So is SRK Taking DefJam: Icon Seriously? [Archive]

Son Them All

02-17-2007, 02:02 AM

I've been a fan of what EA has done with the Def Jam IP so far. Vendetta was cool, but the animation seemed too cartoony and too much focus on wrestling. But with FFNY everything was better. Story was epic. Mechanics shyed away from wrestling and shit just got more brutal. I finished that shit like "Damn, I need a sequel to this now".

Enter DefJam: Icon

EA Chicago (Fight Night) is now doing the project in place of Aki, and the homeless looking Kudo Tsunoda is at the helm. What's his big idea? To almost do away with the wrestling and make this DefJam a true fighting game where the idea is to hit your opponents to the beat of the music that is playing in the background and hit them into the environment that is interactive and working condusive to the beat as well. Interesting concept, but I wouldn't figure a game like that would be very competitve.

So do ya'll think that Icon can be seen as a legit, competitive fighting game or will it just be some ole lightweight party style shit that'll never see a tournament.

About The Environment (http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=16871&type=wmv&pl=game)

About DJ Controls (http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=16796&type=wmv&pl=game)

Directional Attacks (game's main focus) (http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=16728&type=wmv&pl=game)

Looks like a really promising game from a franchise that has already delivered. Plus I just can't resist the urge to knock the living shit out of Jim Jones...BALLIN.

G.O.T

02-17-2007, 03:03 AM

*Hiss*

1/2Man1/2God

02-17-2007, 03:50 AM

Iunno if SRK is gonna take this one seriously as far as playing this competively and tournament wise.It just doesn't seem like the sot of game that would be played in that fashion.It's more of a gimmicky smash bros.type game.I think it's gonna be a good game though.It looks great...but so did the trailer for Xmen 3 and that sucked so we'll see.

Superking

02-17-2007, 02:13 PM

No Aki results in Def Jam becoming a shitty franchise.

Doesn't matter anyway since Aki could care less now that they work on the KMGP series. :tup:

SaBrE

02-17-2007, 02:30 PM

1/2Man1/2God

02-17-2007, 02:37 PM

the icon demo plays kinda similar to fight night 3. but its not even a fighting game in the traditional sense. its interesting, but its more like a boxing game. its hella fucking slow and floaty too, like fn3. not for me

DAMNIT...the trailer looked reallly good.I guess it's one of those things where the trailer is amazing and the game is shit.

axeman61

02-17-2007, 05:51 PM

What trailer? The one with Anthony Anderson? Yeah, that looks good.
You can look for vids of the demo being played on youtube. The latest vids on the game have been showing a slightly faster speed.
But Blazin' moves are out. I'm interested in this game, but it doesn't look like it'll measure up to FFNY.
And to SaBrE: Did you learn all of the controls? All around the net, I've been reading responses to the demo that said they had to grip the controls to get into the game.
I was going to make an official topic on this game, but since this is already here, I guess I can answer questions or something if you guys have them. Just not some shit I can't answer, since I'm not on the development team.

1/2Man1/2God

02-17-2007, 05:54 PM

Son Them All

02-17-2007, 06:00 PM

I believe that was Luda vs. Redman.

When I thought ALL over the top throws were out I was kind of bummed. The thing I liked most about FFNY was the fact that the Blaze moves were hella inventive and looked like they really hurt. I was KIND of satisfied when I found out there is still a traditional throw mechanic that is based on the specific style. Speaking of styles apparently you can choose from Streetfighting, Brawling, Tae Kwon Do, Kung Fu, Kickboxing, and Capoeira. <<<<Capoeira?? hmmm

axeman61

02-17-2007, 07:22 PM

Don't know if anyone knows this, but you can bring your own songs to your X360 hard drive. The game will apply whatever it does to that song and you can use it in battle.
PS3 is an uncertainty for this feature.

Xorcist

02-21-2007, 10:00 AM

OMG! Now I finally have a use for my soundtrack of PeeWee's Big Adventure!

SuicidalGrandpa

02-21-2007, 10:18 AM

It'll be fun, but it's definetely not going to be somethin' SRK will pick up.

Gojira

02-21-2007, 10:23 AM

No Aki = that shitty Marvel game quality... you know the one

BTW, what's KMGP?

Bowling Pin

02-21-2007, 10:40 AM

No Aki = that shitty Marvel game quality... you know the one

BTW, what's KMGP?

Kinnikuman Grand Prix.

