Not another Gay thread... version 2.0.5

[The Green Trench Coat]

okay .. i'm pretty sure i'm going to evo.

i checked and i have like 24 vacation days that i havent used. I'm just gonna look up how close this hotel is to other shit in vegas and see if my other friend is comming with me or not. I think my BF isn't gonna come.

[DrumlinerJoe]

When in June you gonna be in Austin GTC? I gotta check with my days off.

Moar pics!!! :D

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l301/joetx/Image000.jpg

[great cow lord]

took the link out~

seriously,i've been on this site the whole day waiting for uploaded pictures

I don't know if you guys ever heard of this site,pretty much guys post pictures of themselves using their iphone. naked,shirtless, casual.

made my day, well kinda.


going back to my drinking . a.k.a. my birthday is today so it's time for me to get fucked up B)

[BeaTs*]

I seen that site

you can't link to that on SRK...

[DrumlinerJoe]

Happy b-day GCL. Spankings!

[Bastion]

nsfw : censor

seriously,i've been on this site the whole day waiting for uploaded pictures


happy birthday and thanks for the present. that site's too good.

[DrumlinerJoe]

Bastion I hate to be forward, but you're definitely a dude who needs to post more pics of himself.

[BeaTs*]

lol...gcl...I'd recommend removing that link soon....

the site is alright, gets boring after a while. there are much better tumblrs out there...especially ones that appeal more to our (gay thread in general) tastes ;)

[eboNicS]

LOL what a strange site, exhibitionists anonymous!

[BlodiaVulcan5]

Getting banned on your birthday isn't fun, cow lord. Remove the link.

So who likes to see a furry bear dancing in spandex? I know I do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EebBn0H6ORI

[great cow lord]

Just got back home, I'm exhausted. Drinking at 3 pm till 2 am isn't a good thing.

I removed the link, Bastion can you remove the link from the post you quoted me on? Thanks.

[sh1fty]

Getting banned on your birthday isn't fun, cow lord. Remove the link.

So who likes to see a furry bear dancing in spandex? I know I do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EebBn0H6ORI

That was strangely erotic.


BTW, Sims 3 is bomb. I have a bear house maid that wears a wife-beater and camo shorts and a little speedo when he goes swimming. :D

[DrumlinerJoe]

Who here has an IM? I'm awake, slightly tipsy,and bored.

[bear]

okay .. i'm pretty sure i'm going to evo.

i checked and i have like 24 vacation days that i havent used. I'm just gonna look up how close this hotel is to other shit in vegas and see if my other friend is comming with me or not. I think my BF isn't gonna come.

Sweet. Hit me up if you go. I'll be there Wednesday through Monday, as I've never been to Vegas and wanna wander around a bit.

[Mechanica]

Well, like I said its debatable. Its one of those philosophical things that will probally never be agreed on. Your talking about altruism, and technically its not truly irresitable. There are boys in afghanistan being raped so bad that their intestines drag in the dirt after the assault. I know this is happening. And I lose sleep over it. But im not doing anything to solve the problem. The closest thing we do that is instinctual is sleep. It is irresitable. It isnt learned. It never changes, our method of sleeping stays constant our entire lives.

google this shit. its actually an interesting read. im just regurgitating shit ive read anyway.

See, I think we have different ideas on the definition of instinct. Sleep to me isn't an instinct, it's a nautral bodily function, like breathing. If you don't sleep for long enough your body will straight up shut you off. I agree that the abandoned baby is a bad reference, but fight or flight is a really good example. Not trying to discredit you, but I don't see how anyone could argue that fight or flight isn't an instinct. I guess you could use my same arguement that adrenaline is just a bodily function, but I dunno. Whateva.

[BlodiaVulcan5]

I caught Star Trek (better than I expected) recently, and I saw this. I thought the scope would work, but it doesn't.

[Bastion]

fight or flight is a really good example.

I think some circles of thought don't consider it a instinct (in humans) because a choice is still being made. And in cases of non-violent protesters like ghandi then they are choosing to do neither. In animals like a rabbit for example it is an instinct because they are just reacting with flight without any knowledge of how or why.

Sleep; instinct? It's debatable.


DrumlinerJoe; :smile: I'll post more pics soon. Are you going to EVO?

[sh1fty]

Not to be argumentative (because you're a sexy, sexy man) but I don't think even non-violent types can quell 'fight or flight'. It's a specific part of the brain, and somehow I doubt one can just 'turn it off'. To turn it off would mean that a person would never have judgment in times of danger, and therefore would never experience adrenaline, and I REALLY doubt one can just turn off adrenaline in their body.

It's a moot point anyway though. Whether it's an instinct or not really doesn't change that it's there :P

[DrumlinerJoe]

DrumlinerJoe; :smile: I'll post more pics soon. Are you going to EVO?

Awesome.

And nah man I wish. I got laid off a while back and I just started another job again. I could probably get the days off, but I just can't afford to miss 3 days of work you know. I really REALLY wish I could do it, but something always seems to happen right before EVO time and I don't have the money. GTC can tell you that, lol.

Look forward to your pics. :lovin:

[Bastion]

Not to be argumentative

argumentative is a good thing.

im pretty bored tonight. time to go for a smoke and play the lottery. lol. it sounds so blue collar.

DrumlinerJoe; I hear ya. There is so much other stuff going on in the summer too. Why spend all that money when there is shit to do locally. thats why I didnt go last year. If i go it wont be for the gaming at all. Don't care about it at all anymore. I just like plane rides and drinking in places Ive never drank before.

[DrumlinerJoe]

Amen to the drinking, though I would love flex my Rogue in MVC2.

[Mechanica]

I think some circles of thought don't consider it a instinct (in humans) because a choice is still being made. And in cases of non-violent protesters like ghandi then they are choosing to do neither.
An interesting point... but IMO the instinct is still there, ghandi was just an extremely, extremely mentally disciplined man. I agree we are intelligent and have the capability to choose to ignore our instinct, but that does not mean the instinctual feeling is not there.


Not to be argumentative (because you're a sexy, sexy man) but I don't think even non-violent types can quell 'fight or flight'. It's a specific part of the brain, and somehow I doubt one can just 'turn it off'.
With enough discipline you can turn anything in your mind off, including your entire mind. (Just got back from yoga, can you tell? ;D)


To turn it off would mean that a person would never have judgment in times of danger, and therefore would never experience adrenaline, and I REALLY doubt one can just turn off adrenaline in their body.
This isn't true, they still have judgment - they'd have more clearheaded/rational judgment rather than instinctual, snap-judgment. Rather than thinking of it like turning off the adrenaline function, think about it as turning off the way of thinking that leads to that panicked state where adrenaline takes over.

[Bastion]

An interesting point... but IMO the instinct is still there, ghandi was just an extremely, extremely mentally disciplined man. I agree we are intelligent and have the capability to choose to ignore our instinct, but that does not mean the instinctual feeling is not there.

But an instinct is defined as something that cannot be ignored. It is irresistable. Under any circumstance. If it can be ignored then its not a instinct. It's a motivational force. And we can choose to ignore a motivational force.

[Æther]

All I know is that I don't have money for Evo, much less the 400ish for the trip to NYC in August and the 100ish for Georgia in July. I need to make quick cash.

[Mechanica]

But an instinct is defined as something that cannot be ignored. It is irresistable. Under any circumstance. If it can be ignored then its not a instinct. It's a motivational force. And we can choose to ignore a motivational force.
In my dictionary here I've got

instinct n.
The innate aspect of behavior that is unlearned, complex, and normally adaptive.
A powerful motivation or impulse.

I see your argument and I'm not trying to invalidate it... but the fact that we're intelligent enough to ignore this powerful motivation/impulse doesn't really mean that it's not instinct though, does it? It is irresistible in lower species because they are not modernized/intelligent enough to really think about what is going on. I don't see a definition of it being completely irresistible as a characteristic of the word.


All I know is that I don't have money for Evo, much less the 400ish for the trip to NYC in August and the 100ish for Georgia in July. I need to make quick cash.
Sell tricks. :lovin:

[great cow lord]

you heard Mechanica,Æther, work those streets. ;p

[Kromo]

But an instinct is defined as something that cannot be ignored. It is irresistable. Under any circumstance. If it can be ignored then its not a instinct. It's a motivational force. And we can choose to ignore a motivational force.

the question is what can't be ignorned? The desire to eat, to nourish yourself, most people would say is a pretty basic, obvious natural instinct. Yet there are people But there are people who throw this idea out the window and starve themselves to dangerous levels of malnutrition for the sake of body image.

I suppose you could see something like flailing your arms wildly in self defence if you were being mauled by a bear instinct, but you could also call it a lack of self control. If somebody knew how to defend themselves and had the necessary discipline, they wouldn't flail randomly but rather opt for something more effective.

If hunger or fear is just a motivational force to keep us from dying, what isn't? People go to jobs they hate everyday because they know they need to to keep living. I'd hardly call that instinct though.




Oh, and hello SRK gay community.

[sh1fty]

"With enough discipline you can turn anything in your mind off, including your entire mind. (Just got back from yoga, can you tell? ;D)"


Wouldn't you like.. die? If you turned off your mind, that is. I suppose you could turn it off in the thought realm of it, and obviously not the actual functioning.


Anyway, I'm still unconvinced that you can completely turn off fight or flight. Granted I'm no expert, and therefore could be completely wrong, its just I think every human being has something that would induce it. Though I would agree that with a lot of discipline (or whatever floats your boat) you could tone it down to a point where you may never would get the feeling. As in I'm sure if you dropped Ghandi from several thousands miles in the air, he would get an adreniline rush. Granted that would probably never happen, which is why I say that those with such a serious discipline could stay calm in otherwise dangerous situations....

But meh.

[DrumlinerJoe]

Gosh, all this stemming from the quote "we're basically all just animals."

[JustB]

Spider webs count as an instinct?

Why is this a topic? :S

[yah yaahh b*tch!]

Absolutely not. Fight or flight can not be controlled.


If you think youre home alone, and I burst out your closet wearing a Brian Peppers mask with a knife in my hand youre going go have a PEAK in adrenaline.

You are within seconds going to decide to:

1-break your neck busting through your bedroom door, out the window or flying into the bathroom
2-put up your fists and get ready to throw down


Theres no way youre going to look up, see me, then repress those feelings of excitement and sit there unmoved. No way possible.

[Mechanica]

Wouldn't you like.. die?
lol... there's a difference betwen your mind and your brain.

I believe that with enough meditation, vacation from the societal world, and time in general, you could train yourself to be in a state of mind where nothing triggers a surprise or adrenaline rush. I believe you'd be expecting nothing and anything at the same time. Sounds like hippie mumbo jumbo I'm sure, but I could imagine an enlightened sage who has reached a state of constant samadhi could stifle any reaction really.

Yes, if someone busts out of MY closet with a knife, I will have quite a startle. I don't think I am a very good reference on which to base the possibilities of the human mind.

Anyway, this is too deep for this topic now, let's talk about hairy chests. Aw yeah.

[sh1fty]

Gosh, all this stemming from the quote "we're basically all just animals."


At least we're keeping it civil! Which as all of you know is waaaaayyyy not the norm here at SRK. I hate that Ad Hominem argument bull.


And LOL at yah's post. That's awesome. I think I'd have a stroke.

[Kromo]

Absolutely not. Fight or flight can not be controlled.


If you think youre home alone, and I burst out your closet wearing a Brian Peppers mask with a knife in my hand youre going go have a PEAK in adrenaline.

You are within seconds going to decide to:

1-break your neck busting through your bedroom door, out the window or flying into the bathroom
2-put up your fists and get ready to throw down


Theres no way youre going to look up, see me, then repress those feelings of excitement and sit there unmoved. No way possible.

Well instead of your average person, what if it was a navy seal or something? There are people who train to deal with dangerous, unpredictable situations and make split second life or death decisions. I suppose it is still fight or flight response, but they have a better idea of their own abilities, and more capable of assessing a threat because of training/experience, which would suggest a more rational thought process than just "gut instinct".

Do you think fear can be mastered? I hope so.

[yah yaahh b*tch!]

Fear and adrenaline are two different things. Thats like saying you can stop yourself from releasing growth hormone or saliva. You can not control your bodys release of adrenaline. If something triggers excitement then you are going to release adrenaline, if its a fight or flight situation then you are goign to act accordingly. If youre driving down the street and your breaks go out, youre going to shit on yourself, theres no amount of mental jumping jacks that you can do to circle around that.


My uncle was in the gulf war, and i know he killed a lot of men, women, and children but his ass still gets the piss scared out him like anyone else.




You guys have been watching too many kung fu movies.

