Naruto Shippuuden Gekitou Ninja Taisen EX

[Josh-TheFunkDOC]

Yep, this just came out in Japan, and the early reports are pretty freaking awful. =(

I actually like a LOT of what they did with 4, it was just extremely tier broken (Marvel doesn't even compare). As such, I had some hope for this one, but that now appears to be completely unjustified.

First off, they reduced the roster from approx. 40 characters to 14. Yes, I know, this is a new Naruto "series", but that's still pretty effing lame. The complete list, with hidden characters in BOLD:

Naruto
Sakura
Kakashi
Neji
Lee
Gai
Gaara
Deidara
Temari
Kankurou
Tenten
Kisame
Itachi
Sasori


Among the notable changes to the cast:

- Naruto now can transform into OTK for 50% chakra. It's mostly the same as his Kyuubi transform in previous games, though - he just has a couple of OTK's old moves and no life drain.

- Gaara can Y-cancel sand attacks now.

- Sakura looks to be decent finally, with much better life & damage.

- Itachi got all kinds of nerfed. d+X is gone, X is weaker, j.A has a lot more recovery, and his new f+A is the world's slowest Katon. That doesn't even cover all of it.

- Temari's j.B is no longer an attack, but a glide that can cancel into j.A. She has a totally new back+B, and it is probably the best in the game - launches extremely high, and in the corner you can just loop it over and over.

- Kisame's throw into BBAAA only works outside the corner, and almost all his other main combos are now gone. All his stuff that drained chakra still does, just less so. He can summon a clone that does an unblockable move that traps the opponent in a bubble, not sure how useful it is. Funniest bit: You can burst out of his throw BEFORE HE SLAMS YOU, and get a free combo from behind! He still looks to be top tier though, for reasons I will explain later.

- Neji's d+X is now a crappy counter super.

- Kankurou has a second puppet, which autoguards, is unblockable, AND cannot be bursted!

- Tenten was changed the most of anyone. She now has multiple weapons she can cycle through, including a Zabuza-style sword.


As for the new ones, I have not seen Sasori yet. Deidara has a bunch of exploding clay projectiles, some of which are unblockable and cannot be sidestepped. His combos may suck though, I barely saw people use any B strings with him.

Now, to general system changes...

- Of course, as you may have seen, stages have obstacles now. Doesn't really seem to add anything to the gameplay.

- Counter hits always launch, as does hitting a staggered opponent. This screws up all sorts of standard strings, Kisame's j.A combos, Neji's f+BBABBX, and other things.

- The overall damage is lower. I personally like this.

- The throw break window is now longer, more like GNT2.

- Everyone has an airthrow!

- Y-cancels drastically increase gravity. No more BBAABY, BBX for Kisame...hell, Lee/Gai can't even do a ABAY, ABA type loop anymore. So basically, most characters have few combos anymore.

- Supers require you to do Wiimote stuff for full damage. HOWEVER, if you use a GC controller, you'll get the maximum every time.

- You cannot burst while knocked down anymore, and can be hit OTG right until you get up.

- You can get hit out of tech rolls now, and it launches just like in Tekken. Combine these facts, and you get a stupid wakeup game. This is why Kisame is still good...he can perform (Throw, BBY, BBY, j.A) then immediately f+A, and it will hit them whether they tech or not. If they don't tech, you get ANOTHER f+A; if they do, then you can Y-cancel the f+A into the above combo and repeat the trap again.

- And I saved the worst for last: There is almost NO blockstun whatsoever in the game. If someone tries BB and you block the first B, you can jab them BEFORE THE SECOND B COMES OUT. Jump attacks are also unsafe now, thanks to this. So really, the only safe poke is B, and for some characters even THAT'S too laggy. Combine this with the easier throw breaks, and this could well be a game that makes you BEG for Tekken 4.


I will update in the future if people discover anything interesting or just funny. Sad faces for Wii fighters, it looks like...at least we have Smash and Accent Core. =D

-Josh

[Wellman]

Damn, did someone forget to tell the developers that the Wii development is damn near the same as the GC? Or is the whole Shippuuden thing just being animated means, the game will try not to spoil things for people just following the anime?

