Big Bang Beat

[Warpticon]

This command interpreter bullshit is stupid.

Sanzou's throw range just got craaazy increase.

[Kayin]

I cant bring myself to play Loli fighters, I get too many people wandering around my house that just be wierd

Are you retarded? There's not a single loli in this game, maybe Kunagi but her voice sounds very mature. If anything the game's a sausage fest.

[sonicspear64]

Are you retarded? There's not a single loli in this game, maybe Kunagi but her voice sounds very mature. If anything the game's a sausage fest.
He was referring to games like AH, MB, and EFZ I guess. I'm pretty sure there are no lolis at all. All of the lolis stayed in Big Bang Age where they belong....

[Xenozip.]

This command interpreter bullshit is stupid.

Sanzou's throw range just got craaazy increase.
Agreed.

Also Kunagi's got a range increase too because her 4C and 6C automatically move forward on the first few frames, so now it's like an auto-kara.
Are you retarded?
Your reading comprehension suggests you are. Not him.

[Warpticon]

It still amazes me people calls MB a "loli game." It has no more little girls than, like, KOF.

Agreed.

Also Kunagi's got a range increase too because her 4C and 6C automatically move forward on the first few frames, so now it's like an auto-kara.

I keep trying to do 214H and keep throwing instead.

I can't believe i can't use H because my P-gauge is down. just a 5H. what the hell.

I hate how I can't buffer 5LMH into 623H anymore, or it just comes out as 214/236H.

of the changes made in the game, the only one that even vaguely makes sense to me is the B-gauge reduction.

[MAGUS1234]

MB, was tsukihime rite? That anime was cool, shame the game was so wack.

[Kayin]

Didn't read a certain post, my bad.

It still amazes me people calls MB a "loli game." It has no more little girls than, like, KOF.

This pisses me off too, and at the same time I've rarely heard anyone call AH a loli fighter. People are just ass-backwards is all.

[Harem]

This pisses me off too, and at the same time I've rarely heard anyone call AH a loli fighter. People are just ass-backwards is all.

lol wut? You may want to lurk moar. :/

[Xenozip.]

It still amazes me people calls MB a "loli game." It has no more little girls than, like, KOF.
It's just easier to type "loli". Plus, people sooner play a game like Arcana Heart because it's fanservice. There's T&A and rape-bait all over the screen in AH. While MB has almost no fanservice or panty-shots or huge-tits, etc.

Of the 21-23 chars in MB only 5 are male. And of the 5 male chars 3 are homo looking. And of the 16-17 females in the game only 2 have any tits to speak of and none of them have any kind of ass whatsoever.

So yeah, MB may not be totally a "loli-game", but it sure is pretty damn girly.

MB = why are you playing the girl that's fully clothed, has not tits or ass, and sounds like a raging bitch that doesn't put out?
AH = Whoa that chick has huge tits and she's all up on that little girl in the swimsuit!

[MAGUS1234]

^^^ROFL
so true. WHERE THE ASS!?

[Shinigami Zero]

T & A. The driving force of the new wave of 2D fighting games.

[Warpticon]

girly != loli

[Hayama Akito]

Oh god, not another "oh god/fuck loli!!" discuss again.

For me 2D fighters are engines, systems, hitboxes, frames and commands now, EFZ is simply awesome and everybody plays it if only the characters were from G.I Joe or some shit.

Back to B3: Im still thinking that this is not the last patch...

[Xenozip.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnJ6xgcmQME

Got bored and made this.

Thanks fooligar for the fyi on fraps. Yay for no more frame drops.

[Bob Poundmax]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnJ6xgcmQME

Got bored and made this.

Thanks fooligar for the fyi on fraps. Yay for no more frame drops.

Fuck dude 60 hits!!!!!

My highest combo was 27 hits with Senna so that makes me look shit tier.

[Warpticon]

Okay, it appears that Sanzou's H button require P-gauge to use at all.

I can't believe how much they fucked this game up in one patch.

[MAGUS1234]

awsome last combo Xeno!
and Warp, EVERY C attack takes bar :(

[Warpticon]

awsome last combo Xeno!
and Warp, EVERY C attack takes bar :(

I wasn't sure, but yeah. That's so stupid. between that and the retarded command interpreter (seriously, you don't charge bar to use specials and then make it retardedly easy to do accidental supers), the game just feels damn near unplayable to me now.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

And HnK is any better?? lol, gtfo

If you want me to be honest, HNK is MUCH better than this game lol

[Shinigami Zero]

I'm not going to let myself be drawn into that argument - about HnK.

That was a little on the amazing side there Xeno - the 60 hit Tenrou combo. I wonder if the Twins are capable of something around that.

Oh, just to regress a bit, I'm all for T&A in my games as long its a well balanced game. Further, what is there not to love about a cute li'l girl completely pwning face?

[Xenozip.]

I wonder if the Twins are capable of something around that. If they didn't fix the untechability on her whiffed air uppercut, then yeah prolly.

[Zelikazi]

Enough complaining, already...

First off, this is just an intermediate patch. In the readme they talk about this.
Second, about the whole "bursting out of supers" thing, they raised that to 4 bars (out of a new total of 5, leaving you with only 1 to combo with even if you succeed). That's pretty expensive. So expensive that you might be better off waiting out the combo and employing those 4 bars offensively.
Third, I like the fact that they're adding so much to the game without making everyone go out and buy a whole new one (I think we can all think of a few series that do this).
Fourth, I can't understand why anyone would say this is either better or worse than HnK. Apples and oranges.
Fifth, you all probably know what you're doing about as well as I do. And I don't have any trouble with the new input system.

I can understand some of you have issues with this game. But seriously, if you take a step back, it's pretty damn fun. The new stuff is just great.

As an aside, if you just go for hit count, some huge numbers can be produced. It generally won't do a lot of damage, though.

[MAGUS1234]

I always liked the game, but now no meter = death...like flat out :(

[Shinigami Zero]

Enough complaining, already...

First off, this is just an intermediate patch. In the readme they talk about this.
Second, about the whole "bursting out of supers" thing, they raised that to 4 bars (out of a new total of 5, leaving you with only 1 to combo with even if you succeed). That's pretty expensive. So expensive that you might be better off waiting out the combo and employing those 4 bars offensively.
Third, I like the fact that they're adding so much to the game without making everyone go out and buy a whole new one (I think we can all think of a few series that do this).
Fourth, I can't understand why anyone would say this is either better or worse than HnK. Apples and oranges.
Fifth, you all probably know what you're doing about as well as I do. And I don't have any trouble with the new input system.

I can understand some of you have issues with this game. But seriously, if you take a step back, it's pretty damn fun. The new stuff is just great.

As an aside, if you just go for hit count, some huge numbers can be produced. It generally won't do a lot of damage, though.

I co-sign on a lot of the points made here. I think that, a lot of us, are spoiled by the more professional efforts and so we are rather quick to complain. If anything I am thankful that this is a patch-able title. One that can grow and change and be set into better balance over time.

At present it is one of my favorite fighting games. I love the style, I love the accessibility of play, and the range of styles I am able to employ.


I really do believe this game would benefit with the addition of Netplay. I have spent this time honing skills that I am unable to put to use because, as of now, I have only one opponent that lives near me. Even worse is that we have yet to play against one another because of our hectic work schedule (as we are co-workers).

I think that once that is added it will cause even more excitement and the community for this game will grow exponentially - as Akatsuki Blitzkampf has (though I have yet to be able to find an opponent).


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Oh, and after a period of re-adjustment I think I like this meter thing. It has caused me to be more thoughtful of my use of specials and abuse of C/H. It's added a strategic element to my game and I think it an improvement overall and to our benefit.

