Teacher accused of having sex with at least 5 boys

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http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/teacher-accused-of-having-sex-with-boys/20070301095409990001


do wut u do srk, discuss

[Satomiblood]

I don't condone this type of behavior but still...people have got to do a better job of covering their tracks.

[Kuenai]

http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/teacher-accused-of-having-sex-with-boys/20070301095409990001


do wut u do srk, discuss

I hear these stories and think, "Why couldn't that have been MY teacher in middle school?" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Damn, she's dull

[DanielLarusso]

Some of the victims were students at Ward's school, Thomas said.

Hahah, "victims." Good one.

[CoMpOuNd]

nice...

word.

[Rage02fire]

:rofl: I wonder if those horny Boys pulled a "I'll make love to you if you give me an A in your class Mrs.Ward."

Edit- :hitit:

[DS]

I need a full body pic to know if I can smash. She seems to be the type to give good head. And she's only 1 year older than me? And married? And a teacher? Bananas. A lot of young teachers in the market these days.

Hmm.......maybe that train ride may be worth it after all.

[Hoonyo]

at least one of these 5 boys wasn't me

[Adam Warlock]

She'll be ok if she uses the patented SRK defense: "Pics or it didn't happen."

[HyperViperSniper]

How stupid.. I am not sure why teachers even bother.. I mean instead of going to college to piss it away on having sex with underage kids maybe they should get a job as a janitor or something.. wouldnt waste years in college to give the pussy away..


HVS

[Darko]

If this trend keeps up we will run out of "luckiest boy in america medals"

[Team Cable]

Once again these "victims" probably did what I would do if I was a young 14- or 15-year-old: high five all my friends and tell them the gruesome details.

[white shadow]

These incidents make me slowly lose faith in humanity, and by "humanity" I mean teenage boys who can't keept their mouths shut.

[Rhythm1c]

So, I wonder if this was a man who had sex with female students you all would still be typing out "victims" with quotes and making a joke out of it?

I mean, It is the same thing right?

[Team Cable]

So, I wonder if this was a man who had sex with female students you all would still be typing out "victims" with quotes and making a joke out of it?

I mean, It is the same thing right?

Oh, fuck that, guys are never the victim of shit like this. It is a fucking honor to get your cherry popped by a teacher.

But for girls they are all emotional and shit and they usually are the victim of some type of smooth criminal who talks about all kinds of elaborate bullshit and next thing they know it, they're bleeding all over some 40-year-old guy's dick.

Back to the guys. It's easy to say keep your mouth shut now. But how about back then? When beating M. Bison on level 8 was a big deal, I'm pretty sure boning Ms. Cutie who's 10-15 years older than everyone would come up in conversation.

[Rhythm1c]

Oh, fuck that, guys are never the victim of shit like this. It is a fucking honor to get your cherry popped by a teacher.

But for girls they are all emotional and shit and they usually are the victim of some type of smooth criminal who talks about all kinds of elaborate bullshit and next thing they know it, they're bleeding all over some 40-year-old guy's dick.




And thus the feminist propaganda machine claims another victim.


Male sexuality = demonized
Female sexuality = pure and innocent. Right? No such thing as a woman who wants to fuck a teacher because she finds him "hot" right? Women are attracted to power and authority yet you find it hard to belive a girl couldn't be attracted to somebody with power and authority? She has to be "tricked" into it?

Most 12 year old girls have already sucked off multple guys nowadays. Hardly "Innocent."

But we can't acknowledge that NO.

what a tool box.

[Night]

And thus the feminist propaganda machine claims another victim.


Male sexuality = demonized
Female sexuality = pure and innocent. Right? No such thing as a woman who wants to fuck a teacher because she finds him "hot" right? Women are attracted to power and authority yet you find it hard to belive a girl couldn't be attracted to somebody with power and authority? She has to be "tricked" into it?

Most 12 year old girls have already sucked off multple guys nowadays. Hardly "Innocent."

But we can't acknowledge that NO.

what a tool box.

Yeah, that one South Park episode that "niiiiiice" one or whatever touches on that too heh.

"OMG a female student molested by a perverted teacher? RACK HIM UP! If that were my sweet daughter I'll tear his balls off myself for victimizing her! Oh wait... it was a woman teacher? Heh, the only crime committed here is that she isn't fucking ME!" *high fives every other guy in the room*

[ruthless_nash]

meh.. not bad.. id hit it

[Biolink]

I need a full-body pic to judge her.Going by face appearence alone,she is the least attractive of sexed up teachers to make the news.

Doesn't mean I wouldn't smash,but her face ain't all that.

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I need a full-body pic to judge her.Going by face appearence alone,she is the least attractive of sexed up teachers to make the news.

Doesn't mean I wouldn't smash,but her face ain't all that.

oh man she's not the least attractive...their was sum burly bitch that made the rounds earlier...bitch was uuggllly.

[Biolink]

oh man she's not the least attractive...their was sum burly bitch that made the rounds earlier...bitch was uuggllly.

:rofl:

I've yet to see her,so I can't judge the last one,but I'll take you word for it.

[Million]

Deb Lafave is still the Queen of Molestation™. She was clearly the hottest. There's actually too many of these stories lately...isn't the newsmedia getting tired of covering the same situation? Everyone in this country has done the usual discussion points a billion times over by now:
-some will pretend to be outraged.
-Others like myself will say the usual "Where were these teachers when I was in school?! My teachers were fat, old, ugly, or all 3!"
-I mention my undying love and infatuation for the amazing Ms. Walters, my old Life Science teacher in 7th grade. People then get annoyed because this commentary has been done to death already.
-"niiiiiice." South Park references go on for a few pages.
-people post about how the kids are stupid for telling someone, but then get reminded that if you hit the hot teacher back in your day...you would've told a friend, and word would eventually spread, killing the good thing you have going on. ...and this is most likely how at least 90% of these cases became known.

-thread finally dies off.

[Taichi]

my guess is that most of these boys didn't spill the beans to their parents, but rather to their friends, who became jealous because THEY weren't fucking Miss Hot Fuck.

and they told THEIR parents, who blew the whistle.

I don't think these kids who are actually being humped are turning the free fuck mobile over to their parents, they're just bragging (as teenage guys do), to jealous third parties, who wanna ruin the fun, because they aren't in on it.

[Satomiblood]

Telling one person is like telling everyone. Then again, the article did say school officials came across an inappropriate letter.

[maxx]

Deb Lafave is still the Queen of Molestation™. She was clearly the hottest. There's actually too many of these stories lately...isn't the newsmedia getting tired of covering the same situation? Everyone in this country has done the usual discussion points a billion times over by now:
-some will pretend to be outraged.
-Others like myself will say the usual "Where were these teachers when I was in school?! My teachers were fat, old, ugly, or all 3!"
-I mention my undying love and infatuation for the amazing Ms. Walters, my old Life Science teacher in 7th grade. People then get annoyed because this commentary has been done to death already.
-"niiiiiice." South Park references go on for a few pages.
-people post about how the kids are stupid for telling someone, but then get reminded that if you hit the hot teacher back in your day...you would've told a friend, and word would eventually spread, killing the good thing you have going on. ...and this is most likely how at least 90% of these cases became known.

-thread finally dies off.

thing is...shit would have spread slower if u told anyone..all we had was im and not everyone had aim back in 97 and before...also we had aol chat...and no one believed anyone on there. good lord aol chat was broken...old ass dudes would solicit the teens chat like it was a pedo playground..that shit was not cool.

we didnt have all the technology to tell all our friends now we got lj/xanga/myspace/cell phones.

[Bounce]

not up to florida standards, but still decent.


we will give her about 4 on nioce meter.

5- probation
4- community service
3- jail time (club fed style)
2- jail time (medium security)
1- doin time in the state penn, hope u dont mind salad.

[maxx]

not up to florida standards, but still decent.


we will give her about 4 on nioce meter.

5- probation
4- community service
3- jail time (club fed style)
2- jail time (medium security)
1- doin time in the state penn, hope u dont mind salad.

5 kids man...thats at least a 3l.

lol if ur a guy teacher its automatically 2 or above and if ur a guy teacher with a boy its instanly a 1, unless u gotta good lawyer.

[Rhythm1c]

There's actually too many of these stories lately...isn't the newsmedia getting tired of covering the same situation?


Media sensationalism at its best.


This isn't anything new and it happens more than people for whatever reasons want to belive. I know a few people who have fucked around with teachers both male and female.

It is nothing new really. Just news agencies trying to grab ratings hoping this type of story is still hot after that one really attractive blond teacher made headlines. That was only shocking because she is hot enough to pick up nearly any guy she wanted and chose a kid. While it is mostly ugly ones who prey on kids.

[PcLanAdmin2]

oh man she's not the least attractive...their was sum burly bitch that made the rounds earlier...bitch was uuggllly.


LOL, I remember that one -- the meth head teacher that threw parties for her son's friends, got them high on meth, and fucked them one-by-one in her bedroom.

