Tekken 5 stick + Sanwa OBSN-30 (Screw-On) Buttons

[Grimspoon]

Hey,

I'm putting together my tekken 5 stick with Sanwa parts, I ordered Sanwa OBSN-30 screw on type pushbuttons. When I try to mount the buttons, I see that the nuts won't screw on in the back without hitting eachother, they layout of the holes are too close together.

I'd like to put this together without grinding down the nuts for the buttons. Has anyone else encountered this problem? What did you do?

[plasmakill]

I haven't modded this stick so I don't know for sure but... you probably should have went with snap-in buttons.

[DarkDragon]

Hey,

I'm putting together my tekken 5 stick with Sanwa parts, I ordered Sanwa OBSN-30 screw on type pushbuttons. When I try to mount the buttons, I see that the nuts won't screw on in the back without hitting eachother, they layout of the holes are too close together.

I'd like to put this together without grinding down the nuts for the buttons. Has anyone else encountered this problem? What did you do?

I remember reading someone saying they came across the same problem but managed to get all the buttons in....they also mention there was alot of pain involved:wgrin:

check the custom stick gallery and/or the sanwa parts thread, I'm sure they have solutions there

[tolkien]

Sand down the nuts/use Seimitsu nuts/use snapins instead

[SupraFist]

ditto what tolkien said. use seimitsu nuts or the snap ins. However, the sanwa will fit with there own nuts... it's just that its a very tight fit.

[Grimspoon]

Anyone have a few extra seimitsu nuts they wanna donate to a good cause?

[Dj_Matrix]

its fits... just have to kinda force it down... also try and hold them a bit to the edges... i ve done this plenty of tiems before and its the same with agetecs.

[Toodles]

I seriously don't understand the hard-ons people here have for the screw ins. In every way, they suck compared to snap-ins. IMHO, natch.

The nuts are only a problem for the first four buttons. Try to work your way back; you'll get about 6 six in with little problem, but those last two are fuckers. You'll have to sand the nut, or trim it, to get them all in and flat. It sucks and it takes forever, but if you're willing to cut the nuts, it'll work. But get those first ones you can (the ones farthest from the stick) in as tight as you can, because you do not want to have to do it twice.

[mags]

I had the same problem with my T5 mod, got 5 of them in with some difficulty and just left the 6th nut off, the thread of the screw on the button itself has kept it in with no problems.

[Paik4Life]

Whenever I have a hard time fitting buttons I use a little "trick." Most people try to turn the nut itself. And while that is the normal way to do it, I find it better in some situations to turn the button itself. I do this by using a set of pliers. I grip onto the microswitch and turn the button that way. It will thread itself onto the nut (as long as you hold it in place). You get far more leverage doing it this way.

To explain it a bit more clearly, just put the nut flush on the bottom of the panel. Feed the button part from the front panel and when it starts going through to meet the nut, turn the button with your hand as far as you can. When it gets to be too hard to turn by hand, you can use the pliers from the back and start turning the button as I described above.

Obviously, don't grip the pliers too hard or you might damage the microswitch. Use regular pliers, not needle-nosed ones. I find slip-joint pliers to work the best since you can use the slip joint to widen the teeth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Pliers_slip_01CJC.png

That should help some of you out.

As for Toodles' question on why people like screw-ins, they are far BETTER in every way than snap-ins aside from the bit of extra space you need for the nut to fit and the limited color selection. If you have a standard Jap layout, you should never have a problem fitting them. They are far more versatile in terms of panel thickness since most top panels are not 2-4mm in thickness. Snap-ins work well on Japanese cabs because they were designed to work with the metal control panels. Most builders don't do metal top panels because metal is harder to work with and more expensive.

Since the screw-ins have variable depth up to around 10mm, it's great for people who work with wood top panels because 2-4mm thick wooden top panel isn't typically a great idea especially when some of that top panel depth is taking up by lexan/plexi which most custom sticks have. Not to mention with the nut, you get a better hold so you don't have the annoying phenomenon where the buttons move around or rotate in the panel.

So unless you're working with metal, have a weird button layout, want a specific color not available in screw-in, or don't want to shell out the extra 20 cents or so per button, I don't see any reason why you wouldn't want screw-ins.

~Paik

[final_cut]

On mine I used a combo of screw ins and snap ins, then on one button I used hot glue instead of a nut. It works ok, and you can peel that stuff off if you need to. I wouldn't recommend doing it on all of them though.

[Grimspoon]

Paik4Life - thats some awesome advice. I'm def gonna give that a shot.

Thanks!

[Duelist]

I had the same problem with my T5 stick, but I managed to find a way to get them all to fit in.