[Xenozip.]

Enough complaining, already... Plenty of people complain and laugh about shitty games like CFJ and SVC all the time, it's a forum and you're allowed to express your opinion, deal with it. At the moment this game is vastly more aesthetically pleasing than either of those other titles, but it's still boring and the system mechanics are still retarded.

Trust me, I'm rooting for them to make a good game. But I'm hoping that they actually turn it into a good game. Right now I'm bitching about the shit they need to fix in order for them to make it a good game.

First off, this is just an intermediate patch. In the readme they talk about this. Good, then let's hope they eventually fix all the retarded system mechanics.

Second, about the whole "bursting out of supers" thing, they raised that to 4 bars (out of a new total of 5, leaving you with only 1 to combo with even if you succeed). That's pretty expensive. So expensive that you might be better off waiting out the combo and employing those 4 bars offensively. Man, in that last combo I posted, I started with one stock (ONE STOCK) and ended up doing 4 supers in a single midscreen combo which could have started from any hit, because I was building stocks mid combo!

And Ikusat informs me that they did not fix Kendo's air super so if I was playing her I could probably get even more supers out because she builds back her stock with each super. So yeah, if I'm sitting on 4/5 stocks because I've been turtling my ass off (which is easy due to the air guard system and lack of overheads) you can't super me, you can't super me at all or I'll just burst ON REACTION to the flash and punish you with a ridiculous loop combo that builds multiple stocks during the process of the combo. I'm not even joking about Kendo, she only needs to start with close to 1 bar and she can loop her combo into air super repeatedly until the knockback becomes too great for her to do any more supers (which happens to be a LOT of supers).

Third, I like the fact that they're adding so much to the game without making everyone go out and buy a whole new one (I think we can all think of a few series that do this). Standard. Melty Blood ReAct, Akatsuki Blitzkampf, Immaterial and Missing Power, Monster, Eternal Fighter Zero. They all recieved upgrade and update patches post-release. And from the look of things Scarlet Weather Rhapsody will probably receive patches too (the demo has already been patched a couple times). Guilty Gear is like the only exception I can even think of.

Yeah here's to hoping that they get it right eventually after a bunch of patches. But as it stands now it's still a pretty damn boring game.

Fourth, I can't understand why anyone would say this is either better or worse than HnK. Apples and oranges. Have you ever played HnK? They're both 2D fighters with similar rulesets, not apples and oranges. More like apples and rotten apples. The BBB boost system comes strait out of HnK for fucks sake (it's even called boosting).

Fifth, you all probably know what you're doing about as well as I do. And I don't have any trouble with the new input system. The thing is, for a lot of us, no it is not fun. Maybe you're having fun in training mode or whatever but so far my experience with the game has been really boring. The combo system, the air guard system, the boost system, the lack of airthrows, the burst system, the OTG system, and the lack of wallslam limitation make the game not fun to play. Nevermind that the characters all have retardedly huge normals.

The complete lack of netplay also makes it hard to play against people anyway. But when I do get to play against humans it's not fun.

Fifth, you all probably know what you're doing about as well as I do. And I don't have any trouble with the new input system.
As an aside, if you just go for hit count, some huge numbers can be produced. It generally won't do a lot of damage, though. Yes because the damage values are now retarded. One super is equal to whatever huge combo you can come up with. So now the goal is to use as many supers at the beginning of the combo as you can for damage, then try and juggle the opponent with normals for as long as you can in order to rebuild meter. Wheeeeee.

[D'Nyc3]

So yea my fraps is acting gay!

Is there anyone out there that can capture good quality replays?

Im sure these combos will be worth it.

-1-

-Beastcoast

[Xenozip.]

-snip-
Try setting BBB options to
Fullscreen
16Bit

And fraps options to
60fps
half size
no cursor checked
no sync unchecked

If it still doesn't work then yeah I can cap.

[D'Nyc3]

Try setting BBB options to
Fullscreen
16Bit

And fraps options to
60fps
half size
no cursor checked
no sync unchecked

If it still doesn't work then yeah I can cap.


Those were my settings from when I did the 1st video and it worked fine.. IDK whats going on this time...:wasted:

[FullMetalRoss]

why the addition of unblockables? and other random foward C's who gives a shit. Daigo is much worse now imo, but he does have accsess to some new orb costing moves I can't see why some of them are good except for the dd+c which is a launcher. The game feels alot slower to me than before. For some reason my computer won't translate over the readme correctly. Is there a complete new movelist posted somewhere (not updating ingame movelist is dumbbbb).

Overall not happy with this patch, doesn't seem like the play tested it much at all.

[NegroNinja]

I would've just preferred new characters, they've got a pretty big roster to choose from.

[D'Nyc3]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_AbwgGUnZI

Big Bang Beat Combo Movie Chapter 2 Featuring Daigo Hotta is up

Version: 1.02

[Zelikazi]

Faulting the lack of netplay is certainly justifiable, even though I personally do not enjoy it a great deal. However...

Man, in that last combo I posted, I started with one stock (ONE STOCK) and ended up doing 4 supers in a single midscreen combo which could have started from any hit, because I was building stocks mid combo!

Even assuming the combo was pulled off correctly in a match, it didn't do all that much damage and it gave the opponent more than 3 stocks.

And Ikusat informs me that they did not fix Kendo's air super so if I was playing her I could probably get even more supers out because she builds back her stock with each super. So yeah, if I'm sitting on 4/5 stocks because I've been turtling my ass off (which is easy due to the air guard system and lack of overheads) you can't super me, you can't super me at all or I'll just burst ON REACTION to the flash and punish you with a ridiculous loop combo that builds multiple stocks during the process of the combo. I'm not even joking about Kendo, she only needs to start with close to 1 bar and she can loop her combo into air super repeatedly until the knockback becomes too great for her to do any more supers (which happens to be a LOT of supers).

Throws are powerful, and all characters have a great deal of mix-up potential. Some characters (Daigo, Agito, Senna) have very dangerous overhead attack abilities, and other characters can at least use B-dashes to create unexpected overheads. I don't think turtling is really such a legitimate strategy.
Kendo's super is now even better in this version, but giving the characters outlandish (although finite...something MB, HnK, and even GG had issues with) combo potential was obviously the developers' goal right from the start.

Have you ever played HnK? They're both 2D fighters with similar rulesets, not apples and oranges. More like apples and rotten apples. The BBB boost system comes strait out of HnK for fucks sake (it's even called boosting).

I shouldn't even need to say that HnK is a lot closer to GG than to BBB.

The thing is, for a lot of us, no it is not fun. Maybe you're having fun in training mode or whatever but so far my experience with the game has been really boring. The combo system, the air guard system, the boost system, the lack of airthrows, the burst system, the OTG system, and the lack of wallslam limitation make the game not fun to play. Nevermind that the characters all have retardedly huge normals.

I sometimes get the impression that you want this game to be no more than a combination of games you have already played.

The main reason I asked for the complaining to stop is that it's just not very constructive. I don't post in game threads to talk about how much I hate said game. I post there to talk about strategies, developments, videos, etc. I'm not trying to single you out here and I realize that you have made a lot of positive contributions to this thread. But there's little to be accomplished in trying to convince everyone that they should despise a game, especially in that game's thread, and especially when many of the reasons are based on a personal conception of what a fighting game should be.

[Mixah]

at evo, i heard there's a version 1.2 or something? how do i upadte the game?

[Xenozip.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63BQXJDdUhA

Oh yeah this game has a long way to go.

RE:
Zelikazi: If the game were no longer in development then yeah complaining would be beating a dead horse. It's only natural to wonder out loud and share opinions about potential future events and the current state of affairs.