[Shaft Agent]

the pic of the Buddhist kid getting shaved cracked me up :lol:

on-topic: Rhytm1c is right about how this ain't something new. when i was in high school, we had a teacher that fucked students. yes she was hot, and yes she got away with it. a friend of mine, who lived in another area, said 4 of his teachers fucked students. y'all were just unlucky when it came to edu-hos.

[Dem-Dem]

So, I wonder if this was a man who had sex with female students you all would still be typing out "victims" with quotes and making a joke out of it?

I mean, It is the same thing right?

Rhythm obviously you either are a female are live in a sensory deprivation tank. Where the hell have you been for the last 20 years cause I can tell it's not in this world. us guys (which I think that your not) are forced in a you must have sex state of mind. That's way so many guys watch porn not really because we won't too but because we're victoms of mental conditioning.

Back to the topic the teacher is a slut I'd bang it raw leave her with a brown baby then dissapear.

[Rhythm1c]

Rhythm obviously you either are a female are live in a sensory deprivation tank. Where the hell have you been for the last 20 years cause I can tell it's not in this world. us guys (which I think that your not) are forced in a you must have sex state of mind. That's way so many guys watch porn not really because we won't too but because we're victoms of mental conditioning.

Back to the topic the teacher is a slut I'd bang it raw leave her with a brown baby then dissapear.





Right, So you are one of those idiots who belive women somehow don't want and need and enjoy sex too right? Only men somehow want need and enjoy sex is what you are saying? Thus, That is why it is wrong for an adult male to have sex with a 15-16 year old girl because girls DON'T LIKE TEH SEX OMG THEY MUST BE TRIX INTO IT!!!11!!1! Or at least that is why I am getting from your fucked up post. Can hardly read that shit.


Get real kid. Those 14-15-16 year old girls bang grown men all the fucking time and love every bit of it. They aren't tricked into it.
5 bucks says you are virgin who probably can barly even talk to girls. Only manginas who don't understand and can't get a woman buy into the crap you belive in.

All those girl you probably sit around sneaking peaks at in your middle school class have probably sucked more dick than the pornstars you jerk off to have.

[Rhythm1c]

See, This is where the whole AFC/nice guy finish last shit comes from.


Feminized men who have bought into all the propaganda about how bad,wrong and evil male sexuaity is in comparison to how good,pure and innocent female sexuality is.

You get guys who are ashamed of their own sexuality and repressed the fact they are sexual beings. They belive somehow women must be "tricked" into fucking them. That their pussies are so high valued that they must give all sorts of shit to even see one. That is why "nice guys" though they aren't really nice they are just pussies really.
That is why they hide their sexuality from women thinking it would "scare" them off and mask it as "wanting to respect" them.

That is why the "assholes" get laid though they aren't really assholes. They are just guys that not only know what they are but aren't afriad to show it. They aren't scared of showing women they are sexual beings and women respond to THAT. why?
BECAUSE WOMEN WANT THAT BECAUSE THEY TOO ARE SEXUAL BEINGS.

While the chump is too scared to even approach sexual tension because he is in fear of his own sexuality. The "asshole" turns it on full blast.

I also have to remind you all. That the whole "it is wrong to have sex with somebody who isn't 18" is a recent addition to culture.

Female sexuality isn't something "special" or "innocent" and there is NOTHING wrong with male sexuality. Don't buy into that crap double standard.

[Hsiangsta]

um, Dem-Dem, sexuality is a biological part of us. Our bodies are attracted to sex by nature, not by social conditioning. Sure, social conditioning plays it up a lot, but when it comes down to it, guys wanna get laid, period.

some social conditioning is well implemented like incest (thinking that shit is fucked up for me), but if i saw a hot 14 year old or some hot teacher, first instinct is damn i wanna fuck that bitch

thats just instinct, acting on it is a diff matter and something i will most likely not do

but dude if a hot girl teacher wanted to fuck me, hellz fuckin yea (unless she had STDs)

[Rhythm1c]

um, Dem-Dem, sexuality is a biological part of us. Our bodies are attracted to sex by nature, not by social conditioning. Sure, social conditioning plays it up a lot, but when it comes down to it, guys wanna get laid, period.

some social conditioning is well implemented like incest (thinking that shit is fucked up for me), but if i saw a hot 14 year old or some hot teacher, first instinct is damn i wanna fuck that bitch

thats just instinct, acting on it is a diff matter and something i will most likely not do

but dude if a hot girl teacher wanted to fuck me, hellz fuckin yea (unless she had STDs)



Thank you, The reverse holds true for females.
There are plenty of cases where it is the female student who hits on and makes herself avalible to the young new good looking and in shape assistant football coach. He makes a good fling inbetween the times she is blowing some popular jock or thug.

Also knew plenty of girls in middle school and highschool who had college boyfriends......a few even older......

[KryptoniteBoots]

We seriously should have a teacher molestation thread and it should be stickied....I know how that statement sounds and I'm not changing it.

On topic, at 14 or 15 I'd beat with no rap, those are the wonder years of "pussy is pussy." Hell I'd probably still beat now.

[Rico!]

I'd love to be a teacher in an all girls high school...


Too bad the little whores can just accuse you without you even saying a word to them and ruin your career :bluu: :lame:

[majeh]

same old same old....this shit is getting boring

[Biolink]

I'd love to be a teacher in an all girls high school...


Too bad the little whores can just accuse you without you even saying a word to them and ruin your career :bluu: :lame:

Its probably better to be a teacher in a regular old school.You would be surprised at the amount of women who say

*Insert teacher name here* Is hot...

"I'd fuck him"

[Azrael]

the pic of the Buddhist kid getting shaved cracked me up :lol:
:rofl: F'real. Looked like dude was getting his head cut with a lawnmower or something.

[Septimus Prime]

Look, I know a few of you read The Game, and that's fine and dandy, but stop saying AFC on SRK, thanks.

[Against Me!]

How come no one has mentioned that this bitch is MARRIED?! :confused: Talk about crushing your confidence.. not only does your woman cheat on you but she does it with 5 14-15 year olds...

and Rhythm1c are you a pedophile?

[maxx]

How come no one has mentioned that this bitch is MARRIED?! :confused: Talk about crushing your confidence.. not only does your woman cheat on you but she does it with 5 14-15 year olds...

and Rhythm1c are you a pedophile?

lol half of srk are pedos in secret

[Against Me!]

lol half of srk are pedos in secret

for real isn't this guy talking as if he's trying to justify having sex with young teenage girls?

[Rhythm1c]

for real isn't this guy talking as if he's trying to justify having sex with young teenage girls?




You mean in the same way everybody is justifing having sex with young teenage boys? Noticed you failed to point that out. You probably didn't even make that same connection did you?

I'm pointing out a double standard and why that double standard is shit. Comprehension skills for the win.

[Against Me!]

You mean in the same way everybody is justifing having sex with young teenage boys? Noticed you failed to point that out. You probably didn't even make that same connection did you?

I'm pointing out a double standard and why that double standard is shit. Comprehension skills for the win.

:confused: who here is justifying having sex with teenage boys? i'm on the wrong fuckin forum then

:rofl: in all seriousness do you have a pair of balls? did you attend high school in the last 5 years? if so how can you not empathize with the rest of these guys. this shit is just macho posturing that you're taking way too seriously. when we become older and have sons of own i'm sure our opinion will change.

until then as guys, we know how guys think and how it's fucked up for a grown ass man to sleep with a girl. you can say all the bs you want about societal influences but the fact is we're all guys and we don't want some piece of shit to be sleeping with our younger sister or daughter. we know that guy doesn't want to 'get to know' her or 'loves her for her personality.' he's a sick twisted fucker and anyone that sleeps with a 15 or 16 year old is a scum bag.

the teacher is a scumbag too... but i don't think we would've minded.

and the fact that you spouted off the de facto pedophile excuse of "you know this idea of only over 18 being right is new" doesn't help your case

[Rhythm1c]

:confused: who here is justifying having sex with teenage boys? i'm on the wrong fuckin forum then

:rofl: in all seriousness do you have a pair of balls? did you attend high school in the last 5 years? if so how can you not empathize with the rest of these guys. this shit is just macho posturing that you're taking way too seriously. when we become older and have sons of own i'm sure our opinion will change.

until then as guys, we know how guys think and how it's fucked up for a grown ass man to sleep with a girl. you can say all the bs you want about societal influences but the fact is we're all guys and we don't want some piece of shit to be sleeping with our younger sister or daughter. we know that guy doesn't want to 'get to know' her or 'loves her for her personality.' he's a sick twisted fucker and anyone that sleeps with a 15 or 16 year old is a scum bag.

the teacher is a scumbag too... but i don't think we would've minded.

and the fact that you spouted off the de facto pedophile excuse of "you know this idea of only over 18 being right is new" doesn't help your case




Do you just realized you too, Just tried to justified young teenage boys having sex with adults?

My point and my ONLY point though I know this will be in one ear and out the other is that you are just another brainwashed minion who feel for the feminist propaganda machine.

Male sexuality = demonized
Female sexuality = good, pure and innocent.