Gimpy

02-21-2007, 10:43 AM

Yeah Aki did a good job making FFNY. I hope they have character edit. And it lookslike they got TI in the game...oh I can't wait to fuck him up. :lol:

axeman61

02-21-2007, 11:59 AM

Game Informer gave DJI a 7.75. They said the gameplay tries to blend fighting with music, with "mixed results." The controls are a bit sloppy, but apparently the single player modes and the presentation of the game are great.

And yes, character creation is in. Sadly, Blazin's are out :sad: (http://features.operationsports.com/features.aspx?game=defjamiconint)

-=KOH=-

02-21-2007, 12:38 PM

I think of the reasons this game isn't going to get a huge amount of attention, is definitely because not everyone is into rap and hiphop music.
But I don't know I'd try it.

xero15

02-21-2007, 01:07 PM

i like the ideas behind it but i think they are tryin to wrap everything around the music which may in turn actually hamper what they are tryin to accomplish. if i do go ahead and get a 360 i will pick this up though.

Festival6667

02-22-2007, 07:24 AM

Yeah Aki did a good job making FFNY. I hope they have character edit. And it lookslike they got TI in the game...oh I can't wait to fuck him up. :lol:Except that everything that was good in the engine ended up in KMGP whereas everything I see of Icon is an interesting concept with crappy implementation.

But i don't even care anymore I just switched from FFNY to KMGP and that's it. In fact I don't even play VF4evo anymore. KMGP pwns 3D fighting and wrestling, period.

Geese Pants

02-22-2007, 08:06 AM

FFNY was fun to play...............Icon looks boring gameplay wise.

SyAdicate

02-22-2007, 08:08 AM

defjam < Mortal Kombat 1

Geese Pants

02-22-2007, 08:18 AM

Me: How they going to destroy Recoom City without showing Leon or Claire :confused:

Hollywood: Who is leon and claire?Damn is it to let to go back?No wait we blew up the city already,Sorry we always fuck up.

Ummm..........wrong thread?

SyAdicate

02-22-2007, 08:26 AM

fixed baby! :tup:

AcEtUrNeDjOkEr

02-22-2007, 08:35 AM

Played the demo, and honestly, I am not too impressed. The controls seemed REAL laggy and the gameplay was a bit slow. My boy said in recent video the games looks faster. I am not going to be as ignorant as some people hear and say "without AKI DJ:I is going to be wack", I will give it a honest try when the real game comes out, but as of now, I hope they speed up the tempo.

Stuckey

02-22-2007, 09:07 AM

It'll be interesting. As long as Ghostface is still in (and now 40 water!), i'm down to try it. The demo is decent IMO, but FFNY will end up still being the best of the series from what I can tell.

LimeGreenPatato

02-22-2007, 10:20 AM

who the fuck plays these games.

Hunter D

02-22-2007, 10:47 AM

FFNY was good. The demo for this game wasn't. I see some promise in it, but EA has to fix the control setup, control response, and tweak the gameplay.

Grits'N'Gravy

02-22-2007, 02:57 PM

I don't care if it's a good game or not,

I just can't wait to have Paul Wall beat the shit out of Jeezy and whoever else shitty rapper gets in it.

xero15

02-22-2007, 03:00 PM

i like that av GnG

SCOTT POPULAR

02-22-2007, 08:54 PM

I don't care if it's a good game or not,

I just can't wait to have Paul Wall beat the shit out of Jeezy and whoever else shitty rapper gets in it.

Your avatar is fire and it makes me want some Ol' E!:rofl:

FFNY's story was FTW! Seriously, I was not expecting it to pan out as good as it did?!

I'm wondering if you can create a female character this time around?

Fat Joe was fucked up EA! Seriously FUCKED UP!

CoMpOuNd

02-22-2007, 09:02 PM

I'm wondering if you can create a female character this time around?

If so, you'll be seeing some serious booby punching action...

word

Son Them All

02-22-2007, 09:08 PM

Your avatar is fire and it makes me want some Ol' E!:rofl:

FFNY's story was FTW! Seriously, I was not expecting it to pan out as good as it did?!

Man...forreal. What I really want to see is a continuation of that story. At the very LEAST Dmobb needs to show up again. That story was VERY well written and well acted out. I'm hopin for an encore.

Edit: I could have SWORE I put this in fighting game discussion. Was it moved or am I going crazy?

Wellman

02-22-2007, 09:51 PM

It was moved.

All I hope for is that it isn't anything similar to Marvel Nemesis.

Sacr3D

02-22-2007, 09:55 PM

Man, no blazing , no wrestling moves = big dissapointement

CoMpOuNd

02-22-2007, 09:58 PM

Does SRK take anything seriously?

word.

