View Full Version : Looking for MvC2 combo people...
Magnetro
02-19-2007, 02:36 AM
Quick question to everyone who reads this, are there any other MvC2 combo people here besides me and like 3 other people? I don't expect anything from this really, I'm just wondering if it's me and the other 3 people.
Mystic_bash
02-19-2007, 03:03 AM
It depends on what you mean by "Combo people"
Magnetro
02-19-2007, 04:16 AM
Someone who is interested in combos or situations like the ones in the Meikyousisui series. It's just a different aspect of the game.
greeneggs&ham
02-19-2007, 07:14 AM
Who are the 3 other people? I think mvc2 combo videos are dead.I havent seen any new ones in 4ever.To tell the truth I think you and joo are the last hope for mvc2 combovideos,No else come out with videos these days.
Magnetro
02-19-2007, 08:11 AM
Well Jadon is uh, MIA IIRC. The other two are MikeZ - very busy and I think he gave his capture card to Thongboy Bebop........ The other is some new guy no one knows =/
Yes me and Joo are the only current ones right now. Joo is still going strong, he just doesn't make a lot of public videos... but just like rage, it's building up...
Anyway, anyone?
b1gazn
02-19-2007, 08:39 AM
There arent that many people who puts the time into quality and editing, that is why you and Joo are so elite in the "combo video" aspect.
The last person who doesnt make videos, post anymore, was Commy.
the only person I can think of that still does videos, not really intended for quality or editing, is Blue Jay featuring Yipes.
Demon Dash
02-19-2007, 08:44 AM
You forgetting DS?
I play Marvel pretty much every day, although I don't have a capture card and no where near experienced enough to do things that haven't been seen...
greeneggs&ham
02-19-2007, 10:20 AM
Oh i get it.Getting at least 4 people in the US to make a Meikyousisui type series.Any idea what you will call yourselves?That would be tight.
I can see Magnetro,Ekin,Mike Z, and Yipes doing a series.
Magnetro
02-19-2007, 10:24 AM
lol... MikeZ is too busy to make any thing usually. ekin told me he doesn't play marvel anymore and yipes isn't into those kinds of combos, just things that are possible in a match (storm video/his trailer thing)
I dont know what we'd call ourselves (if there was some kind of group) I THINK meikyousisui = as serene as a polished mirror and still water... So I don't have anything that can possibly top that :rofl:
MMDS is too broken. Litteraley
VEGA_OMEGA
02-19-2007, 01:15 PM
The other is some new guy no one knows =/
Why you little punk.
Pryde
02-19-2007, 01:33 PM
well, i've always been interested in combos that involved T.I.A.s (Throws into assists). The wonders you can do with these, though it may not be fancy like the ones Joo does, it's still something that'll open up possibilities to other people, though many people may not be interested in silly combos that doesn't involve "Top Tier" characters, I feel it's a project worth taking on.
Draeger
02-19-2007, 01:37 PM
lol... MikeZ is too busy to make any thing usually. ekin told me he doesn't play marvel anymore and yipes isn't into those kinds of combos, just things that are possible in a match (storm video/his trailer thing)
I dont know what we'd call ourselves (if there was some kind of group) I THINK meikyousisui = as serene as a polished mirror and still water... So I don't have anything that can possibly top that :rofl:
MMDS is too broken. Litteraley
Do not forget about the Dragonforce-esque and Rock Opera music.
WE ARE~~~ THE ONES THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCEEE!!
Magnetro
02-19-2007, 01:39 PM
Why you little punk.
:lovin:
well, i've always been interested in combos that involved T.I.A.s (Throws into assists). The wonders you can do with these, though it may not be fancy like the ones Joo does, it's still something that'll open up possibilities to other people, though many people may not be interested in silly combos that doesn't involve "Top Tier" characters, I feel it's a project worth taking on.
So you're just interested in things with TIA...and not fancy ones? Just technical or something? I also don't remember joo doing TIA's unless you count Vol10's Anakaris-Jin combo. What do you mean it's a project worth taking on?
DrumlinerJoe
02-19-2007, 01:46 PM
It would be nice to see some practical combos. The crazy glitch and way out there combos with like Roll/Dan/Zangief were okay at first, but no one's ever gonna use them. Some stuff with lower tier characters who can still compete like Dhalsim/Ruby/Megaman/Rogue/Cammy would be cool just to see what they can do.
Demon Dash
02-19-2007, 01:57 PM
It would be nice to see some practical combos. The crazy glitch and way out there combos with like Roll/Dan/Zangief were okay at first, but no one's ever gonna use them. Some stuff with lower tier characters who can still compete like Dhalsim/Ruby/Megaman/Rogue/Cammy would be cool just to see what they can do.
I quite like those kinds of combos because you actually will never see them. Combo videos like that aren't trying to demonstrate the character's potential, but more exposing the broken ass piece of crap Capcom made. It's interesting I think to see how deep the game really goes, even if it's beyond strategic comprehention.
demiSe
02-19-2007, 01:57 PM
magnetron can get a 100 ppl w/ 500 program pads together but he'll still never be able to outdo megamandan when it comes to combo vids
sry just give it up
Pryde
02-19-2007, 02:11 PM
:lovin:
So you're just interested in things with TIA...and not fancy ones? Just technical or something? I also don't remember joo doing TIA's unless you count Vol10's Anakaris-Jin combo. What do you mean it's a project worth taking on?
I mean some of us know some of the basic ones, such as Storm Fierce Throw into Sentinel Drones then you can follow it up with a damaging combos.
