View Full Version : Gamecube got the most balenced version of CvS2
RedPhase
02-05-2007, 01:03 PM
No RC crap.Why don't they play this version in tournaments?
DragonSama
02-05-2007, 01:05 PM
Because It's not "Arcade perfect" and you're a scrub!
renvi
02-05-2007, 01:21 PM
Why GC. XBOX is the superior scrub version.
No RC crap.Why don't they play this version in tournaments?
Why didn't your mother abort you?
Demon Dash
02-05-2007, 01:41 PM
Why didn't your mother abort you?
As harsh as that comment was, I loled...
FSgamer
02-05-2007, 01:45 PM
No RC crap.Why don't they play this version in tournaments?
GC version isn't arcade perfect and it has the stupid EO controls. If you're not good enough to deal with RCs you probably shouldn't be playing CvS2 in the first place.
supermin
02-05-2007, 02:02 PM
eo p-groove has super cancels
its pretty awesome
complexz
02-05-2007, 02:06 PM
im definatly not a serious cvs2 player, but wouldent taking away RC's make the game LESS balenced. blanka and sagat would just be that much more dominant.
RedPhase
02-05-2007, 02:30 PM
GC version isn't arcade perfect and it has the stupid EO controls. If you're not good enough to deal with RCs you probably shouldn't be playing CvS2 in the first place.
eh...no the EO is a setting its not standard.
How is it not arcade perfect and Xbox version is?
DaDesiCanadian
02-05-2007, 02:34 PM
RC was pretty much one of the only things that kept CVS2 alive. No RC CVS2 is scrub CVS2.
evilmuffinmanX
02-05-2007, 02:35 PM
ex groove/eo mode >boring broke rc ver :zzz:
ArcadeFire
02-05-2007, 02:37 PM
Haha CVS2: EO was the game that got me into fighting games. :rofl:
1/2Man1/2God
02-05-2007, 03:05 PM
The GC version is the best IMO...the controls are set up perfectly for the game,Xbox is best for MVC
Return of Shiki
02-05-2007, 03:08 PM
im definatly not a serious cvs2 player, but wouldent taking away RC's make the game LESS balenced. blanka and sagat would just be that much more dominant.
No, because Capcom didn't just remove RCs when they created CvS2 EO.
They made S-Groove and P-Groove slightly stronger, and they made a bunch of lower tier characters like Yuri, Kyosuke, King, Benimaru and Vice better by raising the damage they do by about 5%.
EDIT: Okay, I found the exact quote from psychochronic's FAQ:
-Sagat, Cammy and Blanka's damage properties are 5%
decreased.
-King, Dan, Kyosuke, Maki, Zangief, Raiden, Yuri, Eagle
and Ryo's damage properties are 5% increased.
-Cammy bounces a lot higher when her Cannon Spike
gets blocked. Think of that move only with her CvS1
properties.
-Maki can no longer juggle a Custom Combo after her
P throw in the corner.
-Hibiki can juggle a Custom Combo after her K throw in
the corner.
-Sagat has some minor frame disadvantage and buffering
in some of his attacks and moves (Gamecube version
only).
-Kim's infinite has been removed. For those of you who
don't know of it, corner the opponent and immediately
cancel a Level 2 Phoenix Kick and keep doing Legs of
Conquest in his second stance. Time it right as it needs
to juggle the opponent.
So yeah, low tiers get a much-needed boost and Sagat/Blanka/Cammy get some much-needed nerfs...so how does the game become less balanced?
RC was pretty much one of the only things that kept CVS2 alive. No RC CVS2 is scrub CVS2.
So I guess P-Groove and K-Groove players are bunch of scrubs, right???:rolleyes:
It seems like every so often, Arturo's definition of SRK is proven right.
Shadowcuz
02-05-2007, 03:08 PM
gotta love doing Guile's flashkick with just a flick of the c-stick
Why GC. XBOX is the superior scrub version.
ex groove/eo mode >boring broke rc ver :zzz:
The GC version is the best IMO...the controls are set up perfectly for the game,Xbox is best for MVC
...is there a way to change my join date so i wont be associated with these chumps?
1/2Man1/2God
02-05-2007, 03:11 PM
gotta love doing Guile's flashkick with just a flick of the c-stick
and walking forward psycho crusher
1/2Man1/2God
02-05-2007, 03:14 PM
...is there a way to change my join date so i wont be associated with these chumps?
stop catchin feelins over opinions lil girl..i posted based on the control settin i feel most comfortable with, there really isn't a right answer here.you either like GC or u like Xbox or PS2...it's all about which one feels the most comfortable to you.
