"Supernatural" on the CW

[Geese Pants]

Yeah.......it was okay.

[ChairHome]

Finally caught up on the latest two eps. Ghostfacers! That was awesome. The last one was okay... I still love this show.

[Geese Pants]

Damn.........that was a good episode.

Bella.....I mean Abby got what was coming to her!!!! The Winchesters finally got one up on that chick.........too bad her contract was up. Also, I had an feeling that Lilith was the contract holder.


BILLY DRAGO!!!!!

[Vejita_x]

gtfo >:o

"i have scotch"

well hello :D

[Lv.32 Z-Ism Rose]

Ok, what happened?!?!? Our TV station seemed to have audio problems, and for 75% of the epsiode, all you could hear was music and background sounds--no speech!! ARgh!! It looked like a great episode, though. All I really got to hear about was Bella's background. What was the deal with the crazy doc, anyways?

[Geese Pants]

Ok, what happened?!?!? Our TV station seemed to have audio problems, and for 75% of the epsiode, all you could hear was music and background sounds--no speech!! ARgh!! It looked like a great episode, though. All I really got to hear about was Bella's background. What was the deal with the crazy doc, anyways?

The doc......BILLY DRAGO.......was using victims random body parts and was using them to keep himself alive for over 100 years.

[ChairHome]

Great episode. I knew it was going to be Lillith, too. I wasn't expecting Bella to get taken out like that though.

[TS]

Season finale next week bitches!!

Is it coming back for another season? Or this will be the end of the show?

Even if it is, I feel chances are pretty good it will continue with a comic book/movie/whatever.

[4Play]

Bella got what she deserved. Fuck that bitch.

[Million]

I've missed quite a bit of this season but this finale is good stuff. I'll make sure to avoid spoiler commentary for those in other time zones (*sorry 'bout the Smallville thing tonight, heh. I'm usually much more careful about that sort of thing)

I'll just say that once again the eye-candy on this show is ridiculous. Bella and the blonde demon had me at hello. They are so perfect....that blonde demon broad in particular looks like a wild good time....like the classic "Naughty Girl" that is truly down for whatever all to please you. She always has this naughty, nasty look on her face. I love it.

[ShinRekka]

Shit was pretty great imo and it left in a cliffhanger as I thought it would. Can't f'in wait for next season!

This show needs more love.....so underrated.

[Geese Pants]

I'll just say that once again the eye-candy on this show is ridiculous. Bella and the blonde demon had me at hello. They are so perfect....that blonde demon broad in particular looks like a wild good time....like the classic "Naughty Girl" that is truly down for whatever all to please you. She always has this naughty, nasty look on her face. I love it.

Like I said...............Supernatural has the HOTTEST chicks bar none. The hotness on that show is just staggering.

I can't wait for next season..........

[Lv.32 Z-Ism Rose]

Can someone tell me what the fuck happened during the first 15 minutes of the show? Fucking CW here in Nashville cut out thru most of Smallville and the first 15 or so of SN. Fuckers.... How did they get teh knife anyways?

And as what to what happened at the end. SOoooooo fucked up. Again, I was surprised they would show that on TV.... The finale is definitely as tense as the one for the first season...

[Wellman]

^
First fifteen minutes was the planning stages I think, Dean, Sam and Old guy whose name I forgot were trying to figure out how to find and take out Lilith, Dean didn't want them to rush into shit because they could all die and Sam wanted to summon Ruby. He did so, she told him he could fuck up Lilith with training and then Dean captured her for the knife.


I personally was sad to see Bella go. Sure she was a thief, liar and traitor but she was hot and had an accent. And I feel pissed that she could have been a recurring dime piece that might show skin. At least there is the chance that we have Ruby (sorta) in the picture.

The show has a lot of hot women, but none stay for that long.

I sort of fucked up having to help a relative all while it was going on. So I missed what happened in small bits. I saw most of the Invisible hellhound shred Dean's innards all over the floor and Lilith try that white flash attack that wiped out the police station on Sam. But did Sam in anyway prepare for it or did he really just get blasted get up and punk her away?

Although hell reminded me way to much of Spawn's version of hell with the chains.



Either way, can't wait for the next season, one of the best shows on TV period. And I think one of the most violent as well.

[RockBogart]

yeah......hell sucks

[uknowuwishuwereme]

Sigh, I freaking totally forgot about this crap, will the full episode be on the official website tomorrow?

[4Play]

Wow, amazing episode. Fucking brutal.

Love this show.

[Septimus Prime]

That was totally sweet, except for a small part of the ending.

I wonder how Sam parried Lilith's flash attack. She just kind of did it, and then the CW cut to 6 fucking minutes of commercials, and then when the show came back, Lilith just lost her white eyes. Weird and very anticlimactic.

[uknowuwishuwereme]

Wow ok, I just managed to get a hold of the episode, and I must say, I'm extremely disappointed. I seriously thought that this was one of the most bad ass episodes ever until the ending KILLED the whole thing.

Anticlimax + cliff hanger = bullshit.

Season 4 episode 1 has lots of explaining to do. Fuck, I'm pissed.

[ChairHome]

Just a guess, but.

I kind of think that whatever was dormant in Sam protected him from Lillith. Then she was surprised and got the hell out of there. I kind of figured Sam would have to try to get Dean out of Hell next season... And, this is kind of weird, but did Ruby seem hotter after Lillith possessed her?

[Lv.32 Z-Ism Rose]

^^^
Ruby did seem hotter. I guess it is all in the mannerisms and the way she behaved. Normally, she is bitchier and more aloof.

And fuck those 6 minutes of commercials!! Those were 6 looooong as minutes, followed by maybe 2 minutes of the show before cutting away to the end:sad:

[DarthTrey]

^^^
Ruby did seem hotter. I guess it is all in the mannerisms and the way she behaved. Normally, she is bitchier and more aloof.

And fuck those 6 minutes of commercials!! Those were 6 looooong as minutes, followed by maybe 2 minutes of the show before cutting away to the end:sad:

DVR ftw.


And in response yes Ruby was hot as hell when lillith took over. She had that "I'm going to fuck you raw" look. And not the good kind of fuck either.



In response to to the ending of the episode I think it's safe to say we all kind of saw that coming(end death was brutal though, still can't believe what they get away with showing on this show).

Personally I think the first couple episodes of next season will be Sam unleashing his SSJ powers, followed by the rest of the season of him pwning shit up down there.


UUUUGH show is too good.

[Lv.32 Z-Ism Rose]

How do you do the spoiler tags? I ws gonna write more, but didnt want to spoil anything for anyone:sad:

[4Play]

How do you do the spoiler tags? I ws gonna write more, but didnt want to spoil anything for anyone:sad:

Just type:

[ spoiler=type here the subject of your spoiler if you like]*here you type the spoilers*[/spoiler]

^All you do is without the space in front of the first spoiler. Hope that helps.


I think that Lilith took something of Sam's. She waited till Sam was screaming for Dean. It was then that she said "Yessss!" and did the white flash affect. I think she lied when she said Sam had nothing she wanted. She probably took some of Sam's hidden potential power/whatever.

[Lv.32 Z-Ism Rose]

*Well, 4Play wrote what I was going to (thanks for the help with the tags!!) I am one of those that thinks that there is a LOT more to Sam. More than just the being dead and not coming back the same like the beggining of the season had hinted. Just like his demon powers suddenly dissapeared once Yellow Eyes died. They didnt even TOUCH all that stuff that was hinted at in the season finale from last season (where Dean made the deal). I do think at the beginning of the next season, Sam is going to be a LOT colder (kinda like that ep where the trixter was playing with him).

RIP Dean, though....*

[DarthTrey]

Just type:

[ spoiler=type here the subject of your spoiler if you like]*here you type the spoilers*[/spoiler]

^All you do is without the space in front of the first spoiler. Hope that helps.


I think that Lilith took something of Sam's. She waited till Sam was screaming for Dean. It was then that she said "Yessss!" and did the white flash affect. I think she lied when she said Sam had nothing she wanted. She probably took some of Sam's hidden potential power/whatever.

Nah I'm pretty sure she didn't take any of his "hidden potential" which I move we start calling Demon Rage( /praise Akuma) I think she was pushed out by it. She was going to rape his shit and then all of the sudden she lost her powers basically. Not only that earlier in the Episode Ruby stated that if Sam wanted he could essentially wish her out of existence.


I do agree that we will see Sam develop into a more "hardcore" character and I foresee him being a lot more rutheless and many demons getting the beat down. I also predict the next season finale will take place in Hell

[Sano]

Love this show! Kick ass season finale! :woot:

[TS]

Predicting Satsui no Hadou ni mezameta Sam vs Shin Dean next season.

[uknowuwishuwereme]

Coming out on Blu. (http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Warner/TV_on_High-Def/Disc_Announcements/Supernatural_to_Make_Blu-ray_Debut_This_November/1935)

[Septimus Prime]

:u: Fuck yes. Now I'm glad I skipped out on the DVD releases.

[DarthTrey]

:u: Fuck yes. Now I'm glad I skipped out on the DVD releases.

fuck a duck now I have to rebuy season 1 :S

[ChairHome]

The link doesn't say anything about the previous seasons coming out on BR though. But thank goodness that they are releasing Season 3 on Blu Ray. But I noticed it said, "hit teen series" :-(

[DarthTrey]

The link doesn't say anything about the previous seasons coming out on BR though. But thank goodness that they are releasing Season 3 on Blu Ray. But I noticed it said, "hit teen series" :-(

Well hopefully they re-release past seasons.... It would only make sense imo.