[Mechanica]

All I'm saying is the human mind is capable of being in a place where you don't get surprised to the point of releasing adrenaline. All the examples being brought up are things that would happen to you or I, driving, coming home with someone in the closet, etc. and are all irrelevant to the kind of person I'm talking about. But I digress, my points are being overlooked and I'm over it. New subject.

I guess I might be going to my first pride fest/march this year, my friends wanna drag me along. So I'll probably drag Wayne along. Not really my bag, but I figure there'll be enough shirtless hairy guys to keep me entertained. Oh and dikes on bikes is always funny.

[BeaTs*]

i agree with fight or flight not necessarily being an instinct. depending on the situation, it could just be learned.

inexperienced or young humans (even animals) don't activate fight or flight even when it's right in front of them. even young animals (like that video of a lizard attempting to, and even getting the baby chick in it's mouth. the chick eventually escapes, but still stays right there not really knowing what's up)

I was just reading this too, and found some stuff related to F or F in it, so thought may as well post: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1053663-1,00.html

as mentioned, certain protesters can sorta turn those reactions off.

like mentioned in the article, some (or most) people tend to NOT believe. if I was in a jump out of closet with mask situation, I may react and jump quickly (actually, I highly believe I would freeze, and just try to think what was going on and come to the conclusion it's a trick, or die before I come to that), but probably not believe it's really a threat and think it's a friend or family member playing a trick...

blah blah.

[Pablo_the_Mex]

Getting into some real deep shit, like the article referenced by Beatz, does make people do some weird things. Like when people catch on fire and they run, completely forgetting about dropping down and rolling. Almost anything can be learned.

[BeaTs*]

i was reading up on that terrible flight france disaster on yahoo, and came across a few interesting disaster articles.

seems more often than not, there is no fight or flight, but rather people freezing, thinking, trying to comprehend, etc.

even of the fewer people that flee, it's always a thought out process, they wait a bit, but because they have the knowledge and experience, they act quicker (or actually act at all), and smarter. definitely doesn't seem like an "instinct"

we get the chemical reaction, but our human brain tends to funk up any sort of instinctual fight or flight. and only those with experience can use their brains to react quickly

here are the other 2 articles I haven't read yet

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1810315,00.html

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,925257,00.html

[Æther]

... How did we stem all this from the need/want of sex? :rofl:

Don't mind me though. I got a headache goin on.

[Kromo]

Fear and adrenaline are two different things. Thats like saying you can stop yourself from releasing growth hormone or saliva. You can not control your bodys release of adrenaline. If something triggers excitement then you are going to release adrenaline, if its a fight or flight situation then you are goign to act accordingly. If youre driving down the street and your breaks go out, youre going to shit on yourself, theres no amount of mental jumping jacks that you can do to circle around that.


Well, what if you were "slow"? or high? you don't notice the breaks go out. No fear. No adrenaline. I guess excitement is relative.
I mean, people have panic attacks over basically nothing. But apparently they have drugs for that. I'm not sure if that counts as controlling your body's release of adrenaline.

(all of this is for the sake of argument, I personally believe people have no free will, just because I think I'm a badass nihilist DJ, but I won't go there)

[sh1fty]

just because I think I'm a badass nihilist DJ, but I won't go there)


rofl

[Bastion]

(all of this is for the sake of argument, I personally believe people have no free will, just because I think I'm a badass nihilist DJ, but I won't go there)

Free will is another one of those things that depends on how you define it. My whole point about instincts was that in different circles there are different definitions of instinct. Some beleive in certain criteria and hold them strictly. Some are lax and think everything is a instinct. Some have like varying degrees of instinct and so on and so forth. I subscribe to the strict definition because I like feeling responsible for myself and not having a cop out for doing stupid shit. No matter what mistakes I make I won't ever say, "well, its because its my instinct to (insert here), I am an animal after all."

"While we're on the subject can we change the subject?" - MM

An airport near me is having a sale on flights to ireland for $76 both ways. WTF? lol. I cant even get a cab ride to Toronto for that. Oh yeah, and the hair on my chest is like a 1.5 inchs long. Ever since I turned 25 it's really took off.

[The Green Trench Coat]

okay can I just see a show of hands Who's going to EVO?

[Yuna]

okay can I just see a show of hands Who's going to EVO?

\m/_

[Æther]

You guys can play Strip Fighter at Evo with a cam while I'm stuck here, right?



















Azagtoth: I'll give you my cam if you record them naked. :wgrin:

[eddymasta]

You guys can play Strip Fighter at Evo with a cam while I'm stuck here, right?











Azagtoth: I'll give you my cam if you record them naked. :wgrin:


I could use the url to the stream if that goes down :looney:

[DrumlinerJoe]

Dang, y'all are turning evo into something nasty now. Get it fellas!

[Mechanica]

... How did we stem all this from the need/want of sex? :rofl:


bastion was all instinct doesn't exist

and i was all aw hell naw *z snap*




I'm going to evo! We're having some serious drama in the NW about how to qualify for our 5v5 team. It's funny because everyone seems to want a shot, everyone's coming up with ridiculous ideas because the round robin format would take forever with 27 people, and well, I'm pretty sure I already know the entire team, or at least 4/5 of it. I still want to try, though. Beefin up my Fuerte.

[sh1fty]

Mech! Add me on XBL :*( I wansta play.

And anyone else here that wants to use me as their punching bag.

[Azagtoth]

Azagtoth: I'll give you my cam if you record them naked. :wgrin:

I'd be 100% down if I was able to go. :(

[Mechanica]

Mech! Add me on XBL :*( I wansta play.

And anyone else here that wants to use me as their punching bag.

Add me first, I'm too lazy to add other people - too busy TRAINING :karate:

I'll play some strip fighter but consider me out once I'm down to my underwear

[BlodiaVulcan5]

I'll play some strip fighter but consider me out once I'm down to my underwear

It's all or nothing if you're going to play Strip Fighter. Can't puss out like that. Or can't dick out like that. Whatever.

The current rules are:

Everyone Vs. Bastion with one hand tied behind his back.

Everyone wins!


okay can I just see a show of hands Who's going to EVO?

I'm going to Evo.

[Æther]

Sent you a request sh1fty.

I'd be 100% down if I was able to go. :(
*cue Price is Right losing theme* :(

Edit: If anyone wants some games today PM me. I'm off today just playing random games.

[sh1fty]

Everyone Vs. Bastion with one hand tied behind his back.




Ohhh. Bondage. Now we're talking.


Added you mech and aether.

[iwst99]

FUck man, I want to go to this shit. I don't even want to play anything just hang out with y'all. Easy drive too...

When's Evo again?

[angryliberal]

FUck man, I want to go to this shit. I don't even want to play anything just hang out with y'all. Easy drive too...

When's Evo again?

I feel the same way...but there' no way I can do it with the enw house...

[Zugi]

I want to go to Evo but I'm going to have to see if i can afford it.

[iwst99]

I feel the same way...but there' no way I can do it with the enw house...

We can room together and see if we can room with n e else.

Zugi you and me. :D

[iwst99]

Nevermind, I really shouldn't. Stupid money issues.

[angryliberal]

Nevermind, I really shouldn't. Stupid money issues.

Yeah, that's how I feel...I mentioned it to my wife and she laughed at me while pointing at the house...she said if it wasn't July, we could do it...but we'll be BROKE for the month of July...that's when our first mortgage payment is due...

I miss the SoCal Evo regionals...

[DrumlinerJoe]

Dang, they might promote me to supervising lifeguard at the pool this summer. If EVO were in August I'd probably be able to make it.

[iwst99]

Dang, they might promote me to supervising lifeguard at the pool this summer. If EVO were in August I'd probably be able to make it.

Mmmm, guys in speedos.

[DrumlinerJoe]

lol, the job is SO not as sexy as it sounds. Mostly involves babysitting children all day for lazy parents.

[Azagtoth]

/\--------I hope you're better with kids than I am haha. Ugh.


*cue Price is Right losing theme* :(

Tell me about it. I've been saying "yeah I'll go this year" for years lol.

BTW, even though I'm only playing SF4 on PS3 (Bastion: now that I'm actually playing again, we should get some games in :)), you guys should add me on 360 for other stuffs. HDR perhaps?

[iwst99]

/\--------I hope you're better with kids than I am haha. Ugh.



Tell me about it. I've been saying "yeah I'll go this year" for years lol.

BTW, even though I'm only playing SF4 on PS3 (Bastion: now that I'm actually playing again, we should get some games in :)), you guys should add me on 360 for other stuffs. HDR perhaps?

With Webcams for Webcam strip SF4.

[DrumlinerJoe]

I'm terrible with kids, so that kind of makes me a good lifeguard.

[g3nshir0_]

If you seem to have a lot more guy admirers than females...what should you do, as a heterosexual man? I don't mind the passing comments and I'll gladly speak to anybody on a casual level regardless of sexuality, it's just that I'm not the same guy I was when I was 18, it's almost as if I'm inviting them - but how?

I'm not upset or anything, just wondering what you guys think it is

[iwst99]

If you seem to have a lot more guy admirers than females...what should you do, as a heterosexual man? I don't mind the passing comments and I'll gladly speak to anybody on a casual level regardless of sexuality, it's just that I'm not the same guy I was when I was 18, it's almost as if I'm inviting them - but how?

I'm not upset or anything, just wondering what you guys think it is

You do nothing, I don't see how this is an issue. Are they pestering you? Molesting you? If not, get over it. D:

[ramberk]

If you seem to have a lot more guy admirers than females...what should you do, as a heterosexual man? I don't mind the passing comments and I'll gladly speak to anybody on a casual level regardless of sexuality, it's just that I'm not the same guy I was when I was 18, it's almost as if I'm inviting them - but how?

I'm not upset or anything, just wondering what you guys think it is

You could always respond by saying, "Ewww gross! I'm not gay."

Or you could just be polite.

In the future, please be less irresistible.

[Pablo_the_Mex]

If you seem to have a lot more guy admirers than females...what should you do, as a heterosexual man? I don't mind the passing comments and I'll gladly speak to anybody on a casual level regardless of sexuality, it's just that I'm not the same guy I was when I was 18, it's almost as if I'm inviting them - but how?

I'm not upset or anything, just wondering what you guys think it is

Well, you do look sort of homo. That is just going by that one youtube vid you posted.

I live in the gayest part of town. Anyone is free to view me like a piece of meat, I just wish more women would do it as opposed to dudes.

[DrumlinerJoe]

Yeah most straight guys get over it once they've actually gotten to know a few gay dudes. Hence the stupidity in the Premium Show Yourself thread.

[iwst99]

Birthday Shh! Birthday Shh!

It's the best day of the year girl.

Birthday Shh! Birthday Shh!

I love censored version songs.

[sh1fty]

Speaking of jobs, I start mine on monday. Mowing all day in the Oklahoma heat T_T I'm gonna have one hell of a farmers tan..


Edit: In unrelated news, Aether tore me a new ass hole on SF4

[Æther]

Azag: I got HDR if you want in on some games today. Just send me a PM.

Sh1fty: Do they let you work without your shirt on? Reminds me of the time my BF had an idea for an all gay bear moving service. Then we'll have one straight guy in there who won't know. And just for kicks we'll have an ultra fem secretary. It's gonna be awesome...


...So GTC...:wgrin:

Edit: GG to sh1fty back. I know I was a douche with my over use of throws. I should, like, learn people's moves besides Honda. :nono:

[sh1fty]

Azag: I got HDR if you want in on some games today. Just send me a PM.

Sh1fty: Do they let you work without your shirt on? Reminds me of the time my BF had an idea for an all gay bear moving service. Then we'll have one straight guy in there who won't know. And just for kicks we'll have an ultra fem secretary. It's gonna be awesome...


...So GTC...:wgrin:

Edit: GG to sh1fty back. I know I was a douche with my over use of throws. I should, like, learn people's moves besides Honda. :nono:

Dude. I would love to hire an all bear moving service. I'd have them come over and move something pretty much daily :D.

Yeah, I can work without my shirt on, but I think I'd get some kind of cancer it's so hot here..

Naw, I appreciated how much you were throwing. It helped me learn to tech them haha. Yeah same here. I only feel semi-confident with shoto's, cammy, and dictator lol

[Æther]

Dude. I would love to hire an all bear moving service. I'd have them come over and move something pretty much daily :D.
See what I mean? Business sells itself. :D

[sh1fty]

See what I mean? Business sells itself. :D

Does an orgy come included?

[Mechanica]

^hey, sorry I didn't reply or anything earlier on sf4. training for an evo qualifier thing we've got going on for the 5v5.

[Azagtoth]

I love censored version songs.

Wait till you see my OH!


