What would you do against a complete newbie?

[rising_player]

So your up against someone that you know they got no chance of winning against you, not even if you let them kill your first two character and your third character was dan.


Would you totally own them and get on with the next match against another opponent that you would actually enjoy facing against because he doesn't suck.

or

Would you go easy on the guy and let him have some fun.

[Green]

I try not to put myself in situations like that.

Although this one time I tried to beat someone with just Mag's s.hp.

[tharimrattler]

Try to get a perfect.

[sealhunta]

it depends if i know a new better person is waiting to play me. sometimes i let them get close. like i dont use any assits or hyper comboes and see how far i can get. i start my 3rd character on point and see what is gwanning.

or i go all beasty. but only if i have like a magneto and i can get a perfect or OCV or just plain ownage. like if i can get uber ownage then ill go for it but if not ill just fool around.

once time i had team scrub and this guy spent liek 5 bucks playing me and i was just foolin around going easy but then one match, right from the start igot him inthe corner so i just had to test out my corner combo techqniues. it was fuckign discusting man. i did like 6 corner comboes total and killed is whoel tema in liek 15-20 secounds he had a heart attack yo he was like "how did that happened" lol omg but most of the time im facing the god tier of my school so most of the time im losing

[gouki10]

i always rape them.

especially if there is a friend of mine waiting to play, i hate it when a scrub comes up, and kills the rotation.

If the scrub still keeps playing, then i talk to them, and let them know what is going on.

[randomsuper]

always rape them. mercy is for the weak. if you take it easy on them, they think they have a chance and waste their tokens and your time. rape them so they can go play a racing game or something.

[Ghaleon]

Crush.

Pitiful Scum.

[shoultzula]

I perfected some little kid a few years ago with s\d.:rofl:

I had to come up around street fighter OG's and there was no such thing as an easy win. When you earned one, you were good enough to be called a scrub. Then you can start moving up on the ladder.

[Jin Cena]

I once beat a little kid with Sabretooth/Cable/Ken without even using Cable. Little kids are the worst though. Them coming up to play makes me just want to leave the arcade half the time. :rolleyes:

[True Grave]

So your up against someone that you know they got no chance of winning against you, not even if you let them kill your first two character and your third character was dan.
Would you totally own them and get on with the next match against another opponent that you would actually enjoy facing against because he doesn't suck.
or
Would you go easy on the guy and let him have some fun.

When playing against noobs and other players who i know can't touch me, I usually try to tone down my play level and stop myself from totally PWNING them.

Far too often I've seen noobs step up to the machine, get destroyed with no mercy and take the loss hard(being noobs afterall). Then they might give up. I try to build up their confidence and motivation to learn more about the game and the characters they choose, by taking it easy a bit.

I feel bad when I destroy noobs, It is a very shallow victory and proves/accomplishes nothing whatsoever.

Really fellas, don't we all want more players coming around? By smashing newbies all the time, you are hurting chances of newer competition one day coming up.

As well as further dooming games like MVC2 to a "niche only" audience: being the old time vets and nothing more.

[#reload]

if the arcade is empty, i go easy on them so they'll keep playing me... i hate playing against computers

[shoultzula]

Really fellas, don't we all want more players coming around? By smashing newbies all the time, you are hurting chances of newer competition one day coming up.

As well as further dooming games like MVC2 to a "niche only" audience: being the old time vets and nothing more.

lol

street fighter is OG as fuck. The game goes back 15+ years. Any street fighter game against a decent player and YOU WILL get smoked. It doesn't matter if its super turbo, alpha 3, xvsf, 3s, mvc2. Any decent player will smoke a noobie for free.

anyone who's ever been good @ anything has started from the bottom. If you really wanted to get good @ something, you'd play regardless of how bad you lost because eventually you won't suck so bad much longer. Anyone who understands this concept and is willing to play street fighter are the type of people I want to come up. Not average joes who don't give a fuck up. You have to get your ass kicked before you start winning. Its just that simple.

games like tekken have more player base because its much easier to pick up and play by comparison to other streeet fighter games. It has incredible depth w\ simplistic gameplay.

[shoryuken1030]

i always rape them.

especially if there is a friend of mine waiting to play, i hate it when a scrub comes up, and kills the rotation.

If the scrub still keeps playing, then i talk to them, and let them know what is going on.


