got to ask, how do I play this game in Window mode (if at all possible)? I just like playing Doujin fighters in window mode, I dunno why...

4649
05-01-2007, 08:17 PM
godliness.

THANK YOU YOU SEXY MOTHERFUCKER

if i could rep you i would

woof
05-01-2007, 08:53 PM
ps i will volunteer to do kanae combos
someone will have to take the replays to record though

dandy????

Dandy J
05-01-2007, 09:00 PM
dude you know i am having people send me the replays

Okay, I have got to ask, how do I play this game in Window mode (if at all possible)? I just like playing Doujin fighters in window mode, I dunno why...
alt+enter

its because you are looking into a window to another world...

woof
05-01-2007, 09:01 PM
well i didnt UGH

Darkstalker
05-01-2007, 11:20 PM
alt+enter

its because you are looking into a window to another world...

A sexy answer with a not so sexy pun.

Thank you!

Man, I'm not sure if I like Fritz. Seems like the Aleksander of this game...

Atb_555
05-02-2007, 04:29 AM
So no-one has any clue as to why I could be getting the BSOD every time I execute the game? ;____;

- Download the lastest Direct X for your graphics card.
- If your using XP make sure the capability is set to windows 2000
- Reinstall and try just renamimg the folder only into something in english not the actual exe file.

Those are the only things you can do. If they don't work then I have no idea. Btw did you burn the game on to a disc or are you using a virtual image (if so then try burn the iso instead). Or double check the game downloaded 100% just in case.


Btw where's the Sai love?

woof
05-02-2007, 06:39 AM
Man, I'm not sure if I like Fritz. Seems like the Aleksander of this game...
"im fritz bitch" - fritz



no dude fritz is actually good. play a decent fritz and youll see whats up :looney:

Helter Skelter
05-02-2007, 06:54 AM
Sai was my main character in the previous games. I'ma whore Anonym, then I'll go back to Electro-Soldat.

Darkstalker
05-02-2007, 07:59 AM
"im fritz bitch" - fritz



no dude fritz is actually good. play a decent fritz and youll see whats up :looney:

I will admit the guy has my fave level 3 super out of everyone so far...

Currently leaning towards learning E-Soldat though. He's fun, if simple.

Chipp Zanuff v5
05-02-2007, 08:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMbxAK6HSAI

Should give some ideas

Sonic_Reaper
05-02-2007, 10:33 AM
lawl at second last boss.

4649
05-02-2007, 10:35 AM
i'm really liking how Murakumo plays, seems pretty balanced for a last boss i.e. Kain R Heinlein. pretty sure i'll be dropping Anonym for him as a main.
and don't cry about how supposedly good he is, Fritz / Marilyn rapes the shit out of him :P

polarity
05-02-2007, 10:37 AM
im pretty sure he is in fact stupidly overpowered

FullMetalRoss
05-02-2007, 11:19 AM
im pretty sure he is in fact stupidly overpowered

Why do you think he's overpowered? He doesn't really do tons of damage, he's not that hard to fight.... I can't see something that makes him broke.

Gwyrgyn Blood
05-02-2007, 12:51 PM
What do you do to unlock him anyway?

kenmastersX
05-02-2007, 02:09 PM
What do you do to unlock him anyway?

I got him on my second play-through in arcade mode. I beat the game with Anonym, and then Kanae, and he unlocked afterwards.

woof
05-02-2007, 02:48 PM
murakumo is not broken

blitz tank is not broken either





hooray, more combo vid material :looney:

Ryo Yamazaki
05-02-2007, 02:56 PM
Zakuta - I used applocale on the game exe and it ran fine. Try it on the config file as well.

Atb_555
05-02-2007, 03:24 PM
I'm pretty sure it must be that his DirectX is old. Which version have you got Zak?

Riot.EXE
05-02-2007, 03:29 PM
great...another game to try out...

D'Nyc3
05-02-2007, 03:52 PM
My god doing combos in Blitztank just made a new opening to combo video materials:sweat:

polarity
05-02-2007, 03:53 PM
yea murakumo isnt really broken my bad

Sonic_Reaper
05-02-2007, 05:05 PM
So for playing online ... you find willing players in the mirc chatroom and then ... ?

woof
05-02-2007, 06:11 PM
murakumos 2B is really awful

like really really awful


it can be punished even if it connects unless you cancel it into something first

shadowcharlie
05-02-2007, 06:45 PM
i dont understand why u would even do it without ending it with the SLIIICE

Spooty Whiteboy
05-02-2007, 06:47 PM
murakumo IS broken.

He's a Ninja Nazi.

Sounds broken to me.

Sonic_Reaper
05-02-2007, 06:47 PM
What does everyone think of Sai? He seems a bit too simple to me, like a one-trick pony. Also, his range really leaves something to be desired. You really have to be in your opponent's face. Walking up and hitting A repeatedly seems to be pretty effectifve in getting in. I haven't experimented much with his "gaze" attacks that lower your opponent's stats. The range seems deceptively short.

shadowcharlie
05-02-2007, 07:06 PM
. I haven't experimented much with his "gaze" attacks that lower your opponent's stats. The range seems deceptively short.
it sucks unless u combo into it the (ex hypnosis or the lvl3) rage is that of a throw i belive a bit more but theres no durration at all
ask hydra hes a sai expret:looney:

MAGUS1234
05-02-2007, 07:25 PM
murakuma is pretty cheap. If he's legal IM playin him.

Sonic_Reaper
05-02-2007, 07:29 PM
Well so far I'm liking the game. It's pretty simple, easy to get into, and most importantly, fun!

As for Sai's gaze attacks--that sucks. It's really difficult to combo 22? special attacks :( ABC from any normal attack is much easier, but I'm not really sure if it's worth 3 stocks.

woof
05-02-2007, 07:32 PM
murakuma is pretty cheap. If he's legal IM playin him.
lmao whatever you say dude



i dont think hes that amazing


ABC from any normal attack is much easier, but I'm not really sure if it's worth 3 stocks.
i think it is

not only does it give full status effects, it also takes away health and regenerates your own
of course, the only downside is the range

MAGUS1234
05-02-2007, 07:37 PM
lmao whatever you say dude



i dont think hes that amazing


land mines
air teleport
super antiair
2b is the best poke ever
you can jab walk all day for ticking
he runs! screw footsies
johnny cage fireballs that lag


dude c'mon...

now whats bad about him?lack of damage I suppose... im not saying he's broken, but if he's allowed im so playing him.

woof
05-02-2007, 07:41 PM
land mines
are good

air teleport
can be punished

super antiair
like everyone elses

2b is the best poke ever
lol

you can jab walk all day for ticking
his jabs are ok

he runs! screw footsies
sure

johnny cage fireballs that lag
yeaop


but you also forgot the part where the majority of his normals suck
dont get me wrong though i play him too. i really dont think hes that great :looney:

MAGUS1234
05-02-2007, 07:44 PM
is there something you don get about 2b?

