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The Green Trench Coat
03-14-2007, 08:09 AM
The last Gay thread "ask a gay guy" was closed. the one before that was the gay gamers thread both are gone.

So I'm opening this one. Just before we get started i just wanted to thank IWST99 for originally creating his thread but i think the purpose of his thread at least in his mind was realized about halfway through the thread.

The purpose of this one? Alot of people had questions that were silly and were answered in kind. which is absolutely fine.. others had questions and opinions that were a bit more involved. We all know the rules about religion so if were going to share our beliefs and opinions let's try to keep things respectful and intelligent if were gonna go there.

It's a discussion first and foremost so let's discuss.
got questions? Ask'em.

and this is not really version 2.0.5 of this thread.. i just thought it looked cool...

shaddup!

Mechanica
03-14-2007, 09:14 AM
Right on. I have nothing exceptional to add except that now nobody can bitch about it not being on topic, or us just digging a deeper hole or whatever else. :bgrin:

The other day, I was hanging out with some friends who know nothing of me not being hetero, and we were trying to see if someone we knew remembered our friend's girlfriend... Anyway, I was describing her, and I remembered her recently talking about getting her hair foiled, so I used the word (foiled) after my other friend said she had brownish hair... and then she laughed at me (a lot) and said she had to point out how gay it was that I used the word foiled... She was like "Hahaha, I'm sorry, but someone has to say it, that was so gay." and then I somehow managed to use it again, right after, and she proceeded to tell me that I was such a gay. :lol: Ahhh... I plan on telling her soon, but I can't really find a time to bring it up.

The Green Trench Coat
03-14-2007, 09:14 AM
I guess IWST stopped using the bear av also.. bummer :(

ytwojay
03-14-2007, 09:14 AM
Do you guys sneak peeks in public restrooms?

Team Cable
03-14-2007, 09:22 AM
When you shake other men's hands do you stare at their crotch?

Cause when I shake women's hands I often try to sneak a peak at the bosom. You gotta be ninja quick to do that.

Mechanica
03-14-2007, 09:24 AM
Do you guys sneak peeks in public restrooms?
Nope. I consider it a weird invasion of privacy, I don't care who I'm attracted to. I won't lie, I've wanted to. Watching someone pee isn't exactly something I have the hots for, though. The only time I've ever really given someone the double take is in the locker room, but shit... people in the locker room just walk around naked and flaunt it like they want you to see it... too bad most the guys there aren't something I want to look at. :lol: I tend to look at it from the straight guy perspective though, and avoid it just so people don't get creeped out and offended.

When you shake other men's hands do you stare at their crotch?

Cause when I shake women's hands I often try to sneak a peak at the bosom. You gotta be ninja quick to do that.
No... I look people in the eyes when I shake their hands. Handshakes are pretty weird times to try to glance there... usually people notice where your eyes are pointed. I'm sure most the girls you do that too actually notice and just pretend like they don't. Hahaha, I've had female friends tell me things like "He thinks I didn't notice."

I guess IWST stopped using the bear av also.. bummer :(

What a ***. :sad: :lol:

The Green Trench Coat
03-14-2007, 09:28 AM
Do you guys sneak peeks in public restrooms?

When you shake other men's hands do you stare at their crotch?

Cause when I shake women's hands I often try to sneak a peak at the bosom. You gotta be ninja quick to do that.

*embarrassed*
Sometimes.

I really do try not to look in the restrooms.. but sometimes guys are standing far from the urnial.. I kinda.. peek.

DrumlinerJoe
03-14-2007, 02:17 PM
I just checked the old thread and saw what happened. Pretty stupid reason to close it.

ruthless_nash
03-14-2007, 02:29 PM
this thread is ghey! :tdown:

Kuenai
03-14-2007, 02:29 PM
Whaddya know? I always joked around about "Damn, that mohawk is gay". I didn't realize I was on the money :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: You stopping by GW on thurs, Mech?

catchafire
03-14-2007, 02:39 PM
IWST is an idiot then for asking the last one to be closed. That was the most positive thread i've ever seen to help break the barriers between the homosexual and heterosexual community. Him asking the thread to be closed shows how he let a good thing like that be based all on him. Why should he have the power to close it, even though he started it?

For that matter, close this thread. I'm tired of all this ****** talk anyways. I'm pissed, because this thread isn't needed. The other one was good enough, and it helped to educate myself as well as many others. However, since it's closed i'll go back to my anti-homo ways.

No homo.

NAMMMMMM
03-14-2007, 02:52 PM
The last Gay thread "ask a gay guy" was closed. the one before that was the gay gamers thread both are gone.

So I'm opening this one. Just before we get started i just wanted to thank IWST99 for originally creating his thread but i think the purpose of his thread at least in his mind was realized about halfway through the thread.

The purpose of this one? Alot of people had questions that were silly and were answered in kind. which is absolutely fine.. others had questions and opinions that were a bit more involved. We all know the rules about religion so if were going to share our beliefs and opinions let's try to keep things respectful and intelligent if were gonna go there.

It's a discussion first and foremost so let's discuss.
got questions? Ask'em.

and this is not really version 2.0.5 of this thread.. i just thought it looked cool...

shaddup!


man i remember a looooooong ass time ago i met you at SHGL, and all i could remember was "jesus christ this is the HUGEST gay guy ive ever seen".

if my memory serves me correct.. you played makoto.

OLD SCHOOL FOE LYFE

Mechanica
03-14-2007, 02:52 PM
Whaddya know? I always joked around about "Damn, that mohawk is gay". I didn't realize I was on the money :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: You stopping by GW on thurs, Mech?

:lol: Burn. I've had kinda... vibrant hair since before I was attracted to anyone, but... a winner is you. :sweat: If it's any consolation(what?), I'm not totally gay! :tup: LOL. I figure I might as well get used to people thinking it, though... don't really care.

I think so. I've figured out how to brake (two-foot!) so that my car won't die when it's idle... I seriously have to pretend like the RPM tachometer is it's life bar... if it gets below like... 1,000, the car shuts off. I'm pretty sure I've pissed off quite a handful of people at stoplights so far.

IWST is an idiot then for asking the last one to be closed. That was the most positive thread i've ever seen to help break the barriers between the homosexual and heterosexual community. Him asking the thread to be closed shows how he let a good thing like that be based all on him. Why should he have the power to close it, even though he started it?
The thread wasn't exactly meant to just be a gay hangout topic, it was supposed to be a question-answer theme that helped people with their inquiries, and it just turned into repeat questions and it was teetering on the edge of religious debate... I don't blame him.


For that matter, close this thread. I'm tired of all this ****** talk anyways. I'm pissed, because this thread isn't needed.

Waaah, cry more. None of the threads on GD are needed.

MOD
03-14-2007, 02:58 PM
Thought i'd ask gay people about their prefered penis size

no homo

iwst99
03-14-2007, 03:06 PM
I'm not sure what you guys think the reason I closed it is. It has nothing to do with the last post there.

I like how everybody takes it personally or assumes they know the reason I closed it.

If you guys want a gay hang out thread, then by all means make this it. The other thread lost its purpose after the first 300 posts...seriously. I wanted to close it after the first week it was active, since I knew it was no longer going to be what I meant for it to be.

I'm glad it achieved what it did and helped other gay SRK members come out or become comfortable with themselves. But see, now you all have a thread you agreed on and can decided what it's meant for. It's the gay guy's thread for good now. The reason my thread turned into what it did is purely my fault.

In any case, I seriously give a flying fuck what others think I am trying to achieve or if I'm being selfish. Even the gay guys are pissed at me. There's only one person that seems to actually understand what I was trying to accomplish and how although I achieved it at first, in the end it wasn't what it was meant for at all. I hope this thread succeeds and brings happiness and rainbows to all.

CoMpOuNd
03-14-2007, 03:08 PM
I demand a stright guys thread.


But this is pretty cool too.....

word.

catchafire
03-14-2007, 03:10 PM
The thing is, why should it be a matter about you? Why should you have the power to close it? Why? Nothing was wrong with it, even if it did morph into a religous debate or if people asked the same questions. Shit man, this thing isn't simply understood by reading some text. You have to change people's perceptions if you wish to be the change that you seek.

Also, this is SRK, wtf DID you expect?

In every post you make, it's becoming clearer to me that this IS about you and you ARE selfish.

iwst99
03-14-2007, 03:12 PM
Do you even know what the original purpose of the thread was? It wasn't just a Q and A thread. I know it's hard for you to grasp...but once again I don't give a flying fuck.

Love,

IWST

Anyways, I'm gonna leave this thread alone and let gay guys be gay guys. I doubt my input is further needed.

Mechanica
03-14-2007, 03:14 PM
In every post you make, it's becoming clearer to me that this IS about you and you ARE selfish.

Are you retarded? What, exactly, do you think he is trying to gain in his 'selfish' ways? :lol:

The Green Trench Coat
03-14-2007, 03:21 PM
i see what catch afire is saying.. after a while it really did kinda become less about ask iwst a question and more about let's just talk and answer questions when asked.. which i thought was a good thing .. I pm'ed all the gay gamers about opening up a new thread after the last one closed and in that pm i too noted that we were doing alot of good if not for just opening a dialogue with people who would feel otherwise uncomfortable establishing a dialogues with.

People feel strongly about this issue mainly because we don't fully understand eachothers veiwpoint so i actually enjoyed the discussions we had where people who had staunch positions against us were able to talk intelligently and express themselves.. i've always said there's nothing wrong with sharing your beliefs with others. If both parties can keep an open mind both could learn something.

I consider iwst a friend and not shitting on him with this thread but I guess maybe he got tired of the thread veering so far from his vision? i don't know.
but I don't want people to belive as IWST said this is just our gay space on SRK I'm sure you guy's have seen us post all over the place in various threads it's just not every thread is apropriate to talk about looking at penis :sweat: and so on.
So we can talk here.

Yay us.

The Green Trench Coat
03-14-2007, 03:24 PM
I demand a stright guys thread.


But this is pretty cool too.....

word.


I think ask a straight dude is still open.. search for it.. I actually asked a pretty good question about why are pretty girls idiots and say they want a good guy but they stay with and go after the guys that treat them like shit.

although to be fair.. i know at least one situation where that is true on this side of the fence.

Thought i'd ask gay people about their prefered penis size

no homo


Not really a size queen but a handful is really nice.

Night
03-14-2007, 03:25 PM
In the original thread I asked a question about the average gay guy's porn collection (if straight porn was preferred or if one actively seeked out gay porn more than straight), and got it answered.

One more followup to that: Most straight guys when not downloading porn movies, when downloading collections of pics, it'll usually be nude photoshoots of naked women and when they find a collection, it's "ZOMG HAWT MOAR!!111" followed by foaming at the mouth and right-click save as times 100.

In the previous thread it was answered that some gay guys do download/watch MF sex movies in addition to MM... but if say, there's a very attractive girl who has a solo naked photoshoot, does a gay guy ever go into, or at least get the temptation to go into, right-click save as x 100 mode like a straight guy? Can a collection of say, Aria Giovanni be found on a gay guy's hard drive?

catchafire
03-14-2007, 03:27 PM
My point is this: After the thread evolved into something beyond IWST the focus shifted away from him and became a positive sub-community for people who were gay, bi, or simply just curious to the life and culture of the gay community. The fact that it became so, it suddenly turned into something he didn't intend it to. His view points thereafter, opinions, or ideology of what he wants the thread to be shouldn't have been used to close it- because it is bigger than him. His opinion and advice to Sep should not have been used to close the thread. It was the most mature thread i've ever seen on ANY game forum, and it was positive.

I'm more upset with the admin for closing the thread. If anything, IWST should have asked the thread to be STICKIED instead of deleted.

Kuenai
03-14-2007, 03:29 PM
:lol: Burn. I've had kinda... vibrant hair since before I was attracted to anyone, but... a winner is you. :sweat: If it's any consolation(what?), I'm not totally gay! :tup: LOL. I figure I might as well get used to people thinking it, though... don't really care.

I was just kidding about the hair, as I said before. The only thing I never got were the Liberty Spikes. The BIG ones. A guy I see around MV every now and then has four two-and-a-half feet spikes. so much gel, those things look NASTY....

And bi, I take it?

Waaah, cry more. None of the threads on GD are needed.

Co-sign. Quit whining, fucktard. GD is for shit that has nothing to do with games or anything else. It's for community.

Red-Impact
03-14-2007, 03:31 PM
2007: the year SRK needs a gay thead to make it THAT much more enjoyable.

Good year so far.

iwst99
03-14-2007, 03:36 PM
My point is this: After the thread evolved into something beyond IWST the focus shifted away from him and became a positive sub-community for people who were gay, bi, or simply just curious to the life and culture of the gay community. The fact that it became so, it suddenly turned into something he didn't intend it to. His view points thereafter, opinions, or ideology of what he wants the thread to be shouldn't have been used to close it- because it is bigger than him. His opinion and advice to Sep should not have been used to close the thread. It was the most mature thread i've ever seen on ANY game forum, and it was positive.

I'm more upset with the admin for closing the thread. If anything, IWST should have asked the thread to be STICKIED instead of deleted.

Can you STFU already?

I wanted to break gay stereotypes with my thread. In the end all we did was reinforce the stereotypes I was originally trying to break. I was even a part of it, that's why I feel so shitty. So please STFU and keep your fucking whining to yourself.

If it makes you happy then, I was selfish, i wanted all the attention for me, cause there was so much for me to gain from that thread. Since catchafire was a huge part of that thread I can honestly say he clearly knows what I was all about and respect his opinion entirely. My selfish reasons for creating the thread were crushed by all the other gay SRK members. And catchafire knows because he was such a great supporter and poster in that thread.

Thank you, you have opened my eyes.

iwst99
03-14-2007, 03:43 PM
Also...catchafire posted twice in the thread...on February 3rd...that was over two months ago.

At least his posts were insightful and tell me he cared deeply about the discussion:

"Johnny are you queer?

Would you tap zulu?"

Thanks once again catchafire.

Azagtoth
03-14-2007, 03:46 PM
I demand a stright guys thread.

www.shoryuken.com/forums =P

but if say, there's a very attractive girl who has a solo naked photoshoot, does a gay guy ever go into, or at least get the temptation to go into, right-click save as x 100 mode like a straight guy? Can a collection of say, Aria Giovanni be found on a gay guy's hard drive?

Obviously not. As mentioned before, we only look at MF prons for the guy unless we have the capacity to be attracted to chicks (as some of us do, myself and Mechanica included), but in general, you wouldn't find any solo chick stuff on our portable hard drives or anything... because we're not into chicks. Duh. :looney:

The Green Trench Coat
03-14-2007, 03:47 PM
In the original thread I asked a question about the average gay guy's porn collection (if straight porn was preferred or if one actively seeked out gay porn more than straight), and got it answered.

One more followup to that: Most straight guys when not downloading porn movies, when downloading collections of pics, it'll usually be nude photoshoots of naked women and when they find a collection, it's "ZOMG HAWT MOAR!!111" followed by foaming at the mouth and right-click save as times 100.

In the previous thread it was answered that some gay guys do download/watch MF sex movies in addition to MM... but if say, there's a very attractive girl who has a solo naked photoshoot, does a gay guy ever go into, or at least get the temptation to go into, right-click save as x 100 mode like a straight guy? Can a collection of say, Aria Giovanni be found on a gay guy's hard drive?

I guess it's possible.. I had a pretty good collection of straight porn but only a few vids of lesbian action just cause i was curious to see it a while back

My point is this: After the thread evolved into something beyond IWST the focus shifted away from him and became a positive sub-community for people who were gay, bi, or simply just curious to the life and culture of the gay community. The fact that it became so, it suddenly turned into something he didn't intend it to. His view points thereafter, opinions, or ideology of what he wants the thread to be shouldn't have been used to close it- because it is bigger than him. His opinion and advice to Sep should not have been used to close the thread. It was the most mature thread i've ever seen on ANY game forum, and it was positive.