Azag: I got HDR if you want in on some games today. Just send me a PM.

Once I get my 360 back, lets do this. I'll be playing on pad though so don't expect mad skills lol.

[Æther]

Cool. I'm a pad user.

Sh1fty, you must look but musn't touch. Well except the straight one. That would be hilarious. :nono:

[JustB]

Moving in to my first apartment in 12 days.

[DrumlinerJoe]

Chillin at the pool today.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l301/joetx/Image003-1.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l301/joetx/Image001-1.jpg

[DrumlinerJoe]

Just randomly, our thread has the 10th most highest postings on SRK GD. Yes I'm bored. :D

[ShinAkumax]

Birthday Shh! Birthday Shh!

It's the best day of the year girl.

Birthday Shh! Birthday Shh!

I love censored version songs.


You look fat.


Just randomly, our thread has the 10th most highest postings on SRK GD. Yes I'm bored. :D

Broads like to talk. You look a lot better now that you are rocking a more masculine look. I hate it when I see guys with super masculine faces rocking femenine haircuts or hair. It looks awful, people should enhance their looks not try to change them completely.

NOTE: On gay guys. If it's a handsome man I get a kick out of it. If it's an old man, I get sick to my stomach because of what I can read in his eyes. Now that I'm experimenting with eye contact I think I'm starting to cath what I would the large subtle mayority as oppose to the flamming minority. This is all happening on the normal street scene.

They guys that TOTALLY piss me off are the asian gay guys at yoga because they look at me as if I'm not good enough for them cause I ain't white. I always feel like judo slamming them against the floor and screaming at their face " You not all that motherfucker"... this is what I think during warrior pose anyways

I realize this has nothing to do with sexuality since I also feel like slapping attractive women that think a little too much of themselves. Yes you are hot, not I don't want to fuck you because you are an insuferrable cunt.

[BlodiaVulcan5]

I made the 11 o clock local News and the following morning news, too. :O

Toward the end of the video: http://www.ksbw.com/news/19668372/detail.html

Magna Cum Laude. Woooo.

[Azagtoth]

Moving in to my first apartment in 12 days.

Congrats. You have my deepest envy. :(


Chillin at the pool today.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l301/joetx/Image003-1.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l301/joetx/Image001-1.jpg

Nice, as always. Out of curiosity, what's your nationality?

[Bastion]

Went and got drunk with my construction friends. It's always fun watching straight guys get the homo out of their systems. The entire night was booze and dry humping. good times. Then afterwards my best bud, the one that knows all about me, spent 5 minutes justifing everything. actually, i cant say its always fun...i find myself getting jealous a little bit.

-nice pictures joe

[DrumlinerJoe]

Congrats. You have my deepest envy. :(



Nice, as always. Out of curiosity, what's your nationality?

Mexican.

[DrumlinerJoe]

Went and got drunk with my construction friends. It's always fun watching straight guys get the homo out of their systems. The entire night was booze and dry humping. good times. Then afterwards my best bud, the one that knows all about me, spent 5 minutes justifing everything. actually, i cant say its always fun...i find myself getting jealous a little bit.

-nice pictures joe

Thanks buddy. lol, it happens with straight guys like that man. Kind of weird, but eh, what are you gonna do.

[great cow lord]

I made the 11 o clock local News and the following morning news, too. :O

Toward the end of the video: http://www.ksbw.com/news/19668372/detail.html

Magna Cum Laude. Woooo.

lol, you had that kool aid smile going on. congrats btw~

[DrumlinerJoe]

Random hilarity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPTUpn9ait8

[The Green Trench Coat]

With Webcams for Webcam strip SF4.

I'm totally down for this.


If you seem to have a lot more guy admirers than females...what should you do, as a heterosexual man? I don't mind the passing comments and I'll gladly speak to anybody on a casual level regardless of sexuality, it's just that I'm not the same guy I was when I was 18, it's almost as if I'm inviting them - but how?

I'm not upset or anything, just wondering what you guys think it is

You look in the mirror and say "damn i'm a sexy bitch" and keep it moving.


Well, you do look sort of homo. That is just going by that one youtube vid you posted.

I live in the gayest part of town. Anyone is free to view me like a piece of meat, I just wish more women would do it as opposed to dudes.

I think you are pretty hot. I also think you should show me more pics of you.. with less clothes on.

And if we ever meet in person you may want to invest in several chastity belts and and some sort of acme anti GTC feild cause i'd love to see with my hands.


Speaking of jobs, I start mine on monday. Mowing all day in the Oklahoma heat T_T I'm gonna have one hell of a farmers tan..


Edit: In unrelated news, Aether tore me a new ass hole on SF4
mm..
< start farmboyfantasy>

also .. I wanna play. :sad:

Azag: I got HDR if you want in on some games today. Just send me a PM.

Sh1fty: Do they let you work without your shirt on? Reminds me of the time my BF had an idea for an all gay bear moving service. Then we'll have one straight guy in there who won't know. And just for kicks we'll have an ultra fem secretary. It's gonna be awesome...


...So GTC...:wgrin:

Edit: GG to sh1fty back. I know I was a douche with my over use of throws. I should, like, learn people's moves besides Honda. :nono:

wait .. would i be the super fem secretary?


also... i wanna play..:shy:



Once I get my 360 back, lets do this. I'll be playing on pad though so don't expect mad skills lol.

i wanna play!!:mad:

[DrumlinerJoe]

Hi my name is Joe, I'll be saving your life today.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l301/joetx/DSC01860.jpg

[Pablo_the_Mex]

I think you are pretty hot. I also think you should show me more pics of you.. with less clothes on.

And if we ever meet in person you may want to invest in several chastity belts and and some sort of acme anti GTC feild cause i'd love to see with my hands.



Unfortunately for you, t-shirts are usually the name of the game. Feel free to set any of my SRK album pics as your desktop or screen saver. If I ever run into you, I will be sure to be wearing my running shoes.

[Mechanica]

Oh shit son, Pablo's gonna get raped by gtc at evo. Watch out!

[Mechanica]

Wait so I know this already got asked, but let's get that evo headcount going again. What are you guys entering, those of you going?

SF4 and HDremix for me right now. Was thinking about 3s since I used to like it and love team tournaments but playing it messes me up in SF4 so I don't think I will. Way too rusty at guilty gear to play in the tourney, too.

Can we plz hang out? Someone get me drunk, even though I can't go into bars. K?

[yah yaahh b*tch!]

If you seem to have a lot more guy admirers than females...what should you do, as a heterosexual man? I don't mind the passing comments and I'll gladly speak to anybody on a casual level regardless of sexuality, it's just that I'm not the same guy I was when I was 18, it's almost as if I'm inviting them - but how?

I'm not upset or anything, just wondering what you guys think it is

If you get hit on by more men than women chances are you look gay. But thats not always the case.


I used to feel like that a bit, only I get hit on my both sexes equally. Ive began to grow into my bisexuality within the past few months since being "turned out."


I still feel a bit dirty about the whole bit, tho.

[bear]

Wait so I know this already got asked, but let's get that evo headcount going again. What are you guys entering, those of you going?

SF4 and HDremix for me right now. Was thinking about 3s since I used to like it and love team tournaments but playing it messes me up in SF4 so I don't think I will. Way too rusty at guilty gear to play in the tourney, too.

Can we plz hang out? Someone get me drunk, even though I can't go into bars. K?

I'll be there. I'm entering 3s and 4. I'm not real into 4, to be honest, but since I'm already there I might as well enter. I'm on the fence about HDR. I like to play ST, but I'm pretty rusty now. I might just jump on that one as well, though.

And you can borrow my flask.

[Dhalsimowns]

Last year a roommate said " (me), I like you..." while driving down the freeway.

I said, "...ya..."

10 months with him in the apartment and I never knew. Another friend of mine said he had a gay friend come out to him, saying he had liked him for awhile. I realized another buddy I knew in a school club was gay for me too. It made things really awkward.

Do gay guys ever have issues or problems liking straight guys?

[The Green Trench Coat]

Do gay guys ever have issues or problems liking straight guys?

only if the straight guys dont' put out.

Alot of times with newbies (or younger gay people) the desire for a boyfriend/girlfriend makes things awkward.. As in they fall in love in their head and expect real life to follow suit.

Personally I don't care if you are gay or straight.. we can figure all of that out after you are done blowing me.

[Yuna]

Personally I don't care if you are gay or straight.. we can figure all of that out after you are done blowing me.

This is why I love you, daddy bear.
(no hetero)

[Æther]

GTC: Haha. Your sig came full circle with a convo I had today. Word for word. :rofl:

Also if you wanna play today just PM me. Just gonna chill/draw today.

[Mechanica]

GTC: Haha. Your sig came full circle with a convo I had today. Word for word. :rofl:.
details



Do gay guys ever have issues or problems liking straight guys?

GTC pretty much hit the nail on the head. Us young'ns are pretty dumb, just crush his dreams. Oh that's nice, I'm not gay. Sorry. No point in making it awkward, but I understand if you can't help it.


And you can borrow my flask.
<3

[The Green Trench Coat]

This is why I love you, daddy bear.
(no hetero)
hehe *bearhugs*

GTC: Haha. Your sig came full circle with a convo I had today. Word for word. :rofl:

Also if you wanna play today just PM me. Just gonna chill/draw today.

Yeah I wanna plaY!!!! i'm online now i'll take any challengers in sf4 or hdr

[The Green Trench Coat]

details



GTC pretty much hit the nail on the head. Us young'ns are pretty dumb, just crush his dreams. Oh that's nice, I'm not gay. Sorry. No point in making it awkward, but I understand if you can't help it.


<3

it should be noted that i've seen that same problem happen with people way older than me also. and definitely not all youngn's are gaytarded.

[Yuna]

hehe *bearhugs*

You still owe me like twenty-seven bearhugs, you know. It was cool to see you at Final Round, but maybe the next time we meet, we can get in some 3rd Strike?

[Mechanica]

it should be noted that i've seen that same problem happen with people way older than me also. and definitely not all youngn's are gaytarded.

Yeah, I guess I shouldn't generalize... I feel like more young gay guys have these issues than older ones, but there's always those token older gay guys who act worse than the 13 year old ones.

[sh1fty]

I'll add you GTC and we can play :D

I'd agree I have more issues than the older gay guys. Which is fine, I have less experience, no prob in admitting it. Plus those older bears are always the smokin' hot ones...

[Mechanica]

no prob in admitting it.

Word - I don't mean to sound like I'm excluding myself either. I hate myself as much as I hate all us other young people. :bgrin: I can't wait to be old and have geriatric profanity disorder and a million cats.

[Turbovec]

I can't wait to be old and have geriatric profanity disorder and a million cats.

That's a lotta pussy for one gay guy :o

[BlodiaVulcan5]

Wait so I know this already got asked, but let's get that evo headcount going again. What are you guys entering, those of you going?

Can we plz hang out? Someone get me drunk, even though I can't go into bars. K?

I'm going to Evo. I'll be doing mostly one of two things: 1) Following GTC and trying to get him to smile a toothy grin for me. He is holding out on some pearlies. 2) Getting lost like a tourist.

I registered without entering anything. My GGAC game isn't tourney worthy. This was back in March before Allisbrawl.com partnered up Evo. If they were listed in the beginning, then i would have entered in Brawl. But I don't want to reregister, so i'll strictly be a spectator for the major tournies. I'll be bringing my wavebird just in case someone brings their Wii along in one of the rooms.

Speaking of, any of ya'll going to set up a room for all of us to hang? Consoles, beer, lube, etc. We need a place for Strip Fighter, damnit.


In other homoseshual news, my company just hired a beefy, blonde, bearded guy. Therefore, work just got little less boring! Do elevator eyes count as Sexual harassment? Only if i get caught, right?

[bear]

Shit, speaking of which. Anyone wanna partner with me in Third Strike?

I'm already registered and I'm a decent player (well, I could hold my own in the arcades around Tokyo, for whatever that's worth). I main Urien, but can solidly play a handful of others (Elena and Alex are next in line). I a have no plans of getting terribly far, so no pressure. But it'd be good to find a partner to at least be able to enter.

We can be called "Team Discovery Channel."

[Fennec]

Hello thread of the same 5-6 people posting. :o

[DrumlinerJoe]

Gah! I can't belive it! Only the 4th day of lifeguarding and I'm at home for heat exhaustion. I've NEVER had to miss for anything like that before. Blah. I guess it's a sign of being 30 that I have to take it easier than before.

[sh1fty]

ah....





butt sex.

[iwst99]

Hello thread of the same 5-6 people posting. :o

Hello guy that only posts in the Canada threads because he has nothing useful to add to any other parts of the world :o

[Mechanica]

ah....





butt sex.