Dios <-X->
02-05-2007, 03:14 PM
In 3s, you could do special moves and cancel them into super arts. why not in cvs2 p groove in the arcade ver? this confuses me.
stop catchin feelins over opinions lil girl..i posted based on the control settin i feel most comfortable with, there really isn't a right answer here.you either like GC or u like Xbox or PS2...it's all about which one feels the most comfortable to you.
no dumbshit there is an answer its the ps2 version since the its the version that most akin to the arcade version, playing cvs2 on the gc felt like tom barenger was stepping on my hand thats why i and 99% of the community play on a stick
Leebee Link
02-05-2007, 03:42 PM
I really wish there was a version that had the EO tweaks to characters, with P groove supercancel and RC. =\
1/2Man1/2God
02-05-2007, 03:45 PM
no dumbshit there is an answer its the ps2 version since the its the version that most akin to the arcade version, playing cvs2 on the gc felt like tom barenger was stepping on my hand thats why i and 99% of the community play on a stick
OPINION.....
Chachi
02-05-2007, 03:47 PM
If I wasn't out of printer paper, I would take a shit on this thread.
Demon Dash
02-05-2007, 03:47 PM
no dumbshit there is an answer its the ps2 version since the its the version that most akin to the arcade version, playing cvs2 on the gc felt like tom barenger was stepping on my hand thats why i and 99% of the community play on a stick
So I guess you forgot the DC version then...? Dumb shit...
So I guess you forgot the DC version then...? Dumb shit...
same shit as ps2 version except ps2 has higher resolution there happy?
1/2Man1/2God
02-05-2007, 04:42 PM
Gc Is Better...
ArcadeFire
02-05-2007, 04:44 PM
Doesn't Xbox CVS2 have the same EO BS?
1/2Man1/2God
02-05-2007, 04:46 PM
Doesn't Xbox CVS2 have the same EO BS?
yea..
Mizuki
02-05-2007, 04:53 PM
OMG this thread is full of lulz...
Saotome Kaneda
02-05-2007, 07:28 PM
My name is Saotome Kaneda and I approve this thread's rating of lulz
it shall remain open for more lulz and once the lulz stop coming it will be closed
FMJaguar
02-05-2007, 07:32 PM
it's part of a master plan...
AC comes to wii
everyone gets wii joysticks for the gamecube port
we're like, well, since your already setup, lets put in some cvs2.
... genius plan i say
altergenesis
02-05-2007, 07:59 PM
Who the hell uses the GC for fighting games anyway?
Skyler
02-05-2007, 08:05 PM
No RC crap.Why don't they play this version in tournaments?
go back to Gaia.com scrub. :rofl:
Gc Is Better...
You are just nonstop, huh?
Vic Viper
02-05-2007, 10:34 PM
The GC version is the best IMO...the controls are set up perfectly for the game,Xbox is best for MVC
Am I the only one that can actually play this with the Big XBox controller than the GC controller?
renvi
02-05-2007, 11:05 PM
...is there a way to change my join date so i wont be associated with these chumps?
you need to read posts carefuly then reply them.
my point was, since this MR.RC hater thinks GC can be used in tournment, then why doesn't he chose the xbox version over the GC. I said the Xbox was superior SCRUB version since it supports stick and xbox live.
I didn't say Xbox was the best version among all versions. Mr. Smart guy.
Gc Is Better...
from you avatar to your post, this is fanboynism at its finest.
SNkNuT
02-05-2007, 11:17 PM
we have gotten too friendly to noobs. cvs2 ps2 ftw as the version mostly used and close to arcade perfect. end.
you need to read posts carefuly then reply them.
my point was, since this MR.RC hater thinks GC can be used in tournment, then why doesn't he chose the xbox version over the GC. I said the Xbox was superior SCRUB version since it supports stick and xbox live.
I didn't say Xbox was the best version among all versions. Mr. Smart guy.
yea i caught that earlier but didn't bother to edit it
blah fgd is a cesspool
Zigmover21
02-05-2007, 11:21 PM
Holy shit, this thread is awesome!
9TNine
02-05-2007, 11:22 PM
:rofl:
Seeing as how RC helped balance the game...
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Vic Viper
02-05-2007, 11:25 PM
we have gotten too friendly to noobs. cvs2 ps2 ftw as the version mostly used and close to arcade perfect. end.
Isn't the DC version slightly better? Only problem is that you have to play it with sticks, since the DC pad isn't quite good for 6 button fighters. The analog triggers kinda hurt my fingers.