There are some fancy ones that people just don't know about. Or have never seen before. Like I said, who out there would like to say Spider-Man throw into tyhpoons into a combo? Given that it just a bread and butter combo, but hey it works. Or how about Cammy kick throw into Storm Typhoons into a super? That is one of my favorite combos, given it seems so basic, yet it's so nice to see. There are so many possibilities out there, given it's nothing like an infinite or like 99 hit combo, it's something worth looking into.
I do have thread in the mvc2 section that lists what you can do what you can not. The list isn't completed, since there was a lack of interest in it. But if you want, we can always chat or something on aim and perhaps I can give some ideas.
Here's the link to the thread
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=20237
greeneggs&ham
02-19-2007, 03:31 PM
magnetron can get a 100 ppl w/ 500 program pads together but he'll still never be able to outdo megamandan when it comes to combo vids
sry just give it up
i never seen a megaman dan vid,or even heard off him. :confused:
post combo vid if u can
eidrian
02-19-2007, 11:09 PM
Deric Bogus.
Japs are cooking, and i'm the chef.
Dander
02-20-2007, 03:34 AM
I'm really good at combo videos.
I'm making this video where cyke's normals beat the shit out of random high priority supers.
fuck yeah, not really a combo video thing, but like you said, a different way to look at the game.
Magnetro
02-20-2007, 08:31 AM
magnetron can get a 100 ppl w/ 500 program pads together but he'll still never be able to outdo megamandan when it comes to combo vids
sry just give it up
We should stop making fun of MMDS 'cause he might lose it and try to stab me or something...but because of his 'condition' he'll end up stabbing himself :sad:
*snip*
Alright.
i never seen a megaman dan vid,or even heard off him. :confused:
post combo vid if u can
...
Japs are cooking, and i'm the chef.
I don't trust your water.
I'm looking for people that know the game inside-out. I don't want to post a long explanation of what exactly I'm looking for =/. Just think of the combo video I did and the one's joo's done (-vol11 cause that was bad :rofl: ) I know I'm searching in the wrong place since this is a competitive fighting game website and not just a combo place, but it's the only good forum around =/
:sweat:
KinanO
02-20-2007, 09:38 AM
Just think of the combo video I did and the one's joo's done (-vol11 cause that was bad :rofl: )
Are you fogetting that you and joo are the only ones that uses programming pads?Other combo video creators don't. :wonder: Don't get me wrong you and joo videos are great,but I seen other impressive combos also.
And don't get me wrong about the other creators,I saw some videos that was done without programed combos,and its scray to see what they could do if they had a progamming pad. :sweat:
Theres more then enough potential on srk,it's just are the other creators up for this?
PS: I woud like to see this thing happen to.
Magnetro
02-20-2007, 10:47 AM
No, hehe. There is a thread for getting programmable controllers...So if there are any people with good ideas for combos it's possible to get your hands on a program pad. Hopefully there are some other people that have interesting ideas and make the most out of them with a programmable controller. ^_^.
A good idea is a good idea, it doesn't have to be nearly impossible to do by hand to be impressive! A program pad(s) just amplify the idea.
totaltoanage
02-20-2007, 11:04 AM
program pads are for combos that are never done in a real match, i think everyone including yipes feels the combo videos are pointless and just funny to watch. i dont know about anyone here but i only like to watch something that is useful and i could use. now glitch videos on the other hand is mad tight, i wouldnt mind watching dozens of glitch videos and how to do it, this is why the game is soo fun to play, its like the fighting game is in the matrix realm.
BTW: marvel will never cease to amaze me, for a game to be this old and always coming up with some new shit is just priceless, imma get a mss tattoo on my back.
Magnetro
02-20-2007, 11:28 AM
Obviously. Combos in a match and combos with program pads/non-useful are different. I'm wondering if there are any people interested in the latter,
Like I said this isn't the best place to ask about combo stuff but its the only one, AMIRITE?
:rofl:
MegamanDS
02-20-2007, 11:37 AM
You forgetting DS?
He didn't forget... no one can forget. *+ reps demon dash*
MMDS is too broken. Litteraley
ill take that as a compliment even though im sure it wasn't. i got new storm IM stuff if you ever unblock me from AIM. also, got some low tier stupid things.
magnetro can get a 100 ppl w/ 500 program pads together but he'll still never be able to outdo megamandan when it comes to combo vids
*+ reps demiSe*
team beast vol. 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LL4tZfJbOk)
team beast vol. 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2xsGFNPXsc) ... your demise has nothing on the megads sent combo
one day my sent will exceed yours. i have been playing sent + red bull
Like I said this isn't the best place to ask about combo stuff but its the only one, RIGHT?
:
thank you for not saying "AMIRITE?!?"
i probably wouldve thrown my dc against the wall
edit: im glad my name came up in this thread before i came in. shows the true love of srk
gouki10
02-20-2007, 11:42 AM
i think it would also be nice to put a thread for input on combos that might be worthy to put in a video from people that don't have the resources need to make a video, or the knowledge.
MegamanDS
02-20-2007, 11:51 AM
i think it would also be nice to put a thread for input on combos that might be worthy to put in a video from people that don't have the resources need to make a video, or the knowledge.
http://forums.shoryuken.com/forumdisplay.php?f=128
KinanO
02-20-2007, 01:19 PM
i think everyone including yipes feels the combo videos are pointless and just funny to watch. i dont know about anyone here but i only like to watch something that is useful and i could use..