I'm more upset with the admin for closing the thread. If anything, IWST should have asked the thread to be STICKIED instead of deleted.

Like i said I see where you are comming from .. in that i could see where you could draw that conclusion. What can i say I mean he says that's not his reasoning so that's where that is i guess.

2007: the year SRK needs a gay thead to make it THAT much more enjoyable.

Good year so far.

heh.. it's kinda weird isn't it.

Can you STFU already?

I wanted to break gay stereotypes with my thread. In the end all we did was reinforce the stereotypes I was originally trying to break. I was even a part of it, that's why I feel so shitty.



Uhm .. What?

What stereotypes are you talking about.

OmNiExiZt
03-14-2007, 03:50 PM
What't the deal with kool-aid parties? Who came up with that name and why is it used? I don't see the connection between kool-aid and homosexual activities. Please explain.

*ONEZ*

Mechanica
03-14-2007, 03:50 PM
Kool-aid party? I've never heard of that, and all I see on urbandictionary is an alcohol-related party, and a really funny nickname for braindead lefties (koolaid drinker... lmao, that shit made my day).

I was just kidding about the hair, as I said before.
Hahah, I know.


The only thing I never got were the Liberty Spikes. The BIG ones. A guy I see around MV every now and then has four two-and-a-half feet spikes. so much gel, those things look NASTY....

Hahah, I've done liberty spikes a few times, but yeah... washing them out was terrible. So was sleeping. At least with the 'hawk I could just sleep on my side/stomach (which is my preferred place to sleep anyway).


And bi, I take it?

Yeah, I guess. Every time I'm like "Maybe I'm just gay" I run into some stone fox and I'm like :wow: :clap: ... Currently with a guy, though. :lol: I'm kinda just settling for 'confused' for the short answer at the moment.

My point is this: After the thread evolved into something beyond IWST
The thread wasn't just about him...


the focus shifted away from him and became a positive sub-community for people who were gay, bi, or simply just curious to the life and culture of the gay community.
which is what this thread can do in place of that thread...

The fact that it became so, it suddenly turned into something he didn't intend it to. His view points thereafter, opinions, or ideology of what he wants the thread to be shouldn't have been used to close it- because it is bigger than him.
Who is anyone to say what anyone should or shouldn't do with their own topic? He served the purpose he wanted to, in the beginning of the life's thread, and didn't like where it was going when it was derailed. Simple as that. I don't understand, at all, why it matters, when there's a new thread to do whatever it is you felt wasn't done in the last one.

Thought i'd ask gay people about their prefered penis size

no homo
Like 6 or 7 inches. :confused:

9999
03-14-2007, 03:52 PM
Didnt MagnetiX just do this thread a couple days ago?




Come on, someone had to say it...

The Green Trench Coat
03-14-2007, 03:54 PM
What't the deal with kool-aid parties? Who came up with that name and why is it used? I don't see the connection between kool-aid and homosexual activities. Please explain.

*ONEZ*

Never heard of that.. what's a Kool-aid party"

Zulu
03-14-2007, 04:01 PM
In the original thread I asked a question about the average gay guy's porn collection (if straight porn was preferred or if one actively seeked out gay porn more than straight), and got it answered.

One more followup to that: Most straight guys when not downloading porn movies, when downloading collections of pics, it'll usually be nude photoshoots of naked women and when they find a collection, it's "ZOMG HAWT MOAR!!111" followed by foaming at the mouth and right-click save as times 100.

In the previous thread it was answered that some gay guys do download/watch MF sex movies in addition to MM... but if say, there's a very attractive girl who has a solo naked photoshoot, does a gay guy ever go into, or at least get the temptation to go into, right-click save as x 100 mode like a straight guy? Can a collection of say, Aria Giovanni be found on a gay guy's hard drive?

Rarely do I ever get into solo female porn pics. I don't like porn star type porn. I like porn that stars real people (Sean Cody, Corbin Fisher..for the gay scet). There is one Corbin Fisher porno where this hot guy is fucking the mess out of this hot girl. It's my favorite porno.

And in regards to the gay threads on SRK: We've had a very colorful history..pun not intended: Wayyyyyyyyy back in the day not long after I registered (late 2001) we had the gay threads. It was mostly Green Trench Coat, Drumliner Joe, HVS, myself, The_Beast (who hasn't posted here in ages...I actually think he's bi) and a few others. While never really talking about the state of the gay or anything like that, it was a free-flowing little GD inside GD. We'd talk about music, guy's we thought were hot, and yadda yadda. I actually came out on that thread. Rarely would a straight guy come in and start stuff and if they did it was usually in a joking manner. They were closed however (one was partly due to me and the 'Scoot' nonsense and I think the other just died). Once they closed, most of the gay started posting over on Gamingforce. I had made a gay thread over there where there is a large gay population. It was good for a moment. But GTC and Drumliner Joe who migrated over from SRK, hated me for a fight we had on the dying gay thread on SRK (I can't remember what about). Added to the fact that alot of the posters on Gamingforce were weird 15 year olds crying about stuff, it just didn't work.

I didn't hardly pay any attention to the 'Ask a gay thread' however because it was bound to be filled with 'Do you cum funny colors' type of questions. Sure enough..

Oh..and I prefer guys with 6 or 7 inch cocks. I'm not getting lockjaw on some guys foot long horse dork.

catchafire
03-14-2007, 04:03 PM
I was just kidding about the hair, as I said before. The only thing I never got were the Liberty Spikes. The BIG ones. A guy I see around MV every now and then has four two-and-a-half feet spikes. so much gel, those things look NASTY....

And bi, I take it?



Co-sign. Quit whining, fucktard. GD is for shit that has nothing to do with games or anything else. It's for community.

lol, for the community right?


And it IWST, I posted TWICE in that thread. You should also post what I wrote on Page 9:

"If your dating a guy, what are some of the strategies and tactics you use to keep him in check? I've got my toolkit for the ladies, but i'm wondering if it's the same thing for gay guys.


Have you ever been in a threesome where it's you, a girl, and another guy?


Also, this thread is cool because it helps us to understand what it's like in your world."



And quit telling me to STFU. Unlike you, i'll voice my opinion without asking someone to shut me up like you asked Sep to do.

pffft....

LightningStorm
03-14-2007, 04:10 PM
In the previous thread it was answered that some gay guys do download/watch MF sex movies in addition to MM... but if say, there's a very attractive girl who has a solo naked photoshoot, does a gay guy ever go into, or at least get the temptation to go into, right-click save as x 100 mode like a straight guy? Can a collection of say, Aria Giovanni be found on a gay guy's hard drive?

Not I. However I do have two straight porn video clips. Mostly for the novelty of it. Those are the Paris Hilton video and the Pamela Anderson/Tommy Lee video.

My point is this: After the thread evolved into something beyond IWST the focus shifted away from him and became a positive sub-community for people who were gay, bi, or simply just curious to the life and culture of the gay community. The fact that it became so, it suddenly turned into something he didn't intend it to. His view points thereafter, opinions, or ideology of what he wants the thread to be shouldn't have been used to close it- because it is bigger than him. His opinion and advice to Sep should not have been used to close the thread. It was the most mature thread i've ever seen on ANY game forum, and it was positive.

I'm more upset with the admin for closing the thread. If anything, IWST should have asked the thread to be STICKIED instead of deleted.

I fully agree with the purpose of this post. I guess you are appropriately named "catchafire" cause it seems you are catching hell here for your posts.

*so here's an Ice Cube! lol

In the end all we did was reinforce the stereotypes I was originally trying to break. I was even a part of it, that's why I feel so shitty.


I'm with GTC on this one. WTF you talkin about Willis?

What't the deal with kool-aid parties? Who came up with that name and why is it used? I don't see the connection between kool-aid and homosexual activities. Please explain.

*ONEZ*

I've actually heard of these. But that's the extent of my knowledge on them. I have no idea what they are.

It was mostly Green Trench Coat, Drumliner Joe, HVS, myself, The_Beast (who hasn't posted here in ages...I actually think he's bi) and a few others.


Damn! I'm relegated to "and a few others". :sad: And you remember The_Beast?! (who's not gone by the way just under a different name) and no he's not bi. He's straight. On the Kinsey scale he might be a 1 instead of a 0, but he's still straight.

Mechanica
03-14-2007, 04:11 PM
:zzz:

Okay, so you posted one decent post in the topic. What are you even getting at? This isn't you voicing your opinion, this is you riding on the line between being stubborn and trolling. Okay, so your opinion is that the topic should have stayed open. You've voiced that, and you're not alone. Can we move along now? It doesn't matter. Also, wtf @ strategies and tactics for keeping your significant other in check - you must have some strange relationships.

iwst99
03-14-2007, 04:11 PM
^^

Go you!

Anyways...I'm off GD for good.

Thanks to those that got so attached to the thread. I'm sure this one will be just as good if not better. It's obviously I'm selfish...

BlodiaVulcan5
03-14-2007, 04:14 PM
i got name dropped in the PM, i know i was used as a "positive example" that came out of the discussion it but i feel kinda singled out. dont forget about other people who lurk.

Anyway, I don't think i'll be posting much in this thread anymore, i don't have much to contribute in the way of answering questions or asking any.

The Green Trench Coat
03-14-2007, 04:14 PM
They were closed however (one was partly due to me and the 'Scoot' nonsense and I think the other just died). Once they closed, most of the gay started posting over on Gamingforce. I had made a gay thread over there where there is a large gay population. It was good for a moment. But GTC and Drumliner Joe who migrated over from SRK, hated me for a fight we had on the dying gay thread on SRK (I can't remember what about).

Okay come clean zulu.. tell me..

was that scoot shit real? I remember shin chuji (strongrr) feeding me a bunch of bull when he first was comming to terms with his sexuality. So i come to understand that some times you young'ns like to make stories up. So was it real?

LightningStorm
03-14-2007, 04:17 PM
Okay come clean zulu.. tell me..

was that scoot shit real? I remember shin chuji (strongrr) feeding me a bunch of bull when he first was comming to terms with his sexuality. So i come to understand that some times you young'ns like to make stories up. So was it real?

Truly, that shit coulda been a made for TV movie. :confused:

The Green Trench Coat
03-14-2007, 04:21 PM
i got name dropped in the PM, i know i was used as a "positive example" that came out of the discussion it but i feel kinda singled out. dont forget about other people who lurk.

Anyway, I don't think i'll be posting much in this thread anymore, i don't have much to contribute in the way of answering questions or asking any.


Oh man please please post in the thread heh.:rofl:

Guys .. really. If you don't want to be apart of the thread that's fine, no biggie really.

Truly, that shit coulda been a made for TV movie. :confused:

yeah.. not for nothng.. my money is on made up
do i win, Zulu?

Zulu
03-14-2007, 05:12 PM
Okay come clean zulu.. tell me..

was that scoot shit real? I remember shin chuji (strongrr) feeding me a bunch of bull when he first was comming to terms with his sexuality. So i come to understand that some times you young'ns like to make stories up. So was it real?

I totally forgot about Strongrr.....

And sorry to ruin your hopes and dreams GTC, but the whole Scoot debacle was 100% real. I couldn't make shit like that up. I might as well tell the story for the uninformed:

I talked to Scoot (real name Scott. I was 18, he was 16) online for the longest time back in 2001. Overtime, we exchanged numbers and we talked almost every night for about a month. I think I mentioned SRK a few times talking to him. He registered here, posted in the gay thread and for awhile things were fine. Later on, he was having home issues and said that he wants to run away to LA. I said ok. So we both post our idea on the gay thread on SRK and of course was met with mixed reaction. But mostly, we were met with 'good luck..hope things work out for you two.' I asked my friend Jose to pick Scott up and drop us in downtown LA. We slept on a bench....or attempted to. It was freezing that night. The next day, we went to a library and posted our status on SRK..again with mixed reaction. Nonetheless, we ran around LA without a care in the world. 4 days later, we were caught riding the subway without paying. We both got tickets but since he was also a minor, he was taken away. That was the last time I ever saw him.

Meanwhile, I hadn't had a good sleep in 4 days so I was comptely out of it. I remember sitting at Hollywood and Highland for what I thought was 20 minutes ended up being 3 hours. I walked to a coffee shop and slept. At around 2 that morning, I was walking down Hollywood Blvd groggy as hell when the police stopped me. They asked me where I was going and I couldn't form a sentence. (Btw..Hollywood PD know every homeless person). So they took me to the police station, and called my grandmother. She had put a missing person report on me. I talked to her and said that I wanted to come home. My aunt came, drove me to Union Station, and the next day, I was on the train back home.

My grandmother told me that she had spoken with Scott's mom (I wrote Scott a letter, his mom went through his things and found it, read it, realized that her son is gay, got mad, and filed a missing person report herself). My grandmother told me that Scott's mom was crazy and didn't take what she said too seriously but told of course to never talk to him again. DONE.

THEN..he remembered that he was registered here. I broke up with him online for basically not wanting to deal with the mess that was resulting of dating a 16 year old.

After that, every single level of hell opened up.

He cussed me out..or tried to at least. His parents put up some filter on his computer that blocked ALL LEVELS OF PROFANITY. So whenever I posted, he would basically reply, 'F*ck you Brandon!!! Zulu is a big f*cking d*ck!!!' This lead to some of the most painfully funny moments on SRK. He would make a thread making fun of me, it would get locked, a minute later, making another thread asking why my last thread got locked..and so on and so fourth. This went on for months. He got banned about 3 or 4 different times. It even ventured to Gamingforce where I still posted. It died off at the start of 2003.

But yeah...that was fun times.

Shibuya
03-14-2007, 05:28 PM
i always wonder....what do gay guys like about men....do they like the muscles or the face or the.....dick...
Also....do you enjoy getting fucked in the ass or do you do it cause ur lover likes it (not 1 girl i did in the ass said they enjoyed it just did it cause i wanted it)

Septimus Prime
03-14-2007, 05:28 PM
Wait, so...I did something wrong by honoring a poster's request regarding his own thread? My bad? :rofl:

The Green Trench Coat
03-14-2007, 05:29 PM
dude.. part of me always hoped that was a fake story dude.. sounds like such a nightmare to go thru. But hey.. that which does not kill us.

pherai
03-14-2007, 05:32 PM
Kool-aid party? I've never heard of that, and all I see on urbandictionary is an alcohol-related party, and a really funny nickname for braindead lefties (koolaid drinker... lmao, that shit made my day)

I'm gonna start an Ask a Kool Aid Drinker thread because I actually like Kool Aid, but the term is always used for gay/idiot stereotypes, and not people who just like Kool Aid :sad:

The Green Trench Coat
03-14-2007, 05:32 PM
i always wonder....what do gay guys like about men....do they like the muscles or the face or the.....dick...
Also....do you enjoy getting fucked in the ass or do you do it cause ur lover likes it (not 1 girl i did in the ass said they enjoyed it just did it cause i wanted it)
Different gay guys like different things about the guys they like.

I"m a bear.. I like bears which means i like big husky hairy men. Big burly truck driver/ lumberjack/ strongman types.

others like them slim an slender. I knew one guy who only liked guys that looked like really toned heroin addicts :rofl: but to each there own.

and for your other question.. if you really want to know.. next time you masturbate put a finger in your ass. then you can tell me how you liked it.

Wait, so...I did something wrong by honoring a poster's request regarding his own thread? My bad? :rofl:

Damn you for doing your job so well.
*shakes fist at you*

Shibuya
03-14-2007, 05:35 PM
Different gay guys like different things about the guys they like.

