Mortal Kombat, anyone?

[Lobelia Prime]

Meh, I don't think Mortal Kombat is a masterpiece of a fighting game, but it IS a fighting game. A damn fun one, I might add.
I like Deception, mostly due to the dial-up combos that I enjoy and the fact that they introduced a couple of killer new characters, notably the ingenious Capcom/SNK parody that is Kobra.
Come on, you can't tell me that performing a brutal decapitation on a random ninja isn't something you've found entertaining before.

[pherai]

You've been here at least a couple weeks and you still think this thread is going to go anywhere? Are you that dense?

And no, I don't find a brutal decapitation on a random ninja entertaining.

[Vynce]

I almost made a thread just like this about Ballz 3D.

Just kidding.

[oyg]

MKII tiers:
1) Mileena
2) Jax
3) Ermac

[Giza]

I almost made a thread just like this about Ballz 3D.

Just kidding.Everyone loved Ballz 3d :wonder:

[Makoto_lover]

mk may be a good game, but deception? PLEASE!!!! deception wasnt nowhere near armaggadon!!!! thats the great mk game ( even though i mk isnt my game!).

[Saotome Kaneda]

join date


location

[Lilman]

MK 2d>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MK 3D

K close thread bye. GTFO

Edit: Saotome i never get tired of ur AV.

[SFIII]

I really like MK Armageddon. The only reason I would go back to Deadly Alliance/Deception would be to see the character-specific fatalities. An MK fan's dream would be if they had 2 Fatalities and 1 Hara-Kiri (isn't it HARI-Kiri?!) for each of the 62 characters!!! They probably wouldn't have enough disc space though. *Just dreaming* :lovin:

[9TNine]

... I hate 2007.

-9

[oyg]

More like WOMBAT KOMBAT,
amiright?

[Kayin]

lol mortal kombat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuOTAs7wUic

And no, MK isn't a fighter.

[The Epidemic]

theres only two good mks....and its mkII and mk trilogy..everthing else fails in comparison...

[Kayin]

theres only two good mks....and its mkII and mk trilogy..everthing else fails in comparison...

UMK3?

[The Epidemic]

UMK3?

ok...so theres three:sweat:

[Fir]

"MKII" tiers:
1) Mileena
2) Jax
3) "Ermac"

I see what you did there...

Anyway, haven't touched a MK since Trilogy.

[Silks]

lol mortal kombat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuOTAs7wUic

And no, MK isn't a fighter.

LOL, man, that infinite takes some serious technical skill. The testers probably found it and decided to leave it because it's so hard to perform.

[MarkoftheSivak]

I disagree with you guys ive liked all the mk's except 4, id say DA and Deception were the best, Armageddon had stupid customs and only 2 styles per char.

Long live the true kombatants!

[Master Bigode]

I really like MK Armageddon. The only reason I would go back to Deadly Alliance/Deception would be to see the character-specific fatalities. An MK fan's dream would be if they had 2 Fatalities and 1 Hara-Kiri (isn't it HARI-Kiri?!) for each of the 62 characters!!! They probably wouldn't have enough disc space though. *Just dreaming* :lovin:

OMFG, You play a game just to see something you can't interact whit !?

[DJTPC]

MK is great until you get 14

[Video]

I love how "true kombatants" want fatalities and suicides. Nevermind the shallow 50/50 safe guessing game every time you got tripped in Deception. Or nearly every dominant poke giving you a free throw, which would almost certainly lead to an easy, braindead, infinite. Or at the very least give the person another 50/50 to start it all over.

There is no wake up in MK:D. There's pray you guessed right so you don't lose a round.

[Kayin]

I love how "true kombatants" want fatalities and suicides. Nevermind the shallow 50/50 safe guessing game every time you got tripped in Deception. Or nearly every dominant poke giving you a free throw, which would almost certainly lead to an easy, braindead, infinite. Or at the very least give the person another 50/50 to start it all over.

There is no wake up in MK:D. There's pray you guessed right so you don't lose a round.

Everyone rep this guy.

[Master Bigode]

After reading many MK-related posts on this forum, I noticed that most MK fans only cares about violence and the fatalities.
Ed Boon must be happy, since all he haves to do is create more gory fatalities.
Some MK fans should pay attention to gameplay as well...

[The Epidemic]

Everyone rep this guy.

will do..

[Infested Jester]

I disagree with you guys ive liked all the mk's except 4, id say DA and Deception were the best, Armageddon had stupid customs and only 2 styles per char.

Long live the true kombatants!


Yeah, MKD was truly awesome. Good thing the infinites in that one are hard to pull off.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lQftCLpsk_A

[GosBroDansFan]

After reading many MK-related posts on this forum, I noticed that most MK fans only cares about violence and the fatalities.
Ed Boon must be happy, since all he haves to do is create more gory fatalities.
Some MK fans should pay attention to gameplay as well...

Some do. But to them, UMK3 is the only MK game. And fatalities don't exist :-D

[TheVagabond]

Seriously, close thread.

[Master Bigode]

Personally, I only play MK1, MK2 and UMK3.
Seriously, close thread.

Seconded.

[Radical Dreamer]

As someone who actually likes the 3D Mortal Kombats (well, actually only MKA really), I can confirm that neither the MKA Moloch infinite, nor many of Deception's infinites, are hard to perform. MKA is a lot better than MKD since it actually has a wakeup game so that the game isn't reduced to pray you guess right or lose a round. Still, it's a 3D MK, and it's still a much simpler game than other 3D fighters. Unfortunately whenever I try to talk about tiers or gameplay on an MK forum it just drowns in the midst of fatality discussion.