Not trying to be mean,but speak for yourself.Watching matches of top tiers are just plain boring nothing new.Thats the downfall of marvel today because it just got played out,from watching the same old thing, magneto, storm ,cable,ironman,doom,cyc or whatever. Combovideos show the meaning of skill and effort to show to the community and sorry to say more creative then same O ,same, O ,Switch GLitch,snapout,infinite,reset,gaurd break,build meter,SUper thats in every match . Most people I know dont even watch matches anymore,we stop watching like a year ago,because the Same O ,Same O,with a little reset here and there.You will never see nothing new in matches,then you will in a combovideo.just my 2 cents.
gouki10
02-20-2007, 01:30 PM
http://forums.shoryuken.com/forumdisplay.php?f=128
Umm ok i guess you thought i meant mag combos
but what im talking about is a thread where people could discuss combos, setups, glitchs, etc. that they think would be nice to see in a video that noone has done before by a bunch of characters and such.
like lets say there's a amazing strider player out there that knows resets and setups that make strider seem godly, but can't show it to by any other means than just doing it infront of them.
i think a thread like this would help the project alot because then the video makers will have ideas from other people, and not just themselves along with maybe new knowledge that people have found that they didn't know.
i myself have one or two little interesting combos with all four top tiers, and mids that i think are interesting to show off.
the whole point would be simply for ideas, and thoughts on what would be good for the video/videos.
at the end of the day it would still be up to the video makers to actually put it in a video, so it's not like anything would be lost by the thread.
just my 2 cents (where did that term come from anyway?)
SyAdicate
02-20-2007, 01:45 PM
Did Deric Bogus and DJB-13 stop making videos? :confused:
Digitalbooty
02-20-2007, 01:45 PM
I heard the Sim DVD was SICK!! Is that still available anywhere?
The type of combo videos I think Magnetro is talking about are exhibition videos. There are some combo videos that can show you stuff to do with characters in matches, but Joo and Magnetro's shit is for entertainment. If you're a fan of the game, I don't see how you wouldn't enjoy watching them. I may be going a little bit overboard here, but they're pretty much works of art. I think they're meant to be admired and not so much emulated (learned from.)
Magnetro
02-20-2007, 01:54 PM
Umm ok i guess you thought i meant mag combos
but what im talking about is a thread where people could discuss combos, setups, glitchs, etc. that they think would be nice to see in a video that noone has done before by a bunch of characters and such.
like lets say there's a amazing strider player out there that knows resets and setups that make strider seem godly, but can't show it to by any other means than just doing it infront of them.
i think a thread like this would help the project alot because then the video makers will have ideas from other people, and not just themselves along with maybe new knowledge that people have found that they didn't know.
i myself have one or two little interesting combos with all four top tiers, and mids that i think are interesting to show off.
the whole point would be simply for ideas, and thoughts on what would be good for the video/videos.
at the end of the day it would still be up to the video makers to actually put it in a video, so it's not like anything would be lost by the thread.
just my 2 cents (where did that term come from anyway?)
That's kind of how they have it in Japan, usually one group of people or person (but usually group) create videos for their respective games, in the case of MvC2, it's Meikyousisui. From info I get from joo and others, it's really safe to say that joo is the person that all the other Japaneses give their ideas to. It's like this for other things to (they share everything and we don't) So that would be an interesting idea but if someone posts it on SRK then everyone can read it...
gouki10
02-20-2007, 02:09 PM
........good point, that would give away info and the vids would lose excitment
PM's maybe? i know the limit to how much info can be sent through there is limited.
Aim would also be a good choice as well.
i was wondering if it's too hard to get any new info out of the game, then what about a highlight video of every character in the game doing things that make them interesting like combos, resets, setups, glitchs, etc.
(funny im talking about a video as if im a contributer or if im actually apart of the thing when so far nothing has been discussed.)
the main thing that i c would be getting things recorded, and encoded(i don't know what im talking about so if anyone could help me), and also getting ideas out for what would be nice to see.
but as far as making a video....i can't help you with any of the actually recording, and set up of it. sorry:sad:
totaltoanage
02-20-2007, 03:56 PM
Not trying to be mean,but speak for yourself.Watching matches of top tiers are just plain boring nothing new.Thats the downfall of marvel today because it just got played out,from watching the same old thing, magneto, storm ,cable,ironman,doom,cyc or whatever. Combovideos show the meaning of skill and effort to show to the community and sorry to say more creative then same O ,same, O ,Switch GLitch,snapout,infinite,reset,gaurd break,build meter,SUper thats in every match . Most people I know dont even watch matches anymore,we stop watching like a year ago,because the Same O ,Same O,with a little reset here and there.You will never see nothing new in matches,then you will in a combovideo.just my 2 cents.
On the contrary, wouldnt making combo videos be boring? I mean they take forever to make and probably an hour to do a single combo chain, wheres the perfect execution in that? Match videos bestow high level play with perfect execution. Its not played out you just suck. Ppl who suck cannot distinguish boring shit and top level play bc they see that alot in match videos but to veterans, everything is scrutinized.
omg i cant believe you said combo videos show the meaning of skill and effort. I will guarantee you that most if not all combo makers will die effortlessly to vets in a heart beat. There are tons of new stuff going on in match videos, just watch sanford or wong.
Your friends dont watch match videos bc you and them all suck, literally and physically. you guys are no good. its like saying 3s ppl only watch combo vids and not match vids. you see the logic in that?
KinanO
02-20-2007, 04:20 PM
:confused: On the contrary, wouldnt making combo videos be boring? I mean they take forever to make and probably an hour to do a single combo chain, wheres the perfect execution in that? Match videos bestow high level play with perfect execution. Its not played out you just suck. Ppl who suck cannot distinguish boring shit and top level play bc they see that alot in match videos but to veterans, everything is scrutinized.
omg i cant believe you said combo videos show the meaning of skill and effort. I will guarantee you that most if not all combo makers will die effortlessly to vets in a heart beat. There are tons of new stuff going on in match videos, just watch sanford or wong.