[ChairHome]

Maybe eventually, but there are a few shows (Smallville being one of them) that have only the newer seasons on BR right now.

[Wellman]

But I noticed it said, "hit teen series" :-(

Shit, they call this the "hit kids show ages 4-7" and as long as it maintains the same quality story telling, violence and other bits it is all good.

[Geese Pants]

Yeah.......I really hope the CW doesn't have the show tone it down for next season.

[Septimus Prime]

Don't worry. The CW will be bankrupt in another year or two, and season 4 might be the last for Supernatural.

[DarthTrey]

Don't worry. The CW will be bankrupt in another year or two, and season 4 might be the last for Supernatural.

DON'T JINX IT SEP!!!!

Although I agree seems like this, plot wise anyways, should be the final season for Supernatural I don't see any new plot devices that can't be resolved. Sam has to go pwn the shit out of some big bad ass demon and Rescue Dean.

Here's hoping it's not Anti-climatic.

[Septimus Prime]

Eric Kripke has already said that he's planning to end the series soon. It could be this season, or it could be the next, but that's about it.

Meanwhile, Dawn Ostroff is running The CW so terribly (pimping boring shows that no one likes, like Gossip Girl, and making cosmetic changes to Smallville and Supernatural to make them more appealing to teenage girls, among other things) that the network is projected to be bankrupt within about two years. Ostroff is the CEO of the network, who used to run the O! network. Because of this, she's trying to make The CW appeal solely to the "young adult" female demographic. The problem is that, before she arrived, CW's appeal was toward "young adult" males, who Ostroff now wants to alienate.

[DarthTrey]

Eric Kripke has already said that he's planning to end the series soon. It could be this season, or it could be the next, but that's about it.

Meanwhile, Dawn Ostroff is running The CW so terribly (pimping boring shows that no one likes, like Gossip Girl, and making cosmetic changes to Smallville and Supernatural to make them more appealing to teenage girls, among other things) that the network is projected to be bankrupt within about two years. Ostroff is the CEO of the network, who used to run the O! network. Because of this, she's trying to make The CW appeal solely to the "young adult" female demographic. The problem is that, before she arrived, CW's appeal was toward "young adult" males, who Ostroff now wants to alienate.

Does anyone know where one goes to place a hit on someone?

[Septimus Prime]

Many people hate her. Check out the IMDb boards (but get ready to wade through a ton of garbage threads).

[Geese Pants]

Eric Kripke has already said that he's planning to end the series soon. It could be this season, or it could be the next, but that's about it.

Meanwhile, Dawn Ostroff is running The CW so terribly (pimping boring shows that no one likes, like Gossip Girl, and making cosmetic changes to Smallville and Supernatural to make them more appealing to teenage girls, among other things) that the network is projected to be bankrupt within about two years. Ostroff is the CEO of the network, who used to run the O! network. Because of this, she's trying to make The CW appeal solely to the "young adult" female demographic. The problem is that, before she arrived, CW's appeal was toward "young adult" males, who Ostroff now wants to alienate.


That explains a bit...........since they decided to kick WWE Smackdown to the curb, and to resurrect 90210.

It's come to the point when I was watching the fall promos and was like, "Where does Supernatural fit into their new scheme of things?"

Also, I don't mind seeing the series ending soon, as long as it goes on a high note. I never imagined the show going past 4 seasons anyway.

Anyway.....I might get Season 3 on Bluray as soon as I hook up my PS3.

[maxx]

their better be more than 1 steriotypical minority on the new 90210. shit even bayside had some color.

[Septimus Prime]

Ostroff actually doesn't like Supernatural. She said, and I quote, "I don't get it." That's why you don't see reruns and why the show has the shittiest time slot ever (up against CSI and Grey's Anatomy? And she wonders why it doesn't get fantastic ratings).

And yes, it does explain why WWE got canned for 90210.

[DarthTrey]

Ostroff actually doesn't like Supernatural. She said, and I quote, "I don't get it." That's why you don't see reruns and why the show has the shittiest time slot ever (up against CSI and Grey's Anatomy? And she wonders why it doesn't get fantastic ratings).

And yes, it does explain why WWE got canned for 90210.


gah how did she get her job anyways?

She formerly ran O! which tanked hard core, makes no sense:confused:

[Geese Pants]

Season 3 DVD and Bluray coming out this Tuesday.
If I get the Bluray version............I'm gonna want the first 2 on Bluray was well.

[Kisame]

sad that the most overlooked show on television is getting this treatment. it's the only gem on that godforsaken channel

[4Play]

sad that the most overlooked show on television is getting this treatment. it's the only gem on that godforsaken channel

I completely agree.

It's ridiculous that Supernatural gets such a hard time slot. Didn't it go up against Lost in the winter?

[ChairHome]

Season 3 DVD and Bluray coming out this Tuesday.
If I get the Bluray version............I'm gonna want the first 2 on Bluray was well.

Actually, the Blu-ray version doesn't come out until November 11.

And still no word on the first two seasons in blu-ray. Note that the later seasons of Smallville are on Blu-ray, but nothing for the earlier seasons yet. So it might be a while till the earlier ones come out...

On a Supernatural related note, my wife and I let a friend watch the first episode of the series and it hooked her. I'm going to try to expose as many friends as possible to the greatness of the series.

[Wellman]

Eric Kripke has already said that he's planning to end the series soon. It could be this season, or it could be the next, but that's about it.

Meanwhile, Dawn Ostroff is running The CW so terribly (pimping boring shows that no one likes, like Gossip Girl, and making cosmetic changes to Smallville and Supernatural to make them more appealing to teenage girls, among other things) that the network is projected to be bankrupt within about two years. Ostroff is the CEO of the network, who used to run the O! network. Because of this, she's trying to make The CW appeal solely to the "young adult" female demographic. The problem is that, before she arrived, CW's appeal was toward "young adult" males, who Ostroff now wants to alienate.

Never knew such a dumb woman could ever get so much power over a fairly new network. Really, the CW obviously is in a difficult position battling the big three but a lot of their decisions regarding programming are somewhat dumb. I mean why even waste so many people's time with producing crap like Aliens in America when anyone with a lick of sense would know it would fail?

I feel bad for those working at the CW, I really do.

[maxx]

if anyone knows a good site to watch last season streaming..hit me up in pm. i missed a good portion of it.

[Septimus Prime]

Season premiere this week. Get hype!

[Geese Pants]

For some reason........I'm not liking how CW is "promoting" the season premiere.

[maxx]

Season premiere this week. Get hype!

day and time?

[Lv.32 Z-Ism Rose]

We should be happy SN is getting ANY kind of promotion these days. I only recently saw the ads for the season premiere. honestly, if I REALLY weren't looking forward to seeing the season premiere, I wouldnt even know it was coming on.....

Of course, we all know when Gossip girl will be coming on over and over and over....

[4Play]

Interview with producer/writer (http://www.newsarama.com/tv/080917-supernatural-gamble.html). Damn she's cute too. Spoilers beware.

[Geese Pants]

As I've said.........Supernatural has the HOTTEST chicks on TV.
Ruby
Bella
Those chicks in the Sin City episode
That MILF in "The Kids are allright episode"
The Crossroads lady (all 4 incarnations)
The black female hunter with the short hair......delicious chocolate.
The werewolf chick

I hope they keep the hotness trend in the new season.

[DarthTrey]

We should be happy SN is getting ANY kind of promotion these days. I only recently saw the ads for the season premiere. honestly, if I REALLY weren't looking forward to seeing the season premiere, I wouldnt even know it was coming on.....

Of course, we all know when Gossip girl will be coming on over and over and over....

It could be worse it could be tied to that shitty new CW show that my gf is watching(WHICH IS BLOCKING MY DVR FROM RECORDING FRINGE) Privileged. I fucking hate that show, how can the same station run such drastically different programs :S

[RockBogart]

^ cunt punt dat ho?

[Septimus Prime]

Your DVR doesn't have two tuners? Time for a new DVR.

[ChairHome]

day and time?
I think its Thursday at 9pm

Season premiere this week. Get hype!

Hell yeah. I'm really excited about this. Not going to read that spoiler link above that 4play posted... :-/

[DarthTrey]

Your DVR doesn't have two tuners? Time for a new DVR.

It does but the other one is taken up by a show that we both like(Greek)

[ChairHome]

Just watch one of those shows live.

[Septimus Prime]

There's almost no spoiler in the link.

[4Play]

Well they briefly mention a new character. So :wonder:

Originally, Jason Vorhees was slated to make an appearance last year, which didn’t happen,

That would of been pretty cool.

[ChairHome]

There's almost no spoiler in the link.

Thanks for checking for me! Sounds like they have some good ideas for this season. I like when they have those episodes that are "different" and non-formulaic. And... Jason Voorhees was supposed to be in the last season?

[maxx]

wtf? jason...haha thats dope they were even in talks of doing that. i really wish they would just move the show to a new channel.

[ChairHome]

Its starting over here in less than 2 hours... :-D

I'm going to post so many spoilers.