Also, when people say 2D MK is better I think they pretty much just mean UMK3. I wouldn't really trust someone for fighting game opinions if they actually thought MK2 was a great game.

[EWAShock]

Some do. But to them, UMK3 is the only MK game. And fatalities don't exist :-D

Quoth the Dreemer. Nevermore. :party:

[PsychoSquall]

MK Shaolin Monks is the best MK game.

[Lobelia Prime]

I didn't expect to get flamed, but I SHOULD have explained myself first.
I haven't played a 2D Mortal Kombat game. EVER. I don't think Deception is a fantastic game, but it IS entertaining. I didn't really know anything about it until Deception, and a few of my friends were hyping it up. I'm really more or less a newbie to fighting games, and I have no earthy idea what's good and what's not. I also really don't post on SRK outside of this one thread. That's my bad. Sorry about that.

[Jr7891]

The only good things about the 3d MKs were Puzzle Kombat, Test your Might/Sight, the Krypt [In DA and D], and Cooking with Scorpion.

Gameplay fucking sucked. And how the hell is Kobra ingenious? Hes a fucking guy in a gi. Real creative and clever right there`

[Master Bigode]

The only good things about the 3d MKs were Puzzle Kombat, Test your Might/Sight, the Krypt [In DA and D], and Cooking with Scorpion.



Don't forget the new feature:

Bouncing Boobs.

[KnightWarrior]

Mortal Kombat 2 is always the best in the series

[4Play]

Cooking with Scorpion.


THat shit was great.Hilarilous (http://youtube.com/watch?v=iPrM5f545H8)

[Fir]

Mortal Kombat 2 is always the best in the series

I concur.

[Lobelia Prime]

Okay, now I'm interested. What's Cooking with Scorpion?
Again, like I said, sorry for making a shitty thread. I didn't know...newbie here.
Edit: Just watched the YouTube vid, freakin' hilarious.

[GosBroDansFan]

Mortal Kombat 2 is always the best in the series

...if you don't play other people

...and you don't like balanced rosters

...and if damage scaling is for sissies

[rukawa_kaede]

all the 2D ones

but MKII is my fav

[shoo]

in before lock

[JackTenrac!]

FINISH HIM!

...that went well.

[geadom]

Is MK Trilogy (N64) any good? Fellas around here play that game like madman's..

[kedawa]

Mortal Kombat has always been more fun to glitch than to play. When I was in high school, my local arcade had a loke test MKII. We got two or three different versions of the game, including the final one. The most entertaining thing about the game was the glitches. You could do shit like make a whole screen full of babies appear, or do a babality as anyone with Shang Tsung, then change back and uppercut the baby (it just vanished with the usual blood effect).

[skitz]

THat shit was great.Hilarilous (http://youtube.com/watch?v=iPrM5f545H8)

Wtf? :rofl:

Adding to my favorites,RIGHT NOW! :tup:

[1/2Man1/2God]

Mortal Kombat Trilogy for PS & SATURN...that is all..

[Hanzo_Hasashi]

Off topic:

Geadome:

Man wsup? Im from venezuela. Look do you have the chance of recording any footage of MKT over there? Here MKT N64 is widely played!

Feel free to elave a msg at www.mkkompetitive.com.ve

I checked your site it has good info and stuff!

[Master Bigode]

Is MK Trilogy (N64) any good? Fellas around here play that game like madman's..
Yeah, it's good.
There's something special about the music that entertains me the most.

Mortal Kombat has always been more fun to glitch than to play. When I was in high school, my local arcade had a loke test MKII. We got two or three different versions of the game, including the final one. The most entertaining thing about the game was the glitches. You could do shit like make a whole screen full of babies appear, or do a babality as anyone with Shang Tsung, then change back and uppercut the baby (it just vanished with the usual blood effect).

Lol, same here.

[Kayin]

Is MK Trilogy (N64) any good? Fellas around here play that game like madman's..

The fixed PSX (Greatest Hits) version is arguably better. Alot of problems with the previous versions were dealt with in this one making it alot more playable.

[Lobelia Prime]

The fixed PSX (Greatest Hits) version is arguably better. Alot of problems with the previous versions were dealt with in this one making it alot more playable.
Only thing that the N64 version has to go for it is Khameleon. The male Chameleon isn't as cool...I think the whole 'hay guys lets mix the ninja's powers' thing is old and unnecessary. Khameleon's fun, because they haven't overkilled the 'hay guys lets mix the powers of the female assassins' thing yet.

[ZEBES]

I DO like MK, but only 1 and 2. To me, the original MK atmosphere is a valuable thing, and MK2 has a nice gameplay, I can still have fun matches with fellow players... yes, Mileena IS god tier, but still beatable unless played by a pro IMHO. I obciously liked it for its fatalities 15 years ago, but when I came back to it is to actually PLAY the game. That's my 2 cents =)

and I don't like 3d MKs, specially hate MK4, lol

[1/2Man1/2God]

The fixed PSX (Greatest Hits) version is arguably better. Alot of problems with the previous versions were dealt with in this one making it alot more playable.

that's what i said and i got negged for it...

[Master Bigode]

that's what i said and i got negged for it...

I've got negged for saying this:
Is MK Trilogy (N64) any good? Fellas around here play that game like madman's..Yeah, it's good.
There's something special about the music that entertains me the most.

I wish I could understand why, but fuck it.

