Not another Gay thread... version 2.0.5

[BeaTs*]

i heard they re-upped that shit with actual pretty girls...huh?

[iwst99]

I love New York. Season 2.

[Night]

CALIFORNIA BAN ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGE STRUCK DOWN

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/05/15/same.sex.marriage/index.html



From Bill Mears
CNN Senior Producer

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In a much-anticipated ruling issued Thursday, the California Supreme Court struck down the state's ban on same-sex marriage as unconstitutional.

California's Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the state's ban on same-sex marriage is unconstitutional.

Several gay and lesbian couples, along with the city of San Francisco and gay rights groups, sued to overturn state laws allowing only marriages between a man and a woman.

"There can be no doubt that extending the designation of marriage to same-sex couples, rather than denying it to all couples, is the equal protection remedy that is most consistent with our state's general legislative policy and preference," said the 120-page ruling.

It said that the state law's language "limiting the designation of marriage to a 'union between a man and a woman' is unconstitutional, and that the remaining statutory language must be understood as making the designation of marriage available to both opposite-sex and same-sex couples."

With the ruling, California becomes the second state to allow same-sex couples to legally wed. Massachusetts adopted the practice in 2004, and couples don't need to be state residents to wed there.

Vermont, New Jersey, New Hampshire and Connecticut permit civil unions, while California has a domestic-partner registration law. More than a dozen other states give gay couples some legal rights.

Seven other jurisdictions around the world have legalized same-sex marriage: Belgium, Netherlands, Spain, South Africa and the Canadian provinces of British Columbia, Ontario, and Quebec.

San Francisco officials in 2004 allowed same-sex couples in the city to wed, prompting a flood of applicants crowding the city hall clerk's office. The first couple to wed then was 80-year-old Phyllis Lyon and 83-year-old Dorothy Martin, lovers for 50 years.

"We have a right just like anyone else to get married to the person we want to get married to," Lyon said at the time.

One issue before the justices was whether San Francisco's laws carried legal weight when the rest of the state banned same-sex marriages. Gay rights advocates argued the state was violating their civil rights by limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples. The state law in question is the Defense of Marriage Act, Proposition 22.

Oral arguments in the case in March lasted more than three hours, a sign of the political and legal issues at stake. Six cases were consolidated.

Groups saying they were promoting a pro-family agenda had vowed to fight a statewide law allowing same-sex marriage.

"The government should promote and encourage strong families," said Glen Lavy of the Alliance Defense Fund. "The voters realize that defining marriage as one man and one woman is important because the government should not, by design, deny a child both a mother and father."

An appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court is likely. The federal high court has never addressed the question of same-sex marriage.

[ramberk]

CALIFORNIA BAN ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGE STRUCK DOWN

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/05/15/same.sex.marriage/index.html

FUCK YEAH. The fight is far from over but this is great news.

[iwst99]

Hah, the CFO of the company just sent me that article....he's gay and knows I am too.

It's gay pride this weekend at Long Beach, CA, so I told him we might actually have something to be proud of this pride.


Too bad I don't believe in marriage in general.

[bear]

Here's my two cents.
Food > sex/games/money.

Word. I'll take good food over most anything. I was doing my books the other day, and I spend about 70% of my spending money (anything post bills) on food. But I don't mind. A good meal will make my day.

I'm hungry.

[iwst99]

Mmmmmm, hungry bears. :P~~~~~~

[BeaTs*]

shit, oxygen>water>food.

sunlight>all

the force>your mom

[iwst99]

Damn it.

Richard Karn > *

/Thread

[The Green Trench Coat]

BOD loves me.

:rofl:

Agreed age has little to do with immature behavior LS but I think its clear that bod an I wouldn't have had very much in common anyway

No plans made
No plans broken
No time waisted

And really GTC > all

[Lobelia Prime]

Samus > Link.

[The Green Trench Coat]

Samus > Link.

Pullies > God


Much respect to anyone who knows where that comes from.

one hint: Best Show Ever.

[ramberk]

monster. (http://ramberk.com/images/SF/21.jpeg)

[iwst99]

monster. (http://ramberk.com/images/SF/21.jpeg)

That's cute.

http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/iwst99/?action=view&current=wins.jpg

[The Green Trench Coat]

monster. (http://ramberk.com/images/SF/21.jpeg)

That's cute.

http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/iwst99/?action=view&current=wins.jpg

shit.. you guys are beasts..

My record is only 42 wins with makoto.
I shoulda taken a picture :sad:

[iwst99]

shit.. you guys are beasts..

My record is only 42 wins with makoto.
I shoulda taken a picture :sad:

Remy users 4 life!!!

[Azagtoth]

I'm lucky if I can get like 4 wins in a row in 3S. I guess I'm going to have to practice up before I play casuals with you guys at Evo, and I HATE 3S. :(

Iwst: I don't really believe in marriage much either. Awesome news though, wish my state wasn't so backwater.

moobs > food > games > all.

[ramberk]

That's cute.

http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/iwst99/?action=view&current=wins.jpg

I'm gonna have to be like Ryu and travel to So Cal some day.

[iwst99]

I'm gonna have to be like Ryu and travel to So Cal some day.

It's where the real comp is...we await your return, soldier.

[severin]

I haven't been able to get more than two wins in a row since coming to Fukuoka :(

On a similar note, being away from the boyfriend for another 4 months ftl.

[Mechanica]

Mech, you might be 18, but emotionally you're years older. :-) :tup:

What makes you say that?

I'm 19 btw.

[iwst99]

What makes you say that?

I'm 19 btw.

Just in general. And you're not a douche.

Nigga you 18.

[BeaTs*]

shit, IWST is the douchiest of them all. coffee douche

cue: :rolleyes:

btw, is Mechanicath the youngest here, what with all the new 'mos

[ramberk]

It kinda blows my mind that "young" people get serious about SF. Especially games like 3S with high learning curves. Kudos to ya'll for giving the scene some growth.

Anyway, back to being gay... Anyone have any especially "gay-tastic" summer plans? I'm going to be slaving away at whatever random job I can find during the summer. I would like to go to San Diego at the end of July for the big comic book convention. I would be totally geeked out during the day and then dirty bar hopping at night. But I don't know if I can afford it or make the time with whatever job I find. And I'm not sure if my boy could pull it off either. We'll see...

[BeaTs*]

hmmm

well, moving to a new apartment, NO ROOMATES (ugh)

umm...seeing how things go with Adrian I s'pose.

really not much, just working throughout the summer, and hopefully still keep leveling up in Marvel (hopefully the OG beasts from Chi will keep playing after EVO)

I might try to do some traveling this year.

[iwst99]

shit, IWST is the douchiest of them all. coffee douche

cue: :rolleyes:

btw, is Mechanicath the youngest here, what with all the new 'mos

Hmmm, I'm basing my feelings towards Mech based on the hours of conversation I've had with him online...

PS Shave your unibrow.

[BeaTs*]

no one asked nor was talking about that. you's still a douche

lol

I would, like I used to when I was younger (actually, I didn't really, I trimmed, which made the unibrow start to grow, but it's not fully there yet) but enough guys tell me to leave them alone. plus, I don't need to

PS stop trying so hard

[iwst99]

PS stop trying so hard

PS I love you.

[BeaTs*]

PS Fuck yo' couch and eat a dick...oh damn....I mean eat a pussy

[iwst99]

PSp.

[BeaTs*]

PShopped

[iwst99]

.psd

[DaDesiCanadian]

PSA: you're all cunts.

[ramberk]

Adoket!!!!!!!!

I read your sig text DDC. I read the thread where that quote came from. The internet never ceases to amaze me.

[DaDesiCanadian]

Adoket!!!!!!!!

I read your sig text DDC. I read the thread where that quote came from. The internet never ceases to amaze me.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5144747&postcount=87'

That guy is just too amazing.

[g3nshir0_]

Okay, if a guy says that his gaymeter goes off around you, should you take it with a grain of salt and like not reexamine your sexuality, or can you simply shrug it off?

I don't mind being bisexual or anything, I just don't know how to start

[ramberk]

I don't mind being bisexual or anything

You don't mind being bisexual!?!?! You say that so casually. I'm glad its not a big inconvenience... :rofl:

Join a local LGBT group or spend time talking with someone you trust about this. And I'm pretty sure its a bad idea to listen to what other people think your sexuality should be. I woulda been married to a girl by now if I did.

[severin]

When I first found out I liked guys as well, my initial thought was along the lines of "Oh fuck, now I have to deal with being gay as well*, I guess I can deal with this. Not like I'm ever telling anyone or anything".

*bi/pansexuality didn't exist in my mind at this point, once you stepped over the gay threshold, there was no going back.

The fact that you "don't mind" is enough reason for self-examination in my opinion. LGBT groups are also a nice bit of help, but, the ones I went to seemed a bit over the top for me, to each their own.

[Septimus Prime]

I have a weird question: How do post-op FtM transsexuals urinate? Do they sit down like women?

EDIT: Great. Now I'm looking this up.

[The Green Trench Coat]

I wonder what Garret is doing right now.

[djfaka]

damn this thread is gay now.

so I found this shit online and thought id share it if you're into the chubbies its FUCKING FUNNY (to me)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1r_-MznX2o

[Lobelia Prime]

I have a weird question: How do post-op FtM transsexuals urinate? Do they sit down like women?

EDIT: Great. Now I'm looking this up.

They have dicks, dude.
So no, they don't sit down.
Now, me on the other hand..............

[LightningStorm]

I have a weird question: How do post-op FtM transsexuals urinate? Do they sit down like women?

EDIT: Great. Now I'm looking this up.

I imagine they do what ever they want to do. Since this is a matter of preference in one case and physics in another.

Having a dick doesn't preclude you from sitting down to pee, however not having one does preclude you from standing while doing so.

[DrumlinerJoe]

Anyway, back to being gay... Anyone have any especially "gay-tastic" summer plans? I'm going to be slaving away at whatever random job I can find during the summer. I would like to go to San Diego at the end of July for the big comic book convention. I would be totally geeked out during the day and then dirty bar hopping at night. But I don't know if I can afford it or make the time with whatever job I find. And I'm not sure if my boy could pull it off either. We'll see...