Do want.

Sure wish I got laid more. :bluu: What've I gotten myself into? :lol:

[iwst99]

^^

What u talking bout willis?

[Fennec]

Hello guy that only posts in the Canada threads because he has nothing useful to add to any other parts of the world :o

Yah I'm just bored mostly but I wouldn't say that I don't have anything useful to offer.

[iwst99]

Yah I'm just bored mostly but I wouldn't say that I don't have anything useful to offer.

Great post.

[Fennec]

Great post.

Well it looks like you topped mine.

Har har

[iwst99]

Well it looks like you topped mine.

Har har

I wasn't being facetious.

[Fennec]

Lets continue to talk about nothing, that sounds like fun.

[bear]

Lets continue to talk about nothing, that sounds like fun.

I think you just described the internet.

[iwst99]

Y'all check out my cockstar review if you haven't:

www.iwst99.com

[Mechanica]

Your guy is super cute. :D

[sh1fty]

Mech why are you too busy to give me my spanking on SF4 :(

[Mechanica]

I think you just described the internet.

:rofl:


Mech why are you too busy to give me my spanking on SF4 :(

man sf4 online has me raged right now

but actually I forgot who you were hahah

next time I can stomach the online sf4 i'll try to remember to play ya :tup: sry bb

[BlodiaVulcan5]

Shit, speaking of which. Anyone wanna partner with me in Third Strike?

I'm already registered and I'm a decent player (well, I could hold my own in the arcades around Tokyo, for whatever that's worth). I main Urien, but can solidly play a handful of others (Elena and Alex are next in line). I a have no plans of getting terribly far, so no pressure. But it'd be good to find a partner to at least be able to enter.

We can be called "Team Discovery Channel."

I would have if you mentioned it before hand. Though, more than likely i'll get peaced out in the first match, so you'd be dragging me along. Oh well, i'll be be your mini cheering/heckling section.

"BEAR, FUCK THAT BITCH UP. DON'T EVEN NEED TO TAUNT. WOOOOOO. DAYMN BOY, I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU JUST ATE THAT REFLECTOR, U SO NUB. YOU GOIN' GET RAPED! (bear corner juggles him) OOH, SHOULDER, OOOH, SHOULDER, OOOH, SHOULDER, EX SHOULDER, IT'S OVAH, BAYBEE. BEAR FOR PRESIDENT. "

[BlodiaVulcan5]

Y'all check out my cockstar review if you haven't:

www.iwst99.com

Why jaime, what big ears you have! ( i haven't noticed before... )

[iwst99]

Yeah, it runs in my mom's side of the family.

[BlodiaVulcan5]

You get HD satellite channels on those things? I kid I kid.

[iwst99]

You got jokes playa?

JK, I've heard it all, so you can knock yourself out.

They match my cock, so that's all that matters. :-)

[BlodiaVulcan5]

You sure you heard them all?

:)

[iwst99]

Yes.

[BlodiaVulcan5]

So, let's discuss The "Butch Factor,"

I'm thinking about going up to SF, 2 weekends from now, to see this filmumentary called "The Butch Factor" at the International Frameline 33: SF LGBT Film Festival.
Trailer: http://www.thebutchfactor.com/Media/Butch%20Open%20Web-H.264%20800Kbps.mov
Film Info: http://www.frameline.org/festival/film/detail.aspx?id=1737&fid=45


Frequently, Hines gets his subjects to reflect revealingly on what made them the type of man they are today. The director also presents recent changes in cultural norms of masculinity, such as the “bromance” and the metrosexual, while excavating the past for images of the mustachioed “clone” and stereotypical queen. On the expert level, a knowledgeable cross-section of teachers, writers, and psychologists discuss their own views of gay culture and masculinity. Amongst all these different men and their corresponding “butch factors,” the salient point of Hines’ clever and fast-paced film is that, for gay men, acknowledging your homosexuality is just one of the steps along the path of discovering exactly what kind of man you are. — ROD ARMSTRONG




How "Butch" do you think you are? what OGTs (obvious gay traits) do you have?

[Fennec]

So, let's discuss The "Butch Factor,"

I'm thinking about going up to SF, 2 weekends from now, to see this filmumentary called "The Butch Factor" at the International Frameline 33: SF LGBT Film Festival.
Trailer: http://www.thebutchfactor.com/Media/Butch%20Open%20Web-H.264%20800Kbps.mov
Film Info: http://www.frameline.org/festival/film/detail.aspx?id=1737&fid=45






How "Butch" do you think you are? what OGTs (obvious gay traits) do you have?

Seems like a fairly interesting film.

I don't like to play the label game. While I do have a preference for guys it does not define who I am. I don't think I look act or sound gay. I don't fit any of the glaringly obvious stereotypes. I think if anything I'm probably more genuine, sensitive and caring then your typical heterosexual. I'm more passionate and intense. I'm clean and tidy and I care about my appearance but not nearly to the same degree as most gay people do. I suppose I can't really call any of this stuff obvious but that's the best I can come up with right now.

I don't feel that I fit in with straight or gay people, but I typically have far more in common with heterosexuals then I do with homosexuals.

Since I more or less just outed myself perhaps someone from the BC scene will stumble across my post and comment on my faggotry!

[Azagtoth]

How "Butch" do you think you are? what OGTs (obvious gay traits) do you have?

I think the closest I have to an OGT is occasionally ironing my hair. Outside of that, nothing comes to mind.

[iwst99]

I think the closest I have to an OGT is occasionally ironing my hair. Outside of that, nothing comes to mind.

You suck cock too. That's pretty gay dude.

[BlodiaVulcan5]

I think the closest I have to an OGT is occasionally ironing my hair. Outside of that, nothing comes to mind.

I thought that was a common practice amongst black metal bands? I know the Norwegian black metal bands do that. So i don't think that's a OGT.

Fennec: Oh, i thought you just browsed for the heck of it. In any case, It's one less person to worry about it. I've grown tired of putting masculinity on a pedestal and guarding things that i do/act/say, so I've come to a point where it's who i am and if someone I know in real life finds out, it won't change things. If someone has problem with it, that's not on me. Oh and, welcome. Also, pics? (it's encouraged, haha)

My OGTs? Hmm. Well, I like to cook. No wait, most chefs are men. I encourage emotion and know a thing or two about colors. No wait, that's because i'm an artist by trade. I'm not much of a sports fan. No wait, that's not uncommon. Well, damn. Most of Madonna's work is dance-music-oriented, and I listen to electronica, does that count?

The only thing i can think of is that i enjoy watching Project Runway, amongst other things on the Bravo Network (go Top Chef!). Then again, I just watch for the creativity rather than the fashion factor.

[Æther]

My OGT would probably be when I call my cats ("OMG BABYGURL! HERE PUSSSY PUSSY PUSSY!")

[Mechanica]

How "Butch" do you think you are? what OGTs (obvious gay traits) do you have?

I complain when other people try to match clothes and do a horrible job. If you don't care and don't try, that's all good. When you try to 'match' by wearing four different shades of red, ugh. :nono:

My t-shirts hung up in my closet are ordered by color - it's like a giant rainbow in my closet. :bgrin:

I'm pretty clean? I'm into having things tidy. Still working on keeping them tidy.

That's all I can think of, I'm organized and into matching clothes. Other than, you know, liking men's bottoms and all that.

Oh, I guess the hair dyeing thing. I'm p good with hair. I cut my own hair but I'm not exactly good at it, just patient.

On the whole though, everyone that doesn't know me that finds out is totally taken aback by the fact that I'm gay. It annoys me, I actually understand why guys adopt lisps.

[Fennec]

I thought that was a common practice amongst black metal bands? I know the Norwegian black metal bands do that. So i don't think that's a OGT.

Fennec: Oh, i thought you just browsed for the heck of it. In any case, It's one less person to worry about it. I've grown tired of putting masculinity on a pedestal and guarding things that i do/act/say, so I've come to a point where it's who i am and if someone I know in real life finds out, it won't change things. If someone has problem with it, that's not on me. Oh and, welcome. Also, pics? (it's encouraged, haha)



If you have seen Heroes - Sylar (Zach Quinto)
That's pretty much what I look like.

[BlodiaVulcan5]

If you have seen Heroes - Sylar (Zach Quinto)
That's pretty much what I look like.

A psychopath?

[Yuna]

I look like a much, much younger Uma Thurman.











...nah, but seriously, the only woman that looks like me is my mother. My mother is beautiful(no incest...mo), so I'm happy.

[ShinAkumax]

I should tell you all my ladyboy story.

[Fennec]

A psychopath?

Yes
I even sound like/talk like him apparently.

[Azagtoth]

You suck cock too. That's pretty gay dude.

Isn't that a given? :{P


I thought that was a common practice amongst black metal bands? I know the Norwegian black metal bands do that. So i don't think that's a OGT.

I always thought the scandinavians didn't have to iron their hair because they have natural dead-straight viking locks in their blood.

Fucking hispanic genes. :(


The only thing i can think of is that i enjoy watching Project Runway, amongst other things on the Bravo Network (go Top Chef!). Then again, I just watch for the creativity rather than the fashion factor.

I watch those shows too but I don't think I enjoy them nearly as much without the eye candy.

http://chubarama.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/graham.jpg

-faint-

[DrumlinerJoe]

Fucking hispanic genes. :(

-faint-

Someone here have a problem with my genes? :nunchuck:

[Azagtoth]

Someone here have a problem with my genes? :nunchuck:

If you had hair my length you'd feel it too. :(

[BlodiaVulcan5]

Yes
I even sound like/talk like him apparently.

A gay Sylar. Save the quarterback, save the world.



I watch those shows too but I don't think I enjoy them nearly as much without the eye candy.

http://chubarama.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/graham.jpg

-faint-
I challenge you. From Season 5: [1] (http://www.bravotv.com/media/images/persons/contestant_keith.png) [2] (http://www.squarehippies.com/images/others/keith_bryce/3/keith_bryce16.jpg). Too bad he left really early.

[Azagtoth]

I challenge you. From Season 5: [1] (http://www.bravotv.com/media/images/persons/contestant_keith.png) [2] (http://www.squarehippies.com/images/others/keith_bryce/3/keith_bryce16.jpg). Too bad he left really early.

Second link doesn't work, but yeah. Too thin for me. :{P

[Fennec]

Here's me.

http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv65/FennecTheFox/Me.jpg

[DrumlinerJoe]

Ugh, I think something is really wrong with me guys. I had heat exhaustion on Thursday, but I still am feeling it today. I shouldn't be having symptoms for this long so it might be indicative of something more serious.

Only thing that sucks is that I have no insurance. There's an organization that can help though, so I'm gonna go see them tomorrow. Even though I'd rather go today.

Blah.

[LightningStorm]

Here's me.

http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv65/FennecTheFox/Me.jpg

Holy shit you do look like Sylar!

Don't eat my brians and live long and prosper. :wgrin:

[BlodiaVulcan5]

Second link doesn't work, but yeah. Too thin for me. :{P

Is that suppose to be a mustached smiley?


Here's me.

http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv65/FennecTheFox/Me.jpg

You're right, you do look like a psychopath. On the real, you're Sylar lite. Good stuff.

[The Damned]

This automatic subscription thing is rather annoying.

Since I don't really have anything to say except for that I'm not going to EVO (though I doubt I would go even if I had the money since it's in Las Vegas), I figured I'd just post these since I've been on Youtube so much recently:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuKQhbOwhxg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdzjVnH9YoY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9xFNetUC1g&feature=related



Ugh, I think something is really wrong with me guys. I had heat exhaustion on Thursday, but I still am feeling it today. I shouldn't be having symptoms for this long so it might be indicative of something more serious.

Hmmm...actually, I conveniently was reading on temperature-related (and pressure-related) diseases in the book Body Trauma yesterday, and yeah, that doesn't sound like heat exhaustion at all since all you have to do get rid of it is drink lots of fluids.

How are you sure it was even heat exhaustion in the first place? What's the temperature been like in Hel...er Texas lately?

(I should note that I am both not a doctor and I do not like doctors [despite liking dentists], but yeah, you should go get checked out as soon [and cost-effectively] as possible.)

[DrumlinerJoe]

lol, well I was a lifeguard back in my early 20's, and I never had a problem with it cause I knew how to care of myself. I just got laid off recently so I went back to lifeguarding cause it was the only thing I could find on such short notice.

I know how to take care of myself in the heat, although it HAS been in the 100's here. I'm going to the doctoro tomorrow just to check things out. Hypertention and high blood pressure do run in my family, and those with those diseases do have a higher instance of heat exhaustion, so he'll probably check that out.