[Josh-TheFunkDOC]

Yeah I accidentally hit enter on that first post, it's complete now.

Read and laugh your ass off!

Also, Wikipedia claimed that there was another hidden character, Two-Tailed Kyuubi Naruto, but that appears to be a hoax.

[PozerWolf]

Some of the shit sounds kind of the cool, but for the most part it don't sound all that great.

Y cancels getting a hardcore nerf sucks, but being able to re-launch from OTGs sounds cool.

[debs]

weak.

[Snowman]

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=des326 some videos of the game in action.
Looks hot, even with the short roster. You know GNT EX4 is gonna be something lol

[Thongboy Bebop]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ALehcTznLvw

Sasori!

N

[Shinto]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyiCTTLqjW0

Wtf he cant get up?

[Thongboy Bebop]

Isn't that training mode though, or at least an AI? It needs to show inputs for the 2P or something.

N - Hopefully they'll have the non-Hiruko Sasori in the game by the time they fix all this up anyway, haha.

[debs]

after watching the vids, it doesn't seem so bad. i suppose they couldn't have characters in the game that weren't developed in the manga. it doesn't make sense to have the same roster from the gc games when post time skip, hardly any of those characters have made worthwhile appearances. orochimaru should have been in the game though because of his battle with naruto, but i guess they're saving that for part two...

[PozerWolf]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyiCTTLqjW0

Wtf he cant get up?
Ok... that looks really bad.
There has to be something where missing from this.

[Yamazaki35]

The videos made it look alright but if you watch them blocking some of those strings, it looks like they came out of blockstun early enough to do something but didn't. Watch it closely, doesn't look promising to me.

As far as the roster, the games compliment the TV show, which if I remember right is just now getting to the time skip. Which would explain why Sasori is in his puppet monster thing and not his human looking form. The cast is purely Gaara recovery arc characters.

I suppose only time will tell though, I hope that Sasori ground combo stuff isnt what it looks like.

[Gen2000]

Is there a Wii Freeloader out now or people just playing this on a Japanese Wii? Tenten looks fun to play, funny how the games always makes her more interesting than the series.

That Sasori OTG rape was ugly though, hopefully that's just some training mode thing (like they got gain chakra while they're on the ground in the mode so that's why he didn't auto-KnJ like they usually do?)...

[Shinto]

Nope you need a japanese Wii, or you can get your wii modded but I dont know about that.

[HeartNana]

Josh - Question, does Temari still have j.X?

If so, is there any hits that you can get for free after it? Has anything else changed about it?

If not, is there anything else that she has similar to that? Thanks <3

[Stabby]

She has a KnJ-able dX now, but no more jX. I can't remember what her dX is, though... I think she sends waves of wind out in a bunch of directions?

[HeartNana]

well, if its knj, that sucks then. j.X was my main reason for playing Temari, if she lost that, forget that.

THen again, her old j.X in a game without much blockstun = LOL

[Rodimus]

Yea, the game looks hot though. what's sasori's special? i take it no 100 death puppets??

[matrixmatt]

my brothers been waiting for this game for a long time now. he even bought the game before buying the japanesse wii. plus him and his friends have been playing gnt4 four over 2 years during luch and nutrition times at his high school so ya.......the defintion of hardcore naruto fans.

[PozerWolf]

plus him and his friends have been playing gnt4 four over 2 years during luch and nutrition times at his high school so ya.......the defintion of hardcore naruto fans.
Dude, GNT4 is barley a year old.

Plus, what does this gotta do with anything? lol :lol:

[Josh-TheFunkDOC]

OK people...

I was kinda wrong about the blockstun thing. After blocking anyone's BB, you get a free jab combo, but some characters' single Bs are safe. Additionally, Lee & Gai can use BBA and the A will tech crouch jabs...but that leaves them vulnerable to d+B. You can also use counter supers for a similar purpose, though now they use up the meter whether you land them or not. =/

Second, all real-time supers can be KNJ'ed now.