Sonic_Reaper
05-02-2007, 07:52 PM
Well, luckily the game has a parry option so that predictable 2Bs can be easily punished.

Dark Shinryuken
05-02-2007, 08:19 PM
Anyone here play Sai?

I just started playing this game like... 10mins ago and he is the only character that interest me so far (That nun w/ the guns is hard to use IMO... she reminds me of Dhalsim in that you have to hold "Back" to perform non-range normals, don't got any combo's w/ her though just basic ABC crap).

Anyway's I was wondering if anyone else plays him? So far I only got one descent combo and it's w/ the enemy on the wall:

j.C > s.B, back+C, qcf+A (time) s.A, s.B, qcf+b xx qcf super

Does around 4300 Damage (the number below it says 6000 something). Anyway's, I'm going to go try BBB demo...

PS: Kanae sucks balls. I can't seem to link or combo in many things with her. Then again I only gave her like a 5-10min run on Practice mode. She can't even basic cancel her s.B into another normal...

Also anyone tried the online mode yet? If so does it work? I wont even try it on this comp cause I am on dial up. Though I will install this game and try it at my friends house.

woof
05-02-2007, 08:29 PM
kanae is pretty good


all of her C normals are awesome, especially 6C

5B is damn good too for poking

ToyRobotTerror
05-02-2007, 11:53 PM
Is Saiīs regular status stuff usable? Itīs pretty to jump over them.

Sonic_Reaper
05-03-2007, 12:19 AM
I would say no. They're very difficult to combo into due to the command (22) and the range is that of a throw. His ABC super is great though, and easy to combo into off of a normal A attack.

The Damned
05-03-2007, 12:39 AM
I've been lurking in this thread for quite a while, and I have to say that I'm still amazed that this is fan made. (This is especially true since I finally, finally see a "nun with a gun" character. Figures that Chibi would hog her though since there aren't any maid characters....)

I wonder if this could get into EVO given there are have been console tournaments, no?

I guess there would have to be a way to get legitimate copies, though. And it's not like I'll ever geto play it, though, EVO or otherwise (just like with Arcana [fucking] Heart).

Oh well, I hope that game's successful in the areas where it currently can be sold.


Anyway, I had a copy of questions since I assume that most of you are playing this on the computer just like with MUGEN:

1. What buttons on the keyboard/laptop correspond to in-game buttons like A and B?

2. About how much memory would say you would need free to play this (well, I guess the trial version in my case) "smoothly"?

ToyRobotTerror
05-03-2007, 12:43 AM
1. What buttons on the keyboard/laptop correspond to in-game buttons like A and B?

2. About how much memory would say you would need free to play this (well, I guess the trial version in my case) "smoothly"?

1.You can set it up in the config

2. i manage with 512

Sonic_Reaper
05-03-2007, 12:58 AM
I wish netplay didnt blow so. Someone's gotta hack it up and slap some Kaillera on this bitch.

MAGUS1234
05-03-2007, 02:44 AM
I wish netplay didnt blow so. Someone's gotta hack it up and slap some Kaillera on this bitch.
this game is basicallty ass unless we get a lobby :(

Chipp Zanuff v5
05-03-2007, 04:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ1mlwjz8Z8

basic soldat combos

Bitesize
05-03-2007, 01:44 PM
Love this game!

Kanae and Fritz for the win!

More people should play this.

Clear Sky
05-03-2007, 01:55 PM
Awesome Wei stuff.

Much love for this Hydra. :lovin:

shadowcharlie
05-03-2007, 02:09 PM
As for Sai's gaze attacks--that sucks. It's really difficult to combo 22? special attacks :( ABC from any normal attack is much easier, but I'm not really sure if it's worth 3 stocks.i say doing one status is not worth it at this point most people disagree but imo the speed is the only really worthwhile standalone hypnosis because it throws the pace of the game more in your favor.

is there something you don get about 2b?it sucks unless u end it with uppercut ? his only good normal is maybe MAYBE the c mixups the mines are slow as shit the super mines suck becuaseo f damage scale and the fireballs are slow and easy to parry his jabs can be 'red' parried and his run is not that much better then sais walking speed

Anyone here play Sai?

Anyway's I was wondering if anyone else plays him? So far I only got one descent combo and it's w/ the enemy on the wall:

j.C > s.B, back+C, qcf+A (time) s.A, s.B, qcf+b xx qcf super

Does around 4300 Damage
.its solid but in a match i suggest u go for crossup b instead to start

Is Saiīs regular status stuff usable? Itīs pretty to jump over them.
i dont think u can afford the risk of getting it vs getting damage at this point

H-F Blade
05-03-2007, 04:46 PM
This game is pretty fun. I'll have to get used to it after playing the BBB demo for quite a bit. x_X Is there a wiki page for this game by any chance?

woof
05-03-2007, 05:52 PM
not yet



hint hint :7)

Spooty Whiteboy
05-03-2007, 06:35 PM
Anyone figure out what all you can unlock?

I know this much:

1st clear - Blitztank & Theatre Mode
2nd clear - Murakumo
3rd clear - Time Attack Mode
4th clear - Survival Mode
5th clear - Sugoroku Mode (board game type thing)
6th clear - Music

nothingxs
05-03-2007, 09:33 PM
j.C > s.B, back+C, qcf+A (time) s.A, s.B, qcf+b xx qcf super

J.B 5B 4C 236A 5B 236B 214BC does more damage. So does J.B 5B 5C 5A 5B 214BC. You can only do this in the corner, though -- we need something better off of a crossup other than:

crossup J.B 2A 5B 236B 214BC

nothingxs
05-03-2007, 10:24 PM
Fun Sai thing I just found:

If you land a 236B off something like crossup J.B 2A 5B 236B, against someone who tech rolls a lot, you can opt not to super, crossup with 236C (it puts you RIGHT BEHIND THEM), then do 2A 5B ABC.

E-bortion
05-03-2007, 10:28 PM
i generally hate doujin games but this is actually quite decent! i approve.

Dark Shinryuken
05-03-2007, 10:30 PM
its solid but in a match i suggest u go for crossup b instead to start

Yeah I'll usually do it with cross up as well but it's hard to get in a cross up when your on the wall. Especially when the AI reads everything you do.

J.B 5B 4C 236A 5B 236B 214BC does more damage.

Reason why I do the above is because sometimes I can't get 5B to hit after 236A, I think you need a little more space from the opponent and that only works, as you've already listed, with jB (assuming your talking about crossing up). I usually don't like using Light's in game's like this (and Melty Blood) for combo's due to damage scaling.

On a side note...
----------------------------

Alright so Kanae ain't as bad as I thought. Typical grappler but still, she is way too normal. Anyway here are some stuff I figured out with her after playing her more (last time I didn't even give her a chance).

-6C is pretty good after a few pokes, stops alot of crap. You can repeat jabs or if it hits cancel into super.

-236 Super can be followed by 22 super. You can end any command throw with 2C for a bit of extra damage.