Just kidding.

[Million]

haha...I'm so terrible. When whatever demon showed it's face to that girl just now...and...a certain something happened*avoiding small spoilers here* ...first thing that came to mind for me was "damn...well, she's not so hittable anymore."

Bonus Cool points for Sam administering the Meat™ to that cute little sexpot from abcFamily's "Wildfire". I would hope she comes back as a regular, but I'm already doubting it....seems like that was just a 1-time fling for Sam.

[maxx]

sooo..would you do a blind chick lol.

[Septimus Prime]

:u: Watch your fuckin' spoilers, maxx. :mad:

[maxx]

:u: Watch your fuckin' spoilers, maxx. :mad:

man a spoiler ruins shit...that ruins nothing..its vaige enough it doesnt do anything.

[Vejita_x]

what the f

[D'Nyc3]

interesting ending!!!

[Geese Pants]

Spoiler tags man............Supernatural got postponed here by baseball.
I'll likely won't see it until tomorrow.

[Lv.32 Z-Ism Rose]

Wow, just wow!! Damn awesome way to begin the season!! This season will be epic!

[maxx]

interesting ending!!!

i actually suspected they would do that eventually...took them long enough.

[ChairHome]

Had a feeling when he was coming into the barn that that was what he really was. Interesting way to bring something new to the series. I laughed at "Perky Nipples". Great start to the season!

[Kisame]

OH LORD BEST FUCKIGN SHOW IN ALL THE UNIVERSE JESUS NO SEASON PREMIERE CAN EVER MATCHUP

shut television down its over.

[Septimus Prime]

I'll need to readjust my tiers soon. Trickster is still probably tops, though.

[uknowuwishuwereme]

The part where he smacked that bitch twice was pretty random.

[Million]

^that was The Shit™....show 'em who's boss. *2 smacks* "....Yeah. I thought so." haha, all she could do was sit there and take it, like a good little bitch.

*It looks like Cutie from Wildfire will be a regular after all....I still miss my honey Bella.

[ChairHome]

I like the old Ruby better... both as eye candy and acting wise. I wonder if Gordon will turn up in this next episode. Also, the slapping was great.
And Trickster will always be top tier.

[Kisame]

Angels >>>> random creatures. although castiel is a very very very very low tier on angels..

Hopefully we get some Gabriel or even some Michael.

[maxx]

Angels >>>> random creatures. although castiel is a very very very very low tier on angels..

Hopefully we get some Gabriel or even some Michael.

ive never heard of castiel before...whats his job in the biblical sense.

they were always ambigious about the concept of god and the devil...though they always recognized hell..always thought that was interesting. but now with god being around we automatically have a devil.

[Kisame]

ive never heard of castiel before...whats his job in the biblical sense.

they were always ambigious about the concept of god and the devil...though they always recognized hell..always thought that was interesting. but now with god being around we automatically have a devil.

Nah god wouldn't have confirmed a devil but the angels confirm lucifer. It could have been an evil god like in Berserk.

and castiel is the angel of thursday. Very very low level and rarely if ever talked about. I Think is just a cherub.

[Sano]

LOL at the WB Budget. Why couldn't we see Dean in hell for a while? Heck come to mention it, I would of loved to see Buffy of Buffy The Vampire Slayer in heaven for a while too when she was dead. It's all CGI man, just torture Dean in hades for an entire hour, um, maybe just 30 minutes? :badboy: Darn WB, spend that money Bugs Bunny! :looney:

Ah, I guess there's always time for a flashback ep...

That Demon chick that helps out Sam wasn't cute last year and she's not cute this year. PS bring Bella back.... :lovin:

Good episode all around though. :tup:

[maxx]

lol but blind psyhcic could get it still.

lol brother 3 some...isnt that like incest? haha. sometimes i swear the producers have the censors in their payroll come some of the shit they get away with i'm fucking amazed at. haha. keep paying them censors off boys.

[Sano]

lol but blind psyhcic could get it still.



Yeah she could. I think she and Bobby were "Friends With Benefits" and he was tapping that on the side. What was up with that hug? Even Sam and Dean gave each other a WTF look after that hug! :rofl:

[maxx]

Yeah she could. I think she and Bobby were "Friends With Benefits" and he was tapping that on the side. What was up with that hug? Even Sam and Dean gave each other a WTF look after that hug! :rofl:

:rofl::rofl:

she is clearly a freak...she would do anything that moves if bobby was even getting some.

[4Play]

LOL at the WB Budget. Why couldn't we see Dean in hell for a while? Heck come to mention it, I would of loved to see Buffy of Buffy The Vampire Slayer in heaven for a while too when she was dead. It's all CGI man, just torture Dean in hades for an entire hour, Um, maybe just 30 minutes? :badboy: Darn WB, spend that money Bugs Bunny! :looney:

Ah, I guess there's always time for a flashback ep...


I'm thinking that's what they will do. Producer said there will be episodes showing what Sam did in the four month span as well.


Psychic chick was a freak. Damn Bobby:rofl:

[DarthTrey]

So I'm diggin that they didn't go all 7th heaven with the angels. They kind of had a "The Prophecy" to them. Epic season opener. Trumps all the ones I've seen

Must come back once I have gathered my thoughts to put more sentences together.


p.s.

Dug the "I thoght you were man enough to hear my true voice and see my true form.... guess not....." HILARIOUS


agreed Trixter is pro.

[maxx]

So I'm diggin that they didn't go all 7th heaven with the angels. They kind of had a "The Prophecy" to them. Epic season opener. Trumps all the ones I've seen

Must come back once I have gathered my thoughts to put more sentences together.


p.s.

Dug the "I thoght you were man enough to hear my true voice and see my true form.... guess not....." HILARIOUS


agreed Trixter is pro.

not exactly man enough but special enough. which makes me wonder if that shit is meant for his brother.

[DarthTrey]

not exactly man enough but special enough. which makes me wonder if that shit is meant for his brother.

OH also Sam psychic pwning demons is ftw.

[Sano]

The thing with Dean is that he doesn't believe in God or Angels at all. I guess that episode last year where he was saved by an 'Act of God' do to a random metal tube breaking through a window didn't do much to have a lasting effect on him. So that's probably why he had trouble getting the Angel's message.

Angels, the ones in the Bible, not the fake Hollywood ones that are just Cupid rip offs made 1,000s of years ago so they could lure in people who were into Greek Mythology lol - Are actually a pretty violent bunch. If you ever read of an Angel, chances are they have a fiery sword and are wiping people out or are fighting against other Angels ooh... Not for nothing but if you come across an Angel you better run the other way quick! :lol:

In Revelations there's an explanation on how they are supposed to look like. They have like 4 animal heads, huge wings and move around on some big wheels, crazy... Yeah I can see going blind if you see something crazy like that. :looney: Course people take a lot of things in Revelations to be symbolic, and a lot of it probably is. Like a tall lady grabbing the sun and cloaking her body with it and things like that. Though I doubt if there are real Angels out there they look like Cupid, but that's another story...

LOL I'm always getting Sam and Dean's names confused because the actor who played Sam was called Dean on Gilmore Girls, anyone else go through that? :rofl:

[RockBogart]

Just finished watching. I am very pleased.

[ShinMegatron]

LOL I'm always getting Sam and Dean's names confused because the actor who played Sam was called Dean on Gillmore Girls, anyone else go through that? :rofl:

Haha, a little bit, I remember there was an episode in the first season where they passed by the gilmore girls set and there was awkwardness.

[Septimus Prime]

I doubt we'll ever see Michael or Gabriel, since they are Archangels who really don't care about the dominion of the living.

Also, I agree with Chair's spoiler.

Regarding what angels are supposed to look like, only one class of angel actually looks like that.

God

[Kisame]

whats really good to is that god is every bit a prick the bible seems to make him out to be.

Lol at leaving dean in hell for 4 months then asking him to do work for him.

[Septimus Prime]

I actually liked the show better when there wasn't God or angels or anything like that, but I'm curious where this is going to go.

[DarthTrey]

I actually liked the show better when there wasn't God or angels or anything like that, but I'm curious where this is going to go.


I think it's honestly too early to make that declaration that it was better before they introduced them. So far we've seen 10 min. of "confirmed" god/angel plotline otherwise it was similar now if they start getting preachy and shit I will agree with you entirely but from the short time we've seen it I get the feeling it will just be 2 sides of a battlefront. Obviously one is more "good" than another, but what makes a demon so evil in this series?

As far as I can tell it's because they use humans for entertainment which is no different than what we do with other forms of life we consider to be below us. It will be interesting if the "good" side of the war does the same thing.

I mean if you really think about it "God" wants to use Dean for something. What did the original Yellow Eyes demon want to do? He wanted to use Sam to take over the earth. Why did he want to take over the earth? I presume because Hell sucks monkey balls. But so far in their behavior they haven't really done much that is different from each other aside from demons just using people in a lot more viscous fashion. It will be interesting in my opinion to see how the other side regards human life. Just my 2 pennies.

[Septimus Prime]

I didn't say it was worse; I said I don't like it. I really enjoyed that there was no "good" or Heaven to balance out the wicked before, but now there might be.

[maxx]

I doubt we'll ever see Michael or Gabriel, since they are Archangels who really don't care about the dominion of the living.

