hypnosis - does it work/is it real?

[Cisco]

Ya, i'm thinking of going under hypnosis.

The reason is because

1. I want to quit smoking. It's way to hard to stop and i consider myself a chain smoker

2. I hav speach problems. I stutter allot, even worse in Tagalog. There are times when i feel like getting into a conversation and end up eating my words - and barely anyone can understand WTF i'm talkin about.


These are the 2 things i want to cure. Smoking and stuttering... and i heard about hypnosis from my psychology teacher.. thing is, i xpect that shit to be expensive and ya i kinda think that shit doesn' work so i don't want to end up spending my money for nothing.

Anyone here tried it or knows anyone who tried it?

[Gasp]

It doesnt work.<- period

what you do is
MAN UP
stop fucking smoking and keep talking aloud and loosen up stuttering stems from nervousness, stop worry so much about what people think

[Cisco]

It doesnt work.<- period

what you do is
MAN UP
stop fucking smoking and keep talking aloud and loosen up stuttering stems from nervousness, stop worry so much about what people think



It's not because i'm nervous, it's just eventually my words start sounding all fucked up. Most of the time when i talk to someone, an i'm the one talking for 3 min straight i barely can be understood.

2. Smoking is harder than you think.

[Zero]

Ya, i'm thinking of going under hypnosis.

The reason is because...

....Anyone here tried it or knows anyone who tried it?

It works.

I've used it on myself to give me the willpower to eat right and exercize. I've lost a massive amount of weight because of it.

I've used it on a few others to help them quit smoking cold turkey.


It's a lot better (and cheaper) if you learn to do it yourself. For beginners, I would recommend Hypnosis for Dummies.

And one more thing:

If you intend to learn hypnosis, don't advertise it like I stupidly did. Most people either vehemently do not believe in it (usually because it conflicts with the religious concept of free will), or they get very suspicious of everything you say (thinking that you are trying to hypnotise them).

[Golden Dragon]

Yeah it works (I saw it performed at my school) but not on everyone. Some people just can't to be hypnotized.

[MechZZ]

It works if you believe it. If you strongly are against it, it won't work on you.

[box]

Hypnotism does work, however only on people that want to be hypnotized.

A bunch of friends and I went up on stage to try it out. One of us fell under. It was absolutely hilarious. The guy made him act out his favorite sexual position.

Also keep in mind, that the hypnotist can only make you do things that your mind would allow you to do. If the hypnotist asks you to kill someone, you won't do it... unless you're a homicidal maniac.

[ChairHome]

2. Smoking is harder than you think.

Any idiot can smoke. Just pop in a cigarette, light, and inhale.

I know what you meant.

Hypnosis can work. They used it on mythbusters.

[Ki Shima]

ofcourse it works, MTV have been using it for years

[YellowS4]

Watch Mythbusters.

[*InVeRs3*]

The more skeptical you are the least likely you are to be hypnotized.

[MegamanDS]

mythbusters proved it only works on a selected ammount of people. usually people who are willing to believe it.

[Juggy]

It has been explained many times. It works for a lot of people because they are so willing to please the hypnotist and make it seem like it works that their subconscious gives in and they do what they say.

Willpower is an extremely strong thing, and going under hypnosis may be the right thing for you, but I personally don't like to do things that are out of my own control. I've broken every addiction I've had whenever I felt like quitting, because I just stopped doing it.

[Tito Mel]

youtube darren brown. hes this magician/hypnotist, the things he does is pretty crazy, there are some videos up explaining what he does too. He is usually pritty straight forward in his tricks and you can catch how they are being hypnotized or suggested. I was a little skeptical too but darren brown makes it make sense as to how people can be suggested to.

as far as smoking, i guess you could condition yourself to force yourself to punch yourself in the nads everytime you have a smoke. eventually you will associate smoking with getting punched in the nads. Or if you dont want to punch yourself in the nads, try to associate smoking with some other thing thats bad.

thats all i got

[AkumaTX]

It works for people who are open minded and give in to that psychology bullshit, example you.