You note that most young boys want sex and because of that it isn't a big deal that they have sex with adult women. Yet you now find it hard to belive that a teenage girl would NOT want to do the same? They must be "tricked" into it?

we know that guy doesn't want to 'get to know' her or 'loves her for her personality.'


AND WHO IS TO SAY SHE DOES?
Do you think your younger sister wanted to "get to know and liked the personality of all the boys dicks she sucked that are in her class? The dick of the jock at her highschool? No,

Men and Womens sexuality isn't as different as people like you love to make it out to be. It has been my only point. A point you are too stupid to grasp.
Don't worry I understand why you are getting all pissed off about it. It is what happens when somebody sees something that challenges their worldview.

As for your red herring injection here
you know this idea of only over 18 being right is new
And it isn't, My point isn't that we shoudl all be fucking 15 year olds, My point is that by this age we become the biological sexual beings by natures design and thus is the reason why teenegers go ahead and fuck. Why they want too and why they do. Because it is instinct for both genders to get together and fuck past pueburty.


The same reasons why some 16 year old boy would bang his female teacher are the very SAME reasons why some 16 year old girl would bang her male teacher. Yet everybody[well not everybody, just feminized manginas] loves to pretend that she is not responsible for her actions. She didn't want to do it. He somehow TRICKED her!

Hence, When they get caught the male teacher gets put away for 20 years. When its a female who gets caught everybody goes.... Niiiiiceeeee......


Guys who think women have to be "tricked" into having sex are the same guys who never get laid. Who complain that assholes get all the chicks and theyget "lets just be friends" because they hide and fear their own sexuality since they belive male sexuality is "wrong" and "evil".

They put pussies on pedestols because they belive female sexuality to be pure and somehow more value. This is the wrong mindset and it is a mindset that has fucked over a generation of men and have made them pussies.

But hey, Pick up artist are getting rich off them. Since these same men run around paying 1000s to reclaim and not be afriad of their own sexuality. So at least there are some winners in all of this.




Bottom line/cliff notes for the lazy.
Both male and females fuck. Young boys want their female teachers in the same way young girls want their male teachers. Thus, If we make an example punishment for one sex. It should be the same for the other. Saying it is more ok for female pedophiles because young boys want it and young girls don't and must be tricked into it is wrong and ignorant.
Equal punishment for an equal crime. No more demonization of male sexuality. No more sexual double standards.

[Azrael]

I'm pointing out a double standard and why that double standard is shit. Comprehension skills for the win.
Yes, there is a double standard. You assume that the sexuality of guys and girls are the same, and that makes the double standard unfair. But guys and girls sexuality is NOT the same - they're two entirely different beasts.

Where a boy can walk away from the situation, it is much more likely to fuck a girl up psychologically. Granted, the reverse is also true - the boy gets fucked up and the girl is perfectly fine. But usually, if someone's going to recieve psychological damage from that kind of thing, it's going to be the female.

Granted, either situation is still a horrible abuse of power, but the boys have a better chance of coming out of it relatively unscathed.

EDIT
To the above post...where'd you get all this bitterness towards women?

And out of curiousity, according to you women are just as sexual as men are. Then, why are the VAST MAJORITY of rape cases male -> female?

[Rhythm1c]

Yes, there is a double standard. You assume that the sexuality of guys and girls are the same, and that makes the double standard unfair. But guys and girls sexuality is NOT the same - they're two entirely different beasts.

Where a boy can walk away from the situation, it is much more likely to fuck a girl up psychologically. Granted, the reverse is also true - the boy gets fucked up and the girl is perfectly fine. But usually, if someone's going to recieve psychological damage from that kind of thing, it's going to be the female.

Granted, either situation is still a horrible abuse of power, but the boys have a better chance of coming out of it relatively unscathed.




You belive that somehow the woman will end up psychological worse off. I am positive you belive that for the exact same issue I've brought up before.

Female sexuality = pure and innocent. Thus because of that train of thought you would conclude they would be a greater hurt and confusion. Because she had to be "tricked" into it. As she would be more naive.

This is not the case and I have seen this over and over and over again. I am 100 percent postive that you have too. Just social programing over a lifetime makes you turn a blind eye too it.
Same as the "all men are created equal" was written into the constitution by people who owned slaves....... Didn't process since it was the social norm.


You can see this same sexual double standard in place when the "a guy can sleep around and it is ok but a girl is seen as a slut"
It is a double standard and there isnt much of a reason there needs to be one except to hold on to some outdated victorian views on sex and relationships between the genders.

[The_Dragon]

Not to mention the abundance of female prostitutes in comparison to male prostitutes. Females like sex, yes, but men LOVE sex.

[Rhythm1c]

And out of curiousity, according to you women are just as sexual as men are. Then, why are the VAST MAJORITY of rape cases male -> female?



first.
Not many ways for a woman to rape a man............

Not only that, It is much easier for a woman to get her needs satisfied in the first place. Thus not having to take it by force.


this is going by the idea that rape is NOT an issue of power and control like so many in the media love to say it is [this is to normalize it and further demonized men by making it seem as if it is a male trait]

In general it is about sex. When a woman wants it more often she can get it fairly easy. Not so much for men.

[Shaft Agent]

:rofl: F'real. Looked like dude was getting his head cut with a lawnmower or something.

dude: "that's it you little shit, you're getting... THE KOJACK."

kid: "SIDDHARTHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!"

[Rhythm1c]

Not to mention the abundance of female prostitutes in comparison to male prostitutes. Females like sex, yes, but men LOVE sex.



There is more of a market for men looking to pay for sex because it is much much much easier for a woman to get sex.

The same issue as why there are more male rapes. Less women who are sexually frustrated looking for an easy way out.

Who goes to jiggilos and pays? Mostly old and fat chicks who would have a harder time. Why would an average chick pay if all she has to do is go to a bar and pick a guy up?


In the dating game, Men do the work.


Notice that more guys complain about not getting laid in general. Women complain about not getting that one rich succcessful man of their dreams that comes in and swopes them off their feet to live the american dream of a nice house and 4 kids.
That is because most of them can and know they can have their normal sexual needs met.



Remember, This was the main reason everybody was so taken aback by debra lavarve or however her name is spelt.
Here was this young and very attractive blond white woman. Could have her pick of men yet choose some 15 year old kid? Woah NO WAI! Something must be wrong with her.

[CoMpOuNd]

In general it is about sex. When a woman wants it more often she can get it fairly easy. Not so much for men.

A man can also get it easy though, just by playing his cards right and not being an idiot.

Or a way women can never fully understand. Surprise fuckin sex, yep. RAPE, sure some bitches won't understand why we rape them. That's because they will never have a penis, wich can be used in the struggle before the rape. They are also not twice the size, and 1000000x stronger then then their opposite sex. But a man is...

EDIT: I'm not supporting rape in any way.... :wgrin:

word.

[Azrael]

Female sexuality = pure and innocent. Thus because of that train of thought you would conclude they would be a greater hurt and confusion. Because she had to be "tricked" into it. As she would be more naive.
I never said female sexuality is pure and innocent. Just, it works much differently.

Arousal for men and women work in very different ways. We men, we'll become aroused for anything. A hot picture, if the wind blows just right, hell, we have erections for no good reason at all. Female arousal is not this simple (Lord knows I wish it was though...). Depending on the girl, there may be times when she is naturally horny (to coincide with her cycles) but other than that, there may be other mental and emotional factors that come into play.

It just doesn't work the same.

This is not the case and I have seen this over and over and over again. I am 100 percent postive that you have too. Just social programing over a lifetime makes you turn a blind eye too it.
While I do agree that there's a certain amount of social programming at work, female arousal just works differently. Biologically speaking. Even though we're creating a society where sex is enjoyed for pleasure, fundamentally its purpose is still reproduction. The system makes sense to have one side always ready, and the other only (naturally) ready when the time is right.

You can see this same sexual double standard in place when the "a guy can sleep around and it is ok but a girl is seen as a slut"
It is a double standard and there isnt much of a reason there needs to be one except to hold on to some outdated victorian views on sex and relationships between the genders.
I don't like that double standard much either. Victorian or otherwise though, it exists because, as you said, women have a choice of who they want to have sex with. Men can't afford to be so flexible. This is just another product of our sexualities being so different.

For men, having sex is kind of like an accomplishment. It means the woman accepted you (and your cock) as worthy seed/good pleasure. However, since women have this choice, giving it away too easily is seen as weakness. There is no accomplishment for the woman to have sex because, as you said, she can get it anytime she wants. The strength comes from her choosing her partners wisely - only the best of the best. It's like of like how we respect a HS grad who can get into an Ivy League school like Harvard, but if you go to the local community college - who cares?

Note that the double standard works in reverse too. Men who don't have a lot of sex are viewed as weak, while women who do have few sexual partners are viewed as strong and desireable.

Not only that, It is much easier for a woman to get her needs satisfied in the first place. Thus not having to take it by force.
Which is what I've been saying here. Thus, the double standard.

But, relating back to the topic, not all rape cases are violent, pull her in an alleyway and pin her down rapes. A lot are date rapes - the guy thought he was going to get lucky, the girl disagreed, and the guy figured he was going to go ahead and take it anyway. Or, the girl ends up sleeping with the guy, but then regrets it in the morning for whatever reason (the most common being impaired judgement due to alcohol).