Your friends dont watch match videos bc you and them all suck, literally and physically. you guys are no good. its like saying 3s ppl only watch combo vids and not match vids. you see the logic in that?
umm, I suck? well I pretty much do the same thing u do infinite,resets,gaurdbreaks,and so on.Everything dont have to be about excution,especially when its the same old top 4. :confused:
New stuff in match videos?umm post up a match.Here is my prediction of the match you will have.Switch glitch. snapout. gaurd break. infinite. unblockable with sentinel.build meter. build meter. super. super. bait assist super. super.thats going to be 98% of the match there.Only thing that would impress me is low tier matches .Low tier matches people like me will see somthing new,top tier people like you still learning the game.
And you talking about watch sanford and wong?Where you been because there good but not fancy,the play to win.And wong is basic but good.So what the hell you talking about?New in match vids and nameing those 2,You where better off naming a random player from anywhere.
People that plays low tier gets more respect thing the same old msp?
totaltoanage
02-20-2007, 04:31 PM
holyshit did you say sanford and wong are not fancy? wow you are a noob.
KinanO
02-20-2007, 04:37 PM
holyshit did you say sanford and wong are not fancy? wow you are a noob.
lol mind telling me whats so fancy the do nowadays?That I dont already know? :confused: Sanfords magneto doing handstands now? Wong storm doing pushups to build meter,please! Shad some light of what you saw them doing so insane that one person on srk havent seen before ever. please share. post just one vid.There has to be plenty.
Are those the only players you know dogg? :wonder:
gouki10
02-20-2007, 04:38 PM
Sanford and Wong are basic.....?
whats basic to you?
i think being able to use the "basics" so long and so well in a high level, heated match is what seperates them for all the rest.
And i never knew that sanford doing with sentinel s.lk + mag-a, mp, sj, lk mp, fly lp mp, unfly, fly lp mp, unfly lp, fly under, lk+ mag-a, hp, rp.
or
Jwong pinning storm/sentinel/capcom and stuffing capcom calls/assist killing with perfectly placed tri jump rushdowns/ hailstorms to kill capcom was so basic.
i doubt that there are many people that can say that they know what is going on and be to reproduce it vs players at that level.
The word basic doesn't not exist in marvel because even getting a launch into air combo can seem impossible when you don't know the match up vs a High level player as justin or sanford.
im not downing you, i don't think you suck because i've never played you, but i don't think what they do is "basic" in anyway.
it might be true that what they do has been seen before, but whats not basic is there ability to consistantly overwhelm there oppenents with these "basics", that is why they are so amazing, because they show all the aspects of the game/ what team they use so well, so many times vs so many players.
KinanO
02-20-2007, 04:42 PM
let be rephase that,i mean they play to win! i didnt mean basic like lp,lk,lp combo super.What im trying explain to dude,is watching the same old msp,santrax,mst,or whatever gets more boring.but i guess thats him.he might still be learning.
gouki10
02-20-2007, 04:48 PM
actually, watching the same teams get played over and over is not boring to me atleast, why?
because even if everyone has seen what the team is capable of, there is no reason why you will see it happen so many times until you see a great player like justin and sanford play. They bring out the best in what they play, thus you see the game at it's current best.
i understand your point about low tiers being more exciting because you get to see the game at a different light, with insane things that most people never knew about, but watching great players like justin and sanford play with whatever almost always promises an amazing show of strats/execution.
i believe that was the point that totaltoanage was trying to get across.
KinanO
02-20-2007, 05:02 PM
yea I understand you fully just other people opinions.
On the contrary, wouldnt making combo videos be boring? I mean they take forever to make and probably an hour to do a single combo chain, wheres the perfect execution in that? Match videos bestow high level play with perfect execution. Its not played out you just suck. Ppl who suck cannot distinguish boring shit and top level play bc they see that alot in match videos but to veterans, everything is scrutinized.
omg i cant believe you said combo videos show the meaning of skill and effort. I will guarantee you that most if not all combo makers will die effortlessly to vets in a heart beat. There are tons of new stuff going on in match videos, just watch sanford or wong.
Your friends dont watch match videos bc you and them all suck, literally and physically. you guys are no good. its like saying 3s ppl only watch combo vids and not match vids. you see the logic in that?
Oh ok i see his point in the blue ,I got lost in everything else,I suck,suck,they suck :rofl:
VEGA_OMEGA
02-20-2007, 05:35 PM
lol at this thread.
I don't get what it's all about.
I HIGHLY doubt magnetro will find a new comer as good as the one he recently found. :wgrin:
Demon Dash
02-20-2007, 06:14 PM
I could say I'm interested in those aspects of things because I actually understand the concept of it all. My creation isn't lacking, it's just dexterity and execution that stop me from creating anything "different" some time soon. If I had a program controler (and knew how to use the fucker) then yeah I probably would take it further.
The kind of stuff I'm on now is relatively simple, but I'm getting better. I've got things like the rom down, normal jump infinite, c.hk (sjc), tri-hk, c.hk etc. I've got a good hand full of resets too. Unfly is probably one of my next challenges, I've been experimenting with it a little, creating a few stomp paterns etc, but I haven't gone beyond that. I was trying to do sj.lp, sj.lp, unfly sj.lp, sj.lp, unfly etc but that shit has mad crazy timing.