<-Exactly how I feel and would Do!!!:rofl:

[tech master]

go easy, then rape them half way through. you want them to come back to up your win streak LOL

[50mOrEcEnTz]

give them all hats with sentinel =)

[RyanC]

do you really want someone who doesn't have that killer instinct playing marvel???
I don't know about you other players but i don't want some noob messing up the rotation thinking he's good. I've gotten destroyed when i barely knew how to play sfII. By grown men. There was no mercy at all. All it made me want to do was go to the arcade or home, practice and get better. When i played MVC2 i got destroyed. But that actually made me buy the game 8 years ago which i still have today. I vote destroy them. if the arcade is empty and they aren't jerks or 6 years old then give them a tip or two. But my philosophy is get quicker or die.

[randomsuper]

i still remember the exact moment i wanted to become good at cvs2. i was playing at the local arcade and i was new to the neighborhhod and stepped up to play the resident champ with the usual arcade goers chilling waiting for their turn. the match starts and he turns his head and starts talking and i hit fp with rugal and hit his vega. i didn't know he wasn't paying attention and give him the old "you can get a hit in, my bad" speech and he just looks at me and says "don't worry about it, you're gonna lose anyways." i got clowned. from then on i just worked to get better. less than a year later, that guy couldn't touch me. to this day i rape him for free.

so when i hear someone give me the don't rape noobs speech, i just remember what getting clowned and raped did for me. it only made me a better player. besides, no one starts at the top.

[True Grave]

go easy, then rape them half way through. you want them to come back to up your win streak LOL

First off, what value does having a win streak against noobs give? Nothing. Sure you could own a group of them with a end streak of 32 wins, but what does that prove? You beat up on some newbies, thats it.

*Any* veteran player can do that if he wants.

Second, just because you can own a bunch of noobs does not mean you should. Unless you love shallow, meaningless victory's perhaps.

so when i hear someone give me the don't rape noobs speech, i just remember what getting clowned and raped did for me. it only made me a better player. besides, no one starts at the top.

Not everyone gets motivated by being destroyed. A lot of newbs around, depending on the level of destruction, will just be discouraged and leave.

I've also seen some newbs that I took it easy on, and it actually encouraged them to try harder. Months later they still can't touch me, but have improved A lot over where they were.

Had I just been a dick and made it my mission to destroy them no matter what, those guys probably wouldn't be playing today and would have given up long ago. They'd have looked at MVC2 as something like rocket science, that was just too complicated for them to figure out.

[tech master]

First off, what value does having a win streak against noobs give? Nothing. Sure you could own a group of them with a end streak of 32 wins, but what does that prove? You beat up on some newbies, thats it.

*Any* veteran player can do that if he wants.

Second, just because you can own a bunch of noobs does not mean you should. Unless you love shallow, meaningless victory's perhaps.


oh gawd, anytime someone posts with a capital "LOL" at the end, the comment should be open to sarcastic interpretation.

sorry if my remarks don't follow some unwritten marvel code of honor "thou shall not go easy on thy noobs"

video games are meant for fun buddy, sorry if i make somebodies 25-50 cents a little more enjoyable :rolleyes:

everytime you play marvel doesnt mean you should be mono-expression during your eager path to marvel development of a marvel prodigy :rofl:

[randomsuper]

i seriously feel that beating a noob quichly is better for them in the end. if nothing else, they'll put their quarters to better use on another game.

[tech master]

i can go easy on a noob, and he'll still feel like he's gotten destroyed. when i was a noob and got murdered, yea it enticed me to practice. but instead of playing again, i'd go home and practice which didnt do anything for game strategy. you can't learn too much if you're getting perfected.

[randomsuper]

the only way to get good is to play and lose. what are you really learning if the person playing against you is taking it easy? when i play someone and i win and they aren't very good at the game, i'll try and give them advice if they ask for it, or make simple suggestions or even take the time to show them how to do specials or simple combos or whatever. experience makes a player better. they can practice combos or whatever against in 1 player.

[Insomniac487]

When playing against noobs and other players who i know can't touch me, I usually try to tone down my play level and stop myself from totally PWNING them.

Far too often I've seen noobs step up to the machine, get destroyed with no mercy and take the loss hard(being noobs afterall). Then they might give up. I try to build up their confidence and motivation to learn more about the game and the characters they choose, by taking it easy a bit.

I feel bad when I destroy noobs, It is a very shallow victory and proves/accomplishes nothing whatsoever.

Really fellas, don't we all want more players coming around? By smashing newbies all the time, you are hurting chances of newer competition one day coming up.

As well as further dooming games like MVC2 to a "niche only" audience: being the old time vets and nothing more.



i'm with you on this one. I never beast noobs. just like you, I take it easy.. pratice some resets/combos, etc. At the same time let them get a few hits on me too. Also I give them tips & advice and in doing so, that just motivates them to want to get the game / get a joystick and get a lot better.

If i can make somebody's day a bit better by giving advice, helping them, training them a bit, etc.. then that makes me feel good. both in marvel and everday life stuff (like soccer or something).