And, the combo didn't do much damage because I focused on normals, it's not impossible to start with 1 stock and still do huge damage. And yes turtling is a viable tactic.. again I really have to ask if you've played this game against humans much? The times I've played it vs humans it became really stupid really fast. Check out D'nyc3's latest vid, and also the one I posted in this post. Starting with 1 bar and doing shittons of damage is totally possible. Even easier for Kendo and Daigo.

Mixah: http://aja-games.com/nrf.htm

[Tolki]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RbTWsK_GJs

Kunagi 1.02 stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnJ6xgcmQME

Got bored and made this.

I've newsed your 3 latest videos on BBBB, hope you won't mind ^_^


PS : BBBB is working well, we already have 3 game guides and a new graphical aspect ... And to talk of BBB, it's much more easier than ONE topic for ALL discussions, nope ?

PPS : And even tough I understant why do some players dislikes BBB ... Why so much hate ? Can't you understand some people prefers to play that than GG or HnK ? ...

[Mixah]

hay, thanks for the update. i repped you.

[Xenozip.]

^ Thanks.
-snip- The more potential a game has the more the game will catch hate for failing to deliver. I've already said I'll be playing other games until the next patch arrives.

[PersonaDark]

I still love the game, but I'm going back to the 1.01 patch until the next one. Some of the changes really clashed for me, like the slower P-charge and changes to Senna (noticably slower, altered her uppercut, etc.) and the command imput. Though I have to admit that I might pick up Agito since he seems a little less garbage now.

[Clear Sky]

The main reason I asked for the complaining to stop is that it's just not very constructive. I don't post in game threads to talk about how much I hate said game. I post there to talk about strategies, developments, videos, etc. I'm not trying to single you out here and I realize that you have made a lot of positive contributions to this thread. But there's little to be accomplished in trying to convince everyone that they should despise a game, especially in that game's thread, and especially when many of the reasons are based on a personal conception of what a fighting game should be.

I think most people here have been fair with their criticism about why they don't like how the game is currently like. How is it not natural for them to talk about such a topic since the new patch just came out? If anyone will still be playing this, I'm quite sure the normal discussion of the thread will return.

This certainly is a lot more constructive then people saying how they won't play whatever fighting game because it has lolis in or whatever, which isn't a wrong reason not to play a game, but geez it gets pretty old and annoying seeing it all the time.

[Xenozip.]

ChinoHana posted a new CV for v1.01 on u2be: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvjvpY7MywQ

[D'Nyc3]

chinoHana also has new match videos up

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=ChinoHana&p=r

About the combo video: Yea it was OK at best

[Master Chibi]

I sometimes get the impression that you want this game to be no more than a combination of games you have already played.

That's what it's felt like from day one buddy.

I can't find myself getting hype over this game anymore. Akatsuki is far more enjoyable then this, sorry.

[chopa]

btw folks what are you all using to play this (keyboard, pad, stick, etc)?
anyone used a hrap3?
thanks
those matchvids rocked

[sonicspear64]

^uh... keyboard, Dualshock 1 pad, and T5 stick.

[D'Nyc3]

btw folks what are you all using to play this (keyboard, pad, stick, etc)?
anyone used a hrap3?
thanks
those matchvids rocked

Custom Sanwa and Sanwa Ported Namco.

[Hayama Akito]

Pad, the same for all PC fighting games (Melty Blood AC Ver B, Akatsuki, Monster, EFZ Memorial, etc).

[Shinigami Zero]

At present I'm using a Logitech Dual Analog Gaming Pad. It's relatively cheap and its comfortable. Though, I am considering acquiring some sort of adapter so that I might use my Tekken V Arcade Stick.

Are there any comprehensive Rouga or Ren combo videos posted anywhere? Those two are my primary forces of destruction and I could always do to see what others have accomplished.

[JDash247]

HRAP 1vb for me with the pelican converter, man its like butter for any psONE or ps2 stick. Oh, side note, this patch just sucks, im back to playing AB for the moment. I still will play this though.

[pc1x1]

Custom Tailored Joystick for yours truly, HRAP style layout,

I also agree that I am not entirely satisfied with the patch, its not horrid, but certainly wasn't an improvement, it seemed to go backwards more than forwards. Anyhow I am still getting used to it.

I would like to compile and finish Iku's wiki, and all the guides here, into one coherent place, Anyone up for it?

[Zelikazi]

I would like to compile and finish Iku's wiki, and all the guides here, into one coherent place, Anyone up for it?

That sounds like a good idea. I could help.

[LiSyaoran]

New v1.02 Vid http://arom-productions.com/bbbb/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=38&Itemid=30

[bellreisa]

What's Iku's wiki?

[Faight]

It's just easier to type "loli". Plus, people sooner play a game like Arcana Heart because it's fanservice. There's T&A and rape-bait all over the screen in AH. While MB has almost no fanservice or panty-shots or huge-tits, etc.

Of the 21-23 chars in MB only 5 are male. And of the 5 male chars 3 are homo looking. And of the 16-17 females in the game only 2 have any tits to speak of and none of them have any kind of ass whatsoever.

So yeah, MB may not be totally a "loli-game", but it sure is pretty damn girly.

MB = why are you playing the girl that's fully clothed, has not tits or ass, and sounds like a raging bitch that doesn't put out?
AH = Whoa that chick has huge tits and she's all up on that little girl in the swimsuit!

You know, I was really starting to like MB, but due to the lack of titties I think I'm going to have to boycott it. Wasn't this shit based on hentai anyways? How far we fall.

AH only has two girls with tits, which makes me cry. If I had my way all the girls would have bigguns. And big guns too. Guns are cool.

BBB makes me cry right now, but hopefully they'll work out the kinks and bring in some larger breasted girls. I mean fix the game so it doesn't suck. Both hopefully.

[pc1x1]

Well my aim is here, whomever want to help contact me towards the end of the week, and well compile everything we know. Thanks!

[Xenozip.]

What's Iku's wiki?

PISHI

[bellreisa]

The BBB wiki is a mess, I've been thinking about taking it down for a while now.

[Xenozip.]

The BBB wiki is a mess, I've been thinking about taking it down for a while now. Maybe just strip it down to an empty shell so that people get off their lazy asses and update it with current info.

[pc1x1]

Maybe just strip it down to an empty shell so that people get off their lazy asses and update it with current info.

Thats what I mean, I plan on working on that, however I need help obviously

[Tolki]

To come back to the main subject (BBB 1.02) :

Sanzou's trap (http://arom-productions.com/bbbb/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30)


Very cruel, but damn so efficient and cool ... Soooo ... 10.000 DAMAGES COMBOS REACHED. F**** trap at okizeme :X

The ONLY way to escape : Do NOT guard the 214B at wake up :rofl:


PS : I play on Hori Customed Fighting stick cubes (I have 2 of them, now both with PS2 out, and completly customed :P)

[4649]

To come back to the main subject (BBB 1.02) :

Sanzou's trap (http://arom-productions.com/bbbb/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30)


Very cruel, but damn so efficient and cool ... Soooo ... 10.000 DAMAGES COMBOS REACHED. F**** trap at okizeme :X

The ONLY way to escape : Do NOT guard the 214B at wake up :rofl:


PS : I play on Hori Customed Fighting stick cubes (I have 2 of them, now both with PS2 out, and completly customed :P)

WOW that's fucked up, i kinda wanna play Sanzou instead of Ren now. :rofl:

[Master Chibi]

Someone tell me Senna's BnB, I got hella bored of Agito.

[4649]

Someone tell me Senna's BnB, I got hella bored of Agito.