Also, you can hack the soundtrack on the DC version as well.
renvi
02-05-2007, 11:28 PM
for cvs2, both PS2 & DC versions are arcade perfect.
ArcadeFire
02-05-2007, 11:35 PM
I love doing Deadly Rave's just by holding > on a stick :lovin:
1/2Man1/2God
02-05-2007, 11:36 PM
from you avatar to your post, this is fanboynism at its finest.
ur a fuckin retard becuase i'm not a fanboy i actually hardly even play my GC and i refuse to get a suck ass Wii. until SSBB comes out,if this was a thread about Playstation and i was co-signing everything for playstation...then u can call me a fanboy...don't take my pikachu av and my liking of the controls for fanboyism.CVS is the only 2-d fighting game GC has from Capcom and it's done well IMO
renvi
02-05-2007, 11:46 PM
OK, so you are saying for 2D fighters, the GC controller is better than PS2 controller!?
go pikachu, go murder some random people with your thundershock, please.
1/2Man1/2God
02-05-2007, 11:50 PM
OK, so you are saying for 2D fighters, the GC controller is better than PS2 controller.
go pikachu, go murder some random people with your thundershock.
no PUSSY BUT FOR CVS it is...IMO, it's just my opinion.Some people feel comfortable with different controllers.I would rather play MVC on Xbox becuase the way the controls are set up, it feels more comfortable to me.the only 2- D i play on PS2 is KOF,CFE,and SF anniversary.
9TNine
02-05-2007, 11:55 PM
Isn't the DC version slightly better? Only problem is that you have to play it with sticks, since the DC pad isn't quite good for 6 button fighters. The analog triggers kinda hurt my fingers.
Also, you can hack the soundtrack on the DC version as well.
My understanding is that the frames and such are all the same, but the sprites on the PS2 version are a bit bigger.
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renvi
02-05-2007, 11:57 PM
good 4 you, son.
I can see that in the future, you are still a scrub @ cvs2.
SuicidalGrandpa
02-05-2007, 11:59 PM
Haha CVS2: EO was the game that got me into fighting games. :rofl:
Same here :sweat:
ArcadeFire
02-06-2007, 12:04 AM
2 buttons gave you access to all levels of punches and kicks LMAO. :looney:
Master Chibi
02-06-2007, 12:10 AM
go pikachu, go murder some random people with your thundershock, please.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Saotome Kaneda
02-06-2007, 01:21 AM
Childish name calling is not lulz. Bring some better material or the countdown begins. Keep fucking up and get banned.
Zaelar
02-06-2007, 01:21 AM
Because scrubs wouldn't know what to do without roll canceling.
Einlanzer
02-06-2007, 01:25 AM
ps2 had the yun glitch that froze the game.
dc version is number 1 because of it.
...but this is just my opinion.
1/2Man1/2God
02-06-2007, 01:45 AM
no one uses yun though
u don't but people do...
Einlanzer
02-06-2007, 01:47 AM
no one uses yun though
true....i was just trying to determine which port was better....
u don't but people do...
people??? tahts racist!!!!
u don't but people do...
but not in tournaments, once again hes asking basically why the ps2 version is the standard and the answer is because it (and the dc) version are closest to the arcade version
1/2Man1/2God
02-06-2007, 01:56 AM
true....i was just trying to determine which port was better....
people??? tahts racist!!!!
lmao!!!!!
altergenesis
02-06-2007, 07:26 AM
I love doing Deadly Rave's just by holding > on a stick :lovin:
...why is why this game is broken.
buyproduct
02-06-2007, 08:08 AM
Who the hell uses the GC for fighting games anyway?
I only use it for those naruto games. (Laugh @ me now). I do have CVS2 for it as well but I only bought it for the cube cause it was on sale and I thought at that time that if I and enough people bought it, that capcom would release other fighting games on the cube. However they did not.
I dont play with the gamecube controller either. I made a stick for my gamecube using the pcb for this all digital contoller. http://baysoftgames.stores.yahoo.net/pegaplco.html
Skyler
02-06-2007, 08:11 AM
ps2 had the yun glitch that froze the game.
dc version is number 1 because of it.