[HoneyBBQGrundle]

It doesnt work.<- period

what you do is
MAN UP
stop fucking smoking

That's pretty stupid advice. Unless you talk in a low, soothing voice and charge $100 an hour. Then it's some powerful, convincing science!

[ShinAkumax]

It works in the sense that it makes people think a 3rd party is giving them power. So they can do the things they want.

I think it's a flawed way to empower yourself and it's only for the weak. The strong are capable of change without cheap gimmicks. Hypnosis is kinda like god in that sense.

Well, whatever, obey fools.


2. I hav speach problems. I stutter allot, even worse in Tagalog. There are times when i feel like getting into a conversation and end up eating my words - and barely anyone can understand WTF i'm talkin about.
stuttering...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIqXnZPDkcQ

Scatman John > Hypnosis

[white shadow]

It works, but since smoking is a physiological addiction it may be harder for it to work.

[The Epidemic]

it only works on the frail minded....

[goodm0urning]

I recommend that you read this: http://skepdic.com/hypnosis.html

This is possibly the best article on the practical side of hypnosis versus the mythical side of hypnosis that I've ever seen. It's certainly more informative than just saying, "It only works if you want it to."

[ShinAkumax]

I can't wait to read that wall of text with those bland black and white pictures. I just CAN'T!

[specs]

It doesnt work.<- period

what you do is
MAN UP
stop fucking smoking and keep talking aloud and loosen up stuttering stems from nervousness, stop worry so much about what people think

Wins the thread at post 2. :tup:

Hypnosis is fake. Something that con artists use to make money.

[ShinAkumax]

Yes, bad ass internet attitude > Thoughts, ideas and facts. You fucking moron.

[specs]

Yes, bad ass internet attitude > Thoughts, ideas and facts. You fucking moron.

Love you too.

But it is a scam. The desire to quit an addiction has to be present and acted upon by the person who wants to quit, not someone who wants to take said person's money with false therapy.

Perhaps saying "MAN UP" and leaving it at that is a bit much, though. However, if I was trying to quit smoking and fix up my speech, I'd be contacting a doctor on both counts and going from there. The doctor will actually be able to help me. The hypnotist won't.

[woof]

let me show you

[ShinAkumax]

Love you too.

But it is a scam. The desire to quit an addiction has to be present and acted upon by the person who wants to quit, not someone who wants to take said person's money with false therapy.

Perhaps saying "MAN UP" and leaving it at that is a bit much, though. However, if I was trying to quit smoking and fix up my speech, I'd be contacting a doctor on both counts and going from there. The doctor will actually be able to help me. The hypnotist won't.

:wonder:

The question was never if it was a scam or not. It was about it working.

It does work, but as many have said, not because it's a factual phenomenon. It's just really powerful self delusion. But it does work for some people.

About quitting, as a smoker, let me tell you. There is more than meets the eye. The problem with cigarettes is that it is both a physical and physiological addiction. Real smokers use cigarettes to mark events.

Get up? Have a smoke. Breakfast? Have a smoke after. Getting ready for work? Have another one. Driving to work? Yup, another one. Then when you get to work you have one with your friends, so on and so on. It's a very social thing to do also.

Doctor won't help nearly as much as you think. Personally, man, if it stops you from smoking. Give it a try, I don't care how you try to improve your person for as long as you keep trying.

WINNERS DON'T USE DRUGS
William S Sessions, Director, FBI

[specs]

:wonder:

The question was never if it was a scam or not. It was about it working.

It does work, but as many have said, not because it's a factual phenomenon. It's just really powerful self delusion. But it does work for some people.

About quitting, as a smoker, let me tell you. There is more than meets the eye. The problem with cigarettes is that it is both a physical and physiological addiction. Real smokers use cigarettes to mark events.

Get up? Have a smoke. Breakfast? Have a smoke after. Getting ready for work? Have another one. Driving to work? Yup, another one. Then when you get to work you have one with your friends, so on and so on. It's a very social thing to do also.