I"m a bear.. I like bears which means i like big husky hairy men. Big burly truck driver/ lumberjack/ strongman types.

others like them slim an slender. I knew one guy who only liked guys that looked like really toned heroin addicts :rofl: but to each there own.

and for your other question.. if you really want to know.. next time you masturbate put a finger in your ass. then you can tell me how you liked it.



Damn you for doing your job so well.
*shakes fist at you*

with that being said...especially the first 3 sentences.....im gonna leave this thread and never come back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

do you use raiden, hugo, zangief and darron mister (SFEX3)

Zulu
03-14-2007, 05:37 PM
dude.. part of me always hoped that was a fake story dude.. sounds like such a nightmare to go thru. But hey.. that which does not kill us.

This was one of those 'in a few years, you are going to look back on this situation and laugh' type of events.

The Green Trench Coat
03-14-2007, 05:38 PM
I'm gonna start an Ask a Kool Aid Drinker thread because I actually like Kool Aid, but the term is always used for gay/idiot stereotypes, and not people who just like Kool Aid :sad:

so .. what is a kool aid party.

kool-aid kicks ass.

Azagtoth
03-14-2007, 05:45 PM
i always wonder....what do gay guys like about men....do they like the muscles or the face or the.....dick...

...Uh, everything?

Not a fan of muscles though, but that's besides the point.

Also....do you enjoy getting fucked in the ass or do you do it cause ur lover likes it (not 1 girl i did in the ass said they enjoyed it just did it cause i wanted it)

Then you suck at anal. =P

Seriously, bottoms and versatile peeps genuinely enjoy it, and there aren't very many purist tops at all (barring people who don't do anal at all and people who've never tried it), so yeah, it's enjoyable.

Mechanica
03-14-2007, 06:00 PM
do you use raiden, hugo, zangief and darron mister (SFEX3)

I play Hugo, but that's because he's a cool character.

Shinto
03-14-2007, 06:12 PM
I play Hugo, but that's because he's a cool character.

:confused:

Damn this thread is so gay......:rofl:

Im sorry I had to say it :arazz:

OmNiExiZt
03-14-2007, 06:15 PM
I was asking about the Kool-aid party thing because I heard about a long time ago. From what I heard. It's supposed to be some kind of downlow thing. Only kool-aid party is used like a code word are something like that. I think I might just be an african american male thing. Who knows...

*ONEZ*

The_Beast
03-14-2007, 06:26 PM
The_Beast (who hasn't posted here in ages...I actually think he's bi)

Lol. Let's go with what LS said....


And you remember The_Beast?! (who's not gone by the way just under a different name) and no he's not bi. He's straight. On the Kinsey scale he might be a 1 instead of a 0, but he's still straight.

Hmmm, a one (1) is listed as "Predominantly heterosexual, only incidentally homosexual". I don't know how I feel about that.......


Daddy stop hitting me!!!!!!!!

Zulu
03-14-2007, 06:34 PM
^ What did New York's mom say?

'I think he has a touch of the gay. Undercover gay lover.'

Lol.

The Green Trench Coat
03-14-2007, 07:38 PM
^ What did New York's mom say?

'I think he has a touch of the gay. Undercover gay lover.'

Lol.

haha.. finally someone else who watches I love new york.
Zulu of all the guys on there belive it or not I find Real so hot. That hair.. the cheekbones the bedroom eyes.. tooo sexy

12pack is okay.. what's weird is i remember seeing him dancing at feathers this gay dance club in jersey a while ago.

The_Beast
03-14-2007, 07:52 PM
GTC, what's up little man? I thought of you the other day (no homo), I was at work and I see this dude walking around the store. I was thinking he looked kind of like my aunt's husband, but then he came closer and I saw the he wasn't.

However, I thought of you because of this shirt he had on. It said "Bears in the wild, Columbia, MO, meet in the middle". I suspect that it was a gay meeting for bears from KC and St Louis as Columbia is about in the middle of those two major metropolises.

The Green Trench Coat
03-14-2007, 07:58 PM
GTC, what's up little man? I thought of you the other day (no homo), I was at work and I see this dude walking around the store. I was thinking he looked kind of like my aunt's husband, but then he came closer and I saw the he wasn't.

However, I thought of you because of this shirt he had on. It said "Bears in the wild, Columbia, MO, meet in the middle". I suspect that it was a gay meeting for bears from KC and St Louis as Columbia is about in the middle of those two major metropolises.

could be hot stuff.

*bearhugs* it suxx i won't see you guys at showdown the one time i actually am gonna make it :(

Mechanica
03-14-2007, 08:05 PM
I'm running out of ideas on what to say when my friends ask me where I'm going, when I'm going to stay at a guy's house. :confused: Unnnh. By that, I mean I'm totally out of ideas. I don't... really feel up to coming out to more people right now, haha, but I'm at a a loss... frustrating. Maybe I just should anyway. I mean, they're close friends, it's mostly just me being awkward.

Ęther
03-14-2007, 09:50 PM
I'm running out of ideas on what to say when my friends ask me where I'm going, when I'm going to stay at a guy's house. :confused: Unnnh. By that, I mean I'm totally out of ideas. I don't... really feel up to coming out to more people right now, haha, but I'm at a a loss... frustrating. Maybe I just should anyway. I mean, they're close friends, it's mostly just me being awkward.
Just grab one of your friends, stick "it" in their butt and when they ask you "WHAT THE FUCK?! ARE YOU GAY?!" you'll say "HELL YEAH!!!1:rock: ". Now you'll have something else to be aquard about.:wgrin:

P.S. This thread is flamboujantly gay.

Zulu
03-14-2007, 10:08 PM
haha.. finally someone else who watches I love new york.
Zulu of all the guys on there belive it or not I find Real so hot. That hair.. the cheekbones the bedroom eyes.. tooo sexy

12pack is okay.. what's weird is i remember seeing him dancing at feathers this gay dance club in jersey a while ago.

Real is hot in the sense that he's smooth. I mean he just carries himself in a very attractive way.

12Pack is..eh. I mean he's a meathead. But he smokes while working out. That's just pure comedy. :rofl:

The only guy who I really thought was hot was Onyx. That guy is a pure man. I have no idea what that means but NY said it and it's the truth.

The Green Trench Coat
03-15-2007, 04:07 AM
Real is hot in the sense that he's smooth. I mean he just carries himself in a very attractive way.

12Pack is..eh. I mean he's a meathead. But he smokes while working out. That's just pure comedy. :rofl:

The only guy who I really thought was hot was Onyx. That guy is a pure man. I have no idea what that means but NY said it and it's the truth.

i think LS would agree with you. trying to find pics, or video.
haha did you see how amorosa was swooning over onyx lol

The Green Trench Coat
03-15-2007, 06:25 AM
onyx - http://horoscopes.aol.com/numerology/i-love-new-york-men?photo=11
trust he looks on the show.

Tango is cute too but i think he's too much of a pussy for me to ever go out with a guy like that. I like Real because like you said he's smooth he carries himself really well..
and I get the sense that, He's all fun and games but if someone tries to get brollic on him He would just destroy them in a fight. HOTT!!

All this and he's not even a bear. I don't discriminate i'll take hotties wherever i find them :):lovin: :wgrin:

The Green Trench Coat
03-15-2007, 05:44 PM
I'm running out of ideas on what to say when my friends ask me where I'm going, when I'm going to stay at a guy's house. :confused: Unnnh. By that, I mean I'm totally out of ideas. I don't... really feel up to coming out to more people right now, haha, but I'm at a a loss... frustrating. Maybe I just should anyway. I mean, they're close friends, it's mostly just me being awkward.

I used to tell people that i was going out of town to visit a friend of mine

Septimus Prime
03-15-2007, 07:18 PM
Why is Toblerone considered gay in the media? I love that stuff.

1
03-15-2007, 07:25 PM
Why is Toblerone considered gay in the media? I love that stuff.

Wanna split a Toblerone?

Oh gosh, yeah...I think I do. Whoo-whoo! Next stop, my thighs!

Mechanica
03-15-2007, 11:34 PM
I used to tell people that i was going out of town to visit a friend of mine
Yeah, that's the jist of what I say... I'm just like "Going to visit a friend." and then they ask who, and I say it's someone they don't know. Which it is, but they still seem skeptical. :lol: I ended up staying an extra day this time, I'm sure that's not helping my cause. :bgrin:

Hahah, thought I'd share this, I don't know what it's from, but it'd make for a cool bear avatar. http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9016/m1173249478970kumagxg4.jpg

I think that the more and more I hear about people's girlfriends, or hang out with couples and see how girls act sometimes, it makes me pretty glad to be able to be attracted to guys. It's so much more chill!

Azagtoth
03-16-2007, 05:21 AM
Hahah, thought I'd share this, I don't know what it's from, but it'd make for a cool bear avatar. http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9016/m1173249478970kumagxg4.jpg

I was actually thinking of asking you to make me an av with that pic a while back when the other thread was still open.

Mechanica
03-16-2007, 05:27 AM
Haha, I will if you want me to.

Azagtoth
03-16-2007, 05:57 AM
Haha, I will if you want me to.

If you could somehow make it work considering the size restraints, that would be dope.

Adam Warlock
03-16-2007, 06:23 AM
Wanna split a Toblerone?

Oh gosh, yeah...I think I do. Whoo-whoo! Next stop, my thighs!

:rofl:

The Green Trench Coat
03-16-2007, 07:01 AM
Hahah, thought I'd share this, I don't know what it's from, but it'd make for a cool bear avatar. http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9016/m1173249478970kumagxg4.jpg


:arazz:

I'm instantly jealous!

Seriously I wish i could paint like that.. though looks like that was done in watercolors. Hmmm.. actually you know what this weekend i'm going to try to do that same pic but in my style to see if I can learn something from the way that guy/girl did theres. I'll show you how it comes out if i can do it.. but i'm not gonna shit on this persons work .. it's impressive and the bear is adorable. I just wish i could do work that good :sad: :sad: :wonder:

So i've got the Texas Bear thing comming up and I have a few of my images that are gonna be showcased that's cool.. but i everytime i look back at my work i always wanna change something.. i always look and say hmm maybe i can change lighting here.. or accent there..
The local bear group here in nyc made a gallery of all my "bear" work and showcased it .. it was intresting but I didn't realize they were all going to be dancing in there also. so if you can imagine all my art was on the walls of the room and there was like dance party in the center of the room.

I didn't realize that was how it was gonna be at first so i was like :confused:
some of my pics was held up by duct tape and it got so hot in the dance party that the glue on the duct tape started melting and a few of my peices fell lol.

All in all it was a good expeirence cause when i saw all my art work up there i got so nervous.. but i got through it.

DrumlinerJoe
03-16-2007, 12:09 PM
Phew, it took like a page and a half but all the drama queen bullshit finally got resolved.

Anyway I'm callin that hot boy later tonight. I have to work though so it sucks, but he'll be there anyway.

The Green Trench Coat
03-16-2007, 12:31 PM
Phew, it took like a page and a half but all the drama queen bullshit finally got resolved.

Anyway I'm callin that hot boy later tonight. I have to work though so it sucks, but he'll be there anyway.

Sweet go get'em joe. I'll call you tommorrow.

DrumlinerJoe
03-16-2007, 01:27 PM
I'm still curious as to whatever happened to Biolink and his buddy.

BlodiaVulcan5
03-16-2007, 01:36 PM
If you could somehow make it work considering the size restraints, that would be dope.

->here<- (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/Terrain/arcadefighterbear.gif)

The Green Trench Coat
03-16-2007, 02:15 PM
I'm still curious as to whatever happened to Biolink and his buddy.

yeah i wonder where biolink is.

he's our accountabila-buddy. (southpark refference)

Mechanica
03-16-2007, 03:39 PM
If you could somehow make it work considering the size restraints, that would be dope.

I can't get the arcade cab part in it, really (if I was better at animations I could do it, but the filesize would be too big with my current animation skillz), but there's somethin'. *shrug*

I've seen biolink out and about... PM him or something, haha. I too am curious.

EDIT: http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6841/kumaazagtoth3lw8.gif <--this one is animated but the properties claim it's 20.0kb on disk, but it says a little less otherwise, so I don't know... try it. I'm premium so I can't really tell if it'll work.

Azagtoth
03-16-2007, 04:07 PM
Mech: Thanks, dude. Check out the one blodia did though; he got the stick in, though it looks kind of awkward.

EDIT: Nevermind. It works. Thanks again, guys. =D

DrumlinerJoe
03-16-2007, 04:12 PM
Who wants to make me a sexy Rogue AV?

Mechanica
03-16-2007, 04:56 PM
u got sexy rogue pix????//

DrumlinerJoe
03-16-2007, 04:57 PM
I'll have to hit ya'll up with them later. Taking off from work right now. Peace playas.

terracotta
03-16-2007, 07:14 PM
i've got a straight friend living with a gay housemate. both are guys.

is that.. umh.. an advisable situation to be in?

Zulu
03-16-2007, 07:29 PM
Very.

The Green Trench Coat
03-16-2007, 07:35 PM
i've got a straight friend living with a gay housemate. both are guys.

is that.. umh.. an advisable situation to be in?

sure why wouldnt it be..

Mechanica
03-16-2007, 08:05 PM
Yeah... if your friend trusts the guy enough to live with him, he's probably not the kind of idiot who would try desperately to seduce a straight guy, or something.

Wolfkiller
03-16-2007, 08:49 PM
i always wonder....what do gay guys like about men....do they like the muscles or the face or the.....dick...
Also....do you enjoy getting fucked in the ass or do you do it cause ur lover likes it (not 1 girl i did in the ass said they enjoyed it just did it cause i wanted it)

My ex LOVED that shit. (No homo! SHE loved it!)

*Raises hand*

What's with so many gay dudes acting so....gay? You know what I mean, talking with a lisp and calling everything FABULOUS!!! Do most gay guys actually go for that type of thing? I have the same question with lesbians who date chicks that go out of their way to look like men. It boggles my mind.

I have absolutely no problem with homosexuals, but I can't stand flamers (or any other stereotype based personality, like "gangstas" for example).

Oh and I ask this to all the girls I know, but it works in here too:
Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp?
Brad Pitt is the hottest man on the planet. No homo!

Septimus Prime
03-16-2007, 09:44 PM
Why wasn't my Toblerone question answered? That's so straight of you guys. :sad:

Azagtoth
03-17-2007, 12:54 AM
Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp?
Brad Pitt is the hottest man on the planet. No homo!

Neither. They suck.

Mechanica
03-17-2007, 01:08 AM
What's with so many gay dudes acting so....gay?

. . .

I have absolutely no problem with homosexuals, but I can't stand flamers

Dude, you got me, and same. :lol: I really cannot explain why people act like that.

I also don't really think brad pitt or johnny depp are hot, but I think brad pitt is cooler. Maybe just because of fight club...

The Green Trench Coat
03-17-2007, 04:05 AM
Why wasn't my Toblerone question answered? That's so straight of you guys. :sad:

uh... it's the most phallicaly shaped of the candy bars?

i've never in my life had one.. but i think that it's or was marketed for ladies. I'll wiki it later and find out if that's true

The Green Trench Coat
03-17-2007, 04:41 AM
My ex LOVED that shit. (No homo! SHE loved it!)

*Raises hand*

What's with so many gay dudes acting so....gay? You know what I mean, talking with a lisp and calling everything FABULOUS!!! Do most gay guys actually go for that type of thing? I have the same question with lesbians who date chicks that go out of their way to look like men. It boggles my mind.