I personally know a few girls who claim rape through these types of cases. I don't agree with the whole "changed my mind the next day" rape, but obviously to these women, it's enough of a psychological impact to call it rape. What I'm getting at is, you never hear of guys getting "raped" like this. If a guy goes on a date with a girl, and suddenly she jumps on him wanting sex, 9 times out of 10 his reaction will be "Sweet!" Even if a guy bangs a girl and regrets it later, he certainly doesn't consider it rape. Maybe he's a little embarrased by it, and will deny it to his buddies, but it doesn't leave any psychological scars.

That's where the sexes are different. Where men can take a bad sexual experience and brush it off, to a woman it can do some serious psychological damage. You can't hold both sexes to the same standard here because our systems just work in completely different ways.

[Million]

I don't agree with the whole "changed my mind the next day" rape,^a little example of how they hold too much goddamn power. Those types of bitches need to have their heads cut off...preferrably in a public setting, like the old guillotine days....then I could come over and piss and shit on her severed head....that would make me feel very good.

This thread has become good stuff...carry on please.

[Taichi]

as long as men make more money in the corporate world, hot female teachers should be able to fuck young boys and get a slap on the wrist.

equal pay means equal jailtime.

[Rhythm1c]

Arousal for men and women work in very different ways. We men, we'll become aroused for anything. A hot picture, if the wind blows just right, hell, we have erections for no good reason at all. Female arousal is not this simple (Lord knows I wish it was though...). Depending on the girl, there may be times when she is naturally horny (to coincide with her cycles) but other than that, there may be other mental and emotional factors that come into play.


But I've seen it multiple times be damn simple. Plenty of times I've seen a woman meet a guy and fuck him that same night because he turned her on. He was hot. It can happen because he is famous and powerful or rich.

Man sees hot woman he wants her. Woman sees hot/rich/famous/powerful man she wants him.
hesitation on any part of the woman is only conditioning that makes her view what she is doing as wrong and as a "slut"
That is where the last minute resistance is usally from.
I can't do him this easy it would make me a slut. better make him jump though a few more hoops and find a way to make me non responsible for it.

Women are not the complex beings people make them out to be. They are just as simple as men. Though fine, i'll agree and say they may be simple for different reasons.


While I do agree that there's a certain amount of social programming at work, female arousal just works differently. Biologically speaking. Even though we're creating a society where sex is enjoyed for pleasure, fundamentally its purpose is still reproduction. The system makes sense to have one side always ready, and the other only (naturally) ready when the time is right.

Arousual can be as simple as I explained above. Women go into withold mode when they are looking to "settle" down. That is the only "holding" out really.
That is why female promiscuity rose right after the feminist movement. They no longer need to hurry and hitch a man to support them. They can wait.
Thus, You see women clubbing it up and having plenty of no string attached sex. Only years later when they look for marraige they clean up the act.

For men, having sex is kind of like an accomplishment. It means the woman accepted you (and your cock) as worthy seed/good pleasure. However, since women have this choice, giving it away too easily is seen as weakness. There is no accomplishment for the woman to have sex because, as you said, she can get it anytime she wants. The strength comes from her choosing her partners wisely - only the best of the best. It's like of like how we respect a HS grad who can get into an Ivy League school like Harvard, but if you go to the local community college - who cares?

This is another thing that needs to go and is a reason for a lot of the issues between both genders.
Sex isn't and should never be some sort of trump card.

On one hand you have more and more promiscuity and yet we are all trying so hard to hold on to those outdated ideas that you need to "win" sex or somehow "Trick" her into it. It does nothing but causes problems. We can't hold on to both but we are trying damn hard to. It really needs to be one or the other. Either we embrace chasity or we embrace promiscuity.

And this is the crux of my issue really. It isn't so much that I am in favor of pushing everything towards absolute promiscuity or victorian chasity. I am sick of the hypocritical nature of people trying to hold BOTH ideologies. It doesn't work.


the girl ends up sleeping with the guy, but then regrets it in the morning for whatever reason (the most common being impaired judgement due to alcohol).

I don't and never will consider this rape. This is proganda by radical feminist looking to expand the idea of rape as much as possible.
There are plenty of guys who have had sex and then regret it. That doesn't count as rape however. They move on.

There was a time where women just moved on. They only have it in their head that this is "rape" because radical feminist have spewed that crap since they were born. For reasons that would be off topic. I'll save that for another time.


it's enough of a psychological impact to call it rape. What I'm getting at is, you never hear of guys getting "raped" like this. If a guy goes on a date with a girl, and suddenly she jumps on him wanting sex, 9 times out of 10 his reaction will be "Sweet!" Even if a guy bangs a girl and regrets it later, he certainly doesn't consider it rape. Maybe he's a little embarrased by it, and will deny it to his buddies, but it doesn't leave any psychological scars.

Every time I've heard of this. It was always a case of a woman regretting giving it up too early and was scared she would look like a slut.
Thus call it rape and she gets absovled of the responsiblity. I have never seen a woman have "psycological scars" from boning some guy and then seconed guessed herself afterwards and then decided a week later to call it rape.

The only women i know who were fucked up from it were those who were actually raped. Held down and forced insertion.

Remember, that guy can only sweat it off as a bit embarassed because of the same double standard we are talking about.
In cases where a woman regrets it. She is scared it would count against her "number" and make her a "slut"
In her mind. It no longer counts because it was "rape"

This is why you get so many false rape reports happen.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=436592&in_page_id=1770
It is about avoiding responsiblity.

There is an unspeakable truth out there. That unspeakable truth is that many cases of "rape" are actually false accusations.

http://www.americandaily.com/article/5075
http://www.billoblog.com/billoblog/?p=134
Key sentence
According to Silverman, a Denver sex-assault unit commander estimates that nearly half of all reported rape claims are false.
Ouch.


I also disagree with that 9 times out of 10 on just one basis.
That would only be true if she was attractive. I've seen that happen to my friends where it was some fat ugly gross bitch and they were revolted by it.

Same why a girl 9 times out of 10 would go right along andbe like "SWEET I GET TO FUCK HIM" when its a famous celeb.
I'll go as far along as to admit that what each sex finds "attractive" is different. But that is all. After that it works in general the same. Backed up in my opinion empirically.

Popular jocks in HS get all the chicks.
Men who are well off have no issues finding women.
Pysical attractive men get women.
number 1 and 3 get those easy flings. Number 2 get the longer term marraige.

That was one of the reasons a few of my female friends have fucked their teachers and did so willingly.
1- they figured they were hot and were attracted to the authority they had. In the same way He probably boned them because they were "hot".

Now, Don't look at this as me trying to say it should all be just fine and dandy and allowed. No. It is against the law and that is final.

My issue is the same that I bought up before. I can't stand the hypocritical nature that people look at this issue as.

[Rhythm1c]

as long as men make more money in the corporate world, hot female teachers should be able to fuck young boys and get a slap on the wrist.

equal pay means equal jailtime.




Is that some sort of jab at the idea that women don't make as much as men due to discrimination?
Because if so that isn't true.

http://www.iwf.org/issues/issues_detail.asp?ArticleID=750
http://www.iwf.org/issues/issues_detail.asp?ArticleID=749
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba392/ba392.pdf
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba392/


Wage gap exist mostly due to womens choices in the workplace.

[Kuenai]

As for Rythm1c: You are well-informed, but you are wrong in MANY places. First of all, the idea of men's sexuality being demonized and women's being put forth as pure. It is NOT a women's feminist idea. It was pushed by them, but it was originally created by MALE INTELLECTUALS during the Victorian era. Your disdain towards women is once again misplaced.

MEN AND WOMEN ARE NOT EQUALLY HORNY. Or however you want to word it. There's a reason for only a bit over 70% of women mastrubating while over 90% of men do. It's because they are NOT as focused on sex in the way males are. You're speaking to someone with years of Psychology under their belt. Human Sexuality, General Psychology, Developmental Psychology, Abnormal Psychology, Sociology, etc. Women simply ARE NOT the sexual beings men are. It completely differs by person. My last girlfriend was twice as horny as me, yet the one before that hasn't had sex in two years. On average, women have much less of a sexual drive. It's not until the mid-late 20's where the drive kicks in as much. Hence the young teachers fucking students.

The double-standard is also biologically based. Take silver back gorillas, for example. They take one male to a pack of females, and when any male offspring become large enough to mate, they are booted out to find their own pussy. As many as they can get, because it is in nature to CONTINUE OUR BLOODLINE. That means fuck as many girls as possible, while the women are guaranteed their bloodline's continuance with the male of their pick. Instincts are biological, but all primates require socialization. That's where the double-standard is reinforced.

I could continue this for forever, but I have other matters that require my attention right now. Ciao!

[1/2Man1/2God]

if the teacher is male then this is gross if not who cares.people always gettin there little cock taken by these teachers,WHO THE FUCK KEEPS SNITCHIN!how does 50 keep findin out about teachers fuckin kids.Faggot ass lil kid prolly ratted.I know if was a young dude and I was fuckin the teacher i wouldn't say shit.