-Typical grappler combo's j.C 236 super dd super = 4500+ damage or Jab + grab, etc. etc.

-2C in the air is good but I think it leaves you open if opponent blocks

-You can stop normal ground parry's/counter by C in the air and 236 super when you land (worked on the AI when it tried to parry my C, I didn't get countered).

I've also been practicing with the Nun a bit. I'm still experimenting on a wall combo but I am trying to combo in 213A, A and super cancel that... though at the moment I can't seem to get 213A to connect even though its happened before... Gotta get my priorities straight.

5300:
j.back+A, 4B4C, 1A5B5C, 1A5B5C xx 236B+C

You can do the above wall combo w/o super and you'll get damage around 4000.

Anyway I think its silly how you can toss Blitztank. I feel like I'm fighting a cardboard box now.

nothingxs
05-03-2007, 10:43 PM
I would say that Sai is somewhere in the lower tiers in terms of how good he is. However, I think his main strength lies in the fact that he can set up some pretty deceptive shit.

If you land the crossup B a little early-ish but not too early so that 2A would still combo in, you can, on block, throw just about immediately after the 2A. You can instead opt to 2A your way out of danger.

Anytime you land a B shouldercharge or a standing C, you can decide if you want to go for the ground crossup of C shouldercharge. If they roll, wait until they aren't flashing anymore and hit them with unblockable ABC, or do 22BC a LITTLE earlier, while they are still waking up.

Any landed B shouldercharge can turn into 214BC, which is the most damaging cancel I can think of. 236A 236BC doesn't do the same amount, I think.

I wish he had more shit! :(

Dark Shinryuken
05-03-2007, 10:50 PM
Yeah me too. I also felt that way when I played Kanae. But honestly I haven't played anyone else except Kanae and Sai for more than just a few minutes (I only really touched four characters in this game, aside the Gun-Nun I played the big guy with the gay looking hair, he plays like balrog and cancelling into his 4-3 super is pretty damaging). Anyway...

I hope they release a patch that gives the characters new (hopefully useful) stuff.

nothingxs
05-04-2007, 01:50 AM
The big guy is called Wei.

ToyRobotTerror
05-04-2007, 08:20 AM
I just finished sugoruko and you unlock hard sugoruko mode. With challenges like defeating 5 soldats and 2 blitztanks with superarmor and fritz on crack in 99 seconds i wonder what hard mode has in store?

Tizoc
05-04-2007, 08:59 AM
Anyone got another link for the main trial? I can't DL from any of the posted links T_T

Darkstalker
05-04-2007, 09:07 AM
I just finished sugoruko and you unlock hard sugoruko mode. With challenges like defeating 5 soldats and 2 blitztanks with superarmor and fritz on crack in 99 seconds i wonder what hard mode has in store?

What..

How do you unlock this Sugoruko?

ToyRobotTerror
05-04-2007, 09:53 AM
Beat the game 5 times i think. And hard mode is making of bleed out of my ears. When i finish this and if that unlocks a valhall sugoruko mode i'm going to cry.
I just met 2 buffed up nuns and it is haaaard. Especially since they surround me and keeps shooting me in the face, when i do beat them RESURRECTION!

Gwyrgyn Blood
05-04-2007, 10:39 AM
Can Anonym resurrect twice in one round if she gets enough bar to?

ToyRobotTerror
05-04-2007, 11:45 AM
Yes since it's a helper.
Using helpers yourself is pretty useless unless you use 2 and get the cpu pinned in the corner. And when your helpers get hit you also loose life.

Clear Sky
05-04-2007, 11:45 AM
Can Anonym resurrect twice in one round if she gets enough bar to?

LOL, yes you can, but I'm not sure if you get the same amount of health that you would on your first resurrection. Now, I'm too lazy to check that...:p

ToyRobotTerror
05-04-2007, 11:53 AM
Oh i completly misunderstood him. I need to stop playing sugoruko.

woof
05-04-2007, 12:31 PM
also yeah sugoruko is really awesome




every fighting game needs this shit

ToyRobotTerror
05-04-2007, 12:45 PM
What program opens .pak files? I want to rip the art and sprites. Oh and I'll gladly upload matchvids if someone want to send me some.

Waluigi-Soap
05-04-2007, 12:54 PM
It's likely a custom file format altogether, so don't expect to open it up in any ordinary program. Sometimes if you're lucky, renaming the extension to zip will do the trick, but it depends. "pak" doesn't really mean anything, they could have used any file extension they felt like using.

Master Chibi
05-04-2007, 01:02 PM
I don't know if I want to rock witch bitch or gun nun. Witch bitch does run away hella better, but nun gun is way more fun / stylish.

Not that I actually bother doing combos with either one.

:rofl:

shadowcharlie
05-04-2007, 06:45 PM
ok so two things
can someone check if nun does more damage once she ressurects? iv heard people say she does and some say she does not

i didnt know mura had a followup option to teleport down he does an up kick
=( does it suck?

woof
05-04-2007, 07:15 PM
i dont think its anything worth noting



maybe if it launched, but hes got too much recovery to follow up with anything

polarity
05-04-2007, 09:00 PM
STOP PMING ME ASKING WHERE TO GET THE GAME JESUS CHRIST

The Damned
05-04-2007, 09:27 PM
STOP PMING ME ASKING WHERE TO GET THE GAME JESUS CHRIST

Hahaha.

Why the fuck are people doing that? :looney:


Anyway, since I have nothing to discuss at the moment given that I haven't even had the chance to get the trial version on my laptop, much less the full version (if I ever find it), I just wanted to thank woof for the rar of the music.

I really like Sai and Mycale's alongside the Final Boss's (as woof said)--they're all decent at worst, which is very surprising given that seems to be all based on as things as original as can be. I guess it makes this game all that more outstanding and should set a new level for the "professionals".

4649
05-04-2007, 10:15 PM
good shit to Gwyrgyn Blood for coming over for casuals in this
Kanae v. Kanae is too much fun XD
also Fritz and Marilyn are top fuckin' tier :o

woof
05-04-2007, 10:24 PM
fritz is "hard" if you dont know how to react right
watch for his ABC setups, you only have to parry once for the majority if not all of his moves

marilyn just keep that bitch off your back and know her good normals and pressure strings and how to parry shit like 5C and 2B/5B especially


i dont think theyre top



edit: gonna upload matchvids later :7)

Shocky II
05-04-2007, 10:46 PM
Anyone have a translated command list? I can't understand any of the moves that don't have arrows and the English alphabet.

Sonic_Reaper
05-04-2007, 10:47 PM
You damn well better! I'm really enjoying this game. It feels "fresh", while keeping things fun and simple. We need some bigger tournies. Too bad it's PC only.

ToyRobotTerror
05-05-2007, 01:07 AM
Anyone have a translated command list? I can't understand any of the moves that don't have arrows and the English alphabet.
Whoīs moves are you talking about?