I have absolutely no problem with homosexuals, but I can't stand flamers (or any other stereotype based personality, like "gangstas" for example).

Oh and I ask this to all the girls I know, but it works in here too:
Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp?
Brad Pitt is the hottest man on the planet. No homo!

heh.. so heres the thing about flamers..

First off .. not all flamers are actually gay. Mind boggling i know but it's true.

Most times they don't even know they are flaming.I know a guy who every body calls a flame and i asked him one day about it .. why does he .. well flame? He had no idea that i was even talking about him.

Other than that you have to remember that comming out experiences are different for everyone sometimes you are left with nobody but females in your support group It's a safe assumption that a person that experienced this may feel most comfortable in a gay persona that is more female.

All of this is just a guess. Personally i don't mind a flamer theres a guy that goes to CF that is a bit of a flame and I see him there every so often. Good lookin guy but snazzy dresser. I don't mind flamers as long as it doesnt hide who you are. If it's totally the way you was raised than be you.. same with the whole "thug" mentality.. problem is if your an asian cat with a fitted on and a snorkel don't try to run up on me talking all that hard shit.


brad and johnny are good looking but i'd probably kick both out of bed.. they arent husky enough for my tastes.. and It's rare that i go for guys that thin.

Azagtoth
03-17-2007, 05:02 AM
It's rare that i go for guys that thin.

No chub, no love.

LightningStorm
03-17-2007, 10:20 AM
What's with so many gay dudes acting so....gay? You know what I mean, talking with a lisp and calling everything FABULOUS!!! Do most gay guys actually go for that type of thing? I have the same question with lesbians who date chicks that go out of their way to look like men. It boggles my mind.

I have absolutely no problem with homosexuals, but I can't stand flamers (or any other stereotype based personality, like "gangstas" for example).

GTC answered this mostly. I just want to add that the 'flamers' aren't nearly the majority of gay men. They are just the ones who are quite obvious about it all so when you see them you know (or at least have a pretty damned good idea) that they are gay. If you saw a 'normal' guy you obviously assume heterosexuality. This is where you have erred. I guarantee you have seen a hell of a lot more "normal" gay men than you have flamers, the difference is that you just didn't know that those guys were gay, where as you did with the flamers.

As for me, I don't have a problem with the flamers, generically speaking (I think people should be themselves regardless), but I wouldn't date one as that personality type doesn't mesh with my own.


Oh and I ask this to all the girls I know, but it works in here too:
Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp?
Brad Pitt is the hottest man on the planet. No homo!

As (apparently) the only gay guy on this board who likes this body type, I'll answer this one. My answer is .... YES. But if I HAD to choose, probably Brad (when he's not doing the anorexic-smoker look).

Wolfkiller
03-17-2007, 11:03 AM
GTC answered this mostly. I just want to add that the 'flamers' aren't nearly the majority of gay men. They are just the ones who are quite obvious about it all so when you see them you know (or at least have a pretty damned good idea) that they are gay. If you saw a 'normal' guy you obviously assume heterosexuality. This is where you have erred. I guarantee you have seen a hell of a lot more "normal" gay men than you have flamers, the difference is that you just didn't know that those guys were gay, where as you did with the flamers.

See my beef with flamers is I personally feel they aren't being themselves, they are portraying a stereotype to get attention. This dude in high school for example was a "normal" average dude freshman year. Didn't talk all goofy or anything like that. Next year, came out of the closet and started talking like that rollerblading hooker in Reno 911.
Now Brad Pitt love aside, I'm straight. I don't go out of my way to act like I'm some super manly "FUCK YEAH LET'S WATCH FOOTBALL BECAUSE I LOVE PUSSY AND BEER WHOO!" typical straight guy though.
Like I said, I have no problem with gay guys. Just can't stand people who feel the need to act like stereotypes based off their sexual gender or music then enjoy (that applies to all forms of music, not just gangsta rap by the way. Just the easier to explain my point).

You guys are all hella straight by the way for not showing the love to Brad Pitt. :arazz:

LightningStorm
03-17-2007, 12:32 PM
See my beef with flamers is I personally feel they aren't being themselves, they are portraying a stereotype to get attention.


Indeed. And some of them definitely are being fake. But we have to realize some are not. The problem of course is how do I know they are being fake? All I can do is accept that this is who they are for now and look past it.

Also, pretending to be something a person isn't is also a way of being themselves. For if you (the general you not the literal you) are a person who is fake and lives your life based on others then that is who you are. So a fake person is also being themselves, even if they aren't being themselves in a more literal sense.

DrumlinerJoe
03-17-2007, 03:43 PM
See my beef with flamers is I personally feel they aren't being themselves, they are portraying a stereotype to get attention. This dude in high school for example was a "normal" average dude freshman year. Didn't talk all goofy or anything like that. Next year, came out of the closet and started talking like that rollerblading hooker in Reno 911.
Now Brad Pitt love aside, I'm straight. I don't go out of my way to act like I'm some super manly "FUCK YEAH LET'S WATCH FOOTBALL BECAUSE I LOVE PUSSY AND BEER WHOO!" typical straight guy though.
Like I said, I have no problem with gay guys. Just can't stand people who feel the need to act like stereotypes based off their sexual gender or music then enjoy (that applies to all forms of music, not just gangsta rap by the way. Just the easier to explain my point).

You guys are all hella straight by the way for not showing the love to Brad Pitt. :arazz:

I don't see why you would have any beef with the way a guy acts when it has nothing to do with you. I mean really, this dude over here wears a midriff shirt and body glitter, who cares. Flamers aren't my thing really, don't find them attractive at all, but I could give a crap how they act. I honestly don't think it's for attention because it never garners any positive attention that I can think of.

And everything's already been said about how these dudes aren't the majority, just the most noticeable.

And Brad Pitt's okay, just not really my style.

doujinshi_2001
03-17-2007, 11:06 PM
ne-yo. gay or straight?

merdoc
03-17-2007, 11:10 PM
How Many Gays Does It Take To Screw A Light bulb?

The Green Trench Coat
03-18-2007, 05:37 AM
ne-yo. gay or straight?

i heard the rumors.

How Many Gays Does It Take To Screw A Light bulb?

3

1 to screw in the light bulb

2 to make innuendo about the screwing motion of the lightbulb into the socket.



next question

Wolfkiller
03-18-2007, 10:46 AM
I don't see why you would have any beef with the way a guy acts when it has nothing to do with you.

Not so much a beef I guess, just irritates me. Not like I'd pick a fight with someone for being annoying or anything like that. That goes for anyone being loud and obnoxious in public, not just flamers.

Khaotika!
03-18-2007, 11:58 AM
he's our accountabila-buddy. (southpark refference)

lol I wondered if you'd seen that or not.

BTW, have you gotten any of my emails? If not, I think I found out why.

The Green Trench Coat
03-18-2007, 12:14 PM
lol I wondered if you'd seen that or not.

BTW, have you gotten any of my emails? If not, I think I found out why.


none dude.. ive sent a couple but never heard back, what's good?

*bearhugs*

Zulu
03-18-2007, 12:15 PM
ne-yo. gay or straight?

No matter..he's ugly.

Related...anyone remember the rumor a few years ago about how Lil Bow Wow got raped in the ass by his bodyguard and it took 23 stitches to sew his asshole shut?

:looney:

The Green Trench Coat
03-18-2007, 12:19 PM
No matter..he's ugly.

Related...anyone remember the rumor a few years ago about how Lil Bow Wow got raped in the ass by his bodyguard and it took 23 stitches to sew his asshole shut?

:looney:


haha i heard that rumor.

i also heard that ciara is a hemaprodite. I don't know what's true.

akumachan
03-18-2007, 02:23 PM
man i remember a looooooong ass time ago i met you at SHGL, and all i could remember was "jesus christ this is the HUGEST gay guy ive ever seen".

if my memory serves me correct.. you played makoto.

OLD SCHOOL FOE LYFE



treu!!!


When i met GTC, i was like GOT-DAAYM!!! His biceps were like the size of my thighs!!!

OMG!!




anyway, GTC!!!! REALLLLY long time no chat!!! How are you? Doing well I hope?

Mechanica
03-18-2007, 03:35 PM
Everyone's heard the bow wow rumor, except I never heard the part about the stitches. Hah.

The Green Trench Coat
03-18-2007, 03:44 PM
treu!!!


When i met GTC, i was like GOT-DAAYM!!! His biceps were like the size of my thighs!!!

OMG!!




anyway, GTC!!!! REALLLLY long time no chat!!! How are you? Doing well I hope?

whoa... is it really you..

*BEARHUGS* very long time no chat. I"m doing okay hope you are well too.

The Green Trench Coat
03-18-2007, 04:02 PM
man i remember a looooooong ass time ago i met you at SHGL, and all i could remember was "jesus christ this is the HUGEST gay guy ive ever seen".

if my memory serves me correct.. you played makoto.

OLD SCHOOL FOE LYFE

heh sorry i didnt reply earlier.. yep that was me and yes I'm a makoto player.. oldschool :)

akumachan
03-18-2007, 04:15 PM
whoa... is it really you..

*BEARHUGS* very long time no chat. I"m doing okay hope you are well too.

*passes out from lack of oxygen from bearhug* :wasted:



*wakes up five minutes later*

doing well GTC. married no kids hopefully moving out of california next year and buying a house in a couple of years.

The Green Trench Coat
03-18-2007, 04:49 PM
*passes out from lack of oxygen from bearhug* :wasted:



*wakes up five minutes later*

doing well GTC. married no kids hopefully moving out of california next year and buying a house in a couple of years.

Achan.. as always woman with a plan. Congrats on getting married sweetie. that's so awesome..

Azagtoth
03-18-2007, 05:42 PM
Related...anyone remember the rumor a few years ago about how Lil Bow Wow got raped in the ass by his bodyguard and it took 23 stitches to sew his asshole shut?

23 stitches? WTF did he get double teamed by the bodyguard and a horse?

The Green Trench Coat
03-19-2007, 06:37 AM
23 stitches? WTF did he get double teamed by the bodyguard and a horse?

Maybe his bodyguard was a minotaur?

Adam Warlock
03-19-2007, 06:47 AM
No chub, no love.

You dude's sound like I do chasing chicks. A big becky can get it in a heartbeat.

The Green Trench Coat
03-19-2007, 07:50 AM
You dude's sound like I do chasing chicks. A big becky can get it in a heartbeat.

are you a thin dude?


just curious.
Also I know alot of straight guys that are into big girls, i figure these guys are what bears/bearlovers are to the gay world.

What's the deal.. big yum yums? Even when i went out with girls I liked thickness

Mechanica
03-19-2007, 05:40 PM
Enough of this second page, what is this? :razz:

So, I have that one real life friend I've told, since she'd liked me for so long... Anyway, she dumped her boyfriend kinda recently and our other friend was like "You should get with [name]. She's wanted to for a while..." and I just laughed a lot in my head, and was like "...yeah...." or something not very affirmative. Hahah, check out this myspace message from the friend... it was some dumb myspace bulletin where you copy pasta each letter and spell your name, and each letter has some 'fact' about you... E L and I were all about me being great in bed... - so hey elias.
since you think im cute...and i think youre cute...
and were both really good in bed...
we should maybe have sex?
for experimental reasons ofcourse.
:]
hahaha

:lol: If the offer remains at some later date, I feel like it would be my duty to the straight guy to tap that just because of all of you that don't get offered random no-strings-attached sex. Am I right in thinking so, heteroz?

My friend who left for Arizona the other day, wanted me to come with him... some of the reasons involved that I could maybe get a girlfriend down there. It's hard to come up to a response with that, when the friend is your one token homophobic friend. I was like, "Haha, I'd never want a girlfriend so far away..." and then he and our other friend were like "Well you could just have a one night stand!" :looney:

These little awkward occurances are amusing. It'd be nice to be able to avoid them, but for the moment I'm chill with just laughing at them.

Azagtoth
03-19-2007, 06:18 PM
big yum yums?

Word.

AW: Big Becky and Big Bobby can both get at me. =P

The Green Trench Coat
03-19-2007, 07:14 PM
I feel like it would be my duty to the straight guy to tap that just because of all of you that don't get offered random no-strings-attached sex. Am I right in thinking so, heteroz?


it happens alot to me and my bf.

Zachman
03-19-2007, 08:16 PM
No matter..he's ugly.

Related...anyone remember the rumor a few years ago about how Lil Bow Wow got raped in the ass by his bodyguard and it took 23 stitches to sew his asshole shut?

:looney:

:rofl: :rofl:

Mechanica
03-19-2007, 08:57 PM
it happens alot to me and my bf.

From women? I'm not surprised, but at the same time, why? :lol: "He's gay? Now I want to have random sex with him!"

Bah, stupid boeing is working my man like a dog. :sad: Very little free time.

It just occured to me that for a while, I kind of took pride in being a straight guy that didn't have sex as the #1 thing on my mind/being less of a pervert than other guys... I was like "Cool. Chicks won't think I'm as much of a douche as most guys." ...and while that still remains true, I realize now, why.

Zulu
03-19-2007, 10:51 PM
23 stitches? WTF did he get double teamed by the bodyguard and a horse?


*shrugs*

I've always pictured a big, greasy, Craig Markuk looking fool marauding Bow Wow's ass to the point where sparks are flying everywhere.

LightningStorm
03-20-2007, 07:42 AM
RE: Lil Bow Wow
http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/bowwow.htm

Adam Warlock
03-20-2007, 07:51 AM
are you a thin dude?


just curious.
Also I know alot of straight guys that are into big girls, i figure these guys are what bears/bearlovers are to the gay world.

What's the deal.. big yum yums? Even when i went out with girls I liked thickness

Not so thin anymore. I used to be. I was 6'1" 172 up until college. Now I'm 220. It's just something about a big girl that makes me lose it. I guess in that sense, I have a *minute* understanding of being attracted to someone society doesn't accept. My boys used to see me and be like "haha you're with a big girl." Shit used to bother me, and then I came to terms with it and I was like fuck what anyone else thinks. Now when they're all "haha you're with a big girl." I'm all "haha you're by yourself"

Az: Big becky is funny for so many reasons. The one woman I clicked with on so many levels harder than anyone was literally a Big Becky (incidentally, she didn't find it funny that Becky is slang for white girl lol). Next time I'm in Miami you can show me where the bigguns are. Big Bobby is all yours though.

doujinshi_2001
03-20-2007, 08:04 AM
haha amp youre too good. and for anyone who watches i love ny real got eliminated last night. im not gay but watching this show is way too funny seeing all these dudes fight over fuckin ny of all girls lol

The Green Trench Coat
03-20-2007, 08:05 AM
From women? I'm not surprised, but at the same time, why? :lol: "He's gay? Now I want to have random sex with him!"

Bah, stupid boeing is working my man like a dog. :sad: Very little free time.

It just occured to me that for a while, I kind of took pride in being a straight guy that didn't have sex as the #1 thing on my mind/being less of a pervert than other guys... I was like "Cool. Chicks won't think I'm as much of a douche as most guys." ...and while that still remains true, I realize now, why.

as for why it happens.. i dont' know.. i mean I guess some girls just feel so comfortable around gay guys that they just feel that we're saftey dick.. like incase of emergency break glass.

I told you guys before about this model chick that is like out grace from will and grace. We usually have our door unlocked cause like really .. if anyone broke in .. i guarantee they won't break out.. but anyway she usually comes in raids our fridge and then cuddles on the couch with us. But lately she's got this habit of getting into bed inbetween me and my bf and just ranting about her prob's.

She does this and 2 other girls are like this as well but they dont live in the building but still. independantly we get offered poon tang pretty frequently.
and i'm only using frequently in the sense of I hear it doesn't happen alot in the straight world.