2ABC,6A, j.A(, BC depending on char)CC, 5ABC, 623C - from wiki

[MAGUS1234]

senna- a,b,214c214c (dash forward) b,c 623c (dash forward) b,c 214c 236c, otg into whatever you want(usually) 2b 63214c, j abcc

[FullMetalRoss]

To come back to the main subject (BBB 1.02) :

Sanzou's trap (http://arom-productions.com/bbbb/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30)


Very cruel, but damn so efficient and cool ... Soooo ... 10.000 DAMAGES COMBOS REACHED. F**** trap at okizeme :X

The ONLY way to escape : Do NOT guard the 214B at wake up :rofl:


PS : I play on Hori Customed Fighting stick cubes (I have 2 of them, now both with PS2 out, and completly customed :P)

Umm you are sorta wrong it was possible to easily combo off the 22h in 1.01, it was actually cancelable into his command run, which you could then quickly cancel and go into cr.a... And then loop.

[MAGUS1234]

^^ ya the sanzo "loops" and unblockable setups are hella old

[ORV]

Where can I find the new patch?

[Xenozip.]

From: http://aja-games.com/nrf.htm

[kane_warhead]

I can't download the patches

[DropGate]

http://bbb.mizuumi.net/stuff

[kane_warhead]

http://bbb.mizuumi.net/stuff

Thanks...

I have a question... On the link the xenozip gave. There's a BBB version 1.03.

I tried dl it, but it failed.

So uhmm is anybody playing 1.03 yet?

[Warpticon]

Just tested it out. fixed a couple of screwups from 1.02. still 5 bar meter, H attacks still drain P-gauge. At least with sanzou the commands are back to normal. Not so certain about the command interpreter.

[4649]

1.03 is out already? goddamn that was fast. ._.

[Xenozip.]

http://bbb.mizuumi.net/stuff

1.03 is mirrored here now.

Also, this patch doesn't overwrite the old .exe file. It comes with BBB3.exe but I dunno what it's for. It doesn't work on my system.

[DropGate]

1.03 is mirrored here now.

Also, this patch doesn't overwrite the old .exe file. It comes with BBB3.exe but I dunno what it's for. It doesn't work on my system.

Yeah I can watch the op but other than that I don't know what to do with it o.o

[Warpticon]

no idea what BBB3.exe does, but ignore it.

[Tolki]

^^ ya the sanzo "loops" and unblockable setups are hella old

Indeed.

But now, it's kinda easier to combo on, or at least, I find so :wonder:


(Yeah yeah, Hammer Fall during Slide Edge worked already, but timing was much harder and you had to take back with 2L ... So at this time, it wasn't damaging - usefull enough to become a real part of Sanzou gameplay. Now ... You can say "Omae wa mo shinderu" when you've knocked the opponent down >.< )


I dl 1.03, and I news it on BBBB (And of course, I'll also upload it on my own server).

The topic about 1.02 -> 1.03 global changes : http://arom-productions.com/bbbb/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32

[MAGUS1234]

Ahh thanks man! ^^

So Netbattle might be in the future huh? That could be cool(if fierces dont take meter!)

btw burais bbb does 8k O.o

[Tolki]

Ahh thanks man! ^^

So Netbattle might be in the future huh? That could be cool(if fierces dont take meter!)

You're welcome xD

But you'd rather thx Saru Kada, HE is the one that traducted the note given with the game :P



PS : New forum skin soon for BBBB ^_^

PPS : I'm preparing BBB / GG arcade Sticks :P One with Faust / Heita (Green & Violet Stick, green buttons) and one with Sanzou / Potemkin (Black and white, Black and white Sanwa buttons. Black stick ball.) :)

[FullMetalRoss]

Hmm I'll have to check this out. It'd be nice of the unblockables were boost cancelable, cause right now they don't do enough damage to make it worth it imo. This game has potential but needs some help!

[MAGUS1234]

Burai combos- non meter
cmd grab xx 63214c 2b4a6a63214b 2b4a6a63214b 7900(mid screen only/kinda make it in the corner sometimes)
With meter
cmd grab xx 63214c 2b4a6a4c(b) xx 214d a6a 63214b 8200+ (mid screen preferably)

for his bnb just do the 63214b sequence after attacks

BBB combo
cmd grab xx 63214c 2b4a6a 63214b a6a 236d 236d 10,000+ (death combo )

Welcome back Burai :)

k its not a cmd grab(thank god) but the 623 a move

[Ceirnian]

How are you cancelling the 63214c in time to even start the combo up again? Also who are you doing those combos against? Did you sacrifice any life to up your damage? Until I figure out those things I'm kind of skeptical about that damage output.

[MAGUS1234]

Huh wierd, must of sacrificed life to do the damage, didnt know y9ou can do that

[Ceirnian]

Yeah if you hold charge and rotate the joystick in circles your life will go down and the little number under your life will go up. From what I understand it starts at 100 (100% damage, aka normal) and each point adds a percent to a max of 200 (double damage).

[DropGate]

Yeah I tested these out, they still do some nice damage but that 100% you gave needs a power up to be real. I haven't tested what level you need to make it 100% but I'm sure no more than 140. Also after the command grab, input 63214 when Burai connects the last hit to buffer it and when the person is in the air hit C.

[Ceirnian]

Ahh I see, has to be a wallbounce.

[edit to add combos]

Burai Corner (parenthesis = optional jumpin start)

Corner-(j.b j.c a) b 4a 6a c-b 2b 4a 6a 214d 2b 4a 6a 63214b- (4151) 3948 on Rouga 1 bar.

Anywhere- (j.c a) b 4a 6a 623c 64321b 4a 6a 64321b- (3829) 3661 on Rouga 0 bar.

Will add 2 heita combos I use later on, gotta go.

[DropGate]

Oh after his 63214C, hell I just b-cancel it.

[Tolki]

Crap, Burai still is A or S ranked ... Couldn't they make hime at a normal level ? He has ground overheads, deadly damages, easy combos, and style ... :arazz:


Anyway, I found lots of new things with Sanzou, you should check BBBB :rofl:

[Bahamutt_zero]

I make a new senna movie ^^

I Hope you like ^^'

Senna Kyoudou vol.2 (BigBang Beat 1.02 and 1.03)

download: http://files.filefront.com/Senna+Kyoudou+vol2mkv/;8503041;/fileinfo.html

YouTube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=KSRT9nVcAeM

[Tolki]

Cool combos but ... Not very deadly XD


I've updated a replay rar on BBBB : http://arom-productions.com/bbbb/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_details&gid=5&Itemid=38


A lot of interesting VS's ^_^

[Xenozip.]

repost
[7/9-03:47] <ikusat> boost scaling is 100% 85% 70% 55% 40% for 1 boost, 2 boost etc
That reminds me. Everyone who does a lot of boost cancels in their combos/videos should really really be paying attention to the above quoted text.

If you're using 3 boosts or more in a combo, your combo fucking sucks.

[Bahamutt_zero]

I make a "combo exhibition", not a "combo VS movie" ^^
The damage of combos no matter in a combo video

IMO --> Combo movie is something that you must show difficult things and montly beatiful combos , you ever going to see on a VS for example, simple combos in video combo sucks a lot.
BTW ... the game has several sources that i can use to make good or even great combos, so I just used because I am able to do it LOL

Thanks ^^

[Hayama Akito]

1.04 released (http://aja-games.com/nrf.htm)

[Atb_555]

Lol I havent even had time to try out 1.02

[PersonaDark]

Damnit, they still haven't increased the charge speed. And using boost to increase it seems to give less meter now.

I'm giving the patch more chances, but so far it seems like it was just to fix things like the Daigo and Voice glitches.