Hopefully I'll be able to make it to EVO this summer to chill with some of y'all and get some games in. Other than that I haven't found a job yet, so I think I might go back to working as a lifeguard again for the summer since I just can't find anything good. It pays decent and at least I'll be solid for 3 months.

Other than that I'm looking forward to a sumemr of Smash. Any of y'all play online?

[Penance]

my summer will be spent getting fucke dup at concerts, working, playin videogames and chasing ass.... so it will be like every other day, but with sunshine and hopefully less angy husbands.

[Lobelia Prime]

Hey guys, look at this pic of me.
http://forums.shoryuken.com/picture.php?albumid=189&pictureid=1070

[Septimus Prime]

I imagine they do what ever they want to do. Since this is a matter of preference in one case and physics in another.

Having a dick doesn't preclude you from sitting down to pee, however not having one does preclude you from standing while doing so.
Yeah, I looked it up and found out that the whole urinary system gets rerouted for both transmen and transwomen. I initially thought the transman's penis was just like an enlarged clitoris or something.

[Penance]

Hey guys, look at this pic of me.
http://forums.shoryuken.com/picture.php?albumid=189&pictureid=1070

*purrs* kawaii.

[Mechanica]

It kinda blows my mind that "young" people get serious about SF. Especially games like 3S with high learning curves. Kudos to ya'll for giving the scene some growth.

You're surprised that the age group getting really into videogames is younger? Why? Older gamers tend to be a lot more casual about it as they have more enveloping real lives to tend to.


I would, like I used to when I was younger (actually, I didn't really, I trimmed, which made the unibrow start to grow, but it's not fully there yet) but enough guys tell me to leave them alone. plus, I don't need to

Well there's your problem. You don't fucking cut the eyebrow hairs, of course they'll grow back with ridiculous unibrow stubble. :rofl: Pluck that shit.

They have dicks, dude.
So no, they don't sit down.

Those two things don't always go hand in hand. I read pages of a topic on a gay message board asking how many people sat to pee and a startling majority said they did, haha. I've heard something about you can't fully empty your bladder while standing but that sounds like a case-by-case thing and it's not like guys stand up to poop too.

That'd be pretty hot though.

[The Green Trench Coat]

Hey guys, look at this pic of me.
http://forums.shoryuken.com/picture.php?albumid=189&pictureid=1070

representing fem realness.

looking good girl.

[iwst99]

Went to LB pride yesterday...shit sucked as always, but hung with some friends, which is always nice. Some REALLY nice chubs...no pics though, thing sucked so bad I felt like taking no pics.

[The Green Trench Coat]

Went to LB pride yesterday...shit sucked as always, but hung with some friends, which is always nice. Some REALLY nice chubs...no pics though, thing sucked so bad I felt like taking no pics.

dude i swear we are so gonna hit a chub party when i come out there.


BTW chicago was cool. The scene is pretty hot there. I even got to game also.. imagine that.

[g3nshir0_]

If you're a guy and other guys seem to be attracted to you moreso than women, how should you take it? I think I'm pretty good looking, but is there something about me that makes me more marketable to men, like the way i carry myself and stuff or the way i look

[iwst99]

If you're a guy and other guys seem to be attracted to you moreso than women, how should you take it? I think I'm pretty good looking, but is there something about me that makes me more marketable to men, like the way i carry myself and stuff or the way i look

You make it sound like ALL gay men are attracted to you...Are you ATLEAST 250 lbs, with moobs, maybe hairy? If not, 90 percent of the guys in here won't want you...you might just have a look that many gay man find attractive...I don't know. Especially if you're queeny looking...which I'm assuming is the case, since you called yourself a "pretty boy" in the other thread...the one where you put down construction workers for being blue collar.

[g3nshir0_]

I'm 130 lbs and 5'8 so I don't think I'm fat

[iwst99]

I'm 130 lbs and 5'8 so I don't think I'm fat

Pics would help.



And yeah, GTC, we need to go out and partyyyyyyy.

When the LA Bear float drove by, my friend was on it (alarmgui on bear411). I went up to him and asked for his number, since I had lost it. He bent down as he was on the float, and tried to kiss me to say hello, so I jumped up and gave him a kiss back. Then I heard, what I'm assuming were bears, behind me that were watching on the sidelines yelling yEAH!!!!!!!!!! and someone went up to me and slapped my ass...I was like wtf? I then got his number and said bye.

My friends that were watching told me that it looked like I was trying to get on the float...and that I was too skinny to be a bear lol..

I got a tan though, cause it was like 100+ degrees...which was nice.

[g3nshir0_]

This is the most recent picture I have

http://a249.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/102/l_c91cc988129d2931bf8f3075efff2858.jpg

[iwst99]

Yeah...you are a pretty boy. All creepy old men and and probably a good majority of gay population are into that look.

[g3nshir0_]

dude I've been hit on by old guys before, like late at night when I'm walking home or walkign around to clear my head. They drive by me and ask if I need a ride and stuff, but they're really persistent

[BeaTs*]

You're surprised that the age group getting really into videogames is younger? Why? Older gamers tend to be a lot more casual about it as they have more enveloping real lives to tend to.


Well there's your problem. You don't fucking cut the eyebrow hairs, of course they'll grow back with ridiculous unibrow stubble. :rofl: Pluck that shit.


Those two things don't always go hand in hand. I read pages of a topic on a gay message board asking how many people sat to pee and a startling majority said they did, haha. I've heard something about you can't fully empty your bladder while standing but that sounds like a case-by-case thing and it's not like guys stand up to poop too.

That'd be pretty hot though.lol, I don't bother with plucking. I usually clearly don't care to do anything with it anymore...guys hitting on me don't care. I've seen some cubs with much more apparent unibrows working them.

I might wax it soon

[The Green Trench Coat]

I'm 130 lbs and 5'8 so I don't think I'm fat

too small i'd throw you back.


but you'd probably throw me back too :sad:

that said.. you do have a prince-esque look to you and i've always thought prince was attractive.. and we've all heard about my wet dream about me and prince.. and the stereo.. and the girraffe.. and the rollercoaster.

sounds like a new narnia

GTC in Narnia, the giraffe, the stereo, and prince.

kids would be so confused.

[Mechanica]

lol, I don't bother with plucking.
well no shit - you have a unibrow

[iwst99]

well no shit - you have a unibrow

Bitches LOVE unibrows.

[ramberk]

You're surprised that the age group getting really into videogames is younger? Why? Older gamers tend to be a lot more casual about it as they have more enveloping real lives to tend to.

I'm surprised because regardless of age, Street Fighter has not been "newbie friendly" in a long, long, long time. So when I see anyone, but especially young people, really get into SF, I think that's really cool. Old or young, few people have the patience to learn how to compete in SF if they didn't grow up with SF2. Remember, Street Fighter 2 came out in 1991 and has gotten progressively more complex as time has gone by. Street Fighter 4 might be a good stepping stone to grab a whole new generation of gamers. Third Strike, CvS2 and MvC2 are beyond fucking complex for the newbie gamer (hardcore or casual newbie).

I do agree that older gamers are becoming more and more casual. I fall in that category. The only thing left "hardcore" about me is 3S.

[Penance]

i feel left out so now i'm pic whoring myself, what do you guys think?

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e284/Penance17420/mini-eyes.jpg

[severin]

Yay long hair

[Penance]

this one shows the hair better. http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e284/Penance17420/mini-KHish2.jpg

[Mechanica]

beer belleh

[Lobelia Prime]

beer belleh

Yeah, I know. :wasted:
I have a bit of a pot.
I learned my lesson today at least. No more tight-fitting shirts that don't restrict my midriff.

[Mechanica]

Yeah, I know. :wasted:
I have a bit of a pot.
I learned my lesson today at least. No more tight-fitting shirts that don't restrict my midriff.

hahah I got one too. :tup: I just... couldn't not point it out. At least yours isn't all hairy, I guess, right? Happy trail to the max up in hurr.

[Lobelia Prime]

hahah I got one too. :tup: I just don't wear belleh shirts.

Well, I've just been chewed out by a bunch of people who told me I was ugly, so I'm going to get rid of those pictures.
I'm sorry to have injured your eyes as I did.

[Mechanica]

Well, I've just been chewed out by a bunch of people who told me I was ugly, so I'm going to get rid of those pictures.
I'm sorry to have injured your eyes as I did.

huh? I wasn't complaining. You're not ugly, but belly shirts made for females aren't flattering on you, at least yet. Work in progress, right? :bgrin:

It's not like they had to click the pictures... I had an idea someone'd be an asshole though. Sucks.

[Lobelia Prime]

huh? I wasn't complaining. You're not ugly, but belly shirts made for females aren't flattering on you, at least yet. Work in progress, right? :bgrin:

It's not like they had to click the pictures... I had an idea someone'd be an asshole though. Sucks.

Eh, people have been posting about the 'monster' in the pictures and whatnot. I tried really hard to look good in that photo in particular, and it feels like shit to have someone tell me that.
The older photo of me with the Wiimote doesn't even look good to me anymore. At least I act girly, being all self-conscious about my appearance and always thinking I'm ugly.

[codename47]

your not ugly, I remember you posting a pic before and I liked it. I wouldnt mind seeing the photo :D

[ramberk]

The world is full of haters. You look good in that pic.

[Penance]

Eh, people have been posting about the 'monster' in the pictures and whatnot. I tried really hard to look good in that photo in particular, and it feels like shit to have someone tell me that.
The older photo of me with the Wiimote doesn't even look good to me anymore. At least I act girly, being all self-conscious about my appearance and always thinking I'm ugly.


fuck those idiots, you did look good in that pic and you're FAR from ugly. anyone gives you shit just QCB, HCF+K their ass..... i've been playin alot of KoF.

[g3nshir0_]

that said.. you do have a prince-esque look to you and i've always thought prince was attractive.. and we've all heard about my wet dream about me and prince.. and the stereo.. and the girraffe.. and the rollercoaster.

I have got prince before

My hair was longer than that I had recently cut it

[The Green Trench Coat]

i feel left out so now i'm pic whoring myself, what do you guys think?

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e284/Penance17420/mini-eyes.jpg

That's .. sharp focus on the camera.

is that a webcam?

[BeaTs*]

well no shit - you have a unibrowsometimes...not at the moment. it'll be back! lol, it ain't even a full one

lemme find that guy with the tru-unibrow. but he flaunts it, and I guess it works for him

took that nipple piercing out...shit, is it so hard to do that evenly?

