list of all invincible AAA

[sealhunta]

does anyone already have a list of invincible anti-air assits or just happen to know. the only ones i know about are

psy
cyck
ken
cammy
akuma?
jin?

[shoultzula]

maybes:

ryu
akuma
dan
metal wolverine
sakura
spiderman?

charile - even though its more of an air projecile, I think its invincible still. Too bad he don't hit crouchers.:sad:

chun li - dont know if shes invincbile or if her AA just has great priority like morrigan\sonson.


sure shot:

guile
cable
captain america

[sealhunta]

cable's AAA is invincible? this whole time i never knew that. I used to think all the instant Assists were invincible and the slower ones weren't

[Triplejjj]

I play the Ps2 version so I can't be 100% percent sure about the Cable AAA assist on DC/Arcade, but on Ps2 it loses cleanly to Cyck AAA 9 times out of ten. So I doubt it has any invincibilty, or it would at least trade, it does have decent priority against other stuff though.

[tech master]

what about colossus? my friend is a hardcore collossus player and i swear that tackle is invincible for the first couple frames or somethin

[shoultzula]

i'm more than certain cable has invicibility on his AA.

about collosus AA, I think it has a start up time but after that, his priority is there. I'm sure i've tested this before because I used to play ruby\marrow\collosus. Can't really remember if I tested it with his dash type or AA type.

just because cyke AA beats out cable AA doens't mean cable AA isn't invincible. I can get morrigan to beat cyke AA consistently and she has no invicibility. Its all about the timing between the 2 AA's.

I'm sure that the invincibility on the AA's are very small. Usually @ the startup of the move and only lasts for about 3-6 frames. Just my educated guess.

[sealhunta]

oh yeah i forgot about the fact that some characters are invincible during the whole move before the taunt while others only have invincibility for the first few frames.

[Triplejjj]

Doesn't the MVC2 Guidebook have statistics like, invincibility frames on moves similar to the CVS2 book, or is that info floating around somewhere out there on the web?

[KillerKai]

There are those with invincibility frames and those with just top notch priority on startup. The ones with invincibility frames are as follows:

Ryu
Ken
Akuma
Jin
Capcom
Cyke
Cammy
Dan

Psy, Cable, Guile, Charlie, and pretty much everything else is just insane priority

[sealhunta]

There are those with invincibility frames and those with just top notch priority on startup. The ones with invincibility frames are as follows:

Ryu
Ken
Akuma
Jin
Capcom
Cyke
Cammy
Dan

Psy, Cable, Guile, Charlie, and pretty much everything else is just insane priority

Yeah rite, i remember being proton cannoned by ironman but i called a psylock assist so i was blocking and psylocke went through the proton cannon and hit ironman. I could be wrong maybe it was cycklops lol

but thanks for the info i needed to know that im like an obssessive compulsive disorderee. i didnt want to start practicing comboes until i knew it was invincible

Also i'm assuming since ur wording was so precise that u know which characters anti air assist is completely invincible for all frames up to their departure taunt?

[MagnetoManiac]

keep in mind a fast starup isnt invincibility. cables is not invincible im sure, just has instant startup.

[Magnetro]

the only ones that come to mind that are 100% invincible are cammy and ken aaa

[sealhunta]

i was playing against the computer and it called sakura assist and it went right though my storm's typhoon :O? buts it like a ground assist so maybe u knew that already and were just talking about AAA

[tech master]

well, it is an AAA thread lol

[shoultzula]

hmm i'm confused now.

so psy\cable aren't invincible AA's? why do they beat doom then as doom is already out?

[box]

Cammy is invincible to the peak of her jump or until she hits someone or an object.

Ken is invincible to the peak of his jump.

Psylocke is invincible to the peak of her jump.

Cyclops and Cable are invincible but only for a short time at the beginning of their attack.

[ducvader]

Ken and Cammy are the only ones that come into my mind. Any assist that will cleanly cut through AHVB is invincible. Everyone else gets nerfed including cyc, psy, commando etc..... There are probably others but they're not important enough to list :-)

[sealhunta]

Ken and Cammy are the only ones that come into my mind. Any assist that will cleanly cut through AHVB is invincible. Everyone else gets nerfed including cyc, psy, commando etc..... There are probably others but they're not important enough to list :-)

thanks. It is always fun when u call assist just before someone does their hyper move and ur blocking and they think they trapped u or something and then they get uppercutted lol

hmm i'm confused now.

so psy\cable aren't invincible AA's? why do they beat doom then as doom is already out?

i dont think doom is invincible. during the beggining the rocks dont surround his upper body anything can knock him out of it.

psylockes psyblade & cables psymitar hits high.