[Violent By Design]

You shouldn't go easy on him. When two people are playing in the arcade, they are putting their money against each other to try and defeat the other guy off the machine.

This is the way of the arcade. Show the "New Challenger" no mercy.

[True Grave]

i'm with you on this one. I never beast noobs. just like you, I take it easy.. pratice some resets/combos, etc. At the same time let them get a few hits on me too. Also I give them tips & advice and in doing so, that just motivates them to want to get the game / get a joystick and get a lot better.

If i can make somebody's day a bit better by giving advice, helping them, training them a bit, etc.. then that makes me feel good. both in marvel and everday life stuff (like soccer or something).

Yeah those who target noobs for a beat down like some members speak of in here, knowing they can't do anything about it, is like the arcade-equivalent of bullying. Only pricks do it, and it is not right regardless of what excuses they give.

10 years from now when the MVC2 scene is either dead, or has no new blood and just populated by some of the old-time vets, they'll have only themselves to blame.

The only time I condone destroying newbies is when they come up to the machine with an attitude, and talking crap. For their own good those guys NEED to be knocked down a peg or two, and shown what level they're really on(plus I don't like jackasses at the machine)

You shouldn't go easy on him. When two people are playing in the arcade, they are putting their money against each other to try and defeat the other guy off the machine.

This is the way of the arcade. Show the "New Challenger" no mercy.

That is a very "noob" way of thinking ya got there. There's more to arcade gaming than simply winning and nothing more.

[Deathfist]

When I play against weak players, I still fight my hardest to defeat them, I just choose characters that I'm nowhere near as good with as the ones I normally use. That way at least they have a fighting chance. That or I deliberately avoid playing the player completely, and wait till they're done. Occasionally, I will try to demonstrate stuff with their team or characters that they might be unaware of that may prove beneficial.

Eventually, I gain the ability to tone down my play after a few games so that I can make the match more enjoyable, but whatever.

I'm of the persuasion that if I don't punish your mistakes, you won't learn from them. I try to help them to defeat their vulnerabilities and enhance their strengths. I'd only hope people would be that opened with me.

[RedSilverAnakris]

use a team that no one has ever seen. Worked for me, its hard work, but its interesting.

[BeaTs*]

depends on the noob.

some will take getting beasted well and learn and whatnot.

some won't...but if you go nice on them they can keep playing and they can learn to play and learn that bloodshed gameplay.

personally I try practicing some new combos or practice with some low tier teams.

[BeaTs*]

I'm of the persuasion that if I don't punish your mistakes, you won't learn from them. I try to help them to defeat their vulnerabilities and enhance their strengths. I'd only hope people would be that opened with me.

yes something along the lines of this. I somtimes try to play a teaching game with them. punish things they do (though not as bad, like just a fierce or a launcher)

Try to make it pretty glaring (obvious).

like air dashing around their "offense" and doing a simple poke. and then tell them what they should do. or punish assists by just a simple launcher (lightly, don't neccessarily kill them)

especially noobs who just keeps attacking, I'll launch them but do nothing and wait for them to come down and launch again. whaddaya know, they were trying to come in with an attack. do it enough times and they'll learn. (though sometime you do have to tell to stop attacking and learn to block)

do things like that. it's better than beasting and better than just taking it easy.

sorry for the double post

[dann]

against noobs, i start off really hard (cuz you never know, the could have been messing around when you were watching them), and ease up if i find out that they really can't do much at all.

the other day at the arcade, someone was playing, a real newb, and a friend and i wanted to play, so i challenged the person. turns out it was a girl -- did not look it from the backside -- and she was fresh beyond belief. couldn't let her win...

also, some scrub came by the arcade, but i actually lost. the next time i played him, i totally raped him, but going easy on people who use cable/sent does too much damage with supers.

[DJTPC]

Beat him hard, but not as much as to discourage him from coming back to the game

[sealhunta]

i like the above poster who talked about showing them their flaws in their offense but launching them but then u dont fully punish their mistakes. its like ur telling them
"your technique is weak grasshoppa"

and dont use assists lol

[rYo_sakaZaki]

i used to get "bullied" when i was starting with santhrax... so i don't fight beginers... but if they are the one who'd challenge me, then i'll show them my stuff...

if they are stubborn, i fight them with commando and try to ocv them...

[ILLiterate]

A number of options come to me

Normal it's these
1. Try new things like combos or characters I normally wouldn't
2. ALWAYS pull out a Dan Hibiki and try and get an Otoko Michi in

But once in a while...
3. Lose once real bad, try and get them confident and then money match them and wreck em