EDIT: CPU canīt handle Blitztanks j.3c lol

Dark Shinryuken
05-05-2007, 01:38 AM
Speaking of Blitztank anyone play him? I got some slightly extended combo's that work with Sai on Blitztank, it's pretty funny tossing that thing around. Such a stupid design.

Anyone I just wanna know if that thing has combo's. :P

ToyRobotTerror
05-05-2007, 01:42 AM
Speaking of Blitztank anyone play him? I got some slightly extended combo's that work with Sai on Blitztank, it's pretty funny tossing that thing around. Such a stupid design.

Anyone I just wanna know if that thing has combo's. :P
Post combos :annoy:

Bowling Pin
05-05-2007, 01:54 AM
You can get the game right here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparta)

Bitesize
05-05-2007, 11:38 AM
LOL

Anyhoo, I was wondering how the tiering is in this game. :wonder:

From my limited experience I think it looks a bit like this:

S: Akatsuki
A: Kanae, E-Soldat
B: Wei, Marilyn, Fritz
C: Sai, Murakumo, Blitz tank

Don't kill me :sweat:

H-F Blade
05-05-2007, 11:46 AM
You left out Anonym. :\

woof
05-05-2007, 11:50 AM
that tier list is really fucked


akatsuki mycale fritz
wei marilyn soldat
anonym sai kanae mura
blitztank-kun ^A^

4649
05-05-2007, 04:57 PM
murakumo should be B at least, he rapes anonym, sai AND kanae, they have too hard a time punishing him unless he fucks up REALLY bad

shadowcharlie
05-05-2007, 05:00 PM
murakumo should be B at least, he rapes anonym, sai AND kanae, they have too hard a time punishing him unless he fucks up REALLY bad
elaborate plz

4649
05-05-2007, 10:29 PM
too drunk to play theory fighter, sorry

shadowcharlie
05-05-2007, 11:13 PM
101 patch is out now

nothingxs
05-06-2007, 12:00 AM
101 patch is out now

wtf? already

Nwordtim
05-06-2007, 01:15 AM
ah man patch is out when i just got this game tonight damn... btw does anyone here play on the net yet I really want to play someone you know who can probably rape me

The Damned
05-06-2007, 02:38 AM
...And, meanwhile, while the patch for the full version is out, some dumbass can't even figure out how to press "Start" for the trial version on his laptop despite having pressed every key thrice.

Unfortunately, as often is the case, that dumbass is me.

I sort of asked this earlier, and was "satsified" (read: too lazy to clarify that wasn't my actual question in a new response) when it was "answered" (read: understandably misunderstood) earlier. However, I have to ask this again:

What on the keyboard is supposed to correspond to what in the game? What is A? B? C? Start?

(Do I need a joystick? Is that why I fail at something so seemingly simple?)

Chipp Zanuff v5
05-06-2007, 03:07 AM
I agree with woof's tier list but i think soldat is top 3 :V

Mister K
05-06-2007, 03:20 AM
Im Drunk its 6 am and no one will play me in the UIRC channel, so here i am posting. I like tier list cept for a few things

-Kanae is up one if not two tiers.
-Soldat is up
-Wei is down one
-Blitztank is nasty looking
-Anyonym is mad cool but I cant play that bitch.

Thats my opinion. And if you disagree play against my Kanae, preferably nowish!

:annoy: :annoy: :lovin:

PS someone mentioned not being able to combo after her 2b as AA, which is false, you can do alot, one thing being 22 super.

Darkstalker
05-06-2007, 03:46 AM
...And, meanwhile, while the patch for the full version is out, some dumbass can't even figure out how to press "Start" for the trial version on his laptop despite having pressed every key thrice.

Unfortunately, as often is the case, that dumbass is me.

I sort of asked this earlier, and was "satsified" (read: too lazy to clarify that wasn't my actual question in a new response) when it was "answered" (read: understandably misunderstood) earlier. However, I have to ask this again:

What on the keyboard is supposed to correspond to what in the game? What is A? B? C? Start?

(Do I need a joystick? Is that why I fail at something so seemingly simple?)

The default controls map everything to a joystick, I think.

You need to open the config file to bind the keys yourself..

Henaki
05-06-2007, 06:13 AM
award to best playable tank based character in a fighting game goes to akatsuki blitzkampf

edit: WHAT IS THE POINT OF KANAE'S DIRECTIONAL THROW AGFH

edit2: if anyone wants to play my sanae lets rock i cant host tho ;(

4649
05-06-2007, 07:17 AM
i won't be playing this online :P

my reposted tier list from dustloop:

my tier list with explanations

S: akatsuki, fritz, marilyn

i give you your ken, yun and chun ladies and gentlemen. akatsuki is basically ken in 3s, needing very little explanation. gets meter easily, has messed up 50/50 games that lead to corner loops that hurt badly, very safe. fritz has broken teleports and samurai spirits pokes with insane priority, and invincible dashes mean he can always get away clean. also dont neglect his air game, mixing up between jump B and jump insta-teleport ( Toki much? ) is too good. marilyn is basically insane right now, 236A fakeout to throw is really stupidly good, a dp hitbox that hits from behind is stupidly good, a bnb that puts you in the corner for free where you have to guess off her stupidly good mixup and cant just mindlessly parry lest you get fucked up....she's just stupidly good. ( ehem )

A: mycale e-soldat

these two have the best runaway next to fritz in my opinion. mycale's "gugumiru!" spike super is really hard to parry on reaction and her ability to knockdown and charge 22+B for overhead on release is nothing to sneeze at, plus she has yun + yang divekick game. :D
soldat is, well, guile, which obviously means he can be offense or defense and he's way too safe. i think he actually might end up a little better than his current ranking seeing as how he's almost akatsuki-level good, he just needs to follow ABC ( Always Be Charging ) law.

B: murakumo, wei
murakumo has a really silly teleport game involving setting mines and dash teleporting or jump 2C crossup B to force them towards it. 2B xx [2]8B is really good, his stand or crouch C has good 50/50 priority but gets stuffed by anyone above B tier. he'd be really good if it werent so impossible for him to get close to anyone better than him. ( cough cough FRITZ )
wei's shoulder charge game is somewhat reminiscent of urien, and knocking down into a 22+A charge seems pretty useful. his problems revolve around the fact that despite a good frametrap he has very predictable normals which lead to parry xx punishment.

