How is CVS2?

[Ytsejam89]

I wanna know what no review every says. How do the SF guys play? Like thier Alpha or III counterparts? Is there parrying in this? Is there 'unlockable' content or did I misinterpret as that only being in some japanese version like Millionare Fighting or something.

Whats the general consensus on this? I tried SFIII and couldnt stand the limited moves & super combos. I prefer the Alphas cause its just more moves/supers, the -Isms, Custom/Original Combos and nostalgia with character selection.

[1/2Man1/2God]

I wanna know what no review every says. How do the SF guys play? Like thier Alpha or III counterparts? Is there parrying in this? Is there 'unlockable' content or did I misinterpret as that only being in some japanese version like Millionare Fighting or something.

Whats the general consensus on this? I tried SFIII and couldnt stand the limited moves & super combos. I prefer the Alphas cause its just more moves/supers, the -Isms, Custom/Original Combos and nostalgia with character selection.

CVS2 is great but reading the posts in the 3s or CVS2 thread i guess people don't play anymore.Anyway I think it's a very well put together game.I think Capcom did SNK's characters more justice then they themselves do.Kyo,Terry,Haohmaru,Joe Higashi were done really well.Ummm i think there is parrying but i only play on GC and I only remember being parrying when you choose a certain groove.There are unlockables (Ex options,Ult.Rugal,Shin Akuma) but there not anything special.CVS2 is really good as far as super moves are concerned, most characters have at least to that can be used as soon as u reach lvl.1 on SFIII u can only choose that one super you want to do...I though that was gay.I also prefer Alpha, but i would recommend owning all of them though. it's capcom.

[xYourMasterx]

CVS2 is great but reading the posts in the 3s or CVS2 thread i guess people don't play anymore..


This is all I read. People still play cvs2, and people still have cvs2 ranbats. I think everyone likes 3s so much because it's easier to get into, and combo are easy to do in that game, but mind games and parrys make up for that. With cvs2 you have to learn more to be decent.(customs,combo(hard because of timing), and rc etc. etc.) I'm not really going to go into it anymore, because I'm lazy. Just search around and you can find answer to your questions. IMO all fighting game are good and fun.

[FSgamer]

I wanna know what no review every says. How do the SF guys play? Like thier Alpha or III counterparts? Is there parrying in this? Is there 'unlockable' content or did I misinterpret as that only being in some japanese version like Millionare Fighting or something.

Whats the general consensus on this? I tried SFIII and couldnt stand the limited moves & super combos. I prefer the Alphas cause its just more moves/supers, the -Isms, Custom/Original Combos and nostalgia with character selection.
Limited moves? You probably need to learn more about the game, there's lots of options for combos/mix-ups/etc.

CvS2 is an awesome game, definitely worth playing. Lots of characters, team based game, 6 grooves, so lots of possibilities for team and match-ups.
-parrying is available in P-groove
-custom combos are available in A-groove
-C-groove is similar to A-ism in SFA3
-S-groove is similar to the extra mode in KOF'98
-N-groove is similar to the advanced mode in KOF'98
-K-groove is similar to Samurai Spirits gauge.

[Hyperhal]

Man, where were you for the past 8 years. >_>

[Ryu & Ken]

Man, where were you for the past 8 years. >_>

Maybe he's David Scott Freeman from Flight of the Navigator

[Slick Vic]

CVS2 is one of the best 2d fighters ever! nuff said!

[KrassHole]

CvS2 is dog shit and 6 years old.

[Return of Shiki]

CvS2 is dog shit and 6 years old.

3rd Strike is over 2 years older.

[Lebowsk1]

I wanna know what no review every says. How do the SF guys play? Like thier Alpha or III counterparts? Is there parrying in this? Is there 'unlockable' content or did I misinterpret as that only being in some japanese version like Millionare Fighting or something.

Noob

[Mystic_bash]

Maybe he's David Scott Freeman from Flight of the Navigator
:rofl:

[SNkNuT]

cvs2 has gotten boring to me.

[Demon Dash]

Maybe he's David Scott Freeman from Flight of the Navigator
:rofl:
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Custom combos hard lol? If he play A3 well enough he'll have no problem... A-Groove is V-Ism for dummies...

[Return of Shiki]

Custom combos hard lol?

He wasn't saying CUSTOM combos in CvS2 were hard.

If you would pay attention to punctuation, he was saying combos in CvS2 IN GENERAL are harder COMPARED to 3S, which is true because CvS2 relies a lot more on links. There aren't any super cancels and not as many easily hit-confirmable normals in CvS2 as 3S.

[Atb_555]

Yeah I agree CvS2 combos are x10 harder than 3s. It takes time to adjust to the timing. Try doing Ryu: cr.LP, cr.LK, cr.LP -> 2 x QCF+P
If you don't play CvS2. That shit is easy in 3s.