[The Green Trench Coat]

so i just cursed some bitch out at the att store.

I have a new blackberry curve from my company. But everytime i try to charge it the charge icon comes on then goes away. And this is with the travel charger and when charging from the computer.

So i speak to my company and they are like take it to the attstore and see if this is a known issue.

So i go in to the store and this black girl is like behind the desk and so i walk up and say
"can i get some help here"
"well What would you need help with"

i'm like "Well my blackberry won't charge I just got it on saturday from my company .. i belive they got it on thursday of last week"

she takes the phone from me and says "well lets see if that's true."
In my head i'm like WTF! but i let it slide.

She tests it and it doesn't work
she's like hmmm well this phone has no insurance I'm like i'm sure it doesn't because it was bought with about 30 other curves my company bought.

so this other guy comes out and he tests it and says.. this phone is definitely defective.
So i take my phone and i'm walking out and this black girl behind the counter is like ..

"I 'ownt know why he gettin all mad"

so I freeze
K grove activates in my head

I turn around and i say
"what the fuck did you just say?"

the whole store gets quiet and she won't even look my way.
I say
"that's what i thought bitch I knew your ass wouldn't try that bold shit twice




now i feel like i shoulda stayed there and really got in her ass... I hate that feeling.

[iwst99]

Ugh...I feel you man, some customer service people are the worst. ATT is one of the top ten worst in the US as well.

By the way, I handle all the BBs at my work, and I have a BB curve myself from work. And yeah, that is a known issue, but it's no just a BB curve issue, it's happened on other models. The charging logo disappears really quick and it doesn't do shit.

I'm glad you put that bitch in her place. :woot:

[DaDesiCanadian]

now i feel like i shoulda stayed there and really got in her ass... I hate that feeling.

Are you sure about that?

[Azagtoth]

this one shows the hair better. http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e284/Penance17420/mini-KHish2.jpg

Nice hair. Is it naturally like that?

Long hair crew represent. I probably have the longest hair out of anyone in here, but I'm trimming these damn split ends soon.

Djfaka: That vid you posted, I watched it muted and I'd hit it really hooord.

Lobelia: Ignore the haters. =D

[iwst99]

DJFaka comes back to the LA area today!!!!! Chub hunting here we go.....muffuga better not go back to Minnesota or some random ass state again to chase some chub.

[The Green Trench Coat]

Are you sure about that?

is that a take on litterally regretting that i didn't get into her physical ass? or regretting that i didn't stay and argue with her longer?

[Penance]

That's .. sharp focus on the camera.

is that a webcam?

nope, old PoS Digicam, but it's better than nothing so, meh.

Azagtoth: i wish my hair was naturaly straight but it's naturaly very curly ( just like my sexuality, ZING! ) i condition heavily and use a hair straigner to get it the way it is in the picture. beyond that nothing touches my hair, no gel, no spray....dye is a possability.

I traded Darkstalkers 3 for Final Fantasy VIII.....Disk one won't load.

[DaDesiCanadian]

is that a take on litterally regretting that i didn't get into her physical ass?

Yes. Now you've ruined it by making me explain. :(

[Lobelia Prime]

Everyone who was so nice to me earlier is owed a girlhug.
Hope to live up to my word at EVO! Azagtoth, GTC...we gon party.

[Azagtoth]

/\---Fo sho.

Azagtoth: i wish my hair was naturaly straight but it's naturaly very curly ( just like my sexuality, ZING! ) i condition heavily and use a hair straigner to get it the way it is in the picture. beyond that nothing touches my hair, no gel, no spray....dye is a possability.

Same for me, pretty much. I only normally straighten it to the point where it's just more manageable but still kinda wavy (partially because doing an actual straightening job is a complete fucking pain in the ass thanks to the length).

[Lobelia Prime]

fucking pain in the ass thanks to the length).

Heh, heh, heh. Ohhh-riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

[g3nshir0_]

How do you guys feel about crossdressers? I always hear from gay dudes that they dislike them because they are extremely effeminate and they say stuff like "If I wanted a girl I'd be straight"

Personally I'm attracted to femininity in guys...I dunno, it's just a turn on. I think a dude who's able to pull it off is so fucking sexy, but it rarely ever translates well when girls do it...but I've seen some convincing ones.

[Lobelia Prime]

How do you guys feel about crossdressers? I always hear from gay dudes that they dislike them because they are extremely effeminate and they say stuff like "If I wanted a girl I'd be straight"

Personally I'm attracted to femininity in guys...I dunno, it's just a turn on. I think a dude who's able to pull it off is so fucking sexy, but it rarely ever translates well when girls do it...but I've seen some convincing ones.

I don't have an issue with crossdressing boys. I know a number of girls (and guys) for whom that's actually a fetish. Since I'm a tranny, I'm technically a crossdresser myself, so I guess if I did have issues with it, that'd be pretty hypocritical of me.

[g3nshir0_]

Well, I wouldn't lump transexuals in with transvestitism since it's quite deeper and much more profound than dressing up as the opposite gender for the night...

However, some of the gays I've talked to express disapproval not of transexuals, but of transvestites, seeing as how the latter isn't interested in living their life, nor has the psychological mindset of the other sex. I can see where they are coming from, though.

[Lobelia Prime]

Well, I wouldn't lump transexuals in with transvestitism since it's quite deeper and much more profound than dressing up as the opposite gender for the night...

However, some of the gays I've talked to express disapproval not of transexuals, but of transvestites, seeing as how the latter isn't interested in living their life, nor has the psychological mindset of the other sex. I can see where they are coming from, though.

Yeah, drag queens. I can dig. I don't really disapprove of it, it's just a fetish. When I was in the closet, I had a girlfriend who got off to pictures of me dressed like a Catholic schoolgirl. Nothing really wrong with it, just like there's nothing wrong with any other harmless fetish.

[g3nshir0_]

What if you have a fetish for women's feet and then you see this really cute barefoot crossdressing guy and you're like "what do I do, he's a guy but he looks like a woman, is it okay?"

Not that I'm in that position or anything

[Penance]

Heh, heh, heh. Ohhh-riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

you sick little money with your sick little mind :P

as for fem bois, i love them. i wish i had a fem boyfriend. but fembois don't seem to like big guys like me so theres really nothing i can do about it.

[Lobelia Prime]

you sick little money with your sick little mind :P

as for fem bois, i love them. i wish i had a fem boyfriend. but fembois don't seem to like big guys like me so theres really nothing i can do about it.

A friend of mine has that problem. He loves small, feminine boys, but they're all so scared of him. He looks like Mark Henry, though, so that's why.

[iwst99]

A friend of mine has that problem. He loves small, feminine boys, but they're all so scared of him. He looks like Mark Henry, though, so that's why.

*googles*

daaaaaaamn

http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/58/16/0000035816_20061116141753.jpg

No wonder fem bois be scared.

[ramberk]

Super lol

[BeaTs*]

ahahaha. "you must crush them"

[Azagtoth]

Heh, heh, heh. Ohhh-riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

:(

How do you guys feel about crossdressers? I always hear from gay dudes that they dislike them because they are extremely effeminate and they say stuff like "If I wanted a girl I'd be straight"

Personally I'm attracted to femininity in guys...I dunno, it's just a turn on. I think a dude who's able to pull it off is so fucking sexy, but it rarely ever translates well when girls do it...but I've seen some convincing ones.

I don't dislike them as people at all, though it's definitely not my thing.

Femininity in guys is unfortunately a bit of a turnoff for me, but me not wanting to hit it doesn't mean I can't make friends or anything.

On the other hand I LOVE masculinity in girls.

as for fem bois, i love them. i wish i had a fem boyfriend. but fembois don't seem to like big guys like me so theres really nothing i can do about it.

That sucks. As you know, many of us have much love for the bigger guys. =D

[severin]

Long hair crew represent. I probably have the longest hair out of anyone in here, but I'm trimming these damn split ends soon.


Super hair battle go! (http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3997/37btv1.jpg) Now all I need are the sunglasses and I can have a perfect cousin it cosplay.
However, I too need to get rid of ze split ends.

[DaDesiCanadian]

+1 to long hair.

[The Green Trench Coat]

so hows everybody doing.

My bf got into an accident with my car so i went yesterday to buy a new/used one

I read somewhere that you loose 6-7 thousand off the resale value soon as you dirve a brand new car off the lot.. so i bought used .. i bought a 2002 ford escape. gas mileage isn't so bad and it's just a little bigger than a cross over vehicle.


my old car is still driveable but i figured i'll let my bf keep that one till he wants a new one
the damage is about 2500 to fix but the blue book of the car is only like 600 dollars.


accidents suck.

[Penance]

i can't wait till tommrow. $10hr just to help someone move, i hope it lasts all day because that will pay for my DarkLotus tickits. other than that i've been horny, bored and sober. but have been playing street fighter 3, that tends to cheer me up.

[Azagtoth]

Super hair battle go! (http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3997/37btv1.jpg) Now all I need are the sunglasses and I can have a perfect cousin it cosplay.
However, I too need to get rid of ze split ends.

That's awesome. I think you may actually have me beat. :arazz:

I'll straighten it and take a picture later today, it's wavy right now so it seems shorter than it is.

EDIT: That sucks to hear, Rob. I take it Angel is okay?

[Peace[Tony]]

I'm gay, and live in Vegas.

Anyone else out there? <3 Send me a message or use my messengers.

[Azagtoth]

Sev: I just got my ends trimmed. You win the hair battle... for now. =P

Pics soon, camera needs new battery.

[SNAAAAKE]

you bitchs(some of you) get offended by all the gay bashing in south park cartoon? just wondering.

no homo.

[Lobelia Prime]

you bitchs(some of you) get offended by all the gay mashing in south park cartoon? just wondering.

no homo.

I'm a tranny, so I guess I'll answer this on behalf of myself.
When I saw Mr. Garrison's Fancy New Vagina, I laughed so hard that I pissed myself. Fun fact.

[Azagtoth]

gay mashing

That's definitely a new one.

[SNAAAAKE]

fixed..

yeah I am obviously blind :bluu:

[DaDesiCanadian]

Gay mashing = azagtoth playing fighters.

OH SNAP.