My sudden decision to learn Marvel to a higher level was pretty spontanious, but I'm enjoying it.
Dios <-X->
02-20-2007, 06:37 PM
Do not forget about the Dragonforce-esque and Rock Opera music.
WE ARE~~~ THE ONES THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCEEE!!
hahaha
greeneggs&ham
02-21-2007, 05:43 AM
<--------- WAITING FOR SOME MORE COMBO VIDS,get down with the sickness :wink:
Magnetro
02-21-2007, 05:57 AM
Yeah, that's how it is pretty much =/. Thats why I'm asking of more people try things for themselves instead of waiting for a few to make something. It's probably a lot cause though *shrugs*
MegamanDS
02-21-2007, 09:48 AM
Yeah, that's how it is pretty much =/. Thats why I'm asking of more people try things for themselves instead of waiting for a few to make something. It's probably a lost cause though *shrugs*
go to sleep. it is a lost cause looking for people like us. its like the show hereos, you need to discover a list.
are YOU on the list...
<---SiNN--->
02-21-2007, 11:22 AM
Did Deric Bogus and DJB-13 stop making videos? :confused:
Yes :sad: and most likely :sad:
-The End
I like gouki10 idea, I have ideas too but no way to encode them from dc to pc.Aim should be a good place to meet up for the people in this project.Dont lose hope there has to be creative minds out there :wink: but sharing ideas in private,then having them programed by magnetro or whoever is still the persons combo.So its nothing different,just a way to have the project running smoothly.After that,then release the public video.
I can't think of another forum,this is the on place,oh what about CV forum?That would be a good place,A?Just my idea?Ya know.Marvel getting pretty dull to me without mvc2 Combo Vids'. :looney:
power333
02-21-2007, 07:36 PM
Tutorials like the Ruby Heart one are the real deal. If people can do all 56 characters, I'll never need another video.
Magnetro
02-22-2007, 04:19 AM
go to sleep. it is a lost cause looking for people like us. its like the show hereos, you need to discover a list.
are YOU on the list...
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Anyway, I'm glad to be receiving positive responses (from those of you that don't hate combo videos for no reason) but let's take this one step at a time. First off, get in touch with me via AIM to discuss your ideas. If it's been done before, I'll show you a clip of it or tell you which video you can download to see it. If it hasn't been done, then I'll help you find a way to capture it. If that proves impossible, then I'll capture it for you. Either way, you'll get credit for any of your ideas that end up in any combo videos that I put together. But I'm not sure if I'll like everything that people come up with. Hm, maybe if there are enough people and ideas someone can make a video just showing everything that everyone (or however many people contributed) came up with. Once several of us start collaborating on a project, we won't have much trouble finding ways to communicate. That's the general plan.
KinanO
02-22-2007, 06:31 AM
(from those of you that don't hate combo videos for no reason).
They hate it for no reason cuz they only know god tier and and hate on the cv creators that makes a name for themseleves from there hard work for a game they love.And giving something to the community,which they truly don't have to. :wonder:
Yea magnetro go with that plan,hopefully you get up to 5 people.
Demon Dash
02-22-2007, 07:22 AM
Well I'm getting a capture card soon, I plan to keep playing Marvel anyway so when I do I'll record some shit... Well, try anyway lol...
Magnetro
02-22-2007, 07:47 AM
They hate it for no reason cuz they only know god tier and and hate on the cv creators that makes a name for themseleves from there hard work for a game they love.And giving something to the community,which they truly don't have to. :wonder:
Yea magnetro go with that plan,hopefully you get up to 5 people.
I don't care that most people don't like CV's or are not interested in them. I know that sounds contradicting. I made a mistake by saying, "for no reason" I'm sure people have their own reasons and taste and I can't really hold it against them no matter how much I disagree with it.
Anyway, after a while all the combo video people I know make videos for themselves and for like 5 other people (trying to find more =/). It's something 'we' just like to do. It's selfish even though it doesn't look like it, haha.
Demon Dash
02-22-2007, 02:40 PM
Could you give us an example of what kind of content you're looking for? As far as doing things that haven't been done, there's only so much left you can do... Are you talking character infinites? Or even just 100% DHC combos with obscure characters?
Magnetro
02-22-2007, 02:50 PM
new combos or interesting situations with two characters doing stuff at the same time. New combos is too hard to explain, i like technical stuff a lot and flashy/cool ideas with characters that aren't TB4. It's really hard to explain =/ unless I post stuff I have.......Which I wont lol
making combo videos is like 7x harder than it looks. I had planned to get some stuff up (simple assist combos, mostly), but time is a bitch. As it is, I already have a bunch of stuff recorded, but haven't bothered to arrange/edit/capture/sexify/encode/upload it, and won't for a long-ass time. I think everyone has a combo or two that they want to get online, but nobody bothers, even the people who have the means to do it already- most just never actually do it.
I have some more complex stuff I want to get around to...some stuff for Rose (Alpha 3) and a Ryu tutorial (MvC2) among others...those will literally take forever to finish, let alone actually get online.
Demon Dash
02-24-2007, 03:46 PM
So when making combos would you set the DHC limit to 3 or 5?
MegamanDS
02-24-2007, 06:55 PM
usually 10 if they link smoothly.
Magnetro
03-01-2007, 08:05 PM
Alright, I got a mod to move it here just in case someone missed it or something.
I'm looking for someone else like joo/mikez/jadon etc.
Radiant93
03-02-2007, 06:35 AM
is this open to everyone? i don't get it... sorry for that noobish question.
i can contribute 1 or 2 i think..
MegamanDS
03-02-2007, 10:44 AM
watcha got?