[Taichi]

of course not, because if you were fucking the teacher, 1: he'd be male, and 2: you wouldn't wanna give up the only sex you'll likely ever get.




Is that some sort of jab at the idea that women don't make as much as men due to discrimination?
Because if so that isn't true.

http://www.iwf.org/issues/issues_detail.asp?ArticleID=750
http://www.iwf.org/issues/issues_detail.asp?ArticleID=749
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba392/ba392.pdf
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba392/


Wage gap exist mostly due to womens choices in the workplace.

No, that's a joke that you obviously didn't get, so you fail.

[CoMpOuNd]

of course not, because if you were fucking the teacher, 1: he'd be male, and 2: you wouldn't wanna give up the only sex you'll likely ever get.

OH NO HE DIDN'T!!!!!!

[Rhythm1c]

It was pushed by them, but it was originally created by MALE INTELLECTUALS during the Victorian era. Your disdain towards women is once again misplaced.



I've already said those were created during the victorian era. I said it multiple times.

The issue here, now in this era is that is still being pushed with much vigor BY radical feminist. In and effort to demonize male sexuality and push female sexuality in a positive light. They are doing this while at the same time pushing for a more promiscuois culture.

They are doing this in a way that benefits women completly and only. You can't take from both ideologies in different situations where it suits you best. That is a load of crap.



nice try at "my disdain towards women" But I don't hold any disdain towards women. either be serious about this or don't bother. I've done this enough to know that crap is nothing more than a red herring to sidestep the real argument.
"You are wrong because you hate women" isn't going to work here pal. Been there done that. You want to say I hate radical man hating feminist. Then you'd be right on the money.


MEN AND WOMEN ARE NOT EQUALLY HORNY. Or however you want to word it. There's a reason for only a bit over 70% of women mastrubating while over 90% of men do. It's because they are NOT as focused on sex in the way males are. You're speaking to someone with years of Psychology under their belt. Human Sexuality, General Psychology, Developmental Psychology, Abnormal Psychology, Sociology, etc. Women simply ARE NOT the sexual beings men are. It completely differs by person. My last girlfriend was twice as horny as me, yet the one before that hasn't had sex in two years. On average, women have much less of a sexual drive. It's not until the mid-late 20's where the drive kicks in as much. Hence the young teachers fucking students.


See, Everybody keeps bringing this all up yet there is something EVERYBODY always IGNORES COMPLETLY.
The fact that you can SEE this is wrong by just casual observation. A 20 percent different in who masturbates? That is suppose to be a big enough difference as to the idea that a woman doesn't want sex as much as men?

Come on.

I love the very contradiction you put in there.My last girlfriend was twice as horny as me, yet the one before that hasn't had sex in two years
And I too, Know people where this was true with the genders reversed.


This is amazing that you all are defending to the death the idea that somehow women must be TRICKED into sex and can not WANT it just in the same idea of how MEN want it.

As I said before. It is those with that idea in their head that often end up being the guys who have a hard time getting laid.

While those who do realize that women.. As well are sexual beings have less issues with getting laid.

That is why the muscular thug bangs the hot chicks some guys lust after.

As I said before, I will agree that what makes a woman become attractive to a man is different. But the end result is the same. Another thing about the 20 percent less women masturbating.

More women have an easier time getting regular sex than men.
When iw as getting regular sex, I didn't ever really masturbate. Thus, Based on that alone it would make perfect sense that the number would be lower.

I see nothing but promiscuious women.

The only reason I could think of that I would see this shit more often than most of you would be if you all lived in more conservative areas.
Me, I am in southern california, Liberal and shallow. As such there is a much more progressive sexual culture here that would be different than a place in the rural and religious south for example.

All I have to do to contradic all of this is just go into san diego night scene and I am treated to women behaving sexually in nearly the same manner of men. I am sure most here could do the same if they live in a big city.

[TheSix]

This whole thread is a DLV.

[Rhythm1c]

Here are simple questions that would end all of this completly.



Do you belive a woman can have sex with a man for the sake of having sex with a man. Because she finds him attractive regardless of the different reasons she can find him attractive in the same way a guy can just fuck a woman he thinks is hot?

[Team Cable]

Jesus, Rhythm1c, did you join SRK just to argue that having sex with teachers is bad if you're a guy or a girl.

[Rhythm1c]

This whole thread is a DLV.




I'm sorry.
But what does that mean?







Bah at the 150 seconds per post........

[Rhythm1c]

Jesus, Rhythm1c, did you join SRK just to argue that having sex with teachers is bad if you're a guy or a girl.




Yep, I registered a whole month ahead time anticipating this thread........


I made nearly 20-30 post or so before this thread popped up too. But we can just pretend I didn't and These have been my only post ever.

<3

[Azrael]

But I've seen it multiple times be damn simple. Plenty of times I've seen a woman meet a guy and fuck him that same night because he turned her on. He was hot. It can happen because he is famous and powerful or rich.

Man sees hot woman he wants her. Woman sees hot/rich/famous/powerful man she wants him. hesitation on any part of the woman is only conditioning that makes her view what she is doing as wrong and as a "slut" That is where the last minute resistance is usally from. I can't do him this easy it would make me a slut. better make him jump though a few more hoops and find a way to make me non responsible for it.
Where you say I'm over-complicating things, you are oversimplifying it way too much.

You're pretty much skipping right to the sex and ignoring how they got there in the first place. You have not acknowledged that arousal happens in a much, much different manner. There may be times for women where it happens just as quickly, if not faster than the male side, but that's not to say that the process is exactly the same. Are you honestly saying that women turn on exactly the same way that men do?

Have you ever been in a relationship? Like, long term? If you have, you'll know that even if it's a guy she wants to have sex with, there are times when her sex drive is just zero. The guy can try to turn her on, and sometimes it might work, and sometimes it won't. Guys on the other hand, can have sex pretty much anytime. I know - I have. Exhausted, sick, angry/depressed, seriously injured...I was still willing and able to do it.

That's not to mention that girls desire is usually focused towards one person, where guys are more general. To put it simply, guys want to have sex, but the question is who can they/do they want to do it with. Girls want to have sex, the question is if the person they want to have sex with will consent.

Arousual can be as simple as I explained above. Women go into withold mode when they are looking to "settle" down. That is the only "holding" out really.
That is why female promiscuity rose right after the feminist movement. They no longer need to hurry and hitch a man to support them. They can wait.
Thus, You see women clubbing it up and having plenty of no string attached sex. Only years later when they look for marraige they clean up the act.
I agree that for a lot of women, the hesistation to have sex factors in social pressure. I knew a lot of women who wanted to have sex with some guy but held back because she didn't want to be seen as a slut.

But it isn't 100% social pressure, not at all. You keep ignoring that the male sex drive is far more constant than the female sex drive. Remember that males are ready for and desire sex more or less everyday. Women have specific times when they get horny. As I said before, this works off their biological cycles - even if she personally doesn't feel that way, her body wants her to get pregnant. Women will become horny around the time when they are fertile. And that's just from a biological aspect, not at all mental.

So if you see women in clubs pulling guys, maybe she's at that fertile point, and wants to have sex. Consider that this isn't how she feels everyday, just during this particular cycle. Contrast this to men - who ARE horny everyday.

This is another thing that needs to go and is a reason for a lot of the issues between both genders.
Sex isn't and should never be some sort of trump card.

On one hand you have more and more promiscuity and yet we are all trying so hard to hold on to those outdated ideas that you need to "win" sex or somehow "Trick" her into it. It does nothing but causes problems. We can't hold on to both but we are trying damn hard to. It really needs to be one or the other. Either we embrace chasity or we embrace promiscuity.
You know what, I agree with you. I wish women could have more casual sexual encounters without any of the pressure or guilt. Mostly because I want to have more casual sexual encounters, and to do that I need women willing to do the same.

But its not even a matter of Victorian ideals as you put it. That's just biology kicking in. The male sex drive is considerably higher than the female sex drive. It's not a matter of if we want to have sex with a particular girl, it's a matter of we want to have sex, and does this particular girl meet our standards. When women aren't outwardly horny (which is 3/4ths of the time), if she chooses to have sex, it's not because she wants to, but because she accepts the advances of the male who does. When that happens, she too may become aroused and then want sex. But it isn't on standby like it is with us men.

That's where the standard comes from. I'd love to see it erased too but unless we can fight against genetic programming, I doubt that will happen.

Also, note that very promiscuous women are looked down upon in many societies, not just America. Christianity is virtually non-existant here in Japan, yet there still is the standard that promiscuous women are sluts. They didn't copy that from America.

I don't and never will consider this rape. This is proganda by radical feminist looking to expand the idea of rape as much as possible.
There are plenty of guys who have had sex and then regret it. That doesn't count as rape however. They move on.
I don't think of it as rape either. In fact, I flat out hate that kind of thing.