Adam Warlock
03-20-2007, 08:14 AM
She does this and 2 other girls are like this as well but they dont live in the building but still. independantly we get offered poon tang pretty frequently.
and i'm only using frequently in the sense of I hear it doesn't happen alot in the straight world.

Accept and let me be your stunt double. As soon as the lights go out "Enter the Warlock"

The Green Trench Coat
03-20-2007, 08:17 AM
Not so thin anymore. I used to be. I was 6'1" 172 up until college. Now I'm 220. It's just something about a big girl that makes me lose it. I guess in that sense, I have a *minute* understanding of being attracted to someone society doesn't accept. My boys used to see me and be like "haha you're with a big girl." Shit used to bother me, and then I came to terms with it and I was like fuck what anyone else thinks. Now when they're all "haha you're with a big girl." I'm all "haha you're by yourself"

Az: Big becky is funny for so many reasons. The one woman I clicked with on so many levels harder than anyone was literally a Big Becky (incidentally, she didn't find it funny that Becky is slang for white girl lol). Next time I'm in Miami you can show me where the bigguns are. Big Bobby is all yours though.

I'll meet you guys down there.. Bear Billy is all mine ;)

haha amp youre too good. and for anyone who watches i love ny real got eliminated last night. im not gay but watching this show is way too funny seeing all these dudes fight over fuckin ny of all girls lol

I Know..


Seriously.. she's a terrible actress. All the fake crying.. i felt bad for real cause i really think he wanted to be with her. Chance is soft.. but it looks like he's gonna get gully with it on tango.

oh and LOL @ "Chance is crying, but soldiers cry, doves cry, and even dogs cry.. so.. you know."
LOLOLOL what a dumb ho

I cant stand tango. he's Okay looking... but that hat to the side that fake swagger when he walks and that whole wanna be smooth attitude is just ugh. I would've eliminated much earlier in the show. Real should just be greatful he's a great catch and anyways cant turn a hoe into a housewife, hoes don't act right. She's does hoe activities with hoe tendencies hoes are her friends hoes are her enemies.

Really I would pay like 100 dollars for if someone ever made this dvd:
New york
sista patterson
Krazie
Boots
Bucky
Delishous
Buck wild

All in a room, No rules no weapons, and on a big tv screen they are showing ny talking shit about everyone in a loop and krazie singing.
Even if the vid lasted 5 minutes I would pay top dollar for it.

Accept and let me be your stunt double. As soon as the lights go out "Enter the Warlock"

No lie my hetero friend and i was seriously going to do that to this girl that wouldn't leave me alone. She was this peruvian hottie that kept inviting me over for a sleepover. But you could tell that she's gonna go super posessive after the sex is over she's just that type. so we ended up not doing it.

I'm terrible i know.

Adam Warlock
03-20-2007, 09:33 AM
haha amp youre too good. and for anyone who watches i love ny real got eliminated last night. im not gay but watching this show is way too funny seeing all these dudes fight over fuckin ny of all girls lol

Flavor of love I watched. i love New york only gets play if a female is watching it in my living room lol.

By the way, I figured I'd add something to this thread. here's Carlos (doujinshi) playing with his wee. (http://s147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/ant_warlock/?action=view&current=MVI_0400.flv)

doujinshi_2001
03-20-2007, 10:28 AM
hahahaha you niggas recorded me while i was playin?! haha i dont care that game is way to good

Adam Warlock
03-20-2007, 10:29 AM
You and bumbaclot on the phone were hilarious.

The Green Trench Coat
03-20-2007, 10:39 AM
that's a good sized livingroom.

Mechanica
03-20-2007, 11:29 AM
Hahahaha, random ass wii playing. What game is that?

as for why it happens.. i dont' know.. i mean I guess some girls just feel so comfortable around gay guys that they just feel that we're saftey dick.. like incase of emergency break glass.


:rofl: :clap: Well here's hopin' I get invited to some poon at a time when I'm actually single.

doujinshi_2001
03-20-2007, 11:31 AM
wario ware shyt is fuckin crack

Mechanica
03-20-2007, 11:38 AM
Hahaha, ah, right on. The GC version of that game wasn't exactly top tier, but I bet the wii one is beast.

DrumlinerJoe
03-20-2007, 12:18 PM
I went on a date with that guy, it was all right, pretty laid back. He's a lot more timid than I thought he'd be. Seems nice enough though. Our schedules are pretty incompatable at the moment, he works when I don't and vice versa. Oh well, we'll see what happens.

The Green Trench Coat
03-20-2007, 01:06 PM
I went on a date with that guy, it was all right, pretty laid back. He's a lot more timid than I thought he'd be. Seems nice enough though. Our schedules are pretty incompatable at the moment, he works when I don't and vice versa. Oh well, we'll see what happens.

dude.. don't tell me it was like forced conversation and all that.. i hate that feeling .. I hate when you go out with someone and it's like they are reading off a list of questions for you.. instead of actually conversating with you. I mean i know that alot of times that's a nervous thing.. so joe maybe next time things will flow a little better and you guys will have more fun.

DrumlinerJoe
03-20-2007, 01:54 PM
Well we were watching a movie and did most of the talking before and after. And yeah there's gonna be a second date to see if there really is chemistry or not. If not then I think at least there should be a decent lay out of it. At this point I'm good with either scenario.

And I played the SA folks this weekend at Marvel. I hadn't had time to just waste a night away with gaming and I'm happy to say I still haven't lost my edge. Though everyone else is getting better and I can't tear though them like I used to.

The Green Trench Coat
03-20-2007, 02:04 PM
Well we were watching a movie and did most of the talking before and after. And yeah there's gonna be a second date to see if there really is chemistry or not. If not then I think at least there should be a decent lay out of it. At this point I'm good with either scenario.

And I played the SA folks this weekend at Marvel. I hadn't had time to just waste a night away with gaming and I'm happy to say I still haven't lost my edge. Though everyone else is getting better and I can't tear though them like I used to.

Still got it.


I need to get more practice in with my makoto at cf .. i havent had anytime to do anything. Hey joe i'm in dallas this thursday to sunday. But i hear the weather there is gonna be crummy all weekend. :sad: I gotta try to find where the locals play in dallas. Last time i was out there i went to some arcade in some mall and destroyed people in third strike but even killed it in MARVEL!!! and that's not even my game i've got a pretty basic.. eh.. well i guess the only thing i have in marvel is I know how to do cool tricks.. but i cant fight in marvel for shit. By cool tricks i mean I can do like combo continuations from the floor and shit like cap com's and cammy's like i can do a cool tron/sentinal trap that works well...

and i can play mvc2 with one hand behind my back for when i want to win a bet. But i can only play one handed on a standard cabinet and i have to be using Juggernaught/tron/cable. But i only do that when i want to show off.

other than that i suck i need help in marvel desperately.. maybe i should pay some pro like 300 for lessons or something.

DrumlinerJoe
03-20-2007, 02:09 PM
Damn, Dallas is like a good 4 - 5 hour drive from me. I don't know wehre the locals play though so you could probably look it up on the Southwestern thread.

The Green Trench Coat
03-20-2007, 07:40 PM
Damn, Dallas is like a good 4 - 5 hour drive from me. I don't know wehre the locals play though so you could probably look it up on the Southwestern thread.

oh i know its far I'll look it up.

Kuenai
03-21-2007, 12:25 AM
Yeah, I guess. Every time I'm like "Maybe I'm just gay" I run into some stone fox and I'm like :wow: :clap: ... Currently with a guy, though. :lol: I'm kinda just settling for 'confused' for the short answer at the moment.

I take a look around every now and then and think "That guy's pretty good-looking. Huh... :confused:" And wonder what being bi would really entail. Always have been curious, but I've just never had the drive, I suppose. I don't think you're that confused until you take an objective view of the situation. Feel it, don't think it. That's how I wrapped up any "phases" I've had.


Wow... this thead's going strong, eh? I would've thought the death of the last one would put some closure down. I think this thread needs a perma-link to a gay/bisexual specific community forum or something. Somewhere more personally rewarding- feedback from more than the 4-5 gay guys that post often here and more open to members.

Unrelated- anyone here heard of NMBLA? WTF? It's ancient Greece all over again! If this has been discussed before, I apologize. But still, I personally think the organization is too over-the-top. Anybody know more about it/interesting facts/members?

Mechanica
03-21-2007, 12:56 AM
I don't think you're that confused until you take an objective view of the situation. Feel it, don't think it. That's how I wrapped up any "phases" I've had.

Well, I'm pretty much only confused when people ask me to lump myself into one of the categories. :razz: I googled the nmbla and I'm now curious, too. Huh.

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAMBLA

Weird... they do seem to be trying to start people a little early, even though I'm definitely down with the man boy love idea. :lovin: I was 17 when I hooked up with the guy I'm with now...

The Green Trench Coat
03-21-2007, 06:37 AM
I take a look around every now and then and think "That guy's pretty good-looking. Huh... :confused:" And wonder what being bi would really entail. Always have been curious, but I've just never had the drive, I suppose. I don't think you're that confused until you take an objective view of the situation. Feel it, don't think it. That's how I wrapped up any "phases" I've had.


personally i think people need to spend less time trying to label themselves. Gay straight bi bi-curious.. were all looking for someone to make us happy. so why cant it be single or not single :wgrin:


Wow... this thead's going strong, eh? I would've thought the death of the last one would put some closure down. I think this thread needs a perma-link to a gay/bisexual specific community forum or something. Somewhere more personally rewarding- feedback from more than the 4-5 gay guys that post often here and more open to members.


Hmm.. i think the thread is cool where it's at now. I mean if we did a "perma-link" to some gay/bi site. we'd be closed real soon as i'm sure the people posting in it wouldn't follow the rules of srk. Plus i mean this thread is here for questions and discussion it's cool the way it is. for now atleast..

but your thinking I like that :lovin: *bearhugs*


Unrelated- anyone here heard of NMBLA? WTF? It's ancient Greece all over again! If this has been discussed before, I apologize. But still, I personally think the organization is too over-the-top. Anybody know more about it/interesting facts/members?

So I'm very much against nambla. but i'd be against it if it was namgla as well. You like what you like and you can do what you want but both should be 2 consenting parties of sound mind. I'm not convinced that 7-14 year old boys..or girls are of sound mind to engage in sexual activity. That's why i'm against it.

.Free.
03-21-2007, 08:39 PM
when you give your boyfriend or guy a bj after a long day does his dick smell real bad and u gag? just curious how my GF feels after a long day and my balls have been sweaty.

Azagtoth
03-22-2007, 02:34 AM
when you give your boyfriend or guy a bj after a long day does his dick smell real bad and u gag? just curious how my GF feels after a long day and my balls have been sweaty.

This is what showers are for.

Mechanica
03-22-2007, 07:21 AM
Um, yeah. If it smelled real bad and made me gag (haha, my man has better hygiene than that), I'd be like "Umm, let's take a shower."

Hahah, last night he complimented me and told me that he really liked how I didn't seem/act gay - that I act like a guy, smile like a guy, etc. :bgrin:

My premium dies tomorrow. :sad:

DrumlinerJoe
03-22-2007, 12:28 PM
On the bi subject, I occasionally run into a chica and I'm like damn, she's fine as hell. But my body can never react. I've been to titty bars and all that too and it's the same thing. Oh well.

Mechanica
03-22-2007, 01:40 PM
Oh joy. So I had this old circle of friends from PSO (Phantasy Star Online) back in the day. I recently talked to the girl of the crew, who used to be awesome, open-minded, and just cool in general.

I talked to her on AIM today. I guess she's converted to Christianity, married someone from her work, and has an 11 month old kid. Wow.

Then came the fun part, when she asked me what was new with me, I just had to mention the word boyfriend. I had to. Then she had to make sure that I really was a guy, and that she hadn't just been assuming all along.

orange sharpies: hahah
orange sharpies: no, I'm a guy

retard: well...why did you decide to be gay?

(12:56:12) orange sharpies: heh
(12:56:19) orange sharpies: i didn't
(12:58:58) orange sharpies: sorry but it's not a decision

retard: Everything that we do in life is a choice.
retard: I don't believe in phych stuff. Human relationships are meant to be between a man and a woman.

orange sharpies: well duh, you're christian...

retard: We each sin, but we also each choose the sin we commit. I don't think that any sin is worse than another, but each has its own punishment and consequence

orange sharpies: everything we do in life is a choice, yes
orange sharpies: but you don't choose who you're attracted to

retard: You choose to act on it

orange sharpies: that's nice that you think that as long as you don't push it onto me
orange sharpies: I jsut SAID that
orange sharpies: I know that

retard: But even thinking about it is a sin...and the only way to step away from it is to submit to God in your life and ask Him to take away the urge. I'm not saying this to be mean or anything, but because I care...

retard: I gotta go to the store, I'll talk to you later

orange sharpies: lol whatever


I think I might just block her and remember her as the old her.

---

Anyway, maybe I'm the same way, I don't know. I've never had a girlfriend. I almost tried to date this girl from Portland in 10th grade, I liked her a lot, but it was just too far.

DrumlinerJoe
03-22-2007, 01:44 PM
Eh, some folks do find god or whatever and end up changing like that. I especially love how they talk like they know what it's like saying that "it's a choice" and this and that. I especially love the part about "Submit it to god..." cause I can speak from experience, that shit don't work.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be anti-religion or anti-Christian or anything. But come the fuck on, drop the condescending attitude and just listen and open your minds for once.

Zulu
03-22-2007, 01:52 PM
Take off that damn timestamp!! Ugh..horrible.

And I'm not a fan of Jesus freaks. I'm not a fan of people who can't live for themselfs. I'm not saying you can't be religious. But don't force it on people. And for goodness sake, quit judging people. Alot of Christians (ironically) are guilty of this.

.Free.
03-22-2007, 01:57 PM
have u seen so many dicks to know that. The fatter your fingers are the bigger dick u have and if u have skinny fingers the smaller your dick is. I heard that penis length is based on finger width.

.Free.
03-22-2007, 01:59 PM
This is what showers are for.
what if there's no time for a shower and your in the heat of the moment do u just take it like a man and suck even though it smells like ass?

Mechanica
03-22-2007, 02:01 PM
.Free., can I kindly ask that you stop being so immature and... well, retarded? :rolleyes: No one's gonna suck a fucking dick that makes them gag from the smell, and the only thing that correlates to penis size is the damned size of one's penis.

Eh, some folks do find god or whatever and end up changing like that. I especially love how they talk like they know what it's like saying that "it's a choice" and this and that.
Yeah, it's always the same. Surrender all your free will and waste away your life praying that your sexuality will change while trying to force yourself to live a hollow heterosexual life. :rolleyes:

I especially love the part about "Submit it to god..." cause I can speak from experience, that shit don't work.
Hahaha, really? I've been wanting a friend who has tried their way just to humor them or something. Tell me about it. :lovin:

Take off that damn timestamp!! Ugh..horrible.

Ok. :wonder:


And I'm not a fan of Jesus freaks. I'm not a fan of people who can't live for themselfs. I'm not saying you can't be religious. But don't force it on people. And for goodness sake, quit judging people. Alot of Christians (ironically) are guilty of this.
Seriously. So many of them, in fact, that I can't help but feel everything inside me go 'irk' when people tell me they're Christian. I'm just like "Ugh, great, this probably means I shouldn't talk to you to save myself the effort." I know I shouldn't think like that, but I can't help it. The problem is that the Christians that aren't inept aren't the ones that are openly/obviously Christian, you know? Open-minded Christians are a rare, and amazing breed. If you're Christian and don't ever push your shit onto other people, I commend you.