[Khiempossible]

CVS2 is hands down the deepest 2d fighter ever made.

oh and roll -> super is unblockable. leetest tactic ever.

[SuicidalGrandpa]

I've been meaning to get into it...dunno though...

[starkilled]

If you like Alpha three you're going to like cvs2 also. since they bring in the same type of meters.

[Deadpool135]

I would definetly rate CvS2 over alpha 3, and most other 2d games. It kind of plays like alpha 3 in a way, but much more in depth and quick. With so many characters, supers, grooves (as FSgamer mentioned), and extreme fun factor if you play with someone on your skill level.... you cant go wrong with this game seriously.

But in my honest opinion, CvS2 is just plain stupid and boring as hell on a tournament level. Repetative characters in tourneys, roll cancelling has made me not enjoy the game as much on a high level, but thats about all thats bad with it.

The game is extremely fun and the grooves are all so unique and create so many options in gameplay. From reading your post Ytsejam89, I really think you'll enjoy this game just to play for fun.

[Havoc]

^^

Umm... no.

A3 is nothing like CvS2 at all.

[Lantis]

CvS 2 Genei Jin-less Yun = lose. :tdown:

[Dandy J]

A3 is nothing like CvS2 at all.
yea cvs2 is alot better

[Ytsejam89]

CVS2 is really good as far as super moves are concerned, most characters have at least to that can be used as soon as u reach lvl.1 on SFIII u can only choose that one super you want to do...I though that was gay.I also prefer Alpha, but i would recommend owning all of them though. it's capcom.


Thats cool. And yeah its Capcom afterall.:wgrin:


Limited moves?

Yeah like the fact that Ryus Forward & Roundhouse is the same damn animation far away and up close and that chartacters have less modified moves.

You probably need to learn more about the game, there's lots of options for combos/mix-ups/etc.

I did read up on it. I love the fluid animation but the game plays a lot slower because of that than the Alphas. The character selection sucks too! And what the hell is up with the rapping? Why Capcom?

-S-groove is similar to the extra mode in KOF'98
-N-groove is similar to the advanced mode in KOF'98
-K-groove is similar to Samurai Spirits gauge.

I have no idea what you're talking about. Never got into KOF or FF or AOF.




Yeah Im not a fan of the direction system either. I dont like 3. But at least its headlining EVO this year and C/M Vs S/C2 are playing there too.:wonder:

Anyways thanks for most of you for the comments that actually helped me. Not the spam sh!t. And yeah Ive been playing MK apparently since it came out. Was never too into fighter to begin with. Now I love Street Fighter. :)

[1/2Man1/2God]

I don't know why people are saying CVS2 is boring.What's boring about it? CVS2 is fun for me.besides, wat other game would i be able to have the team of Kyo,Haohmaru,and Ken? and nobody reply with svc for neo-geo pocket.

[Return of Shiki]

CvS 2 Genei Jin-less Yun = lose. :tdown:

Gen'ei Jin Yun is one of the things that keeps 3rd Strike from being even better than it already is.

Yun is the only character in that game that has no bad match-ups AT ALL.
If not for GJ, a WHOLE bunch of the roster of 3S would be so much better.

[Biolink]

It's a fun game.

To me though,the pacing is kind of slow though.

It has a Marvel vs Capcom 2 look and feel to it,but the pacing is slow because you don't have characters jumping in-and-out,and you don't have assists,only 3 on 3 single matches.It is also harder than 3rd Strike IMO,if only because you need to be good with 3 characters,as opposed to in 3rd Strike where you can win using and learning only one character(Although only learning one character wouldn't be reccomended unless you are a God at the game).

[SNAAAAKE]

cvs2 = best fighting game ever ever ever....EVER !

[1/2Man1/2God]

cvs2 = best fighting game ever ever ever....EVER !

ummmm CO-SIGN!:lovin:

[9TNine]

Yeah like the fact that Ryus Forward & Roundhouse is the same damn animation far away and up close and that chartacters have less modified moves.

Obviously your concerns are in the right place... :rolleyes:

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[Obliterate]

CVS2 is ok, could have been a lot better of course, I would have prefered a tag feature, new system all together, and of course new sprites would have been nice. I got bored with it fairly quickly, but I also can't find any competition in my area, so I got bored with games I love too like 3s. Playing games by yourself is just no fun.

[Return of Shiki]

CVS2 is ok, could have been a lot better of course, I would have prefered a tag feature,

Then it would've been just the same as MvC2.


new system all together,

I would say that having 6 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT systems in one game was pretty new at the time. The only other game that can make that claim is Samurai Spirits Tenka, and the 6 grooves in CvS2 have a MUCH bigger difference between them than the 6 grooves in SST.

and of course new sprites would have been nice.

