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Pinnochio
03-17-2007, 05:07 AM
Do you guys feel that music from the decade 2000 is just in many ways inferior to music from the 90s 80s?

Taichi
03-17-2007, 05:13 AM
YES

next question.

FighterX
03-17-2007, 05:15 AM
That was easy.

PsychoMistress
03-17-2007, 05:16 AM
The 90s was the golden era for a lot of genres. So much good music.

FighterX
03-17-2007, 05:24 AM
Aside from a few artists/tracks, the music of this decade is actually insulting. And then most of the music will be forgotten about within MONTHS. Now, 80's and 90's, I've got so many of those tracks stuck in my head, I wonder how I get them all up there.

In the late 90's/early 00's, the numbers of one-hit wonders skyrocketed.

pherai
03-17-2007, 05:59 AM
No. God I can't stand when people try to make this point. You just aren't looking hard enough for good music. There is more readily available music now then there ever was 10-20 years ago, so naturally there will be more good music. And there will always be catchy tunes.

umthrfkr
03-17-2007, 06:03 AM
80s 90s will be greater than this decade or millenium for that matter for all eternity. i mean just look at rap. its dead already. rock is filled with too many emo rock bands. country has always sucked. its gonna take a lot for this decade to be concidered good for music. which wont happen. only right said fred can save this decade. lmao.

Pinnochio
03-17-2007, 06:07 AM
No. God I can't stand when people try to make this point. You just aren't looking hard enough for good music. There is more readily available music now then there ever was 10-20 years ago, so naturally there will be more good music. And there will always be catchy tunes.


thats not true. Thats like saying allowing more people to become doctors will increase the quality of medical care. This is why we have the American Medical association to limit the number of people who become doctors and also make their salaries $$$.

pherai
03-17-2007, 06:25 AM
Um, no, its nothing like saying that, because that would imply lowering the standards that allow people to practice medicine. What allows more people to make music now than before is the exposure of the internet and increased amount of independent record labels. Do you think the filter of what major record labels consider marketable music creates better pop music? Because 20 years ago it was much more difficult to get your music exposed without the help of major music labels. If you really think the best music is music released on major labels, then I really don't know what to say to you.

Don't you think people who grew up in the 70's thought the new wave bullshit was inferior to the music they grew up on? People always say modern music just doesn't cut it compared to the music they grew up on. I can understand having a preference, but to make a judgement that modern music won't have the same lasting power as music 10 years ago is just narcissistic.

Pinnochio
03-17-2007, 06:36 AM
Um, no, its nothing like saying that, because that would imply lowering the standards that allow people to practice medicine. What allows more people to make music now than before is the exposure of the internet and increased amount of independent record labels. Do you think the filter of what major record labels consider marketable music creates better pop music? Because 20 years ago it was much more difficult to get your music exposed without the help of major music labels. If you really think the best music is music released on major labels, then I really don't know what to say to you.

Don't you think people who grew up in the 70's thought the new wave bullshit was inferior to the music they grew up on? People always say modern music just doesn't cut it compared to the music they grew up on. I can understand having a preference, but to make a judgement that modern music won't have the same lasting power as music 10 years ago is just narcissistic.

Sometimes certain decades of music are just better and memorable than others. Take videogame music for example. Videogame music in the 90s is simply much better than it is today.

DS
03-17-2007, 09:13 AM
Sometimes certain decades of music are just better and memorable than others. Take videogame music for example. Videogame music in the 90s is simply much better than it is today.


That's a lie and you know it. Ok.....half-true. Bigger budgets allow for better music.

Oh, and if you think music in this decade is sucking, then you're not looking hard enough. Quit looking at the mainstream and dive into the underground. You won't regret it.

Taito
03-17-2007, 09:19 AM
There's no denying that some genres took a serious dive in quality as a whole, but I think this decade is comparable to the 80s.. lots of one-shot singles cluttering up the gems that are remembered and celebrated today. I'm guessing that it was the same way in the 70s, especially with the Disco explosion.

VruS
03-17-2007, 09:22 AM
ggggg-uniittt

dipppsettt

Hoonyo
03-17-2007, 09:39 AM
i like all the revival shit.

pherai
03-17-2007, 06:13 PM
Sometimes certain decades of music are just better and memorable than others. Take videogame music for example. Videogame music in the 90s is simply much better than it is today.

Thats a terrible example. Video game music is not music written for the sake of music, but to add to the atmosphere of the game, so it can't represent the quality of music in general. Most video games today have more dialogue and sound affects, such that if you have something that was anything more than subtle ambiance it would just sound annoying.

I garuntee that in 2024 there will be compilation albums for this decade just like all the "TOTALLY 80's LOL" compilation albums out right now. Certain time periods are better for certain kinds of music, and I don't know what kind of music you like, but in general, there is at least as much good music being made now than ever before.

Black Chanler
03-17-2007, 06:53 PM
I was going to write this long paragraph giving a comparison between music now and then but fuck it.

I think to get music back to a time of glory people will have to not make the artists seem so superior to the average person, (kanye west is a short short ugly man, get over it). Then people would have to look at making music as a hobby and not a way to catch fame or fortune.

Bounce
03-17-2007, 08:19 PM
music hasnt been good since 98

its inferior because it is so self focused, repetitive, and artificial.......and anybody who sounds original is either ignored in favor a guaranteed hit or dismissed as up and coming......


FUCK YOU VIACOM, FUCK YOU

Mixah
03-17-2007, 08:27 PM
stone temple pilots, rage against the machine, and smashing pumpkins are what raised me... to listen to the killers? no thank you. 70s-98 for the win, and better yet, <1900 for the win.

TrunksSS3
03-17-2007, 08:28 PM
90's>80's>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2000's

Monte
03-17-2007, 08:28 PM
numetal lol.

Arcas V
03-17-2007, 08:41 PM
pherai speaks the truth. For people that actually care to find good music, there's a lot of it.
music hasnt been good since 98

its inferior because it is so self focused, repetitive, and artificial.......and anybody who sounds original is either ignored in favor a guaranteed hit or dismissed as up and coming......


FUCK YOU VIACOM, FUCK YOU

But wait, that just means you're ignoring those artists too :xeye: . Pop music your fault! :sweat:
Sometimes certain decades of music are just better and memorable than others. Take videogame music for example. Videogame music in the 90s is simply much better than it is today.

You just said older music is more memorable than new music... that doesen't make sense. Unless you're not implying that this decade is possibly inferior to any other.
80s 90s will be greater than this decade or millenium for that matter for all eternity. i mean just look at rap. its dead already. rock is filled with too many emo rock bands. country has always sucked. its gonna take a lot for this decade to be concidered good for music. which wont happen. only right said fred can save this decade. lmao.

Rap isn't dead. It just took two forms... the kind that is inspired by the hip hop culture, and the kind that is pop. People like confusing the two. And country can be pretty good...

Dasrik
03-17-2007, 09:45 PM
80s = Mary Jane Girls
90s = Spice Girls
2000s = Pussycat Dolls

Yeah, huge difference.

ST Vega
03-17-2007, 10:10 PM
Sad thing is...in the 20s, people are gonna be looking back to the early 00s saying that the music from this time period was so memorable and so much better.

:tup:

Zachman
03-17-2007, 10:12 PM
Sad thing is...in the 20s, people are gonna be looking back to the early 00s saying that the music from this time period was so memorable and so much better.

:tup:

Music can't get anymore worse than it is now.

Pinnochio
03-17-2007, 10:21 PM
not unless we have nu nu metal. Then we'll know metal can really have a low point

ST Vega
03-17-2007, 10:43 PM
lol. Music today isn't bad. Again, most of the things you think are crap now you'll appreciate later.

And either way, it's not that hard to find good music.

Mixah
03-17-2007, 10:45 PM
Music can't get anymore worse than it is now.

that's true, since both silence and white noise are substantially better.

80s = Mary Jane Girls
90s = Spice Girls
2000s = Pussycat Dolls

Yeah, huge difference.

I can see 2010 being the age of the dipshits. Have you seen 90% of today's girls, rather, HEARD 90% of today's girls? I had a girl in class ask the teacher what is bigger than the solar system, because apparently, the universe is a part of the planet, and a galaxy is on a necklace (JUST LIKE MEN IN BLACK, and yes... she used that example)... Keep in mind, that was a 300 level astronomy class.

lol. Music today isn't bad. Again, most of the things you think are crap now you'll appreciate later.

And either way, it's not that hard to find good music.


fuck that, fuck you, and fuck your dog, you fucking fuck. :)
and I'm fucking serious. :)

<3

You're right, but the problem is the fact that popular music (NO POP IS NOT A GENRE!) is getting progressively worse. More people are being exposed to stupid shit like the pussy cat dolls, and less to actual good music. In the 90's, people were exposed to Rage, STP, Smashing Pumpking, RHCP, Tupac, etc. Rap, even, is all G Unit bullshit, and no more good writing. It's horrible.

ST Vega
03-17-2007, 10:54 PM
Venture outside the real of popular music and call it a day.

<3

Arcas V
03-17-2007, 10:58 PM
I'm so tired of people complaining about pop. Real music fans will never like something bad (no I'm not saying ALL popular music is bad). If they like crap, then chances are... it's not for the art of music! :)

People "like" music for other reason- dance, memories associated with it, and the social aspect. We can't do anything to change that, just let it be.

caliagent#3
03-17-2007, 11:01 PM
Thats a terrible example. Video game music is not music written for the sake of music.

Tell that to Yuzo Koshiro.

ST Vega
03-17-2007, 11:08 PM
Tell that to Yuzo Koshiro.

Who's that?

Chachi
03-17-2007, 11:09 PM
good vibrations

you feelin me baby?

even after that... anything before 99 ftw.

AkumaTX
03-18-2007, 12:48 AM
Its called growing up people. Like it or not, it happens in life and as we get older, people tend to like the things of the past more. Its not that it sucks more or not, but you are just fond of a certain genre.

terracotta
03-18-2007, 01:19 AM
"pretty much whatever music was playing when you started getting laid, you're gonna love that music for the rest of your life."
- Chris Rock

i prefer 90s music but i think that's just me growing old.

Dem-Dem
03-18-2007, 01:44 AM
Until 2011 I will not speak on the music for the first decade of the 21 century.

DS
03-18-2007, 02:14 AM
Until 2011 I will not speak on the music for the first decade of the 21 century.


Why not just stop speaking in general? The 21st century can do without you.

Why are people acting like good music is hard to find? If you look and do your research you'll find it.

pherai
03-18-2007, 02:18 AM
In the 90's, people were exposed to Rage, STP, Smashing Pumpking, RHCP, Tupac, etc. Rap, even, is all G Unit bullshit, and no more good writing. It's horrible.

You kind of limit things if you only compare mainstream music. However I'll bet Linkin Park or Coldplay will have a comparable legacy to those bands. It's kind of hard to prove my point, because people like music that was trendy(I mean that in the most positive way possible) when they were growing up, but trends have changed, and because the music that is trendy now is different than what you liked, you don't like it. If you try to look at it as objectively though, there are bands/performers today that are writing quality popular music that isn't popular just because its some overproduced flavor of the month crap. I personally don't like any of the bands you listed, nor do I like Linkin Park or Coldplay, but I can respect what they are doing.

Tell that to Yuzo Koshiro.

Do you think he writes his music, and they games are created around it, or the other way around? Regardless, I can't deal with things on a case to case basis. We are talking trends here, not absolutes.

Mixah
03-18-2007, 09:07 AM
You kind of limit things if you only compare mainstream music. However I'll bet Linkin Park or Coldplay will have a comparable legacy to those bands. It's kind of hard to prove my point, because people like music that was trendy(I mean that in the most positive way possible) when they were growing up, but trends have changed, and because the music that is trendy now is different than what you liked, you don't like it. If you try to look at it as objectively though, there are bands/performers today that are writing quality popular music that isn't popular just because its some overproduced flavor of the month crap. I personally don't like any of the bands you listed, nor do I like Linkin Park or Coldplay, but I can respect what they are doing.



I'm just comparing it on a simple level, saying that the popular music during the 80's and 90's is better than what's popular now. Music in general, doesn't really change much, except stylistically, and certain musicians grow significantly better, but no matter what era, you look, and you'll find good music. Personally, I love alternative, hard rock, grunge, metal, rap before 94, underground rap, trance, and I absolutely love with all my heart, music of the 19th century, from Beethoven to Brahms. That's just me though.

Keep in mind, every bold statement I make on SRK is short, only because I'm too lazy to type. If we were having a verbal argument, I'd delve much deeper into anything that I say.

Arcas V
03-18-2007, 09:38 AM
Why do people always say "rap before xx and underground rap" like they are two different things. Back in the day, old school rap was underground. Hip Hop is underground.

But yeah, if we're comparing pop... then sure, this decade could suck..? I don't see the point though.

Mixah
03-18-2007, 10:12 AM
Why do people always say "rap before xx and underground rap" like they are two different things. Back in the day, old school rap was underground. Hip Hop is underground.

But yeah, if we're comparing pop... then sure, this decade could suck..? I don't see the point though.

I say that because tupac wasn't exactly underground, nor was NWA, and I like both... it's a bit different than the pharcyde

Pinnochio
03-18-2007, 01:01 PM
One thing I would like to point out is that with music from the 90s, there was none of this you had to look hard for *** music. Good music was available on the radio and there were many willing to stand by their tape recorders to put some hits on their casette tapes so they could sit to them later.

In 2000, this does not happen even though one might argue that because of the advent of mp3s of course people aren't willing to go that far.

I enjoyed the music that was played on the radio in the 90s, but in the 2000s i just cant take whats being played.

TheIlluminati
03-18-2007, 06:17 PM
I enjoyed the music that was played on the radio in the 90s, but in the 2000s i just cant take whats being played.

How old were you in the 90's, 1990-1999?

How old have you been in the 2000's-- 2000-2007?

SFFanatic
03-18-2007, 06:23 PM
What's this? A thread where SRK bitches about how stuff was "better in the ol' days" and "change is not good!"?

BOUNCING BOUDIN BALLS BATMAN!

epsilon_
03-18-2007, 06:29 PM
well it depends really.

there is a bigger undeground scene now, in addition to music being way easier to obtain thanks to our friend high speed internet.

but yeah, "popular" music isnt as good as it used to be.

B_IzM
03-18-2007, 06:33 PM
Now that I think about it.....

1991 alone released BloodSugarSexMagik (Chili Peppers), Nevermind (Nirvana), Use Your Illusion 1 and 2(GnR), and the Black Album (Metallica).

That is too beastly!!!!

Mixah
03-18-2007, 06:44 PM
Now that I think about it.....

1991 alone released BloodSugarSexMagik (Chili Peppers), Nevermind (Nirvana), Use Your Illusion 1 and 2(GnR), and the Black Album (Metallica).

That is too beastly!!!!

:tup: you for the win.