The Woman/Girl Thread: Sex, Relationships, FAQs Pt. 2

[SF_PHOCUS]

geez DAZ that was a good fuckin read....

Honestly shit like that is hard to analyze.. like me for instance... I know exactly how to talk to girls blah blah blah.. but if someone says to me phocus how did u bag wat did u say.. ill say i dont know i just went up to her and did my thing... its not until recently i started paying attention to wat i was doin....

ill post a pic of her in like 5 mins..
lol i think i might make her my lead pitcher smh... thanksgiving potroast got me lol...

[Dasiatic]

geez DAZ that was a good fuckin read....

Honestly shit like that is hard to analyze.. like me for instance... I know exactly how to talk to girls blah blah blah.. but if someone says to me phocus how did u bag wat did u say.. ill say i dont know i just went up to her and did my thing... its not until recently i started paying attention to wat i was doin....

ill post a pic of her in like 5 mins..
lol i think i might make her my lead pitcher smh... thanksgiving potroast got me lol...

my nigga, she was nice and plump like a thanksgiving potroast. her face was stuffed with fat, and she rocks it well. i mean, damn she cute. you should've taken a booty pic.
why did'nt you do it? not even jesus christ knows.

and yeah, part of fine tuning your game is to know exactly what happens during an approach and shit. realize what you're doing, so you can know what works and what does'nt.

while you're at it, send that other pic of the girl you said who i can wash up on. she white or something?

[akumatrunigga]

Long one
I see where you are coming from one cant really knock it.


where the hell the av is from?

[fistoftheryustar]

I feel that, i can't drive either, poor eyesight from eye surgeries when I was kid.

Nothing to be ashamed about, you just have to do stuff differently.


Yeah man I feel you, but the question here is how?




Girls like my deodorant too.

If you're 20, your parents shouldn't be driving your dates around.

Learn to drive. Hurt leg or not. It's been too long as it is.


Yeah man but thatll take a long ass while. That is my ultimate goal but its about what do I do in the meantime? Usually I just get the girl to drive for me, but this time its different.

[Dasiatic]

I see where you are coming from one cant really knock it.


where the hell the av is from?

uh, thanks? i guess that was a compliment, right?
i suck at reading through plain text. My av? ok...

Crazy Story time from Dasiatic. I've told Sas this story too, but ill share this story with only you for now. So one time in Mahthatten, i was driving in my 2008 Jeep Compass with my niggas, off to Viacom on Broadway to gey my check. I casualy strolled into the past the sound recording studios, and grabbed my fucking paper check, turned around only to get stopped by none other than a fat, white, hairless Grimace. Serously, she was so fat and ugly, i could'nt een begin...oh my god. she was ugly.

so being the nice nigga that i am, i talked with her. Turns out that she's the voice actress behind some characters from MegaMan EXE, Hack Roots, Bratz, and this very anime i have on my avatar, Black Lagoon. I forogt her name, because i could NOT pronounce it.

I think her name is Maryke Hendrikse. damn she was ugly. but she was real humble and nice to talk to. what did we talk about? well, i remember one of our topics being about hiphop. she actually likes hiphop. wow,right?
anyway, she was coming back from a pending appointment on whether she was going to star in Black Lagoon's Second Barrage. I got curious, and picked up some DVDs of this anime.
The anime was crazy, i tell you. I finally got to listen to her voice on the DVDs, and boy she sounds different. she sounded like a demented bitch from hell. She's the red haired girl on my av. not sure if you can see it well, though.

[Mr. Bastos]

oops sorry about that i was a bit confused with what you said it is all good.

i kind of do that but what i use is baby oil, baby lotion and baby powder before i put the cologne at times i wont bother with the cologne cuz using all three makes a pretty nice scent. I use this (http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp?id=prod3460675&CATID=100361&skuid=sku3459518&V=G&ec=frgl_wic&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=sku3459518) (yep Cucumber Melon of the baby oil, lotion and powder) shit my skin feels so soft and chicks go wild when they feel on a dude.

yeah baby lotion is the shit, I use the "bedtime lotion" smells good, yet not overly feminine

anyhow, I need to check out this Issey Miyake. I've been wearing Polo Sport since high school and have just been too lazy to change..

[Havoc]

Sure... but clearly you haven't been doing much work at that ultimate goal if you're 20 and still asking mom for a ride.

You need to get on that.

In the meantime... I don't know... buy a skateboard.

[MrBlank]

Lets play a game: Answer a Shit Test / Give a Shit Test.

Basically you start off by answering a previous shit test that someone posted.

then you ask a shit test for another poster to answer. here are some examples

ST: "I bet you say this to all the girls"

Poster belows Reply: "But this is the first time i actually meant it"

Now poster posts his own shit test: ST: "I'm way out of your league"

Next Poster Reply: "Well its ok i give average girls a chance anyway, maybe you have a winning personality"

Now he posts his shit test: "Eww you smell bad"

Get it?

There is no truly correct way to reply but these are definitely options to consider and increase your chances at passing a persons shit tests.

since im first ill start it off:

Shit Test: "didn't you say you were looking for your friends?"

[Dasiatic]

Shit Test: "didn't you say you were looking for your friends?"

response: "yeah, they must've gotten lost. they'd call me on my cell if anything. why cant you hold a simple straight conversation without straying off topic?"

yeah, that shit test you posted was a little too broad. there are many ways to handle that one depending on what situation you're in. I could've been waiting on my firends to show up, you know. thats the mindset i put myself in for that one.

mines: "so you find me attractive?"
this is a very hard one. beware. females are looking for the usual male response which gives the female a validation of her sexual power over you. mess this up, and the whole date can go wrong.

[SF_PHOCUS]

my nigga, she was nice and plump like a thanksgiving potroast. her face was stuffed with fat, and she rocks it well. i mean, damn she cute. you should've taken a booty pic.
why did'nt you do it? not even jesus christ knows.

and yeah, part of fine tuning your game is to know exactly what happens during an approach and shit. realize what you're doing, so you can know what works and what does'nt.

while you're at it, send that other pic of the girl you said who i can wash up on. she white or something?

Nah she black... Iight a lil background story... I knew her in HS she was a grade under me.. I was interested then... i got cool wif her and wat not... after she graduates we still talked... but she was frontin so i was gettin less and less interested... she came to my house one time when a few of my niggas was playin dominoes... we chilled i flirted wif her alil... nothin.. she came over one time again... same bull shit... she fronted again... Now im like fuck this im done now... now like in september she came thru wif one of my friends... hes tryna mess wif her now... So im like hell no im def done... lol the whole time shes there wif him and me she flirted wif me the whole time like "I missed you" while huggin me a lil... (she goes to school away) So my boy dips and she stays... SHE FRONTS AGAIN... So i was like alright im deletin her number.... So she hits me up a few times online up until that convo..
Body wise shes slim.. she has a lil fatty though! and she has a nice flattt stomach wif a belly ring... this is the only pic i could find right now though...
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v154/102/103/80600499/s80600499_30461264_9767.jpg

[MrBlank]

mines: "so you find me attractive?"


These are all open ended. as i stated before you cant get these truly correct because anything can happen.

Reply: "Wow i didnt think you were that shallow *Smirk*, if you need someone to verify if your pretty i'm sure there are plenty of shallow guys around here to fulfill your need. (then slowly start to turn from the convo while saying) Man and here i was thinking she was different from the others"

Shit test: "Are you trying to get me in your bed?"

[Dasiatic]

Nah she black... Iight a lil background story... I knew her in HS she was a grade under me.. I was interested then... i got cool wif her and wat not... after she graduates we still talked... but she was frontin so i was gettin less and less interested... she came to my house one time when a few of my niggas was playin dominoes... we chilled i flirted wif her alil... nothin.. she came over one time again... same bull shit... she fronted again... Now im like fuck this im done now... now like in september she came thru wif one of my friends... hes tryna mess wif her now... So im like hell no im def done... lol the whole time shes there wif him and me she flirted wif me the whole time like "I missed you" while huggin me a lil... (she goes to school away) So my boy dips and she stays... SHE FRONTS AGAIN... So i was like alright im deletin her number.... So she hits me up a few times online up until that convo..
Body wise shes slim.. she has a lil fatty though! and she has a nice flattt stomach wif a belly ring... this is the only pic i could find right now though...
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v154/102/103/80600499/s80600499_30461264_9767.jpg

so the guy leaves your house, and she STILL tries to play games? after all this time? HS and all? i cant stand females like that either. I just assume she's a virgin and is intimidated about anything serious happening. you should've just straight up ignored her. waste of time. this is the female that will stall on you everytime there is she feels like you two are advancing on a deeper connection.

[ChunLi]

mines: "so you find me attractive?"
this is a very hard one. beware. females are looking for the usual male response which gives the female a validation of her sexual power over you. mess this up, and the whole date can go wrong.

any chic who asks you that question... u need to run.. quickly.. they are just looking for drama...

[SF_PHOCUS]

mines: "so you find me attractive?"


Response: "What are you insecure? I bet your the jealous type too huh?:lovin:"

Mine: Could you buy me a drink?? (this girl you met in the club and u engaged her in a convo... respond so not to mess up the bagging process) HA!!!

[R.P.D rookie]

Shit test: "Are you trying to get me in your bed?"



Explain this "shit test", I'm feeling extra dense today. I also had this question pulled one me.

[Havoc]

Oh no... another one's about to be corrupted...

[SF_PHOCUS]

after you say something, she all of the sudden ascts as thought she's offended.
example: "you're pretty interesting, ect, ect, ect..."
she responds with "What you say?" expecting you to go on your knees in apology like every other man.

(Clears throat) Response: <nudge her on the side for a lil kino test> "Awwww poor baby.! C'mon it was a joke! <lifts up shirtsleeve> "ok come u could give me a lil punch" <she swings and I move> "nuhh uhh uhh". the whole point was to take the tension off lol:rofl:

[MrBlank]

Explain this "shit test", I'm feeling extra dense today. I also had this question pulled one me.

well i was hoping someone had their own reply for this one:

This is the one ive field tested.