Doctor won't help nearly as much as you think. Personally, man, if it stops you from smoking. Give it a try, I don't care how you try to improve your person for as long as you keep trying.

WINNERS DON'T USE DRUGS
William S Sessions, Director, FBI

I'll take your word on the subject of quitting smoking being harder than I think, because I never smoked. But hypnotism is still shady to me.

But, like you said, as long as you keep trying. That's the important part.

[RockBogart]

Hypnosis will only makes a person do what they would do normally. You wont do anything COMPLETELY out of character. Like it cant make you kill someone that you wouldn't kill anyway.

[Gasp]

its all power of suggestion, he'll have as much luck having hypnosis working for him as him picking up the good book, its just dependent on the will of the person
juggy pretty much said it all
i know smoking isnt easy at all,...at ALL but seriously you need to just man up sometimes and handle your shit instead of looking for crutches

[mags]

IMO if hypnosis works it is because you sub consciously want it to work, like it gives you a reason to think you're cured and therefore, mentally, you are able to do whatever - not because it has some higher level shit that actually alters your mind.

EDIT: oops, yeah, what juggy said. Basically it's YOU changing yourself mentally not the hypnotist casting some brain altering spell on you.

[nameingway]

protip: you won't be able to use this to obtain jessica alba.

(or am i thinking of another member of srk?)

[HeaT]

stuttering can be cured with programs...there are professionals that train your brain through exercises to correct itself so you stop stuttering...

im outi

Roberth

[CoolBlue]

What happened to your planned comic book series? The one with the hero named Cisco?

And what happened to your plan to become a doctor?

[Kalypso]

There seems to be some minor scientific evidence supporting hypnosis for such things as quitting smoking or whatnot, but the bottom line is it works because people want it to work, just like AA. Alcoholics Anonymous doesn't actually do ANYTHING to help people quit drinking, the people that do quit do it because of their own will and volition, those who lack it go back to drinking (Very well-made point by Penn and Teller on Bullshit). Similar theory applies to hypnosis, you can't really affect subconscious in the methods I've looked into, but if people have a strong enough will in them to start the hypnosis can be a medium to channel their willpower to stop. Essentially, you think it works, but you're the one that made it work all along.

See the scientific studies involving Placebo drug treatments, people recover a lot better (Physically AND Mentally) when they think they are being treated and they want the treatment to work.

That being said, the Mythbusters expirament I saw on Hypnosis was rather flawed, and to me proved nothing. It was one of the few times the show really just tripped from 'Not entirely scientific but entertaining' into 'blatantly Flawed.'

[Kuenai]

As a psych major, I've done tons of research on the topic. It works to an extent, but as said earlier, it will not make you do anything you wouldn't normally do. If anything, it is essentially directed meditation. Quite an interesting topic, if not shallow and easily debunked. If you lack the willpower for self meditation, hypnosis is a great way to go.

[Orochi Jeebus]

if you're up for it, consider trying acupuncture. it's extremely effective, a friend of mine was able to quit smoking very easily that way.

[ShinAkumax]

Not THAT would be an interesting topic. I know nothing about acupuncture.

[hubcapsignstop]

but the bottom line is it works because people want it to work...
why wuold you go to a hypnotist to help you stop smoking and not want it to work?

Essentially, you think it works, but you're the one that made it work all along.
if you couldnt do it without, then hypnosis must have been a tool that helped you quit

See the scientific studies involving Placebo drug treatments, people recover a lot better (Physically AND Mentally) when they think they are being treated and they want the treatment to work.
what did you bring this into the discussion?
are comparing or contrasting placebos with hypnotism?
are you saying the placebo effect isnt real?



alot of you sound brainwashed by the American Medical Association
most doctors are deluded
and they certainly arent scientists having zero concept of the scientific method whatsoever
dont take what they say for granted

i seen hypnotism take a meek little high school boy that never talking to noone and kept his head down all day, into a faux method man on stage in front of the whole school bugging. shit is crazy.