Also, I agree with Chair's spoiler.

Regarding what angels are supposed to look like, only one class of angel actually looks like that.

God

though if they ever put azriel on it would be fucking cool as hell. since he's supposed to be covered with eyes and tongues or sumtin to that effect.

i also looked up another angel who supposedly has a thousand wings.

ariels got a lions head lol.


basically all the angels that aren't top tier arch angel level look weird as hell.

[Kisame]

Kinda disappointed by Castiel's entrance though. Not the entrance itself that was awesome...but it was wasted on such a scrub.

How can lucifer if he ever appears (which seems to be hinted at hugely) top that?

Will the sky turn red and rain blood and the earth open up and fire burn everything around Sam and dean and then ashes start to gather up into the form of a huge Demon with wings and eventual explode and then someone in a suit appears under it and dusts off a few ashes off his suit and says...."too much?"


also if i am predicting this right seems like dean will have angel based powers and sam will have demon based ones...

I wonder if their dad slept with both an angel and a demon and had them both respectfully... thus condemning sam and dean to have a final clash for the fate of mankind and dean having to kill sam...

[Vynce]

I've been avoiding this thread. My girl and I watched the entire series in order starting a couple weeks back. We managed to get through all of season 3 just 2 hours before last night's episode.

Awesome. I'm really psyched I got into this show. I figured out the angel angle right before we were clued in. I don't mind the God twist. If there's evil, there ought to be objective Good, too. Evil vs neutral worked for me too, though. I don't like the new Ruby either. I didn't like the old Ruby either. Blah.

[Kisame]

old ruby was just starting to grow on me. This new one is garbage. I hate when people get replaced no matter why. reminds me of candice from heroes and Aunt V from Fresh prince of bel air.

[maxx]

I've been avoiding this thread. My girl and I watched the entire series in order starting a couple weeks back. We managed to get through all of season 3 just 2 hours before last night's episode.

Awesome. I'm really psyched I got into this show. I figured out the angel angle right before we were clued in. I don't mind the God twist. If there's evil, there ought to be objective Good, too. Evil vs neutral worked for me too, though. I don't like the new Ruby either. I didn't like the old Ruby either. Blah.

the minute the bitch said cosmic..i went instantly to god and devil. Which makes things even more interesting since both guys are scraping by with basic tools. so it makes me wonder if the angel is gonna hook them up with some new tools.

[Septimus Prime]

Well, the show's female fans really hate the important female characters and potential love interests, like Jo and Ruby.

At least they sort of explained it.

[Geese Pants]

Well, the show's female fans really hate the important female characters and potential love interests, like Jo and Ruby.

At least they sort of explained it.

I'm starting to dislike female viewers...........always ruining my TV.
Old Ruby was the hotness.....

[maxx]

I'm starting to dislike female viewers...........always ruining my TV.
Old Ruby was the hotness.....

they accept their stupid fan pairings as gods truth. this show wasnt made for female fans in mind.

[Wellman]

I actually liked the show better when there wasn't God or angels or anything like that, but I'm curious where this is going to go.

The fact is the only thing heavenly we have to go on is Castiel's word and that one episode from a previous season. I doubt God himself will play to heavily in this season other than be who Castiel and whatever angels show up claim to take orders from but may or may not be working for.

Besides the whole shadow wings screaming evil, there is little doubt that their objectives will conflict with Sam's current objective to increase his powers.

And yeah, new Ruby is definitely not as hot as old tall girl and I usually prefer brunettes. But kudos for Sam tapping that ass and now being able to peace out demons with his mind.

Best (and only) season opener I have seen all week.

[4Play]

Hmm I'm also interested in where the whole Ruby teaching Sam how to use the FORCE will lead.

[mcginnis]

Kinda disappointed by Castiel's entrance though. Not the entrance itself that was awesome...but it was wasted on such a scrub.

How can lucifer if he ever appears (which seems to be hinted at hugely) top that?

Will the sky turn red and rain blood and the earth open up and fire burn everything around Sam and dean and then ashes start to gather up into the form of a huge Demon with wings and eventual explode and then someone in a suit appears under it and dusts off a few ashes off his suit and says...."too much?"


also if i am predicting this right seems like dean will have angel based powers and sam will have demon based ones...

I wonder if their dad slept with both an angel and a demon and had them both respectfully... thus condemning sam and dean to have a final clash for the fate of mankind and dean having to kill sam...

Thinking this as well. I don't think Dean will get any powers but maybe a new gun or something along those lines. It could also be that Sam is lucifer's weapon while Dean becomes god's. All leading to them duking it out in the finale or something. Looking forward to how this unravels; SN has got to be the only show I actually try to watch on release.

[maxx]

Hmm I'm also interested in where the whole Ruby teaching Sam how to use the FORCE will lead.

thank god im the only one who instantly went into force choke mode when he did that.

[Septimus Prime]

Well, I really liked that the show really strayed away from affirming any religious faith, but now with God added to the mix, it kind of skews it in favor of monotheistic faiths. That's really what I don't like about this new turn of events.

Of course, I understand that they really did need a way to bring Dean back from the dead (because the show wouldn't be the same without him), and (I'm hoping) Castiel could actually be something else telling us a grandiose lie.

[Vynce]

^Yeah, I hear you there. If they do go with a God/ angels direction, they might not beat us over the head with the benevolent God and his angels. Old testament God and angels that resent humans would be okay. Castiel has already taken out a bitch's eyes...You know, accidentally. I do kind of wonder if he's lying, too. Even if he isn't, we still can't say for sure he's a good angel. I don't know if angels are supposed to automatically change if they fall from grace or whatever.

[Wellman]

Well a good episode although not great.

Meg looked more hittable to me, although I was hoping for Bella. And Bobby needs to stop calling on female friends, they always seem worse for wear after he tries to get in touch with them.

Well it looks like all that talk about the end of the world in the commercials for this season was on the money. They are trying to march out some book of Revelations shit. Still not buying that the "Angels" are completely good nor am I thinking that it is going to be just Lilith pulling the strings on breaking the seals.

I know the ghosts were supposed to be creepy but, fat guy Ronald and the twins were pretty funny. I mean the twins started with old school horror movie ball rolling down the stairs bit. Was that from the Shining or another movie?


Next episode looks like it might open up some more answers as to what is going on and the show hasn't done time travel before besides Sam's groundhog day from hell.

[Geese Pants]

This episode freaked me out..........

I honestly thought that Bobby was gonna die in this episode.........dude is too cool to die.

[Wellman]

This episode freaked me out..........

I honestly thought that Bobby was gonna die in this episode.........dude is too cool to die.

I agree, there seemed like a lot of close calls.

[Kisame]

Is this the first time someone made dean too scared to even retort back?

I see why Ruby is so scared of angels. I'd hate to see when Michael, Gabriel, and other archangels get some p.t.

anyone have a link to all 666 seals?

[ChairHome]

Episode was okay. I was hoping for more deceased to show up. I was expecting Gordon.

[Kisame]

Episode was okay. I was hoping for more deceased to show up. I was expecting Gordon.

he's kinda in hell. This is only the innocent who died for reasons they didnt deserve by supernatural means and didnt have the heart to forgive the hunters.

[ShinkuuR]

Episode was okay. I was hoping for more deceased to show up. I was expecting Gordon.

Me too. I was hoping that Werewolf girl would also show up to torment Sam a bit, that would've been pretty good.

I don't know if I'm hyped about the Angel/God concept entering Supernatural yet, but I would at least hope we get to actually SEE angels smiting demons with fire swords and shit instead of just hearing about it all the time.

[Million]

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to see Castiel or another angel show up and instantly kill Ruby without hesitation...she was smart to run away for awhile.

Cas lets you know in this episode that their side isn't as much as a fairy tale as people think when thinking of angels and God. He stated they were warriors...and apparently, little more than that.

Once the shit really hits the fan, how could you top the apocalypse and bringing in Lucifer though? This all seems like something you save up for a series finale....because there isn't much more to do after such a "final battle" armageddon type of thing like that...eh, they could probably stretch this out to 2 seasons of material though...

[Kisame]

the final seal being broken and lucifer being freed is a season finale.

Defeating lucifer is a whole season in and of it self. After that we could learn that every religion is true; the reason that YHWH can't help is because there are gods just as strong as him vying for the faith of mankind as well.

[darksoul173]

"I never forget the pie"
"Dude where's the pie?"

[maxx]

are the dvds uncensored or are they same stuff u see on tv?

[Septimus Prime]

the final seal being broken and lucifer being freed is a season finale.

Defeating lucifer is a whole season in and of it self. After that we could learn that every religion is true; the reason that YHWH can't help is because there are gods just as strong as him vying for the faith of mankind as well.
Kripke mentioned last year that this (or next) season would likely be the last, so I don't know about that.

Anyway, I'm even less hyped about this angels and God thing now, since it's now pretty much affirmed that Christianity is the favored religion of the series (Revelations is New Testament). Oh well. I also find it weird that angels can be killed.

[darksoul173]

Kripke mentioned last year that this (or next) season would likely be the last, so I don't know about that.

Anyway, I'm even less hyped about this angels and God thing now, since it's now pretty much affirmed that Christianity is the favored religion of the series (Revelations is New Testament). Oh well. I also find it weird that angels can be killed.
Sera Gamble said that this season is the pre-apocalyptic season so i guess its safe to assume that next season will be the last

And if demons can be killed why not angels?