I hate that people can honestly believe that just because a majority of white people believe in Christianity that it is 'right', it's the only choice, only religion, only way to live. Sorry, I don't mean to rant or offend anyone, I'm just perplexed.

At least she understands that you don't choose who you're attracted to... that's a start. Now, if only... :rofl:

DrumlinerJoe
03-22-2007, 02:02 PM
what if there's no time for a shower and your in the heat of the moment do u just take it like a man and suck even though it smells like ass?

What's with the urgency to this question? Planning on drinking with some of your buddies this weekend?

.Free.
03-22-2007, 02:04 PM
LOL guess gays are cleaner than i am cuz i wouldn't take a shower. im filthy

DrumlinerJoe
03-22-2007, 02:05 PM
Hahaha, really? I've been wanting a friend who has tried their way just to humor them or something. Tell me about it. :lovin:




I was religious when I was younger and I heard/read this kind of thing so many times. So after not being able to "change" myself, I just "gave it up to god" (as they would say) and that didn't work either. It was quite the mindfuck I'll tell ya'll that.

Long story short I just went on with my life. If there's a god out there he knows what I tried to do and what just isn't possible.

Mechanica
03-22-2007, 02:07 PM
I was religious when I was younger and I heard/read this kind of thing so many times. So after not being able to "change" myself, I just "gave it up to god" (as they would say) and that didn't work either. It was quite the mindfuck I'll tell ya'll that.

Long story short I just went on with my life. If there's a god out there he knows what I tried to do and what just isn't possible.

Damn, I'm sure that must take a toll on the young psyche. Sad. :sad: Oh well, you turned out alright. :tup: Haha. I bet if I tell this chick that I know people who've tried her approach, she'd just say they didn't try hard enough, or something.

At least this is like a stepping stone in coming out, in general. I gotta get used to some people being this dense, right? Bring it on, breeders. :karate:

Zulu
03-22-2007, 02:16 PM
what if there's no time for a shower and your in the heat of the moment do u just take it like a man and suck even though it smells like ass?

If I'm with a guy and his dick smells like ass, then that's a clear sign to me that he's been cheating on me.

DrumlinerJoe
03-22-2007, 02:17 PM
Damn, I'm sure that must take a toll on the young psyche. Sad. :sad: Oh well, you turned out alright. :tup: Haha. I bet if I tell this chick that I know people who've tried her approach, she'd just say they didn't try hard enough, or something.

At least this is like a stepping stone in coming out, in general. I gotta get used to some people being this dense, right? Bring it on, breeders. :karate:

Definitely man. One the whole it's been mostly a good experience. There's the folks who are gonna talk shit, others won't be comfortable around you, others won't care. It all happens but hey, just gotta move on you know.

And yeah that's usually the excuse, folks don't try hard enough. And alot of these little Christian programs where they can convert someone like to toute big conversion numbers and all that, but they never say anything about retention rates, know what I mean.

.Free.
03-22-2007, 02:51 PM
If I'm with a guy and his dick smells like ass, then that's a clear sign to me that he's been cheating on me.
THis made me LOL u got a good point there.:rofl:

LightningStorm
03-22-2007, 04:17 PM
LOL guess gays are cleaner than i am cuz i wouldn't take a shower. im filthy

I don't think you understand. Dick doesn't stink like that, even after having been sweaty for a while. Now, if you hadn't showered in over a day then that's a problem yes, but showered that morning, work and then come home, it shouldn't be all disgustingly rank (not even a really hard day's work). If it is then that could be a sign of STDs or some other problem that should be looked at. Balls aren't like armpits, they just don't work that way.

Azagtoth
03-22-2007, 05:52 PM
have u seen so many dicks to know that. The fatter your fingers are the bigger dick u have and if u have skinny fingers the smaller your dick is. I heard that penis length is based on finger width.

Sorry dude. This is completely bogus.

what if there's no time for a shower and your in the heat of the moment do u just take it like a man and suck even though it smells like ass?

...If we're in the heat of the moment, and that's a problem, we could just continue in the shower. To clarify, lightning storm is correct: it usually does not get to a point where it really smells, but if it did, I wouldn't hesitate to take it to the shower.

Mechanica: A similar thing happened to me. The guy that outed me in high school was close friends with someone everyone used to refer to as the "jesus-kid," who was at the time a friend of mine.once he got word, he actually pulled me out of class and gave me a lecture (which quickly became an argument) that lasted somewhere around an hour and a half. The funny thing was that his intention was to see whether or not the music I listen to had any influence in it (IE he thought black and death metal made me gay).

EDIT: Mech, you were on PSO back in the day? Dope.

The_Beast
03-22-2007, 11:49 PM
Balls aren't like armpits, they just don't work that way.

Damn, I am straight and I know that. WTF people?!?!? Can you not recognize your own scent????

Kuenai
03-23-2007, 12:18 AM
Ugh... jesus freaks just piss me off. When I try and tolerate them, I either end up wanting to puke, wanting to go to sleep and forget I ever had the conversation, or just plain slit their throats. Honestly, I believe in a higher power. Not a deity or particular object of worship, but that there is something responsible for the things that are here. There was a beginning, and if there is a god, then there is something responsible for his birth/creation. Wait..... I'm ranting on my spiritual beliefs now, aren't I? Shit... sorry.

What annoys me the most is that once a person accepts religion, they tend to close their minds to all beliefs not supported by their religion. e.g.) If they joined a Lutheran church, they would disagree with a Mormon on many things dealing with prayer and relationships, etc. and ARGUE TO THE END over them. Religion takes in the uncertain and makes them stand firm in their beliefs (the religion's). It aggravates the hell out of me. Especially the catholics. I actually decked a (no longer) friend of mine for constantly insulting a gay friend of mine. Then insulting the hell out of my bi ex, who I am still close friends with. Heretics my ass :arazz:

hawaiigamer142
03-23-2007, 02:07 AM
Ah yeah it's very hypocritical how according to Christianity, God is the only one who can judge, and yet they seem to be acting on God's behalf [which would be blasphemy, in a sense] and judge others.

But ANYWAY, off the religion subject. How should I convince this girl to get with my bisexual friend? [Who's actually more into girls than guys, hah!] I mean, she's sketchy about it and stuff. Any advice?

Kix
03-23-2007, 03:04 AM
Hawaiigamer, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. Yeah, let's drop religious discussion because it's cool and not against the rules until I get involved.

Azagtoth
03-23-2007, 03:49 AM
Hawaiigamer, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. Yeah, let's drop religious discussion because it's cool and not against the rules until I get involved.

IWST doesn't read this anymore, and no one really cares. Go ahead; feel free to bring up your textbook religion vs. gays argument that's been done to death for the 345897349857345th time.

The Green Trench Coat
03-23-2007, 05:38 AM
mech: i'm gay fucktard: your a sinner.. oh wait so am i..

I'll never understand.. that logic. as if everyone in the world is christian and bound to the churches hypocritical logic.

have u seen so many dicks to know that. The fatter your fingers are the bigger dick u have and if u have skinny fingers the smaller your dick is. I heard that penis length is based on finger width.

dude. even if that was a mechanism for finding out how big some guys penis is.. why would you care. you trying to tell us something. you want to be our accountabilibuddy?

Ah yeah it's very hypocritical how according to Christianity, God is the only one who can judge, and yet they seem to be acting on God's behalf [which would be blasphemy, in a sense] and judge others.

But ANYWAY, off the religion subject. How should I convince this girl to get with my bisexual friend? [Who's actually more into girls than guys, hah!] I mean, she's sketchy about it and stuff. Any advice?

HG. the biggest problem heteros have with bi guys is: "will he stay with me if he some chick tempts him" *or vice versa obviously. if you are gonna sell it you are going to have to sell him on the fact that he won't cheat and has a history of fidelity to prove it.

Hawaiigamer, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. Yeah, let's drop religious discussion because it's cool and not against the rules until I get involved.

Kix man.. pls don't go all 'religious fury swipes'. We understand your position. but you have to understand that you arent going to convince me that i'm a bad person because i'm gay. I've got tons of redeeming qualities including I respect my fellow man/woman and always do my best to help people, and alot of the gays here are the same. If that's not enough to register as a-ok on your religious "scouter".. sorry dude. You'll always be pissed at us and we'll always not really care that you are. No disrespect *bearhugs*.

IWST doesn't read this anymore, and no one really cares. Go ahead; feel free to bring up your textbook religion vs. gays argument that's been done to death for the 345897349857345th time.

Ive always been partial to the "god vs pullies" argument. (that's a UCB joke)

texas is pretty awesome.. here in dallas i have found a few cabinets but no real competition. I'm even owning in mvc2 which shouldn't happen.. ever.
ah well time to hang with the bears. I'll take lots o pics. Aza.. theres a few bears for you here that would make you :looney:

Kix
03-23-2007, 08:50 AM
Oh, nah there isn't really a point through going through this again, but I think it is mostly because I've been reported, though when I am it seems like only I get recognized for an offense. Azagoth, really, religious arguments are as good as it get's for morality. Otherwise my last argument in the other thread wasn't necessarily religious at all. Really I'm kind of just defending and explaining things more than anything, seems a lot of people here do not understand the reasons behind a lot of these religious arguments and simply shrug them off and then claim theists are clsoe minded.

GTC, I'm not really 'pissed' at anyone, but I've always argued subjective morality is entirely pointless, so subjective positions on whether you yourself are a bad guy don't really mean anything simply coming from either of us, but since it goes religious I can't afford to be reported again. Honestly, I am not thinking I am smarter than anyone else when I argue for religious discussion, it's a must in explaining opinions or positions on a lot of things.

Take care guys I'm off to do some stuff.

The Green Trench Coat
03-23-2007, 11:00 AM
Oh, nah there isn't really a point through going through this again, but I think it is mostly because I've been reported, though when I am it seems like only I get recognized for an offense. Azagoth, really, religious arguments are as good as it get's for morality. Otherwise my last argument in the other thread wasn't necessarily religious at all. Really I'm kind of just defending and explaining things more than anything, seems a lot of people here do not understand the reasons behind a lot of these religious arguments and simply shrug them off and then claim theists are clsoe minded.

GTC, I'm not really 'pissed' at anyone, but I've always argued subjective morality is entirely pointless, so subjective positions on whether you yourself are a bad guy don't really mean anything simply coming from either of us, but since it goes religious I can't afford to be reported again. Honestly, I am not thinking I am smarter than anyone else when I argue for religious discussion, it's a must in explaining opinions or positions on a lot of things.

Take care guys I'm off to do some stuff.

arguing subjective morality is pointless. but hey if you wanna talk les talk.. or pm me whatever.

JaHa
03-23-2007, 11:40 AM
haha green trench coat is still around wow
been a long time
still flaming about the same stuff but new people haha

The Green Trench Coat
03-23-2007, 01:31 PM
haha green trench coat is still around wow
been a long time
still flaming about the same stuff but new people haha

shit man.. it's been freakin years since i saw/heard from you.

Kuenai
03-23-2007, 04:16 PM
Just thought Kix's PM was entertaining. Waitaminit..... it wasn't. \



Originally Posted by Kix
I don't mean to be disrespectful, but perhaps you would not get so angry about a Christian if you actually understood why they believe what they believe. It isn't necessarily dropped on them and they can't do anything about it.

Honestly, I have researched a lot of things and although I have grown up in a Christian home I would have left the beliefs in an instance if they were false. This doesn't mean I don't have an open mind whatsoever, there are plenty of atheists that do not even research and stay the way they are comfortable.

You see, Christians actually have a reason for morality, you don't. Why do you think anything is wrong or right? Why does it matter? How can I believe that when no one is looking that you will not steal? Why does it matter if you murder and rape and get away with it? Without a God and set of morality it doesn't matter, when you die you die there is nothing left in the athiestic worldview, and even if you are not an atheist you are borrowing this worldview.

In Christianity what is right is based upon God's nature, what is wrong contradicts God. Morality does not jsut show up in the human mind, how do you explain it?
First of all, saying that I have no reason for morality is WRONG. My morality comes from a need of acceptance. It's the same way it is for everyone. Thou shalt not murder, rape, steal, etc. These are codes of behavior that any man of any faith can embrace. These codes of behavior are given to us by those who raised us, then later by those who we respect and call friends.

Calling my view an atheistic world view is once again incorrect. I do not give credit for my creation, life, morals, or death to a deity. Instead I give this credit to my mother and father, myself and my surroundings, the aspects I previously mentioned, and myself and my choices respectively. Atheism is the denial of a higher power. I have already acknowledged that I believe in a higher power. What it is has yet to be determined. My world view is one of logic, one of choice and circumstance. Just not one of a divine plan.

I grew up with a very religious background. I stepped away from it long ago because I chose not to interact with others as much as normal children did. I observed behavior; I watched carefully. Based on my influences up to that point, I chose to become agnostic. I am in a state of uncertainty: where we all start. I choose to stay there because it keeps me open-minded. My closest friend in this world is Christian. I don't shun her beliefs. She is open-minded. Most people need some kind of higher power to look to for an explanation. I choose to investigate rather than believe, to choose rather than obey.

If you have come to sway my view, then come back with a very long, detailed explanation. I am open to your suggestions, but until I hear something that makes more sense than the ideals I hold right now, my views will not be swayed. You have come with ignorance, just as I mentioned in the post you saw. To make assumptions like those you have made will only bring more scorn.

Until next time....
~Jamie

Azagtoth
03-23-2007, 04:38 PM
I'll take lots o pics. Aza.. theres a few bears for you here that would make you :looney:

Please do. <3

-snip-

Morality can exist without faith in a higher power (Buddhism is a good example, there's a teacher, but no God) and morality is also not universally bound to a single doctrine.

Forgive me for any disrespect I may have shown; I have a predisposition of disdain towards Christianity and some of it's followers, and it's not hard to see why. Believe what you want, and I'll do the same, but when you come here purely to tell us we're all unjust as many before you have (which, btw, is ever so slightly disrespectful; why should we have to justify our existence to you?), you can't expect us to not react this way.

hawaiigamer142
03-23-2007, 05:19 PM
Heh. Alrighty, thanks GTC for all the insight.
By the way, do you have anymore pictures of your tattoos? The last one was kind of neat.

The Green Trench Coat
03-23-2007, 07:51 PM
Heh. Alrighty, thanks GTC for all the insight.
By the way, do you have anymore pictures of your tattoos? The last one was kind of neat.

yeah i will soon as i get back to nyc.

Dander
03-23-2007, 07:54 PM
ya'll niggahs is gay.

this question is definitely a speak for yourself question:

Do you feel you relate more to women or to men?

I ask this because I see gay guys roaming the streets being called out by straight men and the gay guys usually end up saying something along the lines of "I'm more of a man, than you'll ever be." I look at them though, and I don't think manly, I think, chun li player.

.Free.
03-23-2007, 07:58 PM
ya'll niggahs is gay.


QFT!

Mechanica
03-23-2007, 08:49 PM
EDIT: Mech, you were on PSO back in the day? Dope.
Yeah when that came out on Dreamcast, I played it all the time until v2 came out, then I played v2 until it died.

I actually decked a (no longer) friend of mine for constantly insulting a gay friend of mine. Then insulting the hell out of my bi ex, who I am still close friends with. Heretics my ass :arazz:
Hahah, right on man. :tup:

I'll never understand.. that logic. as if everyone in the world is christian and bound to the churches hypocritical logic.
Yeah, not to generalize, but I've noticed that I've never seen a religion that is as expected-to-be-everywhere as Christianity is. Seriously, it's all good that you believe in that but it doesn't mean everyone else has to. You can't just believe one thing and completely dismiss everything else (well, people have proven that you can, but you get what I mean).