[Rikidozan]

3D infinite goodness, I need this game. It's so broken, reminds me of good old Killer Instinct times... awesome

[Lobelia Prime]

I DO like MK, but only 1 and 2. To me, the original MK atmosphere is a valuable thing, and MK2 has a nice gameplay, I can still have fun matches with fellow players... yes, Mileena IS god tier, but still beatable unless played by a pro IMHO. I obciously liked it for its fatalities 15 years ago, but when I came back to it is to actually PLAY the game. That's my 2 cents =)

and I don't like 3d MKs, specially hate MK4, lol
Mortal Kombat 4 is ass...
I actually played Trilogy recently. It's good. I can't play it worth beets, though, less I'm using Kitana or Mileena. I kind of like Deception because of the hilarious new characters. Have you guys seen Kobra? He's kind of a mix of Ken Masters, Terry Bogard, Iori Yagami, and Kyo Kusanagi. It's funny and whatwhat.

[The-Majestic]

I'm going to go with... douche bag.

[Fir]

I loved the aggresive Meter in Trilogy. Even better than the Run Meter.

[sowutifmahsnsux]

mortal kombat as a fighting game sucks, plain and simple. the only reason why it's popular is because of its outrageous and gruesome violence. and that's not even something worth taking pride in

[geadom]

Off topic:

Geadome:

Man wsup? Im from venezuela. Look do you have the chance of recording any footage of MKT over there? Here MKT N64 is widely played!

Feel free to elave a msg at www.mkkompetitive.com.ve

I checked your site it has good info and stuff!

Some peeps here (The Dominican Republic) play A LOT of that game.. they prefer it over UMK3, and the PsOne version of trilogy. If you use msn PM me your username and we can/could talk more. By the way, did you entered our forums? www.honmaru.proboards12.com

Back to topic: To the guys of darktemplarz, what do you think of N64 Trilogy/Psone Trilogy AND Snes/saturn UMK3?

[1/2Man1/2God]

I've got negged for saying this:


I wish I could understand why, but fuck it.

i guess that's what i get for saying something other than what everyone else was saying.If i don't cosign, i'll get negged.I guess if i started only cosigning though..i would start getting negged for that too. o well..shit happens.

[Fir]

I can't remember but was trilogy on the N64?

[_MJ_#R]

I can't remember but was trilogy on the N64?

yes:wonder: :wonder:

[1/2Man1/2God]

I can't remember but was trilogy on the N64?

yes..it was also on the ps1 and the saturn.I think the ps1 version is the best.N64 is horrible for fighters.

[Fir]

yes:wonder: :wonder:

Yeah, I've forgotten. There was - but what the hell was Mortal Kombat Gold or some shit I remember? @_@

[GosBroDansFan]

Yeah, I've forgotten. There was - but what the hell was Mortal Kombat Gold or some shit I remember? @_@

Yeah, MK Gold, a Dreamcast exclusive. They added a bunch of characters, and pretty much all of them are broken as hell and instantly become top tier.

[geadom]

Yeah, MK Gold, a Dreamcast exclusive. They added a bunch of characters, and pretty much all of them are broken as hell and instantly become top tier.

Can you or any of the DT guys answer my questions, plz?

Thx in advance.

Also: What are the tiers for UMK and MKT?
What is the best version of MKT and UMK?

[Master Bigode]

Also: What are the tiers for UMK and MKT?
Most accepted is:
PSX's MKT:
1. Noob Saibot
2. Rain
3. Kabal
4. Human Smoke
5. MK2 Kung Lao
6. Baraka
7. Kung Lao
8. Kano
9. Reptile
10. Ermac
11. Nightwolf
12. MK2 Jax
13. Robot smoke
14. Scorpion
15. Sindel
16. Jax
17. Raiden
18. Sonya
19. Kitana
20. MK1 Raiden
21. Stryker
22. Sektor
23. Unmasked Sub-zero
24. Jade
25. Liu Kang
26. Classic Sub-zero
27. Cyrax
28. Shang Tsung
29. Mileena
30. MK1 Kano
31. Johnny Cage
32. Sheeva

Arcade UMK3:
1. Kabal
2. Human Smoke
3. Kung Lao
4. Kano
5. Reptile
6. Ermac
7. Nightwolf
8. Robo Smoke
9. Sindel
10. Jax
11. Sonya
12. Kitana
13. Stryker
14. Scorpion
15. Unmasked Sub-Zero
16. Jade
17. Liu Kang
18. Sektor
19. Classic Sub-Zero
20. Cyrax
21. Shang Tsung
22. Mileena
23. Sheeva
What is the best version of MKT and UMK?
IMO, N64's MKT is more balanced than PSX's.
I haven't played enough to make sure, so I don't have sure.
And the arcade version of UMK3 is definitely the best.

[GosBroDansFan]

Can you or any of the DT guys answer my questions, plz?

Thx in advance.

Also: What are the tiers for UMK and MKT?
What is the best version of MKT and UMK?

Whoops, missed your question before.

There are multiple versions of MKT for each platform. The best version is the labeled "Greatest Hits" on the PSX and on PC its got "(Final)" after the version number on the About window. Those 2 versions are essentially identical. Just some minor graphical tweaks because they are different platforms, the PC version has IPX based netplay.

There was also a less refined version of MKT. That version was available for the PSX, PC, and for Saturn. AFAIK this less refined version (lowered gravity, more broken comboing) is the best version available for Saturn.

And then there was the Buggy MKT, which was just all around broken. I've only found that for PSX.