[maxx]

Kripke mentioned last year that this (or next) season would likely be the last, so I don't know about that.

Anyway, I'm even less hyped about this angels and God thing now, since it's now pretty much affirmed that Christianity is the favored religion of the series (Revelations is New Testament). Oh well. I also find it weird that angels can be killed.

its not surprising since lucifer had a war on heaven with fallen angels...cant have a war without death.

[Septimus Prime]

Sera Gamble said that this season is the pre-apocalyptic season so i guess its safe to assume that next season will be the last

And if demons can be killed why not angels?
Well, considering how powerful Castiel seems and how relatively weak Lilith was last season, what would even be able to kill an angel, other than an upper tier angel?

[maxx]

Well, considering how powerful Castiel seems and how relatively weak Lilith was last season, what would even be able to kill an angel, other than an upper tier angel?

someone said a few pages back castiel was a low tier angel.

[darksoul173]

Well, considering how powerful Castiel seems and how relatively weak Lilith was last season, what would even be able to kill an angel, other than an upper tier angel?

Sam?

[Septimus Prime]

someone said a few pages back castiel was a low tier angel.
Yes, I know Castiel is low tier, but why would he even be fighting upper tier angels? Remember, first tier angels, like Seraphim, Cherubim, and Thrones, never leave their posts, and second tier angels tend to not care about the affairs of the world, so that only leaves archangels. Why would Heaven's army be fighting those?

Also, remember that Lucifer is not yet free and that Lilith is the current leader of the demon horde, so I'm going to assume that the other fallen angels are trapped along with Lucifer. Also, remember that, until Castiel's appearance, no one—neither human nor demon—has yet seen a single angel, so I doubt the fallen are just walking around Hell like they own the place.

MAYBE the angels and the fallen are fighting against one another invisibly, but then why is Lilith the one breaking the seals? Maybe Lilith is just an envoy of the fallen angels, but I guess we'll need to wait and see. I wonder if Azazel was too.

Sam?
It's possible, but you would think then Castiel would take care of Sam while he is sleeping, since we know he can and would.

Also, just because this season is pre-Apocalypse doesn't necessarily mean that there will be a post-Apocalypse season, since the Apocalypse would end the world, and this season is about them trying to prevent it.

[darksoul173]

Yes, I know Castiel is low tier, but why would he even be fighting upper tier angels? Remember, first tier angels, like Seraphim, Cherubim, and Thrones, never leave their posts, and second tier angels tend to not care about the affairs of the world, so that only leaves archangels. Why would Heaven's army be fighting those?

Also, remember that Lucifer is not yet free and that Lilith is the current leader of the demon horde, so I'm going to assume that the other fallen angels are trapped along with Lucifer. Also, remember that, until Castiel's appearance, no one—neither human nor demon—has yet seen a single angel, so I doubt the fallen are just walking around Hell like they own the place.

MAYBE the angels and the fallen are fighting against one another invisibly, but then why is Lilith the one breaking the seals? Maybe Lilith is just an envoy of the fallen angels, but I guess we'll need to wait and see. I wonder if Azazel was too.


It's possible, but you would think then Castiel would take care of Sam while he is sleeping, since we know he can and would.

Also, just because this season is pre-Apocalypse doesn't necessarily mean that there will be a post-Apocalypse season, since the Apocalypse would end the world, and this season is about them trying to prevent it.
Yeah well it is kinda wierd why Cas didn't kill Sam cause its pretty sure he knows he got demon blood in him, maybe he wants Sam to fight on thier side

I didn't say there will be a post-apocalypse season cause if they're going to pull the Luci card that's will pretty much end the show cause you cant bring anything stronger than him without jumping the shark (altough Luci does stretch the line a bit)

[wrecKREATiON]

just like the demon that killed their mom in season 1, they might carry over the heaven vs. hell war into season 5 and thus ending the series there. I sure hope so!

[Vynce]

Good episode, I thought. I thought Bobby was in for it, too. I'm glad they're showing how angels would really be, imo. Superior, and lacking in kindness. God loves his monkees.

[Wellman]

Well, considering how powerful Castiel seems and how relatively weak Lilith was last season, what would even be able to kill an angel, other than an upper tier angel?

Aside from some emergence of upper tier demons or the dead angels mentioned being cherubs, I am still not fully buying Castiel as a trust worthy source of information.

And Lilith was only weak in the face of Sam somehow completely immobilizing her power thus causing the retreat. Although I don't believe that she is the big bad to worry about this season either.

Personally, I think the reason Dean was brought back definitely has to do with the angels wanting a weapon against Sam. Dude was supposed to be heading up Yellow Eyes' demon army, I am guessing that his powers extend to angels as well.

[Septimus Prime]

Aside from some emergence of upper tier demons or the dead angels mentioned being cherubs, I am still not fully buying Castiel as a trust worthy source of information.

And Lilith was only weak in the face of Sam somehow completely immobilizing her power thus causing the retreat. Although I don't believe that she is the big bad to worry about this season either.

Personally, I think the reason Dean was brought back definitely has to do with the angels wanting a weapon against Sam. Dude was supposed to be heading up Yellow Eyes' demon army, I am guessing that his powers extend to angels as well.

Cherubim (plural form of Cherub) are top tier angels who guard the Tree of Life in the Garden of Eden and cannot ever leave their post.

[Kisame]

The correct plural can be written as cherubim or cherubs

[darksoul173]

Anyone else found it cool how Castiel was all like "Dean know your role and shut your mouth"

[Kisame]

In Episode 13, Season 2 of the television show Supernatural, the character Sam points to an image on the church wall and says, "Father, that's Michael, right?", to which the Priest replies, "That's right. The archangel Michael, with the flaming sword. The fighter of demons, holy force against evil.

foreshadowing? I think so. Can't wait for michael.

[4Play]

Aside from some emergence of upper tier demons or the dead angels mentioned being cherubs, I am still not fully buying Castiel as a trust worthy source of information.

And Lilith was only weak in the face of Sam somehow completely immobilizing her power thus causing the retreat. Although I don't believe that she is the big bad to worry about this season either.

Personally, I think the reason Dean was brought back definitely has to do with the angels wanting a weapon against Sam. Dude was supposed to be heading up Yellow Eyes' demon army, I am guessing that his powers extend to angels as well.


I agree with your spoiler. Would be a nice season finale while next season Lucifer appears.

[maxx]

Yes, I know Castiel is low tier, but why would he even be fighting upper tier angels? Remember, first tier angels, like Seraphim, Cherubim, and Thrones, never leave their posts, and second tier angels tend to not care about the affairs of the world, so that only leaves archangels. Why would Heaven's army be fighting those?

Also, remember that Lucifer is not yet free and that Lilith is the current leader of the demon horde, so I'm going to assume that the other fallen angels are trapped along with Lucifer. Also, remember that, until Castiel's appearance, no one—neither human nor demon—has yet seen a single angel, so I doubt the fallen are just walking around Hell like they own the place.

MAYBE the angels and the fallen are fighting against one another invisibly, but then why is Lilith the one breaking the seals? Maybe Lilith is just an envoy of the fallen angels, but I guess we'll need to wait and see. I wonder if Azazel was too.

.
good points which hopefully will be fleshed out well.


what i find interesting is...i know u mentioned that christianity is the overall religion but i disagree...since lilith is actually a jewish thing from what i understand. she was created before eve. mixing of religions

[TheRock]

Anyone else found it cool how Castiel was all like "Dean know your role and shut your mouth"

I logged in just to say Hell Yeah I found it cool. The actor delivered the line to Dean perfectly.

"You should show me some respect. I dragged you out of hell. I can throw you back in." -Castiel

[Septimus Prime]

good points which hopefully will be fleshed out well.


what i find interesting is...i know u mentioned that christianity is the overall religion but i disagree...since lilith is actually a jewish thing from what i understand. she was created before eve. mixing of religions
Lilith is Old Testament, which also exists in Christianity.

[Lv.32 Z-Ism Rose]

This is more if a general question:

What actually has the power/ability? The Colt, or the bullets? Because they sure made an issue out of how many bullets they had left in the first season...

Maybe I missed it....

[mcginnis]

Maybe both since you can't fire the bullets without a gun. Although, when they fixed it they were using regular ones from what I could tell.

[Kisame]

This is more if a general question:

What actually has the power/ability? The Colt, or the bullets? Because they sure made an issue out of how many bullets they had left in the first season...

Maybe I missed it....

it's the gun. if it was the bullets wouldn't matter which gun it was fired from.

[Vynce]

it's the gun. if it was the bullets wouldn't matter which gun it was fired from.

...And if it was just the gun, it wouldn't matter how many bullets were used or wasted. It was both.

Later in the series, the gun is modified so that other bullets can be used instead of just Colt's special bullets. Thanks Ruby.

[Kisame]

...And if it was just the gun, it wouldn't matter how many bullets were used or wasted. It was both.

Later in the series, the gun is modified so that other bullets can be used instead of just Colt's special bullets. Thanks Ruby.


Oh pfft that was obvious back then.

[Vynce]

Of course it was. Remember all the talk and worry about wasting bullets? Why wouldn't they just slap bullets from the ammo store in once the stock ones ran out? The special nature of the gun itself was made pretty clear when it was introduced to the series.