Also, that OTG infinite on Sasori is 100% legit. All you need is 1 counter hit to knock him down, and it's GGPO. Remember, you can hit tech rollers now, and you can't KNJ on the ground. I recall hearing that Naruto & Deidara are the only ones who can infinite him, but I'm not 100% sure.

And Rodimus, no there is no 100 puppets, and the reason for this actually brings up something else hilarious that I wanted to mention: There is talk of banning Kankurou, simply because he apparently lags the game real bad with his 2 puppets. Seriously. From what I hear, a mirror match is NES-level lagtastic.

And yes, before anyone asks, this lag also means 4-player totally sucks now.

In case anyone cares, I've heard that Kisame & Itachi are still beefy, Kank is broken even without considering the lag issue, and Naruto/Deidara/Tenten/Kakashi are all good.

Supposedly, the Willvolution folks are holding a tourney for this in a couple weeks or so, so we'll get to see how it all plays out. I'm not optimistic, though...

[Josh-TheFunkDOC]

Fun facts:

Naruto's OTK transform now increases his defense slightly.

Lee & Gai's gates now drastically DECREASE their defense. 5th gate Lee dies in like one combo from anyone now, and his life still drains. =(

Final transformation bit: Kakashi's sharingan drains his life much more slowly, and he has a different super with it - still insane damage, AND much easier to land as a meaty attack.

In fact, all meaty supers are far easier now, as there is a smaller window to sidestep. This also makes throwing people on wakeup hard to miss.

[Gasp]

She has a KnJ-able dX now, but no more jX. I can't remember what her dX is, though... I think she sends waves of wind out in a bunch of directions?

that sounds fucking TERRIBLE
since Jiraiya isnt in this :sad: :sad: :sad: looks like imma pick up deidara



- You can get hit out of tech rolls now, and it launches just like in Tekken. Combine these facts, and you get a stupid wakeup game. This is why Kisame is still good...he can perform (Throw, BBY, BBY, j.A) then immediately f+A, and it will hit them whether they tech or not. If they don't tech, you get ANOTHER f+A; if they do, then you can Y-cancel the f+A into the above combo and repeat the trap again.

:wow:

[Shinto]

OK people...


Also, that OTG infinite on Sasori is 100% legit. All you need is 1 counter hit to knock him down, and it's GGPO. Remember, you can hit tech rollers now, and you can't KNJ on the ground. I recall hearing that Naruto & Deidara are the only ones who can infinite him, but I'm not 100% sure.



Haha that sucks....I see Deidara being plaayed hella more than alot of other people, Im glad they gave ten ten her much do's.

[Gasp]

another question

can temari's jump.B glide cancel into airthrow? and can she airthrow opponents on teh ground?

i wanna get some vega/balrog shit going

[mukai]

i hope the good kakuzu and hiden in this game

[Josh-TheFunkDOC]

No, all airthrows only work on jumpers. Not sure if you could glide cancel into airthrow, that WOULD make a lot of sense.

Also forgot to mention, Sakura can now get glowing hands and become stronger. It lowers her already crappy defense, though.

Hmm, what else...apparently Kisame can in fact still combo BBAABY, BBX.

Itachi still has most of his good stuff, and that new f+A is infinitely better than I initially thought. It delivers WAY too many hits, such that it either does huge damage or almost guard breaks you by itself. As an OTG it does 50%, I shit you not. His up+A now tracks sidesteps too.

Gaara can Y-cancel up+A, allowing him to combo from almost half the screen. Also, his new X super is damn near impossible to miss as a meaty.

Transformation moves (gates & OTK Naruto) may no longer stop meaty supers, not sure.

Final bit regarding meaty supers - I had posted before that sidestepping them is much riskier in this game. Now we know the reason: All X supers except Lee's will randomly track sidesteps sometimes. Jumping is the best way to avoid them now.