[Azagtoth]

Gay mashing = azagtoth playing fighters.

OH SNAP.

Heey, I'm kinda good.

Kinda. :sad:

SNAAAKE: To actually answer your question, I sort of see it in the same vein as racist jokes and I don't really mind those.

[iwst99]

GAY MASHING > y'all

Throwing a BBQ on Monday....people from work, people I bowl with, my BFF from HS, and....DJFAKA>>>>>>WHAAAAAA?????

We gonna play dat maps, that's all I know.

[Azagtoth]

GAY MASHING > y'all

Throwing a BBQ on Monday....people from work, people I bowl with, my BFF from HS, and....DJFAKA>>>>>>WHAAAAAA?????

We gonna play dat maps, that's all I know.

Wait.

[Mechanica]

Ugh. My boss sold the cafe and gave us one single fucking week's notice. There's a severance check and it makes us eligible for unemployment but it's not about the fucking money. At least for me. It's hard as hell for someone that looks like me to get a job in this prude fucking town, and I'm too stubborn to take my piercings out and dye my hair brown.

I really really wanna punch him in the balls.

[DaDesiCanadian]

GAY MASHING > y'all

Throwing a BBQ on Monday....people from work, people I bowl with, my BFF from HS, and....DJFAKA>>>>>>WHAAAAAA?????

We gonna play dat maps, that's all I know.

Just threw a BBQ last night. After three hours of cleanup today, house still looks filthy. :bluu:

[koogy]

;o So, I've never really followed the whole gay thing, even tho' I am. x.x; But, what is the whole bear thing all about? Sorry I am such a noob. ._.;

[DrumlinerJoe]

Bears are bigger and/or hairier dudes. Think John Goodman, Al from Home Improvement, and that's all I can think of at the moment.

[BeaTs*]

Ugh. My boss sold the cafe and gave us one single fucking week's notice. There's a severance check and it makes us eligible for unemployment but it's not about the fucking money. At least for me. It's hard as hell for someone that looks like me to get a job in this prude fucking town, and I'm too stubborn to take my piercings out and dye my hair brown.

I really really wanna punch him in the balls.
that's why didn't go through with all the piercings I wanted to...unless I were to work at places like starbucks and shit all my life.

well, if it's worth it, hopefully you find another job that is ok with 'em

[JustB]

Ugh. My boss sold the cafe and gave us one single fucking week's notice. There's a severance check and it makes us eligible for unemployment but it's not about the fucking money. At least for me. It's hard as hell for someone that looks like me to get a job in this prude fucking town, and I'm too stubborn to take my piercings out and dye my hair brown.

I really really wanna punch him in the balls.

That really does suck. I seriously lucked out with my job, high pay AND trans-friendly? Rock on. I dunno what kind of work you're interested in, but every town's got to have like a starbucks and/or hot topic. I think those companies hire people to show them off as an image type thing.

[Penance]

I'm a tranny, so I guess I'll answer this on behalf of myself.
When I saw Mr. Garrison's Fancy New Vagina, I laughed so hard that I pissed myself. Fun fact.

Hi, i'm Pen, i'm bi and trannies are HAWT ^^

well, this weekend suuucked. what was supposed to be a one day job took up my whole weekend. but i earned $125 so it's cool. that'll cover my concert tickit, a few new CD's and hopefully a new game.

[JustB]

Hi, i'm Pen, i'm bi and trannies are HAWT ^^

well, this weekend suuucked. what was supposed to be a one day job took up my whole weekend. but i earned $125 so it's cool. that'll cover my concert tickit, a few new CD's and hopefully a new game.

Tranny-chaser?

[iwst99]

Welcome to the new peeps...

This weekend was meh...my aunt invited me to her graduation party...so I drove 2 hours there, and when I get there it turns out she wanted me to bartend that shit...WTF??? She even said I couldn't drink cause I would be too drunk to bartend...fuck that. Then her stupid daughter forgot to pick up my uncle, and she's all, IWST, go pick up your uncle...WTF?? Why doesn't she make her stupid daughter go back and get him? So I picked him up, 30 mins away, come back, leave him and tell him to tell them I left. The party was barely going to start when I got there, so I didn't do shit for her...she's known to do that...ugh. I drove 2 hours back home, luckily I got a call, and invited out so went to a bar, which was aight.

Spent most of today shopping for BBQ...shit's expensive! Anyways, DJfaka is coming over later and we're gonna gay 3s it up...fuck yah. And Dat maps...

[DaDesiCanadian]

lol at shitty relatives.

also, what is maps?

[Penance]

Tranny-chaser?

tranny chaser
chubby chaser
fem-boi chaser
cosplay chaser
ocasional furry chaser
all race chaser
home wrecker (caused a divorce last year )

I DGAF, if i see something i want i go for it ^^

" i know you want my body, fat kidz are so sexy, take off all of your cloths come over here and get next to me, BITCH!"~ Jamie Madrox

seem's slutty, and it is. but once i'm in an actual relationship, i'm with that person only, i'm one of those weird freaks who likes monogamy.

[Mechanica]

Wait, koogy plays for Visitor? Awesome.

[JustB]

tranny chaser
chubby chaser
fem-boi chaser
cosplay chaser
ocasional furry chaser
all race chaser
home wrecker (caused a divorce last year )

I DGAF, if i see something i want i go for it ^^

" i know you want my body, fat kidz are so sexy, take off all of your cloths come over here and get next to me, BITCH!"~ Jamie Madrox

seem's slutty, and it is. but once i'm in an actual relationship, i'm with that person only, i'm one of those weird freaks who likes monogamy.

I'm so prudish, I can't even begin to understand this ^_^;

[koogy]

Wait, koogy plays for Visitor? Awesome.

what does this mean ;_;

[Lobelia Prime]

Hi, i'm Pen, i'm bi and trannies are HAWT ^^

You're free to hit me up on AIM for pictures and whatnot if you like. I love posing for fanboys who'll drool for me.

[Azagtoth]

what does this mean ;_;

It means pics plz.

[Zugi]

Koogy is gay? Thats cool. You should go to next west toast and talk with me :3

Anyhow, this is my first week of vacation off of school and I haven't really done anything yet ;[

There's a cutie interested in me though. So I'll probably get active in dating again before I become really busy again.

[Penance]

You're free to hit me up on AIM for pictures and whatnot if you like. I love posing for fanboys who'll drool for me.

drool...right... that's what i'll do with them. *shifty eyes*

[koogy]

I don't have any pictures that are worth looking at yet, unfortunately. I wouldn't want to draw any attention to myself like that. x_x

btw Indian food is the best ever :3~ it's like mega yum.

[Penance]

I don't have any pictures that are worth looking at yet, unfortunately. I wouldn't want to draw any attention to myself like that. x_x

btw Indian food is the best ever :3~ it's like mega yum.

it's alright. i prefer Cajun, Mexican, japanese and melted crayon wax.

[DaDesiCanadian]

btw Indian food is the best ever :3~ it's like mega yum.

yay!

[koogy]

melted crayon wax.

god tier with chalk

[The Green Trench Coat]

going to be in beverly hills june 22nd for the whole week ..

Iwst.. time to party

I'm gonna see if i can get down there that friday evening 19th so that i can have a weekend to chill in LA.

actually I'm going to try to come down on the 21st so that i can get some weekend party time.

[Æther]

Woot! Well I'm back after a week of no internet (don't. say. a. word. Lobelia!) I finally got some good stuff done. I finally got the bumper for my car, switched my schedule at work starting on the 10th next month and my father is going to move out supposedly this week. Things aren't perfect but I'm heading in a good direction.

Yesterday Rob passed by my place while the folks were out... ahem, let's just say I'm exhausted still. Pizza + God of War + movies + snoo snoo = BEST. MEMORIAL. DAY. EVER. :pray:

Towards the end of the day it got real scary though... Rob had left his cellphone at his house since it got cut off. However, his sister, being nosey, looked through his text messages between me and Rob. Rob's friend Gerla, who happened to be there at the moment, passed the bad news to us. Now Rob's sister is throwing conclusions around, saying that if their father found out what was happening we would have to face his "wrath". Rob tells me I shouldn't worry since his father said he would be cool about him being gay if he found out and that I have nothing to do with this situation...

Can't help to be scared of someone who accidently/purposely started a giant fire to get rid of some ant hills. I don't want Rob's dad to cause any "accidents" to me. :shake:
I don't have any pictures that are worth looking at yet, unfortunately. I wouldn't want to draw any attention to myself like that. x_x

btw Indian food is the best ever :3~ it's like mega yum.
Until then...

[DrumlinerJoe]

I'm so prudish, I can't even begin to understand this ^_^;

Plano has a badass drumline.

[JustB]

Plano has a badass drumline.

I guess, I never noticed.

[DrumlinerJoe]

I used to study percussion in San Marcos. Plano had one of the top hs percussion programs in my day. Good times.

[BeaTs*]

no internet (SRK) for a week!? and...you're still alive? not even dying, horribly disfigured, or a vegetable?!?

wait, how old is Rob, why should you have to worry about his father?

DAT Arcana Hearts if quite addictive

[JustB]

I used to study percussion in San Marcos. Plano had one of the top hs percussion programs in my day. Good times.

I actually "graduated" from Plano Senior High. I'm just musically retarded, I guess.

[koogy]

Well, the reason I was asking about the whole bear thing, is because I'm more of a submissive personality an' don't really have the body for what I feel like. >_<; I'm 6'0, 240, mostly chub. v.v; But I magically make it look like I'm not that much weight. The point I'm trying to make is, wouldn't I need like a shag carpet on my chest for bears to be into it? Or no?...

I'm such a noob. T_T

[The Green Trench Coat]

I'm 6'0, 240, mostly chub.


for the love of azagtoth.. Pics please.



also i cut off my hair. :(

I got so annoyed with it and so it's gone.
http://i30.tinypic.com/210ekpj.jpg

[DrumlinerJoe]

Lookin good Rob.

[Æther]

no internet (SRK) for a week!? and...you're still alive? not even dying, horribly disfigured, or a vegetable?!?

wait, how old is Rob, why should you have to worry about his father?