Grits'N'Gravy

02-22-2007, 11:41 PM

Your avatar is fire and it makes me want some Ol' E!:rofl:

FFNY's story was FTW! Seriously, I was not expecting it to pan out as good as it did?!

I'm wondering if you can create a female character this time around?

Fat Joe was fucked up EA! Seriously FUCKED UP!

Thanks for the comments on the av, all Shatterstar's doing... I just wanted him to put Dudley and OE together as my weekend plans go like 1) drink 40 (or two), 2) Play Dudley
I seem to always want some OE...

Anyway yeah the story for FFNY was great... Snoop made for such an awesome villain and the whole Sticky Fingaz betrayal thing was perfect.

I liked Fat Joe as a character, I had an honest sense of dread going into that matchup cause it's 1) Cage match, 2) Mad hype, 3) His stats are ridiculous. I got my ass kicked atleast 3 times before I beat him. He's the best teammate for the end of the game free for alls though. Fat Joe was so broken, he has a piledriver, one of the best Blazins, Goldberg's Jackhammer and the FUCKING PEDIGREE. Come on!

The quotes in game was so good too, my friends and I made a catchphrase about BoneCrusher's "You will be destroyed, You WILL BE... DESTROYED *bitch laugh*"

Gimpy

02-23-2007, 06:25 AM

Thanks for the comments on the av, all Shatterstar's doing... I just wanted him to put Dudley and OE together as my weekend plans go like 1) drink 40 (or two), 2) Play Dudley
I seem to always want some OE...

Anyway yeah the story for FFNY was great... Snoop made for such an awesome villain and the whole Sticky Fingaz betrayal thing was perfect.

I liked Fat Joe as a character, I had an honest sense of dread going into that matchup cause it's 1) Cage match, 2) Mad hype, 3) His stats are ridiculous. I got my ass kicked atleast 3 times before I beat him. He's the best teammate for the end of the game free for alls though. Fat Joe was so broken, he has a piledriver, one of the best Blazins, Goldberg's Jackhammer and the FUCKING PEDIGREE. Come on!

The quotes in game was so good too, my friends and I made a catchphrase about BoneCrusher's "You will be destroyed, You WILL BE... DESTROYED *bitch laugh*"

Fat Joe was no match for my character edit. :rofl:

Million

02-23-2007, 06:33 AM

hmm...character creation! Well that immediately caught my attention of course. I hope the gameplay is at least decent, because that's the last factor for this to be a must-have for me. I'll try the demo later today then...I've gone all this time without downloading it, purely out of laziness...and being too busy with PSU and the arcade games.

Character creation is my love....it is my passion. It will be cool to beat people's ass to the McDonald's Menu Song, Naruto music, random tv show themes, etc. as well.

jae hoon

02-23-2007, 07:20 AM

Jr7891

02-23-2007, 09:03 AM

Icon fucking sucks, whether you compare it to FFNY, Fight Night, or anything else.

The only people that will take this shit seriously are the "urban" demnographic and the dumbasses who automatically consider this a good game just because of previous titles.

axeman61

02-23-2007, 02:50 PM

Having played the first two Def Jam games I was looking foward to this until the demo. Man that demo wasnt to go. The background got on my nerves, the controls arent very responsive and the fighting system still needed work.

Sadly, the only thing to say to that is the controls should be more responsive in the final build. There are other backgrounds with other hazards, but they seem to interfere with the fight just as much as the gas station does. Also, blazin's are confirmed to be out and most of the styles show a little similarity, even in the faster videos coming out.

Unreallystic

02-26-2007, 08:04 AM

1. Fat Joe sucked, he was too slow to be a problem, speed jabs will fuck hiom up QUICK, can't grapple if your getting punched in the face *_*
2. I'm not happy with the trailer stuff I saw. I'm in the process of saving up for 360 and this game was one of the reasons, but after watching what they did to my FFNY, I'm EXTREMLY disappointed. 'it looks pretty' and has some more folks in it, but the cast doesn't seem nearly as diverse, still doens't have Hov or Ja Rule, I doubt Character edit will be any better than the shitty one in the last game where I had to sit there for ten mintues to 'try' and make a character look right in the face, and the combat engine was just bleh from what I saw...looked like a souped up Pit fighter.

XBox 360 game list just shrunk to two games *Rainbow6 and Dead rising*
- :bluu:

Shibuya

02-26-2007, 08:08 AM

i did like def jam 1 and 2....cause it played like WWF games on the N64....but this new one is kinda weird (going off the demo play)....i dont know if i can get into it

Ki Shima

02-26-2007, 08:23 AM

i thought the game was fucked up first and second time playing the demo, but when i played it again a few days later i really started to like the background alot, you really can make a mini music video out of it....kinda

my friends are getting it so i dont care :rofl:

Stuckey

02-26-2007, 07:02 PM

Mr. Starks will beat ass online. Ghostface was a beast on the first 2 games. They better not nerf him this time.

kev_the_bev

02-26-2007, 07:31 PM

This game looks horrible. FFNY was GOAT however.