[Gasp]

from what i seen yea itachi's katon looks INsane that shit is huge
i picture a trap involving
knockdown ->katon then either short string to guard break or a throw
actually all these changes seems that characters are getting much more balanced (save itachi,kisame but they always will be broken)
temari looks reallllllllllllllly bad i hope d.X isn't as shitty as it sounds although i can picture it being used to snuff KnJ

[Gasaraki]

Josh, an addendum to Lee and Gai with Gates: with NORMAL attacks, their defense is the same, for some currently unknown reason they only take extra damage from supers(some supers? just Naruto's?) in first gate.

^Button_m4sh: Kisame got balanced from everything I've heard. You can KnJ his throw before it even damages you now. His combos and wakeup are better because of the new hittable techrolls and the OTG stuff, but getting damage in is probably going to be alot harder.

Also, I heard his j.A was slowed down or something, plus if it hits as a counter it knocks down instead of staggering =/

i hope the good kakuzu and hiden in this game

That's way too far in the story for this game. This game only covers up to before Sasori and Deidara fight Naruto & Co.

[Josh-TheFunkDOC]

Thanks Gasa, that's a lot more tolerable!

Also, the Kisame combo into super is up in the air, as I've heard both that it does and doesn't work. The move itself now drains 75% chakra though, as opposed to ~50% in 4. You can jump through the sword if he mistimes it, though. =P

[Gasaraki]

Yeah, but then the sword in the normal combo drains half as much for both swipes.

[Josh-TheFunkDOC]

OK, big update here!

First off, we finally figured out that the more hits you get in a combo, the LESS chakra you build - the opposite of previous games.

The most Kisame can do, thusly, is Throw, BBY, BBX. You're best off just doing your longest possible combo with him and going for meaty super since that's easier now.

Also, gates & OTK transform still beat meaty supers, just NOT Gaara's. It's a projectile that stays out for a very long time, so it will still hit them after the invincibility is over.

Next, on Youtube, we now have some Japanese combo vids for each character:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7hVUbcTFyQ Kisame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwUTBgv2OY0 Temari
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGFp7HBdpmg Itachi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyEpsXCI5F8 Deidara
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlkxWmHbx2I Deidara pt.2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFpfgPpWMhU Sasori
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf_-rHIQOYs Gaara
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqQA7XaNZ8U Kankuro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y4eo0GeHmM Ten Ten
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YajhVEb7UA Rock Lee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZTZGS48100 Neji
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aZ23SLYOKk Sakura
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMpYx9Vhmxw Naruto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD-gO2JSV0U Gai
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtSaWYrq-3A Kakashi

And an assload of casual matches between The WiLL and Senkei. WARNING: Almost all of them are Naruto vs. Gaara. There's some Neji & Itachi mixed in, maybe others (forget).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMr1mM0k8CI Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq4xvEPGWe0 Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io8CK46jQYk Part 3

Finally, GNT beast and fellow SRK member Stabby has suggested that there may be a possible infinite with everyone. And yes, I did not make any of this up:

"Senkei was fucking around with the Wii-mote to see how awesome it was, and he was playing as Naruto.

He was shaking both his hands like a retard, and then Naruto was suddenly cancelling B into B-- on block, on whiff, and on hit. He did it for like a minute, just working his way around the stage while cancelling. It looked like he was Y-cancelling, except without the flash and he didn't have to connect. He guardbroke me with it.

Anyway, after he did it that first time we couldn't duplicate it no matter how we tried flailing.

The motion he used was like if he were punching himself lightly in the kidneys really fast."

If someone could figure out how to consistently pull this off, we NEED this shit at Evo BYOCs. :rofl:

[Gasp]

seriously someone make a naruto thread in the evo section

looking at temari's video i think i got some pretty good shit i can do with her.
that d.A? whirlwind looks insane for juggles

[PozerWolf]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aZ23SLYOKk Sakura
That looks like a really, really stupid combo (the last one).

Look at that shit, it drains your bar and does not give you enoug back after the two hits. So in the end, you get hit you die? :confused:

[debs]

that sasori video was crazy...damn how much longer til the freeloader disc is available? deidara looks like a character i'd pick up though...