There was a time where women just moved on. They only have it in their head that this is "rape" because radical feminist have spewed that crap since they were born.
No they didn't. They just sucked it up because they had no other choice.

Again, look at cultures other than America. I live in Japan, which despite whatever the statistics tell you, has GOT to be a big contender for most rapes per country. But then again, that depends on the definition of rape.

Take the date rape scenario. Many Japanese women won't fight it - she'll just accept that this is what the man expects of her. That doesn't mean she's okay with it - and there are a LOT of women harboring feelings of resentment and violation over this kind of thing. Whether or not they are able to get over those feelings and how long it takes to do so is one thing, but the fact that they even have them just shows how differently hard-wired we men and women are.

The only women i know who were fucked up from it were those who were actually raped. Held down and forced insertion.
And I know women who were fucked up from considerably less-violent forms of rape. Not every girl who consents to sex, actually wants it. And if you were forced to do something you didn't want to do, and that something happened to be incredibly personal and private, something you would ordinarily choose to do on your terms only - wouldn't that fuck you up too?

I dislike the "morning-after" rape example, because I hate that myself. Sorry I used it. But the date-rape issue is still very real.

Remember, that guy can only sweat it off as a bit embarassed because of the same double standard we are talking about.
In cases where a woman regrets it. She is scared it would count against her "number" and make her a "slut"
In order for this to be true, women would have to be able to turn on, and ENJOY sex, in the same manner that guys do. C'mon, you KNOW that's not the case.

If a guy and a girl go out a date, and at the end he wants it, she doesn't, he rapes her anyway, do you really think that what's going through her mind is "Man, I enjoyed that, but damn, now people are gonna think I'm a slut. Better say rape"? If so, you terribly, terribly misunderstand how women work.

There is an unspeakable truth out there. That unspeakable truth is that many cases of "rape" are actually false accusations.
Y'know, I agree, as I said before, I hate the morning-after rapes. That in my book does not count.

But again, not every rape is of the violent, pin her down and make her do it variety. If she is scared for her safety, she may consent to the sexual act only because it's a better alternative to being hurt, possibly killed. Again, consent and desire are NOT the same time, and to this woman, the rape was just as violating and distressing as a woman who was pulled into an alleyway somewhere and forcibly raped.

I also disagree with that 9 times out of 10 on just one basis.
That would only be true if she was attractive. I've seen that happen to my friends where it was some fat ugly gross bitch and they were revolted by it.
Well, that's true. But that's not a matter of the guy not wanting to have sex, that's just the guy not wanting to have sex with that girl. IF the girl was one that passed his standards test, he'd more than likely approve.

Same why a girl 9 times out of 10 would go right along andbe like "SWEET I GET TO FUCK HIM" when its a famous celeb.
Not true. You can find women who would not have sex with Brad Pitt. Or Johnny Depp. Or Donald Trump (if money's your angle). Whatever.

After that it works in general the same. Backed up in my opinion empirically.
As I said before, you are skipping from right to the having sex without taking into account any of the things that go into account to get men and women to that point.

[Kuenai]

See, Everybody keeps bringing this all up yet there is something EVERYBODY always IGNORES COMPLETLY.
The fact that you can SEE this is wrong by just casual observation. A 20 percent different in who masturbates? That is suppose to be a big enough difference as to the idea that a woman doesn't want sex as much as men?

I was giving ONE EXAMPLE of the difference in sexual drive. And it is a VERY important fact, if you have a brain. Do you? I'm starting to wonder if your closed-mindedness isn't retardation.

Come on.

Come on.

I love the very contradiction you put in there.My last girlfriend was twice as horny as me, yet the one before that hasn't had sex in two years
And I too, Know people where this was true with the genders reversed.

Once again, your closed-mindedness astounds me. It isn't a contradiction in any way, shape, or form. It was support for my previous statement in that it varies completely from person to person. You must see that if it varies from person to person, your generalizations are just as ignorant as any Femi-Nazi's. Yes, I do use the word. Some feminists are FUCKING IDIOTS.


This is amazing that you all are defending to the death the idea that somehow women must be TRICKED into sex and can not WANT it just in the same idea of how MEN want it.

Who supported the idea that women must be tricked into sex? NOBODY HERE. They could want it in the same way men want it. Nobody said the opposite. I said that our reasons for sexual drive are different. Desire is separate.

As I said before. It is those with that idea in their head that often end up being the guys who have a hard time getting laid.

Yup. They must indeed. I, on the other hand, HAVE A BRAIN. Desire is different from drive. There is intrinsic motivation involved in desire,(lust) while there is extrinsic motivation involved in other things you mentioned (Like the rich guys). You're not accepting when you're wrong. Twisting a statement to support your agenda will not make you any more correct in the matter. I'm not stating opinion in my points, I'm going off of well-respected and documented scientists and psychologists. If someone brings up Freud though, I'll tear their ignorant lungs out. Psychosexual stages my ass.

While those who do realize that women.. As well are sexual beings have less issues with getting laid.

No-one here denies women as sexual beings. They are not pure, they are simply less sexually fixated than men. I have no trouble at all. I'm in college right now. There are loose women abound, but I can assure you that the majority are more pure than the guys.

That is why the muscular thug bangs the hot chicks some guys lust after.

As I said before, I will agree that what makes a woman become attractive to a man is different. But the end result is the same. Another thing about the 20 percent less women masturbating.

Wha??? Relevance? Please? Oh. Right. Invert that sentence. And throw it out the window.

More women have an easier time getting regular sex than men.
When iw as getting regular sex, I didn't ever really masturbate. Thus, Based on that alone it would make perfect sense that the number would be lower.

Oooookay. Women don't have an easier time getting regular sex. At all. Do your research, bub. Besides, haven't you stopped to notice that there are just as many unattractive women as there are unattractive men? And when they're not having regular sex, you think they won't masturbate at all? It's not a rate, it's a percentage. READ THE FUCKING SENTENCE RIGHT. Even when I had regular sex, I'd masturbate. This is because I have a sex drive on the more active end of the spectrum. Women vary just as much as we do. This has to do with rate. That 20% less women masturbate shows a lower number of women that masturbate, not how much less often they masturbate.

I see nothing but promiscuious women.

Ever stop to check out a girl that's not promiscuous? And how would you know of their promiscuity? Judging based on appearance? Flirtatiousness? How many guy friends they have? Or have you been following the lives of these "promiscuous women"? Your lack of observational skills has me confused.

The only reason I could think of that I would see this shit more often than most of you would be if you all lived in more conservative areas.
Me, I am in southern california, Liberal and shallow. As such there is a much more progressive sexual culture here that would be different than a place in the rural and religious south for example.

I'm in the most liberal state in the union. Washington. The northwest, no less. We have a higher rate (and faster growing, too) of STD's than you, yet it would seem that I have NOT noticed nothing but promiscuous women. I'm as liberal as hell. I don't even date. I have friends. Some of which I fool around with on the side. This is until I leave school and have a stable schedule and the ability to spend the time I should with the girl I choose to be my steady. I know sexuality well. I know promiscuity well. I wonder if you do.

[Kuenai]

Here are simple questions that would end all of this completly.



Do you belive a woman can have sex with a man for the sake of having sex with a man. Because she finds him attractive regardless of the different reasons she can find him attractive in the same way a guy can just fuck a woman he thinks is hot?

Yes to the first. Yes to the second. Yet these questions don't end it at all. You've opened up a can of worms, my friend.

[Taichi]

Dude, don't encourage him.




Perhaps this would discourage some would-be Hot Teachers on the fast-track to stoney lonesome (http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q292/alvatron/Scovilles.jpg)

[Rhythm1c]

azrael

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=3690975&postcount=66


That there would end and sum all of this all up completly.

That is it.

All of this "Well women want sex for different reasons then men" still doesn't show me that is is 100 percent right that a man and a woman can do the SAME crime and it be 100 percent acceptable that one gets full out jail time and the other doesn't. Lets say both were 100 percent consensual.


Fact,
There are plenty of women that will fuck the brains out of a man "just because". Deny it all you want. It is true.
Fact,
This also goes for those at the age of 15. I've seen it multiple times. This whole dynamic for both sexes isn't new. Never was. For either sex.

This is the suppose to be the reason that it is 100 percent ok by all of you guys that an adult woman can break the law but a man can't.

This is because according to you all. Women can't want sex for the sake of having sex. Correct? But casual observation completly contradics this. If you never see this either you live in some hella conservative place or you just don't get out at all.

If the reason why it is wrong male > female is because the man must trick and scheme to get a woman. Then why is it ALWAYS not like that? Would that mean every single sexual encounter is rape? Every sexual encounter you have to fight, scheme and try to *win* sex?

That is what I am seeing here. That is the answer I am getting from you all.

It is fine for a woman to have sex with a minor because the male minor wants it.
It is not ok for a man to have sex with a minor becuase the female minor never wants it.

Men sexuality is wrong, Female sexuality is not.

Sorry. If you can't see the issue here then there isn't a reason to keep posting.

Though I have to wonder. If what you all are saying is true and women DO NOT LIKE SEX.
Where are we getting all the sluts from? Why are all these teachers fucking students? Where are all the players getting their Fuck buddies from?