Ghostface Killah still better be in.

Bounce

02-26-2007, 08:16 PM

never really took the def jam series seriously- its a wrestling game so its button mashing and timing even at the higher levels. but it was still fun to play.

but now with the guys who did fn3, im not really looking forward to it:
1- it doesnt look like they are continuing the story (a reason i liked the games)
2- no blazin (another reason for liking the game)
3- fighting system looks sluggish and repetitive, a big turn off in fighters

Stuckey

02-26-2007, 08:57 PM

Ghostface Killah still better be in.

Hell yeah. He's still in. That's why I have to buy it whether it sucks or not. Pretty Toney will not be defeated.

OmNiExiZt

02-26-2007, 09:26 PM

I hated Vendetta. I really loved Fight For New York. I hope this next one is going to be as good or better. I'm hoping for a deeper character customization as well as a deeper more elaborate fighting system. There were just some styles that you couldn't make.

*ONEZ*

Stuckey

03-03-2007, 02:14 PM

Just watched some footage of Ghostface in action. He got his ass whooped profusely by T.I. :(

That son of a bitch will pay when I pick this game up.

SCOTT POPULAR

03-19-2007, 10:16 PM

Just watched some footage of Ghostface in action. He got his ass whooped profusely by T.I. :(

That son of a bitch will pay when I pick this game up.

Theodore!!!!! Yeah I play with GFK too! But they gave it 8.1 on gamespot somehow. (Baffling....:looney: ) But what interest me about the review is the last thing he posted....

But there's much more to Def Jam: Icon than its gameplay. The way it handles the rappers and the way its story mode plays out make it a must for hip-hop fans...unless you're still waiting for some sort of Lupe Fiasco/Common backpacking simulator.

Backpacking Simulator, make it a action/rpg/sim and I'm on it!

Gimpy

03-20-2007, 05:19 AM

This game fuckin' sucks!!!!!!!!!!!! They should have left well enough alone. I would have loved to see what Aki could have done with DJ on the 360.

Xero Kaiser

03-20-2007, 05:44 AM

Yeah, I was going to buy this game, but then I stopped and thought about just how much they took out from the past games.

No more blazing moves.
No more ground grapples
No more wearing out specific body parts
No more weapons
No more crowd interaction
No more strong/weak/front/back grapples or irish whips
No more running or running attacks
No more tag team or tag team attacks
No more 4-man fights

Did they think the DJ stratching thing was a good substitute for all of that? One step foward (graphics) and god-knows-how-many steps back (everything else). And I think I liked the story better when it was about underground fighting arenas and not you beating up people for record deals.

axeman61

03-20-2007, 05:15 PM

You guys have points (though I haven't played the game, I've seen plenty post-release videos). I'd probably like the game if I played it, but they did take out a lot of the fun stuff.
I wonder what happened between EA and AKI. I don't think a big company like EA would willingly sacrifice a winning formula just because Kudo Tsunoda had a brainstorm. Well, unless the cost of production for an in-house game is that much cheaper.

jae hoon

03-20-2007, 06:41 PM

In House is that much cheaper, it was all about EA being money grubbing bitches they are and not wanting to spend money on a quality product. Especially when then can make a half assed attempt like they usually do for half the cost and have their usual trogladites who buy everything that says EA on it make them money.

AcEtUrNeDjOkEr

03-20-2007, 07:01 PM

MrBlank

03-20-2007, 08:12 PM

Fuck icon fuck icon fuckity FUCK ICON...

if i wanted a game that played like fight night i would play say it with me folks "Fight Night"

I liked it better when it was like a wrestling brawler esque game. Now i gotta "Push" people in the background to the music... WTF Homodickless shit is that...

oh the bass is about to hit lemme shove him into a carwash... WACK!

No more Finishers, The stupid DJ mechanic is retarded, everyone is fucking slow and WHERE THE FUCK IS 4 PLAYERS....

done... with why i hate it

The Graphics are fucking top notch though, they really out did them selfs in making them look just liker their real life counter parts, i also enjoy the soundtrack, i like the producer recruiting recording idea ...

The GAMEPLAY is SHIT... its so watered the fuck down if you learned 1 character you learned them all.....

other then that fuck it... i hate this shit....