Do casual gamers perpetuate the "console wars"?

[F.A.C.E.]

The only time I really see a discussion about "which system is winning" is when ill-informed wanna-be mainstream gamers put their personal bias into a theme that can be delved into from many different angles.

Everyone seems to pull these "facts" about their personal system they hold true and dear to their hearts into their argument as if it will support a FOR THE MOMENT objective question.



It's quite annoying to hear it take place, and being what I would like to call myself a more informed, serious gamer it has become almost futile to interject myself into these discussions because my logic falls on deaf ears. Can anyone agree? I used to jump into these arguments, and now I pay them no mind. I even act as if I'm not interested when others ask me what I think of the current state of gaming. Gaming argurments are so childish and integrated into pop culture that i'm disgusted. And dont get me started on those infamous gamestop employees.:rolleyes:



I hold true to "if you're a gamer you like games". Money aside, if you could have all 3 why would you just pick your "favorite"?, and to be pigheaded enough to have a favorite when there are or will eventually be AMAZING exclusive titles across all three platforms.


I just had to stop lurking and pose the question. I witnessed a grueling battle between moron 1 and moron 2 trying attempting to have it out.

[tajiri]

fuck this thread.
it doesn't matter "which is system is winning"
that's a pretentious notion.
fuck it.
a good game is a good game.
consoles are made in part by raw hardware specs, the rest is left up to software/game support.

oh and IN BEFORE LOCK.

[F.A.C.E.]

fuck this thread.
it doesn't matter "which is system is winning"
that's a pretentious notion.
fuck it.
a good game is a good game.
consoles are made in part by raw hardware specs, the rest is left up to software/game support.

oh and IN BEFORE LOCK.


You misinterpreted the entire objective.

I didnt ask about the console wars.


I was asking was it a big fabricated argument that fascinates a culture so dependant on controversy. But thanks for derailing it.


*goes back to lurking*

[tajiri]

You misinterpreted the entire objective.

I didnt ask about the console wars.


I was asking was it a big fabricated argument that fascinates a culture so defendant on controversy. But thanks for derailing it.


*goes back to lurking*

my bad, maybe you should post this on either:

http://www.gaiaonline.com

or

http://www.gamefaqs.com

[F.A.C.E.]

Casual gamers are more likely to play whatever is most popular or suits their needs and interests.

A game company's fanbase needs to know if their beloved system will stay afloat against its competition, oblivious to what's great about the other system that is making it so competitive in the first place. They worry about what other people are playing and whine that healthy competition is evil or what's wrong with gaming, and etc.

I completely agree.


But at the same time. . we all know the PS3 sales were based on the NAME and not the software. Why? because almost all the games were cross platform or just down right vanilla.


So I was trying to tell the guy at least wait for some hard-hitting, exclusive, ORIGINAL shit to be birth and then conduct a legit, classy opinion. He just fell back on the 1Q sales. I was over it so i excused myself.


I'm trying to convince myself that true gamers arent in this low stature.

[tajiri]

I'm trying to convince myself that true gamers arent in this low stature.

why the fuck does it matter?

honestly, if it's something bob likes and bill doesn't or vice versa, it is what it is.
they're just fucking video games.

this isn't the presedential elections, this isn't the war in iraq.

so why contribute/perpetuate the hype of "a big fabricated argument that fascinates a culture so dependant on controversy."

it boils down to preference, you can't fault anybody for what they prefer.
that in itself, as you so adeptly put it, is "low in stature"

[F.A.C.E.]

lol its whatever dude!! just a question on a fucking forum. dont like, dont reply!


i dont even know you and youre bumping my nuts hella hard.

[tajiri]

lol its whatever dude!! just a question on a fucking forum. dont like, dont reply!


i dont even know you and youre bumping my nuts hella hard.

i'm not trying to jock you at all, but for what it's worth, there are several threads like this in the GD already, read other user's posts, and base your opinion from that.

use your deductive reasoning, or better yet, post in a pre-existing thread.

[DS]

Casual fans don't perpetuate console wars. It's the hardcore userbase that does. Case in point: The PS3 thread. I don't think much can be said from there. Either way, this thread sucks.

[FMJaguar]

I think your confusing a fanboy opinion with the actual topic. While it's true that there will be fanboys on any issue, it doesn't nessecarily mean the topic itself is 'fake'.

Most markets are going to have companies competing against each other. Each company takes a different approach, and they compete for the consumers attention. By seeing what sells and what doesn't, they can partially gauge what consumers want and adapt in the future.

Any argument can become silly on the internet, and i think that's all your seeing here.

[Grits'N'Gravy]

Damn man... you should've made an introduction thread instead.

[Tat guy]

http://www.gaiaonline.com


WTF is up with that dude on the front page.


(Way to go on your first topic!!!!!!!)