PC, PSX, Saturn versions look the same and are built from the same code base.

MKT for N64 is a completely different game. It's missing a few (7) characters, and a lot of frames of animation. Almost all recovery times have been reduced, gravity works a bit different, and in general it's more broken and easier to get big damage combos in because they also removed some of the properties on moves that were put in to balance them.

However, even the best version of MKT is still just a fun game, nothing serious. None of them are really balanced or particularly competitive.

MKT has a lot of characters, and the PSX/PC/Saturn version was an obvious attempt to reproduce all aspects of UMK3 gameplay for the Arcade, which means it has potential. But it was never balanced. And MKT for N64 was built almost like an enhanced UMK3 for SNES. It doesn't really play like the other 2D MK games and it's overall depth and quality suffer because of it.

SNES/Saturn UMK3...the only good home version of UMK3 is for the 360. Saturn UMK3 was built from the same base code as MK3 for PSX and Windows. It has bad graphics, and really busted up gameplay. It's basically MK3 with the Ultimate content haphazardly hacked in. UMK3 for SNES and Genesis are just terrible.

The main value that home versions of UMK3 and MKT had was that they were the closest thing that was available to actually playing UMK3 for the Arcade.

[geadom]

The main problem here in the Dominican Republic is that NEVER ANARCADE SCENE has existed. Only for a few games, and limited in time (when the machines brokes or is damaged beyond repair). So we all here play mainly on consoles.

It was a pain in the early day, but now that the modern consoles can emulate the arcade experience at 100%..

Thx for your responses anyway. Do you or anyone knows where i can get the Ps1 MKT (greatest hits) or the FINAL Pc Version? Plz PM me if someone knows. Thx in advance.

[Fir]

^Why is Human Smoke #4? Doesn't he have an infinite combo you can't get out of?

[GosBroDansFan]

^Why is Human Smoke #4? Doesn't he have an infinite combo you can't get out of?

Human Smoke has a relaunch infinite but that's his only infinite and the timing for relaunches in general is tricky. So having that as an inf doesn't really boost your rank too much. Pretty much every character can relaunch, but only a handful (H.Smoke, Kano, Ermac) can relaunch every other character in UMK3. I'm sure some of the added characters in Trilogy can relaunch most or all characters as well.

In MKT, Noob is broken in every way. Infs are possible but unnecessary. You can just toy with them and win. That's why he's god tier. Rain is god tier as well and he has an easy inf that you can get off pretty much any connected attack.

Kabal and H.Smoke are still very good characters, but it's not because of brokenness or infs so much as they are just all around good characters. The same things make them good in MKT as in UMK3. But in MKT, that doesn't get them the top spot because Noob and Rain are just too broken.

[skitz]

Most accepted is:
PSX's MKT:
1. Noob Saibot
2. Rain
3. Shang Tsung


:rock:

[SFIII]

After reading many MK-related posts on this forum, I noticed that most MK fans only cares about violence and the fatalities.
Ed Boon must be happy, since all he haves to do is create more gory fatalities.
Some MK fans should pay attention to gameplay as well...

But MK wouldn't be nearly as popular without Fatalities. If they left it up to the gameplay without the Fatalities in the MK series, it wouldn't have been nearly as successful.

[Master Bigode]

PSX's MKT:
1. Noob Saibot
2. Rain
3. Shang Tsung:rock:

Shang Tsung is High tier only in the N64 version.
Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCU_UoW2pKY
BTW, the guy playing is Brazilian.

[Fir]

Ok, I see. I played as noob before and I know how broken he is.

What about Rain? Does it have something to do with that lighting atk.?

[GosBroDansFan]

Ok, I see. I played as noob before and I know how broken he is.

What about Rain? Does it have something to do with that lighting atk.?

In PSX the lightning isn't a huge threat since you have to be on the ground to be hit, and it's blockable. In N64 you can get someone that's in the air so long as they are close to the ground so it makes it more of a threat.

aaHP, roundhouse is Rain's inf. That's one of the real big reasons for his rank.

They replaced his roundhouse with the super roundhouse. It's a special move that replaces a regular move. It's very fast. It does good damage. And it sets up lots of combos including his infinite.

Things that lead to Rain's inf:
aaHP or aaLP
autocombo starting with punch, kick, jump punch or sujk
roundhouse
lightning
projectile
jump kick

And with the lightning and projectile, because of the huge popup off the lightning and the fact you can control the opponent with the projectile, you can get them with it when they are almost anywhere on screen and still get in and start the inf.

Infs don't usually play a huge role in MK, but his inf is easy and you can get it in so many situations. So he quickly becomes a very abuseable character.

[GosBroDansFan]

Shang Tsung is High tier only in the N64 version.
Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCU_UoW2pKY
BTW, the guy playing is Brazilian.

Even in N64 I don't think his rank goes up much. The morphs happen faster but you still can't control when you morph back, and Shang still isn't a particularly good character. He has the D+HK corner inf though, so having an incredibly easy corner inf probably helps.

And that vid probably isn't the best guide because morphing is a lot easier when it's a machine assisted speedrun, aka, he was playing the game extremely slowed down and constantly accessing save states, maybe even advancing a frame at a time depending on how much time he put into it.

Not to mention he was playing against the CPU and every character is good against the CPU.

[Fir]

Ok, I thought you could catch somebody with the lighting atk. and keep doing it over and over (Lighting Trap)

And what's the deal with brutalities in this game? I remember I couldn't do them because the input was too fast. Is it even possible?