DAT Arcana Hearts if quite addictive
I know, a friggin miracle. I did miss the epic STA thread but oh well. I got a new(ish) CARHHHHHH!!1

Rob turned 28 this year and younger than his sister. The biggest problems I'm worried about, although I don't know his father all TOO well, is that his family is Christian (not sure about the crazy kind or the forgiving kind yet) and that his father had a prior "history". Rob never went into full detail so I let it go.

I have a feeling she won't tell but you never know. Either way me and Rob have a LOT of explaining to do.

[Mechanica]

what does this mean ;_;
Playing for visitor, instead of playing for the home team. It's just a gay reference.

Well, the reason I was asking about the whole bear thing, is because I'm more of a submissive personality an' don't really have the body for what I feel like. >_<; I'm 6'0, 240, mostly chub. v.v; But I magically make it look like I'm not that much weight. The point I'm trying to make is, wouldn't I need like a shag carpet on my chest for bears to be into it? Or no?...

I'm such a noob. T_T
You don't have to have a certain body type to match a personality. It's not like all bear body types are agressive power tops while twinks are submissive bottoms.

[rush down]

You're free to hit me up on AIM for pictures and whatnot if you like. I love posing for fanboys who'll drool for me.

I don't get it, you're a tranny?

[Lobelia Prime]

I don't get it, you're a tranny?

Sure am.

[rush down]

Crazy... never met a tranny (and known it). Cosmetic surgury and everything too? Hows that working out for you? I always like playing the "Tranny or Women?" game.

[Lobelia Prime]

Crazy... never met a tranny (and known it). Cosmetic surgury and everything too? Hows that working out for you? I always like playing the "Tranny or Women?" game.

I haven't had any cosmetic surgery. I'm a male-to-female transsexual, so hormone treatment, cosmetic surgery, etc. are inevitable, but I haven't been able to afford it yet. I was going to start last month, but then I realized...I have to save the fuck up for Evo. After that, I'll be shelling out $175 a month for this shit.
People have told me that with the way I do my hair and the manner in which I dress, I already pass as a girl. I have pics; hit me up on AIM if you wanna see them.

[rush down]

I haven't had any cosmetic surgery. I'm a male-to-female transsexual, so hormone treatment, cosmetic surgery, etc. are inevitable, but I haven't been able to afford it yet. I was going to start last month, but then I realized...I have to save the fuck up for Evo. After that, I'll be shelling out $175 a month for this shit.
People have told me that with the way I do my hair and the manner in which I dress, I already pass as a girl. I have pics; hit me up on AIM if you wanna see them.

What do the hormone treatments do specificly? When you go to gaming events like evo and stuff do people give you shit or look at you funny? If a girl beat me at 3s, I think I would feel a lot better knowning it was just a tranny.

[Lobelia Prime]

What do the hormone treatments do specificly? When you go to gaming events like evo and stuff do people give you shit or look at you funny? If a girl beat me at 3s, I think I would feel a lot better knowning it was just a tranny.

Like I said, dude, hit me up on AIM. I'll answer any questions you have there. AIM or MSN. We don't need to play forum pingpong in the thread, dude.

[JustB]

What do the hormone treatments do specificly? When you go to gaming events like evo and stuff do people give you shit or look at you funny? If a girl beat me at 3s, I think I would feel a lot better knowning it was just a tranny.

Le sigh... because trannies are just dudes who dress up like girls, right?

[Lobelia Prime]

Le sigh... because trannies are just dudes who dress up like girls, right?

Thanks.
I was going to say that, but I didn't want to raise hell. Now that I have someone who agrees with me, hell should consider itself raised.

[rush down]

Without starting any kinda flame war, please explain how what I said was insulting/incorrect.

[JustB]

Thanks.
I was going to say that, but I didn't want to raise hell. Now that I have someone who agrees with me, hell should consider itself raised.

It's not a matter of just agreement, check the myspace page.

I don't know how much I can personally fault him though. I mean to make a statement drenched in that much ignorance...

[SmrK]

Without starting any kinda flame war, please explain how what I said was insulting/incorrect.

I'd imagine that reducing transsexuals to "dudes that dress like girls" would be similar to reducing soldiers to "dudes that dress in fatigues". It's much more I'd imagine.

[Lobelia Prime]

I'd imagine that reducing transsexuals to "dudes that dress like girls" would be similar to reducing soldiers to "dudes that dress in fatigues". It's much more I'd imagine.

Bingo.
A dude who dresses up like a girl is a drag queen. A transsexual is someone who feels dissatisfied with their physical sex, feeling that it doesn't match the gender of their inner person, their soul or whatever.

[rush down]

Man, I was hoping that this was about something else and not just that I said some real shit you guys didn't want to hear. A apple is always an apple no matter how many times you cut away at it or paint it or whatever.

Don't confuse your self driven delusion, for my ignorance. There are healthy ways to be trans-gender, I think you are going about it the wrong way by not facing things how they are. The solider thing is way off. When a personal becomes a solider, they gain the "title" solider... no matter what clothing they wear, no matter their gender, no matter their age. A man who puts on a dress doesn't not magically become anything... Rather he is a man in a dress.

I actually have no problems with men wearing dresses, nor do I have problems with gay people or any life-style related to sexuality. I do have problems with people not doing it in a logical and healthy way.

What you need to be able to say to yourself is.. "I was born a man, some part of me will always been a man, even if I cut off my penis and replace it with something that looks like a pussy. I just wanna be a woman instead."

[Lobelia Prime]

whine bitch moan

If you hate trannies so much then you're in the wrong place. I'm sure Adam Warlock would love to talk to you about how Harisu, Jenny Boylan, and Jamie Saphri are men and any male who likes them is a faggot.

[JustB]

If you hate trannies so much then you're in the wrong place. I'm sure Adam Warlock would love to talk to you about how Harisu, Jenny Boylan, and Jamie Saphri are men and any male who likes them is a faggot.

Harisu is so pretty, I'm jealous. :P

[Lobelia Prime]

Harisu is so pretty, I'm jealous. :P

God, isn't she? She's definitely in the MtF hall of fame for undeniable beauty.

[JustB]

Man, I was hoping that this was about something else and not just that I said some real shit you guys didn't want to hear. A apple is always an apple no matter how many times you cut away at it or paint it or whatever.

Don't confuse your self driven delusion, for my ignorance. There are healthy ways to be trans-gender, I think you are going about it the wrong way by not facing things how they are. The solider thing is way off. When a personal becomes a solider, they gain the "title" solider... no matter what clothing they wear, no matter their gender, no matter their age. A man who puts on a dress doesn't not magically become anything... Rather he is a man in a dress.

I actually have no problems with men wearing dresses, nor do I have problems with gay people or any life-style related to sexuality. I do have problems with people not doing it in a logical and healthy way.

What you need to be able to say to yourself is.. "I was born a man, some part of me will always been a man, even if I cut off my penis and replace it with something that looks like a pussy. I just wanna be a woman instead."

You are very right. The soldier analogy is a bad one. We're all who we are. Let me try to give an example that you may understand...

You're rush down (since I don't know your real name, I'm going to use your handle). You know you're rush down. You've always been rush down. However, I say you're not rush down. I say you're rainbow bright. You don't look like rush down to me, you look like rainbow bright. See? This person here says you're rainbow bright too... so does that person... and that one. Look. See? In the mirror, you look like rainbow bright. But you're rush down, you say? No, you're wrong. You're rainbow bright. We all see that you're rainbow bright. Stop insisting that you're rush down. You need to realize that you're not really rush down, you're rainbow bright. Ok, you can wear rush down's clothes, but your still just rainbow bright. You're not fooling anyone. We can all see that you're rainbow bright. You're never going to convince anyone that you're not rainbow bright and you're actually rush down. Even if you did manage to get someone to see you as rush down, as soon as we tell them that we all know you're rainbow bright, they won't be able to see you as anything but rainbow bright.

See where I'm going with this?

I can already see that you just associate who we are as something deeply embedded in sexuality. That preconception is what practically everyone seems to get hung up on: "Oh, well, they just do this for sexual excitement." Gender =/= sex.

By the way. Please continue to tell us who we are, what we should be doing, and how we should feel. kthxbai

[rush down]

If you hate trannies so much then you're in the wrong place.

I just said I have no problems with trannies. You are confusing my realism with hatred. By not playing along with the way you like to view it, I have become hateful? I could go on and try to explain this further, but the defensive barrier you have developed over the years regarding your sexuality would block any kind of reason.

EDIT: Blah here I go a little anyways....
I'm not telling you how to run your lives. I'm not telling you who you should fuck or who you should be attracted to. I'm just saying, if I acknowledge you as a man... don't get pissed. You have a penis... you are a MAN. You might be a man who wants to be a woman, who wants to fuck men, but you are still a man. And someone simply acknowledging this, isn't hateful. I'm not saying that because you are a man you should act like a man, I'm just saying you got a dick.

And because you have a dick, its ok to lose to you in fighting games. If you had a pussy, it wouldn't be ok. Not at all ok.

And yes, a man in a dress is nothing more than a man in a dress. Nothing magical about it. Instead of thinking of that person as a women trapt in a mans body and thats why its ok that hes wearing a dress, simply know that a man in a dress is ok. Ok?

[severin]

I just said I have no problems with trannies. You are confusing my realism with hatred. By not playing along with the way you like to view it, I have become hateful? I could go on and try to explain this further, but the defensive barrier you have developed over the years regarding your sexuality would block any kind of reason.

Just out of curiosity, what leads you to believe that your view is "realism", rather than one of many views on a rather complex issue?

[JustB]

Penis = Man

For your sake, I hope nothing happens to yours.

[rush down]

Just out of curiosity, what leads you to believe that your view is "realism", rather than one of many views on a rather complex issue?

My claim is, if someone was born a man, no matter happens, they were always once a man, and still retain many qualities of being a man.

Personally I believe a lot of trans-genders like to pretend they are now 100% (place new gender here). If a man puts on womans clothing, no matter how convincing she/he might be, its still a man in a womans clothing. If I acknowledge that its a man in womans clothing they have no right to be angry at me or call me ignorant.

You can break all the mirrors in your house, but don't touch mine.

People see this realism and say "How dare you! Hateful asshole!" But personally, I don't think you need to be woman, magically trapt in a mans body to justify whatever you wanna do with your life.