Ive always been partial to the "god vs pullies" argument. (that's a UCB joke)

UCB is awesome. :lol:


this question is definitely a speak for yourself question:

Do you feel you relate more to women or to men?

Guys. I've always been painfully observant of the differences in the ways guys and girls think after having, at different points in my life, friends from all one gender for the most part. I had a lot (a lot) of female friends in high school, which was actually before I really acknowledged that I was attracted to guys at all... funny thing is I always found out later that like... 75% of them had a thing for me. Hahaha, it was a nice change from middle school where I mostly had awful self esteem. :lol:

Anyway, I view a lot of relationships from people I know as a 3rd party, and just watching the ways guys and girls bond, and again, their different ways of thinking kinda helped me realize that a relationship with a guy wasn't as weird as I thought it was. At first, I really just had kind of a sexual attraction to some guys, and what I thought was whatever else to girls, but there's this certain level of chill factor I've found being with a guy that isn't as easily obtained in a man/woman relationship. It's hard to explain, but it's really refreshing to me. It's cool finding a guy, that doesn't act like a girl, that is genuine and genuinely into you(/vice versa). I don't feel like I'm explaining it as well as I could, but all that matter is I like it. :tup:

~~~

I also had a little morality discussion thing with Kix and we kind of just talked in circles and agreed on everything that wasn't theistic. :lol:

"xxx is zzz"
"yes but zzz is pointless"
"yes but what isn't pointless?"
"touche but..."

Yadda yadda. Hahaha. I don't like arguing/discussing morality, it's far too subjective & cultural.

Wolfkiller
03-23-2007, 08:52 PM
ya'll niggahs is gay.

this question is definitely a speak for yourself question:

Do you feel you relate more to women or to men?

I ask this because I see gay guys roaming the streets being called out by straight men and the gay guys usually end up saying something along the lines of "I'm more of a man, than you'll ever be." I look at them though, and I don't think manly, I think, chun li player.

Hey now! Takes a real man to play with girl characters. Dan users on the other hand....

Zulu
03-23-2007, 09:45 PM
^ I use Dan. He's top tier in SvC. Least he is when I use him.

:china:

Azagtoth
03-23-2007, 11:10 PM
Do you feel you relate more to women or to men?

Men.

Next question.

The Green Trench Coat
03-24-2007, 07:22 AM
ya'll niggahs is gay.

this question is definitely a speak for yourself question:

Do you feel you relate more to women or to men?


bears ... grrr

I ask this because I see gay guys roaming the streets being called out by straight men and the gay guys usually end up saying something along the lines of "I'm more of a man, than you'll ever be." I look at them though, and I don't think manly, I think, chun li player.

haha..

Bwhahahahahaa.
from this i'm picture straight guy calling out gay guy
"Hey your a ***"
"I'm more man than you'll ever be."
*pause*
*simultaneously*
"LET'S DUEL"
*dual disk pops out, 4000LP pops up*


Incidentally i have the monster reborn sword tatooed on my back. so i'm ready for such a skenariyo

Next question.

How come nobody told me that Whattaburger is so fuking AWESOME??

Azagtoth
03-24-2007, 04:50 PM
Bwhahahahahaa.
from this i'm picture straight guy calling out gay guy
"Hey your a ***"
"I'm more man than you'll ever be."
*pause*
*simultaneously*
"LET'S DUEL"
*dual disk pops out, 4000LP pops up*

I summon Dirty Sanchez in attack mode!

How come nobody told me that Whattaburger is so fuking AWESOME??

I could have told you that, but it didn't occur to me because we totally don't have that here. My sis and her bf used to live in Texas, and they swear by that shit.

The Green Trench Coat
03-24-2007, 05:10 PM
I summon Dirty Sanchez in attack mode!



I could have told you that, but it didn't occur to me because we totally don't have that here. My sis and her bf used to live in Texas, and they swear by that shit.

dude.. it's litterally the best fast food burger i've ever had .. ever. amazing!

Mechanica
03-24-2007, 06:20 PM
I've vaguely heard of that place, but there's definitely none of them anywhere near me.

Man, it's weird enough telling people on the internet that I'm with a guy who's a lot older, I don't really know how I'm gonna tell people in real life. It's even weirder than telling them I'm with a guy... It's a lot easier telling people awkward things when I just have to hit some keys and get to hide behind my monitor, you know?

EDIT: Oh man, I have to tell my jesus freak 'friend'. That would be so fucking hilarious. Ahahahahahaaaaaaaaahah, I can't wait 'til she's on AIM again some time.

LightningStorm
03-24-2007, 07:42 PM
How come nobody told me that Whattaburger is so fuking AWESOME??


Yeah, I learned that my first time going to TX too. They really need to expand to other states....

Zulu
03-24-2007, 07:43 PM
dude.. it's litterally the best fast food burger i've ever had .. ever. amazing!

In-N-Out owns everything.

Ok question: Any of you ever gone to a Pride type event?

The Green Trench Coat
03-24-2007, 07:49 PM
Yeah, I learned that my first time going to TX too. They really need to expand to other states....

if they had one close to me they would make my heart attack so tastey.

The Green Trench Coat
03-24-2007, 07:52 PM
In-N-Out owns everything.

Ok question: Any of you ever gone to a Pride type event?


I'm at a pride type event.. right now.

Zulu
03-24-2007, 07:58 PM
I'm in love with a lesbian: http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c385/jenniferjeanne/817388001_l.jpg

Azagtoth
03-24-2007, 10:32 PM
I'm at a pride type event.. right now.

How is that shit?

LightningStorm
03-25-2007, 05:17 AM
Ok question: Any of you ever gone to a Pride type event?

All the time. I have gone to KC's PrideFestival every year from 2000-2005, went to DC's Black Gay Pride in 2002. And San Diego's Pride Event in 2006.

The Green Trench Coat
03-25-2007, 10:23 PM
How is that shit?

lots of fun.. made tons of new friends. it's a real test of your ability to socialize. It can be rough but after the liquor starts flowing everyones yer buddy. :wgrin:

aza i took vid of this one bear that i think you and I would be drooling over. I'm gonna try to go to the florida event .. Bearbust. should be cool

Kuenai
03-26-2007, 02:19 AM
^ I use Dan. He's top tier in SvC. Least he is when I use him.

:china:

Waaaiiiiiitttt. SvC or CVS/CVS2? 'Cause SvC is a perversion words cannot describe :confused:

Azagtoth
03-26-2007, 07:01 AM
aza i took vid of this one bear that i think you and I would be drooling over. I'm gonna try to go to the florida event .. Bearbust. should be cool

Where's that at?

There's also a Girth and Mirth thing at Ft. Lauderdale, which isn't that far from me.

The Green Trench Coat
03-26-2007, 07:51 AM
Where's that at?

There's also a Girth and Mirth thing at Ft. Lauderdale, which isn't that far from me.

bear bust is in orlando.

Oh man G & M parties are FUN!!!
there is like Zero attitude everyone is friendly. None of that stand and pose bullshit. I went to a girth and mirth party in LA I had a freakin blast. and so many hot men *drool* you should check it out it's a very good party to start with cause it's not intimidating at all to walk into the party and its also a great place to meet new friends

Azagtoth
03-26-2007, 10:11 AM
bear bust is in orlando.

Oh man G & M parties are FUN!!!
there is like Zero attitude everyone is friendly. None of that stand and pose bullshit. I went to a girth and mirth party in LA I had a freakin blast. and so many hot men *drool* you should check it out it's a very good party to start with cause it's not intimidating at all to walk into the party and its also a great place to meet new friends

Sounds cool. You should come with. It's in May. =P

The Green Trench Coat
03-26-2007, 12:51 PM
Sounds cool. You should come with. It's in May. =P

doesn't sound like a bad idea. I'll talk to my bf .. he LOVES G&M events. and we have to go down to florida anyway to pick up this van and drive it back to nyc anyhow from his parents house.

see if you can get some more info on it.

Azagtoth
03-26-2007, 01:01 PM
doesn't sound like a bad idea. I'll talk to my bf .. he LOVES G&M events. and we have to go down to florida anyway to pick up this van and drive it back to nyc anyhow from his parents house.

see if you can get some more info on it.

Dope. I'll check it out.

Mechanica
03-26-2007, 02:21 PM
...Mirth? :confused:

Azagtoth
03-26-2007, 03:11 PM
...Mirth? :confused:

...Girth. <3

SNAAAAKE
03-26-2007, 03:18 PM
do gay people ever fuck in gay bar/club restroom ? like you know..if you find someone attractive, hit the restroom and get busy. just wondering..NO HOMO

The Green Trench Coat
03-26-2007, 03:35 PM
...Girth. <3

ah girth.. great girth.

do gay people ever fuck in gay bar/club restroom ? like you know..if you find someone attractive, hit the restroom and get busy. just wondering..NO HOMO

I've seen it happen before. Personally if a trick is willing to get down in a bathroom.. that's kinda a red flag.

Azagtoth
03-26-2007, 03:37 PM
do gay people ever fuck in gay bar/club restroom ? like you know..if you find someone attractive, hit the restroom and get busy. just wondering..NO HOMO

No. That's what the back room in the club and bathhouses are for.

Kix
03-26-2007, 03:38 PM
1) First of all, saying that I have no reason for morality is WRONG. My morality comes from a need of acceptance. It's the same way it is for everyone. Thou shalt not murder, rape, steal, etc. These are codes of behavior that any man of any faith can embrace. These codes of behavior are given to us by those who raised us, then later by those who we respect and call friends.

2) Calling my view an atheistic world view is once again incorrect. I do not give credit for my creation, life, morals, or death to a deity. Instead I give this credit to my mother and father, myself and my surroundings, the aspects I previously mentioned, and myself and my choices respectively. Atheism is the denial of a higher power. I have already acknowledged that I believe in a higher power. What it is has yet to be determined. My world view is one of logic, one of choice and circumstance. Just not one of a divine plan.

3) I grew up with a very religious background. I stepped away from it long ago because I chose not to interact with others as much as normal children did. I observed behavior; I watched carefully. Based on my influences up to that point, I chose to become agnostic. I am in a state of uncertainty: where we all start. I choose to stay there because it keeps me open-minded. My closest friend in this world is Christian. I don't shun her beliefs. She is open-minded. Most people need some kind of higher power to look to for an explanation. I choose to investigate rather than believe, to choose rather than obey.

4) If you have come to sway my view, then come back with a very long, detailed explanation. I am open to your suggestions, but until I hear something that makes more sense than the ideals I hold right now, my views will not be swayed. You have come with ignorance, just as I mentioned in the post you saw. To make assumptions like those you have made will only bring more scorn.

Until next time....
~Jamie


1) You cannot explain the reasons behind your morality, therefore the reasons why something is moral or immoral is not really explainable, just an opinion based upon your own mind and nothing else. Although your morality is based off of perhaps your parents and perhaps they have reasons behind things being moral the simple fact that you have them does not mean they are explanable, and that is what I meant by you not having reason behind it.


2) This part is only furthering what I have already stated. Your morality is of the absence of a diety and therefore 'atheistic' you are pointing this out yourself. It doesn't matter if you have a belief in a diety in which you have not yet decided, your morality is atheistic.

You claim your worldview is of logic, but is logic behind your rationale of morality? If no one is looking can anyone hold you to your morality, and if so, how can we? Why do you hold yourself to it?

3) If you make a decision because of being 'open-minded' does that mean you are no longer open-minded? I am not against changing my opinion on anything, that is why I am skeptical about things and look into them.

Is your morality based upon that which is observable in nature or just other's minds?

4) You are welcome to view my discussion with Lightning Storm if he does not object.

Please do. <3

Morality can exist without faith in a higher power (Buddhism is a good example, there's a teacher, but no God) and morality is also not universally bound to a single doctrine.


I am not saying it cannot exist, as it does, the question is why and what is the rationale behind it?

The same invitation about the email discussion between myself and LightningStorm is open to you as well.

Azagtoth
03-26-2007, 04:55 PM
GTC: I think I must have misread, or something. I couldn't find it on BC (they have some events there, but it's not a G+M party), and I remembered I saw it on Bulk Male and they never update shit apparently because it's from 06. If anything, we might be down to hit up bear bust, though, or at least meet up while you're in Florida, depending on how the money situation.

Kix: Thanks for the offer, but I have to decline. I'm really not a fan of discussing religious theory or philosophy anymore.

LightningStorm
03-26-2007, 05:06 PM
4) You are welcome to view my discussion with Lightning Storm if he does not object.

By all means. CC whomever. Azagtoth has declined, but for future reference, I'm fine with it.

Kix
03-26-2007, 05:53 PM
Okay then. I didn't mean to take so long to get the first response to you, I'll try to keep up from now on.

Oh, Azagoth just wanted to add that you don't really have to discuss anything, you can just view it if you want.

Mechanica
03-27-2007, 12:07 PM
I personally think it's lame that people need some figure to potentially be watching at all times in order to uphold their morality. I'm not trying to say everyone is using religion as a crutch, but it reminds me of a classroom full of schoolkids... well behaved and working on their assignments or at least slightly pretending to - until the teacher leaves the classroom to go copy some papers for 10 minutes. Class gets loud, people start throwing paper airplanes and jumping on desks... It's really the same idea. :rofl:

The only person I need questioning my morality is myself. If someone else doesn't believe me or something, I couldn't care less. As a general rule, I don't do anything to other people I wouldn't want done to me (heh), out of courtesy and hope that they will do the same in return. It's really quite simple. I don't need anyone to look over my shoulder to tell me if what I'm doing is right.

I really don't want to perpetuate a lot of religion-based discussion, but have you guys heard of Ignosticism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignosticism)? I hadn't really known anything about it until recently, but I actually really like the ideals behind it.

DrumlinerJoe
03-27-2007, 12:19 PM
A native american dude asked me if I believed in God and I told him I don't really know, and I leads towards the side of atheism. He also asked where I found my spirituality and I told him in my music. I don't know why but that's how I've always been able to transcend.

And Kix damn it man, if you don't like gays or agree with the lifestyle whatever then stop posting in the damn thread. Talking bout how it's wrong and this and that and not just leaving makes you look funny by the way. Not haha funny but "funny." If you're looking for sins to cleanse then go harrass the porn thread or something.

Mechanica
03-27-2007, 12:21 PM
stuff

So'd you go on another date with that one guy yet?

DrumlinerJoe
03-27-2007, 12:24 PM
So'd you go on another date with that one guy yet?

Dude's a fuckin flake man. Went out on Saturday to end up at the bar next to mine. At closing time I ask him what he's doing he says he needs to get home cause he had to work the next day. I ask if he needed a lift he tells me, "Nah man I'm waiting for my dude."

Apparently he had been talking to this other guy at the same time as me and they got together the night before. I kept it cool though and told him it's cool, we weren't boyfriends anyway. He apologized and that's about it. Jackass.

Next.

Mechanica
03-27-2007, 12:36 PM
Aww, bummer.

The Green Trench Coat
03-28-2007, 06:52 AM
Aww, bummer.

Not so much a bummer I mean joe went in with the right mentality. so I'm more glad joe didn't get his feelings hurt. but the guy was a dipshit.

Mechanica
03-28-2007, 02:37 PM
Not so much a bummer I mean joe went in with the right mentality. so I'm more glad joe didn't get his feelings hurt. but the guy was a dipshit.

Yeah, I just meant bummer in the idea that it was unfortunate that the guy turned out to suck. :razz:

My relationship is kind of in a bizarre triangle at the moment, and the other guy is probably just going to end up hurt, so I kinda feel bad. Well, no, I do feel bad. I didn't know until it was too late, though. :confused: I just hope he doesn't wait much longer to talk to him... I understand not wanting to hurt him but the longer he waits the more it'll probably hurt him... Man, this sucks ass.

The Green Trench Coat
03-29-2007, 06:15 AM
Yeah, I just meant bummer in the idea that it was unfortunate that the guy turned out to suck. :razz:

My relationship is kind of in a bizarre triangle at the moment, and the other guy is probably just going to end up hurt, so I kinda feel bad. Well, no, I do feel bad. I didn't know until it was too late, though. :confused: I just hope he doesn't wait much longer to talk to him... I understand not wanting to hurt him but the longer he waits the more it'll probably hurt him... Man, this sucks ass.

IMO the worst thing about dating .. gay or straight.. is the time waisted. So i say it's good that joe found out about this guy sooner than later. Joes a sexy beast so i'm sure he can select another from all the guys beating down the door to get at him.

Bizzare triangle.. uh oh. Some other guy is trying to get with your bf? What does your bf need to talk to the guy about and why is he delaying?

Mechanica
03-29-2007, 07:32 AM
IMO the worst thing about dating .. gay or straight.. is the time waisted. So i say it's good that joe found out about this guy sooner than later. Joes a sexy beast so i'm sure he can select another from all the guys beating down the door to get at him.

lol, good point.


Bizzare triangle.. uh oh. Some other guy is trying to get with your bf? What does your bf need to talk to the guy about and why is he delaying?

It's a little more complicated... when I first met up with him, we were just kinda friends with benefits. Then I kinda fell for him, and the feelings became mutual, and then I found out he had been seeing someone romantically. Anyway, to summarize what doesn't really need to be dragged out, he doesn't want to hurt the guy and still cares about him, but he has stronger feelings for me. We've definitely already crossed the line and him taking much longer is just dragging it out and is going to end up hurting the other guy more, but he's known the guy for 2 years (I don't know if they've been together that long) so I see why he's hesitant to just totally blow him off.

Expect the worst and hope for the best, right? :wonder:

The Green Trench Coat
03-29-2007, 07:44 AM
lol, good point.



It's a little more complicated... when I first met up with him, we were just kinda friends with benefits. Then I kinda fell for him, and the feelings became mutual, and then I found out he had been seeing someone romantically. Anyway, to summarize what doesn't really need to be dragged out, he doesn't want to hurt the guy and still cares about him, but he has stronger feelings for me. We've definitely already crossed the line and him taking much longer is just dragging it out and is going to end up hurting the other guy more, but he's known the guy for 2 years (I don't know if they've been together that long) so I see why he's hesitant to just totally blow him off.

Expect the worst and hope for the best, right? :wonder:


good luck with that. but yeah like you said the longer it goes on the harder it's going to be to break off. Unless he's looking for a 3 way relationship. which is tough and realy not for everyone.

Mechanica
03-29-2007, 07:58 AM
good luck with that. but yeah like you said the longer it goes on the harder it's going to be to break off. Unless he's looking for a 3 way relationship. which is tough and realy not for everyone.

Thanks... but yeah, I see it from his side and understand why he's acting the way he is, so I'm not mad at him or anything. I don't think he's looking for a three way relationship, and if he is, that... sucks. :lol: I think he's just looking for what he think is an opportune time to bring it up without just having to randomly, out of the blue, be like "oh yeah I found someone else sorry bye thx for ur time ttyl."

Honestly though, I hope he does something pretty soon. We both feel bad about it but the more he waits, the less it helps all three of us. Plus, I already miss him a lot and want to see him again... and it'd be nice to see him without having that on my mind.

The Green Trench Coat
03-29-2007, 09:34 AM
Thanks... but yeah, I see it from his side and understand why he's acting the way he is, so I'm not mad at him or anything. I don't think he's looking for a three way relationship, and if he is, that... sucks. :lol: I think he's just looking for what he think is an opportune time to bring it up without just having to randomly, out of the blue, be like "oh yeah I found someone else sorry bye thx for ur time ttyl."

Honestly though, I hope he does something pretty soon. We both feel bad about it but the more he waits, the less it helps all three of us. Plus, I already miss him a lot and want to see him again... and it'd be nice to see him without having that on my mind.


look at you..

So much progress in so little time. :wgrin:

Mechanica
03-29-2007, 09:53 AM
look at you..

So much progress in so little time. :wgrin:

Heheh. :bgrin: Before the last topic I couldn't even really see myself in a relationship with a guy (never felt anything past sexual), and now I'm swooning! :lovin: Hahah. I love it. Dating a guy feels so much more chill and straightforward in general. No fuckin' bullshit mindgames to be played, especially since I'm not into guys my age, really. The age thing skips a lot of superficial immature stuff, too, it's top tier. Also, I've come to actually like it when people think I'm an abomination to the world because of it. Shit is just fucking grade A hilarity to me, now. :tup:

Also, my gaydar is gradually improving - it's awesome. Hahaha, it's so fun.

The Green Trench Coat
03-29-2007, 10:28 AM
Heheh. :bgrin: Before the last topic I couldn't even really see myself in a relationship with a guy (never felt anything past sexual), and now I'm swooning! :lovin: Hahah. I love it. Dating a guy feels so much more chill and straightforward in general. No fuckin' bullshit mindgames to be played, especially since I'm not into guys my age, really. The age thing skips a lot of superficial immature stuff, too, it's top tier. Also, I've come to actually like it when people think I'm an abomination to the world because of it. Shit is just fucking grade A hilarity to me, now. :tup:

Also, my gaydar is gradually improving - it's awesome. Hahaha, it's so fun.

Gaydar is a funny thing.. when it first "kicked in" I really was just focusing on guys that I really really wanted to be gay and may have just been kind.

over the years though it's incredible I can spot a "potential slayer" <- buffy refference
a mile away. I can even pick up out a curious guy pretty easily. the only thing is still have trouble with on occasion is with lesbians.. it's sometimes harder for me to pick them out without speaking to them.

LightningStorm
03-29-2007, 10:44 AM
Gaydar is a funny thing.. when it first "kicked in" I really was just focusing on guys that I really really wanted to be gay and may have just been kind.

over the years though it's incredible I can spot a "potential slayer" <- buffy refference
a mile away. I can even pick up out a curious guy pretty easily. the only thing is still have trouble with on occasion is with lesbians.. it's sometimes harder for me to pick them out without speaking to them.

lol, nice. Me too. I genuinely believe that "gaydar" does not work across sexes. A gay man can not pick out a lesbian (aside from the blatantly to fairly obvious). Much like how straight people don't have gaydar as pertains to their sex. ie. straight men may have a form of it with regards to lesbians, but not to gay men (again aside from the obvious).

Zulu
03-29-2007, 11:53 AM
It's hard to find a purebread lesbian though. The t.a.t.u. factor is still running around.

The Green Trench Coat
03-29-2007, 12:10 PM
you guys have any lesbian friends?

I went out to a lesbian bar in the city here and man .. it's an intimadating thing. the bouncer at the door was this chick that was bigger than me.
I made the mistake of walking in before the rest of my party and man.. i thought she was gonna eat me. .. in the bad way.
i was actually literrally intimidated.

Azagtoth
03-29-2007, 12:17 PM
you guys have any lesbian friends?

I went out to a lesbian bar in the city here and man .. it's an intimadating thing. the bouncer at the door was this chick that was bigger than me.
I made the mistake of walking in before the rest of my party and man.. i thought she was gonna eat me. .. in the bad way.
i was actually literrally intimidated.

I do. The first day I met her, I was REALLY interested in her (we got along so damn well), so I got her number, and ended up finding out she was a lesbian.

The Green Trench Coat
03-29-2007, 12:24 PM
I do. The first day I met her, I was REALLY interested in her (we got along so damn well), so I got her number, and ended up finding out she was a lesbian.

hey i've got pics for you to look at. hit me up tonight if you can and I'll send you some.

LightningStorm
03-29-2007, 12:25 PM
you guys have any lesbian friends?


Yep, one of my best friends is a lesbian. Back in high school before we were out (to anybody including each other) we actually dated. Then in our adult life found out each other was gay and were both like :wow:

The Green Trench Coat
03-29-2007, 12:31 PM
Yep, one of my best friends is a lesbian. Back in high school before we were out (to anybody including each other) we actually dated. Then in our adult life found out each other was gay and were both like :wow:

See now it didn't go so well with my ex girlfriend.

she left me at graduation for a girl and for some reason she's been pissed at me ever since..

well i guess that's not true she stopped talking to me pretty soon after all this happend.. i guess if i met her again maybe she'd feel differently.

Adam Warlock
03-29-2007, 02:50 PM
you guys have any lesbian friends?

I went out to a lesbian bar in the city here and man .. it's an intimadating thing. the bouncer at the door was this chick that was bigger than me.
I made the mistake of walking in before the rest of my party and man.. i thought she was gonna eat me. .. in the bad way.
i was actually literrally intimidated.

She sounds sexy.

Zulu
03-29-2007, 02:55 PM
I have a lesbian friend. She looks like Amy Whinehouse. She's pretty blunt which is really sexy.

Shotokan Symphony
03-29-2007, 03:07 PM
She sounds sexy.

she probably would sound sexier to Warlock if she looked like this (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=20379671&albumId=0).

Adam Warlock
03-29-2007, 04:07 PM
she probably would sound sexier to Warlock if she looked like this (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=20379671&albumId=0).

I'm pretty sure that'sa guy which makes him your territory.

Shotokan Symphony
03-29-2007, 04:11 PM
nah, you're not picky. you just pick folds for frigging.
haha, j/k
In any case, hope to see you soon Rob, praying that nothing goes wrong this weekend.

Adam Warlock
03-29-2007, 04:41 PM
nah, you're not picky. you just pick folds for frigging.
haha, j/k
In any case, hope to see you soon Rob, praying that nothing goes wrong this weekend.
I got brave and checked the main page and it's a fucking crossdresser like I thought.

Pablo_the_Mex
03-29-2007, 04:55 PM
I give the gay people on SRK props for being out in the open like this and the level of maturity for a forum based on fighting games is pleasantly surprising.

I have belonged to another forum for years (based on cars/automotive enthusiasts) and never will you see someone come out, you may as well say you enjoy eating babies or something along those lines.

The_Beast
03-29-2007, 07:43 PM
lol, nice. Me too. I genuinely believe that "gaydar" does not work across sexes. A gay man can not pick out a lesbian (aside from the blatantly to fairly obvious). Much like how straight people don't have gaydar as pertains to their sex. ie. straight men may have a form of it with regards to lesbians, but not to gay men (again aside from the obvious).

I call bullshit on this. I have gaydar and whoredar so I know what to avoid and what to pick up. I can spot gay men too, even if they aren't flaming.

Kix
03-29-2007, 08:42 PM
If you're looking for sins to cleanse then go harrass the porn thread or something.

Oh, I've considered it, the opportunity never really presented itself. :angel:

The Green Trench Coat
03-30-2007, 06:34 AM
Oh, I've considered it, the opportunity never really presented itself. :angel:

you'd think the fact that it's .. i don't know.. a PORN thread would be enough. Masturbation is a sin right? spread the word.


In any case, hope to see you soon Rob, praying that nothing goes wrong this weekend.

see you sunday.

I give the gay people on SRK props for being out in the open like this and the level of maturity for a forum based on fighting games is pleasantly surprising.

I have belonged to another forum for years (based on cars/automotive enthusiasts) and never will you see someone come out, you may as well say you enjoy eating babies or something along those lines.

yeah.. but i guess you could say that all those people that like going down on a girl enjoy putting licking a frequently bloody orafice(sp?) but whatever. To each there own right?

this level of "maturity" took lots of time an arguing to forge.. i hope we can stay at this level and above.

I call bullshit on this. I have gaydar and whoredar so I know what to avoid and what to pick up. I can spot gay men too, even if they aren't flaming.

Whoredar!!??!

*pulls out notebook*
"that's too serious I've got to write this down"
*deep breath*
"whore dar... It's so simple yet so good."

props.
You and adrian come out with the best expressions dude.

LightningStorm
03-30-2007, 07:45 AM
I can spot gay men too, even if they aren't flaming.

I knew you'd say this. And no, you can't. You've only ever pointed out the blatantly obvious.

The_Beast
03-30-2007, 08:52 AM
I knew you'd say this. And no, you can't. You've only ever pointed out the blatantly obvious.

And I knew that you'd say that. Hmmm, we shall see. I would state you as an example, but it took a few months of observing you for that to really sink in before I just asked you. Plus the fact is that it wasn't/isn't relevant in our friendship. Unless we start tag teaming couples......lol


Whoredar!!??!

*pulls out notebook*
"that's too serious I've got to write this down"
*deep breath*
"whore dar... It's so simple yet so good."

props.
You and adrian come out with the best expressions dude.

Thanks.

DrumlinerJoe
03-30-2007, 01:25 PM
I got another number last night. Fuck it if I can't find someone nice I might as well get a good lay in.

The Green Trench Coat
03-30-2007, 04:52 PM
I got another number last night. Fuck it if I can't find someone nice I might as well get a good lay in.

heh .. well have fun.

hang in there Joe.

The Green Trench Coat
03-31-2007, 12:04 AM
and with that another birthday passes me by.

didn't do much went to work went to CF and played third strike then went out for a few beers and went home. all in all a good night.

Kuenai
03-31-2007, 01:27 AM
yeah.. but i guess you could say that all those people that like going down on a girl enjoy putting licking a frequently bloody orafice(sp?) but whatever. To each there own right?

this level of "maturity" took lots of time an arguing to forge.. i hope we can stay at this level and above.

Ugh... you NEVER go down on a bloody orifice. I have to say that oral just isn't that enjoyable under such circumstances :sweat: fingers ftw. Wait.... showers FTW :lovin: It isn't that frequent, though. Once a month or so for 5 days or so. On b.c., my last girl was on a 2 month cycle, and those on Depo are on three month cycles. Can't imagine that anyone's package is the cleanest at the end of the day, either. There'll be more bacteria for sure. The vagina is acidic.

Maturity? :wonder: I suppose it exists in this thread :rofl:

LightningStorm
03-31-2007, 08:59 AM
Can't imagine that anyone's package is the cleanest at the end of the day, either. There'll be more bacteria for sure.


More than when the day started? For sure. But let's talk facts here. Every exposed part of the human body is considerably more "dirty" and bacterially covered than the non exposed parts. Yes that means your arms, face, and hands (especially your hands) are considerably more "dirty" than the other parts of your body considered to be so, like genitalia and feet. In fact the human mouth has more bacteria than genitalia. The two dirtiest part of a human are actually the mouth and hands. Which of those is dirtier on average is debatable. And no, not even the ass is as dirty as the mouth. The ass just has the unfortunate distinction of what bacteria does exist there smells awful and leads us to believe it is the worst part of the body.

So discussing oral sex... Kissing your partner after a long day is FAR worse than giving them head after a long day. In fact I'd go so far as to say kissing your partner one hour after they brushed their teeth is worse than giving them head two days after their last shower. So your genitalia isn't dirty until someone goes and puts their nasty-ass mouth there.

Mechanica
03-31-2007, 12:35 PM
I got another number last night. Fuck it if I can't find someone nice I might as well get a good lay in.

Cool, g'luck man. :wgrin:

and with that another birthday passes me by.

didn't do much went to work went to CF and played third strike then went out for a few beers and went home. all in all a good night.

Happy birthday, man! :party: :party: :bgrin: WOOOOOO!!

The two dirtiest part of a human are actually the mouth and hands. Which of those is dirtier on average is debatable.

I hate when you try to explain to people how dirty hands are and they're in denial that their hands are dirtier than the rest of them because they wash their hands and use their useless hand sanitizer and shit. I don't understand how you can try to deny it, if you just sit down and think about it for a minute.