[axeman61]

I like MK, but I don't like what it's become. Midway's greed, the hit-or-miss ideas, and the lack of competent testers for the game have made it horrible in comparison to other fighters.
Though there's a very, very slight glimmer of hope, since they seem to have let up on that "one MK a year" deal (minus MKA for the wii, we won't get substantial info on MK8 until next year) and the slate is being wiped clean.

[GosBroDansFan]

Ok, I thought you could catch somebody with the lighting atk. and keep doing it over and over (Lighting Trap)

And what's the deal with brutalities in this game? I remember I couldn't do them because the input was too fast. Is it even possible?

Brutalities are possible. But I don't know why people would even do them, lol.

I like MK, but I don't like what it's become. Midway's greed and the lack of competent testers for the game have made it horrible in comparison to other fighters.
Though there's a very, very slight glimmer of hope, since they seem to have let up on that "one MK a year" deal (minus MKA for the wii, we won't get substantial info on MK8 until next year) and the slate is being wiped clean.

MK was always about marketing more than anyhting. Tobias happen to be around drawing the gameplay out and making it deeper as the games got released. When he left, that left with him, so now it's just Boon's marketting left. And so MK's suck and it looks like they'll continue to suck until some major staff changes happen. Even if they take more time to make the new MK games, they'll still suck so long as all they care about is how marketable the game is to the masses.

MK8 will come out to excitement. The gameplay will be shallow and broken. It'll sell a bajillion copies. Then it'll win fighting game of the year at the VGAs.

[Fir]

How fast are the input commands(Brutalities)? All my friends get like 4 hits then mess up or something.

[axeman61]

Not as much fast as rhythmic, I guess. Kitana's brutality was the only one I could pull off, but the speed didn't matter as much as getting that "dial-up combo" rhythm down and keeping it consistent.
It's been long since I played though, so I'm sorry if that doesn't help.

[skitz]

Shang Tsung is High tier only in the N64 version.
Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCU_UoW2pKY
BTW, the guy playing is Brazilian.

Shang Tsung is god.

Adding to my favorites.

[Fir]

What's Kabal's deal?

I thought the Tornado Dash could be blocked, although any good player would jumping HK, Dash, ground spikes, then whatever combo.

This guy's a combo machine. He has lots of chains, but I still don't see #1 overall.

[Vynce]

I've only pulled off one Brutality ever. It was Baraka's, and I couldn't believe I'd done it. Once it was over, I wondered why I'd even bothered in the first place. There were 100 ways to see 3 skulls, 15 pelvises, and 36 spines. Out of all of them, the Brutality was perhaps the least exciting.

[GosBroDansFan]

What's Kabal's deal?

I thought the Tornado Dash could be blocked, although any good player would jumping HK, Dash, ground spikes, then whatever combo.

This guy's a combo machine. He has lots of chains, but I still don't see #1 overall.

Kabal's spin can be blocked. But it is very fast, and it has extremely little startup. Also he has good punches for runjabbing. And he has an air projectile that is nice and big. He is the top of the ranks because he has fantastic rushdown, and can still play good keep away, and while rushing or zoning he can punish the opponent any time they leave the ground. His value isn't in combos so much as tactics.

[EWAShock]

Kabal is a complete character.

[Ki Shima]

i always thought the brutalities were easy :confused:

kabal is fun to use, i keep doing dash with lk,lk,hp,hp,:down:hp,jump kick, air projectile. for 8 hits, its fun :wonder:

[Fir]

i always thought the brutalities were easy :confused:

kabal is fun to use, i keep doing dash with lk,lk,hp,hp,:down:hp,jump kick, air projectile. for 8 hits, its fun :wonder:

Mine

Jump-in HK, Tornado Dash, Ground Nails, lk, lk, hp, hp, hk, hk or down hp.

How many brutalities can you do exactly? Because I have trouble with most of them.

[E-bortion]

brutalities arent hard. its like someone said before me, getting dial-up down. keeping consistent input and ignoring what you hear and see on the screen. by the way, cool thread. i know a lot of people hate on MK nonstop, but i think its great fun.

[Fir]

Yeah, that's the problem. I WANT to see brutalities but if I focus on the screen my hands get mixed. o_o

x_x

[Jaurenlo]

yeah...

Never was big on the MK thing... but I guess I aint alone in that.

[1/2Man1/2God]

yeah...

Never was big on the MK thing... but I guess I aint alone in that.

Alot of people aren't especially since they turned 3-D.I think eventually MIDWAY will discover what they are doing wrong with MK and revive the series.

[GosBroDansFan]

Midway won't do that because they sold tons of copies of the recent 3D MK games. From a business standpoint they already figured out what they were doing wrong and they already revived the MK series :-/ But only for looking at, not for playing.

[Fir]

Well, I'd rather gameplay than looks. Which is why many people still favor MK2, UMK, MKT, etc.

[Ki Shima]

Mine

Jump-in HK, Tornado Dash, Ground Nails, lk, lk, hp, hp, hk, hk or down hp.

How many brutalities can you do exactly? Because I have trouble with most of them.

this is going back yearrrrsss ago, iv probably completed about 5 peoples brutalities

cant remember who though, think liu kang scorpion stryker mileena, this was when umk was out

[Fir]

this is going back yearrrrsss ago, iv probably completed about 5 peoples brutalities

cant remember who though, think liu kang scorpion stryker mileena, this was when umk was out

I think Raiden's was the easiest in MKT, but I might be wrong.

[GosBroDansFan]

Well, I'd rather gameplay than looks. Which is why many people still favor MK2, UMK, MKT, etc.