C: anonym sai kanae
anonym would have the best runaway in the game ( CABLE ) if she had unlimited ammo. as i see it, there isn't a discernable pattern of shots you can do that can keep someone at bay without eventually getting punished for it. her slide should also be cancellable, that would make it at least safe. she also seems to have problems getting damage. she does get kudos for having the best character design in the game though. :p
sai's hypnosis would make him at least A tier if he had a way of consistently setting it up so that it was for free / unblockable / unavoidable and if he had the same priority on his normals that he had circa Akatsuki Shisei Ichigou ( the first game ). as is, he's been toned down whereas it seems he has to be very, very tricky to land anything on anyone good, and keepaway soldat + mycale tactics own him with almost little effort.
kanae has a good frametrap, some really good normals ( why is her 6C Chun's back and Fierce!? ) but she's really slow and requires a lot of dedication to win with. you pretty much have to parry your way out of EVERYTHING ( or play Potemkin.....hi, Gwyrgyn! )

D: blitztank
not much i can say although blitzie's 22+B is pretty good, not much else. he's like a giant Mecha-Twelve or something. :P
__________________

Henaki
05-06-2007, 08:29 AM
hahaha is there any way to set control pad to default

i fucked up and made up and down my select buttons and... well now i cant select menu items... yeah


so basically its impossible for me to play the game

woof
05-06-2007, 08:50 AM
do it outside the game through config file

Henaki
05-06-2007, 08:59 AM
do it outside the game through config file

it doesnt work for me:(

it launches, nothing shows up (but the proccess runs) and.... sits there...

my computers fucking hate me i swear

if someone coujld send me their pad or config file im sure that would fix the problem

Harem
05-06-2007, 09:03 AM
it doesnt work for me:(

it launches, nothing shows up (but the proccess runs) and.... sits there...

my computers fucking hate me i swear

Make config Windows2000 compatible.

EeS
05-06-2007, 09:10 AM
Ok, i have a DOA4 Joystick and it is recognized in windows and not in the Akatsuki BlitzKampf game. What am i Doing wrong, i really want to try this game out.

Henaki
05-06-2007, 09:12 AM
thank you!!!!

Sp00ky
05-06-2007, 02:02 PM
(Arturo posting)

sorry i dont have time to read the thread now but we just had the first Blitzkampf tourney in america that I know of.

heres the tourney thread if youre interested @ the results so post up and blow shit up son.
we played the game for about 3 hours and shit got mad intense pretty quickly so we decided to hold a tourney for this shit. Watch out for tourneys for this game in the future Team Sp00ky style son.

tourney results -
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=131020

peace

edit: just read the thread and saw there was a patch out TODAY. we played the unpatched version unfortunately. :( anyone know about the changes in the patch?

woof
05-06-2007, 02:46 PM
only change i fully understood through awful translating was that the AI difficulty was lowered

Dandy J
05-06-2007, 03:42 PM
Okay I'm going to post my totally uneducated tier list with no actual facts or anything to back it up.

A: Akatsuki, Fritz, Mycale, Marilyn
B: Soldat, Wei, Murakumo
C: Sai, Kanae, Anonym
D: Blitztank

Zaelar
05-06-2007, 04:43 PM
Chibi posting-

Team Spooky runs this shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

;3

Zaelar editing:

Ran japanese style, single elim, one game...and boss characters soft banned. Yellow fever ftw.

FullMetalRoss
05-06-2007, 04:51 PM
Dandy's tier list seems the most solid to me, at least from what I've seen. After playing a bit, I'm a total marilyn convert, bitch is nutsss.

Leebee Link
05-06-2007, 05:07 PM
A: Akatsuki, Marilyn
B+: Soldat, Fritz, Mycale
B: Kanae, Murakumo
C: Sai, Anonym, Wei
D: Blitztank

......

Sabin
05-06-2007, 05:08 PM
Chibi posting-

Team Spooky runs this shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

;3

Zaelar editing:

Ran japanese style, single elim, one game...and boss characters soft banned. Yellow fever ftw.

:lol::looney:

i just watched some videos of fritz cause i never watched any vids of this game before

damn i didnt know fritz had actual combos all my shit was 1 hit zone poke lol i spacing etc etc etc

i learned som new tactics so imma step that shit up son

on a serious note i like how parrying works in this game compared to oh lets say my favorite game in the world 3rd strike :rofl:

this game is mad fun i didnt think i was gonna pick it up but you know...playing shit @ sp00ky's house on a hdtv will definetely change your mind. madddddddddd intense

Zakuta
05-06-2007, 05:37 PM
lol, what's with people posting under different accounts :P

Shame I can't get this game to work. I was looking forward to using Mycale and Kanae :(

Harem
05-06-2007, 05:43 PM
Patch does not want to patch for me. : (

woof
05-06-2007, 06:20 PM
uploaded matchvids on my youtube account

mostly murakumo shit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRBGj4DQbAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfsRb_hv5d0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8gH2OBJTdk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSFisl_DFx4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Juefbn82Q

4649
05-06-2007, 06:22 PM
Okay I'm going to post my totally uneducated tier list with no actual facts or anything to back it up.

A: Akatsuki, Fritz, Mycale, Marilyn
B: Soldat, Wei, Murakumo
C: Sai, Kanae, Anonym
D: Blitztank

after another solid day of play i pretty much subscribe to this one

good shit to Team Spooky!!!! :D
i imagine this game will be hot at Evo East, you'll probably find me playing it

Master Chibi
05-06-2007, 06:44 PM
Man after we got home my Anonym leveled up, I found some shit I didn't even think of that will defintely give you guys trouble, especially you Xaq, haha. God I love this character so hard.

<3

woof
05-06-2007, 06:51 PM
i love how a scene for this game popped up out of nowhere


good shit :wonder:

XAQshinor
05-06-2007, 06:59 PM
Man after we got home my Anonym leveled up, I found some shit I didn't even think of that will defintely give you guys trouble, especially you Xaq, haha. God I love this character so hard.

<3

damn that cant be good :(. imma have to step my shit up.
GET HYPE YO!!!! NAZI REVOLUTION LEZ GO!!!!

Dark Shinryuken
05-06-2007, 07:03 PM
@Master Chibi

Do share, I started playing Anonym more often and now I'm hooked.

woof
05-06-2007, 07:24 PM
last vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Juefbn82Q) out of the batch uploaded


i had no idea mura had a kick followup after his C teleport .. thought it was only A and B for the longest time @A@ ............

Nwordtim
05-06-2007, 10:45 PM
Hey is there like a chat room or something that i can hook up online matches for this game

Tinshi
05-06-2007, 10:53 PM
LETS FUCKING GO SON BLITZFUCKING KAMPF SON word i found maddd NEW shit hahahhahah wait till next tourney hoes.

Henaki
05-07-2007, 12:15 AM
Henaki's guide to play Kanae!!!!!!!

First off, your optimum range is right ouside of her standing C. Why is this? Because you can do qcf+B, standing C or crouching C from this range, meaning a mixup!!!!! (yay!), any parry at this range will allow her to use 22C or qcf+C to punish. Her df+C has a slight window of invulnerability, so its pretty much your prime escape too. If someone jumps forward at you in the corner it will pretty much get out out of there 100% of the time. Her primary anti-air is 2B. Jumping 2C has lots of ambigous cross ups.


COMBOX: AA QCF+A 22C, butts damage, works ONLY at point blank
jump in A/B/C, QCF A/BC works and stuff
AA QCF BC 22 BC ABC ffff super combo, have to do all the prequisites for the last part to hit
AB AAB ahhagha crap
anti-air A 22C and stuff works too
f+C QCFA too aaa
6C 2C
parry, followup, 22C

Uhhh thats sadly like it.