Magnetro
03-02-2007, 12:51 PM
watcha got?
The only combo you know is a # 2 at McDonalds
Demon Dash
03-02-2007, 01:03 PM
Lol...
MegamanDS
03-02-2007, 01:33 PM
The only combo you know is a # 2 at McDonalds
classic...
Insomniac487
03-02-2007, 01:44 PM
I'm with you on this one guys. I don't have anything to record so I can't really get the foortage I need. And i want it to be good quality too, so i won't use my camcorder to record the "tv", cause that's not good quality. If i did, i'd be contributing a heck lot of stuff (especially for low tiers). the editing is easy, it's just the footage thats lacking. damn, i wish i could record stuff.
A lot of people play just to win, and don't do fancy-stuff too often. I see kinanO's point of view. I think he's just saying that all the stuff people do nowadays/in tournament play, are basics. (in reality, it's really intermediate-expert-stragedies and how they play). We see that so often in vids/real life/tournaments that it becomes boring for some of us (aka basic for some of us). Not me though, just sometimes it is.. it gets a bit repetitive if you know what i mean. stuff like the all-so-common resets, air combos, guardbreaks, assist launch-till-death snapback infinite, etc. What will make a match more interesting, is pulling off uncommon flashy stuff.
I'm talking about the very unique, extremely creative, some basic, advance (slightly), and very-advance stuff here...
1. Assist-combos.... it's the future (or has been for awhile). Also one of the main major reasons for flashyness. Assists really do help to extend combos or make things really flashy & fancy. (ruby heart's capture assist, thano's capture assist, sent drones, spiral's swords, storm's proj, magneto's proj, etc)
2. Throws-into-assist-combos - this is kinda rare, but when it happens, the crowd goes in shock
3. Assist-snapback-infinites aka Assist-Juggaling - yep these are common. Well atleast the launch, launch, launch till death ones. Done by storm, magneto most of the time. (mag's launch, lp, lk, lp, lk, add, lk, pause, lk, launch is another flashy assist-juggle as you may have seen). I had a thread on gamefaqs a long while ago, asking everybody to help me experiment with assist-juggles. Not only for top tiers, but for low tiers also (how exciting). Trust me, doing this in a match will just WOW the crowd since they don't see it coming, and dont think it's possible. Examples :
Ironman - in the corner only..... [HK, fly, unfly immediatly] Repeat. You have to be extremely fast in button-pressing. Timing is somewhat strict meaning if you miss it by a tiny bit.. the assist escapes.
Cammy - in the corner only..... [any launch, SJ, lp, lk, lp, lk, downback lk (the move where she kicks downwards, launch] Repeat. Her launch, launch launch till death is too slow and is impossible. So after experimenting with her, i came up with that juggle
now, some characters are impossible to juggle without an assist. like cable (well he might have something with the scimitar bounching them so high up, he can do another one over n over). Assist-juggagling-with-your-own-assists is when it gets REALLY flashy. A good example of this (might sound confusing) is this match..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MRCUQ7x7pjw
at 00.47 seconds. It's anarkis doing a assist-juggle using sonson as his assist. As you can tell, the crowd goes wild, cause they don't expect it and it's definitely extremely rare cause nobody does it. anarkis alone can't juggle an assist, but with the help of an assist, he can. Ruby heart can't do her blue-flame over n over on a assist, cause it's not fast enough.. but with a AAA (son son, cyclops, etc), she can..
So to summarize it a bit up, here are some good ideas for vids
1. Assist combos (bunch of vids have this, but having more new ones wont hurt)
2. Throws-into-assist-combos
3. Assist-snapback-infinites aka Assist-Juggaling. not the launch till death ones though, other techniques. And for characteres besides mag/storm unless they have other unique ones besides launch-till-death. Mag has a lot actually
4. Invincible-fast-specials.... didnt mention this but a vid explaining what has invincibility startup and what will beat out other specials would be a really good video. Example : cammy's KBA goes through doom's photon air special... ruby heart's fireball special ges through mag's shockwave.. etc.
Those are just a few things i can think of, off the top of my head that would make really interesting combo videos. I would say a good 20-30% of the people out there (experts including) pull off fancy stuff. It makes the game a lot more exciting, and fun to watch. Different from in a good way. Nowadays, whenever i pull off assist-combos, dealing with thano's capture/rubyheart's capture.. people give a big "damn, What the ****, how'd you do that, or what just happened?". (basic kinda for some, but still). OR cammy's launch+spiral assist, lp, lk, lp, drill... and they LAND on spiral's swords, launch, double-jump air combo, drill, xx KBA.. now this one REALLY WOWS people ...Cause very often, they think the combo is going to end.. but it extends. i love hearing their reactions, heh. It's not too hard to pull off in a match, but it's pratical, and possible. If i think of any other cool ideas, ill let you guys know :smokin:
Also.. BIG THANKS to megaman ds, magnetro, DJ-b13, Meikyousisui people, j00, MikeZ, ekin, etc. for making the videos.. you have a big fanbase and we really appreciate the vids. They're so creative, and informative, some we didn't even know were possible.. it's always amazing to see what people come up with.. Keep them coming! (well for those who still make vids, heh)
Tutorials like the Ruby Heart one are the real deal. If people can do all 56 characters, I'll never need another video.
HELL YEAH. now thats what you call a damn good combo video. it really does show her potential, what she can do, what she's capable of, etc. I started playing Rubyheart-base teams a lot more often because of that video! for those who haven't seen it, check it out @
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KvxVGqTXI-w
http://youtube.com/watch?v=i2P62X7itiQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ukWXz6Q-_LY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nfQEfUAJWMQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QRLKoITV0F4
Demon Dash
03-02-2007, 03:10 PM
I had a thread on gamefaqs
I stopped reading here...