[1/2Man1/2God]

this will probably be a great game I just hope Wii doesn't fuck it up by trying to add some interactivity.

[Gasaraki]

OK, big update here!

First off, we finally figured out that the more hits you get in a combo, the LESS chakra you build - the opposite of previous games.

The most Kisame can do, thusly, is Throw, BBY, BBX. You're best off just doing your longest possible combo with him and going for meaty super since that's easier now.

I think it's only after cancels that you gain less chakra as the combo counter goes up, but I'm not certain.


that sasori video was crazy...damn how much longer til the freeloader disc is available? deidara looks like a character i'd pick up though...
No news of anything like a freeloader in the works yet, though it probably is. So far there's only a mod chip.


this will probably be a great game I just hope Wii doesn't fuck it up by trying to add some interactivity.
It's actually not that great of a game on the technical side, it's still kinda glitchy and there's some really odd descisions made, gameplay-wise(such as no safe way to wakeup at all). However, I'm told that it IS fun, and it definitely seems to be headed in a much better direction. The game will probably be much better in the next iterations.

Also, the only thing the Wiimote can do in the game that's extra is power-up your supers, but I'm told it's barely noticable. Even so, you can play with either the Classic or GC controller so it's not an issue. Oh and d-pad support is finally back.

[Gasp]

so how many weapons does tenten have?

also im glad that they have only 14 characters since each one seems realllllllllllly fleshed out then 40 characters with only a handful of em functional

[Shinto]

so Sakura has an infinite? damn. and finally Kank gets respect.

[Gasaraki]

so how many weapons does tenten have?

also im glad that they have only 14 characters since each one seems realllllllllllly fleshed out then 40 characters with only a handful of em functional

Tenten has a total of 6: Chinese style rapier, Double Machete's, Bo staff, Spear, Hugeass Zabuza-ish sword, and a sickle and chain. They only have a limited amount of attacks but they have alot of uses altogether.

[Snowman]

No news of anything like a freeloader in the works yet, though it probably is. So far there's only a mod chip.
Yeah. It was officially announced they're working on a wiiloader but that was some time ago and there's been no updates since. If I knew how long the freeloader took I'd compare but it was already in full circulation when I got mine. If the Wiiloader works and it's always successful I might pick up a Wii to get this game. GNT series always been my favourite.

[Gasaraki]

Oh yeah, to people hating on the Sakura infinite, activating the fists takes 25% chakra so it's not infinite, it's just an unKnJable combo depending on if they can't KnJ the first 2 hits.

[HeartNana]

Damn Temari looks fun as hell to use. I can't wait to try this game out. :tup:

Im not giving up on my character without even playing yet, haha.

[matrixmatt]

how do you unlock itachi kisame and sasori

[Josh-TheFunkDOC]

Ugh.

I played a couple tournies in this over the weekend, and it's pretty lame.

Temari's glide has autoguard, so you can beat a lot of the cast with just constant j.BA's - she automatically faces the right direction when starting j.A. Her down+BBAA does around 25% as an OTG, too.

Deidara's up+A guard breaks you BY ITSELF. He doesn't seem to have a whole lot against Temari though.

Gaara is pretty damn cool though, I will admit. up+A cancels make him much more dangerous (backturned unblockable!), and he can OTG with down+BAA into meaty super. That super can also hit Temari out of her glide.

Kank's new puppet is pretty crazy. You can keep hitting it on wakeup (can't KNJ), and he has infinites off of it. Seems like sometimes they work and sometimes they can KNJ, though. And again, it doesn't seem like he can do much against Temari since she stays in the air all the time.

The game is really slow-paced in general. The reception from all the various Midwest players was very poor.

Rob, I would love to see if you could salvage this thing somehow, but MAN it's not looking good.

[roninwarrior24]

I actually like a LOT of what they did with 4, it was just extremely tier broken (Marvel doesn't even compare).