...but this is just my opinion.
which version is easier to obtain in America??
complexz
02-06-2007, 08:49 AM
i think DC version is still easier to obtain in america
ps2 version is mad rare and its not a popular ps2 game so even finding a pirated version nowdays would be difficult (could be wrong)
wheras while there is no american dreamcast version at all, it is one of the most popular dreamcast games and i found and used a torrent for it last week (i have a real copy but my japanese dc broke down like years ago and i hate swap disks)
Mystic_bash
02-06-2007, 09:07 AM
My name is Saotome Kaneda and I approve this thread's rating of lulz
it shall remain open for more lulz and once the lulz stop coming it will be closed
Oh stfu. :arazz:
Arcade>* Nothing will ever beat the atmosphere of a really loud cvs2 cabinet.
Taskmaster
02-06-2007, 10:15 AM
i think DC version is still easier to obtain in america
ps2 version is mad rare and its not a popular ps2 game so even finding a pirated version nowdays would be difficult (could be wrong)
wheras while there is no american dreamcast version at all, it is one of the most popular dreamcast games and i found and used a torrent for it last week (i have a real copy but my japanese dc broke down like years ago and i hate swap disks)
Isnt the PS2 version so rare because Sony America has problems with 2D games?
Cause In Europe (Holland at least) that game is collecting dust in stores
final_cut
02-06-2007, 10:55 AM
It is my OPINION that this thread is full of retarded and win.
which version is easier to obtain in America??
The DC version. PS2 version only had like, one print run and that's it. I stole my copy from a friend. He wasn't playing it and I said "Yoink!" Now my copy collects dust.
Anyway, this thread is 'lulz' as Mizuki mentioned. So, I leave you with a quick diversion:
http://home.comcast.net/~shiki.katsu/onlinestorage/popotan.swf
evilmuffinmanX
02-06-2007, 12:29 PM
No, because Capcom didn't just remove RCs when they created CvS2 EO.
They made S-Groove and P-Groove slightly stronger, and they made a bunch of lower tier characters like Yuri, Kyosuke, King, Benimaru and Vice better by raising the damage they do by about 5%.
EDIT: Okay, I found the exact quote from psychochronic's FAQ:
-Sagat, Cammy and Blanka's damage properties are 5%
decreased.
-King, Dan, Kyosuke, Maki, Zangief, Raiden, Yuri, Eagle
and Ryo's damage properties are 5% increased.
-Cammy bounces a lot higher when her Cannon Spike
gets blocked. Think of that move only with her CvS1
properties.
-Maki can no longer juggle a Custom Combo after her
P throw in the corner.
-Hibiki can juggle a Custom Combo after her K throw in
the corner.
-Sagat has some minor frame disadvantage and buffering
in some of his attacks and moves (Gamecube version
only).
-Kim's infinite has been removed. For those of you who
don't know of it, corner the opponent and immediately
cancel a Level 2 Phoenix Kick and keep doing Legs of
Conquest in his second stance. Time it right as it needs
to juggle the opponent.
So yeah, low tiers get a much-needed boost and Sagat/Blanka/Cammy get some much-needed nerfs...so how does the game become less balanced?
So I guess P-Groove and K-Groove players are bunch of scrubs, right???:rolleyes:
It seems like every so often, Arturo's definition of SRK is proven right.
does any1 have a vid comparing the dc ver to the xbox ver?
Wellman
02-06-2007, 12:31 PM
I'm going to make this confession here instead of visiting my priest...
...About two years ago, I was playing this game with my younger cousins and because they suck at fighters, I decided to give them a chance by playing EO along with them.
...And I lost. At least three times to one of them.
Overworld
02-06-2007, 12:48 PM
Are there any games where the later revisions were the ones everyone wanted to play? It seems usually the first run of a game is the one people like, over what happens later. (I would technically call for this purpose NG, 2I, and 3S different games instead of just revisions for this sake of this question.)
does Virtua Fighter count?
because it went VF4, VF4 Evo, VF4 Final Tuned
maybe tekken 5 too
fishjie
02-06-2007, 01:01 PM
No RC crap.Why don't they play this version in tournaments?
cause then it wouldnt be a bore me to tears turtle fest anymore, and who would want to play that?
oh RC "balances" the game because it gives the low tier a fighting chance, just like 3s parrying "balances" the game. mvc2 doesnt have any bs like that, which is why it isnt a bore me to tears turtle fest.
RedPhase
02-06-2007, 01:32 PM
go back to Gaia.com scrub. :rofl:
porn link deleted
Overworld
02-06-2007, 01:35 PM
does Virtua Fighter count?
because it went VF4, VF4 Evo, VF4 Final Tuned
maybe tekken 5 too
Oh yeah, I entirely forgot the 3D fighters. Thanks.