[Septimus Prime]

Too bad the colt is gone now. I wonder if it can kill angels too, since it "could kill anything."

[mcginnis]

Doubt it since they're on another level and that ruby blade didn't do squat.

[maxx]

Doubt it since they're on another level and that ruby blade didn't do squat.

plus no one knew angels existed til recently.

[DarthTrey]

Personally I feel the season finale will end with them stopping the apocalypse, or failing to stop it.....


I agree that they are using Dean to appeal to Sam, I think Sam is going to take a negative turn later on in the season and they needed Dean to appeal to the "brotherly love" factor.


And just because they have Angels and God doesn't really mean that it's locked onto christianity. Iirc Islam has Angels and God is just replaced with Allah.(as far as the higher ups).

Obviously there are going to be more nods to the christian faith as that is what the majority of US citizens practice.

I'm still fairly interested in where this story arc can go, and lets be honest...It's a hell of a lot better than Heroes is.....

[Wellman]

Too bad the colt is gone now. I wonder if it can kill angels too, since it "could kill anything."

How did they lose the Colt? They got it back last year from Bella the episode before the season finale if I remember right.

[maxx]

Personally I feel the season finale will end with them stopping the apocalypse, or failing to stop it.....


I agree that they are using Dean to appeal to Sam, I think Sam is going to take a negative turn later on in the season and they needed Dean to appeal to the "brotherly love" factor.


And just because they have Angels and God doesn't really mean that it's locked onto christianity. Iirc Islam has Angels and God is just replaced with Allah.(as far as the higher ups).

Obviously there are going to be more nods to the christian faith as that is what the majority of US citizens practice.

I'm still fairly interested in where this story arc can go, and lets be honest...It's a hell of a lot better than Heroes is.....

i'd love for them to take a hella left turn and go islam since they know their gonna either get cancelled or end the show with the next 2-3 seasons. just give a big fu to the execs at wb.

[Vynce]

How did they lose the Colt? They got it back last year from Bella the episode before the season finale if I remember right.


They never got it back from her, unfortunately. She gave it up to try to get out of her deal, if I remember correctly. It didn't pan out.

[Septimus Prime]

Personally I feel the season finale will end with them stopping the apocalypse, or failing to stop it.....


I agree that they are using Dean to appeal to Sam, I think Sam is going to take a negative turn later on in the season and they needed Dean to appeal to the "brotherly love" factor.


And just because they have Angels and God doesn't really mean that it's locked onto christianity. Iirc Islam has Angels and God is just replaced with Allah.(as far as the higher ups).

Obviously there are going to be more nods to the christian faith as that is what the majority of US citizens practice.

I'm still fairly interested in where this story arc can go, and lets be honest...It's a hell of a lot better than Heroes is.....
I said it only favored monotheism. I never said it locked the show onto Christianity or any other specific faith.

However, this does remind me of another point. Remember Castiel's first appearance? Dean and Bobby were protecting themselves with symbols and artifacts from every (established) faith in the world, and Castiel just walked right through it all. If you really dig deep for this one, you can say that that scene implies that all faiths are wrong. Combo that with the monotheism angle from above, and you do have the show more or less affirming one of the big three faiths.

i'd love for them to take a hella left turn and go islam since they know their gonna either get cancelled or end the show with the next 2-3 seasons. just give a big fu to the execs at wb.
The show isn't going to get canceled. The story is going to end.

[DarthTrey]

I said it only favored monotheism. I never said it locked the show onto Christianity or any other specific faith.

However, this does remind me of another point. Remember Castiel's first appearance? Dean and Bobby were protecting themselves with symbols and artifacts from every (established) faith in the world, and Castiel just walked right through it all. If you really dig deep for this one, you can say that that scene implies that all faiths are wrong. Combo that with the monotheism angle from above, and you do have the show more or less affirming one of the big three faiths.


my bad I misunderstood this statement then -

Anyway, I'm even less hyped about this angels and God thing now, since it's now pretty much affirmed that Christianity is the favored religion of the series (Revelations is New Testament). Oh well. I also find it weird that angels can be killed.




Anyways I think it would be interesting if they worked in something to the effect of saying that all religions have it wrong. Done in the correct way I think it would be more satisfying than X religion is right. But I guess we shall have to wait and see.

[Septimus Prime]

That was improper wording on my part. I meant to reference the Apocalypse from Revelations.

[ChairHome]

Interview with Castiel (http://www.tv.com/story/11686.html?tag=video;latest_news;title;11686). I think it answers a few of the speculative questions here. Unless he hasn't been told what happens later in the season. But some good info in here.


TV.com: So you can confirm for us right now that Castiel is actually an angel? I know there's some sort of debate about whether he's tricking Sam and Dean.

Misha Collins: I'm going to say that Castiel is an angel, unless I'm the butt of a joke as well.

[Geese Pants]

Really good episode tonight............wow.

[ShinkuuR]

That ep was the shit.

I wonder what Sam and Ruby were up to during that time. From the preview for next ep, it doesn't seem like it will fill in the blanks. Regardless, Castiel isn't wasting any time bringing the realness to Dean. Gotta nip that shit in the bud.

But goddamn Dean. He just can't catch a break.

[Geese Pants]

Really touched on some things............

1. It was Dean's family that were hunters.........not John's side as I thought.

2. Yellow Eyes was dealer like the crossroads chick? He did kiss Mary (Ewww incest).

3. Castiel is an asshole.............I'm starting to like him.

[Sacr3D]

So how good is this show compared to say ... prison break! Trying to find a new show to watch since I just did a 4 season marathon of prison break !

[Million]

cheh,

This has become my favorite show at the moment. I've never had even a slight interest in Prison Break....that concept just never grabbed me. Funny how it's still "Prison Break" but they seem so far beyond that now....kind of a no-win situation though since you obviously can't change the name of a show that's already established and has been on for a few seasons.

yeah, Sam and Dean's mom back in the day = HOT. This show always has such Prime™ TnA.

Anyway, I've never actually read up on the heirarchy of angels and demons...and this season prompted that curiosity. It's quite interesting, and there's huge story potential with that stuff. I'd go there too and steal a few things as well if I were writing/illustrating a comic or cartoon...(*which I would do if I weren't the world's laziest artist of all time. Really, my work ethic is so damn terrible it's just sad. Oddly enough, this came from deciding to major in art....but that's a rant for another topic.)

*Grandpa = was that Mulder and Scully's boss from X-files?!

*I still miss my honey Bella though....ohhhh that girl was magic.

[Wellman]

Really touched on some things............

1. It was Dean's family that were hunters.........not John's side as I thought.

2. Yellow Eyes was dealer like the crossroads chick? He did kiss Mary (Ewww incest).

3. Castiel is an asshole.............I'm starting to like him.

Actually Dean's mom, Mary, was pre-milf, but tasty as fuck. Mama mia!!

1. Yeah, that was a twist, I was thinking she might be a demon at first but the Hunter family was quite the twist. Lol at the origins for Sam and Dean's names.

2. Man that was just nasty. Yellow Eyes deserved to get shanked like the witch demon from last season for making old girl kiss him while he was riding her dead father's body.

3. I was thinking his occasional pop up were mainly due to the strain of keeping Dean in the past, because if he actually did do the whole pop in and out with cryptic lines thing on purpose... that fool was a huge asshole and a dick. And not the good combination of the two.

[Geese Pants]

Yeah..........I meant's Mary's side of the family rather than Dean. Typo on my part.

I missed the whole Dean and Sam name origin.

This episode had a weird Back to the Future type vibe............I was hoping to hear Huey Lewis and the News.

[Wellman]

So how good is this show compared to say ... prison break! Trying to find a new show to watch since I just did a 4 season marathon of prison break !

Its better than Prison Break IMO.

Most of the episodes are done in one affairs with a bigger plot building over the season. The humor is usually spot on and the action is a lot better and usually much more gory than your average Prison Break episode. I'd try to start in one of the earlier seasons but usually like I said, all you need to know is that it has two brothers that investigate and hunter supernatural occurrences.

[Septimus Prime]

Thanks for refraining from posting spoilers. I'm going to go watch in five minutes.

And yeah, for those who did extra research on angels, Metatron has the coolest name.

EDIT: And yeah, I couldn't get into Prison Break. I really never saw the appeal.

[mcginnis]

Thanks for refraining from posting spoilers. I'm going to go watch in five minutes.

And yeah, for those who did extra research on angels, Metatron has the coolest name.

EDIT: And yeah, I couldn't get into Prison Break. I really never saw the appeal.

I used to watch prison break until they broke out of that second prison and I thought it was dumb.

Tonights episode about Dean's mom was sick. Also, I wonder how he's going to get Sam to stop using his powers?

[Million]

it's funny how that demon sets up a deal, making it seem like such a casual, harmless thing...(of course, "harmless" if you overlook the fact that you just struck a deal with a demon)..."you want my soul?"
"Naaahhhh. I just need to swing by your place for a minute in 10 years, that's all. No big deal."

I'll have to get the dvds...I've missed out on a LOT of the earlier seasons.

[dn3000]

Yeah..........I meant's Mary's side of the family rather than Dean. Typo on my part.