Were Itachi, Temari, and OTK Naruto bad? I know they are really good, but you make it sound like there were only like 3 top tiers and everyone else sucked. Last time I checked, CS2 Sasuke, Neji, Awakened Hinata, Kimimaro, Kisame, regular Sasuke, and Gaara were also pretty high up there. Were the big 3 THAT bad?

About this game, I haven't played it yet, but it's about time they made Sakura a viable character. Now the only thing that confuses me is why Sasuke is not in it (it's like making a Street Fighter game, but without Ken)...

[Gasp]

Deidara's up+A guard breaks you BY ITSELF. He doesn't seem to have a whole lot against Temari though.

how long is the start up though?

[Shinto]

Were Itachi, Temari, and OTK Naruto bad? I know they are really good, but you make it sound like there were only like 3 top tiers and everyone else sucked. Last time I checked, CS2 Sasuke, Neji, Awakened Hinata, Kimimaro, Kisame, regular Sasuke, and Gaara were also pretty high up there. Were the big 3 THAT bad?



Yes Itachi was magneto Kimimaro is sent and Otk was Storm:arazz:

But seriously Itachi was godly clones cancel and clones.

[Josh-TheFunkDOC]

OK people, the problem with 4 is, a properly played, safe OTK has no disadvantages. Most of the cast has very little chance, and only a few can hang with him (Neji, A.Hinata, Temari).

Kimi & CS2 are overrated, though Kimi can beat Temari. Itachi is really good in general, but has a very bad matchup with OTK and also loses to Temari.

Gaara is not that good, you can airthrow or regular throw him out of just about every string at some point.

roninwarrior gets props for mentioning regular Sasuke, though. Way underrated, better than CS2 i think. Doesn't do that great against top tier though.

Back to SHIPPUUUUUDEN:

Deidara's up+A starts up pretty quickly. Easy to connect as a meaty for instant guard break, and you can combo from it sometimes. Also, his giant bird attack is completely safe (unless you're backed up near the corner) and does about 80% guard crush on an average character.

He is lacking in good strings, though, but that was the intention. Keepaway & guard crush, that's all you do with him.

My hella random opinion on tiers:

Top = Gaara, Temari
High = Deidara, Itachi
Upper-Mid = Naruto, Neji.
Mid = Kisame, Kakashi, Tenten, Sakura
Crap = Lee, Gai, Sasori

Naruto has an actual safe string (BA), solid combos, a powerful super that's easy to combo or land meaty, and the most damaging airthrow (same animation as OTK's old up+A). Neji also has safety and the same great mixups as before, thanks to his cancels on block. However, they just don't match up that great with the people above them.

Kisame was my main character throughout most of 4, so naturally I took to him in the new one. However, I am disappointed. His lifebar's not as good as before, throws in general are easier to break, you can burst out of his throw and get a free combo, and j.A just knocks down on major OR minor counter. He still may be better than I have him, though - he DOES have some nice OTG shenanigans that I never really got the hang of.

Where is Kankurou, you ask? The answer is something I alluded to in an earlier post: BANNED. We tried him in the tournies I was at last weekend, but he just lags the game too much - pretty much the whole GNT community has agreed on this. A shame, since he's all sorts of crazy fun now and arguably the best character.


Also, one last tidbit: Contrary to was what said before, supers actually do more damage if you use the Wiimote and do the motions correctly. However, the control is so awkward...

[EM Disruptor]

^

tier lists yet ? i know its early but any ideas so far?

[HeartNana]

Josh - Yeah, i encountered the same problems as you, and i'm whoring it up with Temari, since you kinda have to use a whore character to do well. Otherwise i just lose to Deidara for free.

So i doubt i'll be able to "save" the game, but it is a fun time, tho. :D

Especially playing with wii-motes, and doing supers and such, too fun. ^_^

[Josh-TheFunkDOC]

Hah, yeah that's the same sort of vibe I'm getting too.

A couple more notes for anyone out there who doesn't keep up:

- Neji's charged A is an instant guard crush on everyone except Sasori & Kisame IIRC. The charge is very quick, too, making it a dangerous tool for wakeup games. They can back+B to autoguard it, but you can just delay if they start doing that. Pretty much the same deal as SF3 Denjin mindgames. Maybe this could make him competitive, not really sure yet.