[Azagtoth]

Is that suppose to be a mustached smiley

Yes indeed. :{D

[BeaTs*]

I figured I'd just post these since I've been on Youtube so much recently:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuKQhbOwhxg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdzjVnH9YoY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9xFNetUC1g&feature=related

omg thank you god I love you for these! awesomeness

my evo chance of going still depends on if anyone else from chi is going : / hard to tell.

after going toe to toe with wong (3 - 1 wong, but the games I lost were very close [and actually I should've won if my execution didn't crap out]) in mvc2 for the gfinals at yesterday's tournament I'm very hungry for moar marvel.

[BlodiaVulcan5]

I got the downs that I don't have many in real life gay friends to do gay stuff with. I do talk to this one dude, but he always fails to mention all the gay stuff he attends and it annoys the hell out of me because I could have been there at whatever time he went. I get the hint, he just doesn't want to hang out with me anymore. I do live an hours drive away from him, but i'm more than willing to drive and get there, but fuck if you don't tell me these things or don't invite me at all, i get a little miffed.

I dunno, i feel unwanted.

/venting

[Turbovec]

I got the downs that I don't have many in real life gay friends to do gay stuff with. I do talk to this one dude, but he always fails to mention all the gay stuff he attends and it annoys the hell out of me because I could have been there at whatever time he went. I get the hint, he just doesn't want to hang out with me anymore. I do live an hours drive away from him, but i'm more than willing to drive and get there, but fuck if you don't tell me these things or don't invite me at all, i get a little miffed.

I dunno, i feel unwanted.

/venting

Had that happen here with certain groups. They were so tightly knit that any newcomers were pretty much outcasted. Fortunately I found others to chill with, but even then, the whole thing is pretty stupid. Sorry you've had to put up with that.

[Fennec]

I got the downs that I don't have many in real life gay friends to do gay stuff with. I do talk to this one dude, but he always fails to mention all the gay stuff he attends and it annoys the hell out of me because I could have been there at whatever time he went. I get the hint, he just doesn't want to hang out with me anymore. I do live an hours drive away from him, but i'm more than willing to drive and get there, but fuck if you don't tell me these things or don't invite me at all, i get a little miffed.

I dunno, i feel unwanted.

/venting

Define "gay stuff"

I'm not aware of any "gay stuff" that's worth doing.

[iwst99]

Define "gay stuff"

I'm not aware of any "gay stuff" that's worth doing.

Gay orgies?

Mmm...orgies.

[sh1fty]

Define "gay stuff"

I'm not aware of any "gay stuff" that's worth doing.



Butt sex is def worth doing.

[BlodiaVulcan5]

Had that happen here with certain groups. They were so tightly knit that any newcomers were pretty much outcasted. Fortunately I found others to chill with, but even then, the whole thing is pretty stupid. Sorry you've had to put up with that.

Yeah, man. I understand that there's the distance aspect, i'm not close enough to be present all the time and be a regular member of the posse. Though, how can I get the chance to do so if I don't get the chance to be included? He's as local as I can get.

There just isn't a strong lump of people in the immediate local area to me to do gay stuff with.


Define "gay stuff"

I'm not aware of any "gay stuff" that's worth doing.

Regular activities, but with a group of like-minded people, a.k.a. "all gay posse." A group and a place where I'm not afraid of sharing with a buddy "Hey check out that dude, he's got a purty mouf" or "how's the bacon? I'd love to pork you." Where I can be comfortable letting my inner gay breathe a little.

For example, this friend goes up to Castro every weekend, and on one occasion he said he would bring me up on a weekend because it's much more crowded and friendly. He's been going every weekend, every time i catch up with him, he always goes on and on about the things he saw/did at the Castro and says that I should go sometime. I enjoy listening to the stories, but when is this invite going to happen? Never? I've been told to be patient by other people, but it doesn't help to be constantly reminded I missed out on these "fun things."

[iwst99]

Regular activities, but with a group of like-minded people, a.k.a. "all gay posse." A group and a place where I'm not afraid of sharing with a buddy "Hey check out that dude, he's got a purty mouf" or "how's the bacon? I'd love to pork you." Where I can be comfortable letting my inner gay breathe a little.

Wow, gay stuff sounds boring.

[The Damned]

Where I can be comfortable letting my inner gay breathe a little.

And you couldn't do that around non-gay people? I'm not being rhetorical.

(I mean, unless you dying to say the "how's the bacon? I'd love to pork you" line to people and not have them back away with such rapidity that Sonic the Hedgehog looks slow.)

I don't know. I never got why you--"you" in the general sense, not specifically you--necessarily had to hang out with like-minded people, but then I pretty much feel like a hanger-on almost any time I'm out with more than one person, so yeah.

(It's why I kind of laughed upon hearing that gay fraternity at UCB kind of imploded in less than a years time; everyone apparently slept with everyone else. What a way to defeat stereotypes, guys.)

[BlodiaVulcan5]

Wow, gay stuff sounds boring.

Boring is better than nothing. And if i'm there, it'll never be boring, hahaha.


And you couldn't do that around non-gay people? I'm not being rhetorical.

(I mean, unless you dying to say the "how's the bacon? I'd love to pork you" line to people and not have them back away with such rapidity that Sonic the Hedgehog looks slow.)

I don't know. I never got why you--"you" in the general sense, not specifically you--necessarily had to hang out with like-minded people, but then I pretty much feel like a hanger-on almost any time I'm out with more than one person, so yeah.

(It's why I kind of laughed upon hearing that gay fraternity at UCB kind of imploded in less than a years time; everyone apparently slept with everyone else. What a way to defeat stereotypes, guys.)

From experience, I couldn't. I've done that behavior around regular folk, but they just nod their head and don't really react to it other than nervous laughter or "That's sick, man. Whatever floats your boat." There's no rapport created because they end up twisting it into a stupid homophobe joke, or just don't care to relate to it and ignore it. I might as well be commenting to the air.

I don't have that problem with like-minded gay folk. They "get" it, and I feel less of an outcast.

[iwst99]

Why can't you call up friends and say hey let's go somewhere? Or you really just don't have that many gay friends? YOu're in Cali right? (I think).

[The Damned]

I don't have that problem with like-minded gay folk. They "get" it, and I feel less of an outcast.

I'm only bolding this part because it's what I was trying to get at rather than you said earlier: just because someone else is gay doesn't mean they're going to be like-minded to your situation.

I mean, I'm sure you know that, especially if you think that (sole?) guy you know who happens to be gay* is avoiding, but a lot of the times I've come into this thread or seen people talking on the Internet, people seem to automatically think that gay people all get along when they're just as divided as any other group of people.

I get that perhaps only people that happen to be gay would happen to get the difficulty that some people who happen to be gay have when it comes to "coming out", but not even all of them have to deal with that considering some of them are lucky enough to have parents who don't care for one reason or another among other things.

Shrug.

*Sorry for going all PC--well, I'm not sure you could even call it PC since gays are like the one American minority outside of maybe Muslims and atheists that media doesn't have to exactly cater to--on you by not just saying "gay people", but as I mentioned last year with my whole being mystified by "gay pride", it bugs me when gay people let being gay basically completely define them.

(Then again, basically any non-achievement-based "pride" event bugs the hell out of me.)

[BlodiaVulcan5]

Or you really just don't have that many gay friends?

YOu're in Cali right? (I think).

This.

I am in Cali, I live on the central coast (monterey peninsula).

[iwst99]

Hmm, yeah Central coast I think might be more difficult. ('-_-)

If you really want to make friends I guess you could try to find a group that does stuff you like that's gay oriented. Whether it's at a gay and lesbian center or on craigslist, you could try to find groups there (avoiding finding sex there though :-\). I do gay bowling for example, and I've met a lot of people from there. Of course I'm not very social so I don't want to hang out with most of these people outside from bowling, but if I wanted to I could. You need to get yourself out there to find friends, they won't come to you.

[Mechanica]

I'm only bolding this part because it's what I was trying to get at rather than you said earlier: just because someone else is gay doesn't mean they're going to be like-minded to your situation.

It has more of a chance than your average straight guy. I have a much higher chance of getting along with any gay guy than any straight guy. It just so happens we'll always at least have one thing in common, something to bond over. I have very little in common with most straight guys - not trying to generalize, but like aside from srk peeps and other video game nerds, I have a much better time hanging out with gays. I know it's all exclusive and not fair but to be honest, but I'd rather hang out with a gay guy than a straight guy any day of the week. I don't have many gay guy friends though, so it's still exciting to me in a way.

I totally agree on the 'letting my gay breathe' or whatever. It's hard to explain but there's just a higher level of comfort when I'm around people that are gay. I'm so used to being outnumbered in all situations of my life, it feels good to have other people around with the same orientation. It doesn't matter much though because I'm one of those weird gays that only likes older guys so I can't really like check out guys and talk about how hot some random guy is with other gays, because they're like dude that's gross. But they're not as grossed out as a straight guy would be. :lol:

[Fennec]

I need your halp fellow ******* and anyone else interested!

I need some good movie or TV series show recommendations. I can't think of anything to watch anymore.
I've seen so many movies. I'm starved for entertainment - so lets hear it. Top 5/10 recommendations!

Does anyone here play Dota or 3s online?

Also is anyone here into Electronic? Like Hard, Progressive and Euphoric Trance?
I love *some* House too, but most House sounds REALLY flaming, and that's not my thing. I.e. Most of the House they play in gay clubs. I'm more into Hard House or Tech House I think.
Something with a dirty heavy dark grinding beat that doesn't have queer sounding vocals would be ideal. (Something similar to this I suppose - skip to 3:00 in) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmrcSV1HfCk

Here are some more examples of stuff I listen to in case you have any suggestions!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKpH8kDggQY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnEUfeiSKt0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpbYEfXoA2E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OQ-bGIDucM

[Æther]

I got 3S in GGPO amongst other games. Although I haven't had the best of connections on 3S.

As for TV shows.... I only have my TV on for the white noise so take that as you will. :p

[Æther]

Hmm, yeah Central coast I think might be more difficult. ('-_-)

If you really want to make friends I guess you could try to find a group that does stuff you like that's gay oriented. Whether it's at a gay and lesbian center or on craigslist, you could try to find groups there (avoiding finding sex there though :-\). I do gay bowling for example, and I've met a lot of people from there. Of course I'm not very social so I don't want to hang out with most of these people outside from bowling, but if I wanted to I could. You need to get yourself out there to find friends, they won't come to you.

You'll probably have more luck than me and my BF did. Every time we had a conversation going with other gay locals they always assumed we were looking for a hookup or that we were cheating on each other. Shit was so annoying we both got rid of our accounts on the gay sites.

[Yuna]

Anyone looking for an EVO roommate?

[BlodiaVulcan5]

I need some good movie or TV series show recommendations. I can't think of anything to watch anymore.
I've seen so many movies. I'm starved for entertainment - so lets hear it. Top 5/10 recommendations!

Does anyone here play Dota or 3s online?

Also is anyone here into Electronic? Like Hard, Progressive and Euphoric Trance?
I love *some* House too, but most House sounds REALLY flaming, and that's not my thing. I.e. Most of the House they play in gay clubs. I'm more into Hard House or Tech House I think.
Something with a dirty heavy dark grinding beat that doesn't have queer sounding vocals would be ideal. (Something similar to this I suppose - skip to 3:00 in) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmrcSV1HfCk

I don't watch TV that much, so the shows i'll recommend are out of season, such as House M.D. Also Anthony Bourdain's No Reservations. That's all I got.

i play 3S, but not online.

Can you give me an example what a song with "queer sounding vocals" sounds like?

[Fennec]

Can you give me an example what a song with "queer sounding vocals" sounds like?

That would require too much effort spent youtubing music I don't like.
The songs I did quickly look for I couldn't find.

I don't know what the gay clubs are like over there but over here they play the most monotonous boring trashy house music. Even if I was on E I still wouldn't dance to it because it's that bad.

All of my friends from Europe that have been out to the clubs here are like "WTF is this shit?" So maybe your scene is a bit different over there and you aren't subjected to really horrible House music.

[LightningStorm]

I need some good movie or TV series show recommendations. I can't think of anything to watch anymore.
I've seen so many movies. I'm starved for entertainment - so lets hear it. Top 5/10 recommendations!

I watch a LOT (and I mean a LOT!) of TV and since I've been with Netflix for about 8 years I've seen quite a lot of movies too. That said I'd need to know what kinds of things you like in a TV Show/Movie. What generes what types of story lines etc. Do you care if the shows have been off the air for a while and therefore would have to be tracked down on DVD or the internet? If old shows are fine then do you have a lot of time to watch them I.e. would you care if it was a show that ran for 7 years therefore giving you over a hundred episodes to watch? Similarly if it's a show on the air now would you want to have to go back and track down the already aired episodes?