Ah, well the Mike Z/joo types are much more rare. Recently, the coolest thing I've seen in terms of more "untraditional" Marvel 2 vids would be the stuff from these guys:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd3pt8GPRoI
eczangief
03-03-2007, 11:17 PM
I think a video series showcasing strange/fun/interesting/unorthodox teams would be neat. The "How to Play Team Z" series comes to mind. Just something cool to remind people that 40 or so other characters actually exist.
Magnetro
03-04-2007, 01:11 PM
Ah, well the Mike Z/joo types are much more rare. Recently, the coolest thing I've seen in terms of more "untraditional" Marvel 2 vids would be the stuff from these guys:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd3pt8GPRoI
yeah i know :( really good combo people are practically non-existent. Very rare, I asked the mod to move it here just for more exposure but I don't see this working.
TS: didn't you say you did videos or something?
I don't really make vids, other than some A3 stuff (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK5tNCRAO_E) I've YouTubed, though there's a couple projects I'd like to do if I can ever get the time.
What I'm working on now are just a bunch of assist combos, mainly because I fell in love with Flying Screen OTGs with assists at some point, and it gives interesting combos to some characters. First vid will be mostly Storm-A as the assist, but hopefully I can do at least 2 more vids.
For example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWfO-4MLopk
A lot of interrupting Flying Screen with assists, which means even if those assists OTG, those OTGs become unrollable (assists OTG in the Strider combo, but juggle in the CapAm combo).
I use a trick assist or two (Ryu-G is in the last combo and does the buff damage that other shotos' hurricane kicks only do in the air, though I should have used crouching Strong instead of the standing one in that combo since that version works on crouching characters), but it's all pretty simple stuff.
Deathfist
03-05-2007, 06:48 AM
No, hehe. There is a thread for getting programmable controllers...So if there are any people with good ideas for combos it's possible to get your hands on a program pad. Hopefully there are some other people that have interesting ideas and make the most out of them with a programmable controller. ^_^.
A good idea is a good idea, it doesn't have to be nearly impossible to do by hand to be impressive! A program pad(s) just amplify the idea.
How would I get a Dreamcast program pad? I've been itching to get my hands on one for some time.
When I get my Dreamcast fixed, and get a custom arcade stick, that would be optimal for me.
I'm tempted to make a combo video, but because I don't have the equipment to do it, have never done it before, and the fact that I'd have to have it be for characters other than Blackheart or Hulk, these are all good reasons for me to not do it.
The standards are so high for combo videos and video tutorials today, that anyone trying to do one would be hard pressed to make a good one. SRK is no place to put a video that's substandard.
Getting all that equipment and knowledge together on how to do it might in and of itself be enough to change my mind about making a video though.
Keep it going. Even if I don't, someone else will, and innovation is essential. Especially now that people have forgotten what non-top tiers can do.
Deathfist
03-05-2007, 07:29 AM
I don't really make vids, other than some A3 stuff (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK5tNCRAO_E) I've YouTubed, though there's a couple projects I'd like to do if I can ever get the time.
What I'm working on now are just a bunch of assist combos, mainly because I fell in love with Flying Screen OTGs with assists at some point, and it gives interesting combos to some characters. First vid will be mostly Storm-A as the assist, but hopefully I can do at least 2 more vids.
For example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWfO-4MLopk
A lot of interrupting Flying Screen with assists, which means even if those assists OTG, those OTGs become unrollable (assists OTG in the Strider combo, but juggle in the CapAm combo).
I use a trick assist or two (Ryu-G is in the last combo and does the buff damage that other shotos' hurricane kicks only do in the air, though I should have used crouching Strong instead of the standing one in that combo since that version works on crouching characters), but it's all pretty simple stuff.
Notes regarding the second video:
I love the FS ones into storm assist by BH and CapAm...
=BH
This reminds me of my FS one into hk, into them landing on drones, which results in me tagging out, or JD super, into a kill DHC and...
=CapAm
This is essentially a kill off 2 levels. Even if you survive that, there is the risk of a DHC into a third guy's super after you've already lost at least 95% of your health. You're dead.
People sometimes forget that even simple stuff can be entertaining and even potentially useful. Examples:
=Hulk Airthrows a character with Cable stamina that fails to roll or tech hit it.
-Call Storm-y, roundhouse[otg], hard gamma charge, pause, gamma crush, hold back, dead character, DHC to Storm [Whether or not they'll survive the Gamma Crush, Cable from full health won't]and run away.
-Flying hk, Call BH, gamma charge, slight pause, gamma crush, hold forwards, dead character
You block something real close to a Hulk player that Hulk can gamma charge safely.
-he calls BH and gamma charges you, Cancels to a gamma crush, and your character is dead. Outright.
MegamanDS
03-05-2007, 09:28 AM
What I'm working on now are just a bunch of assist combos, mainly because I fell in love with Flying Screen OTGs with assists at some point, and it gives interesting combos to some characters. First vid will be mostly Storm-A as the assist, but hopefully I can do at least 2 more vids.
For example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWfO-4MLopk
A lot of interrupting Flying Screen with assists, which means even if those assists OTG, those OTGs become unrollable (assists OTG in the Strider combo, but juggle in the CapAm combo).
That is definitely NOT what magnetro is looking for. Sorry to burst you're bubble.
(get it magnetro?)