Why is it I can head downtown at night and see some drunk woman yelling that some guy is hot and she'd so fuck him?
Then actually go find some guy to fuck that same very night?

Well, I must be missing something. Women aren't sexual beings. They must not like sex afterall.

[Septimus Prime]

Doki Doki.

[Azrael]

I've already said those were created during the victorian era. I said it multiple times...
Your argument fails to take into account here that there are many cultures who NEVER experienced the "Victorian Era" yet still consider promiscuous women to be dirty. Did...all these countries just happen to come to this conclusion by coincidence?

I try not to judge promiscuity harshly myself, as I said before I want to be able to reap the benefits. But even I have to admit that I would be hesistant to enter into a serious relationship with a promiscuous woman. Are there any guys who wouldn't flinch if their serious/long-term girlfriend admitting to having 20+ sex partners?

This is amazing that you all are defending to the death the idea that somehow women must be TRICKED into sex and can not WANT it just in the same idea of how MEN want it.
It's not a matter of "tricking" them. Men turn on easier than women, and more often. End of story. You are attempting to argue that biological functions are a result of "Victorian thinking". No.

As I said before. It is those with that idea in their head that often end up being the guys who have a hard time getting laid.
As I said before, have you ever dated a woman long-term?

There will be, maybe a week out of the month, where my girlfriend will want to have sex. During this week, I honestly think her sex drive is bigger than mine. The other three weeks or so, its a VERY DIFFERENT story. That's not to say that she isn't open to sex. I just have to get her sex drive going. Sometimes it doesn't take a whole lot...and sometimes, no matter what I do, she just isn't into it. Even when she's not into it, she may sometimes consent anyway (which I personally hate).

But this does NOT mean that our sex drives are the same! Absolutely not.

[Taichi]

tiny, illegible avatars ftw!

[1/2Man1/2God]

of course not, because if you were fucking the teacher, 1: he'd be male, and 2: you wouldn't wanna give up the only sex you'll likely ever get.

please tell me that wasn't directed at me.

[XTG]

Leykis fan?

[Taichi]

please tell me that wasn't directed at me.

Okay, it wasn't directed at you. :rofl:

[Azrael]

I don't wanna do quote by quote anymore. But anyway...

Basically, you keep saying that the male and female sex drive is the same, and it's just not. Even if a girl fucks a guy "just because", that is in NO way comparable to the male sex drive. If men do not want sex 90% of the time, then they can go to wanting sex, very, very quickly. It is as easy as flipping a light switch, if not easier.

There are times when a woman will want sex, and that desire may actually be stronger than that of the guy. If guys are light switches, girls during this time are lights that activate with motion sensors. Then, there are times when women will not want sex outright but not be opposed to it, or even willing. In the process she may become aroused, but it certainly isn't the 0-to-horny process that it is for guys. Think of an old car you might have to give a little gas first, poke around under the hood, and leave idling for a few minutes before it'll run. Then, there are times when, no matter what the situation, the girl just doesn't want sex. It's like trying to get a clump of dirt to do algebra - not gonna happen.

It's because of these differences that men and women react differently to sex. There have been times where I actually have had sex with my girlfriend and she did not want to do so - she didn't want to have sex, but consented because she loves me and wanted to make me happy. (I didn't know until after the fact...and I don't particularly like it) Maybe we can't exactly call that rape, but it is still sex where the girl didn't want it. ...I have NEVER had sex where I didn't want it. Even if I hated the girl's personality, she was unattractive, I was sick/tired/injured, whatever, I was able to go from 0 to horny and do it. Maybe, in retrospect, I might regret some of the decisions, but I cannot say at the time that I didn't want it. Hell, even if I didn't want it and did it anyway, ultimately it would NOT be a big deal.

A teacher who takes advantage of a child student is wrong, regardless of gender. The woman should get just as much jail time as a man in her situation. It's an abuse of power. Why is it illegal for minors to have sex anyway? The assumption is that they don't truly know what they're doing. They can be manipulated. Regardless of whether or not the minor "wanted" it is irrevalent.

In this type of crime, boys are more likely to be okay with it. Just because of how differently our sex drives work. That doesn't mean that the female teacher was anymore justified, she isn't. That doesn't mean that female victims didn't "want it", at least at that time (she may come to regret her actions when she becomes older and wiser). Just, boys are far less likely to be fucked up over this type of thing.

The female/male sex drives are NOT alike. That's just a mistake.

[Rhythm1c]

I was giving ONE EXAMPLE of the difference in sexual drive. And it is a VERY important fact, if you have a brain. Do you? I'm starting to wonder if your closed-mindedness isn't retardation.


THus that 20 percent means it is just fine that a female teacher should be allowed to fuck students and get away with it because men just want it more because 20 percent more masturbate? While a male teacher doing the same should automatically get jail time because his gender masturbates 20 percent of the time?
That 20 percent is enough of a difference that we should completly turn the law system backwards?
*Inject ad hominem here*

Once again, your closed-mindedness astounds me. It isn't a contradiction in any way, shape, or form. It was support for my previous statement in that it varies completely from person to person. You must see that if it varies from person to person[/B

]

I do see that. That is my point.
My point being it varies from person to person regardless of gender. *Inject ad hominem here* If that is the case, How does this mean it should be ok for male students to fuck teachers insteadof the other way around because they want it more?
If sexual drive can vary person to person regardless of gender. Then that doesn't equal the original arguement that it is more ok for a female teacher to have sex with a student yet a male teacher is automatically somehow taking advantage of a female student. *inject ad hominem here*


[B]Who supported the idea that women must be tricked into sex? NOBODY HERE. They could want it in the same way men want it. Nobody said the opposite. I said that our reasons for sexual drive are different. Desire is separate.

Nobody here? Read the first few post. That is why men should be put in jail because they can only take advantage of young girls. While adult women are just fine with having sex with teenagers. *inject ad hominem here*


Yup. They must indeed. I, on the other hand, HAVE A BRAIN. Desire is different from drive. There is intrinsic motivation involved in desire,(lust) while there is extrinsic motivation involved in other things you mentioned (Like the rich guys). You're not accepting when you're wrong. Twisting a statement to support your agenda will not make you any more correct in the matter. I'm not stating opinion in my points, I'm going off of well-respected and documented scientists and psychologists.


*inject ad hominem here*. They say what? That more men masturbate than women? Got ya. And I've already gone over that. There has been nothing that has show me why I am wrong.

Why im I wrong in thinking that it is fucked up that a male teacher would get dragged into the mud for having censentual sex with a 16 year old girl while the reverse would have nothing happening to the female.
You say they have lower sex drive and your only fact is that they masturbate 20 percent less then men....
Sorry, We are going to just have to agree to disagree that is enough to justify the great difference in the way everybody views the double standard. That doesn't show to me that women do NOT have the want for sex that makes up for that double standard.

We can sit around and say they want to fuck for difference reasons. That they have different motivations. Fine, Ok I'll admit that they have very different motivations. Ok, I'll admit they don't have the same super sexual charged need for sex.
But they still do WANT sex. So what is so fucking hard to belive that a 15 year old girl would WANT sex from her teacher in the same way a fucking 15 year old boy would want sex from his teacher.*inject ad hominem here*
People here were saying it can't happen and that they are ALWAYS victims. ALWAYS and that is why those men get put in jail without a second thought for 20 years while a female teacher gets off with what? probation?*inject ad hominem here*


No-one here denies women as sexual beings. They are not pure, they are simply less sexually fixated than men. I have no trouble at all. I'm in college right now. There are loose women abound, but I can assure you that the majority are more pure than the guys.


*inject ad hominem here*
Ok, So if you can admit to this. Then how am I wrong about the double standard? Why should it be fair that adult women get away with having sex with children?
That has been my whole point.*inject ad hominem here* Are you trying to say they are so less sexualy fixated that it would be impossible for a young girl to want her teacher in the same way a young boy would want his teacher?
*inject ad hominem here*


Wha??? Relevance? Please? Oh. Right. Invert that sentence. And throw it out the window.

Reading that again, I fucked up that sentence badly.
that should be. The reasons why a woman would be attracted to a man. Not become attractive to a man.
You went over this point yourself earlier. That what they want and what they desire is different. No? That was what I was trying to say...... Just badly typed it out... my bad.




Oooookay. Women don't have an easier time getting regular sex. At all. Do your research, bub.

wow, I am not touching that one. Feel free to show me the reserch you've seen where men have it easier finding mates to fuck. Because that goes against pretty much every god damn thing I've seen my whole life.


Besides, haven't you stopped to notice that there are just as many unattractive women as there are unattractive men? And when they're not having regular sex, you think they won't masturbate at all? It's not a rate, it's a percentage. READ THE FUCKING SENTENCE RIGHT. Even when I had regular sex, I'd masturbate. This is because I have a sex drive on the more active end of the spectrum. Women vary just as much as we do. This has to do with rate. That 20% less women masturbate shows a lower number of women that masturbate, not how much less often they masturbate.