Yeah, I'd definately prefer gameplay which is why UMK3 is the only one I play. But I think good gameplay in MK was just a fluke. Something Tobias managed to slip in while the rest of the MK team was focusing on how to sell more units.

[Takahashi]

After I picked up video gaming again I went for technical game play wise.
It was totally different up to Mortal Kombat II.
There are some videos on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Mortal+Kombat+combos&search=Search) showing combos,
however I do need more nowadays to keep playing a versus fighting video game.

We got ourselves Mortal Kombat because this video game was somewhat out of line with the other games at that time.
We choose it because of the visual stimulation, I am so ashamed of that now.
I find I should have gotten Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mutant Warriors instead back then.
We did choose Mortal Kombat again with the second part.
And again just for visual stimulation, the fatalities and this time also Babalities and Friendships.
They are censored on the Nintendo Super Famicom,
so we had to get the USA or Europe version to get all the visual candy.

My sister even got the magazine Super Play, Issue 24, October 1994, especially for Mortal Kombat II.
Mortal Kombat franchise was not that popular at our region so this was our ultimate guide to the Mortal Kombat II game.

Until this day I can not get the Pong trick to work,
when the required parameters are fulfilled the game just freezes up.

[Juggy]

jab jab jab jab
trip
trip
trip
trip
jab jab jab jab
trip

[Fir]

Pong in MK2? Thought it was in 3...

[Master Bigode]

You need 250 wins in the VS mode.
Takes a LOT of time.
I wonder if anyone ever played 250 consecutive times in a real arcade.

[Fir]

And that's in 3 right? Because I thought you had to fight Noob by building up victories in MK2 VS.

[karate_ghost]

no in mk3, you play invadars. (really its in mk3 ultimate for genesis).

[kev_the_bev]

anyone in here up on ultimate mortal kombat trilogy? (the hack)

[GosBroDansFan]

Do you mean UMK3+ for Genesis?

[Master Bigode]

And that's in 3 right? Because I thought you had to fight Noob by building up victories in MK2 VS.
It's MK2.
Like I said before, you need to get 250 consecutive wins in the VS mode.
You fight against noob when you get 50 wins.
anyone in here up on ultimate mortal kombat trilogy? (the hack)
I PLAY IT!!!11!!
Do you mean UMK3+ for Genesis?
The name is Ultimate Mortal Kombat Trilogy.
I've found it reading wikipedia....
lol.

[Fir]

The regular MK3 for the genesis had 2 player pong. Was it a vs. code?

[Master Bigode]

The regular MK3 for the genesis had 2 player pong. Was it a vs. code?

Yes.
303-606

[Fir]

Lol, ok. I knew because I used to play it all the time back then.

In MK2, I would only get up to 50 wins because it was hella boring. 250 is madness :O

[Master Bigode]

Lol, ok. I knew because I used to play it all the time back then.

In MK2, I would only get up to 50 wins because it was hella boring. 250 is madness :O
I actually tried to do that alone some years ago.
It's awesomely boring.:wasted:
I lost my patience and turned the game off.
Then, I bought a Game Genie and everything became sexy.

[Fir]

I actually tried to do that alone some years ago.
It's awesomely boring.:wasted:
I lost my patience and turned the game off.
Then, I bought a Game Genie and everything became sexy.

Lol! I did test modes one hit kill and it was STILL boring. I was like "fuck it" after battling noob.

[Master Bigode]

Lol! I did test modes one hit kill and it was STILL boring. I was like "fuck it" after battling noob.

Now I'm wondering, why a simple secret like this is so hard to get, while it's easy to play against the secret characters.(Playing against the secret characters is better than playing pong IMO.)
It's a total waste of money(in the arcade version) just to play such a primitive game.

[Takahashi]

My sister and I where quite crazy back then playing this for hours straight.
We have tried the Pong thing on several Super Nintendo cartridges now
and every time the game freezes up when it is time to get Pong.
We should have been playing Super Street Fighter II The New Challengers.

If someone actually succeeds with a Super Nintendo version,
please put it on YouTube or something with the Super Nintendo in sight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gHVf2PE3G4
By hearing the music I do not think it is the Super Nintendo version.
if I am wrong please tell me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7qRDrNU-jc
The dude says Mortal Kombat II Arcade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBsxWLr-rUk
Might that be the Super Nintendo version?

[Fir]

I have no idea, they always make the secret characters 10 times harder than the normal characters. At least in the mini games you have a chance, but that's a tough Noob in MK2.

Jade and Smoke are no pushover either, but they all were created from the same formats as the regular characters.

Just smarter and faster.

[RaiJinKen]

Shang Tsung is High tier only in the N64 version.
Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCU_UoW2pKY
BTW, the guy playing is Brazilian.

That was fun to watch, being "legit" or not. Thanks for the link. :tup:

[Master Bigode]

I have no idea, they always make the secret characters 10 times harder than the normal characters. At least in the mini games you have a chance, but that's a tough Noob in MK2.

Jade and Smoke are no pushover either, but they all were created from the same formats as the regular characters.

Just smarter and faster.

Thank god they aren't selectable....XD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gHVf2PE3G4
By hearing the music I do not think it is the Super Nintendo version.
if I am wrong please tell me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7qRDrNU-jc
The dude says Mortal Kombat II Arcade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBsxWLr-rUk
Might that be the Super Nintendo version?
All of those videos are from arcade versions.
I have the original arcade games, so I remember how the graphics and sounds are.