RedPhase
02-06-2007, 01:35 PM
no PUSSY BUT FOR CVS it is...IMO, it's just my opinion.Some people feel comfortable with different controllers.I would rather play MVC on Xbox becuase the way the controls are set up, it feels more comfortable to me.the only 2- D i play on PS2 is KOF,CFE,and SF anniversary.
Don't waste your time on these prejudiced/biased SRKKKers. They actually think the RC balances the game.Thats down right asstardism.
RedPhase
02-06-2007, 01:41 PM
I love doing Deadly Rave's just by holding > on a stick :lovin:
EO is a setting it is NOT the standard play control.
You have to turn EO on.
How about in tournament play you just NOT turn the optional setting on?
Problem solved SRKKKers...
so level with me
why would removing RC make the game better?
listen we're trying to play the version closest to the arcade
find me a cvs2 eo arcade game
ArcadeFire
02-06-2007, 02:50 PM
EO is a setting it is NOT the standard play control.
You have to turn EO on.
Actually it IS standard in the GC/Xbox versions. Only PS2/Dreamcast where arcade-like. Plus the GC controller blew ass for fighting games that aren't SSBM.
Vynce
02-06-2007, 02:52 PM
I haven't played the GC version of CvS2, but I thought the controls were off in the Xbox version. I bought it, and returned in order to get the PS2 version again- an extra $10, and well worth it. Maybe I'm alone on this, but I thought the controls were off in CvS2, and KOF: Neowave, as well. I didn't have any luck with my arcade stick (SF Anniversary), Akuma pad (same), or Type S controllers.
Wellman
02-06-2007, 02:59 PM
Last I played, you literally can always choose AC when playing EO, meaning all the buttons are at your disposal. It is basically just like picking any of the grooves.
I honestly don't think CvS2: EO is nearly as bad as most folks make it. The only crippling flaw with the game is that the GC isn't that great of a controller.
RedPhase
02-06-2007, 04:40 PM
Actually it IS standard in the GC/Xbox versions. Only PS2/Dreamcast where arcade-like. Plus the GC controller blew ass for fighting games that aren't SSBM.
Eh no its not you can choose to turn it on. I had the game smart one.
GC had a D-pad(I hate the PS2 D-pad the middle part is missing)so no you don't use the analog for a 2d fighter. Use the D-pad. Anymore weak BS SRKKKer?
RedPhase
02-06-2007, 04:43 PM
Last I played, you literally can always choose AC when playing EO, meaning all the buttons are at your disposal. It is basically just like picking any of the grooves.
I honestly don't think CvS2: EO is nearly as bad as most folks make it. The only crippling flaw with the game is that the GC isn't that great of a controller.
But the morons here think AC is automatic and the re-tuned characters(tops getting nerfed and lows getting beefed)is not more balanced.
Eh no its not you can choose to turn it on. I had the game smart one.
GC had a D-pad(I hate the PS2 D-pad the middle part is missing)so no you don't use the analog for a 2d fighter. Use the D-pad. Anymore weak BS SRKKKer?
boo hoo the center part is missing now i can't do...shit you dont need the fucking center part so who cares about the gc and its small dpad
answer my fucking question
why is the EO version better? why is no RC better? why shouldn't we use the version closest to the arcade version?
Don't waste your time on these prejudiced/biased SRKKKers. They actually think the RC balances the game.Thats down right asstardism.
Yes, it does balance the game. Ever since the discovery of RC, Blanka and Sagat became beatable by a large percentage. Pre-RC days EVERYONE had both on their teams because you couldn't win easily without the two.
RC fireball, RC ball, RC anything counters c.fierce and Blanka.
GC had a D-pad(I hate the PS2 D-pad the middle part is missing)so no you don't use the analog for a 2d fighter. Use the D-pad. Anymore weak BS SRKKKer?
Who the fuck plays on pad? Other than you with your fucking Tampon. Guess that explains the name 'RedPhase', huh? Must be that time of the month for you because this is must be one of your monthly "How much more retarded can I get?" threads.
RedPhase
02-06-2007, 04:59 PM
Yes, it does balance the game. Ever since the discovery of RC, Blanka and Sagat became beatable by a large percentage. Pre-RC days EVERYONE had both on their teams because you couldn't win easily without the two.
RC fireball, RC ball, RC anything counters c.fierce and Blanka.
Who the fuck plays on pad? Other than you with your fucking Tampon. Guess that explains the name 'RedPhase', huh? Must be that time of the month for you because this is must be one of your monthly "How much more retarded can I get?" threads.
I love you.:wgrin:
redphase answer my question
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