The entire SNK roster and about half of the Capcom roster has new sprites. And that isn't enough???

[ToyRobotTerror]

The entire SNK roster and about half of the Capcom roster has new sprites. And that isn't enough???

If they would have updated morrigan maybe

[Lantis]

Gen'ei Jin Yun is one of the things that keeps 3rd Strike from being even better than it already is.

Yun is the only character in that game that has no bad match-ups AT ALL.
If not for GJ, a WHOLE bunch of the roster of 3S would be so much better.

Well, isn't that like saying that taking away Ken's Shippu Jinrai Kyaku and Chun Li's SA II would also help the balance of TS as well? :confused:

Anyways, I was only trying to note how funny it was that just by taking ONE super away, a characters turns to shit. With Genei Jin, Yun is God-almighty in TS, yet without it in CvS 2, he is barely even worth a glimpse. :looney:

[Biolink]

Playing it right now.

What's a good beginner to intermediate team to start with.

[Tone!]

1. Pick Sagat
2. Mash fierce
3. ?????
4. PROFIT

[WindyMan]

Third Strike is the best fighting game ever made. At least, the best 2D fighting game ever made.

However, I find it appalling that more people aren't playing CvS2. It's such a great game, even with its issues. It has so much depth that anyone can find the team/groove combination that fits for them. Once that happens, it's a matter of how much time and effort you want to put in to go up against the Sagats/Cammys/Blankas/A-Sakuras/A-Bisons of the world. I'm doing just fine with my N-Kyo/Maki/Hibiki, thanks. Also, maybe you've seen the team of A-Rock/Rolento/Eagle doing the rounds?

I get the feeling that people tend to not like CvS2 because it's "slower" than MvC2 or 3S (just like boxing is slower than wrestling, right?), and then people see the handful of balance problems and exploits like roll canceling, which turns more people off. And yet, people favor MvC2 even though it has more balance problems and more exploits? Surely it just can't be because it's faster?

People like MvC2 and hate on CvS2 for the same reasons.

The wrong ones.

[Kataklysmic]

Well, isn't that like saying that taking away Ken's Shippu Jinrai Kyaku and Chun Li's SA II would also help the balance of TS as well? :confused:

Anyways, I was only trying to note how funny it was that just by taking ONE super away, a characters turns to shit. With Genei Jin, Yun is God-almighty in TS, yet without it in CvS 2, he is barely even worth a glimpse. :looney:

So why is he better to play in CFE?

[Dark Strider]

Noob

Don't be a dick; you were noob too once you know.

[Windlord0]

Third Strike is the best fighting game ever made. At least, the best 2D fighting game ever made.

However, I find it appalling that more people aren't playing CvS2. It's such a great game, even with its issues. It has so much depth that anyone can find the team/groove combination that fits for them. Once that happens, it's a matter of how much time and effort you want to put in to go up against the Sagats/Cammys/Blankas/A-Sakuras/A-Bisons of the world. I'm doing just fine with my N-Kyo/Maki/Hibiki, thanks. Also, maybe you've seen the team of A-Rock/Rolento/Eagle doing the rounds?

I get the feeling that people tend to not like CvS2 because it's "slower" than MvC2 or 3S (just like boxing is slower than wrestling, right?), and then people see the handful of balance problems and exploits like roll canceling, which turns more people off. And yet, people favor MvC2 even though it has more balance problems and more exploits? Surely it just can't be because it's faster?

People like MvC2 and hate on CvS2 for the same reasons.

The wrong ones.


Don't act like 3rd strike doesn't have the same balance problems that marvel has.

CvS2 has a lot of systems that level the playing field a lot. RCing lets a lot of low tier characters have a lot of safer moves. Yes it does make blanka even more crazy, but I think it helps the balance more than it hurts it. Also the team aspect lets you pick a character you really like, that may not be very good, and balance that with one of the top tier. I see a lot more variety in high level CvS2 play.

[TS]

Someone saying that CvS2 is like A3 is the same as someone saying that salt is like sugar.

They share some systems, but CvS2 only really plays anything like A3 if you use A-Groove. And RCs change a whole hell of a lot.

[Mixah]

stop bitching about balance. if everyone really cared about balance THAT badly, then virtua fighter, vampire savior, and sf2 would be the only fighters ever played.

CvS2 is not the deepest fighter ever made. I definitely give that hats off to virtua fighter, guilty gear, and third strike. CvS2 has a variety, but it's far from deep. What makes it deeper than guilty gear's ridiculous combo system? MvC2 is gay. 3S has it's moments, but it's gay too. Super Turbo is amazing still, but matches are like, two seconds long. CvS2 is good, but not the best. Personally, I like Gulity Gear the best... but i have absolutely no idea how to play.