[Fir]

No doubt, Noob and Rain alone pretty much made Trilogy and UMK3+ broken. I could beat the Master level with those two alone without ever dying.

[Master Bigode]

No doubt, Noob and Rain alone pretty much made Trilogy and UMK3+ broken. I could beat the Master level with those two alone without ever dying.

Don't forget MK1 Shang Tsung, Goro, Kintaro and MK2 Shao Khan in UMKT.
They are BROKEN.

[Fir]

Don't forget MK1 Shang Tsung, Goro, Kintaro and MK2 Shao Khan in UMKT.
They are BROKEN.

Of course, I would expect nothing less from those characters who were once bosses in their own right. Not so much as Shang anyway (though he was pretty broken in 2, then kinda fell off from 3 and on)

[True Grave]

Reading that other thread on here(recently closed), made me want to go back and revisit MK trilogy for the PSX.

Ahhh 1 button auto-fatality's! :lovin:

[{PFH}-Lake]

Don't forget MK1 Shang Tsung, Goro, Kintaro and MK2 Shao Khan in UMKT.
They are BROKEN. I think boss characters are banned. And Noob and Rain both own Shang in MKT.

UMK3 Noob and Rain were only in the snes and gen versions not arcade or DS.

Anyone know how to unlock Raiden and that blind folded guy in puzzle kombat?

[EWAShock]

I have no idea why that thread was closed honestly. Maybe there's a rule MK threads can't exceed 10 pages.

[ElderGOD]

I think boss characters are banned. And Noob and Rain both own Shang in MKT.

UMK3 Noob and Rain were only in the snes and gen versions not arcade or DS.

Anyone know how to unlock Raiden and that blind folded guy in puzzle kombat?


I don't know if the arcade had a bootleg, but I recall doing Noob's infinite in UMK3.

To select him you had to enter the codes before the round starts.

[{PFH}-Lake]

I have no idea why that thread was closed honestly. Maybe there's a rule MK threads can't exceed 10 pages. mod said it was getting out of hand. Really no one was mad or getting into flame wars. Noob and Rain are only in the snes and gensis versions. People just bad mouth UMK3, and these same people play mvc2 and cvs2, and other un-balanced games. Which doesnt make any sense cause no game has perfect balance; maybe but VF4evo

[Embryo]

I honestly dont see a valid reason to close down the mk thread, we were only talking about strats and just watever gaming threads talk about....it was all pretty typical. Looks like a certain mod has his head up his ass. Anyways shock i had asked in the last thread wat was kabals win ratio agaisnt sheeva, is it something like 8-2/9-1?

[goodm0urning]

People just bad mouth UMK3, and these same people play mvc2 and cvs2, and other un-balanced games.People make broad generalizations about things people say and games people play, without taking into account the possibility that some people enjoy or at least tolerate the games they've been pigeonholed into hating... don't they?

[EWAShock]

Noob was only selectable in the wavenet version of UMK3, which was basically a demo back in the late 90s that never took off. He had a teleport but it wasn't a move that could attack, I dunno what the limts were.

With Kabal to Sheeva it's hard to say, maybe just put it as their tier numbers and say is 23-1 odds but that might be a little unfair. Certain characters really can't beat a good a Kabal, but at least half the cast in the hands of an expert player for that character can be considered anywhere from "gives him trouble" to "he's gotta be on his game" to win. An average Sheeva player will lose a lot more often to an average Kabal player than a pro Sheeva vs a Pro Kabal. There are certain things about her that make it harder to win, namely her height vs the air fireballs, her duck animation gets stuck under pressure for some reason, but it doesn't register as ducking. She's highly vulnerable to the game's system which makes her reverse broken.

Some people say "It matters who is playing, the better player will always win." But as we all know here, that isn't true. The top tier are there because it's easier to win with them, meaning you don't have to be as good to beat most players with a few characters. The character strengths still have influence on the outcome of the match. I use the ratio system often and say something like, it would take a ratio 10 (of 10) Sheeva to beat even a ratio 5 or so Kabal player consistently. This applies to many games. The better player will always win when they are using the same character. Then you have to get into people who play eachother a lot, and when they know how that person plays so well on top of their regular strats, tiers can be a little fuzzy but you will still see it come into play, ie: familiar players picking the top characters just to beat eachother.

I can beat just about any Kabal player no matter how good they are with Reptile, and my Reptile isn't the best but the match sets are close. For example at ECCXI the finals were me as Reptile vs Bill's dirty nasty Kabal. He came back through the losers brack and won the first set 3 - 2 all Kabal vs Reptile, then the second set I won 3 - 0 so technically the outcome was 5 - 3. So maybe this was considered a ratio 9 Reptile vs ratio 8.5 Kabal?

[{PFH}-Lake]

Sheeva isnt even fun to play, id rather play Sean then Sheeva.

I dont know why people bring up Sean anyway, its not like Sean or 12 are ever going to win evo or any major tournament.

[GosBroDansFan]

Sheeva isnt even fun to play, id rather play Sean then Sheeva.

I dont know why people bring up Sean anyway, its not like Sean or 12 are ever going to win evo or any major tournament.

There are some fun parts to Sheeva. A very powerful autocombo means easy damage. And she has 2 unblockable (but avoidable) special moves. Unfortunately just about anything you can imagine will combo on her. And she's too tall.

[DrumlinerJoe]

Was the DS port of UMK3 any good? I read that it had online play and was thinking of picking it up, but remembered the the MK Advance fiasco.