ToyRobotTerror
05-07-2007, 12:16 AM
Hey is there like a chat room or something that i can hook up online matches for this game
#blitzkampf on efnet

Sonic_Reaper
05-07-2007, 12:43 AM
I'm not sure why people are considering Sai to be so low (in tier). His cross-up is brain-dead easy, as are his combos. Seems like win-win to me.

ToyRobotTerror
05-07-2007, 01:00 AM
I'm not sure why people are considering Sai to be so low (in tier). His cross-up is brain-dead easy, as are his combos. Seems like win-win to me.
Yeah but he suffers too much from damage scaling and the priority of his moves arent that good.

Nwordtim
05-07-2007, 01:05 AM
#blitzkampf on efnet
Thank you

Sonic_Reaper
05-07-2007, 01:12 AM
Yeah but he suffers too much from damage scaling and the priority of his moves arent that good.

I dunno. st.A seems pretty awesome. st.B and b+C are decent anti-airs too (not to mention his qcb super).

ToyRobotTerror
05-07-2007, 02:41 AM
Does anyone want to make a matchup chart?


edit: someone posted these at herv
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f63/TRTerror/bombshell0akcopylb0.gif
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f63/TRTerror/saico5.gif

edit2:
I mailed play-asia in hope that they would look it over.

Chipp Zanuff v5
05-07-2007, 05:17 AM
This game.... Too powerful

Henaki
05-07-2007, 05:48 AM
Does anyone want to make a matchup chart?

we've gotten this good at the game so far?lol

anyone have any mycale combos?

Master Chibi
05-07-2007, 08:39 AM
i firmly believe that anonym vs sai is the worst match up in the game by far, it's q vs makoto ugly, st guile vs st dhalism ugly, it's just fucking painful as hell to play.

And Sai sure as fuck isn't C tier, but then you guys shouldn't be doing tier lists this god damn early, and certainly not based on netplay shit anyway.

Gwyrgyn Blood
05-07-2007, 08:41 AM
Henaki you missed 6C 2C which is a really important combo. Her 6C in general is very good.

nothingxs
05-07-2007, 08:52 AM
Anonym doesn't have much she can do to stop Sai from crossing her up, does she?

Sai, however, doesn't have many tools to do a lot of damage. He can, however, be a sneaky asshole.

If your opponent quick recovers often, like I said earlier, landing a 236B, you can 236C to do a ground crossup as they're recovering. That can lead into 2A 5B then either 22BC, ABC, 236B into 214BC -- whatever you normally like finishing things with.

Sai's shoulders need to do a lot more damage than they do right now.

Master Chibi
05-07-2007, 09:00 AM
Forget crossing up, she's got practically nothing outside of random (god willing haha) 4C, 2C, 2B, j.2A/B/C, or parry (which in reality makes it even worse for her as he lands RIGHT next to her) to keep him out. Dash elbow shuts down most of her game, she can't punish it on block, has to waste meter to push him away, and then when he's in her guard meter gets cut down really quickly. Once he's out she can keep him out (to an extent), but his speed and mix-ups just fuck with her in all the wrong ways.

Henaki
05-07-2007, 09:03 AM
Henaki you missed 6C 2C which is a really important combo. Her 6C in general is very good.

oh i didnt notice that combos haha

yeah 6c is really good though

Nwordtim
05-07-2007, 09:24 AM
Just wondering once again does anyone here also play E soldat

Turbovec
05-07-2007, 09:36 AM
*points to his spankin' new AV*

Henaki
05-07-2007, 09:41 AM
Just wondering once again does anyone here also play E soldat
yes.

everyone.

sycoticfatboi
05-07-2007, 09:46 AM
where can i get the game >.>

Henaki
05-07-2007, 09:50 AM
check irc

Nwordtim
05-07-2007, 09:56 AM
yes.
everyone.
wow is he that popular of a character, well I guess that make sense I mean the demo only gave you 4 characters but, still kind of a shock.

Henaki
05-07-2007, 10:38 AM
im obviously exadurating but hes easy to play, the only thing you need to learn are his pressure strings and a few combos and hes otherwise very easy to take any other fighting game skills and apply them here. and hes the secondary fireball archtype so naturally everyone plays him anyway.

danthedominatorer
05-07-2007, 11:05 AM
still having trouble with online, but a fun game

The Damned
05-07-2007, 11:14 AM
im obviously exadurating but hes easy to play, the only thing you need to learn are his pressure strings and a few combos and hes otherwise very easy to take any other fighting game skills and apply them here. and hes the secondary fireball archtype so naturally everyone plays him anyway.

Haha.

You know, it's kind of funny.

When I finally got the demo to work (thanks for stating to me Darkstalker what should have been obvious from the front page), he was the person that I had intended on making my main...but then I quickly remembered that for someone weirdass reason, the Flash Kick motion is impossible for me to do on laptop despite the fact that there's what it should be the most precise for me to execute it. Even weird, it's only like I only do them as reversals....

So I ended up picking Fritz and Mari Sue (whose Flash Kick attacks I also cannot do unless I'm as reversals) over him since I refuse to touch Akatsuki.

Speaking of Fritz, he's rather refreshing and after learning how to do his aerial teleport/dash and the fact that it cancels from A in the air, I certainly agree him being top tier even in the trial version. Hell, he was only person that I was able to beat Valhall difficulty with somewhat easily (outside of, of course, Akatsuki, who seems to rape him once he gets in).

It sucks that I have to finally learn how to use IRC or whatever it's called just because I can't a copy of this game otherwise, apparently.

(P.S. Although I'm not surprised that Anonym vs. Sai is a horrible match-up given the character descriptions, I'm quite surprised that it seems to go the opposite way. Sai must be a lot faster than I'm realizing for that to be true, even without the fact that gun nun has to reload eventually.

Can anyone tell me how bad Anonym vs. Kanae is since I can't find out for myself at the moment?)

Master Chibi
05-07-2007, 11:32 AM
I'm pretty sure Anonym vs Kanae would suck for Kanae pretty damn badly (for Kanae).

X(

Gwyrgyn Blood
05-07-2007, 12:22 PM
Kanae has a few tricks but it is a pretty hard matchup. The main thing is just like any throw character VS run away character ... you have to pay attention to where they want to be and catch them trying to go there. 22C helps get you in, as does 3C. But you pretty much just get good at parrying while moving forward.

Henaki
05-07-2007, 01:45 PM
UMMMM splash travels hella far, and can avoid any horizontal shots because it moves up

but yeah tahts like 3 moves :/, on the plus side everything anonym has is like, avoidable

Master Chibi
05-07-2007, 01:48 PM
Right Henaki, everything she has is avoidable. I'll make sure to just walk right into Kanae's arms in that match up, you know, to give her a friendly hug and all.

Whatever you say buddy.

Get your ass to W2Z on the 19th so I can shoot you in the face. Literally ;D.