[Lobelia Prime]

tl;dr

Hokay, here I go correcting you.
1. You aren't speaking fact. You're speaking opinion. Your view on transsexuality places all emphasis on the physical, when the problem is much more mental than it is physical. I am not defined by my body. Neither are you, neither is The Green Trench Coat, or James Woods, or Hootie, or anyone else. If you honestly think that a person's body defines who they are one hundred percent, then I pity you, because you are as shallow as a human being can possibly be.
2. I'm sexually attracted to women exclusively.
3. It's never okay to lose to a girl in a fighting game? What kind of idiot are you? Are you saying that because a person has ovaries that they aren't ever going to be good at fighters? :rofl: You're probably worthless at 3S.
4. A man in a dress is a man in a dress. A woman trapped in a man's body is a woman trapped in a man's body. There is a difference. I could put a dress on Dave Batista and he'd still be a man. The dress makes no difference, it's not about what someone wears, it's about who someone is, and a transgender person is, to me, a victim of a genetic fluke. I was supposed to be born female. I wasn't. I'm going to fix that no matter how much you and your kind bitch about it.
Welcome to my ignore list, you ignorant jackass.

[JustB]

My claim is, if someone was born a man, no matter happens, they were always once a man, and still retain many qualities of being a man.

Personally I believe a lot of trans-genders like to pretend they are now 100% (place new gender here). If a man puts on womans clothing, no matter how convincing she/he might be, its still a man in a womans clothing. If I acknowledge that its a man in womans clothing they have no right to be angry at me or call me ignorant.

You can break all the mirrors in your house, but don't touch mine.

People see this realism and say "How dare you! Hateful asshole!" But personally I don't think you need to be woman, magically trapt in a mans body to justify whatever you wanna do with your life.

Which begs the question: If you never knew that a girl used to look like a boy, does that still make them a boy? If the only way you knew that someone was transgendered was that they told you, would you still contend that they are still the opposite gender than what you perceived them to be?

Now what if they never told you and you never knew? Are they still the opposite gender than what you perceive them to be?

[severin]

things

I hate to repeat myself, but somehow I don't see that equating to "real". Yes, I agree it's hard to see why people want to be something other than what they were born as. As part of the SRK gender issues crew, I think I can say pretty safely, it's hard to really get it unless you're experiencing it yourself.

Or we can settle this the civilized way...

IBUKI MIRROR MATCH

EDIT: They explained it better, forget what I said.

[SmrK]

You are very right. The soldier analogy is a bad one. We're all who we are.


Why? Just pointing out that it's not what you wear that define who you are.

[severin]

EDIT: I read this completely wrong, and responded according to what I thought I had read.

[rush down]

IBUKI MIRROR MATCH


Don't say that too loud... I'm about 2 hours from you by Shinkansen and can actually make that happen. Do you have mame/kaillera?

It's too bad what's his face had to block me. My shit is just way to real for him. Best he block this information out in order to preserve his. :confused:


SmrK
"Why? Just pointing out that it's not what you wear that define who you are."

Exactly... wearing womans clothing does not change your gender. Your statement helps my argument more than yours.

[severin]

Do you have mame/kaillera?


I can emulate windows, but it won't be the same, because the fact of the matter is that it's a mac, and nothing will change that.

So ya, I can't quite Kaillera/GGPO to work quite right even in bootcamp.

[SmrK]

*Long, overly dramatic sigh* Read the previous page. It's more than clothes.
That's what I've been trying to say...


SmrK
"Why? Just pointing out that it's not what you wear that defines who you are."

Exactly... wearing womans clothing does not change your gender. Your statement helps my argument more than yours.


Ummm, no... It's not the clothes that make them transsexuals. It goes way deeper than that. You are defined by your psyche and a woman in a mans body will be a woman in a mans body regardless of what he/she wears.

[JustB]

Why? Just pointing out that it's not what you wear that define who you are.

The reason I said it was a bad analogy is that one could argue that someone becomes a soldier and isn't necessarily born one. But you're right, it's not the clothes.

[JustB]

SmrK
"Why? Just pointing out that it's not what you wear that define who you are."

Exactly... wearing womans clothing does not change your gender. Your statement helps my argument more than yours.

Are you saying that clothing isn't tailored to express one's self? I suppose you walk around naked then? Do you deny there's a difference in how clothing is tailored to fit women differently than it is to fit men?

[Azagtoth]

Well, the reason I was asking about the whole bear thing, is because I'm more of a submissive personality an' don't really have the body for what I feel like. >_<; I'm 6'0, 240, mostly chub. v.v; But I magically make it look like I'm not that much weight. The point I'm trying to make is, wouldn't I need like a shag carpet on my chest for bears to be into it? Or no?...

I'm such a noob. T_T

Well, there's also the chub/chaser scene, which is a bit of an offshoot of the bear scene that moreso emphasizes the love of the pudge. Because the bear thing includes chubby/husky body types as well, bears and chubs often intertwine (big/husky bears can pass as chubs, chubs with some facial/body hair or a bear/cub/daddy-ish look can pass as bears, etc).

That should clear things up a little. =P

And god dammit pics NOW. :(

Rushdown: Gender identity =/= sexuality. You're confusing the two hardcore.

Rob: Good shit. I gotta get a pic of my hair now, it looks a fuckload healthier.

[The Green Trench Coat]

Lookin good Rob.

that means everything coming from you sexy. Now if we could just get koogy to post pics.

[Æther]

that means everything coming from you sexy. Now if we could just get koogy to post pics.
Peer pressure! Peer pressure! Peer pressure!

P.S. This thread is ghey

[severin]

I'd be all over this pic whoring thing if my current photos weren't... err... naked and such (the bf dragged me along to a shoot >.>)

[BeaTs*]

nekkid pic whoring is all right :tup:

but...simply take some clothed ones? or cut out the nekkid parts? or photoshop....or if you really ghetto, MS Paint them out :lol:

[Penance]

what douchebaggery hath befallen this thread? either way, funny screen cap, enjoy.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e284/Penance17420/HA.jpg

[LightningStorm]

Too many feelings being bandied about around issues like this. :sigh: Such is life on the planet Earth. There are however cold hard facts to the whole thing.

First let's clarify exactly what the various "trans..." words even mean, because they are often not used correctly.

The shortened term "Tranny" is the biggest offender of being misused because it doesn't take into consideration the different definitions of transvestite, transgendered, and transsexual. And at any given usage you never know which the speaker is talking about.

A Transvestite is one who is physically one gender but dresses/acts as another. Most notably a man dressed as a woman. Or a drag queen. --Note here, that let's say a man dresses up as a woman for say Halloween or as a stunt, this does not make them a transvestite. A Transvestite does this with some level of seriousness, not "for fun."

A Transsexual is one who personally and mentally strongly identifies with a gender that they were not born with. And almost always seeks surgery to make that physical change. -- The difference here for example for someone who is pre-op is that a pre-op transsexual is NOT a transvestite even though they are seriously dressing up in the opposite genders' clothes and acting as such. Here it is the personal internal identification with the opposite gender that makes them transsexual. A transvestite does not personally identify with that opposite gender, but simply dresses and acts as such.

The term Transgender is more of a 'catch-all' if you will. It literally means one who transcends the normal gender boundaries and therefore encompasses both transvestite and transsexual.

Now, that said, there are specific definitions for "male" and "female" too. One can mentally identify with the opposite sex all they want, and insist on being referred to with pronouns appropriate to that sex (that is their right). That however does not change the fact that those two terms are definitions of PHYSICAL characteristics of a person, not mental ones. The terms for mental and non-physical mannerisms related to sex are "masculine and feminine" not "male and female."

Now, rush down, you said that (paraphrasing) one shouldn't or can't get mad because you referred to a m->f transsexual as a male. You're wrong on this. While said person is by definition a male, they have every right to be referred to as what every they want to be referred to as. It's like someone up-thread said you can tell me to call you "rush down," and you have every right to be upset if I call you "rainbow bright" (<<lol at that btw) instead. If someone seriously wants to be referred to as a cockroach, however odd you may think it, that's what you should refer to them as -- and if you don't then expect them to be mad about the fact that you didn't.

[iwst99]

what douchebaggery hath befallen this thread? either way, funny screen cap, enjoy.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e284/Penance17420/HA.jpg

That's looks an awful lot like the same post of a screen shot I posted a long as time ago......

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5096207&postcount=5733

[ramberk]

If you get tired of dating gay chubs, ya can also buy some 2Pac ring tones.

This thread gets the most... interesting and random ads.

[Penance]

That's looks an awful lot like the same post of a screen shot I posted a long as time ago......

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5096207&postcount=5733

haha, yeah it does. i guess we both found it funny. you beat me to the punch. by weeks. the first time i ever saqw the banner was today.

in other news i've played so much KoFXI and NGBC my thumbs busted open ^^

[Azagtoth]

haha, yeah it does. i guess we both found it funny. you beat me to the punch. by weeks. the first time i ever saqw the banner was today.

in other news i've played so much KoFXI and NGBC my thumbs busted open ^^

If you're going to the big gay evo party we should play some. I used to main SNK games. =D

[rush down]

Now, rush down, you said that (paraphrasing) one shouldn't or can't get mad because you referred to a m->f transsexual as a male. You're wrong on this. While said person is by definition a male, they have every right to be referred to as what every they want to be referred to as. It's like someone up-thread said you can tell me to call you "rush down," and you have every right to be upset if I call you "rainbow bright" (<<lol at that btw) instead. If someone seriously wants to be referred to as a cockroach, however odd you may think it, that's what you should refer to them as -- and if you don't then expect them to be mad about the fact that you didn't.

No. Not at all. It doesn't matter what you want to be a called. It has nothing to do with what I want to be called. And don't ever confuse things like "title" with "gender" or any quality. If someone wants me to call them something different (say they change their name from Bobby to Bob) it's worlds different than someone saying "refer to me as a girl".

Would you honestly walk into a woman's bathroom as a man and when all the ladies in there get pissed, would you be like "hateful ignorant bitches! Can't you see I'm a woman!?" Or when you go to the doctor, would you put female on the health form and then get mad at the doctor when he find a penis on you? No matter what you want it doesn't make it more or less a reality and doesn't change the quality.

So not only can't you ask to be "referred to as what every they want to be referred to as", but you don't have the right.