I missed the whole Dean and Sam name origin.

This episode had a weird Back to the Future type vibe............I was hoping to hear Huey Lewis and the News.

Its weird, they played 'back in time'/'power of love' in one of the last episodes i think. I think the devil should get in a lower demons ass for getting a soul... thats his job:rofl:

[maxx]

it's funny how that demon sets up a deal, making it seem like such a casual, harmless thing...(of course, "harmless" if you overlook the fact that you just struck a deal with a demon)..."you want my soul?"
"Naaahhhh. I just need to swing by your place for a minute in 10 years, that's all. No big deal."

I'll have to get the dvds...I've missed out on a LOT of the earlier seasons.

:rofl::rofl:

its such a weird take on the whole contract angle..every other movie or show the demons are soo upfront about how they make deals...this mutherfucker is using semantics as his tool.

[DarthTrey]

ZOMG episode was freaking epic.

Castiel is really bringin the unfiltered truth to Dean.

So I'm beginning to think that Ruby isn't the "good Demon" she is portraying. I think she is milking Sam getting him slowly to move over and question the Angels and shit.

Thoughts?

[maxx]

ZOMG episode was freaking epic.

Castiel is really bringin the unfiltered truth to Dean.

So I'm beginning to think that Ruby isn't the "good Demon" she is portraying. I think she is milking Sam getting him slowly to move over and question the Angels and shit.

Thoughts?

sams never really shown that strong a distrust in the angel..its dean that has. But i agree ruby is up to some shenanigans....his psychic powers maybe helping weakening the seals or possibly feeding the devil who knows...shits to vague right now. not enough evidence. why trust a demon now when they have never shown signs to be good before.

lol@ sams n deans mom pretty much being buffy.

soo many back to the future references its not even funny.

and wtf at that destiny talk...if destiny is supposed to happen...why shit change. also time travel is always fucked up, cuz now u question if the shit went down the same in the past or if dean caused the shit to go down. lol. suddenly having flashbacks to red dwarf episode where it turns out lister is his own father.

[dn3000]

ZOMG episode was freaking epic.

Castiel is really bringin the unfiltered truth to Dean.

So I'm beginning to think that Ruby isn't the "good Demon" she is portraying. I think she is milking Sam getting him slowly to move over and question the Angels and shit.

Thoughts?

A girl friend of mine predicted that Sam will turn to the dark side or dean will be driven mad by the memories of Hell:shake:

[Geese Pants]

I'm starting to consider that Ruby is in on Yellow Eyes' End Game...........no way he could've covered his tracks that well all by himself.

[DarthTrey]

sams never really shown that strong a distrust in the angel..its dean that has. But i agree ruby is up to some shenanigans....his psychic powers maybe helping weakening the seals or possibly feeding the devil who knows...shits to vague right now. not enough evidence. why trust a demon now when they have never shown signs to be good before.


Where I got the idea was last episode(i think?) when Sam mentioned that Dean was brought back by an Angel. Ruby got all scared and said something to the effect of "He won't care what I've done I'm a demon and he'll attack me anyway"(not the direct quote but that's what I gathered from the convo).

It's little things like that statement which make me think that she is trying to play the part of the persecuted and sway sam to thinking that the angels aren't as good as he thought they were.


Now the only problem with this theory is through-out the entire series whenever "divine" powers are mentioned Sam has should unwavering faith in that they exist and that demons are evil.

I believe Ruby is trying to blur those lines by showing that all demons aren't "evil" and all angels aren't "good".


Maybe I'm reading too much into this but that's what's been bouncin around in me 'ead.

[Septimus Prime]

Sam has always been more trusting of people than Dean, so I think it makes sense that Ruby is trying guide him toward Azazel's endgame (especially when you consider that Lilith probably doesn't have the same goal in mind, since she was repressed while ol' Yellow Eyes was around and is afraid of Sam's power).

Anyway, yeah, I don't think next week's episode will address the ending on last night's episode. It'll probably be a mid-season thing. Plus, I read in an interview a while back that the episodes of this season might not go in chronological sequence, since they are going to explain the entire for month gap between Dean's death and resurrection but haven't yet.

[dn3000]

soo many back to the future references its not even funny.

and wtf at that destiny talk...if destiny is supposed to happen...why shit change. also time travel is always fucked up, cuz now u question if the shit went down the same in the past or if dean caused the shit to go down. lol. suddenly having flashbacks to red dwarf episode where it turns out lister is his own father.

LOL the under the pool table. Our rob or ross:rofl:

[DarthTrey]

Sam has always been more trusting of people than Dean, so I think it makes sense that Ruby is trying guide him toward Azazel's endgame (especially when you consider that Lilith probably doesn't have the same goal in mind, since she was repressed while ol' Yellow Eyes was around and is afraid of Sam's power).

Anyway, yeah, I don't think next week's episode will address the ending on last night's episode. It'll probably be a mid-season thing. Plus, I read in an interview a while back that the episodes of this season might not go in chronological sequence, since they are going to explain the entire for month gap between Dean's death and resurrection but haven't yet.

Hrmm this arises a curious point.

Lilith(to our knowledge so far) is trying to break the seals that are holding Lucifer in Hell.

Azazel was trying to arise a demon army(purpose unknown?)


Do you think Azazel was trying to overthrow Lucifer for the leader of hell?

[Septimus Prime]

I don't think Lucifer is the leader of Hell. Most of the low tier demons don't even know he exists, and those who do know also know that he's sealed away by God Himself.

My guess is this: Azazel and Lilith both know about Lucifer, and Lilith was probably his underling at some point (since she's been around since Adam's time). When Lucifer got sealed away, Azazel assumed leadership and repressed Lilith with his power. When Azazel died (I wonder where demons and angels go when they die), Lilith assumed his previous leadership role but did not know/approve of Azazel's plan, so she decided to try to free Lucifer.

Meanwhile, Ruby doesn't approve of Lilith's plan and might be privy to some of Azazel's old plan (maybe she was a high ranking officer) and wants to surreptitiously bring it to fruition by using Sam.

[DarthTrey]

So do you think the releasing of the seals is actually just releasing Lucifer from banishment?

If this is true I think it this introduces some interesting story possibilities.

The idea of a war over hell is an intriguing possibility i must confess.

[Geese Pants]

Castiel did tell Dean that Lilith is breaking the seals to free Lucifer...........so he is apparently locked away.

[DarthTrey]

Castiel did tell Dean that Lilith is breaking the seals to free Lucifer...........so he is apparently locked away.

I was under the impression that "locked away" meant "stuck in hell" and freeing Lucifer was allowing him to walk the earth..... not let him loose again in hell.....

[Geese Pants]

I was under the impression that "locked away" meant "stuck in hell" and freeing Lucifer was allowing him to walk the earth..... not let him loose again in hell.....

Well it's weird to me that lesser demons can escape hell...........while Lucifer doesn't make a presence at all on earth.

[DarthTrey]

Well it's weird to me that lesser demons can escape hell...........while Lucifer doesn't make a presence at all on earth.

isn't that what I just said? :confused:

Your point is escaping me.......

[Geese Pants]

Yes.....it was something I was thinking about since the 3rd season.
I guess it's the same.

[Septimus Prime]

The other thing is that the lesser demons don't even know Lucifer exists. He is a mythical god to them, so it wouldn't make sense for him to just be walking around Hell.

[Geese Pants]

^Was gonna mention that................damn demon chick locked with Dean was fine.

I read somewhere that the Season 3 DVD's have digital copies in them as well.........friggin tops if that is true.

[DarthTrey]

Was it ever explained what they demons wanted Human Souls for? When you make a deal with a demon and he takes your soul do you just go to hell or do you become a slave for that demon?

[4Play]

Episode was epic. Loved it. SO GOOD.

[Septimus Prime]

^Was gonna mention that................damn demon chick locked with Dean was fine.

I read somewhere that the Season 3 DVD's have digital copies in them as well.........friggin tops if that is true.
I wish they would release this on Blu-ray.

Was it ever explained what they demons wanted Human Souls for? When you make a deal with a demon and he takes your soul do you just go to hell or do you become a slave for that demon?
Not that I know of.

[Geese Pants]

I wish they would release this on Blu-ray.

If you can hold out until Novenber 11th.................thy wish shall be granted.
I'm waiting as well...........Amazon prices it at $55.95 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0017YDPI2?tag=tvshowsondvdcom&link_code=as3&creativeASIN=B0017YDPI2&creative=373489&camp=211189).

Though I may not get it since it will be unlikely Seasons 1 and 2 won't be on Bluray..........and that I may keep it on DVD forms.

[Septimus Prime]

I am extremely patient, so I'm going to pre-order that now. :rofl:

[maxx]

10 bucks says yellow eyes is building his human army to fight lucifer and god.

it seems kinda similar to babylon 5....but in a more fucked up way.

and can WE NOOOWW DISCUSS...the hotness of mama winchester aka buffy the vampire slayer?

[Geese Pants]

10 bucks says yellow eyes is building his human army to fight lucifer and god.

it seems kinda similar to babylon 5....but in a more fucked up way.

and can WE NOOOWW DISCUSS...the hotness of mama winchester aka buffy the vampire slayer?

I doubt Yellow Eyes is building anything now.........since he's "dead".

Pre-Milf and MILF Mary are hotnesses..............