MAGUS1234
05-07-2007, 01:51 PM
(watches vids of Murakumu spamming 2b all day)


Hmmm?

nothingxs
05-07-2007, 01:56 PM
I'd think Kanae can destroy Anonym since Anonym doesn't really have ways to get out other than aerial-3 bullet showers...

woof
05-07-2007, 01:58 PM
if kanae gets close then ya anonyms pretty much dead

nothingxs
05-07-2007, 01:58 PM
(watches vids of Murakumu spamming 2b all day)


Hmmm?

Actually, it's 2B 2C. 2B by itself is suicidal.

Master Chibi
05-07-2007, 01:58 PM
I'd think Kanae can destroy Anonym since Anonym doesn't really have ways to get out other than aerial-3 bullet showers...

You motherfuckers have got to stop playing theory fighter, seriously.

Who the hell said Kanae would be getting 'in' in the first place?

What game are you playing here?

woof
05-07-2007, 02:08 PM
we are playing blitzkampf :7)



Actually, it's 2B 2C. 2B by itself is suicidal.
truth. even then, sometimes we miss the followup due to the game's glorious netcode. bad or not, it's all he has sometimes :looney:

nothingxs
05-07-2007, 02:11 PM
You motherfuckers have got to stop playing theory fighter, seriously.

Who the hell said Kanae would be getting 'in' in the first place?

What game are you playing here?

Hence "I'd think," I'm not saying it happens. I'm saying I'd think. If Anonym takes to the air then Kanae CAN punish that. Kanae's really not all that bad. I'm just saying...

It seems better than most of Anonym's matchups, though! That reloading looks like it hurts her way more than it should.

Master Chibi
05-07-2007, 02:18 PM
Anonym's only reason to go to the air is to actually escape that way (214C). I didn't say Kanae was bad either, but she'll have a hella hard time getting in Anonym, imho. She has ways around reloading too, but that's me secret (not really a secret XD).

From what I've played Anon's worst match up is Sai, she has equal trouble against Marilyn thanks to her auto-guard shit. She shuts down Mcylae pretty easily, and annoys the rest of the cast decently without too much trouble. I've yet to play against Muk / Blitz tank, but I don't really care for either character really.

woof
05-07-2007, 02:22 PM
I've yet to play against Muk / Blitz tank, but I don't really care for either character really.
play me ill change your mind...dandy knows whats up.... :cybot:

Master Chibi
05-07-2007, 02:28 PM
play me ill change your mind...dandy knows whats up.... :cybot:

I mean I don't want to take either one seriously right now, seeing as noone here in NYC plays with them / has experimenting with them just yet. Netplay expierence can kiss my ass until it's Monster / EFZ level worthy.

woof
05-07-2007, 02:30 PM
dude monster netplay sucks

Master Chibi
05-07-2007, 02:33 PM
dude monster netplay sucks

yeah you're right

but then netplay should never account for expierence anyway

so get stone and some of your local scene into this or our egos in nyc with this game will blow up pretty damn quickly. im serious when i say we run this shit.

:lovin:

MAGUS1234
05-07-2007, 02:41 PM
guilty gear online is the best netplay I've ever played.

I can play ec heads with 120 ping fine.

Master Chibi
05-07-2007, 02:44 PM
guilty gear online is the best netplay I've ever played.

I can play ec heads with 120 ping fine.

I can play ec heads by getting the fuck out of my house and going out to play just fine too.

I mean you're talking about #R here :rofl:.

Gwyrgyn Blood
05-07-2007, 03:15 PM
Kanae can get in pretty easy honestly, you only need a few successful maneuvers to get in. And even if you miss a parry, it doesn't hurt that bad. The only real hard part is parrying bullets when you are in that mid range area when it becomes difficult to react to them. Kanae's kicks are long as fuck so she doesn't even have to get point blank to start an offensive.

Kanae's 662C also really closes the distance very well, and punishes late reloads and other things.

Of course I play characters who have to 'get in' as a rule so maybe I'm just used to dealing with this kind of stuff.

woof
05-07-2007, 03:21 PM
so get stone and some of your local scene into this or our egos in nyc with this game will blow up pretty damn quickly. im serious when i say we run this shit.

prove it then




until then i only have art to play in june for your little scene. lame 87/

Master Chibi
05-07-2007, 03:22 PM
Well you are Henaki show up to Evo East so I can get some match up expierence then, because now I want to shoot you both in the face :annoy:.

And Anonym sucks at mid range. Bad.

prove it then

I don't have to prove it, I know it, we've already got as many people playing this game in NYC as there are in the damn channel, and I can see the numbers increasing. WE'll be the ones providing information on match-ups and all that shit, count on it.

And with the likes of Art, Vic, Saiyd, and Xaq playing this game, man we got this on lock easy. NYC is Blitz central.

:3

Gwyrgyn Blood
05-07-2007, 03:40 PM
Unfortunately I probably won't be able to make Evo East. I'll see what I can do though. :/

Master Chibi
05-07-2007, 03:41 PM
Unfortunately I probably won't be able to make Evo East. I'll see what I can do though. :/

Come up with Jeremy and Eli next time :)!

Gwyrgyn Blood
05-07-2007, 03:44 PM
May is a terrible month for anything on weekends for me. This weekend I'm missing the local C3 (which would have been a good start for Aka and a good 'end' for HnK) and the Evo East weekend due to Vacation. -_-

The 19th is a thing at my house though but nobody really plays Aka down here except Alverez, so it'll probably be more HnK/VF4.

I will come up with those jokers though if they go up in June/July.

Master Chibi
05-07-2007, 03:45 PM
Awesome, I look foward to it Dan.

:D

Gwyrgyn Blood
05-07-2007, 03:49 PM
You guys should get Battle Fantasia in the mean time. Eddie isn't buying it until the price drops to 1500$. :I

Master Chibi
05-07-2007, 03:51 PM
How much does it run for, $2000?

Henaki
05-07-2007, 04:19 PM
How much does it run for, $2000?

5k i think

because of the hardware mostly
Awesome, I look foward to it Dan.

:D
isnt that the date of super practice opera?

Henaki
05-07-2007, 04:22 PM
btw screw anonyms upperkick move

it sucks vs kanae nerf it lol

woof
05-07-2007, 04:27 PM
is that that one move that shows her underwear

Master Chibi
05-07-2007, 04:27 PM
Yeah BF is like 4k-5k, so that'll never see the light of day at CF.

And yeah SPO is on the 19th too ;p.

Also all of Anonym's normals suck.

D:

Gwyrgyn Blood
05-07-2007, 04:47 PM
My thing is small so it's not a big deal, and nobody here is going to SPO anyway.

Price on BF won't come down for a while yeah. I'm still waiting on Mushihime Futari to get down to around 600$.

4649
05-07-2007, 05:33 PM
May is a terrible month for anything on weekends for me. This weekend I'm missing the local C3 (which would have been a good start for Aka and a good 'end' for HnK) and the Evo East weekend due to Vacation. -_-

The 19th is a thing at my house though but nobody really plays Aka down here except Alverez, so it'll probably be more HnK/VF4.