"*just look at her and laugh* well if you have a bathtub, that also works! *then roll your eyes* Man you swear i give this away girl. You gotta "Earn" any sort of time with me. you'z a pervert! *big smile*

[Dasiatic]

Response: "What are you insecure? I bet your the jealous type too huh?:lovin:"

Mine: Could you buy me a drink??

"oh no, dont try that club shit on me. im not your average wussy boy. here's 2 bucks, you BUY ME a drink"
ok, the last part was just for fun. but you get the picture.

Explain this "shit test", I'm feeling extra dense today. I also had this question pulled one me.
read my above posts. that will answer you, son.

any chic who asks you that question... u need to run.. quickly.. they are just looking for drama...

could be. they could be trying to suck you into a sexual relationship too quickly as well. ive never thought of that at first. yeah, drama can follow as well. you're right.



Shit test: "Are you trying to get me in your bed?"

"sorry, you're a real good friend to me. i just cant"
DAMN I KILLED IT!!!! I KILLED IT!!!!

anyway, here's another shit test for you fags..

after you say something, she all of the sudden ascts as thought she's offended.
example: "you're pretty interesting, ect, ect, ect..."
she responds with "What you say?" expecting you to go on your knees in apology like every other man.

[SF_PHOCUS]

I really hope we could do some sort of bagging game evo... FOR REAL lol

[Havoc]

You guys don't actually hit the streets with this bullshit, do you?

[SF_PHOCUS]

You guys don't actually hit the streets with this bullshit, do you?

why not?

[Dasiatic]

I really hope we could do some sort of bagging game evo... FOR REAL lol

yeah, i wish i could meet up with you guys. it would be awesome. my nigga BLANK is not going to win. thats for sure.

You guys don't actually hit the streets with this bullshit, do you?

im sorry, what? We are talking about Social Masks, right? different story. you're off topic and missed your target. We dont walk the streets spewing out these doctrines unless we have to. dont think you can run around the streets screaming random shit out there with women, and it works. body language and proper execuation comes into play. over this forum, we are dealing with naked dialouge of things. unless you see it action, you wont get it.

[MrBlank]

You guys don't actually hit the streets with this bullshit, do you?

they are shit tests: these are on the streets. there is no approaching women without hearing some shit tests.

[Dasiatic]

they are shit tests: these are on the streets. there is no approaching women without hearing some shit tests.

i shouldve said that. when approaching women, you ARE going to meet those types of girls who will test you. no doubt. learning these common tests and how you can respond can help you win.

[MrBlank]

yeah, i wish i could meet up with you guys. it would be awesome. my nigga BLANK is not going to win. thats for sure

*stares at Das* what did you say bro? i couldnt hear you with these ladies cat fighting over me. can you repeat that? :rofl:

[Dasiatic]

*stares at Das* what did you say bro? i couldnt hear you with these ladies cat fighting over me. can you repeat that? :rofl:

llol. yeah, there's no way my voice can ever drown out the manly voices from those hermaphrodites you have fighting over you. no way. lol.

[MrBlank]

llol. yeah, there's no way my voice can ever drown out the manly voices from those hermaphrodites you have fighting over you. no way. lol.

well if you keep taking me to these bootsie clubs i got not choice but to hawla at yo ex's.

[Oroman]

anyway, here's another shit test for you fags..

after you say something, she all of the sudden ascts as thought she's offended.
example: "you're pretty interesting, ect, ect, ect..."
she responds with "What you say?" expecting you to go on your knees in apology like every other man.

I'd tell her to clean out her ears.

[Dasiatic]

I'd tell her to clean out her ears.

oh shit, this nigga got balls. no homo. that was funny. anyone else want to try?


well if you keep taking me to these bootsie clubs i got not choice but to hawla at yo ex's.

lol. good game.

[Oroman]

oh shit, this nigga got balls. no homo. that was funny. anyone else want to try?




lol. good game.

Alright I got one, the dates going well when she reveals she has 2 kids after she lied and said she had none. What would you do?

[hold dat]

geez DAZ that was a good fuckin read....

Honestly shit like that is hard to analyze.. like me for instance... I know exactly how to talk to girls blah blah blah.. but if someone says to me phocus how did u bag wat did u say.. ill say i dont know i just went up to her and did my thing... its not until recently i started paying attention to wat i was doin....

ill post a pic of her in like 5 mins..
lol i think i might make her my lead pitcher smh... thanksgiving potroast got me lol...

I didnt discover my "talent" till after high school and i started clubbing. i'm ok lookin i think but for some reason i can say almost anything to girls and i get away with it. Either they dont take me seriously or its this harmless face below.

http://img160.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=th_96170_714576196_m_122_859lo.jpg

2 days ago i was waiting for my train at city hall, this tall beautiful black girl walks by and i blurt out "damn...you play ball?" she started laughin, i kept it going and i got the number. shit like that is so random it amazes me, i'm shocked she didnt curse me out

and when Phocus and the rest of you guys start droppin the knowledge on here, makes me step up my game even more.

here's a pic of homegirl i'm trying to get at now... i been in meetings all day so i havent had a chance to try Phocus' idea but i will. she's on the right

http://img164.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=98305_l_0fa33efe25e8d1d910f02eeb6082 6649_122_959lo.jpg

[SF_PHOCUS]

Alright I got one, the dates going well when she reveals she has 2 kids after she lied and said she had none. What would you do?

"oh yeah?? I love kids... <put my hand in my pocket and presses volume on my nextel so my phone rings> "hello? yehh..! He's WHERE????!?! OH MY GOSH!!!! ALRIGHT I'M COMIN RIGHT NOW!!!! "hey listen my dog just licked some anti freeze and they rushed him to the vet!! I have to go"! lol i actually did something like this before too...

[Dasiatic]

Alright I got one, the dates going well when she reveals she has 2 kids after she lied and said she had none. What would you do?

that is'nt even a shit test. oh my, you're terrible. well, good thing i have found a loophole to this. since we are still dating, and nothing serious had happened i assume. I'll just call the date short and leave. Dasiastic owns once again!

I didnt discover my "talent" till after high school and i started clubbing. i'm ok lookin i think but for some reason i can say almost anything to girls and i get away with it. Either they dont take me seriously or its this harmless face below.

http://img164.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=98305_l_0fa33efe25e8d1d910f02eeb6082 6649_122_959lo.jpg

that steve harvey in the middle?

[Dasiatic]

"oh yeah?? I love kids... <put my hand in my pocket and presses volume on my nextel so my phone rings> "hello? yehh..! He's WHERE????!?! OH MY GOSH!!!! ALRIGHT I'M COMIN RIGHT NOW!!!! "hey listen my dog just licked some anti freeze and they rushed him to the vet!! I have to go"! lol i actually did something like this before too...

lol. nice.

[jabhadouken]

Armani Code is more of a nighttime scent.

Yeah.. I guess that's the one other thing. Certain scents play better at night, certain others, during the day.

It's really simple. Light stuff is for daytime, heavier stuff at night.

Yup.

The sporty scents and whatnot are for the daytime.

Slap that musk 'n sandalwood on for the night.

[ChunLi]

Alright I got one, the dates going well when she reveals she has 2 kids after she lied and said she had none. What would you do?

Be happy because you know she's easy and doesn't use protection? *SHRUGS*.. I know you SRK'rs swear by the pull out method. :rofl:

[Oroman]

Be happy because you know she's easy and doesn't use protection? *SHRUGS*.. I know you SRK'rs swear by the pull out method. :rofl:

Good answer, it was supposed to be a shit test but I fucked up :lol:.

[jabhadouken]

Be happy because you know she's easy and doesn't use protection? *SHRUGS*.. I know you SRK'rs swear by the pull out method. :rofl:

And this is generally why you don't hear about geeks getting laid.

Most of 'em who do, die early of AIDS. :rofl:

But seriously... she has 2 kids?

Dude - pull out before you gotta pull out, lol. :rolleyes:

[MrBlank]

Alright I got one, the dates going well when she reveals she has 2 kids after she lied and said she had none. What would you do?

"Good thing i use condoms." :lovin:

Shit Test: "I have a Boyfriend"

PS:Chun you need to throw out some of the shit tests you have used before and see how well we counter some of them jabs.

[Dasiatic]

"Good thing i use condoms." :lovin:

Shit Test: "I have a Boyfriend"



"cool, call him over. we can make this a group date. it'll be fun"

or

"oh, that poor soul"

test: " *pretends to act bored*, im bored. entertain me or something. i thought you were supposed to be interesting"
(only if this is'nt true, and she's just trying to fuck with you)

[MrBlank]

"cool, call him over. we can make this a group date. it'll be fun"

or

"oh, that poor soul"

test: " *pretends to act bored*, im bored. entertain me or something. i thought you were supposed to be interesting"
(only if this is'nt true, and she's just trying to fuck with you)

Reply:

I aint your dancing monkey, how about you buy me a drink instead and we can play a game *Insert bar hustle game*

or

Wow your rude as hell, ill be sure i charge you twice the amount. *smile*

Shit Test: "Me and her are lovers"

*points at sig* oh snap we holdin it down now.

[Silentness!]

I got a serious question... am I ugly? :confused:

no homo, but seriously I'm trying to figure out what all my weaknesses are so that I can actually get HOT girls... not the decent ones that you regret.

I figure these are my cons:

- I'm too passive/quiet (that's why my SRK name is Silentness)
- I'm not aggressive enough so it's easy for me to be put in the friend's category
- I ran out of cons :smile:

These are some pictures I took for the weightlifting thread. I got back on to my high protein diet...
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5571/cheaboyem0.jpg

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4733/cheaboy2uj7.jpg (without the stupid glare)'

Excuse the fact that I'm only in a towel... LMAO this is moments before I took a shower from my workout.

[ChunLi]

I got a serious question... am I ugly? :confused:

no homo, but seriously I'm trying to figure out what all my weaknesses are.

These are some pictures I took for the weightlifting thread. I got back on to my high protein diet...

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5571/cheaboyem0.jpg

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4733/cheaboy2uj7.jpg (without the stupid glare)'

Excuse the fact that I'm only in a towel... LMAO this is moments before I took a shower from my workout.


Nope, you don't look ugly to me.

[Dasiatic]

Reply:

I aint your dancing monkey, how about you buy me a drink instead and we can play a game *Insert bar hustle game*

or

Wow your rude as hell, ill be sure i charge you twice the amount. *smile*

Shit Test: "Me and her are lovers"

*points at sig* oh snap we holdin it down now.

nice answer. i think that was the only way you actually CAN respond in that situation. everything else would be just bad.

your shit test, what do you mean? both of them are females, right?

I'd say some shit like "got room for one more?"
i think they say that to you just so they can watch you be all respectful, and say shit like "i respect you for that, i hope you two are good together and back away".
or they just want to see your face as you stand there not knowing how to respond, just so they can snicker and laugh.
women always do shit like that.
or maybe, she says that just so she can make you go away. who knows.

lol, laugh at your signature. we definatly own this thread.

ok, what if the female starts ranting off about her fucked up relationship with her ex?
she's obviouly expecting you to pamper her with words to make her feel better.
what can you say to her that conveys that you aren't the type to kiss her ass and play the "best friend" role, trying to solve all of her problems?
but at the same time, you dont want to come off heartless?

[Dasiatic]

I got a serious question... am I ugly? :confused:

These are some pictures I took for the weightlifting thread. I got back on to my high protein diet...
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5571/cheaboyem0.jpg

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4733/cheaboy2uj7.jpg (without the stupid glare)'

Excuse the fact that I'm only in a towel... LMAO this is moments before I took a shower from my workout.

you look like a guy i knew from before. but no matter. you're not ugly. no homo x12. ugliness should'nt be a big weakness when it comes to getting laid. i thought this was a pre-school fact by now. as long as you dont look like vomit, you're ok.

Nope, you don't look ugly to me.

lies.

[SF_PHOCUS]

"Good thing i use condoms." :lovin:

Shit Test: "I have a Boyfriend"

PS:Chun you need to throw out some of the shit tests you have used before and see how well we counter some of them jabs.

Response;"WORD????? U GOT A CAMERA MAN???????????"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!:lol:

[SF_PHOCUS]

you look like a guy i knew from before. but no matter. you're not ugly. no homo x12.



lies.

greese... lol at no home x12... more like 24 n shit..:arazz:

Shit test: I dont date black/white guys (or watever you are)

[Silentness!]

I kind of agree with Havoc. I'm through with all the pickup jargon...

It's like people are turning getting girls into Starcraft/Street Fighter replays

[Dasiatic]

greese... lol at no home x12... more like 24 n shit..:arazz:

Shit test: I dont date black/white guys (or watever you are)

should that even be a shit test?
just simply say "its good to know that people are still shallow when it comes to race even in the year 2007"
or make up anything around that idea. nothing more needs to be said. just leave.
walk with your head high, atleast its not like you walked away rejected. you pretty much rejected her as well.

[SF_PHOCUS]

ok, what if the female starts ranting off about her fucked up relationship with her ex?
she's obviouly expecting you to pamper her with words to make her feel better.
what can you say to her that conveys that you aren't the type to kiss her ass and play the "best friend" role, trying to solve all of her problems?
but at the same time, you dont want to come off heartless?

Hmm this is really a tricky one...
Me: "Listen... I still live with my mom... and I'm a virgin... so you dont have to worry about me doin you wrong...(chuckle)". But what you do need to worry about is how much are you charging me for this session???":rofl:

[Dasiatic]

I kind of agree with Havoc. I'm through with all the pickup jargon...

It's like people are turning getting girls into Starcraft/Street Fighter replays

its not like that. experience this shit in the field and you'll understand. its just that people are here breaking this shit down to a science after studying the female psyche for the past decade. if you dont come with a plan, you plan to fail. seriously, this pickup shit is'nt as artificial as it sounds once you look at the good ones doing it in real life. they make it seem almost natural, only because its something that needs to get into practice until it is hardwired into your brain.
you cant tell me that there is not a simgle wrong way of approaching women. because there are.
coming equipped with knowledge on the average female behavior and responses saves you alot of time trying to get a date as opposed to the redundant trial and error.

when you look at a successful pickup guy, you're witnessing his full understanding of it works. accidental or not.

there's a certain way of doing everything nowdays. like i said, you cant just attack life without even an ounce of knowledge of what you're up against. thats we study the works of what others have done so we can emulate thier approach. its alot less stressful than exploring this world empty handed without even a fucking map.

somebody help me out on this.

[MrBlank]

greese... lol at no home x12... more like 24 n shit..:arazz:

Shit test: I dont date black/white guys (or watever you are)

Reply: "Nice, it wouldnt have worked out anyway, you dont date real men, i dont date biggots *wink and casually say "Nice meeting you" then eject.

or

"Wow im flattered, I didn't ask you for a date, but if you wanna play make believe. i can pretend to be interested in you" *smile*

Shit Test: "Eww your breath smells"

[MrBlank]

I kind of agree with Havoc. I'm through with all the pickup jargon...

It's like people are turning getting girls into Starcraft/Street Fighter replays

ill break this one down for ya in 1 sec. This should be able to clarify any sort of doubts about what we are talking about.

*brb in 5 mins* loading projects up for my team.

[Dasiatic]

Hmm this is really a tricky one...
Me: "Listen... I still live with my mom... and I'm a virgin... so you dont have to worry about me doin you wrong...(chuckle)". But what you do need to worry about is how much are you charging me for this session???":rofl:

oh shit a new picture. nice. that you? i like the colors.

yo, MrBlank went hard on that one. lol.
I'd kill myself if I were she.

[Dasiatic]

ill break this one down for ya in 1 sec. This should be able to clarify any sort of doubts about what we are talking about.

*brb in 5 mins* loading projects up for my team.

no Blank, read my response to him first. then you add your 2 cents.

[acesmith5]

its not like that. experience this shit in the field and you'll understand. its just that people are here breaking this shit down to a science after studying the female psyche for the past decade. if you dont come with a plan, you plan to fail. seriously, this pickup shit is'nt as artificial as it sounds once you look at the good ones doing it in real life. they make it seem almost natural, only because its something that needs to get into practice until it is hardwired into your brain.
you cant tell me that there is not a simgle wrong way of approaching women. because there are.
coming equipped with knowledge on the average female behavior and responses saves you alot of time trying to get a date through trial and error.

when you looka t a successful pickup guy, you're witnessing his full understanding of it works. accidental or not.

somebody help me out on this.


Truth man.


It's like this. You can't say the wrong thing to the right person. If for whatever reason the stars and universe are in alignment and she's feeling you, then almost anyone can get her. On the flip side if everything is not in allignment and she is totally closed - then even a grand master might have issues. But if we're in the vast majority of the middle. The 80% of most of them. All you've got is your game -and you gotta now how to play.

Part knowing how to play is knowing who to target (like picking a good matchup in SF). After that, as humans we're hard wired with emotional and physical triggers. Yes, we are all different people - but there is a finite amount of triggers that can turn us on.

If you can bait someone to do a shoryuken so you can punish, you can bait someone to open up their mind then their body. It really is that easy.

[Darklightjg1]

I've been given this test a couple times because apparently I give off negative non-verbals or don't pick on IOI's when I first meet a girl (i.e I don't talk much). So after I actually do decide to start talking to her and we'll be in the middle of a good convo and she'll sound all relieved and say

Shit test: "You know at first/for a while I thought you hated me/didn't like me."

How would YOU respond/react to that statement?

Note: I failed this test HORRIBLY the first time (I was actually confused she even thought that) by denying it and then being nicer to her over the following weeks(to prevent her from thinking that again). I guess my behavior gave off the wrong signals over time (clingy maybe?) and she eventually started to flake on me. Long story short: fuck her for even bringing that up... her and her stupid "tests". Wastin' my fucking time like that. </bitterness>

I'm still taking this test for the second time which is why I need other perspectives on the matter.

[SF_PHOCUS]

its not like that. experience this shit in the field and you'll understand. its just that people are here breaking this shit down to a science after studying the female psyche for the past decade. if you dont come with a plan, you plan to fail. seriously, this pickup shit is'nt as artificial as it sounds once you look at the good ones doing it in real life. they make it seem almost natural, only because its something that needs to get into practice until it is hardwired into your brain.
you cant tell me that there is not a simgle wrong way of approaching women. because there are.
coming equipped with knowledge on the average female behavior and responses saves you alot of time trying to get a date through trial and error.

somebody help me out on this.

Example... you walk into a bar and you try and holla at a girl... your not used to talkin to girls in a bar.... you find a girl you want to talk to.... you walk up to her... you start talkin.... you end up buying her a drink.... she thanks you and walks away....

Explanation... Seeing as how you have never attempted to pickup a girl in a bar you dont know how to counter stuff like that... now after a while you constantly go to the bar and more and more you start hearin the same shit... "could u buy me a drink"... after a while you think to yourself hey theres a pattern here.... you make note of that... So now the next time you hear the line "so can you buy me a drink" you can counter wif something like "What Daz said before"

^^ Coming equipped with knowledge on the average female behavior and responses saves you alot of time trying to get a date through trial and error

[Dasiatic]

Truth man.


It's like this. You can't say the wrong thing to the right person. If for whatever reason the stars and universe are in alignment and she's feeling you, then almost anyone can get her. On the flip side if everything is not in allignment and she is totally closed - then even a grand master might have issues. But if we're in the vast majority of the middle. The 80% of most of them. All you've got is your game -and you gotta now how to play.

Part knowing how to play is knowing who to target (like picking a good matchup in SF). After that, as humans we're hard wired with emotional and physical triggers. Yes, we are all different people - but there is a finite amount of triggers that can turn us on.

If you can bait someone to do a shoryuken so you can punish, you can bait someone to open up their mind then their body. It really is that easy.

pure ownage.

[Dasiatic]

Example... you walk into a bar and you try and holla at a girl... your not used to talkin to girls in a bar.... you find a girl you want to talk to.... you walk up to her... you start talkin.... you end up buying her a drink.... she thanks you and walks away....

Explanation... Seeing as how you have never attempted to pickup a girl in a bar you dont know how to counter stuff like that... now after a while you constantly go to the bar and more and more you start hearin the same shit... "could u buy me a drink"... after a while you think to yourself hey theres a pattern here.... you make note of that... So now the next time you hear the line "so can you buy me a drink" you can counter wif something like "What Daz said before"

^^ Coming equipped with knowledge on the average female behavior and responses saves you alot of time trying to get a date through trial and error

yeah, yeah thats right.
im mad that you responded before i can even edit my post.

edit: ok, since everyone here reads too fucking fast. i guess you all have missed my previous points. what about what I said about the "map", and the other shit? oh boy.

[SF_PHOCUS]

yeah, yeah thats right.
im mad that you responded before i can even edit my post.

lol im at the comp thats why... im bout to go buss my bros ass in madden real quick:rolleyes:

[Dasiatic]

so yeah folks. here's my new post, god dammit.
see? different shit. you guys quote me way too fast. you never gave me a chance.
glad i got that off my chest.

its not like that. experience this shit in the field and you'll understand. its just that people are here breaking this shit down to a science after studying the female psyche for the past decade. if you dont come with a plan, you plan to fail. seriously, this pickup shit is'nt as artificial as it sounds once you look at the good ones doing it in real life. they make it seem almost natural, only because its something that needs to get into practice until it is hardwired into your brain.
you cant tell me that there is not a simgle wrong way of approaching women. because there are.
coming equipped with knowledge on the average female behavior and responses saves you alot of time trying to get a date as opposed to the redundant trial and error.

when you look at a successful pickup guy, you're witnessing his full understanding of it works. accidental or not.

there's a certain way of doing everything nowdays. like i said, you cant just attack life without even an ounce of knowledge of what you're up against. thats we study the works of what others have done so we can emulate thier approach. its alot less stressful than exploring this world empty handed without even a fucking map.

but all that really matters is everyone here school the youth, Havoc and SilentNess.
good show.

[acesmith5]

I've been given this test a couple times because apparently I give off negative non-verbals or don't pick on IOI's when I first meet a girl (i.e I don't talk much). So after I actually do decide to start talking to her and we'll be in the middle of a good convo and she'll sound all relieved and say

Shit test: "You know at first/for a while I thought you hated me/didn't like me."

How would YOU respond/react to that statement?

Well, my first reaction would be to ask her

"really? What gave you that impression?"

and whatever she tells you - don't do it ever again!! lol

or what I would probably do if it were me:

A: "So now that you know, is that a good thing or a bad thing?" *smile*

if she gave that *sigh of relief* before saying that, then she's going to answer "a good thing" then you know you're in and can close the deal.

[Dasiatic]

Well, my first reaction would be to ask her

"really? What gave you that impression?"

and whatever she tells you - don't do it ever again!! lol

or what I would probably do if it were me:

A: "So now that you know, is that a good thing or a bad thing?" *smile*

if she gave that *sigh of relief* before saying that, then she's going to answer "a good thing" then you know you're in and can close the deal.

please, I'd say something like "well, out of the many women ive met in my life. you're not too bad, i guess. you still have ways to go"
or anything like that.

[Havoc]

LOL

I know what you all are talking about.... I just think it's lame to devote so much time to something that is really just common sense.

All this lingo and technical terms for what should be just common social graces...

It's really not that serious.

[MrBlank]

Ok im back and ready to post.

Since Das and Phoc handled most of the purpose behind it. i guess ill go into more of the reason why the "Shit" test is pretty much something you will encounter.

In life there used to be the saying of "Survival of the fittest" back then it used to be about the strongest guy was the guy who got his and reproduced. Now anyone who was acknowledged by the strongest as an Ally or Friend. Also was brought into the *Survivor social circle* and women would also enjoy the strong males friends. Anyone seen as a threat to this social groups survival/reproduction, would be if i could put it into a simpler term *Annihilated*. Either the dominant male would do it, or he would order his allys to go and do it for him.

Now believe it or not shit is just about the same now adays. You talk to the wrong women, you can easily get your head bashed in by one or even a group. There are literally thousands upon thousands of social circles. if you failed to meet the social standards you would be as i put it before *annihilated*. because at that point the entire group would have observed you failed to passed so called targets tests. No she doesn't necessarily have to tell her friends about your failure, it would be expressed in how you handled yourself aka your not longer talking to her and gone. If you pass, she will actually talk about how fun you are to the group, and possibly raise your Value with the other women.

The shit test was for decades actually a natural "Defense" mechanism put into women of high social nature to weed out men who are not socially up to par or their standards. Now people naturally think god damn this woman is being a Bitch. Wrong. Never blame the women for you being shot down. it only means your Game wasnt strong enough to match her defenses. Women are social machines. You cannot even begin to fathom how much more social experience a woman has over most males. your "Average Female" per say can get as many as 8 pick up attempts a day at the age of 13. Shes been doing this shit for years. what makes you so special as "Average Joe number 1390382" who is a "Nice Guy, Great Job and a Gentleman". Shes heard it all. Therefore the "Shit Test" is like a pre-prescreening.

Once you break down this social defense. This is the point where you can start really getting to know the woman you are interested in and trust me during this course she will still be putting on the Shit tests. If you fail tests on a consistent basis i guarantee you will be perceived as a low value male. Sometimes you can just fail one test, and other times you can fail multiple times before she decides to "Drop" communication. usually this line appears "Oh shit, i forgot i gotta go, it was nice meeting you" She ejects.

Social dominance will put you in control. She will want to remain acquainted with those who are of social status. SHIT TESTS are not "Gender" specific either. Ever heard of the term "Cock Block". guys will try to socially put you down, and take control of the social situation. If you can pass a womans shit tests you should be able to pass another mans Cock block also. Subconsciously women will be more attracted to a male who can hold his own socially. Preferably i like to go with disarming the alpha males by giving them the idea they are still in control while i still run my game under their noses.

If you ever watched the show Blind Date or any Dating Show for that matter. You can actually see how badly some guys fail the shit tests and trust me there are shit tests in these shows. You can even watch how guys pass shit tests are the ones that get the special after show entrance. *yes i understand its only tv* but keep in mind. The shit tests women hand out are subconcious and she wont realize shes giving it to you because shes done it so many times its built into her system.

The whole point of the game we are playing: "Is to compare notes" or even to "Learn some new responses to so called tests"

if your taking it too serious, then seriously its not for you dont play the game. I personally find this to be a fun exercise that even the females can play.

[pherai]

Can you no homo looking at those Ness pics? I need a warning brah :confused:

Good discussion going on though.


I know what you all are talking about.... I just think it's lame to devote so much time to something that is really just common sense.

All this lingo and technical terms for what should be just common social graces...

It's really not that serious.

I don't think its fair to say this kind of stuff is common sense. You must roll with some real players because I know lots of guys who seem to do just about everything wrong with girls. Some people are hardwired for picking up women, and some aren't.

[ChunLi]

Would it be bad of me to tell the guy that at first I didn't like him and didn't think I'd find myself attracted to him but after getting to know him I realized what a good person he was?

Or he is just gonna focus on the fact that I didn't like him at first? Men aren't like women right? haha

[MrBlank]

Can you no homo looking at those Ness pics? I need a warning brah :confused:

Good discussion going on though.



I don't think its fair to say this kind of stuff is common sense. You must roll with some real players because I know lots of guys who seem to do just about everything wrong with girls. Some people are hardwired for picking up women, and some aren't.

Oh snap Rai is back. you in the crew too homie *Points at sig*

Would it be bad of me to tell the guy that at first I didn't like him and didn't think I'd find myself attracted to him but after getting to know him I realized what a good person he was?

Or he is just gonna focus on the fact that I didn't like him at first? Men aren't like women right? haha

To be honest it shouldnt matter what point you tell us you like us. Just as long as that is the standing real time fact.

if you told us "I used to like you in highschool" in our heads we would be like "Shit i coulda got at you but i guess not anymore".

The only real issue you would have chun is "Will he return the feelings". One can never predict that.

[Havoc]

snip

You're a loser.

If you have to practice (http://youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI) being a "high value male", it's because you're not one.

Work on you, and once you've got that figured out, getting girls is easy.

[pherai]

Ahah, very legit man! *Edits sig*

[MrBlank]

You're a loser.

If you have to practice (http://youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI) being a "high value male", it's because you're not one.

Work on you, and once you've got that figured out, getting girls is easy.

Lol brilliant. by calling me a loser, then providing me the same advice. (did i even say i needed help picking up women? i dont recall once in this thread)

"practice" is the same as "Working" on it too. You mean to say people dont need to fucking question their social ability? you've never went to some public area and watch a dude get shot down at a bar even though he was being himself? this getting girls is easy for only guys who know what they are doing. They either get a free pass "Handsome as fuck, Great Personality, and Money" or "They got some game"

Let me guess your whole theory is that, you cannot "Learn" how to pick up women? shut the fuck up you arrogant tard. Coming into a relationship thread and spit on people who are trying to add perspective into this thread and hopefully help those who seek a lil advice.

here ill try your route and give the "End All Advice"

"Ok just be yourself, act confident and getting girls is easy."

-End Thread :rofl:

Dont make me laugh playboy oh wait... im a loser i shouldn't even be talking in this thread only learning about what havok has to offer for he is a champion and i dare not challenge that. :rolleyes:

[Havoc]

Feelings hurt?

Sorry buddy.

This whole thread is retarded because there isn't anything practical in it. It's a bunch of niggas that couldn't get girls growing up, read a couple of books about it, and now wanna spew off their "knowledge". It's pathetic.

Again, getting girls should be a natural extension of how you relate to anyone because *gasp* getting girls isn't a game. It's not about how well you can bullshit. It's not about having tactics. If you need tactics, it's because you don't have the confidence needed to just get yourself across.

That's it.

Anything else that gets talked about in this thread is either misguided, or it's build-up to the one point which is, yes, just be confident in yourself, and everything else is easy.

This thread was fun back in the day when people had interesting stories... now it's just lame. Anyone can get pussy. Who need strats for that?

[SF_PHOCUS]

You're a loser.

If you have to practice (http://youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI) being a "high value male", it's because you're not one.

Work on you, and once you've got that figured out, getting girls is easy.

lol!!!!!! Havoc u need help wif the ladies???:rofl:

[Havoc]

lol!!!!!! Havoc u need help wif the ladies???:rofl:

Homie, don't get mad because I called out this lame-ass thread.

I've never needed "help wif the ladies".

Listen, if you wanna role-play with a bunch of other dudes that can't figure out how to relate to females on their own... fine.

Don't get mad at me for calling it what it is... lame nigga shit..

[pherai]

Again, getting girls should be a natural extension of how you relate to anyone because *gasp* getting girls isn't a game. It's not about how well you can bullshit. It's not about having tactics. If you need tactics, it's because you don't have the confidence needed to just get yourself across.

This whole thread is about teaching people how to decipher the bullshit, and be more confident or fake confidence. Just because it comes natural to you doesn't mean its natural for everyone else. In a perfect world, yes, picking up women should be something people are naturally apt at doing, but that's not reality. Chances are people who are seeking help in this thread have tried being themselves, and doing what comes naturally and haven't had any success. Are you saying they should stick with a failing gameplan?

[Havoc]

This whole thread is about teaching people how to decipher the bullshit, and be more confident or fake confidence.

OK... That's why I think this thread is lame.

It's not really about teaching confidence... it's much more about teaching people to fake confidence with bullshit tactics that they don't really understand.

If the people understood the purpose behind the tactics, they wouldn't need the advice.

That's why this thread is worthless, because it's just people giving out quick fixes that aren't even going to work.

Some of the stuff you guys come up with is seriously lame though. I can picture you lame fucks at the bar spitting this stupidness, and me creeping up from behind, soon as you buy that wine...

Chances are people who are seeking help in this thread have tried being themselves, and doing what comes naturally and haven't had any success. Are you saying they should stick with a failing gameplan?

LOL.... you're just giving them another failing gameplan.

I'm sure there was an episode of Family Matters/Fresh Prince/Full House/Boy Meets World/Punky Brewster... whatever... about how the lame fuck on the show got a makeover, tried to talk differently and tried to pull bitches with that act.

That shit didn't work in any of those episodes, and it doesn't work in real life.

[SF_PHOCUS]

Homie, don't get mad because I called out this lame-ass thread.

I've never needed "help wif the ladies".

Listen, if you wanna role-play with a bunch of other dudes that can't figure out how to relate to females on their own... fine.

Don't get mad at me for calling it what it is... lame nigga shit..

well im hear to provide some insite my nigga... not everyone knows how to holla at a girl... some people try and fail then they wonder why.... if u ever hollered at a girl then u know wat i mean.... its lame nigga shit to YOU!.... Just because u feel so doesnt mean everyone else does....

[Dasiatic]

Feelings hurt?

Sorry buddy.

This whole thread is retarded because there isn't anything practical in it. It's a bunch of niggas that couldn't get girls growing up, read a couple of books about it, and now wanna spew off their "knowledge". It's pathetic.

Again, getting girls should be a natural extension of how you relate to anyone because *gasp* getting girls isn't a game. It's not about how well you can bullshit. It's not about having tactics. If you need tactics, it's because you don't have the confidence needed to just get yourself across.

That's it.

Anything else that gets talked about in this thread is either misguided, or it's build-up to the one point which is, yes, just be confident in yourself, and everything else is easy.

This thread was fun back in the day when people had interesting stories... now it's just lame. Anyone can get pussy. Who need strats for that?


alright, alright, alright...lets not turn this thread into a "who really gets pussy and who doesnt" toddler fest. lets not turn the fucking clocks backwards and pretend we're all still 13 again. look, I for one, would like to assume everyone here gets pussy ok?
we are all not virgins, correct?
dont fuck this shit up guys. I respect everyone here. everyone.

Havoc, you say getting laid is easy cakes? fine. thats great. why not share some experiences and stories with us. teach us.
but lets not argue as if we all still dont know how to wipe our asses yet.

I came here because I want to fucking learn. not to argue like a bitch.

[SF_PHOCUS]

Some of the stuff you guys come up with is seriously lame though. I can picture you lame fucks at the bar spitting this stupidness, and me creeping up from behind, soon as you buy that wine...


lol please... u could never take a girl from me... half the girls i fuck wif u couldnt even approach... Im so serious about that one too..

EDIT: Daz ur right... lol im arguin wif a nigga that gets no buns... My bad My bad....

[Havoc]

Havoc, you say getting laid is easy cakes? fine. thats great. why not share some experiences, and stories with us. teach us.


I did that already. Ask Ness, he was around (BTW, Ness you still owe me a CvS2 MM at FR)...

Back in part one of the thread, I came in with stories (I still say my Trapped In The Closet story is better than 95% of anything posted in either of these threads...) all the time.

It was fun.

Now, niggas don't come with anything interesting, and it's a bunch of fake-ass PUA's (ugh... it hurts to even type that) trying to spit knowledge. Niggas sound like Papoose. Read one book, then try to act like you know what you're talking about. LOL.

Again... about teaching? There's no point.

Getting girls is about forming relationships.. meaning it's completely personal and unique to every different person. The way I would talk to a girl reflects my interests and my strong points. Me telling anyone else to do the same thing would be ridiculous.

The only thing that's important when developing relationships with anybody male or female, young or old, is to just be yourself, and be confident in yourself so that you come across as somebody that brings something to the table that only you can bring... yourself.

I mean, niggas in here telling niggas what to say, what to do, what cologne to wear, what haircut to get... chill.

Anybody can put on a bullshit, half-ass act. That's not hard.. and nobody really likes that shit anyway.

Whatever though. You guys can get back to doing what you're doing. Don't mind me.

[pherai]

Havoc: I'm gonna drop the discussion after this, but for guys out there that don't understand the purpose behind this advice, and aren't successful with women, is "being yourself" your only suggestion?

[MrBlank]

Feelings hurt?

Sorry buddy.

This whole thread is retarded because there isn't anything practical in it. It's a bunch of niggas that couldn't get girls growing up, read a couple of books about it, and now wanna spew off their "knowledge". It's pathetic.

Again, getting girls should be a natural extension of how you relate to anyone because *gasp* getting girls isn't a game. It's not about how well you can bullshit. It's not about having tactics. If you need tactics, it's because you don't have the confidence needed to just get yourself across.

That's it.

Anything else that gets talked about in this thread is either misguided, or it's build-up to the one point which is, yes, just be confident in yourself, and everything else is easy.

This thread was fun back in the day when people had interesting stories... now it's just lame. Anyone can get pussy. Who need strats for that?

Im hurt yo, you made me realize everything. :rolleyes:

i dont know why you come off as hateful in a help thread. oh thats right your in team hate. my bad...

Ill tell you something you should know by now, Haters only hate on success / accomplishments / jealousy. if you aren't comfortable with the fact things aren't going your way homie and feel the need is to hate then by all means. Hate on brotha. Lord knows things are going really good for me if i got a hater on my coattails.

Lets talk about them good old days when this thread was about other peoples success stories and ignore those who would asked for some advice in the department.

My game is only turned on when i need it to be turned on. this false confidence shit? ROFL how the hell can you bust this false confidence shit. that word itself is a fucking oxymoron. you cant fake confidence. If i show a person how to be more confident, and he truly acted more confident because of some advice and started to believe in himself. then thats not fake yo. Thats really someone being confident.

I don't have anything personal against you. i ain't even butt hurt but I've yet to see any "Positive" effects from your contributions. let alone your ability to not contradict yourself in the posts. :wgrin:

[Dasiatic]

I did that already. Ask Ness, he was around (BTW, Ness you still owe me a CvS2 MM at FR)...

Back in part one of the thread, I came in with stories (I still say my Trapped In The Closet story is better than 95% of anything posted in either of these threads...) all the time.

It was fun.

Now, niggas don't come with anything interesting, and it's a bunch of fake-ass PUA's (ugh... it hurts to even type that) trying to spit knowledge. Niggas sound like Papoose. Read one book, then try to act like you know what you're talking about. LOL.



ok, I remember saying the exact same thing while i was on this thread. a few dozen pages back I had said the same exact thing. I agree with you there.

but

Getting girls is about forming relationships.. meaning it's completely personal and unique to every different person. The way I would talk to a girl reflects my interests and my strong points. Me telling anyone else to do the same thing would be ridiculous.

yet this is the ideal way of doing it. would you believe that some guys dont know how to do what you just explained? ever met one who just does'nt get it? ever met one that CANT understand what you're saying now? what you said is a pretty vague, broad attack plan on picking up women, but what really matters is the execution.

now, I know you know that there are bad ways of approaching women, and "good" ways.
you cant tell me that you just walk up and say/do pretty much everything/anything you want when you first meet them. there are "rules", yes?

You say you get women easily. following you, there is a WIDE difference between you and some other guy who cant get women, right? he is obviously doing something wrong, while you, on the other hand, is doing something right, yes?
what do you say to this?
I'm going to leave you right here, and let sombody else catch you on this one.

in the meantime, give us a success story. tell us something that happened. i honestly want to know.

P.S. false confidence? what? Dasiatic does not need to worry. fake niggas get exposed eventually. this whole shit is'nt meant for one to wear a fake social mask.
Fake peple are ones who read the scripts, but still fail to see the bigger picture.
so they take on a false persona, and emulate what they see. end of story.

[SF_PHOCUS]

Fake peple are ones who read the scripts, but still fail to see the bigger picture.
so they take on a false persona, and emulate what they see. end of story.

pretty much it...:rolleyes:

[Havoc]

Havoc: I'm gonna drop the discussion after this, but for guys out there that don't understand the purpose behind this advice, and aren't successful with women, is "being yourself" your only suggestion?

Yes and no.

The only suggestion worth listening to is "be yourself". There's a prerequisite though. You have to first be confident in who you are. If you're not confident in yourself, then you won't exude confidence, and you bring nothing to the table. Once a person develops confidence in themselves, it really doesn't matter what they say or do.


Im hurt yo, you made me realize everything. :rolleyes:

i dont know why you come off as hateful in a help thread. oh thats right your in team hate. my bad...

Team Hate is stupid shit. Just fun... very little actual hate.

What's Pimp God, Inc? :rofl::rofl:

Lets talk about them good old days when this thread was about other peoples success stories and ignore those who would asked for some advice in the department.

Umm...... you can actually read earlier points in this thread and see for yourself what the vibe was in here. It was a lot better, then fake ass textbook pimps came in and everyone normal left.

My game is only turned on when i need it to be turned on. this false confidence shit? ROFL how the hell can you bust this false confidence shit. that word itself is a fucking oxymoron. you cant fake confidence. If i show a person how to be more confident, and he truly acted more confident because of some advice and started to believe in himself. then thats not fake yo. Thats really someone being confident.

Ummm... no. There's definitely such a thing as false confidence. I'd say most people have false confidence. It's based on how others view you, and superficialities that don't really mean much. You probably have this, judging by how much you buy into this PUA bullshit. Getting girls isn't something to really be proud of.. it's just life. Taking it this seriously suggests that getting girls to you does more for your ego than anything else.... That's false confidence in true form. You'll grow out of it eventually (hopefully not painfully).


yet this is the ideal way of doing it. would you believe that some guys dont know how to do what you just explained? ever met one who just does'nt get it? ever met one that CANT understand what you're saying now? what you said is a pretty vague, broad attack plan on picking up women, but what really matters is the execution.

Most things in life worth achieving are abstract and difficult. Finding some bullshit quick fix doesn't really work in the long run. "Execution" means very little if all you're doing is scratching the surface of the real purpose for doing anything. Again, anyone can fake it to get girls.... How many people have the genuine happiness, confidence and peace of mind that allows you to just approach anyone and any situation? What is that worth? Can you bullshit that?

And, again, if a person doesn't understand the reason for doing something that they're doing, they might as well not even do it, because it will not work.

now, I know you know that there are bad ways of approaching women, and "good" ways.
you cant tell me that you just walk up and say/do pretty much everything/anything you want when you first meet them. there are "rules", yes?

You say you get women easily. following you, there is a WIDE difference between you and some other guy who cant get women, right? he is obviously doing something wrong, while you, on the other hand, is doing something right, yes?
what do you say to this?
I'm going to leave you right here, and let sombody else catch you on this one.

Again, it's not about specific tactics. Those don't matter.

I could do one thing one night, then do the exact opposite the next, and have both of them work. It's all about having genuine, personal confidence... That's it.


P.S. false confidence? what? Dasiatic does not need to worry. fake niggas get exposed eventually. this whole shit is'nt meant for one to wear a fake social mask.
Fake peple are ones who read the scripts, but still fail to see the bigger picture.
so they take on a false persona, and emulate what they see. end of story.

Yeah... and that's all anyone can really get out of these kinds of discussions.

This thread is fun as long as people are just posting stupid stories. It's useful when people post actual emotional shit that leads to personal growth.

It's useless when people are just spewing off strats and tactics like this is GamePro.

[MrBlank]

Look if your suggesting im a text book pimp. Then seriously you know nothing about me but hey its your opinion you can keep that. In fact its all your opinion im not here to change "You" or your view on life. your the man your comfortable in your own skin thats fine. shit your confidence is great im glad you can get women cause its so "Easy". Shit i got my own stories, i've got all kinds of scandalous shit and i've been involved in all sorts of different relationships. Its ok though, because since im trying to just help folks out with some advice from my personal experience imma a text book pimp.

Ummm... no. There's definitely such a thing as false confidence. I'd say most people have false confidence. It's based on how others view you, and superficialities that don't really mean much. You probably have this, judging by how much you buy into this PUA bullshit. Getting girls isn't something to really be proud of.. it's just life.

:rofl:

"Self Confidence" is all about you. period. How can you even say most people have false confidence or let someone tell you how you feel about your self confidence. lets just keep judging everyone while we are at it? Man i was having a great time in this thread with the boys until you came.

A confident person wouldn't be asking for advice would they? Some people need to build that up. Anti-social people are some of the most hardest people to communicate with. So when someone asks for help, what you going to do "Just be confident, and be yourself" :rofl::rofl: Emo people wouldn't exist if shit like this was easy for them. Dont make this out to be some easy fix for "Everyone" cause you clearly think this is "Easy" for you. I personally think its easy for me too. you don't see me going around telling people they will fail if they tried anything different from another persons perspective.

you seem to be taking this more personal then anyone else here.

[fistoftheryustar]

How many of you guys are puas or really got into the community?


I hit up rsdnation frequently. TMM forum is huge and its filled with elitist scum. DYD / DDA needs a real forum not a crappy fan forum

[Havoc]

I'm not takng any of this seriously, Pimp God.

And I'm not asserting that any of what I'm saying is easy; i'm just saying that it's all that's worth actually doing. I already made that point pretty clearly. Like I said, it's hard, but no easier fix is even worth what little time it'll take to take that on.

[SF_PHOCUS]

you seem to be taking this more personal then anyone else here.


Im tellin you its the ones who get no play that have to most to say and no i wasnt tryna rhyme lol:rofl:

[Dasiatic]

alright, Havoc is'nt understanding what i just said. its useless now.
lets not argue guys. its not worth it. I respect Havoc and his views. but i dont consider myself some sort of "text book pimp", whetever that is.
We should all go out one day, and just hang out. We can all argue on who has it better or not then. text on a forum can only do so much right now.

I used to be like Havoc right now when i first came on here, if anyone can remember.
then i realized that methods are only methods. you have yours and well, we have ours. and they definatly work like hell. i almost feel guilty about it. real talk. but i use what works for me. and im sure everyone else here is the same.

bitch slapping and shitting on other people is only fun just as long nobody catches feelings.

PHOC, HollyWood Hav, and I are all from NYC. we can set this up, and just settle things in person.

[Havoc]

Im tellin you its the ones who get no play that have to most to say and no i wasnt tryna rhyme lol:rofl:

I'm sure you all get girls. It's not like it's hard...

What's the quality though? These little tactics work on birdbrain bitches all day. Good shit. Like somebody said they were having trouble getting those Claire Huxtable's.... I wonder why? They don't fall for that dumb shit.

Yeah, you can pull random hos off myspace (90% of girls on myspace are birds, and 99.9% of girls with public profiles are birds), and randoms off Flatbush Ave, but who cares?

You guys sound like Riley Freeman in here. "Bitches love Issey Miyaki, Granddad!"

:lol:

EDIT- I live in MD for now, but I'm up in NY every couple of weeks, so we can set something up. I probably won't be up there for a little while though, because of the holidays, but I should be there some time in January most likely.

If you guys wanna come to DC, I get into everywhere for free, I have a bar tab at Love, and DC is full of birds, so everyone should do alright.

[Dasiatic]

EDIT- I live in MD for now, but I'm up in NY every couple of weeks, so we can set something up. I probably won't be up there for a little while though, because of the holidays, but I should be there some time in January most likely.

If you guys wanna come to DC, I get into everywhere for free, I have a bar tab at Love, and DC is full of birds, so everyone should do alright.

ah, there we go. good to know that you pussies have finally cooled down.
im proud of all of you.

[Zachman]

I still think Havoc is too arrogant for his own good.

[SF_PHOCUS]

alright, Havoc is'nt understanding what i just said. its useless now.
lets not argue guys. its not worth it. I respect Havoc and his views. but i dont consider myself some sort of "text book pimp", whetever that is.
We should all go out one day, and just hang out. We can all argue on who has it better or not then. text on a forum can only do so much right now.

I used to be like Havoc right now when i first came on here, if anyone can remember.
then i realized that methods are only methods. you have yours and well, we have ours. and they definatly work like hell. i almost feel guilty about it. real talk. but i use what works for me. and im sure everyone else here is the same.

bitch slapping and shitting on other people is only fun just as long nobody catches feelings.

PHOC, HollyWood Hav, and I are all from NYC. we can set this up, and just settle things in person.

lol settle things in person... we know u got it daz lmao...
where in queens u from?

[Warpticon]

uh, thanks? i guess that was a compliment, right?
i suck at reading through plain text. My av? ok...

Crazy Story time from Dasiatic. I've told Sas this story too, but ill share this story with only you for now. So one time in Mahthatten, i was driving in my 2008 Jeep Compass with my niggas, off to Viacom on Broadway to gey my check. I casualy strolled into the past the sound recording studios, and grabbed my fucking paper check, turned around only to get stopped by none other than a fat, white, hairless Grimace. Serously, she was so fat and ugly, i could'nt een begin...oh my god. she was ugly.

so being the nice nigga that i am, i talked with her. Turns out that she's the voice actress behind some characters from MegaMan EXE, Hack Roots, Bratz, and this very anime i have on my avatar, Black Lagoon. I forogt her name, because i could NOT pronounce it.

I think her name is Maryke Hendrikse. damn she was ugly. but she was real humble and nice to talk to. what did we talk about? well, i remember one of our topics being about hiphop. she actually likes hiphop. wow,right?
anyway, she was coming back from a pending appointment on whether she was going to star in Black Lagoon's Second Barrage. I got curious, and picked up some DVDs of this anime.
The anime was crazy, i tell you. I finally got to listen to her voice on the DVDs, and boy she sounds different. she sounded like a demented bitch from hell. She's the red haired girl on my av. not sure if you can see it well, though.

Whoa, Revy's english voice is some fat hairy broad? That's wrong, man. Just wrong.


alright, alright, alright...lets not turn this thread into a "who really gets pussy and who doesnt" toddler fest. lets not turn the fucking clocks backwards and pretend we're all still 13 again. look, I for one, would like to assume everyone here gets pussy ok?
we are all not virgins, correct?

I'm fairly sure there are some virgins here. (actually, I"m positive.) However, there are nearly 7 billion people on earth. Pussy is not on short supply, and getting laid is no monumental achievement. Stupid and ugly people come from somewhere, and it ain't a test tube.

And I feel what Hav is saying, if not the abrasive way he says it. Explaining the process from your perspective is only going to produce a bunch of fake-ass yous running around. The PUA business is a misguided attempt at curing the symptoms as opposed to the ailment. If you can't talk to a girl on an equal level knowing that a) you're the shit, and b) if she disagrees, then fuck it, then you have issues with yourself that will prevent you from being successful in relationships the way you want to be, regardless of how much pussy you can fanangle or the relative attractiveness of the broads you pick up. You may pull some pretty girls. You may get some ass. You may even luck out and get one of the really impressive women and eventually screw it up because of the lingering self knowledge and confidence issues that you never resolved until after you had to start looking at yourself in a relationship context. But you will almost certainly never be the way you want to be.

I'm reluctant to talk about stuff like this from an authoritative standpoint because I don't have the standout resume of broads and sexual encounters. But I am nevertheless aware of a lot of the stuff you discuss in far greater detail than any of you, and man...some of the way y'all approach it is lame as hell. For example, if somebody comes in saying that he's into this girl but he doesn't know how to get it, most of y'all cats would jump right in with the strats and combos and shit, when the first thing you should be concerned with is figuring out what that person is looking for with the girl in the first place. Trolling for pussy, looking for a date, looking for a wife, or doing whatever would all elicit completely different approaches. All the "technique" in the world if you don't understand why you should do something. And if you understand yourself, you can figure out why you shouldn't take advice that might be given. If you don't have that core of understanding and self-appreciation, then all your instruction on technique is useless because it's like trying to describe a sandwich to somebody that doesn't know what bread or meat are.

[Warpticon]

Oh, and phocus, "hater" rants are lame as fuck. Seriously. Calling him a hater and making broad generalizations don't make what he said any more or less valid. That's some lame ass misdirection crybaby teenybopper bullshit that should be well beneath you.

[SF_PHOCUS]

Oh, and phocus, "hater" rants are lame as fuck. Seriously. Calling him a hater and making broad generalizations don't make what he said any more or less valid. That's some lame ass misdirection crybaby teenybopper bullshit that should be well beneath you.

show me where i called him a hater...

[Etcetera]

Anyone can get pussy. Who need strats for that?
I do. Please link up them combo videos.

[Warpticon]

show me where i called him a hater...

Actually, I confused you with Blank. My bad.

Also, Blank commented that if you're askig questions about girls, then you can't have confidence. As a generalization, that's not true at all. Hell, it takes a degree of confidence to realize that you lack in an area and take steps to correct it. The most fearful thing a person can do is to not try to do anything about it. A truly smart person knows his knowledge is not ubiquitous and strives to learn; truly confident people are the ones who understand their strengths and flaws and work to keep them as balanced as they can manage.

[SF_PHOCUS]

I honestly am not gettin the point u and havoc are trying to make.... im not being closed minded or anything... its just not clickin....

[Dasiatic]

cut

oh. THAT was what Havoc was trying to say this whole time? llol. I was alot more like him than i thought. yeah, seminars are just one big scam. I devoted an entire post to reasons why back a few pages. They just spew out little tidbits and PUA shit, without you learning the "whys" and "hows" of it. You may feel enlightened at first, but you find out that you cant possible try any of the shit unless you figure out who you are first.
yes, i know there are one who use fake identities to attract women. me personaly, i dont mind this much because those people can never keep up thier act for long.

My game is based on understanding the average female behavior and response. This is what i consider the building block for it all. It isn't bullshit. females responding to "leaders" and "wealth" did'nt just come out of nowhere. reading up on the stuff had helped me look into myself and learn which areas of my life needed improving. not just for women, but for life in general.
Lately, i have only been to one of those seminars just to check it out. If anyone here knows me, you know from that point on i never bought into any PUA shit again.
besides, i work just fine without the stuff. I mean, they had shit like: "take a girl and spin her around just for fun..." and i was like wtf?

seriously, oh my god. im going to devote a post on how seminars are dumb to me.

oh yeah, and im still no "text book pimp". cmon now. cut that bitch shit.

lol settle things in person... we know u got it daz lmao...
where in queens u from?

QueensBridge Housings on Long Island City. no street fighter 3 there, unfortunatly. just mrs pacman.

[Dasiatic]

I honestly am not gettin the point u and havoc are trying to make.... im not being closed minded or anything... its just not clickin....

well, have you been to a seminar? i mean..its hard to explain.
read what i just said. maybe it'll click, hopefully.
maybe its because you're natural and all of this does'nt apply to you.
but somehow i got it.


oh yeah, and Warpticon...ok, she was'nt THAT ugly. she was chubby, white, and from what i can remember, she wore heavy ass lipstick. i think she even has kids.
she's a god voice actress, regardless. i mean, after watching Black Lagoon, i was like "damn".
we never spoke much, i guess. she was just real nice. maybe it was because she had never a black person before, i dont know.
she never looked that bad, i was only being funny about it.

[SF_PHOCUS]

well, have you been to a seminar? i mean..its hard to explain.
read what i just said. maybe it'll click, hopefully.
maybe its because you're natural and all of this does'nt apply to you.
but somehow i got it.


oh yeah, and Warpticon...ok, she was'nt THAT ugly. she was chubby, white, and from what i can remember, she wore heavy ass lipstick. i think she even has kids.
she's a god voice actress, regardless. i mean, after watching Black Lagoon, i was like "damn".
we never spoke much, i guess. she was just real nice. maybe it was because she had never a black person before, i dont know.
she never looked that bad, i was only being funny about it.

No i didnt... I not a big fan of the PUA stuff myself... i found out wat PUA was a lil while ago... somewat recently... i actually did read some PUA material... Lance Mason from Pickup101, David D and Mystery.... honestly each of them somewat make sense...

[Warpticon]

well, have you been to a seminar? i mean..its hard to explain.
read what i just said. maybe it'll click, hopefully.
maybe its because you're natural and all of this does'nt apply to you.
but somehow i got it.


oh yeah, and Warpticon...ok, she was'nt THAT ugly. she was chubby, white, and from what i can remember, she wore heavy ass lipstick. i think she even has kids.
she's a god voice actress, regardless. i mean, after watching Black Lagoon, i was like "damn".
we never spoke much, i guess. she was just real nice. maybe it was because she had never a black person before, i dont know.

Heh, was I the one that recommended Black Lagoon to you? I want to say I did. That is my shit. And yeah, I understand she's good at her job and such, but when I think of real life revy, I see something closer to this. (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/warpticon/1147266944413.jpg?t=1198127919)

Anyway, my point is basically that you can trade strategies and stuff all day long, and you may have some luck, but you won't really have any self-sustaining success, nor the answer for when you get past the scripted point in your relationship. And all the time spent learning little tricks to pick up more broads could be spent on the self-development that would make those tricks largely irrelevant. I mean, yeah, there are good and bad things to say or do to get a woman's attention. But dudes are in here preaching macking on some Persona 3 shit.

[Dasiatic]

No i didnt... I not a big fan of the PUA stuff myself... i found out wat PUA was a lil while ago... somewat recently... i actually did read some PUA material... Lance Mason from Pickup101, David D and Mystery.... honestly each of them somewat make sense...

yeah, i was'nt big on it either. the only time i went to one was this free one 2 years back.
i dont even remember who's was it. it was'nt anyone huge, ill tell you that. funny how people blow thousands of dollars for that shit.


yeah Warp, i understand what you and Hollywood hav meant now. its just that Havoc's delivery came off differently and sounded like he was...well, i dont know. just..whatever. Havoc's my man though. he was one of the first to back me when i came back to SRK after Mummy B died.
like i said, i was in his place before, and even attacked people on here about it. nobody listened, and it was then i realized that it all never mattered much.

besides, like i said before, I respect Havoc's views. seriously, what the fuck else can i do on a forum? Getting mad and deciding to argue wont help when you've got two opposing opinions that both wont give up for the other.

anyway, i just thought that "knowing thyself first and foremost" was an obvious thing people must know before approaching any of this. like, learning to accept who you are as a person, and not wanting to trade in your identity for any bullshit. I thought all of this was already known here.
pretending to be someone else takes up waaay to much energy to do, and you never feel natural doing it. The point was to work your material so it flows well with who you are.
its dumb to sacrifice your individuality for pussy. thats how i see it.


and nah, you recommended me Death Note. never knew you like Black Lagoon though. cool.
oh yeah, and lol @ at the costume player. yeah, sometimes you envision people to look a certain way when you hear thier voices. Revy's voice actress is a complete contrast from the character.

[Javid]

I'm reluctant to talk about stuff like this from an authoritative standpoint because I don't have the standout resume of broads and sexual encounters. But I am nevertheless aware of a lot of the stuff you discuss in far greater detail than any of you, and man...some of the way y'all approach it is lame as hell. For example, if somebody comes in saying that he's into this girl but he doesn't know how to get it, most of y'all cats would jump right in with the strats and combos and shit, when the first thing you should be concerned with is figuring out what that person is looking for with the girl in the first place. Trolling for pussy, looking for a date, looking for a wife, or doing whatever would all elicit completely different approaches. All the "technique" in the world if you don't understand why you should do something. And if you understand yourself, you can figure out why you shouldn't take advice that might be given. If you don't have that core of understanding and self-appreciation, then all your instruction on technique is useless because it's like trying to describe a sandwich to somebody that doesn't know what bread or meat are.

:clap:

Bravo, now that is the kinda advice we need in this thread. Be comfortable with yourself first and know what you want. What happens in between is redundant.

[Dasiatic]

:clap:

Bravo, now that is the kinda advice we need in this thread. Be comfortable with yourself first and know what you want. What happens in between is redundant.

no but seriously, i thought this was obvious already. why do people still need to say it?
why would you praise one for reminding you to look both ways before you cross the street?
im giving you guys too much credit.

[pherai]

If you are just looking for tail, I don't see why you'd be caught up on not being yourself. It's just like being a kiss ass at work at work to get a raise. If you are looking for a long term relationship, then yes, you should definitely be yourself, but I wouldn't be picking up on chicks in clubs if I were looking for a long term relationship.