Another thing that always puzzled me cuz i dont know how it works but say i call an assist and the assist gets hit they end their move and just leave, but if i get hit they end their move and do their taunt and then leave.

does anyone know exactly what happens

[MagnetoManiac]

Another thing that always puzzled me cuz i dont know how it works but say i call an assist and the assist gets hit they end their move and just leave, but if i get hit they end their move and do their taunt and then leave.

does anyone know exactly what happens

yea if the assist is left untouched the whole time its out they will do their taunt and leave.


i think cable beats doom cuz of his instant startup. if doom is out, and cable comes in, they trade. if cable comes in the same time/before doom will ride his whole spear. another thing is it will take a while for doom to come back down and for you to use him again.

as for psy, she DOES have in invincibility. but its very brief. if u noticed she can go thru commando sometimes. shes invincible the part where she jumps, when she lets her arms out shes vulnerable. commando just owns her cuz she takes damage badly and its easy to call commando right after psy is out. same with tron against psy.

[50mOrEcEnTz]

hmm i'm confused now.

so psy\cable aren't invincible AA's? why do they beat doom then as doom is already out? the only way cable can beat doom when he is out, is when someone [mixup :rofl: ] calls cable INBETWEEN the two wave of rocks doom has. know wut i mean? doom puts you in blockstun twice if i remember right? and its like two waves of rocks you block? so if you dont fill the gap with normals an assist can be called, and i think cable can cut through inbetween the rocks if called right.

any other time cable gets called out while doom is already out, the trading action should happen

all of this crap is why it shouldn't happen a lot, normally since i hear ur a strider doom player...them foo's shudn't be able to call that assist in the middle of rocks =) make them foos counter =)

[Triplejjj]

This is slightly off topic, but in response to sealhunta's query about the sakura assist, as long as a physical attack or standard projectile comes into contact with the shield on her uppercut she will run through it. I swear I once saw her run through a viper beam once though.

[Deathfist]

Ken and Cammy are the only ones that come into my mind. Any assist that will cleanly cut through AHVB is invincible. Everyone else gets nerfed including cyc, psy, commando etc..... There are probably others but they're not important enough to list :-)

Cyclops only gets nerfed because people mistime it, or call it from too far away. Then when the invulnerability wears off, they die. Same for Psylocke.

Capcom you're right about [although he has a nasty habit of hitting directly below the one using the AHVB where it will whiff...] Ken you're right about, and Cammy you're right about.

[sealhunta]

Cyclops only gets nerfed because people mistime it, or call it from too far away. Then when the invulnerability wears off, they die. Same for Psylocke.

Capcom you're right about [although he has a nasty habit of hitting directly below the one using the AHVB where it will whiff...] Ken you're right about, and Cammy you're right about.

is cyclops invincibility only on the way up of the dragon punch and on the way down hes not invincibile. like he goes up and then down and up again.

or is he completely invincible for just the first dragonpunch and on the way down too.


and for capcom. is he invincibile until just before he unleashes the corridor or is he invincibile until after he unleashes it.

[De4dEyE]

Cap isn't invincible at all IIRC. Or if he is, then it's just like a split second before his corridor is thrown out

can't count how many times he's been stuffed by a c.short or some other shit before he assists

[Deathfist]

is cyclops invincibility only on the way up of the dragon punch and on the way down hes not invincibile.
This part of it is accurate. The rest of it isn't. The second he reaches the peak, he gets destroyed. Possibly a VERY short time before that.

[Mixah]

Cammy + ken = correct.

[metrock1]

Only other AAA that comes to mind besides cammy/ken would be Jin. Im not sure but jin maybe vulnerable on his lower portion on start.
Cable and cyke are not invincable since they can be snuffed on startup.
Who ever said about mistiming there AAA, that isnt isnt invincable thats just playing smart :confused:.

[J360]

cammy, dan, ken, cyke, the rest are just high priority and commando can get beat out of his aaa.

[Mixah]

dan's is random

and cyclops, i have seen get knocked out of it by ahvb, but it's rare... most of his startup is invincible, i do believe.

[sealhunta]

dan's is random

and cyclops, i have seen get knocked out of it by ahvb, but it's rare... most of his startup is invincible, i do believe.

If Sent does a HSF or storm does a hailstorm and just before u call cyclops assist, will cyclops knock them out of their attack. or would they get stuffed?

[BeaTs*]

he knocks them out from my experience.

[Logos]

Depends on how close you are. I've knocked Sentinels out of HSF with Cyke many time, but you have to be close enough for him to actually hit them when he comes out.

Dunno about Storm, but I imagine it's the same for her.

[Mixah]

knock them out. sometimes they trade hits though.

[sealhunta]

Okay, so how did psylock beat cyclops, is there like one frame right before he hits that leaves him vulnerable, or was he in mid attack when psylocke hit, i dont know i tried slowing it down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85tBEkPB2-o

[Tigerboi]

I've knocked people out of THCs with Psy. She definatly has some invinciblity.