I will come up with those jokers though if they go up in June/July.

man, i wanna go to C3 so bad just to play this but i have to work ;_;
somebody there better be playing it
i may be able to make the nineteenth, i'll keep you posted.....hell, i'll come just for the VF :D

Henaki
05-07-2007, 05:43 PM
is that that one move that shows her underwear
i dunno is it the really really retardedly overpowered uppercut

caliagent#3
05-07-2007, 06:18 PM
btw screw anonyms upperkick move

it sucks vs kanae nerf it lol

hehehe....only ground to air and if someone whiffs. It sucks on block.

HeartNana
05-07-2007, 11:59 PM
Just started playing this. Seems pretty fun. Can't judge until i play against some people, but it could be very interesting.

I use Kanae btw.

nothingxs
05-08-2007, 01:26 PM
And with the likes of Art, Vic, Saiyd, and Xaq playing this game, man we got this on lock easy. NYC is Blitz central.

:3

STOP.

Miami time.

Master Chibi
05-08-2007, 01:35 PM
STOP.

Miami time.

Nah.

We got this.

:wgrin:

nothingxs
05-08-2007, 01:40 PM
Nah.

We got this.

:wgrin:

STOP.

Miami time.

woof
05-08-2007, 01:42 PM
STOP.

Miami time.
:tup:

Master Chibi
05-08-2007, 02:10 PM
STOP.

Miami time.

Nah, son.

We GOT dis.

XAQshinor
05-08-2007, 02:16 PM
Nah, son.

We GOT dis.

fukin seconded

nothingxs
05-08-2007, 02:38 PM
Nah, son.

We GOT dis.

STOP.

Miami time.

Master Chibi
05-08-2007, 02:40 PM
hi.

i'm a giant penis lover.

ok whatever

i give up

woof
05-08-2007, 02:42 PM
STOP.

Miami time.
:cybot:

XAQshinor
05-08-2007, 02:46 PM
STOP.

Miami time.

come to evo east so that you can see the light

nothingxs
05-08-2007, 03:28 PM
:cybot:

you have taught me well

woof
05-08-2007, 07:07 PM
http://corel.leafo.net/images/blitzkampf_BLITZTANK.gif

D'Nyc3
05-08-2007, 07:40 PM
EVO east

I shall be there to rep MIAMI.

EVEN tho NY got DIS!!

Zee Tee Bee
05-08-2007, 07:59 PM
*spam*

hot game

(just wanted to see my new av =p )

edit: bleh, it sucks. i shall return w/ a sexier one (hopefully)

HAIL!

VManOfMana
05-08-2007, 10:50 PM
And with the likes of Art, Vic, Saiyd, and Xaq playing this game, man we got this on lock easy. NYC is Blitz central.

:3

That 'we' sounds like one person too many.

I'll be joining nothingxs on this game.

Master Chibi
05-08-2007, 10:52 PM
That 'we' sounds like one person too many.

I'll be joining nothingxs on this game.

That we = Myself, Xaqshinor, Sabin, Tinshi, Zaelar, ZTB, Sp00ky, Duckman, and more I'm sure.

nothingxs
05-08-2007, 11:20 PM
One person too many.

STOP.

Miami time.

Master Chibi
05-08-2007, 11:31 PM
Ok how about you actually bother contributing to the damn thread already.

nothingxs
05-08-2007, 11:33 PM
Ok how about you actually bother contributing to the damn thread already.

bubz?

Master Chibi
05-09-2007, 06:32 AM
Ok so Anon vs Sai isn't completely free for Sai, but it's still her worst match up and pretty ugly for her. I'm slowly getting it, that's for sure.

:P

nothingxs
05-09-2007, 03:45 PM
Sai is actually a lot better off against a ton of characters once you discover that 214A/B/C are extraordinarily useful in the same vein that KOF Robert's aerial kicks are useful. They stuff/trade with DPs if the DPs aren't done deep enough, so do one when someone's on the ground being silly to put them back on the floor. They're also apparently really safe!

shadowcharlie
05-09-2007, 05:01 PM
^and they also get beat out by alot of aa normals =(

nothingxs
05-09-2007, 05:19 PM
That's why you do it a little deeper sometimes.

4649
05-09-2007, 05:20 PM
Sai's A+B+C is fucking scary looking. like something out of Hellsing.... "releasing all control art restrictions! ....~ OH SHI~"

too bad there's no reliable way to land it or i'd play him ._.

Master Chibi
05-09-2007, 06:31 PM
Sai's A+B+C is fucking scary looking. like something out of Hellsing.... "releasing all control art restrictions! ....~ OH SHI~"

too bad there's no reliable way to land it or i'd play him ._.

Oh there is.

In fact you can combo into the lesser versions too.

:P

woof
05-09-2007, 06:34 PM
too bad there's no reliable way to land it or i'd play him ._.
you can combo into his ABC ..

Tinshi
05-09-2007, 06:49 PM
I need practice on stick man seriously i do its getting annoying that i dont have a pad for this game.

4649
05-09-2007, 07:22 PM
Oh there is.

In fact you can combo into the lesser versions too.

:P

okay, i got a reliable A+B+C combo ( cr. AAB 236A xx ABC .....reliable midscreen but at first i wasnt cancelling early enough ) but how the hell do you combo the lesser ones n_n;;;;

woof
05-09-2007, 08:35 PM
hey guy that prolly scales it to the point where the ABC isnt even worth it much


if anything id confirm from like stand B or shoulder or somethin

ToyRobotTerror
05-10-2007, 01:59 AM
Sai is actually a lot better off against a ton of characters once you discover that 214A/B/C are extraordinarily useful in the same vein that KOF Robert's aerial kicks are useful. They stuff/trade with DPs if the DPs aren't done deep enough, so do one when someone's on the ground being silly to put them back on the floor. They're also apparently really safe!
I agree spinning chicken wings is really good, if you fail a crossup you can scw escape(doesnt work that well on anonym since shell shoot you in the back)

Sonic_Reaper
05-10-2007, 12:53 PM
Sai's ABC does very good damage comboed off of just two standing A's. There's enough time for hit confirm too.

Master Chibi
05-10-2007, 12:59 PM
Plus it's SUPER GAY IN EVERY WAY

>_<

Ok the Anon vs Sai match up isn't as super ugly horrible as I thought it was, but it's still bad.

Xaq we've got to keep playing, slowly yet surely I'll make this match up work.

(God, this would all be solved with an alpha counter.)

:(

nothingxs
05-10-2007, 06:50 PM
sai is the complete opposite of gay

in fact i'd have to say he is the manliest man

ever

hell he's reaching kenshiro levels

Leebee Link
05-10-2007, 07:22 PM
lol

no way. that noise he makes when he is shielding sounds retarded.

4649
05-10-2007, 07:22 PM
i think its only gay because you get hit with a fucking fish every time you jump, wtf is that :/
i mean, where the hell does it come from