[Hatred Edge]

I installed winRAR. downloaded ver 103 and ver 104. Yet all I get is the main menu "press any button" the screen goes black and says story,vs,vs hum,training, exit. I can't play the game. Is it because I'm using a laptop?

[Master Chibi]

Hey guys, Senna figure!

http://www.dannychoo.com/slide/eng/wonfes/16058/photo/Anime+Manga+Figures/

[Kix]

Hey guys, Senna figure!

http://www.dannychoo.com/slide/eng/wonfes/16058/photo/Anime+Manga+Figures/

I am kind of disappointed... don't like a few things about it.

[MAGUS1234]

short skirt and happy face FTL :(

[Warpticon]

I love Senna's gloves.

Yay for perpetual retarded meter.

[Farpenoodle]

So I finally got round to playing around with Kunagi in practice mode.

I came up with this.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2GmZtAQLieo

[Xenozip.]

So I finally got round to playing around with Kunagi in practice mode.

I came up with this.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2GmZtAQLieo Hehe, I see they didn't change much.

Try some of these http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=600B36022D50AB4E

[ShikislashSlash]

whats the differences ins ver 1.04

[pc1x1]

whats the differences ins ver 1.04

www.bigbangbeatbase.com

[ShikislashSlash]

thanks very much pc1x1

not sure if they changed kunagi's 5c twirly launcher in 1.03 because i dont think i even play that patch but i 1.04 they nerfed that!!!!!!!!!

[H-F Blade]

After not having played this game for a while, I played 1.04 with a friend of mine last night. I'm unaware of all the changes but the increased startup time for a P-charge and the slower P-charging just does NOT click with us. :\ Why exactly did they change that? Also, the movelists seem out of date.

[Xenozip.]

They are out of date.

And, I believe they adjusted the p-charge functions to give incentive to burn b-stock. Using 22P doesn't fill much p-meter but it's special cancelable so you can chain two in a row or immediately cancel it into [P] or a special move.

[Luigi-Bo 87]

Just played 1st impression. This game seems pretty cool. I need a ps2 converter to get the most out of it though. I played as the chick with the sword, she was dope. The whole cancel thing reminds me of Arcana. I was not ready for that boss music though.:rofl: BADASS!

[CarreauOverkill]

1.05 out (http://aja-games.com/nrf.htm)

[Luigi-Bo 87]

1.05 out (http://aja-games.com/nrf.htm)

AWWWWWW! I just ogt 1st impression.:annoy: Please tell me that the upgrades are just patches since I cant read anything on that page.

[bellreisa]

lol unblockables jesus christ are you kidding me

[Master Chibi]

lol unblockables jesus christ are you kidding me

whats this?

[bellreisa]

Do 6C with Rouga or Heita.

Also lol @ the readme which says 1.04 but is version 1.05 :V

[CarreauOverkill]

Rouga's 6C is funny on wake-up.

Here are a few things I've posted;


Rouga's cross-up glitch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6-2zlr-jR0)

Something people might've missed with Rouga. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9DYESTf-ns)

These are 1.05 compatible.

[sonicspear64]

WTF! I come back after weeks to know that 1.05 is out?! The last patch I had was 1.03!

[FullMetalRoss]

eww that second combo did tonssssss you prolly could have gotten decent out of it for just one meter. Rouga does so much damage.

is shoot safe on block? I don't think so but maybe if it is than that cross up shit is pretty buff.

[hamelkarl]

I know that this game will get a lots better with the time, but I also know that this game will not stay free forever. I really enjoy this game! Do someone know how to play kaillera with a cps3? I really want to try 3rd strike on it! :wgrin:

[CarreauOverkill]

I know that this game will get a lots better with the time, but I also know that this game will not stay free forever. I really enjoy this game! Do someone know how to play kaillera with a cps3? I really want to try 3rd strike on it! :wgrin:

We hope it gets better, it's not free, wrong place to ask.

[Shinigami Zero]

Somehow I just knew that by the time I came back around to thinking about picking up the game - a new patch would be out.

The verdict?

[Luigi-Bo 87]

Is the patch on the site or something?

[CarreauOverkill]

The verdict?

Each patch, they funk something up and fix something else. Daigo got the nerfstick this time, Senna got made better... Errh, just read yourself;

1.05 changes (http://arom-productions.com/bbbb/forum/viewtopic.php?t=65)

[pc1x1]

Each patch, they funk something up and fix something else. Daigo got the nerfstick this time, Senna got made better... Errh, just read yourself;

1.05 changes (http://arom-productions.com/bbbb/forum/viewtopic.php?t=65)

Well hopefully by 1.10 things will be balanced, lolz.

[CarreauOverkill]

Well hopefully by 1.10 things will be balanced, lolz.

Hahaha. You wish! Hopefully by 1.10 there will be netplay, too. Hahahahah.

[Tolki]

I think thar nerfing Daigo was good (really, he was fucking good), but not nerfing Rouga and giving even more power to Senna ... OMG ...

[CarreauOverkill]

Rouga actually got a damage nerf! At least M-napalm to B-napalm does less.

[Luigi-Bo 87]

How do you install the patch?

[Luigi-Bo 87]

nevamind i'm just slow. first thing i noticed is 5 stocks instead of 9. gonna play to see what else is up.

[hold dat]

just got the game..pretty cool

i like daigo, interesting character. the game sort of reminds me of a cross between gg/ah

do nyou extract the files in the patch updates

[Luigi-Bo 87]

yea. replace the original files with the new stuff.

[hold dat]

yea. replace the original files with the new stuff.

thank you sir...i'll be testing this out some more

[Luigi-Bo 87]

Senna and boxer dude = win.

[CarreauOverkill]

1.06 (http://aja-games.com/nrf.htm)

'nuff said.

[Atb_555]

But what's this update saying now :)

[CarreauOverkill]

I said 'nuff said! This discussion is over! Do not press further!

No, but in all seriousness, we're waiting BBBB's resident wapanese translator person to translate the changelog. Here's what we have so far;

Ren: 236+L/M/H can be hit with 623+H again.
Daigo: BBB damage upped, you can no longer cancel 623B to 623C

Should probably lurk on the BBBB forums to find more as soon as possible. ^_^ </shameless advertising>

[Tolki]

Here it comes : http://arom-productions.com/bbbb/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=55&Itemid=2

[Kayin]

Wow, there were actually a few buffs in there. :rofl:

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Ill never understand why people like this game.

[Master Chibi]

Ill never understand why people like this game.

I can't figure out how the hype for this game was huge for like a WEEK at Evo East, and then poof, we never touched the damn game again :rofl:.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

I remember hearing about that. Priceless

[Hayama Akito]

This game is good, but it was screwed with the patches...

But oh well, maybe that "1st Impression" got some sense for wait for a sequel.

[Nagi]

Game is still solid.

[Farpenoodle]

I thought there were mainly a few balance issues in 1.01 and they didn't really need to touch it much after that.

Then they gave it a lobotomy. But to be fair I think the game has potential if they can sort these latest patches out.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Game is still solid.

How is this game solid? Please explain it to me because EVERYONE i know including myself who has played this game already knows that its garbage.

[PersonaDark]

As was said, the game was fun as hell in 1.01. There were some minor beefs, but it played like a evolved and faster version of the Art of Fighting series, and actually had some interesting ideas that had potiential after a bit of tweaking. It even had a boxer that wasn't stereotypical and utter shit(Burai) and a character with an partner that wasn't brokesauce. (The Twins) Plus Senna was just fun as hell.