I could give you my 5 top shows of all time and my 5 top shows currently airing but you might not like any of them.

That said, here are my top 5 shows of all time (all of them are Sci-Fi)
5. Jericho
4. Jeremiah
3. Lost
2. Battlestar Galactica (2003)
1. Babylon 5

And here are my top 5 shows that are still on the air:
5. Burn Notice
4. Dollhouse
3. True Blood
2. Dexter
1. Lost

[Fennec]

I watch a LOT (and I mean a LOT!) of TV and since I've been with Netflix for about 8 years I've seen quite a lot of movies too. That said I'd need to know what kinds of things you like in a TV Show/Movie. What generes what types of story lines etc. Do you care if the shows have been off the air for a while and therefore would have to be tracked down on DVD or the internet? If old shows are fine then do you have a lot of time to watch them I.e. would you care if it was a show that ran for 7 years therefore giving you over a hundred episodes to watch? Similarly if it's a show on the air now would you want to have to go back and track down the already aired episodes?

I could give you my 5 top shows of all time and my 5 top shows currently airing but you might not like any of them.

That said, here are my top 5 shows of all time (all of them are Sci-Fi)
5. Jericho
4. Jeremiah
3. Lost
2. Battlestar Galactica (2003)
1. Babylon 5

And here are my top 5 shows that are still on the air:
5. Burn Notice
4. Dollhouse
3. True Blood
2. Dexter
1. Lost


I can't really answer those questions since I generally steer clear of TV related programming. I enjoyed the first season of Heroes. I thought the second season was pretty lame and I only bothered to watch the first episode of the third season. I'm not sure if I can be bothered to watch the rest of the third season since the second season pretty much ruined it for me. I also heard from a friend that the third season wasn't that great.

I've seen all 3 seasons of Dexter. It's good, but some of the character relationships kind've annoyed me so I'd often skip forward as I watched.

I've probably seen every episode of Seinfield and I enjoyed it for it's time but I couldn't go back and revisit something like that.

I watched about 20 minutes of the first episode of Lost and I was bored out of my mind.

I enjoyed watching most of The Ultimate Fighter series.

Recent movies that I've seen and enjoyed:

Taken
Gran Torino
Slumdog Millionaire
Twilight (I'm not sure why, it's pretty shitty, but I like it.)
Splinter

I'm sure there's more but that's all I can really come up with off the top of my head.

[Pasqual]

Can you give me an example what a song with "queer sounding vocals" sounds like?

This? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTN6Du3MCgI)

Dexter is amazing, just started the second season on DVD today. Looking to be an interesting season.

I've been enjoying Big Bang Theory and How I Met Your Mother but it's summer repeats now.

Movie-wise, I've been hearing good things about Let The Right One In, the Swedish vampire flick. There's also Anvil! The Story of Anvil which, if you can't tell by the title is about Anvil, the band. I'm really looking forward to Where the Wild Things Are.

And thus I introduce myself in this thread, with the Electric Six no less. I could've at least picked "Danger! High Voltage".

[Fennec]

Let The Right One In[/i], the Swedish vampire flick.

Saw this like 4+ months ago.
It's kind've depressing.
It's alright, but not as great as everyone says it is.

[Yuna]

Anyone looking for an EVO roommate?

*ahem*

[Pasqual]

Could you pay my expenses to get there? I'd totally split the room with you! As long as it's roommate and not roommate, I'm spoken for.

Oh, and you'd need to pay my entry into the tourney too.

[Yuna]

Yeah, no, not gonna fly.

[Pasqual]

Well shucks.

[BlodiaVulcan5]

I like film. I like it so much that I'm studying toward a career in film. So when you ask me about films, my perceptive is skewed.

I watch a film almost every night, and out of the lemons I sit through these are the films that I recommend watching, in most recent order. These are all first viewings:

Up - Tearing a page from Miyazaki's work, it's a definite winner.
Doubt - Solid performances and a solid concept. No two viewings are alike.
Slumdog Millionaire - I read the book beforehand, so I knew the plot already. They changed a few things, and turned the film into a love story, but overall it geat.
Star Trek - Total popcorn flick filled with what you want in a summer blockbuster: explosions, fights, sex, and time travel. Screenplay is written with an acid tongue, and it's much appreciate in an "alternate universe" Star Trek.
A Clockwork Orange - Ahead of it's time in style, socially relevant as a period piece. I enjoyed it for its extreme and unsettling subject matter: illusion of choice.
The Kite Runner - A bittersweet story of redemption. I really liked the setup and frame of the very last shot. He runs down the hill passed the camera as his step-brother's kite runner, it gets quiet for a couple of frames, then the credits roll. Really nice way to wrap up the film.
Into the Wild - An incredible and sad film about loneliness, self discovery, doom, alienation, and happiness. McCandless's memorable last written words resonated and hit me like a ton a bricks.


That would require too much effort spent youtubing music I don't like.
The songs I did quickly look for I couldn't find.

I don't know what the gay clubs are like over there but over here they play the most monotonous boring trashy house music. Even if I was on E I still wouldn't dance to it because it's that bad.

All of my friends from Europe that have been out to the clubs here are like "WTF is this shit?" So maybe your scene is a bit different over there and you aren't subjected to really horrible House music.

I listen to electronica regularly, is why I ask. I could list a bunch of things, but it might over saturate you. Distinguishing what House is or is not can be silly at times. Infusion happens across all genres. Electronica is less exposed over here, you'll only really find it in underground and hobbiest scenes, so of course what is played on the most popular venues of this side of the glow stick will not represent the good stuff. People are still stuck in lumping anything remotely electronica under the "techno" label.

I haven't been to a gay club out here so I don't know first hand what plays. The US as a whole have many different scenes. Chicago and Seattle has a thriving Electro-House infusion scene. NY has some grimier tunes. LA is a mixed bag of old and new. Not sure about Miami or Texas, I don't pay attention to them. San Francisco (bay area)... this is what you're looking for. All of it is here. It's a welcoming port for all of European artists.

You're into the heavier trance, so rather than labelling what is and isn't trance/house/whatever, i'll just pass on a few suggestions on what I like that's close to your taste:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAJAIxaV7a8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MZmPoPvJYE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T21dEC2CFQ#t=00m55s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_2prv-LLkU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXpmdtIkgGE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLWDSpcHyz4#t=02m55s




And thus I introduce myself in this thread, with the Electric Six no less. I could've at least picked "Danger! High Voltage".

That does count. As much as I'd like to forget it.

Introduction acknowledged.

[Fennec]

I like film. I like it so much that I'm studying toward a career in film. So when you ask me about films, my perceptive is skewed.

I watch a film almost every night, and out of the lemons I sit through these are the films that I recommend watching, in most recent order. These are all first viewings:

Up - Tearing a page from Miyazaki's work, it's a definite winner.
Doubt - Solid performances and a solid concept. No two viewings are alike.
Slumdog Millionaire - I read the book beforehand, so I knew the plot already. They changed a few things, and turned the film into a love story, but overall it geat.
Star Trek - Total popcorn flick filled with what you want in a summer blockbuster: explosions, fights, sex, and time travel. Screenplay is written with an acid tongue, and it's much appreciate in an "alternate universe" Star Trek.
A Clockwork Orange - Ahead of it's time in style, socially relevant as a period piece. I enjoyed it for its extreme and unsettling subject matter: illusion of choice.
The Kite Runner - A bittersweet story of redemption. I really liked the setup and frame of the very last shot. He runs down the hill passed the camera as his step-brother's kite runner, it gets quiet for a couple of frames, then the credits roll. Really nice way to wrap up the film.
Into the Wild - An incredible and sad film about loneliness, self discovery, doom, alienation, and happiness. McCandless's memorable last written words resonated and hit me like a ton a bricks.



I listen to electronica regularly, is why I ask. I could list a bunch of things, but it might over saturate you. Distinguishing what House is or is not can be silly at times. Infusion happens across all genres. Electronica is less exposed over here, you'll only really find it in underground and hobbiest scenes, so of course what is played on the most popular venues of this side of the glow stick will not represent the good stuff. People are still stuck in lumping anything remotely electronica under the "techno" label.

I haven't been to a gay club out here so I don't know first hand what plays. The US as a whole have many different scenes. Chicago and Seattle has a thriving Electro-House infusion scene. NY has some grimier tunes. LA is a mixed bag of old and new. Not sure about Miami or Texas, I don't pay attention to them. San Francisco (bay area)... this is what you're looking for. All of it is here. It's a welcoming port for all of European artists.

You're into the heavier trance, so rather than labelling what is and isn't trance/house/whatever, i'll just pass on a few suggestions on what I like that's close to your taste:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAJAIxaV7a8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MZmPoPvJYE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T21dEC2CFQ#t=00m55s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_2prv-LLkU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXpmdtIkgGE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLWDSpcHyz4#t=02m55s




That does count. As much as I'd like to forget it.

Introduction acknowledged.

I'm not one of those people that lump Electronic into the the "Techno" category. I've been listening to Electronic for a long time. I have a pretty good ear and can usually differentiate between what is what. Yes sometimes you get a fusion of sounds and you can't really attach a specific label but you can get pretty close with most tracks.

I've heard all those tracks before except for the Tiesto one. Mmm I maybe should have been more specific in my requests. Looking for stuff that was produced no earlier then 2007. Don't worry about trying to over sature me. I listen to a lot of music.

>> Xpander is a classic, but I've played it to death.

>> Not particularly a fan of OceanLab stuff. I tend to find it boring.

>> Only heard a few Voodoo & Serano tracks that I somewhat liked back in the day, but that sound is a bit dated and cheesy much like Darude - Sandstorm is.

>> Cosmicman is great but oldschool. I love Krystal Dreams by Cosmicman too.

>> Mark Norman is a pretty good producer, probably not one of my more favorite tracks by him. I prefer Niagara and Brasillia.

>> Tiesto was the shit back in the 90's and early 2000's but he's a bit washed up now. I was more into his set track selection then his actual productions. If you're going to send someone a Tiesto track it should be either of these two. ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw3wXIuTqpQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkQqWjnXOsM

Haven't heard this track in a while but love it! Aside from the borderline gay vocals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrQiFxSitwI

I should have been more specific with the movies too. Looking for stuff that's already on DVD that isn't too old. (90's+) I typically prefer action/horror.

I appreciate the help/suggestions though!

[Shotokan Symphony]

Saw this like 4+ months ago.
It's kind've depressing.
It's alright, but not as great as everyone says it is.

Indeed. It made me think that the director might be a pedo. :confused:

[BlodiaVulcan5]

Haven't heard this track in a while but love it! Aside from the borderline gay vocals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrQiFxSitwI


I know that track, yet your insecurity about music with "borderline gay vocals" is a little unsettling. It sounds like you're purposefully avoiding any music that sounds "too fruity" for you. For example, like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebLTaeAUpyk

why?

[iwst99]

Is this gay enough for y'all?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNg_AoKZLDc

[Fennec]

I know that track, yet your insecurity about music with "borderline gay vocals" is a little unsettling. It sounds like you're purposefully avoiding any music that sounds "too fruity" for you. For example, like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebLTaeAUpyk

why?

Why should it be unsettling?

Yes, I avoid fruity music.

It probably has to do with many nights of listening to horrible electronic music at clubs in Vancouver.

[Fennec]

Is this gay enough for y'all?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNg_AoKZLDc

That's kind've funny.

I figured it would have more views then that though.

[DrumlinerJoe]

Kaskade Sorry the Dirty South Mix is "gay"? That was like a huge club banger that everyone likes. I wouldn't consider that even remotely gay. In fact the dude who sings it is married.

I used to have those kinds of insecurities about the music I liked too though, when I was younger. After a while I just realized that it was other folks' problems if they thought I was "too gay" or anything like that just for the music I listened to.

[BlodiaVulcan5]

Why should it be unsettling?

Yes, I avoid fruity music.

It probably has to do with many nights of listening to horrible electronic music at clubs in Vancouver.

You came off as homophobic.

[yah yaahh b*tch!]

Kaskade Sorry the Dirty South Mix is "gay"? That was like a huge club banger that everyone likes. I wouldn't consider that even remotely gay. In fact the dude who sings it is married.

I used to have those kinds of insecurities about the music I liked too though, when I was younger. After a while I just realized that it was other folks' problems if they thought I was "too gay" or anything like that just for the music I listened to.

Yes. House music is only "gay" in north america.

Fred Falke, Deadmau, Bangalter and co. all make music for people. Not gay people.