Now it would be easy for transexuals to have it that way though wouldn't it? They just ask to become something from the public and we are assholes or ignorant to not comply. But in the end, you are deluding yourselves. I know this argument is a hard one because it deals with peoples hopes/wishing and identity. Its almost like religion in the way that if I don't agree with your views on god/gender, I am insulting you. No matter how much you want something to be true, it doesn't make it any more true.

I think you get the point. I'll continue on if don't understand something I've said or have questions about my view on this.

[iwst99]

*Puts few people on ignore in this thread for the time being*


mmmmm nick frost.

[Penance]

If you're going to the big gay evo party we should play some. I used to main SNK games. =D


if i was going to evo i'd deffinatly show up, if nothing else just to play games.

[koogy]

Well, there's also the chub/chaser scene, which is a bit of an offshoot of the bear scene that moreso emphasizes the love of the pudge. Because the bear thing includes chubby/husky body types as well, bears and chubs often intertwine (big/husky bears can pass as chubs, chubs with some facial/body hair or a bear/cub/daddy-ish look can pass as bears, etc).

That should clear things up a little. =P

And god dammit pics NOW. :(


Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. I dunno how into the whole thing I'd be, honestly... I'm relatively shy, and take some time to kinda open up to this sort've thing, but new things are worth it? I'll upload some pictures when I can steal my ex-girlfriend's camera sometime. .-.; So... maybe soon?...

[JustB]

Would you honestly walk into a woman's bathroom as a man and when all the ladies in there get pissed, would you be like "hateful ignorant bitches! Can't you see I'm a woman!?" Or when you go to the doctor, would you put female on the health form and then get mad at the doctor when he find a penis on you? No matter what you want it doesn't make it more or less a reality and doesn't change the quality.

We don't go into the women's bathroom as a man (and conversely FtMs don't go into the men's bathroom as a woman). Again, look at Harisu. If you didn't know that she was labeled as male at birth, would you think twice about her going in to the women's restroom? What if she walked in to the men's restroom while you were standing at the urinal? Believe it or not, the law here in Texas states that as far as public restrooms go, you use the one that you present yourself as. So that means if I present myself as male, I use the men's restroom. If I present as female, I use the women's restroom. This is a big part of why "passing" is important to the transgendered. We have to conform to society's ideas of binary gender in order to appease people's insecurities.

If someone completes transition and has their legal forms and birth certificate to show them as female, then yes, they put 'female' on the health form because they are legally female. You don't even know the process and you're basing your argument off of your own ignorance in the matter. The reality is that we know what we are, rainbow bright.

So not only can't you ask to be "referred to as what every they want to be referred to as", but you don't have the right.

Actually, if my driver's license or state ID says female and/or my birth certificate says female, I have every right to be referred to as female. If you insist on referring to someone as male when all legal documentation says that they're female, I'm pretty sure whoever you're doing it to has the option of legal recourse (depending on the severity of the situation, of course).

No matter how much you want something to be true, it doesn't make it any more true.

I could say the same to you. I see your views as ignorant (probably because you don't want to think that you may actually not know what the hell you're talking about) while you see ours as foolish fantasy (i'm guessing). Who's viewpoint is truth? You can have other people say that yours is truth, but I also have people that can say that I'm the one speaking the truth. What do we measure by? Who's truth is more true?

I think you get the point. I'll continue on if don't understand something I've said or have questions about my view on this.

I think I'm totally wasting my time trying to talk to you seeing has how you haven't responded to anything that I've said so far. I'm almost hoping that you're just really good at trolling. I'd like you to do me (and possibly yourself) a favor and try to use your imagination real quick:

I'm going to assume that you identify as a heterosexual male for this (if you're not, try to imagine that you are).

You meet a girl who's smart and funny and for whatever reason, you just really enjoy spending time with her. Maybe you guys date, maybe you don't. Maybe you have sex maybe not. But let's say after a couple of months or years, you two find yourselves just really comfortable around each other and for whatever reason, she decides that she should tell you that she was labeled as male when she was born. What would you do? I mean, this is a girl that you've really enjoyed spending your time with. Has everything changed now? Would you yell at her? Hit her? You've been betrayed, right? This girl has fooled you for so long. Wait, this isn't a girl, this is a guy in a dress, right? What do you do?

Just something to think about the next time you start to like someone. How much does it matter?

Either way, I'm done with this. It's almost like I'm beating my head against a wall. See you around, rainbow bright.

[ramberk]

Rainbow Bright not so Bright? More like Rainbow Dim Light Bulb.

[severin]

Wait... what? I might not be the best at crafting insults but...


...

what?


Anyways, might as well let this one die down, just like every other little flareup on this thread. Back to gay things... good ones.

[rush down]

I could say the same to you. I see your views as ignorant (probably because you don't want to think that you may actually not know what the hell you're talking about) while you see ours as foolish fantasy (i'm guessing). Who's viewpoint is truth? You can have other people say that yours is truth, but I also have people that can say that I'm the one speaking the truth. What do we measure by? Who's truth is more true?.

This is the same terribly embarrassing argument the religious use. "I have 6 million believers! It must be true!!"

No, a dick is a dick. No way around it. No matter how many people agree with something, that doesn't make it anymore real/true/correct.



You meet a girl who's smart and funny and for whatever reason, you just really enjoy spending time with her. Maybe you guys date, maybe you don't. Maybe you have sex maybe not. But let's say after a couple of months or years, you two find yourselves just really comfortable around each other and for whatever reason, she decides that she should tell you that she was labeled as male when she was born. What would you do? I mean, this is a girl that you've really enjoyed spending your time with. Has everything changed now? Would you yell at her? Hit her? You've been betrayed, right? This girl has fooled you for so long. Wait, this isn't a girl, this is a guy in a dress, right? What do you do?


I can't believe someone would actually be so selfish as to trick someone like that. Seriously, thats deception at it's worst and truely dispicable. You wouldn't sell fools gold to someone and then be like "'Its justified, he didn't know it wasn't really gold. My gain, his loss.". If someone did that to me I would break up with on the spot, mainly because they are a liar, and I can't share love with someone who is willing to lie to me about something so massive.

There are other things in your post I really don't agree with, but this is like walking into a church and saying their god is false. No matter what I say you won't get any of it because you don't want to hear it (hence the block from whats his face). I also have to catch a train now.

[Mechanica]

@rd - You seriously are saying someone doesn't have the right to simply request enough common respect to essentially consider them another gender, or at least not antagonize them by bringing up the point that they were physically born a male? I mean sure, it's your right to always consider them, in your opinion, a man. But to just blatantly disrespect how they truly feel at their deepest, inner core of their conscious? That's pretty lame

This is the same terribly embarrassing argument the religious use. "I have 6 million believers! It must be true!!"

Why are you referencing religion? You're comparing someone pressing their beliefs in a supernatural existence to someone asking that you don't call them a dude, basically?



No, a dick is a dick. No way around it. No matter how many people agree with something, that doesn't make it anymore real/true/correct.
He's not trying to deny that he is scientifically/physically born as a male, you're the one who doesn't get it... it's not about not wanting to hear it. I want to hear something that makes sense? Maybe I missed a part of this argument.


I can't believe someone would actually be so selfish as to trick someone like that. Seriously, thats deception at it's worst and truely dispicable. You wouldn't sell fools gold to someone and then be like "'Its justified, he didn't know it wasn't really gold. My gain, his loss.". If someone did that to me I would break up with on the spot, mainly because they are a liar, and I can't share love with someone who is willing to lie to me about something so massive..

...assuming you're dating. Any decent person would reveal that upon saying there's a romantic connection. What about just friends? Would you just start calling 'em 'he' and 'man'?

EDIT: Oh, you're only talking about pre-op transgender? What about someone who's gone through the surgeries, and hormone treatments (testosterone is a part of the masculine traits males have, no?) and all that? All your references have been to the physical aspects, and your shotdowns have all been "you have a penis, you're a man"... Like literally everything you said was if a man puts on a dress he's not female. Transgenders are not just people dressing in the opposite gender's clothing... Your religious reference was far worse than the soldier reference, I can't tell if you're ignoring the fact that there are men, who feel like men that dress as women, and then there are transgenders.

[Lobelia Prime]

Just put rainbow bright on your ignore list, you guys. He's a complete moron, no one likes him, and he's trolling with the specific intent to piss you off.
I don't let lower forms of life get to me. Now you guys do the same. Be the big bad bears I know you are. :lovin:

[Mechanica]

Does anybody else think that when beats of devil was talking about the OTHER guy that ditched him, that GTC quoted it and thought he was talking shit about GTC, then got defensive and escalated that little fight?

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5136897&postcount=5970

[JustB]

I'm sorry for coming in here and starting a rukus, guys. I've been seeing this kind of attitude a lot lately and I let my frustrations get the best of me (on an internet forum of all places :tdown:) I'm letting this drop.

Again, my apologies. I hope you can forgive me.

[Kix]

Mechanica, I think he's just saying it is the same fallacious argument being used. Higher numbers of people saying something or being aligned with something in whatever way does not make it true. (from his "religious reference")

[rush down]

Mechanica, I think he's just saying it is the same fallacious argument being used. Higher numbers of people saying something or being aligned with something in whatever way does not make it true. (from his "religious reference")

Exactly, I don't know how anyone read what I said differently.

[Penance]

Exactly, I don't know how anyone read what I said differently.

i think it's cute you think people actualy waste their time reading your longer posts.

[The Green Trench Coat]

Does anybody else think that when beats of devil was talking about the OTHER guy that ditched him, that GTC quoted it and thought he was talking shit about GTC, then got defensive and escalated that little fight?

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5136897&postcount=5970


no. nobody else thinks that. and it wasn't even a fight at least not from my end. I don't dislike beats at all and harbor no ill will toward him.

I'm nothing but nice to all of you guys so you'll forgive me for speaking up for myself instead of turning the cheek for the sake of the appearance of peace. If it's bothering me.. its gonna be bothering you.

I understand you trying to steer the conversation away from the controversey but the GTC exit isnt going to be used.

But nice attempt to wake a sleeping dog.

[The Green Trench Coat]

So i need a little perspective here.

A situation has come up and everyone is looking at me like I"m crazy for being upset for not being notified. Since you guys seem to take opposing veiwpoints on stuff i say i'll put it to you.