- You *cannot* back+B Gaara's backturned up+A. Absolutely sick, considering you could autoguard BT unblockables in previous games. He can Y-cancel it too, and combo a few more.

- Sasori may be decent, actually. Excellent safe back+B with mad range, highest lifebar easily, running B crosses up (unblockable) at the right distance, and he can perform some insanely long OTG combos. "Decent" really doesn't count for much vs. top 4, though, and he also has a terrible match with Naruto thanks to the infinite. Still might be better than, say, Lee/Gai/Tenten maybe.

[Shinto]

Can anyone of you nice Gents give a run down on what buttons on the wii-mote do?

[Stabby]

Lee and Deidara can also infinite Sasori. No matter how good he is, those OTG infinites wreck him.

Can Temari cancel into her wind after the glide of j.B ends?

[1/2Man1/2God]

Are you going to be able to play 4 player battle royal like on Clash of the Ninja 2.

[Shinto]

Are you going to be able to play 4 player battle royal like on Clash of the Ninja 2.

yup there is 4 players in it but I hear that its really laggy.

[Josh-TheFunkDOC]

Are you going to be able to play 4 player battle royal like on Clash of the Ninja 2.

Not really, because the lag is beyond awful apparently.

Hell, as I had said before, we had to ban Kankuro for 1v1 because he lags.

Stabby, I didn't know Lee could do it too, thanks! The Deidara one doesn't make as much of a difference IMO, since he auto loses that matchup anyway, but he could hang with Naruto & Lee otherwise. That IS pretty bad then.

[Gasp]

i'd like to see 4 player kankuro matches

[Leebee Link]

Lee in crap tier is disappointing. Ah well, they'll inevitably make a sequel.

[HeartNana]

Can anyone of you nice Gents give a run down on what buttons on the wii-mote do?

There's a couple of different ways you can do it, the most fun imo is:

A - A button
B - swing right hand wii-mote
Y/throw - button on top of nunchuck above joystick on left hand controller
X/super - down on the D pad on the right hand wii-mote
L and R are L and R on the wii-mote/nunchucks.

I didnt need to use Z in 1v1 so i unno what its mapped to.

[Leebee Link]

Oh yeah, question. Can Gai juggle after his realtime super? It looked to pop the opponent up pretty high.

[ChairHome]

Announced for US:
http://wii.ign.com/articles/772/772400p1.html

Exclusive US content?

[Josh-TheFunkDOC]

Hmm it still says 14 characters, but I wonder if that "exclusive content" could be hidden characters from the original series. I think Sasuke, for instance, would be a good bet since there's no Shippuuden in America yet - the kiddies would be all "wtf, where is he?" Orochi also, perhaps. Hell, Zabuza seems plausible - he'd mostly be a Kisame clone, so it wouldn't take too much effort.

[Shinto]

Hah new content might mean a fixed block stun.

[Josh-TheFunkDOC]

Well, after reading a little more about this, it seems like this is actually going to be a Wii port of GNT3, using the EX engine to some degree. I was wondering why they'd release a timeskip game in the US at this point...

Also, GNT3 did have 14 characters to start out, so the news release makes sense.

[1/2Man1/2God]

Not really, because the lag is beyond awful apparently.

Hell, as I had said before, we had to ban Kankuro for 1v1 because he lags.

Stabby, I didn't know Lee could do it too, thanks! The Deidara one doesn't make as much of a difference IMO, since he auto loses that matchup anyway, but he could hang with Naruto & Lee otherwise. That IS pretty bad then.

that's gay as hell this game would be perfect with 4 player battle royal.I wonder why it lags so much.That's really wierd for there to be lag on a next gen console.Oh well the game is probably still cool.

[Wellman]

^
I am guessing that they rushed this game. But that is just my guess.

[ChairHome]

More info on the new Wii game:
http://wii.ign.com/articles/773/773559p1.html