The patches however, fucked everything up, and each one refuses to fix the main two problem I have with it now: Returning the stamina meter to it's orginal charge speed and taking out that stupid Hold forward + hard attack to do a specific move, which wrecked my execution for certain moves or combos. There's some other annoying shit like no air throws, but those are the worst ones.

If the team would get it's head out of it's ass, this game would reach the potiential it had to be a great fighter.

[CarreauOverkill]

Returning the stamina meter to it's orginal charge speed

It was changed so that you will have more incentive to Extend Charge and burn stock (22P). Nobody does this because they're so shit scared of "losing" things. HP and stock are meant to be used more than hogged. Normal charging should be a valid way of getting P-Gauge but -not- something to do inbetween loops.


Taking out that stupid Hold forward + hard attack to do a specific move, which wrecked my execution for certain moves or combos.

These are an awesome addition, spicing up the wake- and mix-up game of the cast as well as serving as a tool against turtling. Learn to press button, no need to whine.


There's some other annoying shit like no air throws, but those are the worst ones.

I admit that the air game is a little lacking, but it doesn't really give me a headache as jumping is for Kunagis.

l2p, I find most of the stuff the patches brought to be extremely fun. Maybe things aren't as godlike as they were, but they're fun nonetheless.

[Alzarath]

Hey, so, where would I order this game from? Looks nice~

[MiyagiShin X]

I can't figure out how the hype for this game was huge for like a WEEK at Evo East, and then poof, we never touched the damn game again :rofl:.

I think cause it was something new and we were all still learning it. Its not suprising to me. Everyone i know including u chibi was hyped for a week.

How is this game solid? Please explain it to me because EVERYONE i know including myself who has played this game already knows that its garbage.

Yes we all figured out just how silly this game is. Im still in awe that this thread is alive. Maybe ill get hype when "BBB Second Coming" comes out.

[4649]

well that confirms it, i'm the only person who still likes it ;_;

[pc1x1]

I still like it and play it, but the new updates, didn't really help the game : /

[MiyagiShin X]

well that confirms it, i'm the only person who still likes it ;_;

Sorry Rez but with Arcana Heart out now and other games :wonder:, i just cant see myself ever touching this again unless they add or do alot more with it. I actually cant really give any suggestions im just goona go play better games lol :rofl:

Edit- The Updates truly did nothing.

[Master Chibi]

I don't hate the game, but like I've got no hype for it at all.

[Tolki]

Big Bang Beat Base down, sorry for the users. I'll fiw that as soon as I'll have some time ... Really sorry.


(PS : To me, BBB is much better now than in 1.06, it became more technical while staying very fun ... You just have to take care of your P bar, and that'll be good enough ^^ And I think the new charging IS good, 'cause it makes "Full bar" combos useless, 'cause you're in deep sh*ù after :P)

(PPS : And if I like rather BBB than AH, it's mostly due to the chars ... I find ALL BBB chars cool, when I find all of them crappy in AH -___-)

[XAQshinor]

well that confirms it, i'm the only person who still likes it ;_;

nah i still like/play bbb.

[NegroNinja]

I kinda got lost in all the upgrading, I imagine if it comes out for Arcade of console then I'll get back into it though..at least then there'll be a scene I can take part in.

[Warpticon]

I'd play the game if the new patches hadn't sucked so much interest out of it and just made it a headache in so many ways.

[Luigi-Bo 87]

What's so different? I went straight to 1.5 so help me out.

[Warpticon]

the P-meter usage and changed moves for my preferred characters really throw me off.

[Luigi-Bo 87]

Hmm. So is Senna better or worse? She's my main (I did sword chicks).

[Spooty Whiteboy]

What's so different? I went straight to 1.5 so help me out.

You should be playing 1.6. Look on the last page for the link.

[Farpenoodle]

I think the P-meter changes aren't so bad now really. But the game still feels really "beta" right now. I'll probably pick it back up at some point though. I really enjoyed 1.01.

[MiyagiShin X]

I think thats my issue is that the game feels and plays like a beta testing game. I need something more to really sway me toward playing this game more.

[dobiqwolf]

I think the P-meter changes aren't so bad now really. But the game still feels really "beta" right now. I'll probably pick it back up at some point though. I really enjoyed 1.01.
this is funny, for me i jumped from 1.01 to 1.05, I didnt play seriously 1.01 bc it was playing like a beta, 9B gauges ect.. games felt like unfinish, 1.05 was like whoa they made it look like a real game and took away all the siliness.
This is what i think of the game, not a fact. I found the game really technik eg: proper timing for combos, Pgauge consuption and B gauge as well.

[Tolki]

Big Bang Beat Base misc news :

1 : A player Finder, by Tru
2 : A gameplay faq, by Tolki
3 : A global faq, by Tolki

Enjoy :

http://arom-productions.com/bbbb/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=57&Itemid=1


Post Scriptum : To the players who points out game balance ... The further we play, the most we see it IS balanced ... And the biggest combos, with the ULTIMATE GOD tier are 60% AND you can't do anything than charging for 10 minutes after ... Couls you say me what's broken ? Potemkin 632146H on Chipp is 10000000000 more broken :sweat:

[CarreauOverkill]

And the biggest combos, with the ULTIMATE GOD tier are 60%

Sorry, Tolki. Nothing personal...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94yKbmlkG2s

But I went and broke Rouga. 9264 dmg off 2L.

[Spooty Whiteboy]

Sorry, Tolki. Nothing personal...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94yKbmlkG2s

But I went and broke Rouga. 9264 dmg off 2L.

Except that combo isn't practical. 5 gauges, corner only, must have used 3 taunts prior.

[CarreauOverkill]

Of course it isn't.

There are several 10k+ combos, that clip was made mostly to showcase 214L to 5A link and the napalm finisher being usable mid-combo.

But Tolki said god tier only does 60% damage so I decided to post it up here too.

Khee. Burai does 60% damage without stocks.

[Atb_555]

^ which combo is that?

[CarreauOverkill]

Burai or Rouga?

Burai - 01 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gJEODsx2gQ) 02 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa-xzS-J1_w)

Though this variation is better for 02.
6L 3L 623H 5L 6L 623H 623M
-> 41236L 4L 6L 41236M 4L 623H 623M

[Atb_555]

Sorry Burai

Thanks :tup:

[Tolki]

Yep, indeed, there are 10k's combos with Rouga ... As there are stun combos with Potem on Chipp in GGXXAC :P


Anyway, I think the game can now be considered as "balanced", maybe Rouga excepted >.<

[CarreauOverkill]

There are a few nuances (Rouga and Burai are very good) but overall even Heita is mid-tier.

This game is very balanced, I only wish it had more overheads since e.g. with Agito you have to look out for his throw, j. C and j. 2C. The rest of the time you can crouchblock in a corner.

And Rouga getting a damage or speed nerf would be sweet. (And I say this as a Rouga player)

[Kyokugen]

How the shit do you get this game? Maybe there'd be more buzz and feedback if the download link was hidden among foreign languages.


Anybody got a clear link for download? Or one with pics/movelists of the characters? That'd be super.

Thanks in advance.

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

You can BUY the game.....

[Kyokugen]

Oh, it's for sale? I was thinking it was free.

Bummer. Nice AV btw. Delga is the man-dragon.

[CarreauOverkill]

There's a demo somewhere...

I suggest acquiring the game and if you like it, buy it. That's what I did.

[Tolki]

Some cool combos with Sanzou : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3e42v_bbb-sanzou-little-cm-3-combos_videogames

[Hyperhal]

<img src="ff7.jpg" alt="Cloyd and Tifa from Final Fantasy 7">

[Hyperhal]

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>Final Fantasy 7</title>
</head>
<h1 align="center"><u>Final Fantasy 7</u></h1>

<body>
<img src="ff7.jpg" alt="Cloyd and Tifa from Final Fantasy 7">
</body>
</html>

[kisame org]

I was wondering, could this game be put on psp?