[EWAShock]

UMK DS is worth picking up. I wouldn't take the set up seriously for true competitive play but it's fun and plays like the arcade, just a bit faster.

[DrumlinerJoe]

Sounds like a good deal. Thanks man.

[{PFH}-Lake]

I got the DS UMK3 cause of Wi-Fi battles, and you dont need someones F-code to play.

[Lobelia Prime]

I like how I made this thread, got negged to shit for it, and now it's a thriving paradise of a thread. Good shit, I lold. :tup:

[SpinalBlood]

join date


location

And you call yourself a moderator?:rolleyes:

[New Era Outlaw]

Though there's a very, very slight glimmer of hope, since they seem to have let up on that "one MK a year" deal (minus MKA for the wii, we won't get substantial info on MK8 until next year) and the slate is being wiped clean.

I seriously don't know why the hell Midway even made that statement to begin with. Good games take time, and one year is definitely not enough to make a substantial title. Look at what happened to Mortal Kombat Armageddon, for example: No bios in-game, narrated endings with no afterthought behind them, recycled costumes, fighting styles and designs from the previous games and so on, and so forth.

Any MK fan (including myself) would tell you that in nearly every game he speaks of, Ed Boon would always make the following statement:

"I wanted to put that in, but we just didn't have enough time."

Then again, he said that in response to "Why can't Blaze and Mokap have their own moves or Fatalities?", and they had four whole years to work on that game.

Well, I'm hoping that whatever MK8 turns out to be, it's something that will rekindle my faith in the franchise.

[True Grave]

I seriously don't know why the hell Midway even made that statement to begin with. Good games take time, and one year is definitely not enough to make a substantial title. Look at what happened to Mortal Kombat Armageddon, for example: No bios in-game, narrated endings with no afterthought behind them, recycled costumes, fighting styles and designs from the previous games and so on, and so forth.

Any MK fan (including myself) would tell you that in nearly every game he speaks of, Ed Boon would always make the following statement:

"I wanted to put that in, but we just didn't have enough time."

Then again, he said that in response to "Why can't Blaze and Mokap have their own moves or Fatalities?", and they had four whole years to work on that game.

Well, I'm hoping that whatever MK8 turns out to be, it's something that will rekindle my faith in the franchise.

I don't see why your surprised at stuff like that. Even on its best days/games, the MK titles were always done rather Half-assed.

The only way things will change is if the morons in charge are replaced by a GOOD game design team that actually know what they're doing.

MK series: Good concepts/design that are usually executed Poorly in the end, but who cares if it sucks when you can rip your opponent's head off right? Right?

Edit: Shaolin monks kicked all kinds of ass though. A rare gem that one is.

[Stuart Hayden]

I don't know if this has been answered or not since I haven't checked FGD since that last MK thread got stupid, but what're the differences of the DS Port to Arcade? Is there just random lag when playing people? or anything serious? Cause I'm probably going to get this next week.

[MaDWaK]

I don't know if this has been answered or not since I haven't checked FGD since that last MK thread got stupid, but what're the differences of the DS Port to Arcade? Is there just random lag when playing people? or anything serious? Cause I'm probably going to get this next week.

the DS port is supposed to be arcade perfect. go buy it.

[30_60_90]

I love UMK3 not because it's a good game but because MK was the first fighter I ever played and therefore will always have a soft spot in my heart for. I always liked to play scorpion and robot smoke.

[Guardian]

Wow@me reviving a dead thread.

I'm starting to play MKA with a friend for shits and giggles, where can I find info on it like air cancelling, combos, infinites, strats, etc? SRK isn't exactly the booming place for MK lol

[MaDWaK]

Wow@me reviving a dead thread.

I'm starting to play MKA with a friend for shits and giggles, where can I find info on it like air cancelling, combos, infinites, strats, etc? SRK isn't exactly the booming place for MK lol

go check www.mortalkombatonline.com forums. theres high level strats for the 3d MKs in there. I would say www.ultimatemk.com but they focus on more on umk3/ the 2d games. check both sites though

[EWAShock]

I wish some of the 3D MK players would come over to ultimatemk and help out.

[orochizoolander]

UMK3>all other mk's.

[Ubersaurus]

I started playing UMK3 a short time ago, upon discovering a few friends liked the game and were willing to do some matches.

It's actually pretty fun! Kabal really is beastly though...

Anyway I read online that there air throws in this game. Does everyone have them, or just a couple characters?

[GStick]

Just certain characters, use Block in the air for most of them. Cyrax's air throw is a special move though.

[maxx mana]

We have a UMK3 cabinet in one of our break rooms, I love that game.

The combo system was fun back when it first came out, and I think its even more fun now that people have figured out ways to break it and really do crazy stuff with characters.

When I finally break down and buy a 360, I want to make MK3 a stick for it.

[GosBroDansFan]

I started playing UMK3 a short time ago, upon discovering a few friends liked the game and were willing to do some matches.

It's actually pretty fun! Kabal really is beastly though...

Anyway I read online that there air throws in this game. Does everyone have them, or just a couple characters?

Scorpion, Human Smoke, Robo Smoke, Kano, Jax have regular air throws. Cyrax has a command throw. When your opponent is in the air and rax is on the ground, d,f,block launches you at them tracking a bit, then LP grabs them when you get close.

[A_Rival]

Count me in. I'd rather watch UMK3 on a big screen that Ass Brothers Brawl.

[Sonichuman]

Count me in. I'd rather watch UMK3 on a big screen that Ass Brothers Brawl.

hmmm...the hate is strong in this one....