Cheesy techno trance has given all electronica a bad name, mainly house with its soulful R&B a capellas and smooth vocals.



Carry on, queerosexuals.

[Fennec]

Kaskade Sorry the Dirty South Mix is "gay"? That was like a huge club banger that everyone likes. I wouldn't consider that even remotely gay. In fact the dude who sings it is married.

I used to have those kinds of insecurities about the music I liked too though, when I was younger. After a while I just realized that it was other folks' problems if they thought I was "too gay" or anything like that just for the music I listened to.

I didn't say that it was GAY. Don't misquote me.
I like that tune.
I said that I feel the vocals are "BORDERLINE" gay. I'm still going to listen and enjoy.

I have zero insecruities about listening to Electronic and I constantly defend my taste in music from ignorant people.

[BlodiaVulcan5]

Not listening to music because it may contain lyrics (or style of delivery) that sound "gay" is an insecurity, bud.

[yah yaahh b*tch!]

BURN.

King Kooba - If I Could (Kaskade More Pop Mix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zgKaNYieRw



Is this gay?

[Fennec]

You came off as homophobic.

I don't get it....

How can I be homophobic when I've openly admitted to being QUEER?

[BlodiaVulcan5]

BURN.

King Kooba - If I Could (Kaskade More Pop Mix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zgKaNYieRw

Is this gay?

In my opinion, no. That's soulful house. Nothing gay about it.

[Pasqual]

I don't get it....

How can I be homophobic when I've openly admitted to being QUEER?

Same as a self-hating Jewish person, someone who resents their nature/upbringing whatever. Not saying you are, just saying. It's like a misanthropic version of autophobia, the fear of oneself.

What everybody needs to understand and clarify in their posts is the difference between "I don't listen to this because it sounds kinda gay" and "I don't listen to this because I had to listen to too many songs that have this same kinda-gay sound to them".

I think it comes down to calling vocals "borderline gay" for their delivery is interpreted into falling back on gay stereotypes; effeminate voices, high pitches, emotional delivery and/or lyrics.

That's all I got. I'm too busy listening to Santhrax vs The World on Alphaism, good e-dramas and shit.

[BlodiaVulcan5]

This sounds pretty gay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ2MDcwbG5s

I heart Pasqual.

[Pasqual]

This sounds pretty gay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ2MDcwbG5s

I heart Pasqual.

Hugs. That's a very happy song, indeed.

[RancidQweef]

Here is an honest question I have for the gay community? How did you know you were gay? I always wondered if gays were born to be gay or if one day they just told themselves i like meatsticks or is it a gradual thing you turn yourself into...enlighten me please.

[Fennec]

Here is an honest question I have for the gay community? How did you know you were gay? I always wondered if gays were born to be gay or if one day they just told themselves i like meatsticks or is it a gradual thing you turn yourself into...enlighten me please.

I think you are born this way.

Though some people would have you believe that your upbringing - childhood and early teen life experiences can have an effect on your sexual preference. In some ways I can see the connection between this theory and myself because at some point I did feel an attraction towards women. I did date women and play around a bit. However I could also say that I was influenced to feel this way by society. Over time I came to realize that I wasn't heterosexual. It was not my first preference.

I don't believe that you wake up one day and say to yourself "Hey, I like cock." for no reason.

That's illogical because unless you are attracted to guys you wouldn't progress in that direction.

There's no "turning yourself into" anything.
Some people are gay but remain in denial for some time and gradually come to terms with who they are bit by bit.

I don't know if your post was legit or not, but I had nothing better to do with my time anyhow.

[yah yaahh b*tch!]

Youre born gay, but I think you can still be coaxed into it.

Ive heard stories of my friends getting people drunk and high and then anything goes.


I messed around with a tranny once, before I actually knew she was a tranny. So I guess you could say I got tricked.

[Azagtoth]

Same as a self-hating Jewish person, someone who resents their nature/upbringing whatever. Not saying you are, just saying. It's like a misanthropic version of autophobia, the fear of oneself.

I think it comes down to calling vocals "borderline gay" for their delivery is interpreted into falling back on gay stereotypes; effeminate voices, high pitches, emotional delivery and/or lyrics.

I think you're reading way too deeply into it. While I do agree with the lamenting that "gay" translates to something really feminine and more often than not something undesirable, it's unfortunately been coded into some of our heads that way.

I agree with him to a fault. Granted electronica as a whole isn't really my thing so to be fair I'll use rock as an example, but some shit is just too fruity for me even disregarding that I come from a background of mostly TUFF GUY heavy music.

I could rock this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhLm4JgXd5Q

...or this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS37Eals0uU (fun fact: I sang this to my BF for our anniversary)

...but this is pretty much where I draw the line: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieWeFnwd4vQ

Rancidqueef: You're born gay, or better yet you're born with the potential to see beauty in the same sex. Assuming it was possible to "become" gay, there would be no inherent advantage to doing so.

[Fennec]

Some people believe that everyone is bi.

Drugs can influence the decisions of many people, but typically that's only when they are on drugs or looking to score drugs.

A friend of mine let a guy suck his dick when he was really high. He's one of the straightest dudes I know. I was totally shocked.

There's also gay for pay!

[The Green Trench Coat]

Youre born gay, but I think you can still be coaxed into it.

Ive heard stories of my friends getting people drunk and high and then anything goes.


I messed around with a tranny once, before I actually knew she was a tranny. So I guess you could say I got tricked.

you are born with the attraction.

Okay, not that you asked but here is my take on situations like the one you mentioned.

I look at sex as an act to fulfill a need. much in the same way eating fulfills your need to eat or scratching fulfills your need to stop an itch.

gay straight bi transgender doesn't really matter you have sex because you are horney. just like indian chinese japanese american jamaican foods dont' really matter cause you are gonna eat if you are hungry.

You may not prefer indian food but if you are really hungry you may eat it. Just like someone may put sushi in the form of a burger and you may eat it and like it.. and then realize it wasnt exactly a burger. it stopped you from being hungry and even if you never have it again you've tried sushi.

You may have an itch on your back and instead of trying to reach it yourself you might ask someone else to scratch your back for you .. or you might scratch against a tree or my personal favorite.. scratching your back against a brick wall.. mmmmm.

so you got with a tranny..
no biggie. I know people would be quick to put a label on that but i see more and more that labels are just fuckin stupid.

[Pasqual]

I think you're reading way too deeply into it. While I do agree with the lamenting that "gay" translates to something really feminine and more often than not something undesirable, it's unfortunately been coded into some of our heads that way.

I agree with him to a fault. Granted electronica as a whole isn't really my thing so to be fair I'll use rock as an example, but some shit is just too fruity for me even disregarding that I come from a background of mostly TUFF GUY heavy music.

I could rock this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhLm4JgXd5Q

...or this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS37Eals0uU (fun fact: I sang this to my BF for our anniversary)

...but this is pretty much where I draw the line: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieWeFnwd4vQ

Rancidqueef: You're born gay, or better yet you're born with the potential to see beauty in the same sex. Assuming it was possible to "become" gay, there would be no inherent advantage to doing so.

I don't feel we're coded to it so much as just... used to it. It's comfortable branding things certain ways, more comfortable than taking the time to dissect them further and gaining a better understanding.

As for Coheed, I just don't fucking know. I really like "Welcome Home" but cannot stand how Claudio's voice sounds on "A Favor House Atlantic". Their comics are good at least, if not the best written, and the whole universe of mythos they've designed is pretty damn intriguing. I should pick up an album and give them a legit shot.

What's your opinion on Geddy Lee and his voice in Rush's music?

[RancidQweef]

I think you are born this way.

Though some people would have you believe that your upbringing - childhood and early teen life experiences can have an effect on your sexual preference. In some ways I can see the connection between this theory and myself because at some point I did feel an attraction towards women. I did date women and play around a bit. However I could also say that I was influenced to feel this way by society. Over time I came to realize that I wasn't heterosexual. It was not my first preference.

I don't believe that you wake up one day and say to yourself "Hey, I like cock." for no reason.

That's illogical because unless you are attracted to guys you wouldn't progress in that direction.

There's no "turning yourself into" anything.
Some people are gay but remain in denial for some time and gradually come to terms with who they are bit by bit.

I don't know if your post was legit or not, but I had nothing better to do with my time anyhow.

No, it was legit dude....Im not trying to be funny....Its something Ive always wondered. Thanks for the honest answer.

[RancidQweef]

So is the way a lot of gay people talk something they aquire with hanging with others of there likings....Ive never yet met a gay person who talked normal it seems...Why is that? or better yet, where does that kind of talk come from? Its like the gays want others to know they are gay talk or something.....This a legit question i also wondered..

[BlodiaVulcan5]

Well then you haven't met any one of us in this thread.

Are you referring to lisps and overly dramatic manner of speak?

[RancidQweef]

Well then you haven't met any one of us in this thread.

Are you referring to lisps and overly dramatic manner of speak?

Yeah...I mean obviously it doesnt apply to all but why do some of them talk that way? Yes Im referring to what you mentioned.

[The Green Trench Coat]

So is the way a lot of gay people talk something they aquire with hanging with others of there likings....Ive never yet met a gay person who talked normal it seems...Why is that? or better yet, where does that kind of talk come from? Its like the gays want others to know they are gay talk or something.....This a legit question i also wondered..

they don't know they are doing it.. most of them.


but to be honest if it's the dialouge you are talking about sometimes..
well i'll be honest.. sometimes gay people find the best words to describe everything.

"She's a hot tranny mess"
"He's baby bears poridge.. just right"
"that's sooo Extra"

etc.. in the right moment they are the perfect words to describe what you are looking at.

[Fennec]

So is the way a lot of gay people talk something they aquire with hanging with others of there likings....Ive never yet met a gay person who talked normal it seems...Why is that? or better yet, where does that kind of talk come from? Its like the gays want others to know they are gay talk or something.....This a legit question i also wondered..

You HAVE met gay people that talk normal - you just didn't realize it because they are "talking normal" as you put it. They don't stand out like the glaringly obvious stereotypical homosexual does.

Most people that have met me just assume I'm straight upon first impression. (Including other gay people.)

There are many gay people that are difficult to detect.

The more effeminate lisp speaking homosexual is born this way.
Though I'm sure *some* people subconsciously adopt these characteristics due to the company they keep. Others want to fit in and change intentionally. MOST simply are this way and cannot help it.

[yah yaahh b*tch!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DePJsf8lUdY

Psych170 has a lot of good videos on youtube.

[Azagtoth]

As for Coheed, I just don't fucking know. I really like "Welcome Home" but cannot stand how Claudio's voice sounds on "A Favor House Atlantic". Their comics are good at least, if not the best written, and the whole universe of mythos they've designed is pretty damn intriguing. I should pick up an album and give them a legit shot.

What's your opinion on Geddy Lee and his voice in Rush's music?

I honestly tried to give Coheed a shot, but I dunno. I was able to look past Daryl's voice (even enjoy it) and get into Glassjaw, but I just can't get behind Claudio, although I guess it doesn't help that I find their music kind of boring too.

As for Rush, it doesn't bug me as much, but they'd be cheesy as hell no matter who was singing for them.

[Pasqual]

That's totally fair enough. If you dig comics at all Azagtoth, check out their stuff at any of the nicer Miami comic shops; there was one in Aventura Mall like 5 years ago when I lived there I think?

Rancid, are you Portland Oregon or Maine? If you're PDX we should game at Tilt or on XBL or something, you can get an idea of things.

In reality, some talk "that way" the same reason some southerners have that slow drawl. It can be a reaction to your environment/friends, it can be subconsciously developed to fit into your own and others expectations of what a gay dude should sound like... hell, some guys I've met just do it so that everyone has no questions about their sexuality or because they like the attention they get for screaming "OMG, girlfriend!" in a crowded room. These are definitely more often the exception rather than the rule though.

[DrumlinerJoe]

New pic for work.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l301/joetx/Image000-2.jpg

[yah yaahh b*tch!]

Youre always posting pictures, whore. Heres a rare picture of me.
http://i40.tinypic.com/n1c9ed.jpg


Did anyone catch the part where I actually outed myself on SRK? The tranny loving fuck anything when im drunk yah yaah bitch. Just wondering.

[DrumlinerJoe]

^

Disgusting.

I thought y'all would enjoy this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98ckKfRbVi4&feature=channel_page

[yah yaahh b*tch!]

What..im not fat enough for you yet, Joehanna?

Thats what they say after you leave the Texas Hold Em sex parties over there. Disgusting.


**calls you**

[Fennec]

^

Disgusting.

I thought y'all would enjoy this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98ckKfRbVi4&feature=channel_page

Lol @ that video.