[Se7in]

With Genei Jin, Yun is God-almighty in TS, yet without it in CvS 2, he is barely even worth a glimpse. :looney:

Play my C-Yun.

:cool:

[MAGUS1234]

just like yun frustrates me in 3s
bison and blanka do the same in cvs2

take them all out and the games would be sooo much better in my mind

[Lantis]

So why is he better to play in CFE?

I admit to not playing this game throughly, to be honest. :sweat:

[Overworld]

I just got to get RCing down, and I'd be good to go.

[xYourMasterx]

just like yun frustrates me in 3s
bison and blanka do the same in cvs2

take them all out and the games would be sooo much better in my mind

:rofl:


Then when the next top tier comes you should take them out also, and so on until their is 3 character left. wait, back to square one. I really think that if you know the system 100% and what makes those chars. top tier and what they have trouble with you won't have problems with tiers. Top players, is this true? I'm just guessing...

[Frank the Tank]

Gen'ei Jin Yun is one of the things that keeps 3rd Strike from being even better than it already is.

Yun is the only character in that game that has no bad match-ups AT ALL.
If not for GJ, a WHOLE bunch of the roster of 3S would be so much better.

ummm...without yun, then Chun has no bad matchups. so then, you ban Chun, right? Well then Ken has no bad matchups. So let's ban Ken! Then Makoto has no bad matchups. At this rate, We'll have sean mirror matches and nothing but.

Same with cvs2. Yeah, Blanka and bison are whores, but so are cammy, Sak, Honda, vega, etc...the fact is, if these "broken" characters really were, in fact, broken, then nobody would play the games at all. As with any good game, there are answers to these characters...you just have to stop complaining long enough to find them.

[1/2Man1/2God]

If they would have updated morrigan maybe

capcom never makes new sprites for darkstalkers characters for some reason.When I saw Demitri and Jedah on CFE and how shitty and outdated the sprites looked compared to the other ones I wanted to throw the game out the fuckin window.

[Return of Shiki]

ummm...without yun, then Chun has no bad matchups.

I didn't say get rid of Yun, I said balance Genei Jin or remove it completely.
Yun is decent in CFJ without it...I don't think Capcom meant for the super to be quite as powerful as it is.

[WindyMan]

I really think that if you know the system 100% and what makes those chars. top tier and what they have trouble with you won't have problems with tiers. Top players, is this true? I'm just guessing...

Absolutely correct.

Same with cvs2. Yeah, Blanka and bison are whores, but so are cammy, Sak, Honda, vega, etc...the fact is, if these "broken" characters really were, in fact, broken, then nobody would play the games at all. As with any good game, there are answers to these characters...you just have to stop complaining long enough to find them.

Also absolutely correct.

[dizzynecro]

IMO all fighting game are good and fun.

Even tatoo assasins?

GGXXS/ is hands down the deepest 2d fighter ever made.

oh and roll -> super is unblockable. brokest tactic ever.
fixed

[TrueSephiroth]

CvS2 deserves props, it's a harder game to pick up then 3S, this shouldn't even be debated. Doing general combo links is harder, hit confirming c.mk into SAII/III is baby easy in 3S, doing a c.lkX2xxShinkuu-Hadouken in CvS2, the timing is way more strict. Kind of reminds me of the timing that was in the SF2 games, which are still far more strict then even CvsS2.

Balance is obviously an issue, however how many fighting games today that's played on the competetive lvl for the most part that doesn't have balance issues anyways (The closest SF game to balance was HF). Blanka is ridiculous in CvsS2, I seriously don't like going up against him, and Bison is stupid good when he's got a Full A-Groove Meter in his rectum waiting to shit it out on you when you make a mistake.

RCing although very strong, actually gives someone like my Ryu a fighting chance up against the Top Tiers. I actually like CvsS2, as much as some people try to give it a bad rep, sad how different taste can cause a barrier between players but sigh, life goes on.

CvsS2 is worth the play, its definetly a game worth learning. I enjoy it because it's 3 vs 3, I like the fact you can pick Capcom or SNK characters, the whole color editing mode, fun for me anyways lol. I love my team of Ryu/Chunli/Hibiki N-Groove, this game is still fun, I say if you have people willing to play this game with and wanting to advance in it. Pick it up and keep at it, CvsS2 is a solid game.

[xYourMasterx]

Even tatoo assasins?




:rofl:

Well, all fighting games that are competitive.

[Return of Shiki]

A.C! Wins! PER-FEC-TION!
*Two-headed mutant Barney pops out*

Billy wins!
"HAHHEEHEEHAHHEEHEEHO!"