[Vynce]

I'm under the impression that Lucifer isn't even free to roam hell. If he was, I don't think other demons would regard him as a fairy tale.

Another great episode, anyway. I've been waiting for Ruby to turn since shortly after she was introduced. Now, she's walking Sam down the very path Castiel is so concerned about.

[Wellman]

Was it ever explained what they demons wanted Human Souls for? When you make a deal with a demon and he takes your soul do you just go to hell or do you become a slave for that demon?

Pretty much you are sent to hell and eventually become a demon. That is how Ruby came to be but for some reason, she remembers her life as a human.


Also they explained that the human-demon kids were meant for Azarel's plan to release and eventually lead his demon army. Remember at the end of season 2, Sam got sent to the demon kid death match and the winner opened the demon gate?

[Vynce]

Pretty much you are sent to hell and eventually become a demon. That is how Ruby came to be but for some reason, she remembers her life as a human.


Also they explained that the human-demon kids were meant for Azarel's plan to release and eventually lead his demon army. Remember at the end of season 2, Sam got sent to the demon kid death match and the winner opened the demon gate?

Very true, but he wasn't just asking about those kids. He's wondering what the cross-roads demon hoped to gain by sicking hell hounds on those with whom it made deals with (sending them to hell, more generally). I'm not sure, myself. Although, if those people stand to become demons at some point, that's one more among their ranks.

[Kisame]

when demons and angels die they cease to exist.

Also I love time travel shows where no matter what you do leads to what already happened.

also reading the supernatural guide Azazel has one son who is dead....and one daughter alive who is unknown.


Seems like it's pretty much ruby.

[maxx]

I doubt Yellow Eyes is building anything now.........since he's "dead".

Pre-Milf and MILF Mary are hotnesses..............

well he's not building obviously cuz their all out and about but i do believe our demon bitch is a pawn to continue his work. dont be surprised if she's his daughter.

kisame is correct when demons and angels battled for supremacy of heaven those who died ceased to exist.

[Oni_Ryu]

Also I love time travel shows where no matter what you do leads to what already happened.


Word. Although I was expecting Dean to pull a Phillip J. Fry and become his own grandpa :rofl:

[maxx]

Word. Although I was expecting Dean to pull a Phillip J. Fry and become his own grandpa :rofl:

technically thats a lister move ala red dwarf.

[Oni_Ryu]

Interesting, i've never heard of that series before.

[maxx]

Interesting, i've never heard of that series before.

what?! omg...u need to get on ur british classics.

[Oni_Ryu]

I'll get right on that.

I did look at some of it on the wikipedia page. Didn't read much, but I came across the words 'dreadlock mullet'

That pretty much sold me.

[Septimus Prime]

when demons and angels die they cease to exist.
When/where does it say that? It's not that I don't believe you, but they've pretty much always banished demons back to Hell before actually killing them with the colt or the knife.

[maxx]

When/where does it say that? It's not that I don't believe you, but they've pretty much always banished demons back to Hell before actually killing them with the colt or the knife.

i think he meant theology its been a thing in christianity that the war lucifer caused between heaven and hell, demons and angels involved, those who died ceased to exist. but this is coming from sumtin i remember when i was 8.

[Kisame]

Before the knife and Colt all hunters could do is send them back to hell. They explained killing them they cease to exist which is why they fear dying.

[Vynce]

when demons and angels die they cease to exist.

Also I love time travel shows where no matter what you do leads to what already happened.

also reading the supernatural guide Azazel has one son who is dead....and one daughter alive who is unknown.


Seems like it's pretty much ruby.

Meg.

[Kisame]

Meg.

dammit I forgot all about her

[Vynce]

lol Understandable. She looked even worse without the boy hair cut.

[Wellman]

Tonight's episode was all kinds of... meh. The wife was hittable though but all the story bits were... meh. Jack the Cannibal reminded me of one of the monsters from the X-Files way back when.

Still don't like NuRuby and the whole scene at the beginning really felt off with the demon and then the big confrontation.

Had to be when Sam and Dean broke down the door to the apartment of the girl Jack the Cannibal was stalking only to find out he left her alone.


Next week looks much more promising.

[Geese Pants]

I missed the beginning of the episode..............but yeah, the episode was quite blah.

[Kisame]

seems so obvious he isn't done with the powers. Lacked a Castiel cameo. Every episode he has been in has been win.

[Lv.32 Z-Ism Rose]

Has Sam actually been doing Ruby on the side, or was that demon just talking some serious smack? I mean, in the last season, I would have most definitely said "no", but with Sam being a bit loopy now, I'm starting to wonder.....

[DarthTrey]

The entire episode directly translates to Sam's life.

They both have their "demons"(lol) and it's all about controlling them Granted Sam's isn't as extreme as the one bite and you're done rule but it still shows that something that starts off as "harmless" can lead to something that destroys innocent people.


I personally don't think he's done with his powers completely but I do believe he's going to stop for a while.

I was also thinking... If Ruby is in a new girls body and that girl is alive still and Sam is having sex with her with out her consent is Sam raping a possessed girl?


Has Sam actually been doing Ruby on the side, or was that demon just talking some serious smack? I mean, in the last season, I would have most definitely said "no", but with Sam being a bit loopy now, I'm starting to wonder.....


yes..... The first episode when she answers the door in her undies and sam is getting dressed was kinda obvious....

[Kisame]

I was also thinking... If Ruby is in a new girls body and that girl is alive still and Sam is having sex with her with out her consent is Sam raping a possessed girl?

yes he is. He better hope dean doesn't find out as Sam wasn't there when the other girl mentioned how the victims are still their when possessed.

[maxx]

yes he is. He better hope dean doesn't find out as Sam wasn't there when the other girl mentioned how the victims are still their when possessed.

thats why god is really pissed lol..he's just raping this poor girl over and over.

[Wellman]

yes he is. He better hope dean doesn't find out as Sam wasn't there when the other girl mentioned how the victims are still their when possessed.

The ghost of the girl we call Meg told Dean though how she was still there while the demon went about doing its business and killing folk. So both brother know, although they didn't mention it much this episode.

[wrecKREATiON]

next week's episode looks pretty promising. This week was just a metaphor of sorts about Sam's current "problem". Wellman is on point with the best part of the episode though haha

[ChairHome]

Yeah, next week's episode (the homage to Universal Movie monsters that was talked about by one of the producers in a previous interview) looks like it'll be fun. She said it was going to be almost entirely in black and white.

[Vynce]

There's not much we know about Ruby's current body. I doubt Sam would be just fine with her just taking someone's body, and then tagging it over and over...

Well, on one very real level, he'd be fine with it. If it ever does come up, which it should, I imagine we'll discover her host was some brain-dead vegetable.

[Kisame]

There's not much we know about Ruby's current body. I doubt Sam would be just fine with her just taking someone's body, and then tagging it over and over...

Well, on one very real level, he'd be fine with it. If it ever does come up, which it should, I imagine we'll discover her host was some brain-dead vegetable.

That's even more immoral.

not to mention laying in bed develops all kinds of stuff like bed sores and muscle apathy. I realllly doubt thats the case. Especially since she is a demon who got removed from her other body. I doubt she would look for some braindead girl.

She isn't pure at all otherwise she wouldn't have been in hell in the first place.

Sam is heading down a terrible road and is too blind to see it.

Dean should have killed ruby though. He is protected by god right now. There was nothing she could have done to him.

[Vynce]

That's even more immoral.

not to mention laying in bed develops all kinds of stuff like bed sores and muscle apathy. I realllly doubt thats the case. Especially since she is a demon who got removed from her other body. I doubt she would look for some braindead girl.

She isn't pure at all otherwise she wouldn't have been in hell in the first place.

Sam is heading down a terrible road and is too blind to see it.

I disagree. With the morality and the condition of the body being a big factor, that is. Remember those that die after demons have left them. Do we know if taking a corpse is an option?

However, I do agree that Ruby is evil. Sam isn't, though. He'd have to be okay with whatever she told him.

[Kisame]

Do we know if taking a corpse is an option?

We have never seen them take a corpse however yellow eyes killed the body after he was in it.


Plus I doubt Sam would fuck a corpse. Demon possessing it wouldn't restore the bodily functions.

[Vynce]

We have never seen them take a corpse however yellow eyes killed the body after he was in it.


Plus I doubt Sam would fuck a corpse. Demon possessing it wouldn't restore the bodily functions.

I was thinking that, too. Whatever he's doing is immoral, though. Good for him :tup:!

[Valaris]

Just picked up the first season on dvd so I'll be slowly catching up.

[ShinkuuR]

This ep was genius! :lol:

*looks for pizza coupons*

[Geese Pants]

Episode was great.........black and white was an added plus.
And of course.......the show displays the hotness.

[Million]

that killed me...the whole Dracula thing. It's funny how it goes from that scene to a bit where he has to deal with the pizza dude...even dramatically walking to the door in full costume...."Hold on...I have a coupon. Hilarious :rofl:

[Lv.32 Z-Ism Rose]

Great episode!! Very light hearted, too. A nice change of pace. Dean was in great form, too!

[jimmy1200]

ha ha, im on west coast time, so im watchin it now. ya bow got his ear ripped off and dipped on a moped. LOL!!!!!!!!!!! dyin off that:rofl: