Mvc2 Statements (Top tiers Beliefs) vs (Low Tier Beliefs) Thread

[<---SiNN--->]

Ok there are like 3 to 4 threads with comments pouring about why players would or wouldn't play mvc2 more,like if there were no Top tiers.And, people complaining about top tiers or low tiers are so fun and takes more skill to learn.Also, that low tiers or top tiers are more fun to watch.I would make a poll, but that don't really prove nothing without a comment backing up there decision.

For my comment,Im not going to act like I'm on both sides,so for me personally I think Top Tiers is killing marvel slowing,then people might think.For most people in my position played marvel from the beggaining and know the beauty of the game for it was like back in 2000.Everyone on the roster of mvc2 was getting pick,every opponent people faced had a team they put together themselves,without having people on the internet to pick them out.Back then there was always something new from each individual,because the variety of teams where so randomly pick for a reason.

Then we skip through time where(Magneto,Storm,Cable,Sentinel,Ironman).Then seeing the same teams with back up assisit (Tron,Psylocke,Doom).Now from playing mvc2 competitively over the years,Top tiers was fun but sitting back and watching a whole site with the same 8 picked characters,Over the years that shit has to get boring after a while.I can understand people thats just getting into marvel top tiers are fun to watch and play,because have to sit throught the years with the same old thing.

And the decusion in one thread about the top players of mvc2 today,you wouldn't see them playing marvel today,if there was no top tiers.Well I have to strongly agree with that.Also that being said of how top players are good with lowtiers?Well,if you take that (Tron,Doom,Psylocke) out the mix that top player wouldn't be so dominet huh?And to add to that picking a low tier character,and hidding behind a top tier character or top assist,I wouldn't nessesaraly call a low tier at all.

Personally I think mvc2 today is not having fun and thinking on one's own,it's just all about winning.Thats just my opinon.

Discuss.

[supermin]

if no one else posts in this thread it will disappear by itself

[greeneggs&ham]

justin wong is the only top player that can play with lowtier.Done :looney: when mvc1 and xvssf was around you didnt see the same names you see on the marvel charts these days :rofl: Done Again.

[KinanO]

from the beggaining and know the beauty of the game for it was like back in 2000.Everyone on the roster of mvc2 was getting pick,every opponent people faced had a team they put together themselves,without having people on the internet to pick them out.Back then there was always something new from each individual,because the variety of teams where so randomly pick for a reason

That is what I miss teams like ryu,thanos,wolvere vs felicia,chunli,hulk.I miss those days....thats why I only look at japanese marvel matches they play every char. in the game...

[b1gazn]

thats why I only look at japanese marvel matches they play every char. in the game...

Not in just MvC2, but other games. The Japanese are known for their techinical play, not tier whoring.

[KinanO]

Not in just MvC2, but other games. The Japanese are known for their techinical play, not tier whoring.

yep...ummm thinking about it...it there were no top tiers or top assist......the japanese would take over marvel at evo,since most of amercia is stuck on tiers.

[Adam Warlock]

Personally I think mvc2 today is not having fun and thinking on one's own,it's just all about winning.Thats just my opinon.

Discuss.

Like EVERY tournament game. No discussion needed.

[b1gazn]

yep...ummm thinking about it...it there were no top tiers or top assist......the japanese would take over marvel at evo,since most of amercia is stuck on tiers.


you sound like a huge fanboy(DevilJin). No matter what, in real life or video games, there is a tiering system. This isnt communism where everything has to be equal.

[SyAdicate]

yesterday i had forced sex with a jar of peanutbutter.

[fatboy]

This isnt communism where everything has to be equal.

LOL...

Your right, otherwise it would be SF1. Ryu vs. Ken... or Ryu vs. Ken... or if you REALLY want to change it up.. Ryu vs. Ken

[evilmuffinmanX]

That is what I miss teams like ryu,thanos,wolvere vs felicia,chunli,hulk.I miss those days....thats why I only look at japanese marvel matches they play every char. in the game...

link?

yesterday i had forced sex with a jar of peanutbutter.

did you like it?:wasted:

[DevilJin 01]

you sound like a huge fanboy(DevilJin). No matter what, in real life or video games, there is a tiering system. This isnt communism where everything has to be equal.

Don't be like me guys. :lol:

In all honesty...the more I learn about Marvel the more I start to appreciate the game and the people that still play it. The whole "brokenness" behind the game is an old school mentality that doesn't apply to the way that the hardcore people play it today. You couldn't get me to play it (unless it involves some kind of money match where the tie breaker is Marvel LOL) but I appreciate the art of the game and especially the community. The community just knows how to get excited about the game and has a real passion for it. My game is 3S but our community just doesn't get hype like the Marvel people do. They bring a real sense of enjoyment to the game that they play.

The only reason why Japan isn't beating us in Marvel is because they just don't have the passion for the game that we do. Some Japanese like the game but they just don't relate to the Marvel characters and what not the way we do. They play it but statistics show they played other games more even less than a year after MVC2 came out. The same reason why they destroy us in 3S.

The game never picked up in the US and the people that did play it didn't have a concentrated enough scene to really get good at it. Back then everyone was on the A3/MVC2 bandwagon in the US and you were pretty much an outcast if you liked 3S. Just 4 or 5 years ago people in the US came up with every reason to not like 3S. Therefore no real scene for the game and no real reason to improve in it. The same reason Jojo's still carries lines in the arcade over in Japan and most people in the US have never heard of the game...let alone the anime.

Oh and I like my Japanese games. I play the Japanese version of 3S all the time. :razz:

[ShawnLoganownzu]

top tier is boring in the hands of an average player... watching top players use them is amazing, seeing what they can do with them..

low tier is fun cause its new to most people.. hell at NEC i remember D.HYO and me agreed to play our match using low tier in the regular tournament..\

and if you have never seen justins low/mid tier... wow..

until there comes a game with more hype/drama/money involved than marvel, it will never die

[KinanO]

link?:

sure..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS7jMf39sFA

psylocke played on point not for just assist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXuV2OGQLd8&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuGrYp2qXoE&mode=related&search=

its more fun watch this instead the same old storm ha! ha! ha!same old magneto infinite,reset,snapout.
sentinel bullshit all day,you should already know.
If im bullshiting you rather look at vids like that above or same bullshit msp vs msp,mss vs msp,santrax vs rowtron,the adverage player should get sick of the same shit i would think :wasted:

[Havoc]

You couldn't get me to play it (unless it involves some kind of money match where the tie breaker is Marvel LOL)

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Popeye's!!!

but...

if no one else posts in this thread it will disappear by itself

...yeah

[DevilJin 01]

My bad...more specifically...Popeyes match. :lol:

[<---SiNN--->]

LOL...

Your right, otherwise it would be SF1. Ryu vs. Ken... or Ryu vs. Ken... or if you REALLY want to change it up.. Ryu vs. Ken

I don't know tiers in SF1 or play it,but if you are talking about Ryu vs Ken,being for example Msp vs Mss,then I fully agree.

[Darkshine]

sure..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS7jMf39sFA

psylocke played on point not for just assist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXuV2OGQLd8&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuGrYp2qXoE&mode=related&search=

its more fun watch this instead the same old storm ha! ha! ha!same old magneto infinite,reset,snapout.
sentinel bullshit all day,you should already know.
If im bullshiting you rather look at vids like that above or same bullshit msp vs msp,mss vs msp,santrax vs rowtron,the adverage player should get sick of the same shit i would think :wasted:

The first video is made of epic and win. Only a truly manly video can change MvC2 into a Hokuto no Ken/GaoGaiGar knockoff. :P

[Jin Chonshu]

sure..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS7jMf39sFA

psylocke played on point not for just assist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXuV2OGQLd8&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuGrYp2qXoE&mode=related&search=

its more fun watch this instead the same old storm ha! ha! ha!same old magneto infinite,reset,snapout.
sentinel bullshit all day,you should already know.
If im bullshiting you rather look at vids like that above or same bullshit msp vs msp,mss vs msp,santrax vs rowtron,the adverage player should get sick of the same shit i would think :wasted:

Holy shit that first vid is awesome, Gaogaigar FTFW! Also, they tend to show Thanos a lot :rofl:

[caliagent#3]

yesterday i had forced sex with a jar of peanutbutter.

did you eat some babies afterwards?

[Mizuki]

Why isn't this in the MvC2 section, we have it for a reason...

[Mixup]

lol at this guy going crazy about marvel threads /\

go post where you are useful plz

those psylocke videos are hilarious, 10/10

[SyAdicate]

did you eat some babies afterwards?

no im on a diet.

[Ouroborus]

That is what I miss teams like ryu,thanos,wolvere vs felicia,chunli,hulk.I miss those days....thats why I only look at japanese marvel matches they play every char. in the game...

you sir couldnt be more wrong so please get the fuck off the japs nuts.

high tiers or low tiers, USA >> every other country in mvc2. we just know this game much better than anyone.

[Yoshi21]

sure..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS7jMf39sFA

psylocke played on point not for just assist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXuV2OGQLd8&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuGrYp2qXoE&mode=related&search=

its more fun watch this instead the same old storm ha! ha! ha!same old magneto infinite,reset,snapout.
sentinel bullshit all day,you should already know.
If im bullshiting you rather look at vids like that above or same bullshit msp vs msp,mss vs msp,santrax vs rowtron,the adverage player should get sick of the same shit i would think :wasted:
Those jpn ppl in the vid either didnt know what they were doing or REALLY didnt care about winning at all.... so many 'silly' stuff.... if later is so and they were just dickin around, its not good at all. I wanna see people's A games, not Z games...

[Mixup]

who the fuck neg repped me for laughing at somones pointless effort?!?!

> : []

you can't stop marvel players from beasting on this site.

btw, yeah the tactics are garbage in those vids, but the combos/editing are hilarious.

[Allosaurus]

if no one else posts in this thread it will disappear by itself

Seriously...

[Adam Warlock]

who the fuck neg repped me for laughing at somones pointless effort?!?!

> : []

you can't stop marvel players from beasting on this site.

btw, yeah the tactics are garbage in those vids, but the combos/editing are hilarious.