[HeartNana]

Have they released any new patches that makes the game not suck, or does it still have only sucky patches?

[Farpenoodle]

Theyre probably working on 2nd impression now or some such shit.

Lets hope when that comes around they dont try to drastically alter its system mid patches.

[bellreisa]

Give me a reason not to take the wiki down plz

[HeartNana]

The worst part is how much i hyped this game up and tried to get people to play it only for them to make these crappy patches. Oh well. Nobody wanted to play my brokesauce Kunagi anyways. =P

[Farpenoodle]

I know. I did the same thing too. :(

[Xenozip.]

Give me a reason not to take the wiki down plz

I think some one from bigbangbeatbase.com should just transcribe anything of value from the wiki before you close it.

[LiSyaoran]

New VID =/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u_QMBH5Eo4

[4649]

New VID =/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u_QMBH5Eo4

woah, crazy stuff, good work sir :D
someone rep this dude

[LiSyaoran]

woah, crazy stuff, good work sir :D
someone rep this dude
Thnx man =)

[bellreisa]

I think some one from bigbangbeatbase.com should just transcribe anything of value from the wiki before you close it.

Last I checked the wiki was way behind since nobody's updated it since around the first or second patch

[Angelic Diablo]

Have there been any indications of a release on consoles? I can't stand playing fighting games on PC.

[theREALbaku]

has anyone gotten the real arcade pro from hori to work with this game? if so please tell me how. and if not, has anyone gotten a ps2 controller to work with D-pad as oppose to analog? thanks

[LiSyaoran]

Have there been any indications of a release on consoles? I can't stand playing fighting games on PC.
I will never happen. Sense that other company (forgot name) started owning it, and its shit now, BBBB is dead, I doubt there even going to come out with a v1.07

[Lackadaisical]

To those that have the game: Is the audio for the game easily accessible from the disc? Er, I mean, is it easily extracted? Thanks.

[LiSyaoran]

Disc xD What Disc

[Badguy00]

i still like this game. i think the patches are workin out great now. although i think rouga is far too overpowered. he needs to be toned down. aside from that its a really fun game.

[Turbovec]

I almost got back into this game, then I saw a match with Burai doing a 75% damage combo with 1 stock. At that point I promptly sent my thoughts into hell, a place where this game deserves to go.

[digimonemporer]

Dude Heart Nana made me never want to play BBB again...LMAO!

[FullMetalRoss]

Good Combos Lisyoran.. The first burai combo was the only one that was really "new" to me, but I try to stay sort of up on the game. Its too bad the game is now really really boring to play thanks to increase special guage charge and some other stuff, and the fact that in trying to balance the combo system they made it more borked with easier combos. Oh well.

Edit: Oh and from a combo video stand point, its really not neccesary to end the combo with super into super super every time.... gets kind of old. In the Daigo combo you could have just done more of his charge double kicks or something...

[LiSyaoran]

Good Combos LiSyoran.. The first burai combo was the only one that was really "new" to me, but I try to stay sort of up on the game. Its too bad the game is now really really boring to play thanks to increase special gauge charge and some other stuff, and the fact that in trying to balance the combo system they made it more borked with easier combos. Oh well.

Edit: Oh and from a combo video stand point, its really not necessary to end the combo with super into super super every time.... gets kind of old. In the Daigo combo you could have just done more of his charge double kicks or something...
Well, thats not really the point of weather it gets old or not, just damage for MOST of the combos...
The videos I've made in the past have been more editing then just combos, eh =/
Anyway, I've been waiting for v1.07 for ever, I guess its not goin to happen.

[Farpenoodle]

Maybe they're making another patch that will make the game even less fun to play and more unintentionally broke than before. :rofl:

[Mixah]

where do i get the update to 1.06??? i have 1.03

[LiSyaoran]

where do i get the update to 1.06??? i have 1.03
http://aja-games.com/nrf.htm

[Hayama Akito]

Seems like mizuumi.net kills the B3 wiki... and Akatsuki, EFZ and others wiki are still alive, is B3 really THAT unpopular now? =(

As far as i know, the original group who made the game (NRF) got a internal discussion and split into two groups, the original B3 team is now called Aja Games and i remember read in 2ch that they are now not interested in the game and want to make his own (fighting...?) game in 2008...

B3 is even abandoned by his own creators, sad but true.

[LiSyaoran]

BBB has the potential of being a good game. It just needs some work... and its not getting it...

[Warpticon]

BBB has the potential of being a good game. It just needs some work... and its not getting it...

Exactly. Looks like the best thing that can happen to BBB now is mugen.

[bellreisa]

Seems like mizuumi.net kills the B3 wiki... and Akatsuki, EFZ and others wiki are still alive, is B3 really THAT unpopular now? =(

As far as i know, the original group who made the game (NRF) got a internal discussion and split into two groups, the original B3 team is now called Aja Games and i remember read in 2ch that they are now not interested in the game and want to make his own (fighting...?) game in 2008...

B3 is even abandoned by his own creators, sad but true.

Nobody worked on the wiki since 1.01. It was obvious nobody was going to, either. The EFZ wiki is new, I don't expect it to get any work done but I think it has more of a right to be there than BBB does (there was no EFZ wiki before, it was added like a week ago)

I'm surprised anyone even noticed the wiki was gone, none of the information on it was even close to relevant

[Hayama Akito]

I'm surprised anyone even noticed the wiki was gone, none of the information on it was even close to relevant

At least you can download the patch from that wiki at good speed, in contrast with Aja Games site.

[Xenozip.]

I was expecting BBB-Base to mirror the wiki or start a new one. The one on mizuumi was outdated and empty anyway.

Well now that it's gone, maybe some one actually will.

As for the patch file you could just mirror it on any file hosting sites and link it from BBB-Base and it'd be faster than aja.

[Mixah]

http://aja-games.com/nrf.htm

Thanks.

[BaSiK_TeKniK]

is it possible someone could hack this game to enable netplay?!

[Mixah]

what's teh gripe with BBB? I really like this game a lot right now. it feels a little repetitive though... kinda rumble fish like.

[Kayin]

what's teh gripe with BBB? I really like this game a lot right now. it feels a little repetitive though... kinda rumble fish like.

In a nutshell: Game was really broken but could have been great with some tweaks, then it gets tweaked but for all the wrong things and just became boring.

[BaSiK_TeKniK]

it needs to be tweaked with dat online play :tup:...

[Mixah]

good enough of a response.

[LiSyaoran]

I also heard some person say how they don't like the was air block is done in BBB which I have yet to understand really.....

[Mixah]

I also heard some person say how they don't like the was air block is done in BBB which I have yet to understand really.....

haha

so burai is the only one that can parry? because... 100% honest... it gives him a HUGE advantage in quite a few matchups, when your opponent has easy to recognize overheads (eg vs. daigo)

[Xenozip.]

Yes, he's the only one.
I also heard some person say how they don't like the was air block is done in BBB which I have yet to understand really.....

You can air block every single fucking move in the game except for everyone's 5B, and Ryouga's 623c anti-air grab. AND there are no air-throws.

You can airblock a sweep. You can airblock a DP. You can airblock supers. Anything.

It's ridiculous, and retarded.

But that's just one of the many many problems this game has. Read some pages back, there's quite a number of things people mentioned.

[Mixah]

Yes, he's the only one.


You can air block every single fucking move in the game except for everyone's 5B, and Ryouga's 623c anti-air grab. AND there are no air-throws.