- Person A wants to come to new york for an event and cant afford it.
- Person B offers to fly and board Person A to new york for the event and to stay a long as they need
- Person A accepts the offer.
- Person A then makes plans to stay hangout with and party with persons C- Z
- Person A never calls / emails/ notifies in anyway that these are the new plans
- Day of Person b is like .. uhm.. wtf are you still comming? are you staying with us? do we need to get you from the airport?
- person A is like oh. Im coming to new york.. but made other plans.

Is person B fucked up for thinking .. there should have been a correspondance of somesort indicating that plans were made from person A?

[JustB]

So i need a little perspective here.

A situation has come up and everyone is looking at me like I"m crazy for being upset for not being notified. Since you guys seem to take opposing veiwpoints on stuff i say i'll put it to you.

- Person A wants to come to new york for an event and cant afford it.
- Person B offers to fly and board Person A to new york for the event and to stay a long as they need
- Person A accepts the offer.
- Person A then makes plans to stay hangout with and party with persons C- Z
- Person A never calls / emails/ notifies in anyway that these are the new plans
- Day of Person b is like .. uhm.. wtf are you still comming? are you staying with us? do we need to get you from the airport?
- person A is like oh. Im coming to new york.. but made other plans.

Is person B fucked up for thinking .. there should have been a correspondance of somesort indicating that plans were made from person A?

I know people like person A. They apparently don't realize or care that someone else is making special arrangements for them. Person A is a douche. Fuck person A.

[LightningStorm]

Is person B fucked up for thinking .. there should have been a correspondance of somesort indicating that plans were made from person A?

No, Person B is fucked up for being so trustworthy and nice.

Person B should refund all tickets and cut all ties with Person A and strand that person in New York.

Meanness FTW!

[koogy]

So i need a little perspective here.

A situation has come up and everyone is looking at me like I"m crazy for being upset for not being notified. Since you guys seem to take opposing veiwpoints on stuff i say i'll put it to you.

- Person A wants to come to new york for an event and cant afford it.
- Person B offers to fly and board Person A to new york for the event and to stay a long as they need
- Person A accepts the offer.
- Person A then makes plans to stay hangout with and party with persons C- Z
- Person A never calls / emails/ notifies in anyway that these are the new plans
- Day of Person b is like .. uhm.. wtf are you still comming? are you staying with us? do we need to get you from the airport?
- person A is like oh. Im coming to new york.. but made other plans.

Is person B fucked up for thinking .. there should have been a correspondance of somesort indicating that plans were made from person A?

Yeah, absolutely. The reason they are now in new York, hanging out with their friends is due to the fact of Person B. The whole reason Person B invited them was to hang out, probably.

[The Green Trench Coat]

No, Person B is fucked up for being so trustworthy and nice.

Person B should refund all tickets and cut all ties with Person A and strand that person in New York.

Meanness FTW!

cold as ice. lol :bgrin::bgrin::bgrin:

[DaDesiCanadian]

Person A needs to go kill himself, seriously.

[Adam Warlock]

Person B fucked up for not making it explicitly clear that the plan is to hang out. As written, the plan is for B to get A there and then... nothing. Person A obviously had a reason for wanting to go which did not include Person B, or else person B would not have had to offer to pay and tag along. Both A and B should have made their intentions/expectations clear from the jump.

[Penance]

Person B should track down person A and be like "get to suckin bitch"

[The Green Trench Coat]

Person B fucked up for not making it explicitly clear that the plan is to hang out. As written, the plan is for B to get A there and then... nothing. Person A obviously had a reason for wanting to go which did not include Person B, or else person B would not have had to offer to pay and tag along. Both A and B should have made their intentions/expectations clear from the jump.

understand .. it was NEVER the plan to "Hang out with person A" But if person B is going to stay in your house.. and then they arent going to stay in your house.

a simple phone call or email would suffice.

[Adam Warlock]

understand .. it was NEVER the plan to "Hang out with person A" But if person B is going to stay in your house.. and then they arent going to stay in your house.

a simple phone call or email would suffice.

I missed that part. I agree that if you're going out of your way to accomodate them then the least they can do is let you know they don't need your help.

[Azagtoth]

No matter what I say you won't get any of it because you don't want to hear it

The inverse is true as well, apparently (you're not remotely intent on hearing anything they have to say either), so it's interesting that you'd say something like that.

And believe it or not you ARE knocking (to be more precise, trivializing) what they do, so they have every right to get offended and block you. You don't seem to agree, but in reality, it's really not that simple an issue (physical gender versus gender identity versus sexuality, all are very separate things) and there isn't a single simple answer to it for the person afflicted. I have trouble believing that, were you to be born as you are but in a female body, you'd have no problem being feminine and dating men because the physical gender is the only basis for these behaviors you've allowed yourself to have.

As far as the "fallacious argument" thing, you missed the point entirely. He wasn't claiming he had greater numbers on his side (apparently you didn't bother to read the rest of it), he was claiming that you have no more of a basis to call anything you've said so far "truth" than they do. There's no way to measure because you're arguing an opinion, and a grossly misinformed one at that.

Mechanica, I think he's just saying it is the same fallacious argument being used. Higher numbers of people saying something or being aligned with something in whatever way does not make it true. (from his "religious reference")

Wow, long time no see.

Person A is a dickhead.
Person B is awesome.
Dickhead fucks over awesome person

Person B should hulk smash Person A, and then chill with and check out hot chubs with Person C instead.

:encore:

Koogy: No problem. Believe me, I was just as confused as you when I was first getting into it.

[Kix]

Wow, long time no see.


i luv u so much babi

[The Green Trench Coat]

i luv u so much babi

hey!! </jealousy >

[iwst99]

hey!! </jealousy >

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CxQhx4t1FmE&fmt=18

[The Green Trench Coat]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CxQhx4t1FmE&fmt=18

are you gonna be around the week of the 23rd of june? I'm in beverly hills all that week

[iwst99]

are you gonna be around the week of the 23rd of june? I'm in beverly hills all that week

Yeaaaaaaah, boi. We gotta party. I'll be around that week.

[koogy]

:3

x

[The Green Trench Coat]

:3

x

pixx

[Mechanica]

:rolleyes:





























amir amir amir


oh and pyrolee pyrolee pyrolee dont forget that faggot

[amandainnswooo]

I don't have a question But two guys kissing is fing HOT I am a straight girl btw:)

[Lobelia Prime]

I don't have a question But two guys kissing is fing HOT I am a straight girl btw:)

You are in the WRONG place, fangirl. These aren't the gay guys in your little yaoi mangas. These are bears.

[amandainnswooo]

You are in the WRONG place, fangirl. These aren't the gay guys in your little yaoi mangas. These are bears.

http://happinessbunny.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/kissing100507-3.jpg and I have no clue what "little yaoi mangas. These are bears" means

[Lobelia Prime]

http://happinessbunny.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/kissing100507-3.jpg
*sigh*
Again, none of that in here. What you'll find is one transsexual (me) and from then on all you'll see is this. (http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/58/16/0000035816_20061116141753.jpg)

[Valaris]

By the way, you're not a girl until you post pics as proof.

[Lobelia Prime]

By the way, you're not a girl until you post pics as proof.

:rofl: Yeah, she's a black guy until proven otherwise.

[severin]

*sigh*
Again, none of that in here. What you'll find is one transsexual (me) and from then on all you'll see is this. (http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/58/16/0000035816_20061116141753.jpg)

Or some of this (http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/174/onepointcroppedvq3.jpg)... occasionally...

[Lobelia Prime]

Or some of this (http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/174/onepointcroppedvq3.jpg)... occasionally...


There's that here?
Seriously, I thought this was the bear cave.

[eddymasta]

haha, i'm definitely no bear; although I only lurk, really.

[severin]

There's that here?
Seriously, I thought this was the bear cave.

Okay, so I might be the only one (I's the one in the right in that picture), but still, at least it's some presence.

I'm starting to think we need an SRGay roster now.

[Lobelia Prime]

Yeah, it is some presence. My bad, dudes.

[Penance]

But i love yaoi boys! i took a test that said i'm a dominate uke. wich dosn't make sence till you realize i get the most pleasure from pleasing the one i'm with.

[JustB]

*sigh*
Again, none of that in here. What you'll find is one transsexual (me) and from then on all you'll see is this. (http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/58/16/0000035816_20061116141753.jpg)

/me is chopped liver

*tear*

[Lobelia Prime]

/me is chopped liver

*tear*

Nah, you're just new to me. I don't know you foo.

[DaDesiCanadian]

But i love yaoi boys! i took a test that said i'm a dominate uke. wich dosn't make sence till you realize i get the most pleasure from pleasing the one i'm with.

*sense.

Yes, I posted just to correct that.

Yes, I am a Grammar Nazi douchebag.

[Daemos]

So who are my fellow gay, lesbian and transgender members on here? I always thought I was the only gay the village...

[Æther]

Ohhh! Me! Me! Me! /gay

Man I can't wait for the 10th. I'll actually join society once again with a reasonable schedule and be with the BF more often. Either that or just quit and get a better job.

[Lobelia Prime]

So who are my fellow gay, lesbian and transgender members on here? I always thought I was the only gay the village...

Transgender Champion right here.
*poses* I'm the fucking Glamazon, you can't touch this.

[iwst99]

Yeah...whoever is saying only bears post here...wtf?

I'm no bear,
Mechanica is not a bear,
DJFaka is not a bear,
dadesicanadian is not a bear,
Jimmy the hand is a dyke.

[Daemos]

I'm not a bear. However, I occasionally indulge in my furry desires...

[Lobelia Prime]

Yeah...whoever is saying only bears post here...wtf?

I'm no bear,
Mechanica is not a bear,
DJFaka is not a bear,
dadesicanadian is not a bear,
Jimmy the hand is a dyke.

I said that so that annoying fangirl would make tracks.
And what is the deal with Jimmy the Hand? Is that a lesbian or something?

[JustB]

So who are my fellow gay, lesbian and transgender members on here? I always thought I was the only gay the village...

I'm here to encroach on Lobelia Mk. IV's status as the only transgender ^_^;

[Lobelia Prime]

I'm here to encroach on Lobelia Mk. IV's status as the only transgender ^_^;

Oh, I'm not the only tranny. I'm not even the first. I'm just the loudest. ^______^