The Pyslocke instant over head 100% DHC hit TWICE. I was cracking up. Anyway, very few people on this site have more rep than I so I'll pos rep you to cancel that shit out.

[CrimsonDisaster]

The best Japanese Marvel players play top tier. The Japanese who came to the US to play this game play top tier. The closest thing to a not-top-tier point character on any of their tourney teams the last time they showed up was Iron Man. True story. Take that random BS about how Japan isn't about tiers to Gaia Online 'cuz they sure love making up random BS about Asian culture too.

[Mixup]

The Pyslocke instant over head 100% DHC hit TWICE. I was cracking up. Anyway, very few people on this site have more rep than I so I'll pos rep you to cancel that shit out.

fuckin counter hitting people lol

nice

that combo is the best ever, marrow super made me laugh too

[funkymusic]

I thought the point of all fighting games was to win.

[CrimsonDisaster]

I thought the point of all fighting games was to win.

I'm pretty sure the point of fighting in general is to win, but I guess if a guy pulled a knife on me and I had a knife as well, I'd be "unoriginal" if I used it. And if I had a gun and used it, man I'm an unskilled tier whore! :looney:

[MegamanDS]

I thought the point of all fighting games was to win.
no stupid. its to pick crappy characters and try to win but fail every time.

[ChaosNightWolf]

I used to believe that it didn't matter what characters you picked, but how you played them. I was even a low tier player myself. During that time alot of my friends that played top tier tried to explain to me that I was putting myself at a serious disadvantage by playing low tier and that top tier was the only way to really win. None the less I continued playing low tier because I refused to accept that statement.

Then I realized they were right........

Now I play top tier and I whore them. It's the best decision Iv ever made. :sweat:

[shoultzula]

as long as you understand matchups and take advantage of your low tiers strengths, you can win. Of course its going to be much harder but it doesn't mean its impossible. People like to bitch about tron being cheap but when you pair up bums with tron, they become able to compete.

spidey\tron
cammy\tron
morrigan\tron
omega\tron
marrow\tron
guile\tron
gambit\tron

all of those duo's can hold there own against top tiers when you play it right.

marvel isn't all mag\storm\sent\cable. There are good B characters that will rip those guys up like strider\IM\cammy. Give either of those 3 a hit in the hands of a veteran and be prepared to lose.

all of spidey's normals xup. Even the mp and mk. I don't think theres another in character in the game that can do that. Put him behind tron and now he's one kill with glitchy 50\50's and cross throughs that are just damn near impossible to block.

low tiers can step up and win its just the work involved and the strategy to pull it off isn't something that everyone can do.

[Mixup]

beast beast beast

let em know the next time we playin at a big tourney:rofl: :sweat:

megaman: where is ur overpowered jill boshit at foo

what happened to dc static

[MegamanDS]

jill raped too many at evo last year, it was pretty funny. dc static shows up once in a while at ffa

[Pablo_the_Mex]

I think we all understand that low tiers are a servere disadvantage, once you fully understand the flaws of your chosen low tier character you can proceed to getting around said flaws. It is all part of getting better.

However, if you insist on using low tier characters and constantly get raped, please do not blame your characters. You get raped because you suck. It is as simple as that.

[Jin Cena]

This type of thread always comes up and is always answered the exact same way. I started with low tiers first, until I got beasted on by Magz/Cable/Cammy. Now I just run random teams top and low. Not like I'm good or anything, but I really don't play consistently anymore nor do I have anybody to play against.

[StiltMan]

Preppy v See Jay anyone? :sweat:

[tech master]

the top tiers are more versatile and can do more. of course we're going to pick the top tiers. marvel is fun cuz it allows you to do so much. might as well play the game the way it can be played. i think people just complain because they dont have the urge to master the game as the serious people do and aren't capable of performing or competing with that type of experience and end up callin it "cheap" since they're not familiar with the tactics.

but anyway, after gaming it up with friends a lot of the time we get on some low tier matches right after.

sabretooth/tron/doom FTW

[50mOrEcEnTz]

i want to believe that low can beat high in high lvl competition! in all actuality i believe it can, vegita x is prime example of somebody not playing a high tier team YET doing very well in tournaments...BUT, with that said, if your trying to take the top 3 spot...meh, doubt its possible...but like i said, i wanna believe they can =)

[Mixup]

I've seen pat scrap his way to top three. I had to pick retard cheap teams to get an easy advantage, matrix and scrubclops were the answer.

It takes a really balanced team to have a constant advantage vs some of the weaker characters.

have faith homie, low tier is no joke

[True Grave]

There are some players at my local arcade who are definitly better than me, but they play low-tiers most of the time. When facing them with my own low-tier team, my win rate is so/so, I do 'ok'.

Every now and then I'll break out team scrub just to see how good I do then, and the tables are completely turned. I totally beast on them with little resistance.

Then again who am I kidding? It all depends on how skilled the players are, not what characters they pick. Because I'm able to beast on players who are quite a bit more skilled than I, that is in no way contradictory to that statement.

Oh look! ::knells down:: I found a quarter, sweet!