[DarkNecrid]

Edited Outz

[Dasiatic]

ok, so there i was in the freezing cold, right on jamaica avenue. brrrrrrrrrrrr. holy fuck was i cold as a motherfucker. cooooooold.
i was chilling BY MYSELF at Mcdonalds in the cold, cold weather. oh my lord.
so anyway, if anyone knows Jamaica ave, you'd know that niggas wild out there on the regular. I mean, cmon. the place was chalk filled with niggas. guess what kind shit happens there?
so anyway, there were'nt any hot girls on the ave at the time, but this ugly looking one caught my eye. YES YOU READ RIGHT, I SAID UGLY.
ok, maybe she was'nt that ugly. she had a body. she's a butterface, if you will.

i was horny from not hitting anything in the past weeks, probaly a good month and a half once i think about it now. jesus christ, poor me. what the fuck, right?
so me being the horny motherfucker that i was at the time, i ran into the Wendy's store she was in, right across the street from the Mcdonalds i was in.

i walked in to take another look at this actrocity with that sexy body to find that the bitch was rocking a tatoo on her ass. tramp? who cares.

so i walked in, and cut the line she was on mainly because i was badass. just kidding, it was because i was too horny to consider my conduct for other people, plus i wanted her indirect attention.
she never said anything. good. that gave me the chance to speak my piece about me cutting the line without her being loudmouthed and upset about it. I told her:

"sorry, got to run. you dont mind right? work has been real busy on a nigga, and you looked like you were just standing there looking pretty, expecting to be served."

what the fuck could she say?

you guessed it. nothing. she just laughed like a dumb ass.

I then continued to advertise myself in a regular, and formal conversation while insulting her. nothing too deep. i just said some shit on how...wait...i dont even remember. oh well.

we sat down on the nearest table. and what do you know? Dasiatic had brought his camera! jesus christ. yes, i got pics. only two though. batteries were killing me.
but i had managed to ask her to pose wth her french fries in a seductive matter.
how does it look? pretty bad, considering how ugly she was.

anyway, we chatted and shit about my job, how i go to clubs, and how i thought she looked sexy. which was a big lie, all she had was an ass and that was it. not to mention some cleavage and a tatoo.
after speaking to her for a while, i had realized my mistake....this is bitch was waaay to ugly for me to speak to. mad niggas in Wendy's were looking at me. but i never gave a fuck though. i never did. so i decided to take the bitch outisde to my car.

once i showed her my 2008 black Jeep Compass, it was a WRAP! it was as if she automatically thought i was mister rich big shot nigga. though i must admit, my Jeep Compass is smoking hot. I'll take a pic of it later.

after she crawls into my jeep with her tatooed ass jutting out, i was like "DAMN, this bitch is ugly but her ass is fine"
so we drove to the movies. by this time, she had completely forgotten about what i said earlier back in the restaurant about me "being in a rush". it was good. everyone here knows what i really wanted.

we went inside a theator to watch some dumb ass flick. who cares what we saw? all we did was make out.

now now. look, ive dated way more prettier girls before. in fact, i got stories for them too PLUS pics. so watch the fuck out.

PM me for pics, because i dont feel like hosting them through photobucket and shit like that. takes up my time.

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on a serious note regarding my story. dont think this was some case with an easy broad. she definatly was'nt. she sounded like one, regarding the way i described the story. but she's was'nt. from personal experience, i have met easy bitches before, and some "impossible" ones. in fact, I've met so many that I can pretty much tell where this one ranks in the "how attainable" list. she was definatly the type to zone you out and turn you down if you fail to spark enough interest and sexual chemistry right away. so i had to work fast. therefore she gets a casual 8/10 in that regard.

[MrBlank]

i dont know why you come off as hateful in a help thread. oh thats right your in team hate. my bad...

Ill tell you something you should know by now, Haters only hate on success / accomplishments / jealousy. if you aren't comfortable with the fact things aren't going your way homie and feel the need is to hate then by all means. Hate on brotha. Lord knows things are going really good for me if i got a hater on my coattails. - ME

For that post im questioning why he comes off as hateful in this thread. read through his recent posts. he just straight up insults folks. His sig says Team Hate hence the team hate reference. to keep it within context, im pretty much implying if that how its gonna be by all means he free to do so. that last part was just a statement not directed at anyone specific. It was more of a hey if someone is hating on me i must be doing something right kind of deal.

I got nothing but mad respect for ya warp, and your views are all good with me.

A confident person wouldn't be asking for advice would they? Some people need to build that up. Anti-social people are some of the most hardest people to communicate with. So when someone asks for help, what you going to do "Just be confident, and be yourself" Emo people wouldn't exist if shit like this was easy for them. Dont make this out to be some easy fix for "Everyone" cause you clearly think this is "Easy" for you. I personally think its easy for me too. you don't see me going around telling people they will fail if they tried anything different from another persons perspective.-ME

my poor taste in wording probably gave off that impression. I was trying to get off the idea that some people ask for advice, which in turn may calm certain fears they may have, of possibly find a solution to a certain issue which would make them confident in their decisions. which is why i stated some people need to build up confidence. but when i see people say its easy just be confident and be yourself. man that just as much throws me off the handle.

Its tough when you see one of your closest friends going through shit like this and other people say "just be confident". I used to be one of those folks too. I had to walk him through alot of things these past few years. He was antisocial, he almost committed suicide a few times. Never in my whole life would i have thought that sexual frustration would put him into the brink of self destruction. You can go ahead and call him a loser if thats whats running in your head. I wouldnt let my friend go down though.

People make this sexual shit to not be such a big deal. Sure for alot of us in here its truly not a big deal. Those who have absolutely no experience in the matter do make a big deal out of it. Im not here to brag about my sexual resume or tell you how easy it was for me to pick up girls growing up. I want to help people though. If anyone here from SRK asked me for help my door would be open for them. If they wanted to hang out and i showed them some stuff to work on, hey they are more then welcome to give me a call and if im free ill show em a night around my town.

Im not trying to argue with anyone here though and i like the folks in here. I just think theres alot of miscommunication going on in this thread and im sure if we all just cleared what was going on here and reset. we can all contribute our views while helping those who really need views on an issue.

Hey i apologize to folks if that feel ive been acting a fool and im not in anyway Forcing my views upon anyone. Much respect to the folks in here and with that ill cyall tommorow.

[Silentness!]

I did that already. Ask Ness, he was around (BTW, Ness you still owe me a CvS2 MM at FR)...



Haha I'm always thinking about that CvS2 money match.

*A lot of you guys in this thread don't know Havoc he was one of the OGs from the original Women thread. I agree with him 100% that the PUA jargon is just retarded bullshit. I refuse to use any of it anymore because it makes me feel so awkward.

I did use one of my canned openers to pick up a complete stranger's number, (some hot blonde chick), but it was still pretty moronic how it went down and I wish I could change how I went about it.
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PS: No way I'm going to be in GA for Final Round though cause I'm stuck over here in Korea. 3s/CvS2 competition is right up there with Japan amazingly...

Can't believe it I saw Xero15 at last year's Final Round who was also an OG women thread poster, but not Havoc. *shrugs*

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For that post im questioning why he comes off as hateful in this thread. read through his recent posts. he just straight up insults folks. His sig says Team Hate hence the team hate reference. to keep it within context, im pretty much implying if that how its gonna be by all means he free to do so. that last part was just a statement not directed at anyone specific. It was more of a hey if someone is hating on me i must be doing something right kind of deal.

I got nothing but mad respect for ya warp, and your views are all good with me.



my poor taste in wording probably gave off that impression. I was trying to get off the idea that some people ask for advice, which in turn may calm certain fears they may have, of possibly find a solution to a certain issue which would make them confident in their decisions. which is why i stated some people need to build up confidence. but when i see people say its easy just be confident and be yourself. man that just as much throws me off the handle.

Its tough when you see one of your closest friends going through shit like this and other people say "just be confident". I used to be one of those folks too. I had to walk him through alot of things these past few years. He was antisocial, he almost committed suicide a few times. Never in my whole life would i have thought that sexual frustration would put him into the brink of self destruction. You can go ahead and call him a loser if thats whats running in your head. I wouldnt let my friend go down though.

People make this sexual shit to not be such a big deal. Sure for alot of us in here its truly not a big deal. Those who have absolutely no experience in the matter do make a big deal out of it. Im not here to brag about my sexual resume or tell you how easy it was for me to pick up girls growing up. I want to help people though. If anyone here from SRK asked me for help my door would be open for them. If they wanted to hang out and i showed them some stuff to work on, hey they are more then welcome to give me a call and if im free ill show em a night around my town.

Im not trying to argue with anyone here though and i like the folks in here. I just think theres alot of miscommunication going on in this thread and im sure if we all just cleared what was going on here and reset. we can all contribute our views while helping those who really need views on an issue.

Hey i apologize to folks if that feel ive been acting a fool and im not in anyway Forcing my views upon anyone. Much respect to the folks in here and with that ill cyall tommorow.

Well, I mean, "just be confident" is an oversimplificiation of the issue, but it's at the core of things. It doesn't necessarily come naturally for everybody, but the thing is, most of the people it does come naturally for picked up on stuff over time and worked their way into it. I can tell you that the way I talk to women (or for that matter, people in general) changed a lot over the years. You can't simulate that experience, but you can encourage people to get some and make some suggestions on how to make that easier...

I do agree that getting one's feet wet in some way at all doesn't hurt in reducing the shock value. That's why I can't argue with the numbers game pua philosophy. I work in sales, and the first times I was suppoesd to try to approach people, I was nervous as hell, and now today I don't even think about it. And, yeah, I do think it's helpful to get a shy or inexperienced person talking to women with some regularity to reduce the intimidation factor. When you start keeping stats and stuff, thugh...that's when it's getting out of hand. :lol:

Stupid lightning waking me up at 4 AM.

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I think what Havoc is trying to say is you don't need all these tips and strategies to get a girl.

When he says be yourself, he's saying be confident in who you are. Don't be a dumb nigga and tell her about all your wonderful tournament experiences. You can talk briefly about it, but don't bore the fuck out of her. Make YOUR (not some fake person inside of you) life seem interesting and show confidence.

If you see this really hot chick don't think "Oh shit how should I bait her into combo #7" Just fucking go up to her like a human being and get them digits. I mean seriously one of the reasons really hot chicks blow guys off is because they idolize those bitches. You put her on a pedestal and of course she's going to kick you off when you try to climb up it. You need to let her know that she needs you like the money Gary Coleman got from his sold Dreamcast.
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