*inject ad hominem here*
I did read that sentence right. Just used the wrong word. 20 pecent less women masturbate. Got ya. More men masturbate. Got ya.
How does only 20 percent equal enough of a difference to show that women do not have enough of a sexual drive to want to fuck men just like men want to fuck women? That was the reason people were saying the double standard was OK.

Female teacher should get away with it. Male teacher can't. Because girls are alwayts victims because they don't want sex only men do. Well it seems by what you posted they sure DO want sex they sure DO like sex. If only 20 percent less of them masturbate than men. *inject ad hominem here*

So, It would seem that 16 year old girl would NOT need to be tricked by some creepy guy. It is 100 percent possible that she might WANT to fuck her teacher.*inject ad hominem here*


As for unattractive women.
dun dun dun. There are plenty of unattractive women that still get their pick of guys. Only the very bottom of the heap go sexless. There is always a guy willing fuck her.
Women in general always have more choices. Up and down the line of ugly'ness.

a female 5 can still fuck a 5-8. A male 5 would have to go much much lower....... It isn't fair, But that is the way it works.



Ever stop to check out a girl that's not promiscuous? And how would you know of their promiscuity? Judging based on appearance? Flirtatiousness? How many guy friends they have? Or have you been following the lives of these "promiscuous women"? Your lack of observational skills has me confused.

Ok, You got me exagerrating. I still know plenty who have no issue getting a fuck of the weekend. Different guy each time.*inject ad hominem here*

[Rhythm1c]

A teacher who takes advantage of a child student is wrong, regardless of gender. The woman should get just as much jail time as a man in her situation. It's an abuse of power. Why is it illegal for minors to have sex anyway? The assumption is that they don't truly know what they're doing. They can be manipulated. Regardless of whether or not the minor "wanted" it is irrevalent.





AND THIS IS ALL I HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR.

Right there. NOBODY ELSE would give me the above. Nobody else would address my original beef. Kudos.

All of this roundabout have been nothing but people trying to explain away why they think the above is wrong.

[Taichi]

okay, can we get back to saying "Niiiiiice" now?

jeezus, people take things TOO FUCKING FAR sometimes.........

[Rhythm1c]

My main point in the "male and female sexual drive is the same" is just the fact that they BOTH want sex.

Ok, fine I can admit that men would want it MORE. regardless. Women want it. Not saying that they are 100 percent identical in function.
I said multiple times there are plenty of differences in why each sex want to have sex.

The bottom line and the point I wanted to make. Is that both want it. They both want sex. They are both sexual beings. They both have a need for sex. Regardless of the differences in getting there.
That is my point. That is why the double standard is bullshit.


As for why multple cultures have the same view of controllering female sexuality. That is easy.
That is a basic for having a patriachal culture. You need to reign in female sexuality and control it. Different cultures created different ways to do just that. Before that it was matriachal. Mind you, The more promiscuious we get the further away we get from patriachy.


Funny enough. Patriachal got us out of the caves and into modern world in a relative short time in contrast with how long mankind has been around.

But that is a completly different topic of discussion.

[Rhythm1c]

okay, can we get back to saying "Niiiiiice" now?

jeezus, people take things TOO FUCKING FAR sometimes.........





Sure,



Niiiiiicee



Leykis fan?

No.

[Mavric]

This thread needs more niiice.

[1/2Man1/2God]

Okay, it wasn't directed at you. :rofl:


u thought that was funny?:rofl:

[white shadow]

As for why multple cultures have the same view of controllering female sexuality. That is easy.
That is a basic for having a patriachal culture. You need to reign in female sexuality and control it. Different cultures created different ways to do just that. Before that it was matriachal. Mind you, The more promiscuious we get the further away we get from patriachy.


Funny enough. Patriachal got us out of the caves and into modern world in a relative short time in contrast with how long mankind has been around.

But that is a completly different topic of discussion.

Well that is at least true. 99% of the creatures in the animal kingdom the female counterpart gets to chose their mate, not the other way around.


Oh and it is has been scientifically proven that males are more aroused visually then females. On internet female sites, females have been shown to be more receptive to a man who has not shown his visual profile while a man would rather go for a subpar-looking female rather than risk meeting a woman with no picture. I'm sure it is quite easy to conclude why that is.

[TheSix]

1-800-5-800-TOM (this the #....your gonna need it!)

This is where SRK gets together to talk about the issues you.....REALLY...care about.

God I need to take my ass to sleep.

[abs_maniac]

These incidents make me slowly lose faith in humanity, and by "humanity" I mean teenage boys who can't keept their mouths shut.
i'm positive there are a few smart kids out there who are keeping their mouths shut.

[TS]

2k7 posters are the BEST.

[Dasrik]

All of this roundabout have been nothing but people trying to explain away why they think the above is wrong.
I don't think anybody here really disagrees with you.

The problem you have is that you seem to have forgotten you're on SRK.

[Against Me!]

I can't be bothered to read all this shit, especially since he can't fucking quote right.

You make the mistake of assuming that a male's role in sex/relationships is the same a females. The fact is we're biologically different. Like all other animals, men try to impress women with the sole thought of getting in her pants. This isn't some fucking societal influence - this is how it's always been. When we were cavemen we tried to impress women with our strength and skills as a hunter - positive traits she would pass on to her child. This is what keeps us going as a species.

And nothing has changed. Instead of hunting skills it's all about a looks, a good job, nice car, and big house. The fact is there is just more explotation being done by the male teacher. Men are different.

If our sexuality was no different then the population would be a LOT higher and we wouldn't be as successful as we are.

For a grown man it is like shooting fish in a barrel to go after teenage girls. You have a job, your own transportation and most importantly your own apartment or house. So he is taking advantage of the girl because all he wants is sex - not a relationship or anything like that.

For the female teacher she is STILL the one being exploited. She has to be fucked in the head hard to want to sleep with some boys instead of a man. But she doesn't exploit the boys because naturally we want to fuck everything that moves. It's how we spred our seed.

So you may know a bunch of stupid sluts who think they're cool or feel mature by blowing and sleeping with grown ass men but in reality they are being used just for some EASY pussy. With guys we're all easy :rofl:

[Taichi]

u thought that was funny?:rofl:

nah, I was just fucking tired at 4:00 in the morning, and didn't feel like fucking with people anymore.

[Rhythm1c]

You make the mistake of assuming that a male's role in sex/relationships is the same a females



Had to stop right there. You are wrong. Try again.

[4Play]

Lets get back to the niiiice

[XTG]

bummer...

[Sifu V]

I actually lost my cherry to my drama teacher when i was 14 (she 36) and managed to not boast about our 8 month relationship.

So while i can see the point of parents being upset over their kids being 'taken advantage of' i can also see it from the side of the youngsters involved.

I think its mostly common for a teenager to fantasize about having sex with his/her teacher and the fact that very few get to live out the 'real' adult fantasy is good. If they're clever they can keep the details to themselves and nobody gets hurt.

After all, legal age aside, it doesnt matter what the age gap is later on in life, sex is sex. Just look at the amount of mature/milf porn interest there is these days its a popular topic.

[white shadow]

i'm positive there are a few smart kids out there who are keeping their mouths shut.

Yeah I know, I was just playing devil's advocate. lol I actually don't condone such behavior.

[Biolink]

I actually lost my cherry to my drama teacher when i was 14 (she 36) and managed to not boast about our 8 month relationship.

So while i can see the point of parents being upset over their kids being 'taken advantage of' i can also see it from the side of the youngsters involved.

I think its mostly common for a teenager to fantasize about having sex with his/her teacher and the fact that very few get to live out the 'real' adult fantasy is good. If they're clever they can keep the details to themselves and nobody gets hurt.

After all, legal age aside, it doesnt matter what the age gap is later on in life, sex is sex. Just look at the amount of mature/milf porn interest there is these days its a popular topic.

Lucky you...

[Team Cable]

I actually lost my cherry to my drama teacher when i was 14 (she 36) and managed to not boast about our 8 month relationship.

So while i can see the point of parents being upset over their kids being 'taken advantage of' i can also see it from the side of the youngsters involved.

I think its mostly common for a teenager to fantasize about having sex with his/her teacher and the fact that very few get to live out the 'real' adult fantasy is good. If they're clever they can keep the details to themselves and nobody gets hurt.

After all, legal age aside, it doesnt matter what the age gap is later on in life, sex is sex. Just look at the amount of mature/milf porn interest there is these days its a popular topic.

you sir, are a winner

someone please rep this man just on principle alone.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

I actually lost my cherry to my drama teacher when i was 14 (she 36) and managed to not boast about our 8 month relationship.

So while i can see the point of parents being upset over their kids being 'taken advantage of' i can also see it from the side of the youngsters involved.

I think its mostly common for a teenager to fantasize about having sex with his/her teacher and the fact that very few get to live out the 'real' adult fantasy is good. If they're clever they can keep the details to themselves and nobody gets hurt.

After all, legal age aside, it doesnt matter what the age gap is later on in life, sex is sex. Just look at the amount of mature/milf porn interest there is these days its a popular topic.

pics....

[Kuenai]

pics....

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