[MrBlank]

Hardcore = Flame Wars
Casual = Console Wars
Non Gamers = World Wars

[pherai]

*goes back to lurking*

Good call

[Zaelar]

For the most part, the only thing that matters is price and game selection. Hardware specs can limit the game selection, but when comparing two same generation systems it generally doesn't. By the time the specs would matter, the next generation is already out.

When comparing, you'd either go by how much money a system made, which doesn't exactly matter when deciding which one to buy, or whichever system has the most games you want, which differs from person to person. Price may limit your decision, but it doesn't change which one you'd want more.

While that doesn't really answer the question at hand, I think the simplest reason is fanboys and/or morons on the internet. Wether they are casual or hardcore doesn't matter, but I'd guess there would be more hardcore, as casuals wouldn't care as much, but thats just guessing.

[Juggy]

If you even care about arguing over which console is better or anything at ALL remotely like it... you need to get your priorities straight. I buy a system based on what it can do and what games are out there, that's it. Everyone who is ever going to buy a console needs to do that, and just that. Pick the one (or ones) that you want, buy them, play them. Trying to convince others to play them or anything beyond just fucking playing the game, you're a huge fucking loser (being a nerd is fine; you can be a nerd and not be a loser).

Things to argue about:

Which has better system specs? This is a solid fact and provable.

Which system has better features? This is opinion, depending on what you want more out of your system.

Which system has the better library? Opinion based on what you like to play.

That's it. That's all there is to it. Play games, enjoy them, and quite being a fucking piece of shit nerd trying to go on a powertrip on the internet because no one pays attention to you when you're not behind your monitor.

[Red-Impact]

I stopepd caring after PSX won.

At least PSX won in my book:confused:

[jae hoon]

Give the guy a break he is just having to try to have a decent discussion.

The mainstream actually does perpetuate it more then anyone else. While the hardcore will bitch about that system or this system, they will usually get it. I have known many casual players that refuse to play anything just because it doesnt say Sony.

[Debaser]

Thanks for telling me things I already know.

[MuD]

You get into this debate, and you get into the "casual versus serious gamer" debate. And that's just as stupid.

It's all about money. Wether you consider yourself "hardcore" (the gayest term EVER) gamer, or a casual gamer, you spend MONEY. And MONEY says who wins.

Futhermore, a casual gamer doesnt care who wins the console war per se, but rather, which they can have the most fun on, probably without having to buy all the systems. The "Hardcore" gamer will get anything/everything because of the potential for greatness, which, to me, is silly. Why get all 3 systems when 1, maybe 2 will get you 90% of the generation's goodness? Seems like a lot to spend for 10%.

Also, "Hardcore" gamers feel much more stongly about their opinions than casuals. They defend harder, resent more, and generally have a holier-than-thou attitude in regards to games, because their experience is somehow supposed to be greater than someone who followed trends and just played the great games. Playing shitty games doesnt make you a better gamer, it makes you silly for playing shitty games. But i guess someone has to play in order to say they are shitty, but when others follow to try to find the merrits of those shitty games...?

I guess i could consider myself a "hardcore" gamer, just because of the nearly 25 years ive put into gaming. But my attitude isnt that of a balls to the wall, believe it or die, any and all are acceptable to play gamer. I play certain genres, certain titles on certain systems. I listen to what's hot or not, and i make my decisions on those opinions, factored into what i like and what seems hot. If i were hardcore, id play anything, just to see if it's worth my time, and then have something to criticize and use in arguments (example "I played *x game* and it's so shitty compared to so and so... if you were hardcore, you'd know that already")

Casuals do far less to perpetuate the wars than the companies that make the systems do. Casuals play games, the companies are the ones that sign exclusivity clauses, and differentiate specs to seem superior, and market their systems up, and market down other company's systems... they create the conflict of availability and (supposed) quality differences to get more MONEY.

Blame anyone, blame Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo.

[RoninChaos]

Anybody got dat Madden?

[Irennicus]

Hardcore = Flame Wars
Casual = Console Wars
Non Gamers = World Wars

Non Gamers = American Idol fans.

[RoninChaos]

I KNOW Irennicus has got dat Madden.

[Irennicus]

I KNOW Irennicus has got dat Madden.

Naw man. I've got weed though?

[TS]

You got dat dolphin?

[orochizoolander]

you can't fault anybody for what they prefer. that in itself, as you so adeptly put it, is "low in stature"


...apparently u never had a gf who thinks you got served and roll bounce are great movies :rofl:

seriously though all yall who say this thread sucks or is pointless or whatever i have only 1 thing to say in response...+1.


What most ppl call the "console wars" is just a bunch of idiots saying my opinion on which console is the best is the right one becuse only my opinion matters!! Who the fuck cares what anyone says cuz the bottom line is exclusive titles+system specs are what drive us to prefer a system over another it's that simple so go play sports on the wii or resistance on ps3, or gears of war, graw2, lost planet, dead rising, crackdown, burnout revenge, anything on xbl arcade or any of the other great console war dominating 360 exclusives just be happy playing whatever and shut the fuck up.