You can airblock a sweep. You can airblock a DP. You can airblock supers. Anything.

It's ridiculous, and retarded.

But that's just one of the many many problems this game has. Read some pages back, there's quite a number of things people mentioned.

sounds like what was wrong with alpha 2 to an all time extreme. at least there were air throws in that game, and you couldn't block any grounded attack (i don't think)

[Xenozip.]

Actually I'll save you the trouble of looking and just repost a quicklist of shit wrong with the game that they didn't bother fixing.

- There's no wallslam limit
Doesn't matter if there's scaled pushback. Having no limit just leads to retarded loops.

- OTG window too huge.
It's a really stupid combo extender functionality. It's basically like "Do your combo, then do the exact same combo again starting from an OTG hit!". It's just dumb.

- 75% life BnBs
When half the cast can take over half your life with just a bnb or 1-stock bnb there's something wrong.

- Broken Burst system
Some characters have limited cancel rules on moves/supers. The Burst (P-Escape) system makes it possible to burst on reaction to a flash for a guaranteed punish combo. This is ridiculous, I don't care what it costs it's just too fucking unbelievably stupid. You can literally punish either of Kunagi's supers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acFSDWsGXTM) on reaction to the flash and she can't do shit about it, she WILL eat a full combo.

- Airblock anything and everything except 5B?
As outlined in my previous post, being that there's no airthrows and any move in the game can be airblocked other than 5b makes chicken blocking and OSing way too stupid.

- Way unbalanced moveset between cast members.
Burai having a parry and stupid bnbs and damage. Daigo having an instant overhead and 50/50 high/lows. Heita>Super mode. etc etc.

- Damage scaling is wack
Not just for normals and specials either. The damage scaling for boosting is also stupid as hell.

- P-system
The way the P-meter works is really dumb.

- The meter building system.
So unbalanced and out of wack. It's kind of random, but not really. Characters like Kendo can rebuild a full stock just for hitting you with a super, which means she builds back the stock she just fucking used.

- Semi-Infinites
Yup.

[Mixah]

the big dude... i forget his name... but if he blocks for a while, you get like four stock, just because he takes in EVERY SINGLE gem that appears. I thought that was stupid.

I agree with you on a lot of points there xenozip.

[Xenozip.]

the big dude... i forget his name... but if he blocks for a while, you get like four stock, just because he takes in EVERY SINGLE gem that appears. I thought that was stupid.
Sanzou. And yeah I mean it really is unbalanced between the cast. Characters like Kendo and Sanzou get too much for free while others simply don't.

In the case of Sanzou you could argue he really needs it because he's a very handicapped character, but on the other hand I just feel it's a really silly. To me it makes no sense the way they did it.

[Edit]: Funny thing is, a lot of these issues are things that were either present in earlier versions of older games like melty blood (like really early MB:ReAct stuff) or even early Guilty Gear. And some of them are issues that probably those games would have had if the mechanics were different -- meaning I can imagine the games would run into similar stuff. But the thing is, those games did something about it, like fixed it.

The BBB patches have overlooked all the major issues and changed things for the worse, repeatedly. Rather than getting better things just keep getting worse. So clearly whoever's in charge of making these patches is really going in the wrong direction with this shit.

I remember talking about this on IRC not too long ago actually. I basically was thinking how the game could have ended up like a cross between Melty Blood and Guilty Gear if it had gone in that direction. And it probably would have been a really fun game. But as it stands now, it's the exact fucking opposite of fun.

[Mixah]

It's closer to HNK than Guilty Gear to me, just because of the way you make combos.

[Lackadaisical]

Disc xD What Disc
The disc that comes with the Big Bang Beat game? I think it's out of print now, but there are some copies floating around on Yahoo! Japan Auctions. I just snagged me a copy, so I'll find out for myself in a couple of days.

[Gasaraki]

damn, I only just played this the other day and now I found out it's crap =(

[Mixah]

wait... people buy the discs? lollerskates!

[Rick_Son]

Damn, I see this game is in Hiatus mode :lol: Reason why I said that cause seems like no new info on it anymore....

[Xenozip.]

Damn, I see this game is in Hiatus mode :lol: Reason why I said that cause seems like no new info on it anymore....

More like no one plays it anymore, and the game is no longer being patched/developed.

[Hatred Edge]

So this game died out? Shame, I never even got to play and now no one plays it at all..

[Nagi]

i play it now. actually just started back playing it recently

[Chipp Zanuff v5]

Wow, and here all this time i thought NO one played BBB

[Zelikazi]

It's a real tragedy. So much is already there (good music, art, characters, and feel), if they just made the right, simple adjustments it'd be an incredible game. I still enjoy it even with the flaws.

[CyberAkuma]

I would like to think that the reason why the dudes behind this game are lying low at the moment is for one of two feasible reasons.

A) They're hard at work for the sequel/next big update to BBB for PC.

or

B) They're yet ANOTHER Doujin-dev that wants to try their hand at the arcade scene, but are probably willing to wait their turn while the onslaught of fighters will be at its most action-packed from April on down. Either that, or they have yet to get a publisher/distributer to help 'em out (like ShoK, of MONSTER, got Examu to help him out with his own venture).


I would hope that, whatever the case may be, they don't just let this product die. Especially when we seem to be on the verge of the most exciting time to be a fighting game fan, for the first time since, like, 1996.

[Rick_Son]

I hope so man cause this game has alot of potential but just needs a few features to be a little bit updated.

[Farpenoodle]

I too hope this game continues somehow. It has a great set of characters and the overall feel is very good. But in it's current state I don't really want to play it.

[Nagi]

the update did kind of murder it.. it was the only game that every update every character played almost totally different each time.

[Xenozip.]

Yeah, the fact that they changed the characters but not the problems with the system mechanics made people lose interest, sure.

However, as far as I know even the Japanese and Koreans have stopped playing it, so I really think interest in it has been lost due to the problems with the gameplay more-so than the patches (which didn't fix the gameplay).

[LiSyaoran]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS4oTCO5lzA

Hopefully this is the last vid I make for this game. Unless a Miracle happens and they come out with v1.07

[CarreauOverkill]

Sweet, LiSyaoran. Even if the game is dead. :D

The website says they'd be working on 2nd Impression. Maybe it'll be cooler.

[LiSyaoran]

Sweet, LiSyaoran. Even if the game is dead. :D

The website says they'd be working on 2nd Impression. Maybe it'll be cooler.
We can only hope :woot:

[Hayama Akito]

Sweet, LiSyaoran. Even if the game is dead. :D

The website says they'd be working on 2nd Impression. Maybe it'll be cooler.

They never say that they are working on 2nd Impression, they say that the Aja Games group is working on a "new game for 2008" but to be honest that thing was posted at least 8 months ago and the official site is almost dead.

If i remember, this game dies because the official group (NRF) got an internal fight and split, thats why Aja Games born and NRF delete the old official site.

[shayde_psych_road]

When I went to AKon 19 at the end of May, they were selling fresh copies of the game... Even had a mini ffa tourney... :tup:

[SSJ_Sonikku]

I still play this game whenever I can. It is not a bad game overall. However, I still can't figure out how to do all the character's Big Bang Break moves.

[LiSyaoran]

It's a real tragedy. So much is already there (good music, art, characters, and feel), if they just made the right, simple adjustments it'd be an incredible game. I still enjoy it even with the flaws.
I'd disagree with the good music part. But everything else I agree with.

[Farpenoodle]

I thought the music fit really well.

[AlterGenesis]

The game was great when it first came, I thought it had a lot of potential. As people have stated the patches didn't really fix any of the original problems and the game became more and more brokesauce.