"Tight jean wearing ability."

[Fennec]

What..im not fat enough for you yet, Joehanna?

Thats what they say after you leave the Texas Hold Em sex parties over there. Disgusting.


**calls you**

Don't feel bad I'm not fat enough either.

[BeaTs*]

Youre always posting pictures, whore. Heres a rare picture of me.
http://i40.tinypic.com/n1c9ed.jpg


Did anyone catch the part where I actually outed myself on SRK? The tranny loving fuck anything when im drunk yah yaah bitch. Just wondering.
not bad, better than I imagined...lol

[yah yaahh b*tch!]

Now im curious as to what you imagined.

[BlodiaVulcan5]

Yeah...I mean obviously it doesnt apply to all but why do some of them talk that way? Yes Im referring to what you mentioned.

To get into your pants. Talking like a girl is every man's weakness.

yummers.

[bear]

Here is an honest question I have for the gay community? How did you know you were gay? I always wondered if gays were born to be gay or if one day they just told themselves i like meatsticks or is it a gradual thing you turn yourself into...enlighten me please.

I've always thought attraction was pretty simple.

Think back to when you were first noticing sex, and what type of people you were attracted to. Was this something you chose? Did you say, "I think I'm gonna be into blond girls with big hips" and then that's what you were attracted to? Or is that just what you noticed.

Straight, gay, bi ... I don't think it's very tough to discover what you're attracted to. You know it when you see it. It's never struck me as a terribly conscious process.

[RancidQweef]

I've always thought attraction was pretty simple.

Think back to when you were first noticing sex, and what type of people you were attracted to. Was this something you chose? Did you say, "I think I'm gonna be into blond girls with big hips" and then that's what you were attracted to? Or is that just what you noticed.

Straight, gay, bi ... I don't think it's very tough to discover what you're attracted to. You know it when you see it. It's never struck me as a terribly conscious process.


With that being said I first found a physical attraction to women when I was in 3rd grade....Im not saying I would be poppin boners and shit but what I am saying is that women gave me the warm butterfly feeling in my stomach, especially the ones who even acknowledged me..not that i expected anything from it but I was young and it felt good....

So now with that bieng said is it safe to assume that gays were doing the same thing as me except it was of there own gender they were getting these feelings for....and if so. wouldnt at such a young age like myself realizing I have a fetish for the same sex almost seem like it is the wrong thing to do morally........Look, Im not gay by any means but I just find it hard to believe that a child or a young kid can except the fact he is gay when it just seems morally wrong...My parents didnt teach me not to be gay its just not what seems right..In no way am i hating on gays, Im just trying to have a better understanding.....

If it were my conclusion, I would say bieng gay is a choice people make later on in life when they are educated and willing to accept it...I just find it hard to believe there are 7 year old kids running around already knowing that one day they will be smoking pole!!

[Fennec]

With that being said I first found a physical attraction to women when I was in 3rd grade....Im not saying I would be poppin boners and shit but what I am saying is that women gave me the warm butterfly feeling in my stomach, especially the ones who even acknowledged me..not that i expected anything from it but I was young and it felt good....

So now with that bieng said is it safe to assume that gays were doing the same thing as me except it was of there own gender they were getting these feelings for....and if so. wouldnt at such a young age like myself realizing I have a fetish for the same sex almost seem like it is the wrong thing to do morally........Look, Im not gay by any means but I just find it hard to believe that a child or a young kid can except the fact he is gay when it just seems morally wrong...My parents didnt teach me not to be gay its just not what seems right..In no way am i hating on gays, Im just trying to have a better understanding.....

If it were my conclusion, I would say bieng gay is a choice people make later on in life when they are educated and willing to accept it...I just find it hard to believe there are 7 year old kids running around already knowing that one day they will be smoking pole!!


I don't know if you read my previous post but if you didn't you should, because it answers an important part of your question.

I didn't know at a young age.
I probably didn't figure it out until I was 18/19. Even then I still had doubts.

It isn't an issue of morals, it is an issue of happiness. If being with a guy makes you happy then what is the problem? Is it affecting anyone negatively? No, it's not.

I'm not going to get married and have kids because it's what society and religion deem as being morally correct. I would be unhappy.

[great cow lord]

Now im curious as to what you imagined.

prolly a oddly shaped guy with down syndrome and wearing those yin-yang t-shirts from walmart~

[yah yaahh b*tch!]

prolly a oddly shaped guy with down syndrome and wearing those yin-yang t-shirts from walmart~

Sorry to disappoint you.

[Æther]

Why the hell am I watching Ace Ventura Jr.? It's like a train wreck every 5 seconds. :bluu:


With that being said I first found a physical attraction to women when I was in 3rd grade....Im not saying I would be poppin boners and shit but what I am saying is that women gave me the warm butterfly feeling in my stomach, especially the ones who even acknowledged me..not that i expected anything from it but I was young and it felt good....

So now with that bieng said is it safe to assume that gays were doing the same thing as me except it was of there own gender they were getting these feelings for....and if so. wouldnt at such a young age like myself realizing I have a fetish for the same sex almost seem like it is the wrong thing to do morally........Look, Im not gay by any means but I just find it hard to believe that a child or a young kid can except the fact he is gay when it just seems morally wrong...My parents didnt teach me not to be gay its just not what seems right..In no way am i hating on gays, Im just trying to have a better understanding.....

If it were my conclusion, I would say bieng gay is a choice people make later on in life when they are educated and willing to accept it...I just find it hard to believe there are 7 year old kids running around already knowing that one day they will be smoking pole!!
IMO sexuality is like an onion. As you peel away every layer you discover something about your sexuality that's new. Whether it's that you like people who are big, small, hairy, smooth, etc. And yes even g/b/t***. What sheds every layer, IMO again, is situational. Maybe you saw a porno, looked at someone's booty, or even mudanely, was treated nicely by a certain person. Who knows. All in all it's a case by case subject. We all can't define what's "morally" right in sexuality. It's human emotion.

Also the rate people realize their sexuality is also situational. I, for instance, didn't know about my sexuality until probably 11-12. It DIDN'T mean I was gonna go and suck on some guy's knob at that very moment, but I knew where my attraction was. As the years went by though I became more educated in my sexuality and finally came out until I was 20-21.

***That's NOT to say that everyone has a "layer" for g/b/t. It's, once again, situational with every person.

[sh1fty]

ALL I know is that those grizzly lookin' bear guys make my heart race.



In unrelated news, I joined a Fraternity. ;o

[The Green Trench Coat]

In unrelated news, I joined a Fraternity. ;o

unless it's a fraternity of assasins I'm unimpressed.






j/k <- slightly.

[The Green Trench Coat]

have you guys ever watched "the heavyweights"?

it's a movie full of Biggercity hopefuls at fat camp with ben stiller as the camp director. By now all the cast has got to be in there mid 20's at least.



.... what i'm saying is.. they should make the heavyweights reunion and i should get ready to masturbate thru that entire sequal.

[Æther]

Paging Azagoth, paging Azagtoth... :wgrin:

[iwst99]

have you guys ever watched "the heavyweights"?

it's a movie full of Biggercity hopefuls at fat camp with ben stiller as the camp director. By now all the cast has got to be in there mid 20's at least.



.... what i'm saying is.. they should make the heavyweights reunion and i should get ready to masturbate thru that entire sequal.

I loved that movie. :D

I've only seen Kenan and that funny hispanic dude after that.

[bear]

With that being said I first found a physical attraction to women when I was in 3rd grade....Im not saying I would be poppin boners and shit but what I am saying is that women gave me the warm butterfly feeling in my stomach, especially the ones who even acknowledged me..not that i expected anything from it but I was young and it felt good....

So now with that bieng said is it safe to assume that gays were doing the same thing as me except it was of there own gender they were getting these feelings for....and if so. wouldnt at such a young age like myself realizing I have a fetish for the same sex almost seem like it is the wrong thing to do morally........Look, Im not gay by any means but I just find it hard to believe that a child or a young kid can except the fact he is gay when it just seems morally wrong...My parents didnt teach me not to be gay its just not what seems right..In no way am i hating on gays, Im just trying to have a better understanding.....

If it were my conclusion, I would say bieng gay is a choice people make later on in life when they are educated and willing to accept it...I just find it hard to believe there are 7 year old kids running around already knowing that one day they will be smoking pole!!

Not everyone notices sex/attraction at the same age. You were pretty early, some are much later. You don't have a choice over that either. But even for yourself, are you implying that at 7 you were thinking about eating girls out? The general attraction might have been there early, but the knowledge of what that meant likely didn't come for a long while. Middle school seems to be when people start to wise up on all this.

And as Aether mentioned, development happens as you're introduced to more. It's tough to be attracted to something you've never seen, or don't know exists. I've never met anyone who sat down and chose what they were going to be attracted to, and when. It might be possible (mind over boner?), but I've never heard of it.

I've never really seen the morality in any of this, myself. Just seems like biology, or a combination of genetics and one's environment. The science on all this is iffy, and I'm not well-read on the topic, but I'm not terribly concerned about it. It's never struck me as a big deal either way. As long as folks aren't doing things non-consensual or with kids, I couldn't care less what people are attracted to and why.


have you guys ever watched "the heavyweights"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df5hEU9N6qI

[Mechanica]

EDIT: I had a long ass post answering all your questions until I got to:


If it were my conclusion, I would say bieng gay is a choice people make later on in life when they are educated and willing to accept it..I just find it hard to believe there are 7 year old kids running around already knowing that one day they will be smoking pole!!

...

Why did I bother?

You go from "I realized at age 7 that I liked girls but wasn't about to pop boners and go fuck one"

straight to "but I just find it hard to believe there's 7 year old gay guys running around wanting to suck a dick"

I can't even type a response to you because it makes me so annoyed I can't think straight. Hmm. I wonder why you find it hard to believe.

[Æther]

Yeah not to mention that some gay people don't like oral.

OMG REALITY IMPLOSION

[Fennec]

Yeah not to mention that some gay people don't like oral.

OMG REALITY IMPLOSION

That's because a lot of gay people don't know how to suck cock.

[The Green Trench Coat]

With that being said I first found a physical attraction to women when I was in 3rd grade....Im not saying I would be poppin boners and shit but what I am saying is that women gave me the warm butterfly feeling in my stomach, especially the ones who even acknowledged me..not that i expected anything from it but I was young and it felt good....

So now with that bieng said is it safe to assume that gays were doing the same thing as me except it was of there own gender they were getting these feelings for....and if so. wouldnt at such a young age like myself realizing I have a fetish for the same sex almost seem like it is the wrong thing to do morally........Look, Im not gay by any means but I just find it hard to believe that a child or a young kid can except the fact he is gay when it just seems morally wrong...My parents didnt teach me not to be gay its just not what seems right..In no way am i hating on gays, Im just trying to have a better understanding.....

If it were my conclusion, I would say bieng gay is a choice people make later on in life when they are educated and willing to accept it...I just find it hard to believe there are 7 year old kids running around already knowing that one day they will be smoking pole!!


Btw my nephew is 8 and he got caught getting head from another 8 year old. Which i wouldn't even consider that a gay thing it's more of a thing thing.. kids are kids and they do weird stuff. (and no i've only seen the boy 1 time in my life so its got nothing to do with me)

What is the end game of your argument? what's the goal of your conversation. Cause what you said makes NO sense at all.. you are saying that gay people wait till they are of age and read all the pamphlets sign up for the news letters and go to the meetings for the gay agenda and then make a concious choice that penis is what they will desire from now on.

Does that really make sense to you? Is sexual orientation a lifestyle choice as much as say.. religion is? Really? I can remember having crushes on boys back when i was 9 and 10 years old. But just cause we're gay you'd add to your theory that for kids that young to have any attraction to the same sex at that age they'd have to be thinking about sucking dick.. when you yourself admitted at that age you werent thinking about fucking pussy.

Stop trying to make gay attraction seem so different than straight. It's clear that it grosses some people out much in the same way you probably would be grossed out by young guys that like to bone elderly women .. or fat women.. attraction is what it is and as long as there are consenting adults involved why do you even need to understand it. It is what it is.

do you give that much thought to why people like spicy food vs salty food? Do you really think that hard about why some people enjoy eating food that you consider gross vs people that like the same thing you do?

It is what it is. Keep you mind out of the bedroom and you'd have a lot better time with "understanding gay" but if you cant.. then dont bother trying to understand it. It would just be another thing in life that has eluded you.

[DrumlinerJoe]

Are y'all really taking a dude with the screen name "Rancid Qweef" seriously? Just on the name alone he deserves to be dismissed.

[great cow lord]

Sorry to disappoint you.

it's ok ,don't let it happen again. ;)