KinanO
03-05-2007, 05:37 PM
from the looks of it mvc2 combovideos are done. :wasted: intill people get programing pads
power333
03-06-2007, 10:05 PM
Magnetro, I know its not what you're looking for, but it would be of amazing help to the community. Do you think you could do some beginner videos showing basic strategies and what not?
Please read here to understand where am I coming from:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=127564
Apparently Marvel gets no new players because its so hard. Maybe you could help the community out.
Magnetro
03-07-2007, 03:36 AM
Magnetro, I know its not what you're looking for, but it would be of amazing help to the community. Do you think you could do some beginner videos showing basic strategies and what not?
Please read here to understand where am I coming from:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=127564
Apparently Marvel gets no new players because its so hard. Maybe you could help the community out.
No
ya, can you make some tutorials for magneto, dhalsim and a few others?
Can you make more Team Beast videos? Your second video was really helpful and much better than my Magneto video.
Dander
03-07-2007, 05:25 AM
Yeah, that's how it is pretty much =/. Thats why I'm asking of more people try things for themselves instead of waiting for a few to make something. It's probably a lot cause though *shrugs*
we don't ALL have money to waste away on 50 dollar command pads.
so tits or gtfo
I hereby proclaim mmds to be the saint and savior of combo videos
those team beast videos were just beastly.
Can I, MMDS Jr., Join Team Beast?
btw +++ for team beast videos thanks again
here is some me actions vs some 12 yr old scrub
www.denjin-video.com/magnetro/mmdsjr.wmv
hopefully after watching that you'll agree to my request of a loan so that I can money match him in marvel. He says that's his game, and I wanna prove him wrong or take his game from him. I'll need about 300 dollars because he's kinda rich.
and if i'm required to step into a trial by fire to test my might, I'm not afraid to get my feet wet, so shoot fireballs at me or whatever...I'll triangle jump over them and standing hk cancel into the mmdsjrmagfinite without sliding. Soon after I'll rollman cancel into megaman DHC follwed by his fireball trap. Once the fireball Trap is set you'll be forced to red parry or I'll grab you with my BiddyBiddy Boo blaster. I know so many glitches to this game, you don't even know where I'll stop. The other day I grabbed magneto out of his Rock Blast Super. I got OHhhs And AHhs from all over the place.
Because I AM a beast like that.
So yeah. It's too bad you couldn't see his face when he got off of the stool because he was crying so bad...you don't even know.
MegamanDS
03-07-2007, 10:44 AM
those team beast videos were just beastly.
Can I, MMDS Jr., Join Team Beast?
btw +++ for team beast videos thanks again
there is already 2 megamands jr. at ffa. vito and alex. you can be mmds the 4th if you want...
also, these team beast videos are pretty good tutorials for basic and advanced combos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LL4tZfJbOk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2xsGFNPXsc
Demon Dash
03-07-2007, 11:29 AM
My two favourite teams... :bgrin:
Pizzarino
03-07-2007, 02:54 PM
When did I get promoted to MMDSJR?
Demon Dash
03-07-2007, 04:10 PM
When did I get promoted to MMDSJR?
Welcome it...
MegamanDS
03-07-2007, 06:40 PM
When did I get promoted to MMDSJR?
A couple days ago when we played 3s together
Dander
03-07-2007, 06:51 PM
When did I get promoted to MMDSJR?
YO fuck that.
Money Match for the prized name
I have an avatar to boot.
Money Match.
My Guile sent Cammy K Groove
Money Match.
vs whoever you wanna use.
Money Match.
When you're DS
You're DS to the end
From you first Combo Vid
To you last tourny win!
Money Match.
KinanO
03-08-2007, 07:21 AM
guess i was wrong :wonder: Deric Bogus just came out with a vid again
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=127734
xxphilopiaxx
03-22-2007, 12:58 PM
I like finding those "WTF was that" kind of combos...then trying to pull them off during actual matches.
I dont think they're combo video worthy, though...just random stuff
-Storm: SJ xx ad f Fp, Fk, land, s.fk + sent proj, sj.fp [Flying screen] assist hits [FSD], mash ad df, sj.fp [FS], land s.FK
-or in corner, sj.fp, fk, land, c.fk + sent proj, sj.fp, assist hits, LA df, LA uf xx LS, DHC HSF is just ridiculous.
shat load of damage, but not very practical.
-Throw into assist stuff
-Tag in combos
-Weird DHC combos
-Assist reset combos
I wish I had more competion where I live though...
xxphilopiaxx
04-19-2007, 07:31 PM
I saw the MegamanDS magneto/storm assist snapback combo....very nice work.
So, I've been experimenting with it with sent, cable, ironman, etc...
It works anywhere, too. I though it was just in the corner, but nope...its anywhere. Sentinel and cable really benefit from it. Well, they lose a meter, but its flashy.
midscreen with sent-call in storm proj, s.lk, s.lk, assist hits, snapback, pause, HSF...
So, props to DS for that combo.
MegamanDS
04-19-2007, 10:52 PM
I saw the MegamanDS magneto/storm assist snapback combo....very nice work.
So, I've been experimenting with it with sent, cable, ironman, etc...
It works anywhere, too. I though it was just in the corner, but nope...its anywhere. Sentinel and cable really benefit from it. Well, they lose a meter, but its flashy.
midscreen with sent-call in storm proj, s.lk, s.lk, assist hits, snapback, pause, HSF...
So, props to DS for that combo.
?? which one? are you talking about the mag storm point character snapback, pop back in? i have no assist combos...
xxphilopiaxx
04-20-2007, 12:02 AM
lol...I meant mags with storms proj assist, but yeah, thats the one.
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